1 00:00:06,545 --> 00:00:07,845 - Hey everybody, I'm Doug. 2 00:00:07,985 --> 00:00:11,125 That's Connor. And this is the Bethel School District 3 00:00:11,125 --> 00:00:12,445 Presents podcast, Connor. 4 00:00:12,445 --> 00:00:15,845 This weekend I was binging the Fast and Furious franchise. 5 00:00:15,845 --> 00:00:19,125 And I'll tell you what, see an old Jason Statham up there on 6 00:00:19,125 --> 00:00:21,645 screen just made me wonder if they ever made a movie 7 00:00:21,705 --> 00:00:24,725 of my life who would play me. 8 00:00:25,025 --> 00:00:26,965 - So I assume you think 9 00:00:26,965 --> 00:00:29,205 that Jason Statham would be a good choice. 10 00:00:29,425 --> 00:00:32,085 I'm, I'm thinking, does Jason Statham have like a 11 00:00:32,175 --> 00:00:33,285 nerdy butler? 12 00:00:34,085 --> 00:00:35,445 I don't know, but that is a great question. 13 00:00:35,575 --> 00:00:37,525 Let's, let's ponder that for a hot minute, 14 00:00:37,585 --> 00:00:39,405 but we do have a great cha for you this week. 15 00:00:39,405 --> 00:00:41,565 Joining us is Executive Director 16 00:00:41,565 --> 00:00:43,285 of Operations, Paul Marquardt. 17 00:00:43,285 --> 00:00:45,205 We're gonna sit down and talk about district growth, 18 00:00:45,225 --> 00:00:47,405 our facilities task force, and a whole lot more. 19 00:00:47,745 --> 00:00:50,285 - Indeed. Paul, your job covers a lot 20 00:00:50,285 --> 00:00:51,445 of ground across the district. 21 00:00:51,445 --> 00:00:53,365 You oversee our transportation team grounds 22 00:00:53,365 --> 00:00:55,365 and maintenance risk management and more. 23 00:00:55,385 --> 00:00:56,405 The list goes on. 24 00:00:56,915 --> 00:00:59,325 What we're here to talk about today is your work heading up 25 00:00:59,325 --> 00:01:01,325 the facilities advisory committee. 26 00:01:01,635 --> 00:01:04,045 This team is made up of parents, community members, 27 00:01:04,445 --> 00:01:05,605 business owners, school 28 00:01:05,605 --> 00:01:07,605 and district staff, as well as school board members. 29 00:01:07,785 --> 00:01:10,125 I'm even part of this team. Connor is not, and he 30 00:01:10,125 --> 00:01:11,845 and I actually don't talk outside of this show. 31 00:01:11,935 --> 00:01:13,165 We're really hauling notes that way. 32 00:01:13,275 --> 00:01:15,285 Tell Connor what this group is up to 33 00:01:15,345 --> 00:01:16,445 and what is their charge. 34 00:01:16,875 --> 00:01:19,285 - Well, Connor, since you're not part of this team, 35 00:01:19,825 --> 00:01:21,925 we have a lot of things 36 00:01:21,925 --> 00:01:24,005 that are gonna be impacting us over the next 10 37 00:01:24,005 --> 00:01:25,605 or 20 years that's gonna cause us 38 00:01:25,605 --> 00:01:27,285 to make some very important decisions. 39 00:01:27,865 --> 00:01:29,685 Uh, it's important to make sure we understand the 40 00:01:29,685 --> 00:01:30,805 needs of our community. 41 00:01:31,105 --> 00:01:33,725 As our families know, we continue to experience growth 42 00:01:34,065 --> 00:01:35,885 as homes continue to be built in our area. 43 00:01:36,145 --> 00:01:38,845 Pierce County Zoning is continuing 44 00:01:38,845 --> 00:01:40,765 to bring additional single family homes 45 00:01:40,865 --> 00:01:42,405 and increasing, uh, 46 00:01:42,405 --> 00:01:45,365 multi-family units in our, uh, school district. 47 00:01:45,905 --> 00:01:48,165 Uh, we need community input as we determine how we plan 48 00:01:48,165 --> 00:01:49,805 for facilities, uh, 49 00:01:49,805 --> 00:01:53,205 and how we best accommodate the increase, uh, that this, uh, 50 00:01:53,205 --> 00:01:55,525 growth is gonna bring in our student population. 