1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,059 This is where health insurance leadership comes together. 2 00:00:05,279 --> 00:00:08,960 Becker's fourth annual spring payer issues roundtable brings 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,259 together over 400 payer and health plan executives 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,524 and more than 100 speakers to Chicago April. 5 00:00:16,904 --> 00:00:19,785 This year's event includes keynote conversations with the 6 00:00:19,785 --> 00:00:23,064 industry's top leaders and former president George W. 7 00:00:23,064 --> 00:00:25,704 Bush. For the full agenda and event details, 8 00:00:25,704 --> 00:00:27,785 visit beckershospitalreview.com 9 00:00:27,785 --> 00:00:29,224 and click on the events tab in the 10 00:00:29,224 --> 00:00:31,519 upper right. We're looking forward to hosting you 11 00:00:31,519 --> 00:00:32,659 here in Chicago. 12 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:36,579 Hello, everyone, and welcome to Becker's Healthcare Podcast. 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,799 I'm Scott King. Thrilled today to be joined 14 00:00:38,799 --> 00:00:41,600 by a very special guest, Christy Spencer, vice 15 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,460 president of provider partnerships 16 00:00:43,844 --> 00:00:45,604 with Elevent's Health. Christy, how are you? Thanks 17 00:00:45,604 --> 00:00:46,984 so much for joining the podcast. 18 00:00:47,445 --> 00:00:48,804 Yeah. I'm doing great. It's great to be 19 00:00:48,804 --> 00:00:50,564 here with you today. You know, we have 20 00:00:50,564 --> 00:00:52,564 a lot of big topics, new year, but 21 00:00:52,564 --> 00:00:54,484 some some new topics and some old ones 22 00:00:54,484 --> 00:00:55,304 to get into 23 00:00:55,684 --> 00:00:57,684 in health care and with health plans. But 24 00:00:57,684 --> 00:00:59,789 before I kinda jump into those, Christy, I 25 00:00:59,789 --> 00:01:00,909 was wondering if you could please just share 26 00:01:00,909 --> 00:01:02,829 a little bit about your background and your 27 00:01:02,829 --> 00:01:03,570 career journey. 28 00:01:04,030 --> 00:01:04,849 Yeah. Absolutely. 29 00:01:05,229 --> 00:01:07,310 So as you said, I'm the vice president 30 00:01:07,310 --> 00:01:09,329 for provider partnerships at EleventHealth. 31 00:01:10,109 --> 00:01:12,530 In that role, I lead our national strategy 32 00:01:12,670 --> 00:01:16,165 for provider partnerships and value based care across 33 00:01:16,165 --> 00:01:19,224 our Medicare, Medicaid, and commercial lines of business. 34 00:01:19,525 --> 00:01:23,045 So really focusing on improving cost, quality, and 35 00:01:23,045 --> 00:01:24,104 our member experience. 36 00:01:24,644 --> 00:01:27,045 I I bring a unique perspective to this 37 00:01:27,045 --> 00:01:29,444 work because I've spent my career in health 38 00:01:29,444 --> 00:01:29,944 care 39 00:01:30,329 --> 00:01:32,890 viewing health care from multiple different angles. So 40 00:01:32,890 --> 00:01:36,030 I've held leadership positions at hospital systems, 41 00:01:36,649 --> 00:01:37,869 primary care organizations, 42 00:01:38,649 --> 00:01:39,469 health plans. 43 00:01:39,769 --> 00:01:42,729 I've run value based physician partnerships with full 44 00:01:42,729 --> 00:01:43,789 P and L accountability. 45 00:01:44,375 --> 00:01:47,174 I've worked directly with providers as they have 46 00:01:47,174 --> 00:01:50,215 transitioned from fee for service into downside risk 47 00:01:50,215 --> 00:01:50,715 models. 