1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,740 Evernorth brings the power of wonder and relentless 2 00:00:02,799 --> 00:00:05,599 innovation to create world class pharmacy, care, and 3 00:00:05,599 --> 00:00:06,580 benefit solutions. 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,960 Barriers to care can lead to gaps in 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,719 care, which can drive up the total cost 6 00:00:10,719 --> 00:00:13,839 of care. Our capabilities work seamlessly together to 7 00:00:13,839 --> 00:00:17,245 create innovative pharmacy care and benefit solutions for 8 00:00:17,245 --> 00:00:18,225 today and tomorrow. 9 00:00:18,765 --> 00:00:21,565 Our connected health services make the treatment, prediction, 10 00:00:21,565 --> 00:00:24,225 and prevention of health care's most complex conditions 11 00:00:24,765 --> 00:00:27,345 easier and more accessible as we drive organizations 12 00:00:27,484 --> 00:00:29,609 and people forward. Hello, and welcome to the 13 00:00:29,609 --> 00:00:32,090 Becker's Payers Issues podcast recorded live at the 14 00:00:32,090 --> 00:00:34,570 third annual spring Payers Issues roundtable here in 15 00:00:34,570 --> 00:00:35,070 Chicago. 16 00:00:35,450 --> 00:00:37,530 I'm joined today by Karina Lupercio and Ann 17 00:00:37,530 --> 00:00:38,350 Marie Gomez. 18 00:00:38,890 --> 00:00:40,409 Karina, can you start by taking a moment 19 00:00:40,409 --> 00:00:41,869 to introduce yourself and your organization? 20 00:00:42,225 --> 00:00:44,145 Absolutely. Good morning, and thank you for having 21 00:00:44,145 --> 00:00:46,065 me. I'm excited to be here. My name 22 00:00:46,065 --> 00:00:48,225 is Karina Lupercio, and I serve as vice 23 00:00:48,225 --> 00:00:51,024 president of market integration and data quality management 24 00:00:51,024 --> 00:00:52,005 at Healthcare Highways. 25 00:00:52,465 --> 00:00:55,204 Our organization was founded in 02/2013, 26 00:00:55,409 --> 00:00:58,630 and we initially operated in Oklahoma before expanding 27 00:00:58,850 --> 00:00:59,670 into Texas 28 00:01:00,049 --> 00:01:02,630 and forming our first joint venture in Louisiana. 29 00:01:03,409 --> 00:01:06,290 We focus on building curated provider networks and 30 00:01:06,290 --> 00:01:09,109 delivering the technology and the operational infrastructure 31 00:01:09,495 --> 00:01:11,174 for clients who want to run their own 32 00:01:11,174 --> 00:01:11,915 health plan. 33 00:01:12,295 --> 00:01:14,775 In my role specifically, I lead joint venture 34 00:01:14,775 --> 00:01:15,275 implementations 35 00:01:15,814 --> 00:01:18,935 often between hospital systems and their provider sponsored 36 00:01:18,935 --> 00:01:19,674 health plans. 37 00:01:20,055 --> 00:01:22,399 My job is to ensure that the overall 38 00:01:22,399 --> 00:01:24,799 structure is in place and fully operational by 39 00:01:24,799 --> 00:01:25,700 the launch date. 40 00:01:26,079 --> 00:01:29,759 That includes everything from project management, facilitating steering 41 00:01:29,759 --> 00:01:33,140 committees, and work groups to coordinating across departments. 42 00:01:33,679 --> 00:01:35,795 There are a lot of moving parts, and 43 00:01:35,795 --> 00:01:38,134 every hospital system we partner with is different. 44 00:01:38,435 --> 00:01:41,394 Some have robust internal teams, while others need 45 00:01:41,394 --> 00:01:42,534 more hands on guidance. 46 00:01:42,915 --> 00:01:46,134 That also means I spend time listening, understanding 47 00:01:46,194 --> 00:01:46,935 the organization's 48 00:01:47,234 --> 00:01:47,734 culture, 49 00:01:48,114 --> 00:01:50,034 pain points, and where they need the most 50 00:01:50,034 --> 00:01:50,534 support. 51 00:01:51,049 --> 00:01:53,530 It's never a one size fits all. And 52 00:01:53,530 --> 00:01:55,870 what what makes the work so meaningful, 53 00:01:56,890 --> 00:01:59,849 is that we're building something truly custom for 54 00:01:59,849 --> 00:02:00,670 each community. 55 00:02:00,969 --> 00:02:02,409 But at the end of the day, my 56 00:02:02,409 --> 00:02:04,424 role is to ensure that all of those 57 00:02:04,424 --> 00:02:06,745 moving parts align so that the hospital system 58 00:02:06,745 --> 00:02:09,245 is fully equipped to operate as a payer 59 00:02:09,305 --> 00:02:10,764 on time and with confidence. 