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- Hey everybody, I'm Connor.

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That's Doug and this is the Bethel

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School District Presents podcast.

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And we have another fantastic show

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for you this week in just a few minutes,

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Doug will be heading over
to one of our middle schools

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to speak with some students
about their honors program.

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But first, something's been
driving me crazy, Doug.

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- Oh yeah, do tell. Oh,

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- It's really a provocative question.

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I just can't get it outta my
head. I've been dwelling on it.

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I haven't done any work
for weeks. <laugh>.

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You may have noticed. I don't
know. I'm sorry about that.

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The question is, if you
could wake up tomorrow

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with $5 million in your
bank account, love it.

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But you'd have to be 10 years older.

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Would you do it?

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- Interest? $5 million.

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But I am so the world has

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gone forward 10 years.
That's what you're saying,

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- Doug.

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Pay attention. No, you have aged 10 years.

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The world is exactly as
you left it when you went

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to bed at 7:30 PM

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- <laugh>.

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Some nights I make it to
7 45. Thank you very much.

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Can I bargain with you? Can
I parlay some numbers here?

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Like instead of maybe 5 million,

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could I do 2.5 in five years?

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- I'll give you 2.5 for five.

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- 2.5 for five. Could I
do 1 million for one year?

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- No. Okay. Two years for 500,000.

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- Oh, that's a terrible deal.

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Okay, so you said I could do 2.5 for five

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- Tax free, I'll tell you
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Oh, tax free. I do like that. Okay.

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How are you feeling about
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- No. No. Would not make that trade.

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I unlike you, I value my life.

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- <laugh>.
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a decision yet. So I can't say that

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I haven't, but I guess I, I
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- Wouldn't trade a day
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for all the money in the world.

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10 years is ridiculous.

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- I, I'm more interested
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but I think I'd want to be a
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than a middle aged man.

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- The, just to be fair,
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for an American man is not 98 years.

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So you are technically not middle aged.

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You're past middle aged.

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- Oh my gosh. So can we
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because now I'm depressed <laugh>,

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I'm sitting here at
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with principal Hans
Nelson and students Jazzy

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and Violet, both eighth graders

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and both in the honors program.

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Welcome to the show everybody.

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Thank you Jazzy and
Violet, you both are here

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because Principal Nelson's extremely proud

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of the honors program here
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and extremely proud of both of you.

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You both competed in History Day recently

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and are doing amazing things in class.

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Can one of you tell me
about the honors program?

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What is it for people
that don't know? Violet?

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- I'd say that honors
is a program for people

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who want to challenge
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Maybe if they're taking regular
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sixth or seventh grade and
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for them and they wanna
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more, they can sign up for honors.

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- That's a great description. Jazzy.

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I was actually in an honors
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I've heard that that has changed in the,

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let's say 10 years since
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It's been a little more than
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<laugh>, what is the change

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that's happened here at Cedar Crest?

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if I was like able to be
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where like, I want things to
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- I love it. That's a big step here at

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Cedar Crest, principal Nelson.

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students and get them back to class.

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she made it really like easy for us

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to like really get the resources

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that we needed and the help we need.

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around the place, even though like

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everything was really
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for us to like comprehend and
like our fixes and our changes

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and like she was like a
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- That's excellent. So Miss Woolery and

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because of National History Day,

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which you all just participated in,

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before we talk more about that, violet,

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who's your favorite teacher in class?

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Woolery honors history,
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because she makes the
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Let's talk about National History Day.

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For those that don't know what that is

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for is a middle school
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I don't know why I am telling it.

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You all are experts. <laugh>.

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Let me have one of you tell our listeners

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what is National History Day?

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you basically research
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or what feels like forever and you

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create a project.

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state or nationals,
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- I think that's amazing.

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kind of like science fairs.

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My title was The Secret War,
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Laos was flooding with communists
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where the communists were coming from.

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what was your topic and
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the Japanese thought it
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bomb Pearl Harbor, which
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of putting the Japanese
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actually like in Puyallup
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for like the Japanese
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through like discrimination and all that.

