1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,960 Every year, Becker's annual meeting brings healthcare leaders 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,440 together to unpack the most pressing issues facing 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:08,099 the industry. 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,300 And every year, those conversations shift in profound 5 00:00:11,359 --> 00:00:12,464 and unexpected ways. 6 00:00:13,105 --> 00:00:15,345 This April, more than 3,500 7 00:00:15,345 --> 00:00:18,464 healthcare executives will return to Chicago for Becker's 8 00:00:18,464 --> 00:00:19,844 sixteenth Annual Meeting. 9 00:00:20,225 --> 00:00:23,105 Seven ninety five elite speakers will offer new 10 00:00:23,105 --> 00:00:26,100 lessons, new case studies, and predictions about what 11 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:26,600 comes 12 00:00:27,060 --> 00:00:29,480 next. Join us April 13 through the sixteenth. 13 00:00:29,940 --> 00:00:34,260 For the agenda and event details, visit beckershospitalreview.com 14 00:00:34,260 --> 00:00:36,179 and click on the events tab in the 15 00:00:36,179 --> 00:00:36,920 upper right. 16 00:00:38,304 --> 00:00:41,184 Welcome to the Becker's pharmacy leadership podcast. I'm 17 00:00:41,184 --> 00:00:44,004 Ella Jeffries, pharmacy reporter with Becker's healthcare. 18 00:00:44,304 --> 00:00:46,864 Today, I'm joined by Joseph Pinto, vice president 19 00:00:46,864 --> 00:00:49,684 of pharmacy operations at Mount Sinai Health System. 20 00:00:50,149 --> 00:00:51,909 In this episode, we'll be talking about key 21 00:00:51,909 --> 00:00:54,789 pharmacy initiatives from the past year, the priorities 22 00:00:54,789 --> 00:00:56,950 and headwinds leaders are navigating as they plan 23 00:00:56,950 --> 00:00:58,170 for 2026, 24 00:00:58,229 --> 00:01:01,210 and where opportunities for organizational growth are emerging. 25 00:01:01,590 --> 00:01:03,270 Joseph, thank you so much for joining me 26 00:01:03,270 --> 00:01:05,244 today. To start us off, can you please 27 00:01:05,244 --> 00:01:07,484 introduce yourself and share a bit more about 28 00:01:07,484 --> 00:01:09,984 your role at Mount Sinai Pharmacy Organization? 29 00:01:10,685 --> 00:01:13,724 Sure. Yeah. Thank you, Ella. So, yes, as 30 00:01:13,724 --> 00:01:15,644 Ella mentioned, my name is Joe Pinto. I'm 31 00:01:15,644 --> 00:01:17,905 the, vice president of pharmacy operations, 32 00:01:18,765 --> 00:01:20,579 here at the Mount Sinai Health System in 33 00:01:20,579 --> 00:01:21,640 in New York City. 34 00:01:22,340 --> 00:01:24,760 So Mount Sinai is a large academic 35 00:01:25,459 --> 00:01:28,200 integrated health system with, eight hospitals, 36 00:01:29,299 --> 00:01:31,480 with approximately a 150,000 37 00:01:31,780 --> 00:01:32,920 inpatient discharges 38 00:01:33,765 --> 00:01:37,204 and more than 400 outpatient practice locations with 39 00:01:37,204 --> 00:01:39,145 approximately 5,700,000 40 00:01:39,204 --> 00:01:40,185 outpatient visits. 41 00:01:41,045 --> 00:01:42,505 We do have a growing 42 00:01:42,885 --> 00:01:45,305 ambulatory and specialty pharmacy footprint 43 00:01:46,099 --> 00:01:47,479 and one of the nation's, 44 00:01:48,019 --> 00:01:49,959 most active research enterprises. 45 00:01:50,979 --> 00:01:54,119 My my role here is really enterprise focused, 46 00:01:54,340 --> 00:01:57,479 responsible for overseeing pharmacy operations, automation, 47 00:01:57,780 --> 00:01:58,280 informatics, 48 00:01:59,424 --> 00:02:00,405 workforce strategy 49 00:02:01,265 --> 00:02:03,744 and medication across the system. And, you know, 50 00:02:03,744 --> 00:02:06,484 what's exciting right now is that pharmacy sits 51 00:02:06,864 --> 00:02:07,765 at the intersection 52 00:02:08,305 --> 00:02:09,925 of clinical care, 53 00:02:10,784 --> 00:02:11,844 digital innovation 54 00:02:12,625 --> 00:02:14,004 and financial stewardship. 55 00:02:14,460 --> 00:02:15,439 And we're increasingly 56 00:02:16,300 --> 00:02:16,800 expected, 57 00:02:18,219 --> 00:02:19,199 to lead across, 58 00:02:19,580 --> 00:02:20,319 all three. 