1 00:00:00,545 --> 00:00:02,965 - The following episode contains discussions of drugs, 2 00:00:03,275 --> 00:00:05,845 drug abuse, and the impact drugs have on families 3 00:00:05,865 --> 00:00:08,565 and society, including mentions of overdoses. 4 00:00:13,595 --> 00:00:15,845 - Welcome everyone. I'm Connor and that's Doug. 5 00:00:15,865 --> 00:00:18,285 And this is gonna be a really special episode 6 00:00:18,305 --> 00:00:20,525 of the Bethel School District Presents podcast. 7 00:00:21,065 --> 00:00:22,285 - It is last year Connor 8 00:00:22,285 --> 00:00:24,245 and I sat down with a Pierce County deputy 9 00:00:24,345 --> 00:00:27,245 and a DEA agent to talk about the dangers of fentanyl, 10 00:00:27,345 --> 00:00:30,565 vaping and other drugs on a special episode called One 11 00:00:30,565 --> 00:00:31,685 Pill Can Kill. 12 00:00:31,945 --> 00:00:34,245 And today we're gonna continue that conversation 13 00:00:34,515 --> 00:00:36,285 with someone whose life was impacted, 14 00:00:36,285 --> 00:00:38,765 basically interrupted by addiction. 15 00:00:38,945 --> 00:00:41,125 - And also joining us today is Kristen Dahl. 16 00:00:41,125 --> 00:00:44,085 Kristen teaches biomedical sciences, sports medicine 17 00:00:44,105 --> 00:00:46,445 and other health classes at Spanaway Lake High School. 18 00:00:46,705 --> 00:00:48,365 And Kristen, our other guest is someone 19 00:00:48,385 --> 00:00:49,685 you've known for a long time. 20 00:00:49,685 --> 00:00:50,685 Would you like to introduce 21 00:00:50,685 --> 00:00:51,685 - Her? 22 00:00:51,685 --> 00:00:53,125 Absolutely. Uh, it is a pleasure for me 23 00:00:53,125 --> 00:00:55,765 to introduce my friend Jody Borelli. 24 00:00:56,195 --> 00:00:57,645 Jody and I went to high school together. 25 00:00:57,745 --> 00:00:58,885 We were pout Vikings. 26 00:00:58,995 --> 00:01:00,845 Jodi was a year older than me, 27 00:01:00,945 --> 00:01:02,725 so she was somebody that I looked up to. 28 00:01:03,305 --> 00:01:06,845 We started having kids, we got married, we were soccer moms, 29 00:01:07,205 --> 00:01:09,005 baseball moms, all of those different things. 30 00:01:09,145 --> 00:01:11,805 And so I kind of knew what was happening in Jodi's life 31 00:01:11,865 --> 00:01:15,325 and then all of a sudden there was kind of this blank 32 00:01:15,905 --> 00:01:16,925 in our relationship. 33 00:01:17,445 --> 00:01:20,365 I kind of attribute it to the fact that I knew most 34 00:01:20,365 --> 00:01:22,245 of her chapters of her life 35 00:01:22,245 --> 00:01:23,845 because they were very similar to mine. 36 00:01:24,065 --> 00:01:26,565 And then all of a sudden there were blank pages. 37 00:01:27,265 --> 00:01:29,285 And so Jodi contacted me 38 00:01:29,585 --> 00:01:31,685 and was like, Kristen, I don't know if you know my story, 39 00:01:32,025 --> 00:01:33,765 but I have been drug impacted 40 00:01:34,505 --> 00:01:36,365 and some things have happened that are not 41 00:01:36,435 --> 00:01:37,565 what you knew about. 42 00:01:37,585 --> 00:01:38,925 And she knew I was a health educator. 43 00:01:39,345 --> 00:01:42,005 And so she really was passionate about coming 44 00:01:42,025 --> 00:01:43,605 and sharing her story with my kids. 45 00:01:43,985 --> 00:01:47,285 And so that's where our chapter begins today, is 46 00:01:47,285 --> 00:01:50,445 that we are filling in those blank pages of those years 47 00:01:50,445 --> 00:01:53,165 that I missed with Jodi and she came 48 00:01:53,165 --> 00:01:55,285 and spoke to my students and it was life changing, 49 00:01:55,555 --> 00:01:56,555 - Wonderfully said. 50 00:01:56,595 --> 00:01:58,285 Jodi, thank you so much for being here. 51 00:01:58,405 --> 00:02:00,245 I had the pleasure to sit in on your presentation 52 00:02:00,245 --> 00:02:02,445 to several classes here at Spanaway Lake High School 53 00:02:02,785 --> 00:02:05,525 and was moved by your story along with the students and 54 00:02:05,525 --> 00:02:07,365 and their reaction to your story afterwards. 55 00:02:07,775 --> 00:02:09,325 Let's bring our audience up to speed. 56 00:02:09,895 --> 00:02:12,765 Would you share with us how you went from being a soccer mom 57 00:02:12,905 --> 00:02:16,565 to ending up on literally Washington's most wanted? 58 00:02:17,345 --> 00:02:18,685 - My story is not unique. 59 00:02:19,205 --> 00:02:22,125 I was part of the over-prescribing by doctors due 60 00:02:22,125 --> 00:02:24,645 to unethical marketing practices by big pharma. 61 00:02:25,445 --> 00:02:26,805 I knew nothing about addiction, 62 00:02:27,065 --> 00:02:29,845 and addiction was the furthest thing from my mind. 63 00:02:30,765 --> 00:02:31,765 I blew out my shoulder 64 00:02:31,825 --> 00:02:34,205 and was prescribed pain medication by my doctor. 65 00:02:35,205 --> 00:02:37,485 I started out with five milligram Vicodin 66 00:02:37,665 --> 00:02:40,325 and progressed up to 30 milligram oxycodone. 67 00:02:41,175 --> 00:02:42,725 Along the way. I had been in 68 00:02:42,725 --> 00:02:45,685 and out of hospitals for stomach issues, misdiagnosed 69 00:02:45,685 --> 00:02:46,685 for Crohn's disease, 70 00:02:46,905 --> 00:02:48,965 and ended up having my gallbladder out 71 00:02:49,675 --> 00:02:52,085 when in fact I was experiencing withdrawal. 72 00:02:52,595 --> 00:02:55,125 This happened because there wasn't a central reporting 73 00:02:55,385 --> 00:02:57,925 agency for controlled substances like there is now. 74 00:02:59,065 --> 00:03:01,405 As my addiction progressed, I was unable 75 00:03:01,425 --> 00:03:04,245 to satisfy my growing hunger for opioids. 76 00:03:05,125 --> 00:03:07,125 I went to treatment for the first time 77 00:03:07,425 --> 00:03:10,085 and learned that you could snort and smoke pills. 