48 00:01:51,174 --> 00:01:53,894 So that really that experience really shapes how 49 00:01:53,894 --> 00:01:55,114 I approach the role. 50 00:01:55,415 --> 00:01:58,954 So I've seen firsthand that value based care 51 00:01:59,340 --> 00:02:00,959 only works when it's practical, 52 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:03,040 when incentives are aligned, 53 00:02:03,420 --> 00:02:06,479 data is actionable, and providers are genuinely 54 00:02:06,780 --> 00:02:08,319 supported and not overwhelmed. 55 00:02:08,939 --> 00:02:11,759 So my focus at Allavance is on enabling 56 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:12,959 provider success, 57 00:02:13,335 --> 00:02:14,314 reducing friction, 58 00:02:14,935 --> 00:02:18,055 and building partnerships that deliver measurable outcomes for 59 00:02:18,055 --> 00:02:18,555 providers, 60 00:02:19,014 --> 00:02:20,555 members, and for the business. 61 00:02:21,574 --> 00:02:23,175 Thank you, Christy. And I appreciate you sharing 62 00:02:23,175 --> 00:02:24,854 all that background info. And, yeah, we're you 63 00:02:24,854 --> 00:02:27,073 definitely have a unique perspective. And not only 64 00:02:27,073 --> 00:02:28,219 are you gonna lean on that for your 65 00:02:28,300 --> 00:02:30,219 with you, today in the podcast, but we're 66 00:02:30,219 --> 00:02:31,659 really looking forward to having you speak at 67 00:02:31,659 --> 00:02:33,979 our event, in April to spring payer issues 68 00:02:33,979 --> 00:02:36,459 roundtable. So excited to have you there. And, 69 00:02:36,459 --> 00:02:38,219 you you know, the first question I wanna 70 00:02:38,219 --> 00:02:40,000 get to from your perspective 71 00:02:40,844 --> 00:02:42,625 and something we hear about at our conferences 72 00:02:42,685 --> 00:02:43,185 especially 73 00:02:43,485 --> 00:02:44,864 is how relationships 74 00:02:45,164 --> 00:02:45,664 are 75 00:02:45,965 --> 00:02:48,384 changing a bit, evolving a little bit with 76 00:02:48,444 --> 00:02:49,745 health plans and providers. 77 00:02:50,125 --> 00:02:52,444 How are your relationship with providers changing as 78 00:02:52,444 --> 00:02:54,604 both sides face, you know, right now, cost 79 00:02:54,604 --> 00:02:55,104 pressure 80 00:02:55,540 --> 00:02:56,760 and workforce shortages? 81 00:02:57,620 --> 00:02:59,780 Yeah. That's such a great question. Those challenges 82 00:02:59,780 --> 00:03:00,439 are real. 83 00:03:00,819 --> 00:03:01,879 Provider relationships 84 00:03:02,260 --> 00:03:03,879 are becoming more pragmatic 85 00:03:04,180 --> 00:03:05,000 and interdependent. 86 00:03:05,939 --> 00:03:08,200 As we look at the landscape costs, 87 00:03:08,835 --> 00:03:11,415 workforce challenges, and just overall industry 88 00:03:11,794 --> 00:03:12,294 complexity, 89 00:03:12,995 --> 00:03:16,134 it's forcing us to shift away from transactional 90 00:03:16,514 --> 00:03:17,014 contracting 91 00:03:17,875 --> 00:03:19,094 to true partnerships. 92 00:03:20,115 --> 00:03:23,014 At a high level, success from my provider 93 00:03:23,074 --> 00:03:24,215 partnership background, 94 00:03:24,650 --> 00:03:25,550 it really requires 95 00:03:25,930 --> 00:03:27,310 three things working 96 00:03:27,849 --> 00:03:30,030 together, effective provider engagement, 97 00:03:30,810 --> 00:03:32,110 well designed incentives, 98 00:03:32,490 --> 00:03:35,150 and connected actionable data. 99 00:03:35,530 --> 00:03:38,569 When those elements are aligned, you can really 100 00:03:38,569 --> 00:03:41,824 begin to create a connected care ecosystem. 101 00:03:42,844 --> 00:03:45,585 So what's changing most is the conversation. 102 00:03:46,604 --> 00:03:50,384 Providers don't need more measures or reporting requirements. 