59 00:02:20,699 --> 00:02:22,780 Definitely. Thank you so much for sharing that 60 00:02:22,780 --> 00:02:23,280 context. 61 00:02:23,900 --> 00:02:26,395 Now looking back over the past year, what 62 00:02:26,395 --> 00:02:28,634 was the most important initiative that you led? 63 00:02:28,634 --> 00:02:30,474 What did you focus on, and what results 64 00:02:30,474 --> 00:02:31,294 did you see? 65 00:02:31,995 --> 00:02:33,375 Sure. Yeah. So 66 00:02:33,754 --> 00:02:36,094 I'd say one of the most important initiatives, 67 00:02:37,194 --> 00:02:39,275 I led this past year was a system 68 00:02:39,275 --> 00:02:39,775 wide 69 00:02:40,949 --> 00:02:41,449 modernization 70 00:02:41,990 --> 00:02:42,490 of, 71 00:02:43,349 --> 00:02:45,930 our pharmacy operating model. So 72 00:02:46,629 --> 00:02:48,810 that entailed combining supply chain, 73 00:02:49,430 --> 00:02:50,729 transformation, automation, 74 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:52,250 and 75 00:02:52,790 --> 00:02:53,689 digital workflow, 76 00:02:54,310 --> 00:02:54,810 redesign. 77 00:02:55,594 --> 00:02:57,995 So that the probably the major part of 78 00:02:57,995 --> 00:02:58,814 that was, 79 00:02:59,275 --> 00:03:00,655 our wholesaler transition. 80 00:03:01,115 --> 00:03:03,935 So we expand and expanded use of automation 81 00:03:04,074 --> 00:03:05,455 such as IV robotics 82 00:03:06,235 --> 00:03:07,615 and dispensing technology, 83 00:03:08,650 --> 00:03:11,449 and tighter integration with EPIC to reduce manual 84 00:03:11,449 --> 00:03:12,830 work and variability. 85 00:03:13,849 --> 00:03:15,449 So and, you know, when we when I 86 00:03:15,449 --> 00:03:16,990 look at at those initiatives, 87 00:03:17,770 --> 00:03:19,629 this past year, the goal 88 00:03:20,330 --> 00:03:23,275 wasn't just, you know, in in savings. Right? 89 00:03:23,275 --> 00:03:23,935 It was 90 00:03:24,555 --> 00:03:25,055 reliability. 91 00:03:26,155 --> 00:03:28,575 You know, we focused on improving resiliency, 92 00:03:29,355 --> 00:03:30,415 medication availability, 93 00:03:30,875 --> 00:03:31,375 and 94 00:03:32,635 --> 00:03:33,135 predictability 95 00:03:33,435 --> 00:03:35,915 for our frontline teams. So I I think 96 00:03:35,915 --> 00:03:37,909 that's, you know, important that we 97 00:03:38,449 --> 00:03:41,110 were able to support our our frontline teams, 98 00:03:41,650 --> 00:03:43,830 in making sure that we are anchored 99 00:03:44,289 --> 00:03:46,370 in everything I just went through. And the 100 00:03:46,370 --> 00:03:49,250 results were measurable. Right? We experienced significant cost 101 00:03:49,250 --> 00:03:50,550 savings with our transition. 102 00:03:50,915 --> 00:03:52,615 We had improved turnaround times, 103 00:03:53,075 --> 00:03:54,694 new operational disruptions, 104 00:03:55,474 --> 00:03:58,375 and probably a more scalable pharmacy platform 105 00:03:59,155 --> 00:04:01,715 that really positions us for future growth in 106 00:04:01,715 --> 00:04:03,655 specialty and advanced therapies. 107 00:04:04,435 --> 00:04:06,135 And I think those were the major 108 00:04:06,689 --> 00:04:07,889 initiatives that that we, 109 00:04:08,530 --> 00:04:10,389 encountered last year that I was leading. 110 00:04:11,009 --> 00:04:12,769 Great. Thank you for sharing, and it's great 111 00:04:12,769 --> 00:04:14,689 to hear those positive results you guys are 112 00:04:14,689 --> 00:04:15,430 seeing already. 113 00:04:15,889 --> 00:04:17,509 I'm curious. When you were undergoing 114 00:04:17,889 --> 00:04:20,689 that, you know, major transition, what lessons did 115 00:04:20,689 --> 00:04:22,149 you take away from that experience? 116 00:04:24,185 --> 00:04:25,564 I I think I'd invest 117 00:04:26,104 --> 00:04:28,044 even earlier in the change management 118 00:04:28,345 --> 00:04:30,125 and and data transparency. 