1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,740 Evernorth brings the power of wonder and relentless 2 00:00:02,799 --> 00:00:05,599 innovation to create world class pharmacy, care, and 3 00:00:05,599 --> 00:00:06,580 benefit solutions. 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,960 Barriers to care can lead to gaps in 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,719 care, which can drive up the total cost 6 00:00:10,719 --> 00:00:13,839 of care. Our capabilities work seamlessly together to 7 00:00:13,839 --> 00:00:17,245 create innovative pharmacy care and benefit solutions for 8 00:00:17,245 --> 00:00:18,225 today and tomorrow. 9 00:00:18,765 --> 00:00:21,565 Our connected health services make the treatment, prediction, 10 00:00:21,565 --> 00:00:24,225 and prevention of health care's most complex conditions 11 00:00:24,685 --> 00:00:27,265 easier and more accessible as we drive organizations 12 00:00:27,404 --> 00:00:28,464 and people forward. 13 00:00:29,039 --> 00:00:31,119 This is Haley Recker with the Becker's Payer 14 00:00:31,119 --> 00:00:32,960 podcast, and we are recording live at the 15 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,700 Becker's third annual spring care issues roundtable. 16 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,920 Today, I am thrilled to be joined by 17 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:38,820 Brian Smolich, 18 00:00:39,199 --> 00:00:41,679 VP of quality and managed care operations at 19 00:00:41,679 --> 00:00:44,115 Health Alliance Medical Plans. Brian, thank you so 20 00:00:44,115 --> 00:00:45,795 much for being with me today. Yeah. Thanks. 21 00:00:45,795 --> 00:00:48,435 Good morning. Good morning to you too. So 22 00:00:48,435 --> 00:00:50,115 before we begin, I'd like to have you 23 00:00:50,115 --> 00:00:52,115 just introduce yourself and share a little bit 24 00:00:52,115 --> 00:00:53,975 more about your background and your organization. 25 00:00:54,274 --> 00:00:54,774 Sure. 26 00:00:55,315 --> 00:00:56,854 So my name is Brian Smolich. 27 00:00:57,179 --> 00:00:58,939 I serve as vice president of quality and 28 00:00:58,939 --> 00:01:02,000 managed care operations for Healthline's medical plans 29 00:01:02,460 --> 00:01:04,939 and First Carolina Care. We're part of the 30 00:01:04,939 --> 00:01:07,680 Carle Health System, and we serve patients 31 00:01:08,219 --> 00:01:11,340 that are primarily located in, Central And Southern 32 00:01:11,340 --> 00:01:13,454 Illinois as well as North Carolina. 33 00:01:14,474 --> 00:01:15,454 I have responsibilities 34 00:01:16,075 --> 00:01:16,575 of, 35 00:01:17,114 --> 00:01:17,614 pharmacy, 36 00:01:17,994 --> 00:01:18,974 medical management, 37 00:01:19,754 --> 00:01:20,254 quality, 38 00:01:20,555 --> 00:01:21,935 and our member relations, 39 00:01:22,795 --> 00:01:23,694 appeals team 40 00:01:24,075 --> 00:01:24,974 at our health. 41 00:01:25,630 --> 00:01:26,990 Well, thank you so much for sharing a 42 00:01:26,990 --> 00:01:28,909 little bit about your background. Now to begin 43 00:01:28,909 --> 00:01:30,590 our conversation today, I'd like to kick it 44 00:01:30,590 --> 00:01:33,569 off by talking about balancing affordability and quality. 45 00:01:33,870 --> 00:01:35,250 So how is your organization 46 00:01:35,710 --> 00:01:37,630 innovating to manage the cost of care while 47 00:01:37,630 --> 00:01:39,490 maintaining or improving member outcomes? 