103 00:03:51,085 --> 00:03:53,805 What they need is help removing friction in 104 00:03:53,805 --> 00:03:55,185 their day to day operations, 105 00:03:55,750 --> 00:03:58,709 as well as clarity on what actually drives 106 00:03:58,709 --> 00:03:59,209 outcomes. 107 00:03:59,830 --> 00:04:03,030 So that means designing incentives that are focused 108 00:04:03,269 --> 00:04:04,969 that focus attention on 109 00:04:05,430 --> 00:04:07,129 actions that matter most 110 00:04:07,509 --> 00:04:08,205 and invest 111 00:04:08,685 --> 00:04:11,745 in dedicated engagement teams that can meet providers 112 00:04:11,805 --> 00:04:15,344 where they are and delivering data through unified 113 00:04:15,485 --> 00:04:18,064 platforms that providers can actually use. 114 00:04:18,605 --> 00:04:21,324 When you combine that with innovative use of 115 00:04:21,324 --> 00:04:21,824 technology 116 00:04:22,639 --> 00:04:24,180 and artificial intelligence, 117 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,360 you can really start to lower cost, improve 118 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:27,860 outcomes, 119 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,220 and reduce burden all at the same time. 120 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,120 Our strongest provider relationships today are the ones 121 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,460 that are built on trust and shared accountability 122 00:04:38,615 --> 00:04:41,095 and a real commitment to making it easier 123 00:04:41,095 --> 00:04:44,074 to deliver care, not making it more complex. 124 00:04:45,254 --> 00:04:46,775 Absolutely. I I think those are a lot 125 00:04:46,775 --> 00:04:49,754 of things that'll definitely strengthen that provider, 126 00:04:50,295 --> 00:04:52,770 relationship with with health plans. And, Christy, do 127 00:04:52,770 --> 00:04:54,290 you have is do you have an example 128 00:04:54,290 --> 00:04:56,090 of of you you know, I I think 129 00:04:56,090 --> 00:04:57,410 it was a great point you made. Do 130 00:04:57,410 --> 00:04:58,850 you have an example of, like, an action 131 00:04:58,850 --> 00:04:59,350 driven 132 00:04:59,730 --> 00:05:00,230 incentive 133 00:05:00,770 --> 00:05:02,689 that that you're trying to incorporate or have 134 00:05:02,689 --> 00:05:03,189 incorporated? 135 00:05:04,050 --> 00:05:05,730 Yeah. One of the things that we're doing 136 00:05:05,730 --> 00:05:09,115 is really focusing around quality outcomes 137 00:05:09,975 --> 00:05:13,274 and looking at how do we reward providers 138 00:05:13,574 --> 00:05:16,454 for closing quality care gaps. So we in 139 00:05:16,454 --> 00:05:18,555 in this year are beginning to 140 00:05:19,269 --> 00:05:20,329 expand our reach 141 00:05:20,789 --> 00:05:24,229 of inviting providers in to participate in our 142 00:05:24,229 --> 00:05:25,930 pay for quality program 143 00:05:26,310 --> 00:05:27,449 that really incentivizes 144 00:05:27,909 --> 00:05:29,050 providers to 145 00:05:29,509 --> 00:05:32,310 close care gaps and aligns and simplifies the 146 00:05:32,310 --> 00:05:34,409 work for them to actually do that. So 147 00:05:34,534 --> 00:05:37,175 we're super excited about being able to expand 148 00:05:37,175 --> 00:05:38,474 that program this year. 149 00:05:39,254 --> 00:05:40,794 Where do you see the biggest gap 150 00:05:41,095 --> 00:05:44,235 right now between payer strategy and operational 151 00:05:44,615 --> 00:05:45,115 execution? 152 00:05:46,055 --> 00:05:47,495 Yeah. I I don't know that I would 153 00:05:47,495 --> 00:05:48,714 describe it necessarily 154 00:05:49,175 --> 00:05:50,154 as a gap, 155 00:05:50,910 --> 00:05:53,470 maybe more as a moment of transition for 156 00:05:53,470 --> 00:05:54,129 the industry. 