119 00:04:30,985 --> 00:04:32,685 I think people will 120 00:04:33,064 --> 00:04:36,104 adopt faster when they can see the why 121 00:04:36,104 --> 00:04:37,164 in real time. 122 00:04:37,490 --> 00:04:40,790 Just for example, our our wholesale transition, 123 00:04:41,490 --> 00:04:43,970 I think we probably did in in record 124 00:04:43,970 --> 00:04:44,370 time. 125 00:04:45,009 --> 00:04:46,930 You know, we had an RFP that went 126 00:04:46,930 --> 00:04:47,430 out. 127 00:04:47,970 --> 00:04:49,110 We made our decision 128 00:04:49,814 --> 00:04:50,314 sometime 129 00:04:50,615 --> 00:04:53,435 in mid February to to make the change, 130 00:04:53,975 --> 00:04:56,375 and we were alive within three months of 131 00:04:56,375 --> 00:04:57,675 that of that decision. 132 00:04:58,615 --> 00:05:00,475 A change like that generally will take 133 00:05:00,855 --> 00:05:03,654 six to nine months given, the complexity of 134 00:05:03,654 --> 00:05:04,314 our system 135 00:05:05,089 --> 00:05:07,970 and and the dollar volumes that really, you 136 00:05:07,970 --> 00:05:10,629 know, we put through our our wholesaler. So 137 00:05:11,009 --> 00:05:12,069 I think, you know, 138 00:05:12,370 --> 00:05:14,930 like I like I mentioned earlier, just invest 139 00:05:14,930 --> 00:05:16,930 in a little early in that change management 140 00:05:16,930 --> 00:05:17,430 process. 141 00:05:18,595 --> 00:05:20,834 Definitely. That's a great lesson I think other 142 00:05:20,834 --> 00:05:22,935 leaders will would like to hear. 143 00:05:23,475 --> 00:05:25,794 Now looking ahead, what are the big priorities 144 00:05:25,794 --> 00:05:27,475 and headwinds that you're focused on as you 145 00:05:27,475 --> 00:05:29,014 plan for 2026? 146 00:05:30,449 --> 00:05:31,430 It's a good question. 147 00:05:31,889 --> 00:05:34,150 And, you know, there's there's always 148 00:05:34,689 --> 00:05:38,129 competing priorities. Right? So I think looking ahead 149 00:05:38,129 --> 00:05:39,110 in '26, 150 00:05:39,569 --> 00:05:42,610 priorities that I'm looking at fall into really 151 00:05:42,610 --> 00:05:43,430 three buckets, 152 00:05:44,384 --> 00:05:44,884 digital 153 00:05:45,185 --> 00:05:48,805 enablement, right, specialty you know, especially pharmacy growth, 154 00:05:49,185 --> 00:05:49,685 and 155 00:05:50,305 --> 00:05:52,164 readiness for advanced therapies. 156 00:05:53,425 --> 00:05:54,884 On the digital side, 157 00:05:55,425 --> 00:05:57,584 I said we're I think we're we're focused 158 00:05:57,584 --> 00:05:58,884 on leveraging AI 159 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,740 and advanced analytics, 160 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,920 as I think most health systems are, right, 161 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,060 as AI is growing. 162 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,060 And that's to to support 163 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,220 our order verification, 164 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:10,980 inventory optimization, 165 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:14,020 and, you know, clinical decision making. 166 00:06:14,974 --> 00:06:17,555 And and this opportunity is not replacing clinicians. 167 00:06:17,615 --> 00:06:19,154 Right? But removing 168 00:06:20,254 --> 00:06:22,894 the low value cognitive work so that they 169 00:06:22,894 --> 00:06:25,134 can focus on our patients. That that's the 170 00:06:25,134 --> 00:06:27,055 goal of what we're looking to do when 171 00:06:27,055 --> 00:06:28,354 when we look to implement 172 00:06:29,290 --> 00:06:32,330 technologies and and and AI. So that that's 173 00:06:32,330 --> 00:06:34,110 really the goal of that piece. I think 174 00:06:34,330 --> 00:06:35,470 specialty pharmacy 175 00:06:36,009 --> 00:06:38,569 and infusion continue to be major growth areas 176 00:06:38,569 --> 00:06:40,750 for us, both clinically and financially, 177 00:06:41,449 --> 00:06:42,350 and that requires 178 00:06:43,884 --> 00:06:45,985 tighter integration between pharmacy, 179 00:06:46,285 --> 00:06:49,404 you know, providers, payers, and our revenue cycle 180 00:06:49,404 --> 00:06:51,665 team. So, you know, it's a big coordination 181 00:06:51,964 --> 00:06:53,024 between the different 182 00:06:53,884 --> 00:06:55,665 departments and and disciplines 183 00:06:56,204 --> 00:06:57,504 within our health system. 