51 00:01:56,025 --> 00:01:58,725 Uh, it's also important for us to have a strategic plan so 52 00:01:58,725 --> 00:02:00,805 that our facilities don't fall into disrepair 53 00:02:01,265 --> 00:02:02,485 and best support the needs 54 00:02:02,485 --> 00:02:04,525 of the educational program our students deserve. 55 00:02:04,745 --> 00:02:06,885 In short, the goal of the committee is 56 00:02:06,885 --> 00:02:08,685 to look at district needs around growth, 57 00:02:08,825 --> 00:02:10,685 safety, security and athletics. 58 00:02:11,245 --> 00:02:13,805 Ultimately, after looking at the needs of the community, 59 00:02:14,415 --> 00:02:16,725 we'll be asked to make recommendations to the school board 60 00:02:16,725 --> 00:02:17,725 for how to meet those needs. 61 00:02:17,825 --> 00:02:18,885 - And at that January meeting, 62 00:02:18,885 --> 00:02:21,165 you had students from the superintendent school advisory 63 00:02:21,165 --> 00:02:23,525 committee come in and share their thoughts about safety, 64 00:02:24,005 --> 00:02:25,245 security, and the conditions 65 00:02:25,245 --> 00:02:26,565 of their schools and athletic fields. 66 00:02:26,865 --> 00:02:28,205 So what were the specific issues 67 00:02:28,205 --> 00:02:29,485 that those students brought up? 68 00:02:29,665 --> 00:02:32,085 - Uh, lemme tell you, having students participate in the 69 00:02:32,085 --> 00:02:34,405 community in the committee this last Tuesday was 70 00:02:34,785 --> 00:02:37,805 by far my favorite, yet the sole purpose 71 00:02:37,905 --> 00:02:39,085 of a school system is 72 00:02:39,085 --> 00:02:41,565 to make sure all kids graduate from our schools 73 00:02:41,595 --> 00:02:43,925 with everything they need to be college and career ready. 74 00:02:44,545 --> 00:02:46,245 Our facilities play a large role in that 75 00:02:46,825 --> 00:02:49,205 if students don't have an environment in which they feel 76 00:02:49,205 --> 00:02:50,005 comfortable and safe, 77 00:02:50,475 --> 00:02:51,925 they're gonna have difficulty learning. 78 00:02:52,145 --> 00:02:54,125 Uh, we had a student representative from each 79 00:02:54,125 --> 00:02:56,445 of our high schools and we asked them about their 80 00:02:56,445 --> 00:02:58,925 experiences and how the facility has impacted safety, 81 00:02:59,185 --> 00:03:01,045 the learning environment, athletics, 82 00:03:01,045 --> 00:03:02,605 extracurricular activities. 83 00:03:03,305 --> 00:03:07,765 The kids were very respectful, super insightful, uh, mature. 84 00:03:08,065 --> 00:03:10,205 The best part is they didn't hold back. 85 00:03:10,805 --> 00:03:11,965 I think what resonated the most 86 00:03:11,965 --> 00:03:15,605 with our group was the impact crowding in the schools has on 87 00:03:15,605 --> 00:03:16,925 them socially and emotionally, 88 00:03:17,185 --> 00:03:19,645 as they described navigating crowded hallways 89 00:03:19,645 --> 00:03:20,845 and large class sizes. 90 00:03:20,845 --> 00:03:24,045 It was pretty apparent that students are much better set up 91 00:03:24,045 --> 00:03:25,445 for success in smaller schools. 92 00:03:25,905 --> 00:03:28,125 One of our incredible students from Challenger High School 93 00:03:28,665 --> 00:03:30,205 was really able to highlight 94 00:03:30,205 --> 00:03:33,325 how a smaller school like Challenger helped students feel 95 00:03:33,325 --> 00:03:36,645 safer, more connected and supported in their learning. 