1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,620 This is Scott Becker with the special edition 2 00:00:03,679 --> 00:00:05,759 of the Becker's health care and the Becker 3 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:07,540 private equity and business podcast. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,400 Thrilled today to be joined by a long 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,179 term professional in leadership, 6 00:00:12,799 --> 00:00:13,859 Todd Feathering. 7 00:00:14,375 --> 00:00:17,175 And Todd's got this fascinating career. Currently, he 8 00:00:17,175 --> 00:00:18,714 serves as a board member. 9 00:00:19,095 --> 00:00:20,714 He also describes himself 10 00:00:21,095 --> 00:00:23,815 as an author, a speaker, a health data 11 00:00:23,815 --> 00:00:25,114 and analytics leader. 12 00:00:26,135 --> 00:00:26,714 He also, 13 00:00:27,629 --> 00:00:30,670 like myself, is a weekend golfer chasing even 14 00:00:30,670 --> 00:00:33,469 par. Although for me, I'm not chasing even 15 00:00:33,469 --> 00:00:35,409 par. I'm just trying to stay okay. 16 00:00:36,509 --> 00:00:38,670 Todd, let me we'll talk today about trends, 17 00:00:38,670 --> 00:00:40,429 about what you're most focused on, where you're 18 00:00:40,429 --> 00:00:42,210 most excited, and a lot more. 19 00:00:43,034 --> 00:00:45,115 Take a second and introduce yourself to the 20 00:00:45,115 --> 00:00:45,615 audience. 21 00:00:46,554 --> 00:00:48,314 Yeah. Thanks so much for having me today, 22 00:00:48,314 --> 00:00:49,854 Scott. Todd Feddling. 23 00:00:50,795 --> 00:00:54,234 After thirty five years in health care data 24 00:00:54,234 --> 00:00:54,734 analytics 25 00:00:55,114 --> 00:00:57,534 and running five startup companies, 26 00:00:58,070 --> 00:00:59,590 So I did take a little break for 27 00:00:59,590 --> 00:01:00,950 the last year and a half, and I've 28 00:01:00,950 --> 00:01:02,570 been writing four books. 29 00:01:03,190 --> 00:01:06,170 And I know you're also in the process 30 00:01:06,310 --> 00:01:08,250 of finishing a book, and 31 00:01:08,630 --> 00:01:10,790 I am super excited to read that as 32 00:01:10,790 --> 00:01:11,290 well. 33 00:01:11,834 --> 00:01:13,674 Would would thank you. Talk about what you 34 00:01:13,674 --> 00:01:15,275 write about. Where do you spend your time 35 00:01:15,275 --> 00:01:17,135 speaking and and writing today? 36 00:01:18,075 --> 00:01:20,954 Yeah. So the books all came about as 37 00:01:20,954 --> 00:01:21,534 a result 38 00:01:21,875 --> 00:01:22,375 of 39 00:01:22,715 --> 00:01:23,534 my experiences 40 00:01:24,234 --> 00:01:26,174 is as an entrepreneur and doing 41 00:01:26,620 --> 00:01:28,879 startups in the in the health care analytics 42 00:01:29,019 --> 00:01:29,519 space. 43 00:01:29,979 --> 00:01:33,340 I have these frameworks in my head, four 44 00:01:33,340 --> 00:01:36,140 frameworks that I just felt like I needed 45 00:01:36,140 --> 00:01:38,000 to get down on paper. 46 00:01:38,459 --> 00:01:39,739 And so that's, 47 00:01:40,364 --> 00:01:42,284 what I've been focused on, and they break 48 00:01:42,284 --> 00:01:42,784 down 49 00:01:43,244 --> 00:01:43,984 into strategy, 50 00:01:44,604 --> 00:01:45,665 advanced analytics, 51 00:01:46,364 --> 00:01:48,465 what I call decision sciences, 52 00:01:48,924 --> 00:01:49,744 and leadership. 