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- Hey everybody, I'm Doug.

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That's Connor. And you're listening

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to the Bethel School
District Presents podcast.

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And we have a fantastic
show for you today.

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Members of our district's
behavior task force will be

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joining us in just a few
minutes here in the studio

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to talk about the work that
they're doing behind the scenes

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that is impacting classrooms
across the district.

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But Connor, before we get
there, you know, we have

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to ask each other some silly question.

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And this one comes in from one

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of our loyal listeners,
and it goes like this.

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If you could have an
unlimited supply of something

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for the rest of your natural born life,

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what would it be and why? Of course.

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- Oh, that's easy. Cash
money, bread dough, bacon,

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cheddar, cash, baby.

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- That is the correct answer.

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But we're not gonna let it be that easy.

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And I'm not gonna let you
pick credit card points

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or casino vouchers or something like that.

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We're gonna drift away from money

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and pick something different.

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'cause I feel like picking cash
is like saying you want more

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wishes when you get one wish.

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- That's true. That's a
good point, Doug. Well done.

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I don't know Then
<laugh>, I have no answer.

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That's, that's really where I'm at.

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So I'm gonna kick it back to you.

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Unlimited supply of what? Young Douglas,

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- Well, I've thought about
this for quite some time.

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I buy gum to keep in my car
just so I don't have coffee,

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breath when I arrive at
meetings and things like that.

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And I really hate buying it

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because it just seems like such a waste.

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My breath is fresh for like 10 seconds

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before I revert to the steaming pile

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of halitosis that I normally am.

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But I do arrive at meetings
minty, fresh and ready to go.

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So I, I do keep buying it. I
would love to not buy that gum.

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That's what I would want
an unlimited supply of.

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- So gum, you're telling me
out of everything in the world,

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you're choosing gum.

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Doug, I will get you an
unlimited supply of gum.

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It'll cost me like $50.
<laugh>. Be creative, Doug.

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But you already made your
choice. Live with it.

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And I have made my choice

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and I am picking unlimited talk talk

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- <laugh> Connor, that
is a fantastic answer.

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And if you were like Albert Einstein,

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I would want you to have unlimited time.

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I know what you do with
it in that instance,

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but you are you, what are
you using this time for?

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What? Are you gonna watch
the office for the fifth time

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- <laugh>?

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Yeah, pretty much. Why
not? Come on, let me live.

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- Well that actually
does sound pretty great.

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While I'm chewing my
unlimited supply of gum,

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I'll be a little jealous
of your answer of time.

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And speaking of time, let's
not waste any more of it.

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Let's go around the table

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and introduce the members
of the behavior task force

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that have joined us here today.

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If you could each take a
moment, introduce yourself,

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where you're from, and
let's have you answer

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today's question too.

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If you could have an unlimited supply

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of anything, what would it be?

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- Jennifer Bonner from
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and I would say chocolate just

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'cause everything's better with chocolate.

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- Uh, Tracy Overstreet.

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I am at Cedar Crest Middle School

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and the vice president of BEA.

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And I would say tacos

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'cause you could have all kinds of tacos.

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- I'm Melissa Munson Merritt.

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I'm the principal over at
Camas Prairie Elementary.

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And if I could have one
thing in unlimited supply,

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it would be the giant cookies
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- Shirley Anderson, Thompson Elementary.

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I went in a whole different direction

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and I said photocopies, <laugh>.

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I would like to be able
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as much as I would like.

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- All right. I'm Brittany Corpus,

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I'm the principal at Cougar
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and I would say positive energy. Okay.

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- These, these are all great <laugh>,

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these are all great answers.

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Uh, well let, let's dive right in.

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So Brittany, how'd the
behavior task force start

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and how has the task force
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- Sure. So, um, behavior can
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of the things that make our jobs a

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little more challenging every day.

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And, um, Chad

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and Kelly, sometimes we call
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to work directly with like
the union and the teachers

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and get us all on the same page,

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all having conversations together.

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Uh, and it really started
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and then research and law

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and all of our different perspectives of

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what we're experiencing,
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and honestly learning for the first year,

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it felt like we were
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- Uh, the behavior task force
initially had recommendations

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that ended up as part of the BEA contract.