60 00:02:11,145 --> 00:02:12,745 That's just one of the many ways that 61 00:02:12,745 --> 00:02:13,405 I contribute. 62 00:02:14,264 --> 00:02:16,365 Now, Ann Marie, would you mind introducing yourself? 63 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:18,170 Hi. 64 00:02:18,629 --> 00:02:21,430 I'm Ann Marie Gomez, senior director of marketing 65 00:02:21,430 --> 00:02:23,290 communications at Healthcare Highways. 66 00:02:23,990 --> 00:02:27,050 My journey into marketing started with a passion 67 00:02:27,270 --> 00:02:28,170 for advertising, 68 00:02:28,550 --> 00:02:30,889 but what really hooked me was a strategy 69 00:02:30,950 --> 00:02:33,864 behind it all. The idea that data could 70 00:02:33,864 --> 00:02:34,685 steer decisions 71 00:02:35,064 --> 00:02:37,384 and that delivering the right message at the 72 00:02:37,384 --> 00:02:39,965 right time could truly hit home with people. 73 00:02:40,824 --> 00:02:43,564 I quickly learned that data isn't just about 74 00:02:44,230 --> 00:02:45,610 looking at past behavior. 75 00:02:45,909 --> 00:02:47,990 It's an awesome way to predict what people 76 00:02:47,990 --> 00:02:50,969 might need next and create communications that resonate. 77 00:02:51,670 --> 00:02:53,590 I fell in love with using tech and 78 00:02:53,590 --> 00:02:56,469 data tools like CRM and marketing automation and 79 00:02:56,469 --> 00:02:59,129 predictive modeling to connect with the right audience. 80 00:03:00,164 --> 00:03:01,384 I gained my expertise 81 00:03:01,685 --> 00:03:04,324 working in fast paced agency settings where I 82 00:03:04,324 --> 00:03:08,084 handle loyalty programs and managed omnichannel campaigns for 83 00:03:08,084 --> 00:03:09,544 retail and tech brands. 84 00:03:10,084 --> 00:03:12,584 Then I made the leap into health care, 85 00:03:12,645 --> 00:03:14,344 and that's when it all clicked. 86 00:03:15,020 --> 00:03:17,819 I realized marketing could do so much more 87 00:03:17,819 --> 00:03:20,000 than just sell products or services. 88 00:03:20,620 --> 00:03:22,879 It could actually help people navigate 89 00:03:23,259 --> 00:03:24,080 tough choices 90 00:03:24,459 --> 00:03:27,120 and feel supported during some of life's 91 00:03:27,485 --> 00:03:28,144 key moments. 92 00:03:28,924 --> 00:03:31,564 Now I'm leading marketing and communications at my 93 00:03:31,564 --> 00:03:33,185 company, Health Care Highways, 94 00:03:33,564 --> 00:03:35,805 and we're shaking things up in the employer 95 00:03:35,805 --> 00:03:37,104 sponsored health plans. 96 00:03:37,484 --> 00:03:38,625 It's pretty exciting. 97 00:03:39,579 --> 00:03:40,319 We're challenging 98 00:03:40,620 --> 00:03:42,479 the norm by offering employers 99 00:03:43,019 --> 00:03:43,919 real alternatives 100 00:03:44,539 --> 00:03:46,159 to the big national carriers. 101 00:03:47,259 --> 00:03:49,579 We are doing this by proving that high 102 00:03:49,579 --> 00:03:52,855 performance provider networks lead to more effective health 103 00:03:52,855 --> 00:03:53,355 plans. 104 00:03:53,895 --> 00:03:55,275 With the right design, 105 00:03:55,575 --> 00:03:57,194 employers can offer access 106 00:03:57,735 --> 00:04:00,375 to high quality care and get more value 107 00:04:00,375 --> 00:04:01,754 out of every dollar spent. 108 00:04:02,294 --> 00:04:04,534 It's a win for them and for their 109 00:04:04,534 --> 00:04:05,034 employees. 110 00:04:06,239 --> 00:04:09,680 Thus, I focus on creating engaging content that 111 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,099 sparks interest and drives growth. 112 00:04:12,639 --> 00:04:15,439 But the real win comes when employers can 113 00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:18,479 give their teams access to quality health care 114 00:04:18,479 --> 00:04:20,100 without breaking the bank. 115 00:04:20,944 --> 00:04:22,004 How is this done? 116 00:04:22,704 --> 00:04:26,084 It's through implementing effective provider network design, 117 00:04:26,544 --> 00:04:29,764 which can save cost and boost employee satisfaction 118 00:04:30,384 --> 00:04:33,365 by ensuring they can receive the proper care 119 00:04:33,664 --> 00:04:34,805 in the right place 120 00:04:35,439 --> 00:04:38,240 at the right time, but most importantly, for 121 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,139 the right price. 