53 00:01:51,004 --> 00:01:54,625 And of those subject x, strategy, decision sciences, 54 00:01:55,379 --> 00:01:55,879 leadership, 55 00:01:56,180 --> 00:01:57,640 just to name three of those, 56 00:01:57,939 --> 00:01:59,780 what excites you the most? What do you 57 00:01:59,780 --> 00:02:01,780 find the most interesting when you start writing 58 00:02:01,780 --> 00:02:03,700 about it, thinking about it? Where do you 59 00:02:03,700 --> 00:02:05,859 where does your where do you gravitate to? 60 00:02:05,859 --> 00:02:07,540 If you didn't have to discipline yourself to 61 00:02:07,540 --> 00:02:08,979 write on all four or five, and I 62 00:02:08,979 --> 00:02:10,580 I know you they're all waivers of love, 63 00:02:10,580 --> 00:02:13,294 really. What's something you find most interesting? 64 00:02:14,235 --> 00:02:16,415 I think what I am finding most interesting 65 00:02:16,555 --> 00:02:18,014 is this intersection 66 00:02:18,715 --> 00:02:19,935 of advanced analytics 67 00:02:20,635 --> 00:02:21,375 and decision. 68 00:02:22,314 --> 00:02:24,175 What I've begun to study 69 00:02:24,474 --> 00:02:24,974 is 70 00:02:25,275 --> 00:02:26,814 how people go about 71 00:02:27,729 --> 00:02:30,870 translating data into insights and ultimately 72 00:02:31,969 --> 00:02:33,189 making a decision. 73 00:02:33,650 --> 00:02:35,509 And although data sciences 74 00:02:36,209 --> 00:02:37,430 has certainly progressed, 75 00:02:37,810 --> 00:02:39,810 and I believe it's gonna progress even more 76 00:02:39,810 --> 00:02:42,310 in this AI quantum world, these 77 00:02:42,745 --> 00:02:45,784 waves of technology innovation that are going on 78 00:02:45,784 --> 00:02:46,525 right now, 79 00:02:46,985 --> 00:02:48,365 it still comes down 80 00:02:48,665 --> 00:02:50,444 to the human element 81 00:02:51,305 --> 00:02:51,805 of 82 00:02:52,185 --> 00:02:53,805 making a decision 83 00:02:54,185 --> 00:02:55,004 and executing 84 00:02:55,384 --> 00:02:56,685 up against that, 85 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:58,500 that strategy. 86 00:02:59,599 --> 00:03:02,240 Thank you. When you you've worked with numerous 87 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,139 different startups. 88 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,599 When things go well in a startup in 89 00:03:05,599 --> 00:03:06,419 a new business, 90 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,280 what drives it to go well? What what 91 00:03:09,439 --> 00:03:11,040 when you look at that, what do you 92 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:11,780 think about? 93 00:03:12,925 --> 00:03:15,245 Ultimately, I think it comes down to the 94 00:03:15,245 --> 00:03:15,745 vision 95 00:03:16,284 --> 00:03:17,344 that the organization 96 00:03:17,805 --> 00:03:18,305 has 97 00:03:18,925 --> 00:03:21,724 and then the mission. For me, the vision 98 00:03:21,724 --> 00:03:23,324 is the head and the mission is the 99 00:03:23,324 --> 00:03:23,824 heart. 100 00:03:24,125 --> 00:03:27,025 If if you get those two things right, 101 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,400 you will find that business will accelerate and 102 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,019 accelerates because it attracts 103 00:03:32,479 --> 00:03:34,259 the right people to the business. 104 00:03:34,719 --> 00:03:36,180 And then using 105 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,379 these frameworks 106 00:03:37,759 --> 00:03:39,539 that that I've built over the years, 107 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,259 it makes it a little easier to execute. 108 00:03:43,385 --> 00:03:46,205 Thank you. And any advice for leaders building 109 00:03:46,425 --> 00:03:46,925 businesses 110 00:03:47,305 --> 00:03:49,544 that you would share? Any any few thoughts 111 00:03:49,544 --> 00:03:50,925 for people building businesses? 