184 00:06:58,949 --> 00:06:59,850 And then there's 185 00:07:00,389 --> 00:07:02,230 a very common topic, you know, when when 186 00:07:02,230 --> 00:07:04,550 you when I speak with, you know, colleagues 187 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:05,910 from around the country and, you know, and 188 00:07:05,910 --> 00:07:07,750 then there's this cell and gene therapy. Right? 189 00:07:07,750 --> 00:07:09,610 That's these therapies are 190 00:07:10,345 --> 00:07:10,845 transformational 191 00:07:11,544 --> 00:07:12,925 in treating patients, 192 00:07:13,384 --> 00:07:14,285 but operationally, 193 00:07:15,064 --> 00:07:16,365 they're very comp complex. 194 00:07:16,904 --> 00:07:19,084 So I I think, you know, we need 195 00:07:19,704 --> 00:07:20,204 infrastructure 196 00:07:20,745 --> 00:07:21,245 that 197 00:07:22,024 --> 00:07:26,100 includes clinical, financial, digital, right, to to safely 198 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,860 and sustainably support 199 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:30,720 support these these, you know, these the, 200 00:07:31,439 --> 00:07:32,819 these advanced gene therapies. 201 00:07:33,919 --> 00:07:35,279 So and then, you know, when I when 202 00:07:35,279 --> 00:07:36,419 I think about headwind, 203 00:07:37,535 --> 00:07:39,395 that's the pace. Right? So technology 204 00:07:39,855 --> 00:07:41,475 and therapeutics are 205 00:07:42,095 --> 00:07:45,615 are moving faster than traditional operating models. Right? 206 00:07:45,615 --> 00:07:48,415 So where we think and how pharmacy scales 207 00:07:48,415 --> 00:07:50,975 responsibly, that's that's the major headwind for us. 208 00:07:50,975 --> 00:07:53,539 Like, the these technologies and therapeutics 209 00:07:54,319 --> 00:07:55,860 are are coming at us 210 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,500 fast and furious. So I think 211 00:07:58,959 --> 00:08:00,720 we need to we need to figure out 212 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,039 how we scale that responsibly in the pharmacy 213 00:08:03,039 --> 00:08:03,539 department. 214 00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:05,139 Definitely. 215 00:08:05,839 --> 00:08:07,779 Now along with those priorities 216 00:08:08,314 --> 00:08:10,875 and headwinds do come some tough decisions. What's 217 00:08:10,875 --> 00:08:12,555 the hardest thing that you're gonna have to 218 00:08:12,555 --> 00:08:14,474 tackle in the coming year as a pharmacy 219 00:08:14,474 --> 00:08:14,974 leader? 220 00:08:15,995 --> 00:08:16,735 So many. 221 00:08:17,914 --> 00:08:20,235 But so I I think as leaders, we 222 00:08:20,235 --> 00:08:21,134 have to be 223 00:08:21,660 --> 00:08:22,160 disciplined 224 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:24,000 about sequencing. Right? 225 00:08:24,379 --> 00:08:24,879 So 226 00:08:25,180 --> 00:08:26,960 for for me, it's strengthening 227 00:08:27,740 --> 00:08:30,160 our core inpatient operations first, 228 00:08:31,100 --> 00:08:32,799 including medication safety, 229 00:08:33,420 --> 00:08:34,639 our workforce stability, 230 00:08:35,115 --> 00:08:37,134 As I mentioned earlier, digital infrastructure, 231 00:08:38,394 --> 00:08:40,014 so, you know, growth elsewhere 232 00:08:40,794 --> 00:08:41,534 is sustainable, 233 00:08:41,914 --> 00:08:44,315 right, rather than being reactive. I I think 234 00:08:44,315 --> 00:08:46,154 we need to build that core first, that 235 00:08:46,154 --> 00:08:47,455 that strong foundation. 