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because they're being
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where there was like guns
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and like they had a curfew,
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- Wow. Yeah. Really dark time

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and a history that not a lot

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of people know about here in the area.

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of the cool pieces about this is

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that kids get to choose their own topic.

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of you just touch on
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and why that was important
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tell people more about my culture

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and research more about
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- I wanted to find a
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and I, when I was researching,
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about the Japanese and Char camp

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that happened right at the pl fairgrounds.

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like this spring fair
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that there were prisoners
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It's definitely not advertised.

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I think there is a historical
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mistaken, but you have to
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That is a definitely a dark time. Wow.

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A great opportunity for
you, for you both to present

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and to take part in that.

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So you're in honors now, you're
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to, I presume, spany Lake
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The thing I think is cool
about this shift in honors

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where you can choose
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that's the same way that they
do AP classes in high school.

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You don't have to pass any tests
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Anybody can try an AP class.

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Has this shift in honors
given you more confidence

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to try out AP classes when
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- Yeah,
- Most definitely.

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I think that since honors
here is challenging me a bit

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more, I could take that into high school

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and challenge myself even more

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than I'm challenging myself now.

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- That's excellent. And those
AP classes then prep you

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for college classes if you're
gonna go the college route.

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And let's talk about that.
I love when I'm talking

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to students, no matter if
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or seniors, I'd like to
know what their dreams are

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for post-graduation.

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Have you thought about a career
that you'd wanna step into

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or a college that you're
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to? We'll start with you jazzy.

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- Well, yeah, actually ever
since like I was in second

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of my aunties that, um, she
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and I was really into history.

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So I always wanted to be
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because like I'm really into
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things about like past and everything.

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And like teaching has always
been like one of my dreams

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and I really like helping people

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and like helping kids
to understand that like

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history's really important just

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so like in the future we don't repeat it.

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- Absolutely. And wow, that's so amazing.

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I love hearing stories about
people that find a passion

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and then work towards doing
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I they say if you do what you love,

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you never work a day in your
life, which is very cool.

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How about you Violet?
What are your dreams post

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high school graduation?

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- I haven't really
thought about it too deep,

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but since like elementary
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I've thought of going down
like nursing or doctor.

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But then I did a project in
sixth grade where we kind

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of like researched about like

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what we would wanna be when we grew up

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and like what college
we would wanna go to.

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And I kinda looked into
physical therapy for sports

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and I really liked that.

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So that's what I think I
would do after high school.

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- That's fantastic. And
Spinna Lake has great programs

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and the Pierce County Skill
Center also has sports medicine,

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pre-physical therapy programs you can do

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when you're a junior or senior.

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So a lot of amazing opportunities

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before you even graduate
to test the waters there

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and see if that's something
you want to to do.

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Love that class. Really
great meeting both of you.

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Thank you for joining us
on the show here today

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and best of luck as you head off

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to high school in the fall. Thank you.

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- Thank you.
- Well,

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principal Hans Nelson's the
only one left in the room here.

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We've sent the students back
to class, they were amazing.

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- Were they not
- Just incredible scholars.

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And for you, let's talk a
little bit about honors.

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I know it's a passion for
you. Talk about this change.

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Cedar Crest is a little bit ahead

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of the curve here on
moving away from testing.

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- Yes. So I'm coming from
Spanaway Lake High School

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where I was an assistant principal

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and while I was at Spanaway Lake, um, one

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of the pieces we really focused
on was opening up enrollment

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for our AP classes

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and making sure that our AP classes

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looked like our hallways.

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We want, you know, the same kids

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that are in our hallways
in our AP classes, which,

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which sounds simple, but um,

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really is a little bit more complex.

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And so as I came to Cedar
Crest, I started thinking about

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how we can support the AP classes

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that are going on up at the high school.

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And one of the things that
I noticed right away is

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that in order to get into
an honors class, you had

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to be identified as gifted or talented.