112 00:03:52,104 --> 00:03:55,645 Yeah. I think number one, it's it's always 113 00:03:55,705 --> 00:03:58,280 about the people. Like, who is on your 114 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:58,780 team? 115 00:03:59,319 --> 00:04:00,620 Are they aligned 116 00:04:01,159 --> 00:04:02,860 to your vision and mission? 117 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,259 And so that human element 118 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:08,439 has been a consistent thing, at least in 119 00:04:08,439 --> 00:04:11,474 my startups that I found. And then the 120 00:04:11,474 --> 00:04:13,954 second thing and and the real advice I 121 00:04:13,954 --> 00:04:15,254 would give to leaders 122 00:04:16,035 --> 00:04:18,454 across any size enterprise these days 123 00:04:18,834 --> 00:04:20,694 is asking better questions. 124 00:04:21,714 --> 00:04:25,235 What I'm finding is the more time that 125 00:04:25,235 --> 00:04:25,735 people 126 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:29,639 spend thinking about the questions before they ask 127 00:04:29,639 --> 00:04:30,139 them 128 00:04:30,599 --> 00:04:33,819 winds up translating into true breakthroughs 129 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,659 both in process, 130 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:36,860 technology, 131 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:38,699 and and human resources. 132 00:04:39,904 --> 00:04:42,084 And so I'm gonna ask you this question, 133 00:04:43,105 --> 00:04:44,865 which is gonna turn the tables on you 134 00:04:44,865 --> 00:04:46,004 for a second, Todd. 135 00:04:46,785 --> 00:04:49,125 If I was gonna ask you one insightful 136 00:04:49,264 --> 00:04:50,324 or good question, 137 00:04:51,105 --> 00:04:53,185 or what would I ask you? What would 138 00:04:53,185 --> 00:04:54,805 bring out what is 139 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,639 interesting to you to talk about to our 140 00:04:57,639 --> 00:05:00,279 audience? What question would you ask you? Then 141 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,220 you're gonna be stuck having to answer it. 142 00:05:04,039 --> 00:05:04,539 Alright. 143 00:05:05,719 --> 00:05:06,459 The question 144 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,779 that I would probably ask myself, 145 00:05:09,479 --> 00:05:11,935 and I and I have a 100,000 146 00:05:11,935 --> 00:05:14,115 times probably at this point in my life, 147 00:05:14,495 --> 00:05:16,274 is what are you missing? 148 00:05:16,894 --> 00:05:19,294 What are your blind spots? What do you 149 00:05:19,294 --> 00:05:20,834 think you need to understand 150 00:05:21,214 --> 00:05:22,754 before you make that decision? 151 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,800 Todd, you and I have both been in 152 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,479 business for a few decades. I hate to 153 00:05:27,479 --> 00:05:29,000 admit that, but we've all been at it 154 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,060 for a long time. 155 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:33,339 And and one of the great secrets is 156 00:05:33,479 --> 00:05:35,879 that we're always evolving and always trying to 157 00:05:35,879 --> 00:05:36,860 figure it out. 158 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,139 How do you assess 159 00:05:38,595 --> 00:05:39,895 what you are missing 160 00:05:40,275 --> 00:05:40,775 and 161 00:05:41,154 --> 00:05:43,714 and how you're allocating time and priorities? How 162 00:05:43,714 --> 00:05:44,995 do how do you assess that and think 163 00:05:44,995 --> 00:05:45,735 about that? 164 00:05:46,835 --> 00:05:48,055 In the book, Omnimix, 165 00:05:48,995 --> 00:05:49,555 is really, 166 