78 00:03:10,995 --> 00:03:13,165 This led me to buying pills off the street 79 00:03:13,185 --> 00:03:15,005 and progressed finally to heroin. 80 00:03:16,025 --> 00:03:18,325 At that point, I had left my family 81 00:03:19,065 --> 00:03:20,845 and needed a way to acquire heroin. 82 00:03:22,215 --> 00:03:25,045 Girls on the streets typically have three options. 83 00:03:25,985 --> 00:03:29,445 One, you can become a dealer. But I had no self-control. 84 00:03:29,675 --> 00:03:31,085 That wasn't an option for me. 85 00:03:32,105 --> 00:03:33,925 Two, you could sell yourself 86 00:03:34,425 --> 00:03:36,645 and that was a line I was not willing to cross. 87 00:03:37,745 --> 00:03:40,205 Or three, you could acquire items to sell, 88 00:03:40,295 --> 00:03:41,845 which ultimately is 89 00:03:41,845 --> 00:03:43,845 what landed me on Washington's most wanted. 90 00:03:45,145 --> 00:03:46,885 My biggest fear was becoming dope. 91 00:03:46,915 --> 00:03:49,205 Sick withdrawal is miserable 92 00:03:49,465 --> 00:03:52,325 and an addict will do anything to avoid being dope sick. 93 00:03:53,715 --> 00:03:55,365 Opioids become our heir 94 00:03:55,625 --> 00:03:57,805 and we feel like we will die without them. 95 00:03:58,845 --> 00:04:01,085 I became brazen in my attempts to steal, 96 00:04:01,135 --> 00:04:03,285 which ultimately landed me on the 97 00:04:03,285 --> 00:04:04,765 Washington's most wanted list. 98 00:04:05,405 --> 00:04:07,165 Ulta Thief capture number 8 0 5. 99 00:04:07,665 --> 00:04:09,365 - Wow, Jodi, that is really powerful. 100 00:04:09,465 --> 00:04:10,525 And you told our students 101 00:04:10,525 --> 00:04:12,325 that you were booked into jail 20 times 102 00:04:12,745 --> 00:04:15,605 and spent significant birthdays there, including your 40th, 103 00:04:15,815 --> 00:04:17,605 which you spent on suicide watch. 104 00:04:17,945 --> 00:04:20,045 You also recounted a Christmas story from jail 105 00:04:20,045 --> 00:04:21,165 that was very powerful. 106 00:04:21,295 --> 00:04:22,445 Would you mind sharing that with us? 107 00:04:22,985 --> 00:04:25,365 - Yes. What I didn't share was 108 00:04:25,365 --> 00:04:26,965 how I ended up on suicide watch. 109 00:04:26,965 --> 00:04:29,245 On my 40th birthday, I was told 110 00:04:29,245 --> 00:04:30,845 that I was gonna be in a cell alone 111 00:04:31,025 --> 00:04:32,565 and that was my biggest fear. 112 00:04:33,225 --> 00:04:36,565 So what I did instead was I climbed over the rail 113 00:04:37,025 --> 00:04:38,325 and threatened to jump off. 114 00:04:38,945 --> 00:04:41,845 And what that did was that landed me in a cell alone 115 00:04:42,865 --> 00:04:43,965 on suicide watch. 116 00:04:45,005 --> 00:04:49,565 Christmas Eve 2015, I sat on my top bunk while 50 plus women 117 00:04:50,385 --> 00:04:53,405 sat crisscross applesauce on the floor of PO two. 118 00:04:53,525 --> 00:04:56,045 A while I read them was the night 119 00:04:56,045 --> 00:04:59,605 before Christmas holding onto every word I read. 120 00:05:00,255 --> 00:05:02,285 Every one of them lost in the story. 121 00:05:03,065 --> 00:05:06,125 The words from that book washed over us all in a way 122 00:05:06,315 --> 00:05:08,205 that none of us that were there 123 00:05:08,595 --> 00:05:10,685 that Christmas Eve will ever forget. 124 00:05:13,035 --> 00:05:16,565 Many of the women had never had the story read 125 00:05:16,565 --> 00:05:18,005 to them on Christmas Eve. 126 00:05:18,905 --> 00:05:20,965 The joy that that brought me was incredible 127 00:05:21,745 --> 00:05:23,205 and I cherish that moment forever. 128 00:05:24,225 --> 00:05:26,605 - Before we go any farther, Jodi, I thanked you earlier 129 00:05:26,825 --> 00:05:27,965 for joining us 130 00:05:28,145 --> 00:05:30,205 and I really wanna thank you for sharing your story. 131 00:05:30,265 --> 00:05:31,925 It cannot be easy to relive this 132 00:05:32,905 --> 00:05:34,965 and now we're gonna get to it later. 133 00:05:34,965 --> 00:05:37,405 That's what, that's what you do, is you, is you talk 134 00:05:37,405 --> 00:05:39,605 to groups and share your story so 135 00:05:39,605 --> 00:05:42,005 that hopefully people can learn from it 136 00:05:42,005 --> 00:05:44,165 or at least find hope in it if they have a family member 137 00:05:44,165 --> 00:05:46,965 that's suffering your descent into addiction. 138 00:05:46,965 --> 00:05:49,085 Started with prescription medication, like you said, 139 00:05:49,085 --> 00:05:50,085 for an arm injury. 140 00:05:50,395 --> 00:05:52,845 Kristen, you told me that's a common injury 141 00:05:52,845 --> 00:05:55,245 that you teach students about in your sports medicine class. 142 00:05:55,745 --> 00:05:57,885 Do you also cover the dangers of addiction in class 143 00:05:58,185 --> 00:06:00,885 and how'd you come to invite Jodi to speak to your students? 144 00:06:01,345 --> 00:06:04,005 - One of the things that we sports med teachers in our 145 00:06:04,245 --> 00:06:06,965 district are pretty passionate about is making sure 146 00:06:07,635 --> 00:06:10,085 that we talk about what happens after injury. 147 00:06:10,305 --> 00:06:13,845 In Sports Med, we talk about the biomechanics, the anatomy, 148 00:06:14,385 --> 00:06:16,285 but there are so many things that happen 149 00:06:16,515 --> 00:06:19,125 that are not being spoken about out in the public. 150 00:06:19,645 --> 00:06:22,925 I also teach family health and I also teach nutrition 151 00:06:22,925 --> 00:06:24,485 and fitness and biomed classes. 