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And so we, every year we
would get our list of kids

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that were gifted and talented

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and they would get placed into an honors

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and you would end up with
maybe 10 to 15 seats left in

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that class that you needed to go fill

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just to have a full class.

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And so we would pull 10 to 15 kids,

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but for me that wasn't enough.

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And so last year I told my team,

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we're gonna add a class
at every grade level.

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We're gonna add an honors
class at every grade level,

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so we're gonna run two honors
classes in sixth grade,

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seventh grade, and eighth grade.

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And we are not gonna have enough gifted

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and talented kids to
fill those two classes.

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So teachers tell me who needs
to be in an honors class,

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go find me kids that you can fill.

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I need 66 kids

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that you can put at every
grade level in an honors class.

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And and our teachers were great.

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They said, yep, you need this kid,

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you need this kid, you need this kid.

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And I had a couple teachers push back

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and say, well, what types of
things are you looking for?

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Are you just looking for test scores?

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And I said, no, I I don't
care if you tell me the kids

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smiles at you every day.

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And you think that's the criteria

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for being in an honors class <laugh>.

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You know, I I I want kids that you see

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thriving in an honors space.

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And so what that resulted
in is we had a wide variety

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of students that were placed
into these honors classes.

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Some were scoring test scores at the three

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and four, which is
meeting proficiency and,

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and others really not.

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Um, you know, we had some students

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that were scoring levels one

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and two, which is well below proficiency.

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And, and what we've seen
from those kids is, as a part

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of the honors process, they've been able

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to develop some skills

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and, um, are now earning test
scores that are in that three

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and four range, um, which is
really exciting for us to see.

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- Absolutely. And so we're
talking about those state test

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scores, seeing scores from
one and two, move up to three

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and four just by being in these programs

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and being challenged

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or being open to being
challenged a little bit.

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- Yeah. And and it's, it's tricky.

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You know, we talk about
challenge in schools

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and sometimes people think, well,

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that just means more homework
or that means more reading.

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And, and, and it's way
more complex than that.

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As we think about designing
these honors classes,

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I'm lucky I have an amazing
group of teachers, group

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of educators that have designed
these classes to focus on

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teaming and student collaboration.

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So kids are not just developing
the proficiency skills

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that they need to meeting the standards

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for the state requirements,

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but they're developing this set of skills

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that's gonna really benefit
them in the workforce.

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Being able to team with people,
collaborate with people,

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lead projects, and do some
project management type pieces

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like you hear about with History Day.

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- Right. Yeah. Super cool.

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I think we talked about it
before, that honors program,

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then setting them up to try
AP courses, AP setting them up

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to try college courses,

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really a great pathway
for students to follow.

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- Yeah, I think at the middle
level, I, I truly believe one

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of the best things we can
do to prepare kids for, uh,

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either a career or or college

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after high school is to
develop this sense of scholarly

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identity at the middle school age.

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And if we can develop that
at the middle school age,

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those kids are much more likely
to go up into high school

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and pursue these advanced courses.

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And what we know about being college

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and career ready is
there's a huge correlation

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between having a rigorous
high school transcript

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and finding success

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after high school, whether
that success is in college

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or in a job somewhere.

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- Absolutely. And that's
getting more and more important

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with colleges, not looking at
SATs, not even requiring SATs.

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That rigor in high school
is more and more important.

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I love that. So you're in
your second year here at Cedar

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Crest Middle School as principal,

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you've walked these
hallways many, many times.

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What's one thing that you
see here that you smile

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to yourself and just
say, only at Cedar Crest

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- <laugh>?

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Um, the thing I love
about Cedar Crest and,

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and specifically our Cedar Crest kids,

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is they can size you up
in three to five seconds.

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They can read you so well,
even if they've known you

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for a while, they can tell you
if you're having a good day

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in three to five seconds,

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and they will tell you, Hey,

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looks like you're having a rough day.

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Anything I can do for you? And,

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and those are the kids we have.