00:05:50,035 --> 00:05:50,935 from a storytelling 167 00:05:51,235 --> 00:05:52,775 perspective of an organization 168 00:05:53,729 --> 00:05:54,229 going 169 00:05:54,689 --> 00:05:55,829 through exactly that. 170 00:05:56,129 --> 00:05:58,789 And what what I come back to 171 00:05:59,089 --> 00:05:59,589 is, 172 00:06:00,209 --> 00:06:02,069 do we have the right use cases 173 00:06:02,610 --> 00:06:03,110 identified 174 00:06:03,490 --> 00:06:06,050 that we wanna work on, and what are 175 00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:07,029 those priorities? 176 00:06:07,810 --> 00:06:10,115 I'm also a huge fan, whether 177 00:06:10,574 --> 00:06:11,634 it's at HCA, 178 00:06:12,975 --> 00:06:14,595 or my own start up, 179 00:06:15,134 --> 00:06:15,634 is, 180 00:06:16,495 --> 00:06:18,435 creating a pilot opportunity 181 00:06:19,375 --> 00:06:21,634 so that we can test and iterate. 182 00:06:22,014 --> 00:06:24,754 And that's where I find there's some magic 183 00:06:25,129 --> 00:06:27,709 As you go through that iteration process 184 00:06:28,250 --> 00:06:29,949 and begin to discover 185 00:06:30,649 --> 00:06:33,149 those elements that you had in that original 186 00:06:33,209 --> 00:06:33,709 question, 187 00:06:34,329 --> 00:06:35,229 you can then 188 00:06:35,529 --> 00:06:38,269 take it through the rest of the strategy 189 00:06:38,490 --> 00:06:38,990 execution 190 00:06:40,175 --> 00:06:40,675 components 191 00:06:41,615 --> 00:06:43,555 and, come out with a better answer. 192 00:06:44,495 --> 00:06:46,254 Thank you. And and and how do you 193 00:06:46,254 --> 00:06:46,995 go about 194 00:06:47,775 --> 00:06:50,415 there's this great concept from James Collins in 195 00:06:50,415 --> 00:06:53,395 Good to Great about firing bullets, not cannons, 196 00:06:53,694 --> 00:06:56,009 which really goes to the concept of testing 197 00:06:56,009 --> 00:06:58,410 things but not putting so much at risk 198 00:06:58,410 --> 00:06:59,850 that if the test doesn't go how you 199 00:06:59,850 --> 00:07:01,389 want it to, you're not broke. 200 00:07:01,769 --> 00:07:04,250 How do you think about pilots and getting 201 00:07:04,250 --> 00:07:04,990 after it, 202 00:07:05,610 --> 00:07:06,110 without, 203 00:07:06,410 --> 00:07:08,730 you know, without burning the boats, without putting 204 00:07:08,730 --> 00:07:10,110 yourself in dire straits? 205 00:07:11,055 --> 00:07:13,055 Yeah. And and there's two things that I 206 00:07:13,055 --> 00:07:16,334 think about in in that regard. One, in 207 00:07:16,334 --> 00:07:18,435 the Barrow's book on strategy, 208 00:07:20,014 --> 00:07:22,574 I spend probably more time on the front 209 00:07:22,574 --> 00:07:24,834 end doing strategic planning. 210 00:07:25,214 --> 00:07:27,689 I think that's part of my DNA that 211 00:07:27,689 --> 00:07:29,290 I came up with in the in the 212 00:07:29,290 --> 00:07:30,509 health planning world, 213 00:07:31,129 --> 00:07:33,389 before I got into health data and analytics. 214 00:07:34,009 --> 00:07:34,830 And so 215 00:07:35,290 --> 00:07:36,270 being able 216 00:07:37,210 --> 00:07:39,069 to take that, assess, decide, 217 00:07:39,529 --> 00:07:40,029 execute 218 00:07:40,410 --> 00:07:40,910 component 219 00:07:41,855 --> 00:07:42,915 then allows 220 00:07:43,774 --> 00:07:45,154 for the individual 221 00:07:45,855 --> 00:07:48,675 and also a huge fan of Colin, the 222 00:07:49,295 --> 00:07:50,355 pilot projects 223 00:07:50,814 --> 00:07:54,754 allow you to take five, six different pilots 224 00:07:55,410 --> 00:07:56,790 without huge investment 225 00:07:57,569 --> 00:08:00,689 and to begin to test and iterate on 226 00:08:00,689 --> 00:08:03,090 those so that you have what I would 227 00:08:03,090 --> 00:08:05,029 call a minimum viable product, 228 00:08:05,569 --> 00:08:07,350 minimal viable investment 229 00:08:08,210 --> 00:08:10,230 in the execution of those ideas. 