157 00:05:54,509 --> 00:05:56,669 Okay. The the future of health care really 158 00:05:56,669 --> 00:05:59,310 has to be built around outcomes. We've focused 159 00:05:59,310 --> 00:06:00,610 so much on transactions 160 00:06:01,069 --> 00:06:03,550 in the past. And moving forward, I think 161 00:06:03,550 --> 00:06:05,250 we really have to focus on 162 00:06:05,735 --> 00:06:08,395 aligning around incentives that improve health 163 00:06:08,774 --> 00:06:09,754 versus just 164 00:06:10,055 --> 00:06:11,915 just focusing on delivery of services. 165 00:06:12,855 --> 00:06:15,574 Value based care for Elevance Health, it isn't 166 00:06:15,574 --> 00:06:17,595 a pilot. It's not a side initiative. 167 00:06:18,055 --> 00:06:19,754 It's truly how we operate. 168 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,040 And you can see that embedded in our 169 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:22,540 provider 170 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:23,420 partnerships, 171 00:06:23,879 --> 00:06:26,300 in the way that we're designing our products, 172 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,540 in how we're engaging our consumers. 173 00:06:29,319 --> 00:06:32,620 And the results that we're seeing are real. 174 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,699 In 2024, 175 00:06:35,995 --> 00:06:37,774 65.5% 176 00:06:37,834 --> 00:06:39,134 of our total medical 177 00:06:39,435 --> 00:06:42,314 spend was aligned to value based care, and 178 00:06:42,314 --> 00:06:43,435 37% 179 00:06:43,435 --> 00:06:45,194 of that was in shared risk, which is 180 00:06:45,194 --> 00:06:47,055 an increase over the prior year. 181 00:06:47,620 --> 00:06:48,600 And the impact, 182 00:06:49,220 --> 00:06:51,639 of that, the outcomes are really impactful. 183 00:06:52,259 --> 00:06:55,860 In our, Medicare Advantage plans, we're seeing that 184 00:06:55,860 --> 00:06:57,079 value based providers 185 00:06:57,699 --> 00:06:58,199 demonstrated 186 00:06:58,899 --> 00:07:00,259 3.9% 187 00:07:00,259 --> 00:07:01,240 lower MLR 188 00:07:01,995 --> 00:07:04,574 compared to non value based providers, 189 00:07:05,194 --> 00:07:06,415 and they've outperformed 190 00:07:06,795 --> 00:07:09,595 year over year on nearly 74% 191 00:07:09,595 --> 00:07:11,134 of our STARS quality measures. 192 00:07:12,154 --> 00:07:12,654 Additionally, 193 00:07:13,115 --> 00:07:14,314 76% 194 00:07:14,314 --> 00:07:17,029 of our value based practices improved their overall 195 00:07:17,029 --> 00:07:17,930 stars performance 196 00:07:18,389 --> 00:07:19,529 in that same period. 197 00:07:20,149 --> 00:07:22,629 So the strategy is right, yet it it 198 00:07:22,629 --> 00:07:23,930 really only works 199 00:07:24,310 --> 00:07:27,689 when it shows up simply and clearly. Ideally, 200 00:07:28,310 --> 00:07:31,314 it's directly within the provider's work flow 201 00:07:31,615 --> 00:07:34,034 where it can can really reduce complexity. 202 00:07:34,814 --> 00:07:37,055 And so that's where the next phase of 203 00:07:37,055 --> 00:07:38,194 operational excellence 204 00:07:38,735 --> 00:07:39,555 really matters. 205 00:07:40,894 --> 00:07:43,774 Along the same lines of reducing complexity, Christy, 206 00:07:43,774 --> 00:07:46,259 what's one investment or initiative you believe will 207 00:07:46,259 --> 00:07:48,899 most reshape how health plans operate over the 208 00:07:48,899 --> 00:07:50,360 next two to three years? 