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They're amazing human beings
that are gonna grow to be

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fantastic adults one day.

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And, um, that's, that's what
truly makes it a privilege is,

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is we're, we're this community
that, that sees each other

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for good and bad

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and um, works to take
care of each other on a,

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on a daily basis within these halls.

403
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- Absolutely. That's a
great social skill to have

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to really size people up.

405
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<laugh>. Now I'm really nervous

406
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'cause the students that
were in here earlier, um, we,

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I'm just curious what
they think of me now,

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but that's my insecurity talking.

409
00:17:48,055 --> 00:17:49,085
Let's not dive into that.

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- Nope. They'd have told you
if something was off <laugh>,

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they they wouldn't have talked, honestly.

412
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- Oh, well, very good then. Yeah.

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Well then that's the best
compliment I can get.

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Hans, I'm legally obligated
to ask you this next question.

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We were told by one of your colleagues

416
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who actually put your name
forward to be on the show.

417
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Um, I'm not gonna name any names,

418
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but her name's Julie
Schultz, Bartlett <laugh>.

419
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She's an amazing principal at Challenger

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High School and Middle School.

421
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And we had her on the
show earlier this year.

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She told us that you play in a band

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and we're not talking
about just a garage band.

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You all are actually playing
the Spanish Steps Ballroom in

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Tacoma on May 1st.

426
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It's a fantastic venue.
I've seen some bands there.

427
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Talk to us first about the
role music played in your life

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and then we'll talk about the band.

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- Yeah. Um, I started
playing music as a part

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of my own public school program

431
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and public school experience.

432
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Um, I was about nine years old

433
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and, um, started playing cello

434
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and, you know, picked up
some trombone here and there.

435
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Taught myself guitar.

436
00:18:45,945 --> 00:18:48,005
At one point my high
school teacher said, Hey,

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we need a bass player for jazz band.

438
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And I said, well sir, I
don't, I don't play bass.

439
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He goes, you're perfect <laugh>.

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And so, uh, so I started playing jazz bass

441
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and um, you know, fell in
love with playing jazz bass.

442
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Um, fell in love with playing cello.

443
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And for me playing music

444
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through school was really this escape.

445
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It, it gave me opportunities to go places

446
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and do things that I was not able to do

447
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as part of my school experience.

448
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So in high school I was, you
know, leading our church choir.

449
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I was playing in the
Tacoma Youth Symphony.

450
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I sang in the Seattle
Opera, you know, the end

451
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of high school came around

452
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and people were going,
well, what, what do you want

453
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to go do with your life?

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And I'm like, well, I'm gonna be a

455
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chiropractor <laugh> naturally,

456
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- Obviously.

457
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- And my parents said, well,

458
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you're probably not gonna
play music every day.

459
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Are you okay with that? And

460
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I said, well, that's not gonna work.

461
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So we, I guess I need to
go be a music teacher.

462
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And, you know, education had
always been in our family

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and has set out to be a music teacher.

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And, and it just found my niche.

465
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And so, um, got to continue
playing music through college.

466
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I played in our jazz band through college,

467
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both guitar and bass.

468
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Um, toured in China.

469
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We got to do a performance
on the Great Wall.

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- Oh my gosh.
- Which was just kind

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of out of this world. Cool.

472
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- Very cool. So from
China, then you came back

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and did you teach music in the States?

474
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- I started teaching
orchestra over at, I was,

475
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I was in five buildings my first year.

476
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I taught at Graham Kassin High School

477
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and Frontier Middle
School, Nelson Elementary,

478
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Kassin Elementary and
Frederickson Elementary.

479
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My first year. Wow. Five buildings.

480
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My first year, the next
year we had too many kids

481
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and so I had to move to four buildings

482
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'cause we added an orchestra
class at the middle school.

483
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And the year after that I
moved to three buildings

484
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because we added an extra class at

485
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the high school and the middle school.