230 00:08:10,915 --> 00:08:13,634 And then as those gain traction both with 231 00:08:13,634 --> 00:08:15,175 your team and your customers, 232 00:08:15,875 --> 00:08:18,115 then you can double down and and do 233 00:08:18,115 --> 00:08:19,814 a larger investment around it. 234 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:22,355 Thank you. No one and and I and 235 00:08:22,355 --> 00:08:23,415 I love that. 236 00:08:23,750 --> 00:08:26,389 How do you decide whether to double down 237 00:08:26,389 --> 00:08:28,710 on something or not? And and what's more 238 00:08:28,710 --> 00:08:30,870 valuable, the time and energy you're putting in 239 00:08:30,870 --> 00:08:32,389 or the money you're putting in or a 240 00:08:32,389 --> 00:08:33,290 mix of both? 241 00:08:34,309 --> 00:08:36,889 In my view, it's always time and energy. 242 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:38,889 Money is sort of, 243 00:08:39,485 --> 00:08:41,884 money will always find the best ideas and 244 00:08:41,884 --> 00:08:43,424 execution. And so 245 00:08:43,804 --> 00:08:45,184 I focus on, 246 00:08:45,644 --> 00:08:48,625 the human side and the the energy side, 247 00:08:49,404 --> 00:08:51,184 more than anything else. 248 00:08:52,039 --> 00:08:52,539 The 249 00:08:53,079 --> 00:08:55,820 I think there's tipping points, and it really 250 00:08:55,879 --> 00:08:57,339 comes to the 251 00:08:57,959 --> 00:08:59,579 when there's a defined 252 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:01,659 customer value proposition, 253 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,659 if you are finding customers easily 254 00:09:06,294 --> 00:09:08,455 that wanna say yes to what you're trying 255 00:09:08,455 --> 00:09:09,035 to do, 256 00:09:09,575 --> 00:09:12,294 that's the point where it triggers in my 257 00:09:12,294 --> 00:09:15,174 brain that that we need to double down 258 00:09:15,174 --> 00:09:17,835 both time, energy, as well as money, 259 00:09:18,215 --> 00:09:21,575 and and start to scale this business venture 260 00:09:21,575 --> 00:09:22,075 up. 261 00:09:22,829 --> 00:09:25,549 Thank you. And and any advice and thoughts 262 00:09:25,549 --> 00:09:27,649 that you would give to emerging leaders, emerging 263 00:09:27,709 --> 00:09:30,669 entrepreneurs, or just emerging careerist? All all are 264 00:09:30,669 --> 00:09:31,169 important. 265 00:09:32,350 --> 00:09:35,809 Yeah. So emerging careerist is, is an interesting 266 00:09:35,894 --> 00:09:37,894 topic. I I probably get three to five 267 00:09:37,894 --> 00:09:40,075 people a week that reach out to me 268 00:09:40,535 --> 00:09:43,514 and are in some various form of career 269 00:09:43,575 --> 00:09:44,075 transition. 270 00:09:45,254 --> 00:09:47,274 The thing that is available 271 00:09:47,735 --> 00:09:49,995 to us today that wasn't available 272 00:09:50,809 --> 00:09:51,709 two years ago 273 00:09:52,649 --> 00:09:54,190 are all of these advanced, 274 00:09:55,370 --> 00:09:56,350 AI opportunities. 275 00:09:57,049 --> 00:09:58,350 And so today, 276 00:09:58,730 --> 00:09:59,449 I can 277 00:09:59,929 --> 00:10:02,269 if I know how to correctly 278 00:10:02,570 --> 00:10:03,070 prompt, 279 00:10:04,144 --> 00:10:04,644 AI, 280 00:10:05,024 --> 00:10:06,564 I can have it actually 281 00:10:07,424 --> 00:10:08,564 filter for me 282 00:10:08,944 --> 00:10:11,764 what types of things that I'm passionate about. 