48 00:01:40,135 --> 00:01:42,215 Yeah. So at Health Alliance Medical Plans and 49 00:01:42,215 --> 00:01:44,935 First Carolina Care, quality is at the center 50 00:01:44,935 --> 00:01:46,314 of everything that we do. 51 00:01:46,614 --> 00:01:48,134 You know, you you really have to put 52 00:01:48,134 --> 00:01:48,634 quality 53 00:01:48,935 --> 00:01:50,634 in front of cost and affordability. 54 00:01:50,935 --> 00:01:53,334 But, you know, we we do realize that 55 00:01:53,334 --> 00:01:56,380 if if you're not financially sound and and 56 00:01:56,380 --> 00:01:58,079 you're not able to balance 57 00:01:58,459 --> 00:02:02,079 premiums and and revenue with rising cost, then 58 00:02:02,140 --> 00:02:05,020 it's gonna be difficult to, you know, offer 59 00:02:05,020 --> 00:02:07,340 the plans and and benefits that you want 60 00:02:07,340 --> 00:02:08,400 to members. 61 00:02:08,915 --> 00:02:10,514 But for us, I mean, our people are 62 00:02:10,514 --> 00:02:11,735 exceptional. They 63 00:02:12,034 --> 00:02:12,534 have 64 00:02:13,075 --> 00:02:13,655 a wonderful, 65 00:02:14,594 --> 00:02:17,555 engagement with our members, our customer solutions team, 66 00:02:17,555 --> 00:02:20,135 our case management team, and our clinical platforms 67 00:02:20,915 --> 00:02:23,314 really take the view of working collaboratively with 68 00:02:23,314 --> 00:02:25,400 the provider to ensure patients have the best 69 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:25,900 care. 70 00:02:26,599 --> 00:02:27,819 So far as innovation, 71 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,719 you know, we've put a lot of focus 72 00:02:29,719 --> 00:02:31,800 in the biosimilar space at least on the 73 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,180 pharmacy benefit side. That has really helped us 74 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,419 reduce costs on medications 75 00:02:38,415 --> 00:02:39,074 without compromising 76 00:02:40,014 --> 00:02:40,514 patients' 77 00:02:40,814 --> 00:02:43,555 access to care or helping us to afford 78 00:02:43,854 --> 00:02:46,275 additional therapies that are newer or novel. 79 00:02:46,974 --> 00:02:48,655 I'd like to explore that a little bit 80 00:02:48,655 --> 00:02:51,375 further on the basis of member satisfaction as 81 00:02:51,375 --> 00:02:54,250 a whole. So what experience or engagement strategies 82 00:02:54,250 --> 00:02:56,329 have proven effective for your organization, and how 83 00:02:56,329 --> 00:02:57,789 are you measuring that success? 84 00:02:58,569 --> 00:02:59,789 Yeah. So our organization, 85 00:03:00,969 --> 00:03:04,169 tracks not only, on our our vertically integrated 86 00:03:04,169 --> 00:03:06,504 health system, the provider side MPS four, but 87 00:03:06,504 --> 00:03:09,324 we're also tracking health plan MPS four. 88 00:03:09,625 --> 00:03:11,625 And I think we do an exceptional job 89 00:03:11,625 --> 00:03:14,604 of engaging members through our customer solutions team. 90 00:03:15,625 --> 00:03:16,525 They also 91 00:03:16,824 --> 00:03:19,405 have the resources to tap into our clinical 92 00:03:19,544 --> 00:03:20,044 experts, 93 00:03:20,449 --> 00:03:21,669 So there's a lot more 94 00:03:21,969 --> 00:03:22,469 collaboration 95 00:03:23,009 --> 00:03:24,870 on individual patient cases, 96 00:03:25,409 --> 00:03:28,610 connecting the dots and getting patients access to 97 00:03:28,610 --> 00:03:30,549 our medical management team, a pharmacist, 98 00:03:30,849 --> 00:03:33,974 our population health or care coordination team. I 99 00:03:33,974 --> 00:03:36,615 think really making it easier for patients to 100 00:03:36,615 --> 00:03:38,235 navigate has been helpful. 