486
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Oh my gosh. Um, you know,

487
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when I left we were
looking at three classes,

488
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three orchestra classes
at the high school.

489
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And having a high school orchestra program

490
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with three classes is not common.

491
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That's a, a rarity in, in
the state. Interesting.

492
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Um, and really across the country

493
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to have an orchestra program
that, that, that full.

494
00:20:52,295 --> 00:20:54,565
Right. So that was exciting.

495
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And that was about the time

496
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that I started shifting my thinking over

497
00:20:58,485 --> 00:21:02,205
to administration thinking,
well, I can impact, you know,

498
00:21:02,225 --> 00:21:05,765
250 or so kids a year,
um, building a culture

499
00:21:05,865 --> 00:21:07,765
and building a community
around this program.

500
00:21:08,625 --> 00:21:11,605
Or I can go make this impact on a

501
00:21:11,725 --> 00:21:12,845
building and, you know, right.

502
00:21:12,845 --> 00:21:15,365
What, what would a building
look like if we could have this

503
00:21:15,365 --> 00:21:17,325
type of culture, this type of community

504
00:21:17,425 --> 00:21:18,525
for an entire school,

505
00:21:18,745 --> 00:21:21,005
and what, what could that
do for a community that's,

506
00:21:21,005 --> 00:21:23,365
- It's done amazing things
here at Cedar Crest,

507
00:21:23,365 --> 00:21:24,925
judging from the students we chatted with

508
00:21:24,925 --> 00:21:26,485
and the stories we hear
coming out of here.

509
00:21:27,145 --> 00:21:29,005
Congratulations. Amazing career

510
00:21:29,425 --> 00:21:31,405
and really great chatting with you today.

511
00:21:31,825 --> 00:21:34,485
You do have a recording
of your band that, uh,

512
00:21:34,575 --> 00:21:36,485
we're gonna play for
everybody here at the end.

513
00:21:36,705 --> 00:21:37,845
Uh, what's the name of your band

514
00:21:37,945 --> 00:21:40,165
and any upcoming gigs besides Spanish?

515
00:21:40,505 --> 00:21:43,165
Uh, besides the Spanish Ballroom,
people can look forward to

516
00:21:43,385 --> 00:21:45,045
- The, the recording
I'm gonna give you guys.

517
00:21:45,075 --> 00:21:48,925
This is from, uh, uh, the
Top Tankers where a group

518
00:21:48,925 --> 00:21:51,605
of friends that we were
watching Seahawks games together

519
00:21:51,665 --> 00:21:53,125
and said, Hey, let's go, you know,

520
00:21:53,125 --> 00:21:54,685
let's play some music
after one of the games.

521
00:21:54,745 --> 00:21:56,045
And we had put a song together

522
00:21:56,185 --> 00:21:58,325
and we're like, yeah, we,
we should record this.

523
00:21:58,545 --> 00:22:00,885
And so we're sitting in
one of my friends' houses

524
00:22:01,105 --> 00:22:03,125
and say, trying to decide, well, where,

525
00:22:03,125 --> 00:22:04,525
where are we gonna
record this in the house?

526
00:22:04,585 --> 00:22:05,685
And someone just goes, well,

527
00:22:06,155 --> 00:22:08,125
best acoustics in the
house are in the bathroom.

528
00:22:08,605 --> 00:22:10,845
<laugh>, you have all, all
this tile on the walls.

529
00:22:10,845 --> 00:22:12,965
Right, right. So the sound
just resonates everywhere.

530
00:22:12,995 --> 00:22:14,965
It's you have, that's why
people sing in the showers

531
00:22:15,085 --> 00:22:16,365
'cause you get to hear yourself so well.

532
00:22:17,065 --> 00:22:20,445
And, um, so we recorded this
song in the bathroom and,

533
00:22:20,465 --> 00:22:22,365
and started recording a series of,

534
00:22:22,825 --> 00:22:26,245
of videos from the bathroom <laugh> of,

535
00:22:26,265 --> 00:22:27,485
of us doing these songs.