209 00:07:51,220 --> 00:07:53,139 That's a great question. As I stated in 210 00:07:53,139 --> 00:07:54,680 my intro, I've worked across 211 00:07:55,139 --> 00:07:55,639 multiple, 212 00:07:56,420 --> 00:07:59,319 components of the health care ecosystem, hospitals, 213 00:08:00,115 --> 00:08:01,974 physician groups, health plans. 214 00:08:02,354 --> 00:08:05,474 And that's that perspective has reinforced one thing 215 00:08:05,474 --> 00:08:07,555 for me. Partnerships have been done well or 216 00:08:07,555 --> 00:08:09,474 one of the most powerful levers that we 217 00:08:09,474 --> 00:08:09,974 have. 218 00:08:10,834 --> 00:08:11,814 Many providers, 219 00:08:12,889 --> 00:08:15,470 particularly smaller and independent groups, 220 00:08:16,009 --> 00:08:18,110 are operating in constrained environments. 221 00:08:18,729 --> 00:08:21,209 They have the ability to succeed in value 222 00:08:21,209 --> 00:08:23,689 based care, but they often just don't have 223 00:08:23,689 --> 00:08:26,649 the scale, the infrastructure, or the support that's 224 00:08:26,649 --> 00:08:27,149 needed 225 00:08:27,454 --> 00:08:29,634 to make that transition effectively. 226 00:08:30,894 --> 00:08:33,455 That's where our national value partners play a 227 00:08:33,455 --> 00:08:36,335 really critical role. So we work with these 228 00:08:36,335 --> 00:08:38,835 partners to extend capabilities 229 00:08:39,294 --> 00:08:41,075 to smaller provider groups, 230 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,420 and they help those smaller provider groups standardize 231 00:08:45,279 --> 00:08:45,779 data 232 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,139 flows, close care gaps, and prioritize 233 00:08:49,759 --> 00:08:53,379 interventions that actually move outcomes at a clinical 234 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:53,940 level. 235 00:08:54,725 --> 00:08:55,865 The goal isn't 236 00:08:56,404 --> 00:08:59,784 to favor larger providers. It's really about lifting 237 00:08:59,924 --> 00:09:00,424 performance 238 00:09:00,804 --> 00:09:02,345 across the overall ecosystem 239 00:09:03,044 --> 00:09:06,184 to make value based care accessible and sustainable 240 00:09:06,324 --> 00:09:08,024 for providers of all sizes. 241 00:09:08,980 --> 00:09:11,480 So when when payers and these national 242 00:09:11,940 --> 00:09:12,919 value partners 243 00:09:13,940 --> 00:09:16,740 team up with our local providers and share 244 00:09:16,740 --> 00:09:17,240 knowledge 245 00:09:17,700 --> 00:09:20,200 and operate in an integrated system, 246 00:09:20,660 --> 00:09:23,779 everyone benefits, providers get the tools and support 247 00:09:23,779 --> 00:09:24,440 they need, 248 00:09:24,785 --> 00:09:27,605 health plans see better cost and quality performance, 249 00:09:28,144 --> 00:09:31,605 and members receive more coordinated and proactive care. 250 00:09:31,985 --> 00:09:34,545 So it's a true partnership model that's focused 251 00:09:34,545 --> 00:09:35,285 on enabling. 252 00:09:35,904 --> 00:09:38,165 That's really what's gonna help reshape 253 00:09:38,860 --> 00:09:41,179 how health plans operate over the next few 254 00:09:41,179 --> 00:09:41,679 years. 255 00:09:42,700 --> 00:09:44,399 Yeah. I really like that point about lifting 256 00:09:44,460 --> 00:09:46,620 performance across the board and kind of focusing 257 00:09:46,620 --> 00:09:47,899 there and not just, you know, it's just 258 00:09:47,899 --> 00:09:49,340 not just about paying attention to the big 259 00:09:49,340 --> 00:09:51,100 ones. I think, yeah, everyone benefits from that, 260 00:09:51,100 --> 00:09:52,995 and that it's such a great, you know, 261 00:09:52,995 --> 00:09:54,514 use of time and effort to focus on 262 00:09:54,514 --> 00:09:55,014 that. 263 