152 00:06:24,705 --> 00:06:27,245 And so addiction is on the forefront for me. 153 00:06:27,385 --> 00:06:30,565 And knowing that this is from over prescriptions 154 00:06:30,625 --> 00:06:33,045 and over prescribing biomedical professionals, 155 00:06:33,685 --> 00:06:34,765 I wanna talk about it. 156 00:06:35,505 --> 00:06:38,325 Our kids think drugs are okay. They're like, Ms. 157 00:06:38,355 --> 00:06:41,565 Dahl pot is not a big deal, right? I'm hitting the vape. 158 00:06:41,675 --> 00:06:43,725 It's fine. But they don't understand 159 00:06:43,725 --> 00:06:45,405 that they are the great experiment. 160 00:06:46,185 --> 00:06:48,885 We don't know the ramifications of of all of this. 161 00:06:48,945 --> 00:06:53,325 And that is what Jodi lived is she lived in that denial 162 00:06:53,915 --> 00:06:56,165 that you can't get addicted to opioids. 163 00:06:56,635 --> 00:06:59,325 That that that's how they were over to marketing to her, 164 00:06:59,425 --> 00:07:00,565 is they literally were saying, 165 00:07:00,565 --> 00:07:02,165 you can't get addicted to this one. 166 00:07:02,875 --> 00:07:05,445 This one is safe. There is no safe drug. 167 00:07:05,985 --> 00:07:08,045 And so that's one of the things that's passionate for me 168 00:07:09,205 --> 00:07:12,285 teaching here at Spanaway Lake, is teaching my students 169 00:07:12,315 --> 00:07:13,645 that, whether it's from injury 170 00:07:14,105 --> 00:07:17,885 or for joy, supposedly is what they all think they're using 171 00:07:18,025 --> 00:07:21,925 for, we can't let the human brain go down that road. 172 00:07:22,385 --> 00:07:26,885 And so again, Jodi kind of connected with me telling me 173 00:07:26,885 --> 00:07:28,405 that she had been through this, 174 00:07:29,105 --> 00:07:31,005 I'm actually sitting here listening to her story 175 00:07:31,025 --> 00:07:32,725 of December of 2015. 176 00:07:33,465 --> 00:07:35,085 And it's crazy 'cause that was my first year 177 00:07:35,235 --> 00:07:36,245 here at PanAm Lake. 178 00:07:36,745 --> 00:07:38,765 And so I just, I'm listening to 179 00:07:38,765 --> 00:07:40,805 how different our stories were for that year. 180 00:07:41,265 --> 00:07:43,245 And so I'm so thankful that you reached out to me 181 00:07:43,245 --> 00:07:46,765 because I just needed someone to, to be a face 182 00:07:46,765 --> 00:07:48,005 of this for our students. 183 00:07:48,145 --> 00:07:50,685 And unfortunately a lot of them have parents 184 00:07:51,305 --> 00:07:53,085 or loved ones that have gone through addiction 185 00:07:53,545 --> 00:07:56,125 and have yet to come out on the other side. 186 00:07:56,185 --> 00:07:59,725 And so I felt it was very, very important to have Jodi come 187 00:07:59,725 --> 00:08:03,725 and speak with all of my classes and invited other classes. 188 00:08:04,365 --> 00:08:05,925 'cause it's just so necessary right now. 189 00:08:06,685 --> 00:08:08,125 - Absolutely. And you know, 190 00:08:08,125 --> 00:08:10,725 when we see these stories on the news about addiction, a lot 191 00:08:10,725 --> 00:08:13,125 of the time, most of the time in fact, it ends in tragedy 192 00:08:13,345 --> 00:08:16,565 and we rarely hear stories that end in hopeful messages. 193 00:08:16,835 --> 00:08:18,925 Jodi, your story gave hope to students 194 00:08:18,925 --> 00:08:20,565 with family members struggling with addiction. 195 00:08:20,585 --> 00:08:22,605 And after you were done speaking, many 196 00:08:22,605 --> 00:08:24,965 of those students found you and you talk to them. 197 00:08:25,185 --> 00:08:26,325 And some of these were students 198 00:08:26,325 --> 00:08:28,565 with family members also navigating some 199 00:08:28,565 --> 00:08:29,645 of the things that you've gone through. 200 00:08:30,115 --> 00:08:32,525 What message or advice did you give to these kids? 201 00:08:33,155 --> 00:08:34,365 - Well, first off, I wanted 202 00:08:34,365 --> 00:08:35,765 to make sure that they were okay. 203 00:08:36,055 --> 00:08:37,645 There was one girl in particular 204 00:08:37,755 --> 00:08:41,365 that was wiping tears the entire time that I spoke 205 00:08:41,545 --> 00:08:43,565 and she's the first one that when I was done, 206 00:08:43,845 --> 00:08:46,045 I raced off the stage and went and gave her a hug 207 00:08:46,505 --> 00:08:48,085 and just asked her, are you okay? 208 00:08:48,165 --> 00:08:49,725 I hope I didn't trigger you from 209 00:08:49,725 --> 00:08:50,885 something that you've gone through. 210 00:08:52,345 --> 00:08:54,045 And she looked at me and said, no, 211 00:08:54,305 --> 00:08:55,805 you give me hope for my auntie. 212 00:08:57,665 --> 00:08:59,205 And I think that you're right 213 00:08:59,205 --> 00:09:02,365 that we don't hear many stories of hope and inspiration. 214 00:09:02,395 --> 00:09:06,085 Most of them are overdose deaths and, and what's happening 215 00:09:06,185 --> 00:09:08,485 and all the despair and whatnot. 216 00:09:08,625 --> 00:09:10,805 So having some inspiration 217 00:09:11,025 --> 00:09:15,725 and a little bit of hope was, I think such a alternative 218 00:09:15,825 --> 00:09:17,485 to what, what we're used to hearing 219 00:09:18,385 --> 00:09:21,165 and you know, each, uh, one of the students that I spoke 220 00:09:21,165 --> 00:09:24,965 to afterwards, they each shared that I gave them hope 221 00:09:25,065 --> 00:09:26,405 for a different family member. 222 00:09:26,645 --> 00:09:28,365 I heard auntie, I heard mom, 223 00:09:28,565 --> 00:09:30,285 I heard cousin, and I heard brother. 224 00:09:31,145 --> 00:09:35,565 And that to me is exactly why I want to share my story 225 00:09:35,745 --> 00:09:37,085 and especially for kids 226 00:09:37,085 --> 00:09:40,085 because there is a population of children today 227 00:09:40,515 --> 00:09:41,645 that are like my kids. 228 00:09:42,225 --> 00:09:46,645 My kids were without their mom for, well, Joseph 229 00:09:46,745 --> 00:09:48,645 and Angelina were without me through all 230 00:09:48,645 --> 00:09:51,165 of their middle school and all of their high school. 