536
00:22:27,545 --> 00:22:30,885
And so it's the, it was just
this joke, this comical kind

537
00:22:30,885 --> 00:22:33,805
of thing that turned into,
you know, people saying, Hey,

538
00:22:33,955 --> 00:22:35,205
when do you have a show coming up?

539
00:22:35,205 --> 00:22:36,205
We want to hear this live.

540
00:22:36,265 --> 00:22:39,325
And interesting, really
interesting configuration on that.

541
00:22:39,585 --> 00:22:41,125
I'm playing cello Okay.

542
00:22:41,175 --> 00:22:42,765
Which is what I studied in college,

543
00:22:43,305 --> 00:22:45,005
but I'm not playing classical cello.

544
00:22:45,105 --> 00:22:48,805
I'm doing the jazz bass lines
that I had learned on bass,

545
00:22:48,945 --> 00:22:50,565
but I'm putting them on a cello,

546
00:22:50,565 --> 00:22:52,005
which makes a really interesting sound.

547
00:22:52,145 --> 00:22:55,285
Wow. Um, and so we've got
cello and acoustic guitar

548
00:22:55,285 --> 00:22:57,205
and three vocalists, which

549
00:22:57,835 --> 00:22:59,245
does not sound like it should work.

550
00:22:59,385 --> 00:23:00,565
And it absolutely does.

551
00:23:01,065 --> 00:23:03,805
So this is a recording of
walking on Broken Glass.

552
00:23:03,975 --> 00:23:04,645
- Let's take a listen.

553
00:23:30,745 --> 00:23:32,925
- The group that we're playing
the Spanish Ballroom with

554
00:23:33,585 --> 00:23:36,725
is a college band that I've
played with, um, cover band.

555
00:23:36,745 --> 00:23:37,845
We do covers of songs.

556
00:23:38,065 --> 00:23:40,965
Um, our band name is
under the Covers <laugh>.

557
00:23:41,025 --> 00:23:42,965
Not sure how public we want that to be.

558
00:23:43,835 --> 00:23:45,725
- Well, it's public now.
- It's public now.

559
00:23:45,865 --> 00:23:49,005
But, uh, that group I've
played with since college.

560
00:23:49,225 --> 00:23:52,405
Um, our, our height of
moments, we got to open

561
00:23:52,425 --> 00:23:55,445
for Macklemore right before,
um, thrift shop dropped.

562
00:23:55,665 --> 00:23:56,845
- Oh
- My God. So right

563
00:23:56,845 --> 00:24:00,565
before he had his, had his,
his career take off, we got

564
00:24:00,565 --> 00:24:04,205
to open for him as a part
of Lollapalooza at PLU plu.

565
00:24:04,465 --> 00:24:05,565
- Oh my goodness.
- Um,

566
00:24:05,945 --> 00:24:08,685
and then now, you know,
we did a bunch of weddings

567
00:24:08,705 --> 00:24:10,325
and just fun dance music.

568
00:24:10,465 --> 00:24:12,165
So it's, it's, it's a good time.

569
00:24:12,215 --> 00:24:13,605
We're nothing special <laugh>,

570
00:24:13,605 --> 00:24:14,685
but, um, we're nothing special,

571
00:24:14,705 --> 00:24:15,885
but we have a good time. We open for

572
00:24:16,005 --> 00:24:17,125
- Macklemore, but we're nothing special.

573
00:24:17,175 --> 00:24:19,805
- We're nothing special, but
we have a good time doing it.

574
00:24:20,405 --> 00:24:21,525
- I love it. That's fantastic.

575
00:24:21,655 --> 00:24:23,725
Thank you for sharing
your music with us today.

576
00:24:23,725 --> 00:24:25,965
Thanks for bringing some
students in that we can chat with

577
00:24:25,965 --> 00:24:27,645
and for telling us more
about what's going on

578
00:24:27,645 --> 00:24:28,725
here at Cedar Crest.