236 00:08:47,995 --> 00:08:50,759 And then, you know, for inpatient pharmacy in 237 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:51,980 particular, that means, 238 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,120 as I mentioned, you know, and that you'll 239 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,559 you'll hear me say this probably a few 240 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,800 times if you haven't already is using AI 241 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,259 and automation as 242 00:08:59,639 --> 00:09:01,340 as force, multipliers, 243 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,700 reducing the cognitive and operational burden, 244 00:09:05,054 --> 00:09:08,894 hardwiring safety, and freeing pharmacists and technicians to 245 00:09:08,894 --> 00:09:09,794 focus on, 246 00:09:10,975 --> 00:09:13,634 clinical decision making and direct patient care. 247 00:09:14,254 --> 00:09:16,195 And all of this, right, is happening 248 00:09:16,815 --> 00:09:19,315 in an environment of real financial uncertainty, 249 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:22,440 especially with the pending changes to the three 250 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,980 forty b rebate program 251 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,159 and the downstream effects of the Inflation Reduction 252 00:09:27,159 --> 00:09:27,659 Act. 253 00:09:28,279 --> 00:09:30,059 So so those shifts are changing 254 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:31,419 how and when 255 00:09:31,959 --> 00:09:34,059 value flows back to the health system. 256 00:09:34,584 --> 00:09:36,584 And so it's not just impact in especially 257 00:09:36,584 --> 00:09:38,924 pharmacy margin, but also how we fund 258 00:09:39,464 --> 00:09:41,964 all their services, technology investments, 259 00:09:42,584 --> 00:09:45,404 and and our and our staffing models. So 260 00:09:45,544 --> 00:09:47,245 it it it has a very 261 00:09:47,625 --> 00:09:50,430 big, you know, big impact, influential impact on 262 00:09:50,430 --> 00:09:53,230 how we do do business. So the challenge 263 00:09:53,230 --> 00:09:53,730 becomes 264 00:09:54,910 --> 00:09:56,769 balancing financial stewardship, 265 00:09:57,389 --> 00:09:57,889 regulatory 266 00:09:58,430 --> 00:09:58,930 compliance, 267 00:09:59,816 --> 00:10:01,649 and and patient access 268 00:10:02,625 --> 00:10:05,764 across the entire continuum. And often this happens, 269 00:10:06,225 --> 00:10:07,684 without incomplete information, 270 00:10:08,144 --> 00:10:10,485 alright, and evolving rules. So 271 00:10:10,785 --> 00:10:13,445 upcoming years is going to be interesting. 272 00:10:13,904 --> 00:10:16,440 I think that's why we're we're being very 273 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:16,940 intentional, 274 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,620 invested in better 275 00:10:19,399 --> 00:10:20,459 data and analytics, 276 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,820 aligning inpatient and outpatient strategies, 277 00:10:25,159 --> 00:10:28,839 working closely with finance, compliance, nursing, and and 278 00:10:28,839 --> 00:10:29,740 medical leadership. 279 00:10:30,725 --> 00:10:32,725 And and you know what? Sometimes that means 280 00:10:32,725 --> 00:10:35,225 saying not yet instead of no. Right? So 281 00:10:35,365 --> 00:10:36,504 making sure technology 282 00:10:36,964 --> 00:10:37,464 adoption, 283 00:10:38,804 --> 00:10:39,625 AI enablement, 284 00:10:40,324 --> 00:10:42,985 and program and program growth are 285 00:10:43,950 --> 00:10:44,450 purposeful, 286 00:10:44,910 --> 00:10:46,690 they're aligned, they're resilient, 287 00:10:47,309 --> 00:10:49,009 rather than just being driven 288 00:10:49,950 --> 00:10:50,610 by urgency 289 00:10:50,990 --> 00:10:52,929 or reactive at at that time. 290 00:10:53,629 --> 00:10:56,269 For sure. And speaking of resiliency, how are 291 00:10:56,269 --> 00:10:58,929 you preparing your team for these challenges ahead? 292 00:10:59,985 --> 00:11:02,085 So, you know, we have to be 293 00:11:02,705 --> 00:11:04,565 transparent and consistent. Right? 