231 00:09:52,005 --> 00:09:53,925 I didn't get to see not one 232 00:09:53,925 --> 00:09:55,725 of my three children graduate high school 233 00:09:55,795 --> 00:09:57,725 because of my, I was on the streets 234 00:09:57,905 --> 00:10:00,205 and you know, going through my addiction. 235 00:10:00,545 --> 00:10:03,045 And I just want them to know that there is hope 236 00:10:03,585 --> 00:10:06,685 and that we can overcome and we do recover. 237 00:10:07,515 --> 00:10:09,525 - Getting to sit in on your presentation 238 00:10:09,905 --> 00:10:11,445 and you brought up, you're a soccer mom 239 00:10:11,705 --> 00:10:14,285 and then you went into your story, it was one 240 00:10:14,285 --> 00:10:16,045 of my first questions, what about your kids? 241 00:10:16,655 --> 00:10:19,325 Again, thank you for being so open so 242 00:10:19,325 --> 00:10:20,965 that other people can learn from your story. 243 00:10:21,765 --> 00:10:23,205 Rebuilding trust has to be one 244 00:10:23,205 --> 00:10:25,445 of the most challenging aspects of recovery. 245 00:10:25,985 --> 00:10:27,165 Can you talk a little bit about that 246 00:10:27,545 --> 00:10:30,205 and maybe offer some of the hope we're talking about 247 00:10:30,205 --> 00:10:32,845 to people with those moms and cousins and aunts? 248 00:10:33,185 --> 00:10:35,285 - What's amazing is that's always the first question 249 00:10:35,285 --> 00:10:37,365 that I get anytime I speak. 250 00:10:37,465 --> 00:10:38,725 And when I speak at Rotary 251 00:10:38,725 --> 00:10:40,045 or if I speak at Chamber of Commerce, 252 00:10:40,305 --> 00:10:42,885 or even with speaking at the kids here at Spanaway Lake, 253 00:10:42,885 --> 00:10:43,965 the first question is always, 254 00:10:43,995 --> 00:10:46,245 what is your relationship like with your kids? 255 00:10:46,995 --> 00:10:48,365 Well, the problem is, is 256 00:10:48,365 --> 00:10:50,525 that rebuilding relationships takes time 257 00:10:50,665 --> 00:10:53,285 and relationships do not go back to where they were. 258 00:10:54,075 --> 00:10:55,845 It's kind of like a wire coat hanger. 259 00:10:56,025 --> 00:10:58,325 If you undo it and manipulate it, 260 00:10:58,425 --> 00:11:00,045 it never goes back to what it was. 261 00:11:00,235 --> 00:11:02,645 It's bent. It doesn't mean it's not good, 262 00:11:02,945 --> 00:11:05,365 it doesn't mean it's not fulfilling, 263 00:11:05,425 --> 00:11:06,525 but it's just different. 264 00:11:06,625 --> 00:11:09,565 And it's not the same that as it would've been or as it was. 265 00:11:10,665 --> 00:11:14,285 My kids are, you know, I have different relationships 266 00:11:14,285 --> 00:11:15,525 with all three of my kids. 267 00:11:16,345 --> 00:11:20,845 My oldest and my youngest, I have kind of transcended 268 00:11:21,025 --> 00:11:22,925 and we have worked through some things 269 00:11:23,385 --> 00:11:25,085 and I get to spend time with them. 270 00:11:25,905 --> 00:11:28,725 My middle child, he is still, 271 00:11:29,305 --> 00:11:31,485 and he has every right to still be angry with me. 272 00:11:32,065 --> 00:11:36,005 And we have not fully mended that we did it first. 273 00:11:36,065 --> 00:11:38,485 And that's the whole thing about addiction and recovery. 274 00:11:38,635 --> 00:11:42,245 Nothing's linear. You can take five steps forward 275 00:11:42,465 --> 00:11:44,565 and you can go sideways, upside down 276 00:11:44,565 --> 00:11:45,845 and take another step back. 277 00:11:46,345 --> 00:11:48,445 And that's okay because we're, it's, we're dealing 278 00:11:48,445 --> 00:11:52,805 with emotions and trauma and, um, expectations 279 00:11:53,625 --> 00:11:55,285 and expectations are hard 280 00:11:55,285 --> 00:11:57,885 because they typically lead to resentments. 281 00:11:58,625 --> 00:12:02,685 And yeah, you know, relationships with my kids, I am, 282 00:12:02,995 --> 00:12:04,885 they all tell me that they love me. 283 00:12:05,155 --> 00:12:08,325 I've, I'm able to talk to all of them on holidays, 284 00:12:08,425 --> 00:12:11,165 but just the, the amount of time that I get 285 00:12:11,325 --> 00:12:14,845 with each one is not, it's never gonna be what I want 286 00:12:14,845 --> 00:12:17,765 because I want them the way I had them when they were young. 287 00:12:17,785 --> 00:12:19,965 And I want them all the time. I want all the minutes. 288 00:12:20,785 --> 00:12:22,565 And, um, I'm fighting for 'em. 289 00:12:22,785 --> 00:12:24,485 And that's why I keep doing what I'm doing. 290 00:12:24,545 --> 00:12:26,645 And I keep seeking and reaching these goals 291 00:12:26,665 --> 00:12:29,685 and trying to share my story so 292 00:12:29,685 --> 00:12:32,405 that there is an understanding within the community. 293 00:12:32,405 --> 00:12:36,765 Because I think one of the hardest things, especially 294 00:12:36,765 --> 00:12:38,445 as a mom is that mom guilt. 295 00:12:39,425 --> 00:12:42,365 And having gone through what I've gone through, it's kind 296 00:12:42,365 --> 00:12:43,965 of one of my superpowers when I'm working 297 00:12:43,965 --> 00:12:46,325 with clients is talking with them 298 00:12:46,325 --> 00:12:49,885 and sharing my experience to where they understand that, 299 00:12:50,345 --> 00:12:51,885 you know what, it's not gonna be perfect. 300 00:12:52,115 --> 00:12:54,125 It's not the way that, okay, we're back. 301 00:12:54,705 --> 00:12:56,045 I'm not using drugs anymore. 302 00:12:56,185 --> 00:12:58,765 Why aren't you just here in my life and at everything? 303 00:12:59,145 --> 00:13:01,365 Or why am I not getting invited to everything? 304 00:13:01,395 --> 00:13:04,645 Because a 10 year, kind 305 00:13:04,645 --> 00:13:06,605 of like a hiking, I'm a mountain climber. 