101 00:03:38,534 --> 00:03:40,715 We've also utilized digital solutions 102 00:03:41,014 --> 00:03:41,754 and vendors, 103 00:03:42,455 --> 00:03:44,235 some of which, you know, 104 00:03:44,615 --> 00:03:45,514 have gamified, 105 00:03:46,615 --> 00:03:48,155 health care and and 106 00:03:48,490 --> 00:03:50,909 healthy behaviors like medication adherence, 107 00:03:51,210 --> 00:03:53,389 and we're seeing a lot of positive outcomes 108 00:03:53,689 --> 00:03:56,750 from member engagement through those digital platforms. 109 00:03:57,530 --> 00:03:59,290 The other benefit they provide for us is 110 00:03:59,290 --> 00:04:01,129 their high touch. You know, members will be 111 00:04:01,129 --> 00:04:02,349 in apps daily 112 00:04:03,215 --> 00:04:03,974 completing tech, 113 00:04:04,415 --> 00:04:07,775 activities and and earning rewards. And we can 114 00:04:07,775 --> 00:04:10,094 also then engage them with prompts and gaps 115 00:04:10,094 --> 00:04:11,615 in care and things that they need to 116 00:04:11,615 --> 00:04:14,014 do where that becomes much more difficult when 117 00:04:14,014 --> 00:04:15,955 you're trying to engage a member just telephonically 118 00:04:16,415 --> 00:04:16,654 and, 119 00:04:17,329 --> 00:04:17,990 the hesitancy 120 00:04:18,290 --> 00:04:20,209 to to pick up a phone. So I 121 00:04:20,209 --> 00:04:23,029 think we've really seen how how the digital 122 00:04:23,170 --> 00:04:25,509 solutions that we employ can supplement 123 00:04:25,970 --> 00:04:27,490 all the great work that our people are 124 00:04:27,490 --> 00:04:28,470 doing at the planet. 125 00:04:29,745 --> 00:04:32,085 Absolutely. And I'd like to pivot our conversation 126 00:04:32,145 --> 00:04:34,064 just a little bit to the imperative to 127 00:04:34,064 --> 00:04:36,965 reduce costs, improve quality, and advance health equity. 128 00:04:37,185 --> 00:04:39,105 So how do you approach aligning these priorities 129 00:04:39,105 --> 00:04:41,205 in your organization's strategic vision? 130 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,259 I think it all goes back to quality, 131 00:04:44,319 --> 00:04:44,639 and, 132 00:04:45,199 --> 00:04:47,939 I I think our geography in in Central 133 00:04:48,319 --> 00:04:50,500 Illinois as well as in North Carolina, 134 00:04:50,959 --> 00:04:53,519 you know, our being a regional health plan, 135 00:04:53,519 --> 00:04:54,019 we 136 00:04:54,875 --> 00:04:58,574 directly interact on a daily basis with individuals 137 00:04:58,954 --> 00:05:01,354 that have our health care coverage. So I 138 00:05:01,354 --> 00:05:03,354 think that becomes the center of what you 139 00:05:03,354 --> 00:05:06,394 do. You you know that, you're improving the 140 00:05:06,394 --> 00:05:08,659 care within your communities, and that makes the 141 00:05:08,659 --> 00:05:10,439 work that we do very rewarding. 142 00:05:11,699 --> 00:05:12,360 I think, 143 00:05:13,060 --> 00:05:13,560 overall, 144 00:05:13,939 --> 00:05:16,919 we we look at approaches to reduce costs 145 00:05:16,979 --> 00:05:17,479 within, 146 00:05:18,099 --> 00:05:19,240 what we can control, 147 00:05:19,699 --> 00:05:21,915 but I think the general philosophy 148 00:05:22,475 --> 00:05:25,514 improving the care and access to health care 149 00:05:25,514 --> 00:05:27,214 in our communities and bettering, 150 00:05:28,235 --> 00:05:30,335 the population is kind of our North Star 151 00:05:30,714 --> 00:05:32,254 in knowing that this 152 00:05:33,035 --> 00:05:35,455 is health care that impacts those that we 153 00:05:35,629 --> 00:05:37,870 work with, our family, our friends, and and 154 00:05:37,870 --> 00:05:39,949 I think that really becomes impactful when you 155 00:05:39,949 --> 00:05:40,610 think about 156 00:05:41,149 --> 00:05:41,649 quality, 157 00:05:42,110 --> 00:05:43,810 in the patients we serve. 