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What was it like to see the work

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you've done get implemented like that?

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- I really felt that it
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what we were saying as teachers.

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Um, when we started the
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before Covid, it was nice
that we came together

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with the district with
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and then when they put it in
the contract, it was, yes,

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they have heard us and

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they're actually willing to work with us.

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- So I'm on, on the
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during bargaining to get
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We spent hours, I would
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and what we need in there,
what we shouldn't put in there,

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but it was really good conversations

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to move this work forward.

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- So Jennifer, can you give
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of types of behaviors
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that this committee helps
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- For me, I would say it's our
minors when we start talking

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about minors and majors.

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issues that we can deal
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and then the strategies to
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so we can be addressing those
issues in those minors instead

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of having to always be pushing
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and or having to become a major instead

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of being able to to minor.

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or just the positive
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that would be something
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- Um, it also helped with
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<affirmative> where one teacher
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were walking down the
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or in the bathroom chit-chatting.

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and say, okay, we're gonna set

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expectations for the whole school.

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- So a little consistency. Yes.

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School to school, everyone kind of knows

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what they're looking at and
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So late last year, a group, you went

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to the Hannigan conference
with an eye on the content

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and implications for Bethel itself.

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What do you take away
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and how will it help Bethel

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teachers? We'll start with you Jennifer.

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- I feel that going to that conference,

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it served a couple different purposes.

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One, it, um, solidified

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and validated the work that
we're doing, let us know

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that we're on the right
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and bounds above other districts.

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It also reemphasized the need
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- So the Hannigan solution Tree is coming

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to Bethel this summer to
present their consistently

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recognized for their work and behavior

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and support and systems.

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What do you think that's gonna
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- Gosh, we had the opportunity
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as a behavior team and we learned so much.

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and not only about ourselves,

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but also the systems
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that we could really translate

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and go, Hmm, I wonder if that's
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around or if that's something we need

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to take another look at as a team

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once we come back to school.

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So I know that when we
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we had this idea,

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like Brittany was saying
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and really going, shoot,
we need to, we need

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to modify our intervention
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if we set up a strong tier one system,

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it's good for all kids.

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And so having the hannigan's
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for our professional
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to support all kids, which
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to all educators

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and they are really smart
educators who have a lot

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of really great resources
that can support us in a way

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that makes sense for our district

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and in a way that doesn't
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but allows us to, to take
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through lines throughout the district,

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but also set up some very
strong systems to support all

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of our schools, all of our
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- Tracy, what'd you get
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- For me it was the
importance of having systems

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They were very heavy
on how to collect data,

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putting your tier one,
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and making 'em concrete

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so then you could address
the twos and the threes.

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- It really sounds like it's important

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to have a solid structure that
everybody's familiar with,

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so no one has to reinvent the wheel.

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how the task force works
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- The work that we're doing
is collaborative. Yeah.

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We have teachers at all grade bands.

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and then we also have
district administrators.

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that when it doesn't feel top down,

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it feels like it's a decision

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and, um, laying out the
work that we do, it's easier

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to come back to our colleagues

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and say, no, this is,
this is coming from us.

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This isn't coming top
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And then I feel like people
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and then that kind of
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and then gets the work moving forward.

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- And, and I think that this
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that because sometimes as
teachers we see our perspective,

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but we don't see admin's perspective

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and we don't see district's perspective.

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And this team has allowed
us to interact all together

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and see each other's perspectives.

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And they're not that
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I mean, you know, it
might be a little bit off,

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but for the most part we
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and we all want the same thing.

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You know, in the end, we
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And I think that that's
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of this team is, is

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that we are all working
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and now we're able to see
that on a human level.

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- I remember the meeting
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that we had the answer as administrators

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and our teacher cohort

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that was joining us thought
they had the answers for

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how we were gonna fix behavior.

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And by the end of that meeting

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or the next, I'm not sure which one,

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we all realized we didn't
have the answers, no answers.

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And so we just really had to engage in

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a learning process together.

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- It was super powerful to
hear each perspective though.

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And really truly not just in the passion

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or the moment of when it
feels like a big situation

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and you know, we gotta
make a call in the moment.

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It's like really talking
through all the layers

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of all the different types of kids,

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what's happening, what's going on?