96 00:03:37,325 --> 00:03:39,325 I was pretty impressed with these young adults 97 00:03:39,585 --> 00:03:41,805 and I was so impressed that I have asked them to come back 98 00:03:41,825 --> 00:03:43,445 and be a permanent part of our community. 99 00:03:43,505 --> 00:03:45,005 - That's awesome. I actually did not know that. 100 00:03:45,005 --> 00:03:46,165 Really excited to have them there. 101 00:03:46,165 --> 00:03:48,565 Their honesty was really refreshing. 102 00:03:48,795 --> 00:03:51,125 They did provide an important perspective about 103 00:03:51,125 --> 00:03:52,325 how we should approach building 104 00:03:52,385 --> 00:03:55,285 and remodeling our future schools by telling us 105 00:03:55,315 --> 00:03:56,405 what they're going through today. 106 00:03:56,595 --> 00:03:57,645 Paul, as more houses 107 00:03:57,785 --> 00:04:00,085 and high density apartments are being built in our area, 108 00:04:00,275 --> 00:04:03,165 more families and future students will soon be moving here. 109 00:04:03,425 --> 00:04:05,765 And the need for new or expanded schools is 110 00:04:05,765 --> 00:04:06,925 just gonna continue to grow. 111 00:04:07,265 --> 00:04:08,805 And that brings us to data. 112 00:04:09,475 --> 00:04:11,125 It's one thing to say that Bethel is growing. 113 00:04:11,265 --> 00:04:13,085 We say it all the time because it's true, 114 00:04:13,585 --> 00:04:16,045 but you proved it like a lawyer in a courtroom 115 00:04:16,045 --> 00:04:19,365 beyond a shadow of a doubt with some really hard numbers. 116 00:04:19,825 --> 00:04:21,445 So one, where'd that data come from? 117 00:04:21,785 --> 00:04:24,685 And two, how does Bethel stack up against other school 118 00:04:24,885 --> 00:04:27,405 districts in Pierce Kings, Snohomish and Kitsap Counties? 119 00:04:27,675 --> 00:04:29,925 - Well, first you, you mentioned King Pierce, 120 00:04:30,125 --> 00:04:31,205 Snohomish and Kitsap Counties. 121 00:04:32,165 --> 00:04:35,045 Interestingly, Pierce is the only one of those counties 122 00:04:35,225 --> 00:04:36,325 that's actually growing. 123 00:04:36,865 --> 00:04:39,765 Uh, the other three counties are actually declining in, uh, 124 00:04:39,765 --> 00:04:42,005 student growth or student population. 125 00:04:42,145 --> 00:04:43,245 And even in Pierce County, 126 00:04:43,315 --> 00:04:45,285 only three school districts are continuing to grow. 127 00:04:45,535 --> 00:04:48,525 Those districts are Sumner, Bonnie Lake, white River, 128 00:04:48,895 --> 00:04:51,645 which is actually right next to Sumner Bonnie Lake, 129 00:04:51,665 --> 00:04:53,365 up on the Enum Cloud Plateau. 130 00:04:53,985 --> 00:04:57,605 And you guessed it, the Mighty Bethel School District. 131 00:04:58,195 --> 00:04:59,925 It's pretty obvious why, right? 132 00:04:59,925 --> 00:05:02,805 Housing prices in areas like Seattle are super high. 133 00:05:03,195 --> 00:05:05,765 They continue to drive hopeful homeowners south into our 134 00:05:05,765 --> 00:05:08,485 community and this trend is expected to continue. 135 00:05:09,305 --> 00:05:12,645 Uh, so last year we uh, employed Les Kendrick 136 00:05:12,905 --> 00:05:14,845 to do a scientific study of our growth 137 00:05:14,985 --> 00:05:16,245 and create a report for us 138 00:05:16,245 --> 00:05:18,365 that shows our projections over the next 20 years. 139 00:05:18,705 --> 00:05:21,165 - So the report you're working with gave us a low, middle 140 00:05:21,265 --> 00:05:22,645 and high for student growth 141 00:05:22,645 --> 00:05:23,885 projections for the next 20 years. 