158 00:05:44,990 --> 00:05:46,829 And looking ahead, I wanna talk a little 159 00:05:46,829 --> 00:05:48,430 bit more about the future of the payer 160 00:05:48,430 --> 00:05:50,189 space. So what do you see are the 161 00:05:50,189 --> 00:05:51,415 biggest opportunities 162 00:05:51,954 --> 00:05:53,714 for payers to lead the charge in transforming 163 00:05:53,714 --> 00:05:55,795 care delivery and driving better outcomes for all 164 00:05:55,795 --> 00:05:56,295 stakeholders? 165 00:05:56,675 --> 00:05:58,115 And how can leaders take a step in 166 00:05:58,115 --> 00:05:59,254 this direction now? 167 00:05:59,634 --> 00:06:00,535 Yeah. I think, 168 00:06:01,235 --> 00:06:03,475 a big area of opportunity is to continuing 169 00:06:03,475 --> 00:06:06,290 to bridge the gap between providers and health 170 00:06:06,290 --> 00:06:06,790 plans. 171 00:06:07,649 --> 00:06:08,709 You know, for years 172 00:06:09,089 --> 00:06:09,589 and 173 00:06:09,970 --> 00:06:12,629 even today, there's oftentimes an adversarial 174 00:06:13,009 --> 00:06:15,490 approach, and I think that puts the patient 175 00:06:15,490 --> 00:06:17,910 in the middle of a lot of dynamics 176 00:06:18,209 --> 00:06:19,004 that make, 177 00:06:19,564 --> 00:06:21,504 navigating health care more difficult. 178 00:06:21,964 --> 00:06:24,125 I know at our health care organization, we're 179 00:06:24,125 --> 00:06:26,925 trying to work collaboratively with providers to pass 180 00:06:26,925 --> 00:06:27,824 more information, 181 00:06:29,084 --> 00:06:29,745 to make, 182 00:06:30,205 --> 00:06:32,205 you know, access to information that the health 183 00:06:32,205 --> 00:06:34,370 plan has easier and to reduce some of 184 00:06:34,370 --> 00:06:35,910 the burden in prior authorization, 185 00:06:36,930 --> 00:06:39,490 but really involving the provider and and finding 186 00:06:39,490 --> 00:06:42,850 a solution where we can work collaboratively with 187 00:06:42,850 --> 00:06:46,209 them to have a win win situation and 188 00:06:46,209 --> 00:06:46,949 and make 189 00:06:47,435 --> 00:06:49,435 all of the navigating of health care and 190 00:06:49,435 --> 00:06:49,935 promoting, 191 00:06:50,475 --> 00:06:52,335 you know, providers as as 192 00:06:52,714 --> 00:06:55,115 key resources in in a patient's health care 193 00:06:55,115 --> 00:06:57,435 journey as well as the provider recognizing that 194 00:06:57,435 --> 00:06:59,115 the health plan is trying to do the 195 00:06:59,115 --> 00:07:01,115 best interest in the patient and making sure 196 00:07:01,115 --> 00:07:03,509 that health care remains affordable. I'd like to 197 00:07:03,509 --> 00:07:05,750 see that dynamic happen, and I think it's, 198 00:07:06,069 --> 00:07:09,430 just continuing to build bridges with providers, trying 199 00:07:09,430 --> 00:07:11,669 to see how we can make their lives 200 00:07:11,669 --> 00:07:13,370 easier on providing 201 00:07:13,829 --> 00:07:16,069 access to care and reducing some of the 202 00:07:16,069 --> 00:07:17,910 the challenges that they face on a daily 203 00:07:17,910 --> 00:07:18,410 basis. 204 00:07:19,165 --> 00:07:21,004 Well, Brian, thank you so much for taking 205 00:07:21,004 --> 00:07:22,925 the time to have this conversation with me 206 00:07:22,925 --> 00:07:25,165 today. Again, this is Haley Becker with the 207 00:07:25,165 --> 00:07:28,125 Becker's Payer podcast recording live at the Becker's 208 00:07:28,125 --> 00:07:30,845 third annual spring payer issues roundtable. Thank you 209 00:07:30,845 --> 00:07:32,064 so much. Thank you.