00:09:55,394 --> 00:09:56,695 If you could change one 264 00:09:57,154 --> 00:10:00,535 regulatory or industry practice tomorrow to improve affordability 265 00:10:00,595 --> 00:10:01,254 and access, 266 00:10:01,875 --> 00:10:03,174 what would it be and why? 267 00:10:04,035 --> 00:10:06,879 Yeah. That's another great question. Yeah. I think 268 00:10:06,879 --> 00:10:08,659 there's such a need for simplification 269 00:10:09,279 --> 00:10:11,620 in the industry. So I would simplify 270 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:15,699 and standardize administrative requirements across the industry, 271 00:10:16,159 --> 00:10:16,659 particularly 272 00:10:17,039 --> 00:10:19,220 around two areas, prior authorization 273 00:10:19,759 --> 00:10:21,059 and quality reporting. 274 00:10:22,424 --> 00:10:24,825 Traditionally, health plans have focused on paying for 275 00:10:24,825 --> 00:10:27,565 care, managing costs, and ensuring quality. 276 00:10:28,345 --> 00:10:30,985 Today, though, we recognize that most of the 277 00:10:30,985 --> 00:10:33,785 drivers of health happen outside of the clinical 278 00:10:33,785 --> 00:10:34,285 setting. 279 00:10:34,664 --> 00:10:35,164 In 280 00:10:35,549 --> 00:10:39,070 excessive administrative burden, it really pulls time and 281 00:10:39,070 --> 00:10:42,049 resources away from where it matters most. 282 00:10:42,830 --> 00:10:46,669 At Elevent's Health, we're using advanced digital tools 283 00:10:46,669 --> 00:10:49,730 and artificial intelligence to make health care simpler 284 00:10:50,214 --> 00:10:52,235 and more affordable and more personalized. 285 00:10:53,174 --> 00:10:56,774 This empowers our care providers to enhance health 286 00:10:56,774 --> 00:10:57,274 outcomes. 287 00:10:57,654 --> 00:10:58,554 So, for example, 288 00:10:59,335 --> 00:11:03,095 we're using digital tools to help identify care 289 00:11:03,095 --> 00:11:03,995 gaps quickly 290 00:11:04,299 --> 00:11:06,080 and support treatment decisions, 291 00:11:06,460 --> 00:11:08,960 and that really is helping improve health outcomes. 292 00:11:09,740 --> 00:11:11,200 We're also appropriately 293 00:11:11,580 --> 00:11:12,080 leveraging 294 00:11:13,019 --> 00:11:14,080 digital technologies 295 00:11:14,700 --> 00:11:16,160 for tasks like 296 00:11:16,644 --> 00:11:19,384 claims review and provider data updates, 297 00:11:19,764 --> 00:11:22,325 and it's helping us to ensure smoother and 298 00:11:22,325 --> 00:11:23,304 faster service. 299 00:11:24,004 --> 00:11:25,144 So as a result, 300 00:11:25,605 --> 00:11:28,404 AI enabled tools are cutting down on time 301 00:11:28,404 --> 00:11:29,625 consuming tasks 302 00:11:30,110 --> 00:11:31,810 so care providers can focus 303 00:11:32,190 --> 00:11:33,570 more time with patients. 304 00:11:34,509 --> 00:11:36,930 So my hope is that a more holistic 305 00:11:37,070 --> 00:11:39,570 and streamlined approach becomes the norm, 306 00:11:40,350 --> 00:11:43,774 one where digital advances are used to personalize 307 00:11:43,914 --> 00:11:46,394 care and eliminate friction, not not add to 308 00:11:46,394 --> 00:11:49,115 it. We have enough adding to friction in 309 00:11:49,115 --> 00:11:49,855 the industry. 310 00:11:50,554 --> 00:11:53,034 So so again, success really, really comes back 311 00:11:53,034 --> 00:11:55,914 to those three key elements working together in 312 00:11:55,914 --> 00:11:56,414 concert. 313 00:11:57,269 --> 00:11:58,649 Effective provider engagement, 314 00:11:59,029 --> 00:12:00,250 well designed incentives, 315 00:12:00,950 --> 00:12:03,290 and connected data working together. 