283 00:10:12,384 --> 00:10:15,365 Of those passions, which ones have the greatest 284 00:10:15,504 --> 00:10:16,004 opportunity, 285 00:10:16,944 --> 00:10:18,884 to provide economic benefit, 286 00:10:19,470 --> 00:10:20,209 to myself 287 00:10:20,830 --> 00:10:23,490 and also where I can find that happiness 288 00:10:23,629 --> 00:10:24,129 factor. 289 00:10:24,589 --> 00:10:26,350 The the Japanese call it, 290 00:10:26,909 --> 00:10:27,409 ikiai, 291 00:10:27,950 --> 00:10:30,509 and I am a huge component or a 292 00:10:30,509 --> 00:10:31,330 huge fan. 293 00:10:31,875 --> 00:10:34,455 That particular model as it relates to, 294 00:10:35,154 --> 00:10:36,054 career journeys. 295 00:10:36,514 --> 00:10:38,355 But it's the same thing for a business 296 00:10:38,355 --> 00:10:38,855 journey. 297 00:10:39,154 --> 00:10:41,014 If you can find that intersection 298 00:10:42,195 --> 00:10:43,815 where you can make customers 299 00:10:44,195 --> 00:10:45,415 extremely happy 300 00:10:46,250 --> 00:10:50,029 and employees are extremely happily delivering that service. 301 00:10:50,169 --> 00:10:52,089 I mean, that's that's that's what it's all 302 00:10:52,089 --> 00:10:52,589 about. 303 00:10:53,850 --> 00:10:56,089 And I absolutely love that. And, Todd, are 304 00:10:56,089 --> 00:10:59,149 you doing separate work on boards today, speaking, 305 00:10:59,370 --> 00:10:59,870 investing? 306 00:11:00,554 --> 00:11:02,075 How do you sort of fill your time 307 00:11:02,075 --> 00:11:03,674 now that you're not involved in your start 308 00:11:03,674 --> 00:11:04,174 ups? 309 00:11:05,034 --> 00:11:06,634 That is a a great, 310 00:11:07,195 --> 00:11:09,774 question. So the answer is yes, 311 00:11:10,554 --> 00:11:11,754 all across the board. 312 00:11:12,235 --> 00:11:13,215 Doing several 313 00:11:13,779 --> 00:11:17,159 private investments here in the Nashville area. 314 00:11:18,100 --> 00:11:20,659 Spend a fair amount of time writing as 315 00:11:20,659 --> 00:11:22,339 you as you might imagine. And like I 316 00:11:22,339 --> 00:11:23,480 said, I I 317 00:11:23,940 --> 00:11:26,179 literally the day I left work, I had 318 00:11:26,179 --> 00:11:28,154 these four books that I just had to 319 00:11:28,154 --> 00:11:30,554 get out of my head. And so spend 320 00:11:30,554 --> 00:11:31,855 a large amount of time, 321 00:11:32,315 --> 00:11:33,054 doing that, 322 00:11:33,595 --> 00:11:34,654 serving on boards, 323 00:11:35,195 --> 00:11:38,334 doing a lot of speaking about advanced analytics 324 00:11:38,394 --> 00:11:41,214 and quantum here lately and trying to 325 00:11:41,629 --> 00:11:43,950 think that future vision of what that's gonna 326 00:11:43,950 --> 00:11:46,610 look like as it starts to get introduced 327 00:11:46,669 --> 00:11:47,409 to businesses. 328 00:11:48,029 --> 00:11:50,509 And then, as you started off on your 329 00:11:50,509 --> 00:11:53,230 podcast, I I I am kinda working pretty 330 00:11:53,230 --> 00:11:54,830 hard on my golf game. I, 331 00:11:56,284 --> 00:11:58,544 I took thirty days and played every day, 332 00:11:58,924 --> 00:12:00,784 for thirty days when I first retired, 333 00:12:01,485 --> 00:12:02,945 and I am amazed 334 00:12:03,404 --> 00:12:05,024 at how much progress, 335 00:12:05,565 --> 00:12:07,985 a broken down old athlete like myself, 336 00:12:09,139 --> 00:12:11,399 can make whenever you truly get focused. 337 00:12:11,779 --> 00:12:15,220 It's probably not surprising to business leaders and 338 00:12:15,220 --> 00:12:18,179 entrepreneurs that have to stay focused on their 339 00:12:18,179 --> 00:12:20,259 business every day, but the same thing applies 340 00:12:20,259 --> 00:12:22,920 for these everyday skills using technology 341 00:12:23,894 --> 00:12:25,274 and human perseverance. 