306 00:13:06,625 --> 00:13:10,485 So a 10 mile hike in is a 10 mile hike out. Okay. 307 00:13:10,585 --> 00:13:12,725 But with recovery, this analogy 308 00:13:12,725 --> 00:13:15,965 that I give a 10 year trek in does not mean it's gonna take 309 00:13:15,985 --> 00:13:18,405 10 years to come back out to rectify things. 310 00:13:19,475 --> 00:13:20,965 There's ways to get down the mountain 311 00:13:20,965 --> 00:13:22,445 faster if you're a mountain climber. 312 00:13:22,445 --> 00:13:24,765 You know, gating is the great way to get down. 313 00:13:24,875 --> 00:13:26,525 It's a lot easier on the joints. 314 00:13:26,525 --> 00:13:28,125 It's swift and it's fun , 315 00:13:28,345 --> 00:13:29,925 but it cuts down a lot of the miles. 316 00:13:30,145 --> 00:13:34,565 And so it's a long journey and it's not, it's not linear 317 00:13:34,865 --> 00:13:36,525 and it, there, it's not time bound. 318 00:13:36,745 --> 00:13:40,445 So it's, it's, it's interesting with the way the dynamics 319 00:13:40,445 --> 00:13:43,685 of family works because there's a lot of, a lot 320 00:13:43,685 --> 00:13:45,205 of pain, a lot of hurt. 321 00:13:45,305 --> 00:13:49,325 And then there needs to be a lot of therapy, right? 322 00:13:49,785 --> 00:13:53,005 We need to re like reframe our brain. 323 00:13:53,505 --> 00:13:55,285 We need to gain an understanding. 324 00:13:55,465 --> 00:13:58,405 We need to learn different coping strategies on my side 325 00:13:58,505 --> 00:14:01,445 and on, on my family's side, on 326 00:14:01,505 --> 00:14:04,405 how we recover as a family unit. 327 00:14:04,665 --> 00:14:08,885 And I think that is the hardest thing for me to kind 328 00:14:08,885 --> 00:14:13,205 of overcome is that I am, I'm still working hard at it, 329 00:14:13,385 --> 00:14:16,485 but it's not that picture perfect life that I once had 330 00:14:16,515 --> 00:14:18,085 with my children when they were little. 331 00:14:19,065 --> 00:14:21,925 - So during your presentation you painted a pretty visceral 332 00:14:21,925 --> 00:14:24,805 picture of addiction from being narcaned yourself 333 00:14:24,825 --> 00:14:27,485 to panhandling, but walking down Pacific Highway 334 00:14:27,595 --> 00:14:30,285 with a cart full of stolen items sounded like a 335 00:14:30,285 --> 00:14:31,445 real turning point for you. 336 00:14:31,665 --> 00:14:33,045 Can you describe what it was like 337 00:14:33,045 --> 00:14:35,005 to finally reach out for help in that moment? 338 00:14:35,765 --> 00:14:38,805 - Absolutely. I had a friend that had reached out 339 00:14:38,805 --> 00:14:40,245 to me when I was in jail 340 00:14:40,745 --> 00:14:44,205 and I came out to a message on Facebook saying, 341 00:14:44,205 --> 00:14:46,725 if you ever need anything, give me a call. 342 00:14:47,465 --> 00:14:50,165 And I did. At that time, I was living in a clean 343 00:14:50,165 --> 00:14:54,285 and sober house and I needed rides to check into DOC 344 00:14:54,525 --> 00:14:56,765 'cause I had to check in quite frequently at first. 345 00:14:57,625 --> 00:15:00,965 And it was a distance, and so I would get rides 346 00:15:01,065 --> 00:15:03,165 and then I ended up going back out, 347 00:15:03,415 --> 00:15:04,805 which is what commonly happens. 348 00:15:05,045 --> 00:15:06,205 I mean, it takes on average, 349 00:15:06,225 --> 00:15:08,005 and this is per a Harvard study 350 00:15:08,315 --> 00:15:11,245 that it takes on average five to seven attempts 351 00:15:11,915 --> 00:15:15,965 over a course of eight years to gain one year of sobriety. 352 00:15:16,025 --> 00:15:18,565 And this is before fentanyl, that's heroin. 353 00:15:18,705 --> 00:15:20,085 That's my generation of drugs. 354 00:15:20,185 --> 00:15:22,885 So fentanyl, it is compounded. 355 00:15:23,485 --> 00:15:28,085 I was pushing a shopping cart down Pacific Avenue 356 00:15:28,355 --> 00:15:32,565 because I had stolen a bunch of a bunch of stuff 357 00:15:32,865 --> 00:15:35,165 and the house that I was at, the people 358 00:15:36,555 --> 00:15:38,245 were probably about to rob me. 359 00:15:38,245 --> 00:15:39,725 And I, I had that gift of fear. 360 00:15:39,925 --> 00:15:41,325 I understood what was about to happen. 361 00:15:41,905 --> 00:15:45,805 And so I somehow ended up with a shopping cart 362 00:15:45,805 --> 00:15:49,005 and was pushing all of all these items down down the road. 363 00:15:49,585 --> 00:15:52,125 And it was late at night, it was about 10 o'clock. 364 00:15:52,545 --> 00:15:54,925 And there were two cars that were circling me 365 00:15:55,425 --> 00:15:57,205 and I kept seeing, and the one that stood out 366 00:15:57,205 --> 00:15:59,885 and that I remember the most is there was a black Mercedes 367 00:15:59,985 --> 00:16:02,485 and it had blacked out windows and it would circle 368 00:16:02,585 --> 00:16:05,445 and then park and no windows ever rolled down. 369 00:16:05,505 --> 00:16:07,085 But I was just like, what the heck? 370 00:16:07,815 --> 00:16:10,765 After the second time that that had happened, 371 00:16:11,165 --> 00:16:12,605 I just kind of beelined it. 372 00:16:12,605 --> 00:16:15,885 There was a bar and I beelined it to the bar 373 00:16:16,465 --> 00:16:19,925 and ran in crying and asked if I could use their phone 374 00:16:19,925 --> 00:16:21,565 because I was afraid for my safety. 375 00:16:22,665 --> 00:16:25,245 And this wasn't the first time people were circling me 376 00:16:25,245 --> 00:16:27,085 because being on Washington's most wanted, 377 00:16:27,085 --> 00:16:28,685 there was a thousand dollars reward. 378 00:16:28,825 --> 00:16:31,565 And it kind of, I find it humorous now that people 379 00:16:31,565 --> 00:16:32,925 that were drug addicts 380 00:16:32,925 --> 00:16:35,285 and dealers thought that, oh, I can just turn in 381 00:16:35,285 --> 00:16:36,485 and get the, get the reward. 