122 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,600 At the end of the day, I'm all 123 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,240 about using marketing, not just to promote, but 124 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,060 to educate, 125 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:46,899 build trust, 126 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,399 and enhance the health care experience for everyone 127 00:04:50,399 --> 00:04:50,899 involved. 128 00:04:51,895 --> 00:04:54,694 So balancing affordability and quality is a constant 129 00:04:54,694 --> 00:04:57,035 challenge for health plans. How is your organization 130 00:04:57,095 --> 00:04:59,175 innovating to manage the cost of care while 131 00:04:59,175 --> 00:05:01,115 maintaining or improving member outcomes? 132 00:05:01,814 --> 00:05:03,035 That's a great question, 133 00:05:03,495 --> 00:05:05,254 and it really gets to the heart of 134 00:05:05,254 --> 00:05:06,795 what we do at HealthCare Highways. 135 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,740 We're focused on redefining how care is delivered 136 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:11,699 and paid for. 137 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,199 It starts with our curated high performance provider 138 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:15,699 networks. 139 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,860 What do we mean by curated? 140 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,120 When we say curated, we mean we just 141 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,365 don't include every hospital or doctor out there 142 00:05:24,425 --> 00:05:26,045 like the big national carriers. 143 00:05:26,985 --> 00:05:30,925 We carefully select providers who deliver great care, 144 00:05:31,305 --> 00:05:32,524 have strong outcomes, 145 00:05:32,904 --> 00:05:35,404 and are committed to keeping costs reasonable. 146 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,139 It's quality over quantity approach. 147 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,480 We don't believe in massive one size fits 148 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:43,379 all networks. 149 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,040 Instead, we partner with health care systems and 150 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,939 providers that meet rigorous quality standards 151 00:05:50,324 --> 00:05:52,985 and are aligned around value based care. 152 00:05:54,004 --> 00:05:54,824 These partnerships 153 00:05:55,204 --> 00:05:57,285 help us ensure members are getting the right 154 00:05:57,285 --> 00:05:59,444 care from the right providers at the right 155 00:05:59,444 --> 00:05:59,944 time, 156 00:06:00,404 --> 00:06:02,024 but that's just the beginning. 157 00:06:03,060 --> 00:06:05,160 We're also committed to price transparency. 158 00:06:05,939 --> 00:06:08,920 When employers and members know what costs upfront, 159 00:06:09,460 --> 00:06:10,279 they're empowered 160 00:06:10,580 --> 00:06:13,160 to make smarter, more informed decisions. 161 00:06:13,939 --> 00:06:16,660 It's about removing the mystery from medical billing 162 00:06:16,660 --> 00:06:18,975 and replacing it with clarity and confidence. 163 00:06:20,154 --> 00:06:22,714 And beyond that, our model is built to 164 00:06:22,714 --> 00:06:24,495 support advanced care management. 165 00:06:24,955 --> 00:06:28,154 We leverage data and predictive analytics to coordinate 166 00:06:28,154 --> 00:06:29,375 care more effectively, 167 00:06:30,074 --> 00:06:33,214 especially for members with chronic or complex conditions. 168 00:06:33,990 --> 00:06:36,250 This includes proactive wellness initiatives, 169 00:06:36,790 --> 00:06:39,110 helping members navigate their benefits in a way 170 00:06:39,110 --> 00:06:41,610 that feels human and is not transactional. 