342 00:12:26,535 --> 00:12:29,115 Almost anything is within reach. 343 00:12:30,375 --> 00:12:31,495 And and and let me ask you a 344 00:12:31,495 --> 00:12:32,634 question about that. 345 00:12:33,175 --> 00:12:35,415 I've gone through different periods of time where 346 00:12:35,415 --> 00:12:37,490 I play every day, but I'm not working 347 00:12:37,490 --> 00:12:38,230 on something. 348 00:12:38,690 --> 00:12:41,009 And sometimes my handicap goes in the wrong 349 00:12:41,009 --> 00:12:41,509 directions. 350 00:12:42,210 --> 00:12:44,289 Other times, I'm able to really pick things 351 00:12:44,289 --> 00:12:45,830 up and sort of get better. 352 00:12:46,450 --> 00:12:49,169 Any tricks to spending those thirty days, did 353 00:12:49,169 --> 00:12:50,549 you work it all on 354 00:12:50,985 --> 00:12:51,485 putting, 355 00:12:51,865 --> 00:12:54,105 driving, irons, wedges, or just really go play 356 00:12:54,105 --> 00:12:55,625 for thirty days? How do you how do 357 00:12:55,625 --> 00:12:56,605 you think about that? 358 00:12:57,784 --> 00:13:00,184 In the thirty days, I I literally just 359 00:13:00,184 --> 00:13:02,504 dove in deep and tried to work on 360 00:13:02,504 --> 00:13:03,004 everything. 361 00:13:03,690 --> 00:13:05,850 What helped probably the most is, 362 00:13:06,410 --> 00:13:08,029 Nancy Q runs 363 00:13:08,410 --> 00:13:09,470 a golf school, 364 00:13:09,850 --> 00:13:12,649 and I took four lessons. The one that 365 00:13:12,649 --> 00:13:14,490 helped me the most, believe it or not, 366 00:13:14,490 --> 00:13:16,029 was the on course lesson. 367 00:13:16,504 --> 00:13:19,464 So as you think about business coaches and 368 00:13:19,464 --> 00:13:21,705 whatnot, if they could come spend time with 369 00:13:21,705 --> 00:13:23,705 you during the day and want to, like 370 00:13:23,705 --> 00:13:26,264 this golf coach did for me, that did 371 00:13:26,264 --> 00:13:27,964 more to improve my game. 372 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,220 When I got over the initial 373 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,259 sort of improvements in my game, 374 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:35,500 then I found the best, 375 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,860 way to lower my handicap was actually chipping. 376 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,019 Everything inside of 50 yards to the green 377 00:13:43,575 --> 00:13:45,434 is is making a world of difference. 378 00:13:46,535 --> 00:13:49,495 I I absolutely love it. Just fantastic. I 379 00:13:49,495 --> 00:13:51,335 I need work on my game. My index 380 00:13:51,335 --> 00:13:52,875 is going in the wrong direction 381 00:13:53,254 --> 00:13:55,754 the the last several times I've played. 382 00:13:56,370 --> 00:13:58,370 Finally starting to feel like I'm coming around, 383 00:13:58,370 --> 00:13:59,350 but a challenge. 384 00:13:59,730 --> 00:14:01,570 Todd, what a great pleasure to visit with 385 00:14:01,570 --> 00:14:05,889 you. Todd Feathering, fantastic leader, fantastic businessperson, and 386 00:14:05,889 --> 00:14:08,210 just a wonderful person. Todd, thank you for 387 00:14:08,210 --> 00:14:09,809 joining us on the special edition of the 388 00:14:09,809 --> 00:14:12,745 Becker's Healthcare, Becker private equity business podcast. Thank 389 00:14:12,745 --> 00:14:14,904 you for taking the time. Thank you. I 390 00:14:14,904 --> 00:14:17,884 really enjoyed our conversation today and look forward 391 00:14:18,345 --> 00:14:20,504 to reading your book here this spring. God 392 00:14:20,504 --> 00:14:22,125 bless you. Thank you so much.