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What are the different
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and what's working, what's not working?

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And that, that also kind
of led us to the next step.

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The next layer was, okay,
so what are, what's,

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what is research telling
us about what, what works?

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What's going well in some schools where,

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where where's like different places

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that we can like collaborate

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and calibrate on putting
some systems in place?

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And so that, that kind

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of got us talking about the next phase of,

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of this work and then Covid hit. So.

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- And how did Covid affect the task force?

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And do you feel like it set you back a lot

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or was it something you were

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able to get right back on top of?

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- I think we had to
obviously take a pause.

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We all did, um, and tend to the health

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and safety pieces in
our buildings to ensure

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that we kept kids safe

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and kept them learning
as best as we could.

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But I think once we started
to come together again,

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it was like we missed no time at all.

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We just picked right up where
we left off and started.

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All those relationships were already built

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between the task force members

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and so we, it was good
to see people again.

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It was like we were old pals

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and we were able to really just start

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to dig into the work again.

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And yeah, our perspective
was a little different.

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Behaviors changed after Covid
and some were intensified.

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Some of our strategies
needed to be modified.

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And so yeah, we just started
to dig into the learning again

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and figure out how we can best
meet our kids' needs as well

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as educator's needs.

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Right? It's about kids and staff.

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We need to keep them both
growing and learning and,

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and in schools where the culture
is positive and successful.

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- Well, and one advantage for
our district to kind of have

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that baseline Yeah.

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Of having a task force. It

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- Was like, thank goodness
that we already have

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- This because I'm sure
not every district had that

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and they all came back

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and they all were dealing
with those behaviors,

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but some of them were probably
starting at scratch right

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there where at least we
had this understanding.

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Um, so do you feel like there
was a big benefit coming back

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from COVID and kind of
already having a leg up there?

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- Yeah, 100% because we, we knew

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that the social emotional
health of our, our kids,

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everything was amplified,
but we also knew that

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that was already at the root.

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And then for it to just
be amplified after Covid

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and coming back and us already knowing

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and trusting each other as a team

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to make good decisions together,
looking at like the menu

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of resources and having
the team decide kind

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of some next steps that need to happen.

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It was really powerful but had,
had, we have to start fresh,

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it would, it, we'd come
from a less trusting place

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of here's what we really need to do.

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And I would say that the whole
team is really having a great

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voice in what needs, what's
the next step, what needs

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to happen and then like how
do we get all of our schools,

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we have a very big district

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and how do we get everybody
on the same level at tier one

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and what does that look like support wise?

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And just having those constant
conversations together has

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been really valuable.

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I feel like I have a, I'm, I'm
working with a team of people

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that I trust and respect and
truly enjoy spending time with.

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And I think what we year
five now? Yes. Something like

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- That.

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That's amazing to have
that continuity. Yeah.

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Uhhuh <affirmative> for that long. Yeah.

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- And I wanna point out, Brittany
said that tiered approach

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or you know, the tiered stra
tiered strategies, I think that

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that was something we didn't

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necessarily forecast at the time.

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We got the, this work started
with the behavior task force

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or the behavior health team.

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And as we started to, as a
district could start to go kind

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of on the journey of learning
what multi-tiered systems

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of support actually look like in a school

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and in a district was really nice

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because we were able to layer
in the learning about MTSS

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with some of our work around behavior.

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And so it just kind of flowed hand in hand

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and it became a very natural process

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to have these conversations

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and really start to talk
about our tiered approach

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for supporting students
in an equitable manner.

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- That's gonna wrap up our show this week.

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Thank you to all the members
of the behavior task force

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that joined us today.

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And circling back to our
question from the top,

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if you could have an
unlimited supply of something

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for the rest of your life, Connor,

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I want quality podcast
guests like we had today.

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- Absolutely Douglas. And on that note,

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join us next week when we
have a very special guest.

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Dwayne the Rock Johnson will be in studio.

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- Uh, actually, actually, uh,

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we did hear back from his publicist.

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They basically told us
the cease and desist

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and stop emailing them. Ah,

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- Shocks.

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I figured that might happen.

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Well tune in next week to
see which guests we do have.

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- We'll see you next week everybody.