171 00:06:43,110 --> 00:06:45,529 So all of this, curated networks, 172 00:06:45,910 --> 00:06:47,129 transparent pricing, 173 00:06:47,589 --> 00:06:48,970 proactive care coordination, 174 00:06:50,045 --> 00:06:52,365 adds up to better outcomes and real cost 175 00:06:52,365 --> 00:06:52,865 savings. 176 00:06:53,805 --> 00:06:56,384 We're making health care work better for employers, 177 00:06:56,605 --> 00:06:59,245 for members, and for the providers delivering the 178 00:06:59,245 --> 00:06:59,745 care. 179 00:07:00,444 --> 00:07:02,444 Now, Karina, I'm gonna turn this next one 180 00:07:02,444 --> 00:07:05,220 over to you. Addressing health equity has become 181 00:07:05,220 --> 00:07:07,699 a critical focus for many health plans. Can 182 00:07:07,699 --> 00:07:09,300 you share a brief overview of a key 183 00:07:09,300 --> 00:07:12,099 initiative here that you that you're involved in 184 00:07:12,099 --> 00:07:14,180 or particularly excited about? And, what are you 185 00:07:14,180 --> 00:07:15,079 hoping to achieve? 186 00:07:15,544 --> 00:07:17,964 I'm excited about the panel on health literacy 187 00:07:18,024 --> 00:07:20,824 happening tomorrow because to me, that's where the 188 00:07:20,824 --> 00:07:22,845 work of health equity truly begins. 189 00:07:23,225 --> 00:07:24,764 The idea of simplifying 190 00:07:25,064 --> 00:07:26,524 complex health care information, 191 00:07:27,064 --> 00:07:30,370 integrating mobile tools, and tailoring outreach to meet 192 00:07:30,370 --> 00:07:33,009 people where they are, that's where the real 193 00:07:33,009 --> 00:07:35,889 impact lies. It's also a topic that's deeply 194 00:07:35,889 --> 00:07:38,050 personal to me because I come from an 195 00:07:38,050 --> 00:07:41,089 immigrant family. And growing up, navigating The US 196 00:07:41,089 --> 00:07:43,675 health care system was hard. We didn't always 197 00:07:43,675 --> 00:07:46,335 know what was covered, how to access care, 198 00:07:46,395 --> 00:07:48,955 or even who to turn to. Even today, 199 00:07:48,955 --> 00:07:51,035 as I help my own parents transition into 200 00:07:51,035 --> 00:07:53,455 Medicare, I realize it's still hard. 201 00:07:53,915 --> 00:07:55,835 There are so many different types of plans 202 00:07:55,835 --> 00:07:57,694 and coverage levels. It's overwhelming 203 00:07:58,074 --> 00:07:59,699 even for those of of of us who 204 00:07:59,699 --> 00:08:00,919 work in the industry. 205 00:08:01,379 --> 00:08:03,620 And hidden in all of that complexity are 206 00:08:03,620 --> 00:08:06,099 important details, like the fact that some plans 207 00:08:06,099 --> 00:08:06,919 offer incentives 208 00:08:07,300 --> 00:08:08,039 for completing 209 00:08:08,339 --> 00:08:09,479 preventative screenings. 210 00:08:10,099 --> 00:08:12,099 But that information is hard to find and 211 00:08:12,099 --> 00:08:15,074 easy to miss. And that matters because these 212 00:08:15,074 --> 00:08:15,895 missed opportunities 213 00:08:16,355 --> 00:08:17,975 could impact patient outcomes. 214 00:08:18,915 --> 00:08:20,935 So how do we communicate that better? 215 00:08:21,314 --> 00:08:23,154 It's something I've had to explain to my 216 00:08:23,154 --> 00:08:25,795 own parents, and every time I'm reminded how 217 00:08:25,795 --> 00:08:29,000 confusing the system can be. That lived experience 218 00:08:29,060 --> 00:08:31,699 has shaped how I see health equity, not 219 00:08:31,699 --> 00:08:34,500 as an abstract com concept, but as something 220 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:35,480 deeply human. 221 00:08:35,940 --> 00:08:38,340 For me, health literacy is the entry point 222 00:08:38,340 --> 00:08:39,000 to equity. 223 00:08:39,379 --> 00:08:41,460 You can have the best doctors, the best 224 00:08:41,460 --> 00:08:43,320 hospitals, and the best benefits, 225 00:08:43,754 --> 00:08:46,554 but if people don't understand them, they won't 226 00:08:46,554 --> 00:08:48,735 use them. And I've seen how marginalized 227 00:08:49,035 --> 00:08:52,154 communities, especially those where English isn't the first 228 00:08:52,154 --> 00:08:54,975 language, face yet another layer of complexity 229 00:08:55,514 --> 00:08:57,134 when trying to access care. 230 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:59,990 It's not just a language barrier, it's a 231 00:08:59,990 --> 00:09:02,250 fluency barrier with the entire system. 