382 00:16:36,805 --> 00:16:38,245 Probably not. I don't think that's really the way it works. 383 00:16:38,865 --> 00:16:41,205 So I, I reached out to that same individual 384 00:16:41,315 --> 00:16:44,685 that had offered me help and he came 385 00:16:44,685 --> 00:16:46,285 and picked me up, took me 386 00:16:46,285 --> 00:16:50,125 to his house out here actually in Spanaway and let me detox. 387 00:16:51,105 --> 00:16:55,085 And I knew that I needed to turn myself in 388 00:16:55,645 --> 00:16:56,885 Washington's most wanted. 389 00:16:56,935 --> 00:16:59,805 Going to prison was very fearful. 390 00:17:00,065 --> 00:17:01,325 I'd been in and out of jail. 391 00:17:01,525 --> 00:17:05,285 I mentioned that in my, in my speech that over 20 times, 23 392 00:17:05,285 --> 00:17:09,485 to be exact and county was sucked. 393 00:17:09,625 --> 00:17:11,485 But I mean, it was fine. I knew it. 394 00:17:11,545 --> 00:17:13,525 So I wasn't, I wasn't fearful of going, 395 00:17:13,605 --> 00:17:15,525 I was always just scared of like going through withdrawal. 396 00:17:15,865 --> 00:17:18,765 But prison actually terrified me. 397 00:17:19,385 --> 00:17:21,325 And I figured if you're on Washington's most wanted, 398 00:17:21,325 --> 00:17:22,725 you're definitely going to prison. 399 00:17:22,835 --> 00:17:25,645 Like how can you not? So I reached out to him. 400 00:17:26,565 --> 00:17:29,685 I was on, I think it was like day seven of detoxing 401 00:17:29,745 --> 00:17:32,165 and I, I didn't turn myself in. 402 00:17:32,245 --> 00:17:34,245 I woke up to police officers standing over me. 403 00:17:34,245 --> 00:17:37,125 They ended up making the call, which right, thank goodness. 404 00:17:37,265 --> 00:17:39,285 And I, I need to reach out to this individual 405 00:17:39,425 --> 00:17:42,485 and say thank you because it, it's what saved my life 406 00:17:43,305 --> 00:17:45,005 and went to jail. 407 00:17:45,685 --> 00:17:48,765 I went to jail for, I think it was three months on 408 00:17:48,765 --> 00:17:50,165 that in Pierce County. 409 00:17:50,825 --> 00:17:52,165 And then when I got out, 410 00:17:52,745 --> 00:17:55,285 he still was there to offer me help. 411 00:17:55,465 --> 00:17:56,805 He was that olive branch 412 00:17:57,665 --> 00:18:02,405 and I was able to move up to Bellingham with assistance 413 00:18:02,945 --> 00:18:04,965 and that's where my recovery began. 414 00:18:05,485 --> 00:18:08,045 I was able to get plucked out of the environment 415 00:18:08,095 --> 00:18:10,965 where I was sick, where I was using that was triggering 416 00:18:11,745 --> 00:18:13,845 and started a new life. 417 00:18:14,285 --> 00:18:16,925 I was court ordered to attend treatment 418 00:18:17,105 --> 00:18:20,565 and that's where I went to DOC up in Bellingham. 419 00:18:20,565 --> 00:18:22,245 They sent me to Catholic Community Services 420 00:18:22,345 --> 00:18:24,405 and I did intensive outpatient. 421 00:18:25,245 --> 00:18:29,165 I told my counselor at that time that, hey, I do not want 422 00:18:29,165 --> 00:18:30,325 to go through this quickly. 423 00:18:30,925 --> 00:18:34,045 I am very capable of doing the 28 day bubble. 424 00:18:34,665 --> 00:18:36,765 That's fine, but it's the coping skills 425 00:18:36,985 --> 00:18:40,045 and the learning new skills to live life that's not 426 00:18:40,115 --> 00:18:41,645 that addict lifestyle. 427 00:18:42,745 --> 00:18:45,245 And he was like, okay. 428 00:18:45,865 --> 00:18:49,845 So I stayed in IOP for a full year. 429 00:18:50,675 --> 00:18:53,765 That was three hours at a time, three times a week. 430 00:18:54,225 --> 00:18:56,125 And I loved it. It gave me a purpose. 431 00:18:56,445 --> 00:18:58,445 I was able to get up and get ready 432 00:18:58,625 --> 00:19:00,685 and it felt like I was almost going to school again. 433 00:19:01,065 --> 00:19:03,565 You know? And there was excitement there. 434 00:19:03,685 --> 00:19:05,005 I was creating a community 435 00:19:05,355 --> 00:19:08,725 because the antidote to addiction is community, 436 00:19:09,395 --> 00:19:11,445 it's addiction's, an isolating disease 437 00:19:11,985 --> 00:19:13,765 and community is the cure. 438 00:19:14,265 --> 00:19:17,005 And when you connect yourself with the right community 439 00:19:17,385 --> 00:19:20,525 and the right individuals, then you're gonna thrive. 440 00:19:21,505 --> 00:19:24,325 And that counselor, he's actually now the head 441 00:19:24,325 --> 00:19:26,485 of drug court up there and a very close friend, 442 00:19:26,625 --> 00:19:30,525 but he's the one who recommended that I go and be a drug 443 00:19:30,525 --> 00:19:31,525 and alcohol counselor. 444 00:19:31,715 --> 00:19:33,285 He's like, you would be really good at this. 445 00:19:33,405 --> 00:19:36,205 I see how you mentor individuals in group 446 00:19:36,425 --> 00:19:38,765 and how you are just always there to be 447 00:19:38,765 --> 00:19:40,405 of support and to help. 448 00:19:41,105 --> 00:19:44,005 And so that's, I did and I, I applied 449 00:19:44,105 --> 00:19:46,765 and went to Whatcom Community College 450 00:19:47,225 --> 00:19:50,565 and did the substance use disorder professional program, 451 00:19:51,115 --> 00:19:55,165 graduated summa cum laude, won public speaking award. 452 00:19:55,355 --> 00:19:58,005 That was the best decision I ever made was summer quarter, 453 00:19:58,025 --> 00:19:59,805 taking a public speaking course. 454 00:20:00,785 --> 00:20:04,725 And I knew at that point that everything that I did 455 00:20:04,725 --> 00:20:07,445 for research and speaking was gonna be around this topic 456 00:20:07,465 --> 00:20:11,005 of addiction because it needed to be. 457 00:20:11,585 --> 00:20:12,725 And it was my calling. 