579
00:24:28,815 --> 00:24:30,325
We're gonna close out our conversation

580
00:24:30,325 --> 00:24:31,765
with our question of the day.

581
00:24:32,345 --> 00:24:34,045
If you could wake up tomorrow

582
00:24:34,515 --> 00:24:36,485
with $5 million in your bank account,

583
00:24:37,025 --> 00:24:39,045
but you'd be 10 years older, just you,

584
00:24:39,475 --> 00:24:42,005
everybody else stays the same age, would

585
00:24:42,005 --> 00:24:43,005
- You do it?

586
00:24:43,245 --> 00:24:45,085
Absolutely not. You know, it's funny,

587
00:24:45,095 --> 00:24:47,005
these lessons you pick up from music.

588
00:24:47,625 --> 00:24:49,725
One of my conductors, one of my conductors

589
00:24:49,725 --> 00:24:51,045
of my youth symphony, uh,

590
00:24:51,315 --> 00:24:55,045
just taught us Time is the
most valuable resource you can

591
00:24:55,045 --> 00:24:57,925
ever have and that
someone can ever give you.

592
00:24:58,265 --> 00:25:01,845
And so you need to be intentional about

593
00:25:01,905 --> 00:25:03,285
how you use people's time

594
00:25:03,515 --> 00:25:05,765
because it's something
they're never gonna get back.

595
00:25:06,605 --> 00:25:09,165
- I love that. That's, you
always hear time is money.

596
00:25:09,545 --> 00:25:11,685
It actually should be, time is
greater than money, I think.

597
00:25:12,125 --> 00:25:13,685
- Absolutely.
- Hans Nelson, principal

598
00:25:13,705 --> 00:25:17,005
of Cedar Crest Middle School,
thanks for joining us today.

599
00:25:17,025 --> 00:25:17,965
- Thanks for having me.

600
00:25:37,475 --> 00:25:39,525
- Love that interview. Love
hearing from our students.

601
00:25:39,665 --> 00:25:42,005
And what a cover of Annie Lennox,

602
00:25:42,225 --> 00:25:44,685
who knew Hans had it in him.

603
00:25:44,745 --> 00:25:46,565
- You've gotta see the
YouTube video of it too.

604
00:25:46,635 --> 00:25:48,165
He's sitting dead center playing

605
00:25:48,255 --> 00:25:49,605
cello like a madman. It's awesome.

606
00:25:49,755 --> 00:25:51,685
- Well, and if you would like to see Hans

607
00:25:51,685 --> 00:25:53,645
and his band under the covers,

608
00:25:53,795 --> 00:25:56,885
they'll be playing live at the
Spanish ballroom on May 1st.

609
00:25:57,225 --> 00:25:58,725
- And while you're marking your calendars,

610
00:25:58,725 --> 00:26:00,645
we have another upcoming
event we want everybody

611
00:26:00,665 --> 00:26:04,725
to know about in the Bethel
community on May 3rd at Spanaway

612
00:26:04,725 --> 00:26:08,205
Lake High School is gonna be
our annual family fun night.

613
00:26:08,205 --> 00:26:10,565
Come join our multilingual
education department

614
00:26:10,825 --> 00:26:12,765
for a night celebrating bethel's cultural

615
00:26:12,765 --> 00:26:15,565
and linguistic diversity
with entertainment, food,

616
00:26:15,665 --> 00:26:16,685
and information.

617
00:26:17,105 --> 00:26:19,725
And they would love to see
everybody show up in cultural

618
00:26:19,735 --> 00:26:21,085
dress and attire.

619
00:26:21,145 --> 00:26:22,285
So bring your family down

620
00:26:22,285 --> 00:26:24,805
to Spanaway Lake High School on May 3rd.

621
00:26:25,115 --> 00:26:27,925
That event will be from five 30 to 7:30 PM

622
00:26:28,305 --> 00:26:29,645
- And that'll do it for us this week.

623
00:26:29,665 --> 00:26:31,685
We will see you next time.