142 00:05:24,225 --> 00:05:26,325 Now some of those numbers are pretty shocking, but 143 00:05:26,325 --> 00:05:27,605 before we get there, 144 00:05:27,855 --> 00:05:29,205 let's talk a little bit more about why 145 00:05:29,205 --> 00:05:30,565 Bethel's growing so rapidly. 146 00:05:31,275 --> 00:05:33,485 - Well, as I said, uh, growth is due 147 00:05:33,485 --> 00:05:35,605 to potential homeowners Sycamore affordable housing. 148 00:05:35,955 --> 00:05:38,685 They're coming from the Seattle Bellevue, king County area 149 00:05:39,225 --> 00:05:40,725 to compound this issue. 150 00:05:40,725 --> 00:05:42,125 Though Pierce County 151 00:05:42,225 --> 00:05:44,165 and its specifically unincorporated, 152 00:05:44,165 --> 00:05:47,245 Pierce County has recently adjusted zoning 153 00:05:47,595 --> 00:05:49,445 that really affects our district. 154 00:05:49,985 --> 00:05:53,085 In many areas of our district, we've had, uh, 155 00:05:53,085 --> 00:05:54,685 what's called urban corridors 156 00:05:54,785 --> 00:05:57,285 and neighborhood corridors, rezone 157 00:05:57,285 --> 00:05:59,645 or classifications come into play. 158 00:05:59,745 --> 00:06:03,565 So in particular, many areas along 1 76 have been rezoned 159 00:06:03,565 --> 00:06:05,365 to a classification called Neighborhood Corridor. 160 00:06:06,025 --> 00:06:08,805 Uh, along Mountain Highway there have been changes in zoning 161 00:06:09,265 --> 00:06:11,285 to a classification called Urban Corridor. 162 00:06:11,755 --> 00:06:14,085 Both of these classifications will allow 163 00:06:14,085 --> 00:06:17,925 for higher density housing, including high density, 164 00:06:18,285 --> 00:06:20,405 multi-family units being developed. 165 00:06:20,545 --> 00:06:24,845 You can already see a number of these completed along 1 76 166 00:06:25,025 --> 00:06:27,325 and you're seeing, uh, even more going in 167 00:06:27,325 --> 00:06:31,445 and under construction along uh, 1 76 and Mountain Highway. 168 00:06:31,715 --> 00:06:34,365 More dwelling units means more people, 169 00:06:34,415 --> 00:06:35,885 which means more families. 170 00:06:36,355 --> 00:06:38,125 That means more students in our schools. 171 00:06:38,315 --> 00:06:40,845 - Yeah, for a long time we saw housing developments going in 172 00:06:40,845 --> 00:06:42,925 and with these zoning changes we're getting more apartment 173 00:06:43,205 --> 00:06:44,205 buildings and things like that. 174 00:06:44,385 --> 00:06:47,605 And it's really just causing our head count to go up. 175 00:06:47,605 --> 00:06:50,485 In December, 2023, Bethel had a student head count 176 00:06:50,485 --> 00:06:53,765 of 20,229 students. 177 00:06:54,265 --> 00:06:57,245 The moderate projection from your study shows us growing 178 00:06:57,265 --> 00:06:59,805 by 445 elementary school kids. 179 00:06:59,825 --> 00:07:03,045 In the next six years, that's almost enough 180 00:07:03,045 --> 00:07:05,325 to fill an entirely new elementary school. 181 00:07:05,665 --> 00:07:06,645 And that's all because of 182 00:07:06,645 --> 00:07:07,725 these corridors we're talking about. 183 00:07:07,905 --> 00:07:10,005 In the next 20 years, we could need as many 184 00:07:10,025 --> 00:07:12,005 as three new elementary schools 185 00:07:12,305 --> 00:07:14,205 to accommodate all the growth coming our way. 186 00:07:14,205 --> 00:07:16,005 And that's just talking about elementary schools. 