458 00:20:13,185 --> 00:20:16,845 And I am so grateful for my public speaking professor 459 00:20:16,945 --> 00:20:19,965 as well, who absolutely changed my life. 460 00:20:20,435 --> 00:20:21,205 - Jody, you talked about 461 00:20:21,205 --> 00:20:22,605 community and I'm glad that you did. 462 00:20:22,605 --> 00:20:23,685 You also brought up fentanyl, 463 00:20:23,685 --> 00:20:25,365 and that's two things I want to talk about now. 464 00:20:25,845 --> 00:20:29,325 Fentanyl is so cheap and so easy to find, it's even online. 465 00:20:29,515 --> 00:20:31,885 Kristen, you mentioned to me that students today, 466 00:20:31,915 --> 00:20:33,605 they're constantly searching for a sense 467 00:20:33,605 --> 00:20:35,045 of community online. 468 00:20:35,555 --> 00:20:37,365 What insights do you think educators 469 00:20:37,365 --> 00:20:39,885 and parents need to understand about the digital world 470 00:20:40,035 --> 00:20:41,245 that children are navigating? 471 00:20:41,425 --> 00:20:42,805 - Oh, that is a loaded question. 472 00:20:43,215 --> 00:20:47,085 There are so many branches to what's happening online. 473 00:20:48,125 --> 00:20:49,725 I walk the halls of Spanaway Lake 474 00:20:49,745 --> 00:20:51,405 and I hear what our kids are saying. 475 00:20:51,805 --> 00:20:54,045 I always tease 'em that like, I hear the T 476 00:20:54,045 --> 00:20:57,685 that you are spelling and it scares me. 477 00:20:57,945 --> 00:21:00,245 It scares me. The things that the kids think 478 00:21:00,985 --> 00:21:04,805 is okay in today's society, the addictions that they have 479 00:21:05,545 --> 00:21:07,765 to technology to pornography, 480 00:21:08,025 --> 00:21:11,765 and then leading towards drugs that they think are fine. 481 00:21:12,565 --> 00:21:15,245 I really wish that more people could walk our halls 482 00:21:15,245 --> 00:21:16,525 and hear the conversations 483 00:21:16,745 --> 00:21:20,845 and just understand that a lot of these substances 484 00:21:20,905 --> 00:21:24,285 and technologies have been romanticized to such a level. 485 00:21:25,205 --> 00:21:27,285 I even have kids listen to music side note, 486 00:21:27,965 --> 00:21:30,485 I have kids listen to music to hear all 487 00:21:30,545 --> 00:21:31,725 of the sensationalized 488 00:21:31,745 --> 00:21:34,725 and romanticized parts of drugs and alcohol. 489 00:21:35,345 --> 00:21:38,845 And kids don't even realize how that is massaging. 490 00:21:39,265 --> 00:21:42,885 And you said it, Jodi, it is tender, rising their brains 491 00:21:43,665 --> 00:21:45,285 to think that these things are okay, 492 00:21:45,335 --> 00:21:47,005 which then leads to addiction. 493 00:21:47,385 --> 00:21:49,205 And we just came out of isolation. 494 00:21:49,465 --> 00:21:51,205 And so with the covid closure 495 00:21:51,705 --> 00:21:54,525 and trying to get students back into 496 00:21:55,305 --> 00:21:57,205 actual face-to-face conversations 497 00:21:57,305 --> 00:22:00,485 and out of their digital mediums is something 498 00:22:00,765 --> 00:22:02,725 that I work every day for. 499 00:22:02,985 --> 00:22:04,845 The first thing that I do is that I start 500 00:22:04,845 --> 00:22:06,165 by teaching them about their brain. 501 00:22:06,625 --> 00:22:08,445 And I really would love an opportunity 502 00:22:08,545 --> 00:22:10,205 to teach parents about brain 503 00:22:10,265 --> 00:22:14,165 and how brains are always seeking, whether it's dopamine, 504 00:22:14,165 --> 00:22:17,405 whether it is oxytocin, which is love, which is 505 00:22:17,405 --> 00:22:18,565 what brings community. 506 00:22:19,025 --> 00:22:22,325 So that is the start, is being able to teach kids 507 00:22:22,545 --> 00:22:25,765 and families about how they react 508 00:22:25,765 --> 00:22:26,845 to these different stimuli. 509 00:22:27,085 --> 00:22:29,205 'cause that's what this digital world is. 510 00:22:29,635 --> 00:22:31,085 It's little hits of dopamine. 511 00:22:31,085 --> 00:22:33,365 That little vibration of a text message, ooh, 512 00:22:33,365 --> 00:22:34,405 could be my boo thing. 513 00:22:34,905 --> 00:22:38,765 The little, the little, you know, nudge 514 00:22:38,785 --> 00:22:41,205 of all the likes on social media, right? 515 00:22:41,205 --> 00:22:42,485 That builds that self-esteem. 516 00:22:43,025 --> 00:22:45,445 On the flip side of that is if you have kids 517 00:22:45,465 --> 00:22:49,005 who are feeling isolated, the access, 518 00:22:50,185 --> 00:22:51,605 you just click, are you 21? 519 00:22:52,195 --> 00:22:54,205 There's no, there's no checks 520 00:22:54,205 --> 00:22:56,565 and balances on this in any way, shape or form. 521 00:22:56,665 --> 00:23:00,445 And so as parents, as educators, we have to, 522 00:23:01,625 --> 00:23:02,845 we have to be one step ahead. 523 00:23:03,505 --> 00:23:04,605 And that's hard 524 00:23:04,605 --> 00:23:06,205 because we all think that our, 525 00:23:06,465 --> 00:23:08,205 our child would never do this. 526 00:23:08,985 --> 00:23:11,605 Our, our perfect little angels would not do it. 527 00:23:11,825 --> 00:23:14,005 And our kids are really good at hiding. 528 00:23:14,825 --> 00:23:18,125 So it's just we need more community involvement, 529 00:23:18,235 --> 00:23:19,605 more community education. 530 00:23:20,485 --> 00:23:22,765 I truly believe that we need more education 531 00:23:22,765 --> 00:23:24,165 for the humans that love our students. 532 00:23:24,715 --> 00:23:25,725 It's not always parents. 