232 00:09:02,629 --> 00:09:05,190 That's why I'm so passionate about initiatives that 233 00:09:05,190 --> 00:09:07,850 help people not just learn about their health, 234 00:09:07,910 --> 00:09:10,149 but also how to navigate the system around 235 00:09:10,149 --> 00:09:13,044 it. And this goes beyond brochures and websites. 236 00:09:13,424 --> 00:09:14,485 It's about consistent, 237 00:09:14,865 --> 00:09:16,485 culturally competent communication, 238 00:09:17,024 --> 00:09:19,284 whether that's through a bilingual care navigator, 239 00:09:19,745 --> 00:09:23,365 community health events, or partnerships with trusted organizations. 240 00:09:24,250 --> 00:09:26,909 True health literacy isn't just about information. 241 00:09:27,289 --> 00:09:30,029 It's about access, trust, and understanding. 242 00:09:30,649 --> 00:09:32,970 And so I'm hopeful that health plans will 243 00:09:32,970 --> 00:09:35,289 start seeing education as a core part of 244 00:09:35,289 --> 00:09:37,610 member care, not just as an add on, 245 00:09:37,610 --> 00:09:39,230 but as an essential service. 246 00:09:39,605 --> 00:09:41,305 Because if we want better outcomes, 247 00:09:41,764 --> 00:09:44,345 we have to build a better understanding first. 248 00:09:44,644 --> 00:09:46,725 And I want families like mine to feel 249 00:09:46,725 --> 00:09:49,365 empowered, not confused when it comes to managing 250 00:09:49,365 --> 00:09:52,504 their health. Because when people understand their care, 251 00:09:52,700 --> 00:09:55,100 they're more likely to trust it. And that's 252 00:09:55,100 --> 00:09:57,019 how we start to close the gaps. That's 253 00:09:57,019 --> 00:09:59,019 what I wish my family had, and it's 254 00:09:59,019 --> 00:10:01,019 what drives me every day to help make 255 00:10:01,019 --> 00:10:02,000 the system better. 256 00:10:03,179 --> 00:10:04,779 Karina, I can really see why you're so 257 00:10:04,779 --> 00:10:06,779 passionate about that. I really appreciate you sharing 258 00:10:06,779 --> 00:10:07,919 that personal story. 259 00:10:08,574 --> 00:10:09,475 Now, Anne Marie, 260 00:10:09,855 --> 00:10:12,654 I wanna ask you. So member satisfaction is 261 00:10:12,654 --> 00:10:14,995 essential to thrive in today's competitive market. 262 00:10:15,774 --> 00:10:18,815 What experience or engagement strategies have proven effective 263 00:10:18,815 --> 00:10:19,634 for your organization, 264 00:10:20,095 --> 00:10:21,774 and, you know, what are your KPIs? How 265 00:10:21,774 --> 00:10:22,995 are you managing success? 266 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,120 Absolutely. And it's a good segue off of 267 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,679 what Karina had mentioned about health equity and 268 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,059 education for the members. 269 00:10:30,839 --> 00:10:32,779 Member satisfaction is everything 270 00:10:33,159 --> 00:10:34,779 in today's health care environment. 271 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,819 People are no longer just patients. 272 00:10:38,195 --> 00:10:41,154 They're consumers, and they expect healthcare to feel 273 00:10:41,154 --> 00:10:41,815 more personal, 274 00:10:42,195 --> 00:10:44,375 more transparent, and easier to navigate. 275 00:10:45,075 --> 00:10:47,075 One of the most effective strategies I have 276 00:10:47,075 --> 00:10:49,475 found is showing up for members in real 277 00:10:49,475 --> 00:10:50,534 tangible ways. 278 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:53,290 And this is through personalized outreach, 279 00:10:53,670 --> 00:10:55,370 providing bilingual resources, 280 00:10:55,830 --> 00:10:58,389 and easy to understand materials that help take 281 00:10:58,389 --> 00:11:00,090 the guesswork out of their benefits. 282 00:11:00,950 --> 00:11:03,590 We also work closely with our partners and 283 00:11:03,590 --> 00:11:06,810 our internal team to provide on-site support. 