187 00:07:16,195 --> 00:07:18,325 Paul, you served as the principal at Shining 188 00:07:18,725 --> 00:07:19,805 Mountain Elementary, uh, 189 00:07:20,945 --> 00:07:22,285 - The Shining Mountain Elementary. 190 00:07:22,545 --> 00:07:23,885 Put some respect on the name 191 00:07:24,205 --> 00:07:25,205 - , my apologies. 192 00:07:25,505 --> 00:07:27,525 The Shining Mountain Elementary. 193 00:07:27,665 --> 00:07:30,765 That's a school that has nearly 800 students. 194 00:07:30,785 --> 00:07:31,845 Couple of questions here. 195 00:07:32,155 --> 00:07:33,925 What is it like working in a school that big 196 00:07:34,025 --> 00:07:36,485 and is that the new norm for elementary schools? 197 00:07:36,485 --> 00:07:39,565 Because I would think in a perfect world we'd have less kids 198 00:07:39,565 --> 00:07:41,365 in our elementary schools, right? Even 199 00:07:41,395 --> 00:07:44,085 - More worrisome, Doug, is that in the next 20 years, 200 00:07:44,575 --> 00:07:48,245 we're expected to grow by 1100 elementary students. 201 00:07:48,905 --> 00:07:50,405 That's three elementary schools. 202 00:07:51,115 --> 00:07:53,965 I've been a principal at the smallest school in one district 203 00:07:54,025 --> 00:07:55,525 and the largest school in another. 204 00:07:55,785 --> 00:07:58,485 So I can say I have some pretty good insight into the impact 205 00:07:58,485 --> 00:08:01,085 the size of a school has on a school community. 206 00:08:02,005 --> 00:08:04,725 I can tell you that when I was principal at Camelot 207 00:08:04,725 --> 00:08:07,765 Elementary and Federal Way, we had about 350 kids. 208 00:08:07,905 --> 00:08:09,645 It was the smallest school in the district. 209 00:08:10,155 --> 00:08:12,125 That school received a Blue Ribbon School 210 00:08:12,125 --> 00:08:13,525 distinction Award twice. 211 00:08:14,145 --> 00:08:15,845 Uh, a blue ribbon is probably the highest 212 00:08:15,855 --> 00:08:17,125 honor a school can receive. 213 00:08:17,145 --> 00:08:18,765 It means you're the best of the best. 214 00:08:19,745 --> 00:08:21,205 Now, a large part of the uc, 215 00:08:21,265 --> 00:08:23,125 the success was the dedicated staff 216 00:08:23,145 --> 00:08:24,405 and parents of the community. 217 00:08:24,425 --> 00:08:27,565 But when I attended the National Blue Ribbon Conference 218 00:08:27,955 --> 00:08:29,765 that brought together the school, other schools 219 00:08:29,765 --> 00:08:32,725 around the nation that had received this award, most 220 00:08:32,725 --> 00:08:35,685 of them were small schools in Bethel. 221 00:08:36,195 --> 00:08:38,245 When I was the very proud principal 222 00:08:38,265 --> 00:08:40,485 of the Shining Mountain Elementary, 223 00:08:40,745 --> 00:08:42,685 we had dedicated strong teachers, 224 00:08:43,385 --> 00:08:46,245 but it was pretty hard to build that sense of community 225 00:08:46,305 --> 00:08:49,805 and make impact impactful changes due to that size. 226 00:08:50,345 --> 00:08:53,805 We had 12 portables, six different lunch periods. 227 00:08:54,335 --> 00:08:56,365 Grade levels had their own recesses. 228 00:08:56,985 --> 00:08:59,045 We couldn't even have our school community 229 00:08:59,245 --> 00:09:00,965 together in one assembly. 230 00:09:01,585 --> 00:09:05,045 Uh, we had to have two assemblies for everything 231 00:09:05,245 --> 00:09:07,565 'cause we couldn't fit all the kids in the gym at once. 232 00:09:07,705 --> 00:09:09,445 The hallways were packed, bathrooms were crowded. 233 00:09:10,065 --> 00:09:13,445 One of our biggest complaints was the bathrooms were 234 00:09:13,665 --> 00:09:15,405 so overused that they were never clean. 