533 00:23:25,725 --> 00:23:27,805 Sometimes it's grandma, sometimes it's auntie, 534 00:23:28,155 --> 00:23:30,685 sometimes it's a godparent raising them. 535 00:23:30,745 --> 00:23:34,605 And so we as a district need to find ways to be able 536 00:23:34,625 --> 00:23:35,845 to help them. 537 00:23:36,665 --> 00:23:38,605 The flip side of that, I get a lot of pushback 538 00:23:38,605 --> 00:23:40,645 where people are, that's not our responsibility, 539 00:23:41,025 --> 00:23:43,365 that's not our job, but it is 540 00:23:43,365 --> 00:23:46,245 because it takes a community to help a community. 541 00:23:46,305 --> 00:23:48,885 And when we turn our back, then we are just 542 00:23:49,595 --> 00:23:52,765 letting our students walk into these different things. 543 00:23:53,305 --> 00:23:54,965 - One thing that we need is a third, 544 00:23:54,965 --> 00:23:56,925 what we call a third space, right? 545 00:23:56,945 --> 00:23:59,845 We have our family home life, then we have school 546 00:24:00,345 --> 00:24:03,245 or us adults have family and then work. 547 00:24:03,705 --> 00:24:07,165 We all need that third space, that space of community 548 00:24:07,535 --> 00:24:12,325 where people are there just for community support and love. 549 00:24:12,985 --> 00:24:16,845 How do we create that? That great brainstorming idea. 550 00:24:17,085 --> 00:24:18,765 I love it, but we need a third space. 551 00:24:19,395 --> 00:24:21,405 - Jody, your story is so powerful 552 00:24:21,465 --> 00:24:24,165 and now you're moving on to better things in a bigger life, 553 00:24:24,705 --> 00:24:25,965 one built on helping others. 554 00:24:26,425 --> 00:24:28,525 Can you tell us a bit about what you're doing now? Well, 555 00:24:28,705 --> 00:24:31,325 - I'm a fierce advocate for those struggling with addiction. 556 00:24:31,755 --> 00:24:34,845 Currently, I work at a medication assisted treatment center, 557 00:24:35,355 --> 00:24:36,765 also known as a methadone clinic, 558 00:24:36,955 --> 00:24:39,085 helping those struggle with addiction. 559 00:24:39,955 --> 00:24:42,245 Most of my clients are addicted to fentanyl. 560 00:24:42,745 --> 00:24:45,605 I'm a public speaker sharing on the topics of addiction, 561 00:24:45,915 --> 00:24:48,405 harm reduction, fentanyl, Narcan, 562 00:24:48,825 --> 00:24:51,125 and my story of resiliency and hope. 563 00:24:52,105 --> 00:24:55,325 My current goal is simple. I want to start a conversation. 564 00:24:56,205 --> 00:24:58,805 I want to normalize the topic of addiction 565 00:24:59,105 --> 00:25:01,365 and reduce the stigma surrounding it. 566 00:25:02,345 --> 00:25:05,125 Too many of our kids are dying from fentanyl. 567 00:25:06,305 --> 00:25:10,085 My goal is to inspire young people to stay drug free, 568 00:25:11,195 --> 00:25:14,805 take action, and to empower them with the tools necessary 569 00:25:14,805 --> 00:25:18,165 to save someone's life, including their own. 570 00:25:19,525 --> 00:25:22,645 I am also a member of the Pierce County Opioid Task Force, 571 00:25:23,525 --> 00:25:26,125 participating in community events to raise awareness 572 00:25:26,305 --> 00:25:27,325 and distribute Narcan. 573 00:25:28,405 --> 00:25:31,125 I run a small business, Jodi Borelli Coaching, 574 00:25:31,215 --> 00:25:34,805 which can be found@jodiborelli.com, where I work 575 00:25:34,805 --> 00:25:37,645 with those struggling with addiction and teach mindset 576 00:25:37,825 --> 00:25:38,845 and breath work skills. 577 00:25:39,505 --> 00:25:41,405 My overall goal is to inspire 578 00:25:42,105 --> 00:25:45,285 and provide hope to such a hopeless disease. 579 00:25:45,675 --> 00:25:47,525 - Hearing you speak to the students 580 00:25:47,665 --> 00:25:49,725 and now hearing you speak today, I know 581 00:25:49,725 --> 00:25:51,605 that you are working hard towards that goal. 582 00:25:51,605 --> 00:25:53,045 It's been a pleasure speaking with you. 583 00:25:53,355 --> 00:25:54,925 Kristin, thank you so much 584 00:25:54,945 --> 00:25:56,965 for helping us set this up. Any last thoughts from you? 585 00:25:57,245 --> 00:25:59,885 - I am so thankful that Jody and I got to reconnect. 586 00:26:00,185 --> 00:26:03,045 It was actually a total class reunion when she was here, 587 00:26:03,045 --> 00:26:05,645 because there's a couple other pl high school grads, 588 00:26:05,785 --> 00:26:07,765 and some dear friends came 589 00:26:07,765 --> 00:26:09,165 to support her when she was speaking. 590 00:26:09,705 --> 00:26:14,605 And so that is a huge message that my students felt too, is 591 00:26:14,605 --> 00:26:16,685 that even though sometimes people walk through fire, 592 00:26:17,075 --> 00:26:19,285 they can come out the other side 593 00:26:19,425 --> 00:26:21,365 and to be able to have these connections, 594 00:26:22,035 --> 00:26:23,045 it's really powerful. 595 00:26:23,345 --> 00:26:25,045 We, we were friends when we were 15, 596 00:26:25,545 --> 00:26:28,365 and it's so exciting that we get to have this second chance 597 00:26:28,365 --> 00:26:31,645 and that she can make such an impact in my community 598 00:26:32,105 --> 00:26:33,925 of students at Spanaway Lake, as well 599 00:26:33,925 --> 00:26:35,525 as our community in Pierce County. 600 00:26:38,055 --> 00:26:39,765 - Thank you again to Kristen Dahl 601 00:26:39,765 --> 00:26:42,645 and Jody Borelli for joining us today, especially to Jody 602 00:26:42,705 --> 00:26:45,005 for being willing to open up her life, 603 00:26:45,175 --> 00:26:48,045 share her story in the hope of helping others. 604 00:26:48,235 --> 00:26:50,205 There's a lot of good information online 605 00:26:50,205 --> 00:26:52,245 where you can learn more about drug addiction. 606 00:26:52,465 --> 00:26:54,685 One place to start is the DE's website, 607 00:26:55,385 --> 00:26:58,285 dea.gov/one pill. 608 00:26:58,465 --> 00:26:59,765 - Thanks everyone for listening. 609 00:26:59,985 --> 00:27:02,405 Be safe and as always, look out for each other.