284 00:11:07,565 --> 00:11:08,465 This is through 285 00:11:08,924 --> 00:11:11,585 real people who are available to answer questions, 286 00:11:12,285 --> 00:11:15,085 help with benefit navigation, and be a friendly 287 00:11:15,085 --> 00:11:17,024 face when members need it most. 288 00:11:17,804 --> 00:11:18,785 Whether it's 289 00:11:19,299 --> 00:11:20,519 during open enrollment, 290 00:11:21,059 --> 00:11:23,399 onboarding, or just day to day life. 291 00:11:23,860 --> 00:11:26,440 That kind of presence makes a huge impact. 292 00:11:26,980 --> 00:11:29,639 It turns the health care experience from confusing 293 00:11:29,779 --> 00:11:32,840 and frustrating into one that's approachable and human. 294 00:11:33,215 --> 00:11:35,455 And it's not just about being went there 295 00:11:35,455 --> 00:11:36,915 when something goes wrong. 296 00:11:37,535 --> 00:11:40,115 We partner with care coordination services, 297 00:11:40,415 --> 00:11:42,355 chronic condition support programs, 298 00:11:43,134 --> 00:11:44,674 and primary care providers 299 00:11:45,054 --> 00:11:47,715 to proactively help members stay healthier. 300 00:11:48,779 --> 00:11:50,940 The more engaged people are with their care 301 00:11:50,940 --> 00:11:53,419 early on, the better the outcomes and the 302 00:11:53,419 --> 00:11:54,720 more trust we build. 303 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:58,320 We measure success through a mix of data, 304 00:11:58,860 --> 00:12:01,600 engagement metrics, satisfaction surveys, 305 00:12:01,914 --> 00:12:04,735 net promoter scores, and the stories we hear. 306 00:12:05,514 --> 00:12:09,115 Because when members tell us that her person 307 00:12:09,115 --> 00:12:10,955 helped me when I didn't know where to 308 00:12:10,955 --> 00:12:11,455 turn, 309 00:12:11,914 --> 00:12:14,254 that's when we know we're doing something right. 310 00:12:14,580 --> 00:12:16,519 Because at the end of the day, satisfaction 311 00:12:16,740 --> 00:12:19,700 isn't just a number. It's how someone feels 312 00:12:19,700 --> 00:12:21,240 when they know they're not alone, 313 00:12:21,620 --> 00:12:23,800 especially when they need medical help. 314 00:12:24,740 --> 00:12:26,899 And, Maria, I really love that answer, especially 315 00:12:26,899 --> 00:12:28,580 when, you know, you're saying it lets people 316 00:12:28,580 --> 00:12:30,434 know they're not alone. Karina, 317 00:12:31,134 --> 00:12:33,855 final question. Looking ahead, what do you see 318 00:12:33,855 --> 00:12:35,934 as the biggest opportunity for payers to lead 319 00:12:35,934 --> 00:12:38,095 the charge in transforming health care delivery and 320 00:12:38,095 --> 00:12:39,955 driving better outcomes for all stakeholders? 321 00:12:40,654 --> 00:12:42,095 How can leaders take a step in this 322 00:12:42,095 --> 00:12:43,235 direction right now? 323 00:12:43,839 --> 00:12:46,480 Everything that Anne Marie said reinforces the point 324 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,379 that today's members expect more, and they should. 325 00:12:49,759 --> 00:12:51,440 And as we look ahead, this is one 326 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,440 of the most exciting moments I've seen in 327 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,320 health care. The opportunity for payers isn't just 328 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,664 to optimize what we already do. It's to 329 00:12:58,664 --> 00:13:01,325 reimagine how we show up for members, providers, 330 00:13:01,465 --> 00:13:02,445 and our communities. 331 00:13:02,985 --> 00:13:06,504 Artificial intelligence or AI gives us the tools 332 00:13:06,504 --> 00:13:09,164 to rethink, not just automate how we work. 333 00:13:09,225 --> 00:13:12,585 It helps streamline operations, speed up decision making, 334 00:13:12,585 --> 00:13:13,245 and proactively 335 00:13:13,625 --> 00:13:16,639 identify care needs, often before a member even 336 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:17,940 knows to ask for help. 337 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,659 But I think the biggest shift is this. 338 00:13:21,039 --> 00:13:22,980 AI allows us to be proactive 339 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:24,579 and not reactive. 