316 00:12:03,750 --> 00:12:06,649 So the big picture is then a connected 317 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:07,529 care ecosystem. 318 00:12:08,790 --> 00:12:10,710 Yeah. I think digital tools are obviously making 319 00:12:10,710 --> 00:12:12,995 a huge difference for health plans right now 320 00:12:13,215 --> 00:12:14,355 in so many regards. 321 00:12:14,975 --> 00:12:16,495 What digital tool do you think has helped 322 00:12:16,495 --> 00:12:17,634 the LVNs the most? 323 00:12:18,415 --> 00:12:21,235 Yeah. I think that that we're really focused 324 00:12:21,375 --> 00:12:24,095 on there's there's several digital tools that we're 325 00:12:24,095 --> 00:12:26,669 work working through. One of them is that 326 00:12:26,669 --> 00:12:30,129 we are using digital technologies to automate 327 00:12:30,909 --> 00:12:32,029 our post call, 328 00:12:32,589 --> 00:12:33,490 wrap up summaries, 329 00:12:33,949 --> 00:12:34,929 and we're incorporating 330 00:12:35,389 --> 00:12:38,589 issue detection and smart routing into each of 331 00:12:38,589 --> 00:12:41,089 those calls that which really helps to improve 332 00:12:41,684 --> 00:12:45,225 our associates' ability to manage large call volumes 333 00:12:45,605 --> 00:12:47,544 and enhance the customer experience. 334 00:12:48,085 --> 00:12:51,144 So each month, we're averaging about 1,000,000 335 00:12:51,365 --> 00:12:52,184 post call 336 00:12:52,565 --> 00:12:55,879 wrap up summaries, which translates into really meaningful 337 00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:57,879 time savings and better experience. 338 00:12:58,580 --> 00:13:01,000 And then we're using those same capabilities 339 00:13:01,539 --> 00:13:02,039 externally 340 00:13:02,580 --> 00:13:05,399 to help providers spend less time on administrative 341 00:13:05,620 --> 00:13:08,279 work and more time with patients. So that 342 00:13:08,419 --> 00:13:09,159 whether it's 343 00:13:09,504 --> 00:13:12,865 time spent reviewing claims or processing provider data 344 00:13:12,865 --> 00:13:16,544 updates or identifying care gaps, the goal is 345 00:13:16,544 --> 00:13:19,284 really the same. We're simplifying how we work, 346 00:13:19,985 --> 00:13:20,485 we're 347 00:13:20,944 --> 00:13:21,444 personalizing 348 00:13:21,824 --> 00:13:22,324 experience, 349 00:13:22,670 --> 00:13:23,649 and really empowering 350 00:13:24,029 --> 00:13:25,970 providers to enhance health outcomes. 351 00:13:26,830 --> 00:13:28,350 That's incredible. Not only think about how much 352 00:13:28,350 --> 00:13:30,750 time was is saved with with that, but 353 00:13:30,750 --> 00:13:33,149 what people can do with that time. That's 354 00:13:33,309 --> 00:13:34,290 I think it's phenomenal. 355 00:13:34,830 --> 00:13:36,450 The last question I have for you, Christy, 356 00:13:37,065 --> 00:13:39,325 what issue is putting the most pressure 357 00:13:39,785 --> 00:13:42,105 on health plan margins right now, and how 358 00:13:42,105 --> 00:13:44,024 are you responding differently or how will you 359 00:13:44,024 --> 00:13:46,024 respond differently in in 2026 360 00:13:46,024 --> 00:13:48,105 here? Yeah. And we we touch on that 361 00:13:48,105 --> 00:13:49,165 a little bit. Yeah. 362 00:13:49,799 --> 00:13:52,460 Health care costs, they're shaped by many forces. 363 00:13:52,519 --> 00:13:54,220 Hospital prices, pharmaceutical 364 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,700 costs, health insurance costs, 365 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,539 advances in technology, 366 00:13:59,000 --> 00:13:59,980 changing regulations. 