235 00:09:15,405 --> 00:09:17,565 They always smelled. I mean, it was just busy. 236 00:09:18,185 --> 00:09:20,405 Uh, it made it difficult. I'll be honest. 237 00:09:20,945 --> 00:09:24,125 It was also impossible for me as a principal 238 00:09:24,125 --> 00:09:26,605 to know all the kids, which is very 239 00:09:26,605 --> 00:09:27,885 hard to admit as a principal. 240 00:09:28,325 --> 00:09:30,885 I think the ideal elementary would probably be about 241 00:09:30,995 --> 00:09:32,045 500 kids. 242 00:09:32,395 --> 00:09:34,605 That allows you to come together as a community. 243 00:09:35,065 --> 00:09:37,645 Uh, you have about three classes per grade level. 244 00:09:38,145 --> 00:09:41,245 It really sets you up to be able to build a sense 245 00:09:41,245 --> 00:09:43,485 of community, make change, uh, 246 00:09:43,745 --> 00:09:45,365 impact kids in a positive way, 247 00:09:45,905 --> 00:09:47,885 and they're not having a sense 248 00:09:47,885 --> 00:09:51,045 of overcrowding like our students mentioned in the 249 00:09:51,045 --> 00:09:52,205 facilities committee meeting. 250 00:09:52,525 --> 00:09:53,845 - I really appreciate that insight. 251 00:09:53,985 --> 00:09:56,085 You said 12 portables so easy to imagine. 252 00:09:56,135 --> 00:09:59,285 300 of those 800 kids are out in portables. During the day. 253 00:09:59,465 --> 00:10:02,565 During our last bond campaign in 2018, the media was out. 254 00:10:02,565 --> 00:10:04,485 We were actually doing a story on overcrowding 255 00:10:04,625 --> 00:10:05,805 and we actually walked 256 00:10:05,805 --> 00:10:08,445 with them from the farthest portable into the building 257 00:10:08,465 --> 00:10:09,965 to use the bathroom and back. 258 00:10:10,145 --> 00:10:12,125 And the kids were gone from class for over 10 minutes 259 00:10:12,125 --> 00:10:14,045 because of the walk that they had to do. 260 00:10:14,185 --> 00:10:16,125 So with big schools like that 261 00:10:16,265 --> 00:10:19,245 and more kids coming in, we're just gonna need more schools. 262 00:10:19,245 --> 00:10:20,725 That's a fact. And in Washington State, 263 00:10:20,785 --> 00:10:23,045 to build more schools, you need to pass a bond. 264 00:10:23,265 --> 00:10:26,605 So the facilities advisory committee is taking a hard look 265 00:10:26,785 --> 00:10:29,405 at what we're gonna need, why we're gonna need it, 266 00:10:29,405 --> 00:10:30,565 and they'll make a recommendation 267 00:10:30,565 --> 00:10:32,205 to the school board in the near future. 268 00:10:32,475 --> 00:10:33,845 - Paul, we definitely look forward to hearing 269 00:10:33,845 --> 00:10:36,205 what the facilities committee has to say as they soldier on 270 00:10:36,205 --> 00:10:37,245 and make their recommendations. 271 00:10:37,265 --> 00:10:38,805 And we do want to thank you for coming 272 00:10:38,805 --> 00:10:39,885 and chatting with us today 273 00:10:40,105 --> 00:10:42,325 and to close out the show, we're gonna circle back around 274 00:10:42,345 --> 00:10:45,405 to Doug's earlier delusional thought about 275 00:10:45,465 --> 00:10:46,885 who would play him in a movie. 276 00:10:47,145 --> 00:10:49,685 And I'm gonna ask you if they were gonna make a movie 277 00:10:49,825 --> 00:10:52,965 of Paul Mart's life. Who plays 278 00:10:53,195 --> 00:10:54,195 - Paul? 279 00:10:54,195 --> 00:10:55,245 Oh boy, that's a tough one. 280 00:10:55,905 --> 00:10:57,005 You know, when I was a kid, 281 00:10:57,205 --> 00:10:59,045 I was pretty certain I was gonna be an actor. 