340 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,539 We can use data not just to analyze 341 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,014 what went wrong, but to anticipate what could 342 00:13:30,014 --> 00:13:32,735 go right. For the first time, we have 343 00:13:32,735 --> 00:13:34,654 the tools to act on that insight at 344 00:13:34,654 --> 00:13:35,154 scale. 345 00:13:35,774 --> 00:13:36,754 It's an opportunity 346 00:13:37,134 --> 00:13:39,375 we haven't had before, and now is the 347 00:13:39,375 --> 00:13:41,730 time to take full advantage of it. It 348 00:13:41,730 --> 00:13:45,590 unlocks earlier outreach, smarter navigation, and more personalized 349 00:13:45,649 --> 00:13:46,389 care journeys. 350 00:13:47,009 --> 00:13:49,649 And it's not about replacing people. It's about 351 00:13:49,649 --> 00:13:52,690 empowering people, especially those on the front line 352 00:13:52,690 --> 00:13:54,149 to do more of what matters. 353 00:13:54,769 --> 00:13:55,269 Imagine 354 00:13:55,794 --> 00:13:58,195 freeing up time for a care manager to 355 00:13:58,195 --> 00:14:00,995 focus on a high risk member because AI 356 00:14:00,995 --> 00:14:03,634 is handling the repeatable admin task in the 357 00:14:03,634 --> 00:14:04,134 background. 358 00:14:04,835 --> 00:14:06,215 One of the biggest opportunities 359 00:14:07,075 --> 00:14:07,735 I see 360 00:14:08,399 --> 00:14:10,959 transforming the front door of health care is 361 00:14:10,959 --> 00:14:12,980 making the member experience intuitive, 362 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,620 digital first, and built around trust. 363 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,100 But all of that depends on one thing, 364 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:18,899 readiness. 365 00:14:19,679 --> 00:14:20,980 Readiness in your data, 366 00:14:21,315 --> 00:14:23,975 readiness in your people, readiness in your mindset. 367 00:14:24,355 --> 00:14:26,535 So how can leaders take that step now? 368 00:14:26,915 --> 00:14:27,735 For leaders, 369 00:14:28,195 --> 00:14:30,695 I believe it means committing to continuous learning. 370 00:14:31,875 --> 00:14:34,294 The leaders who stay curious, who evolve 371 00:14:34,595 --> 00:14:35,735 alongside the technology 372 00:14:36,309 --> 00:14:38,809 are the ones who will create lasting change. 373 00:14:39,190 --> 00:14:41,830 The pace of change is, like, unlike anything 374 00:14:41,830 --> 00:14:44,790 we've seen, and AI has only accelerated that 375 00:14:44,790 --> 00:14:47,430 curve. To lead in this moment, we don't 376 00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:48,490 have to know everything, 377 00:14:48,815 --> 00:14:50,414 but we do have to be willing to 378 00:14:50,414 --> 00:14:53,875 keep learning because staying open and adaptable 379 00:14:54,254 --> 00:14:55,475 alongside the technology 380 00:14:56,014 --> 00:14:58,014 is what will allow us to lead through 381 00:14:58,014 --> 00:15:00,654 the change, not just react to it. And 382 00:15:00,654 --> 00:15:02,894 that's what excites me. We're not just building 383 00:15:02,894 --> 00:15:05,559 tools. We're building entirely new ways to think 384 00:15:05,559 --> 00:15:06,539 about care delivery. 385 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:07,659 The organizations 386 00:15:08,039 --> 00:15:10,940 that embrace this mindset are going to reshape 387 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,919 what it means to be a payer, a 388 00:15:12,919 --> 00:15:15,100 partner, and a leader in this industry. 389 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,925 These are exciting times. And the real question 390 00:15:17,925 --> 00:15:20,565 now isn't whether we can transform care. It's 391 00:15:20,565 --> 00:15:22,345 whether we're bold enough to lead it. 392 00:15:23,045 --> 00:15:25,684 Well, Karina and Marie, I really appreciate you 393 00:15:25,684 --> 00:15:27,445 both joining us today on the Becker's Healthcare 394 00:15:27,445 --> 00:15:29,684 podcast. It's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you 395 00:15:29,684 --> 00:15:30,425 so much. 396 00:15:30,996 --> 00:15:32,756 Thank you. It was a pleasure. You both 397 00:15:32,756 --> 00:15:34,216 have a lovely rest of your day.