367 00:14:00,919 --> 00:14:02,940 We we all have a role to play, 368 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,764 across the entire health care ecosystem 369 00:14:06,304 --> 00:14:08,384 to help make sure that members are receiving 370 00:14:08,384 --> 00:14:10,065 the care that they need at the most 371 00:14:10,065 --> 00:14:12,404 affordable cost. It's it's a really important 372 00:14:12,945 --> 00:14:14,245 focus for Elevance. 373 00:14:15,024 --> 00:14:16,304 In 2026, 374 00:14:16,304 --> 00:14:19,044 my provider partnership team is focused on 375 00:14:19,559 --> 00:14:21,899 optimizing our value based portfolio 376 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:23,500 and scaling 377 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,160 risk where providers are ready and investing in 378 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,960 enablement to really truly drive health care, 379 00:14:30,519 --> 00:14:32,059 outcomes and affordability. 380 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,539 And as we've talked about previously, 381 00:14:35,534 --> 00:14:38,254 technology and AI are such a critical part 382 00:14:38,254 --> 00:14:38,914 of that. 383 00:14:39,294 --> 00:14:41,534 And it's not about creating tech for tech's 384 00:14:41,534 --> 00:14:44,274 sake. The main goal really is about improving 385 00:14:44,334 --> 00:14:45,475 the health care experience 386 00:14:45,934 --> 00:14:47,794 for both providers and members. 387 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:50,740 So I talked a little bit about internal 388 00:14:50,740 --> 00:14:53,139 automation and how much time we're able to 389 00:14:53,139 --> 00:14:53,639 spend 390 00:14:54,019 --> 00:14:55,799 or how much time we're able 391 00:14:56,419 --> 00:14:59,860 to save by removing those manual tasks and 392 00:14:59,860 --> 00:15:02,659 allowing greater focus, for our members and for 393 00:15:02,659 --> 00:15:03,399 their experiences. 394 00:15:04,245 --> 00:15:05,705 And we're deploying those, 395 00:15:06,404 --> 00:15:07,225 same capabilities 396 00:15:07,684 --> 00:15:09,764 for our care providers to really do the 397 00:15:09,764 --> 00:15:13,285 same and and really in enabling them to 398 00:15:13,285 --> 00:15:15,625 focus their time with patients. 399 00:15:16,750 --> 00:15:17,970 So margin improvement, 400 00:15:18,350 --> 00:15:19,970 from my view, comes from 401 00:15:20,509 --> 00:15:22,289 enabling the right partnerships 402 00:15:23,149 --> 00:15:25,389 at the right level of risk with the 403 00:15:25,389 --> 00:15:26,289 right support 404 00:15:26,750 --> 00:15:29,809 and measuring success by outcome and not activity. 405 00:15:31,225 --> 00:15:33,485 So again, success comes from 406 00:15:34,105 --> 00:15:36,125 those three elements working together: 407 00:15:36,664 --> 00:15:38,125 effective provider engagement, 408 00:15:38,745 --> 00:15:42,745 well designed incentives, and connected actionable data. When 409 00:15:42,745 --> 00:15:44,365 those elements are aligned, 410 00:15:44,799 --> 00:15:46,960 you can really start to create a connected 411 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:47,779 care ecosystem 412 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,759 that produces better outcomes and affordability for our 413 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:52,259 members. 414 00:15:53,438 --> 00:15:55,278 Christy, thanks so much for joining the podcast. 415 00:15:55,278 --> 00:15:56,759 It was a great conversation. I look forward 416 00:15:56,759 --> 00:15:58,099 to working with you again soon. 417 00:15:58,479 --> 00:16:00,158 Likewise. Thank you so much for your time 418 00:16:00,158 --> 00:16:01,378 and for having me today.