282 00:10:59,725 --> 00:11:03,405 I always thought the class clowns in movies were the 283 00:11:03,645 --> 00:11:06,805 funniest dreamed of being on Saturday Night Live, 284 00:11:07,385 --> 00:11:10,205 but I was also the top gun generation 285 00:11:10,345 --> 00:11:12,165 and I wanted to be a pilot. 286 00:11:12,345 --> 00:11:13,805 And that's originally what I thought 287 00:11:13,845 --> 00:11:14,925 I was gonna do with my life. 288 00:11:15,625 --> 00:11:16,725 Uh, with that said, 289 00:11:17,365 --> 00:11:18,965 I think I have two answers to your question. 290 00:11:19,245 --> 00:11:23,005 Connor, who would I want to play me in a movie? 291 00:11:23,905 --> 00:11:25,645 Tom Cruise? Come on . 292 00:11:25,865 --> 00:11:27,925 Who would probably end up playing me? 293 00:11:28,755 --> 00:11:30,405 It'd probably end up being Will Ferrell. 294 00:11:31,065 --> 00:11:33,405 So I guess I'm gonna put it back on you guys. 295 00:11:34,345 --> 00:11:36,645 Who do you think would play you guys in a movie? 296 00:11:37,115 --> 00:11:39,565 - Well, based on physical attributes alone, 297 00:11:39,755 --> 00:11:41,845 obviously it'd be Ryan Gosling 298 00:11:41,885 --> 00:11:43,085 for me, but that'd be pompous. 299 00:11:43,085 --> 00:11:45,165 So let's switch it up. Where Doug, you pick 300 00:11:45,185 --> 00:11:47,605 who would play me, I'll pick who would play you. 301 00:11:47,865 --> 00:11:49,765 And again, based on physical attributes alone, 302 00:11:49,915 --> 00:11:51,685 obviously you'd get Steve Buscemi. 303 00:11:51,685 --> 00:11:53,445 But we're not just physicality here. 304 00:11:53,445 --> 00:11:56,605 We're we're talking heart. We're talking essence, vibe. 305 00:11:56,825 --> 00:11:59,125 You could say, and I'm gonna say for you Doug, 306 00:11:59,445 --> 00:12:02,005 I see the great Stanley Tucci. 307 00:12:02,195 --> 00:12:06,365 - Stanley Tucci has a lot of gravitas. I am honored. 308 00:12:06,365 --> 00:12:07,645 Thank you. That's a great choice. Well, 309 00:12:07,645 --> 00:12:10,085 - You've got no gravitas, but he would make it work . 310 00:12:10,385 --> 00:12:12,405 - He really would. I think for you 311 00:12:12,405 --> 00:12:14,445 and Paul, you're sitting here looking right at Connor. 312 00:12:14,585 --> 00:12:17,045 Put glasses on him. Give him a little bit of hair 313 00:12:17,345 --> 00:12:20,245 and tell me you don't see a today's rain. 314 00:12:20,245 --> 00:12:22,965 Wilson Dwight from the office, 315 00:12:23,745 --> 00:12:24,885 now in charge of his own show. 316 00:12:24,955 --> 00:12:26,805 Rain Wilson. In the pursuit of happiness 317 00:12:26,805 --> 00:12:27,925 or pursuit of meaning, something like that. 318 00:12:27,925 --> 00:12:31,045 He's now traveling the world with a camera crew looking 319 00:12:31,105 --> 00:12:33,165 for happiness, looking for meaning in life. 320 00:12:33,185 --> 00:12:34,565 And I see that for you as well. 321 00:12:34,635 --> 00:12:36,085 - I'll, I'll take it. I have been called 322 00:12:36,085 --> 00:12:37,205 a moon face boy in the past. 323 00:12:37,265 --> 00:12:39,045 So it, it's all coming together full circle. 324 00:12:41,985 --> 00:12:43,685 - Thanks again to Paul for joining us today. 325 00:12:43,685 --> 00:12:46,925 Paul Marquardt, our executive director of operations, 326 00:12:47,065 --> 00:12:48,605 really appreciate having you on the show. 327 00:12:48,745 --> 00:12:50,085 It was a pleasure being here. Thank you. 328 00:12:50,105 --> 00:12:51,245 Thanks for listening everybody.