294 00:11:05,425 --> 00:11:07,985 So I mentioned earlier, like, getting ahead of 295 00:11:07,985 --> 00:11:10,465 it, and I think, you know, we explained 296 00:11:10,465 --> 00:11:13,264 the why. Like, show how ideas fit into 297 00:11:13,264 --> 00:11:14,644 a broader road map 298 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:15,500 and 299 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:18,299 reinforce the prioritizations 300 00:11:19,159 --> 00:11:21,899 is about sequencing and not shutting things down. 301 00:11:22,519 --> 00:11:24,279 So, you know, when when teams see that 302 00:11:24,279 --> 00:11:26,220 decisions are thoughtful and aligned 303 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:27,820 to patient care 304 00:11:28,455 --> 00:11:29,195 and sustainability, 305 00:11:30,295 --> 00:11:32,634 I I think our our engagement stays high. 306 00:11:33,014 --> 00:11:35,175 So I, again, I think that's the the 307 00:11:35,175 --> 00:11:35,675 key 308 00:11:36,134 --> 00:11:38,955 is being very transparent and being and planning 309 00:11:39,335 --> 00:11:39,835 ahead, 310 00:11:40,615 --> 00:11:44,129 and not rushing in and being reactive to 311 00:11:44,509 --> 00:11:46,049 what's happening around us. 312 00:11:47,070 --> 00:11:49,409 Yeah. That's great advice. Thank you for sharing. 313 00:11:50,029 --> 00:11:52,269 Now even with those challenges, there are still 314 00:11:52,269 --> 00:11:54,074 areas for growth. Where do you see the 315 00:11:54,074 --> 00:11:57,115 best opportunities for organizational growth moving forward for 316 00:11:57,115 --> 00:11:57,774 Mount Sinai? 317 00:11:59,034 --> 00:12:00,414 So I you know, 318 00:12:01,195 --> 00:12:04,154 the the the strongest growth opportunities, I I 319 00:12:04,154 --> 00:12:04,975 think, are 320 00:12:06,330 --> 00:12:06,830 where 321 00:12:07,210 --> 00:12:07,710 pharmacy 322 00:12:08,730 --> 00:12:11,149 expands its clinical and strategic influence. 323 00:12:12,809 --> 00:12:16,330 So, you know, specialty pharmacy infusion and advanced 324 00:12:16,330 --> 00:12:18,909 therapies, as I mentioned earlier, are 325 00:12:19,644 --> 00:12:21,904 are probably obvious areas. Right? 326 00:12:22,365 --> 00:12:22,865 But 327 00:12:23,245 --> 00:12:23,745 growth, 328 00:12:24,125 --> 00:12:26,065 to me, anyway, comes from 329 00:12:27,404 --> 00:12:29,105 be being better integrated 330 00:12:30,125 --> 00:12:32,544 across the continuum of care, from inpatient 331 00:12:33,084 --> 00:12:33,745 to ambulatory 332 00:12:34,284 --> 00:12:37,019 to home. So digital capabilities, 333 00:12:37,399 --> 00:12:39,339 as I mentioned, are a force multiplier. 334 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:41,740 So when you combine a 335 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,899 a a clinic, a strong clinical program 336 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,179 with the right technology, pharmacy becomes 337 00:12:50,274 --> 00:12:53,174 a driver of access, right, quality and financial 338 00:12:53,235 --> 00:12:53,735 performance. 339 00:12:54,434 --> 00:12:56,914 So I think, ultimately, growth isn't just about 340 00:12:56,914 --> 00:12:59,154 the about volume. Right? It's about building a 341 00:12:59,154 --> 00:13:01,174 a strong pharmacy enterprise 342 00:13:01,955 --> 00:13:04,355 that I mentioned earlier, right, that's resilient, data 343 00:13:04,355 --> 00:13:05,414 driven, and prepared 344 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:08,639 for what's next. And I I think that's 345 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:11,360 where the our growth lies, like, being prepared 346 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,919 for what's next. So it's not always about 347 00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:14,580 the volume. 348 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,120 I I think it's just building a a 349 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,495 strong resilient team. 350 00:13:19,375 --> 00:13:20,434 Mhmm. Definitely. 351 00:13:21,214 --> 00:13:23,054 Well, Joseph, this has been such a great 352 00:13:23,054 --> 00:13:25,134 conversation. Thank you so much for sharing your 353 00:13:25,134 --> 00:13:27,615 perspectives and insights with us. That's all for 354 00:13:27,615 --> 00:13:30,355 today's episode of the Becker's Pharmacy Leadership Podcast. 355 00:13:30,690 --> 00:13:32,450 A big thank you to Joseph Pinto for 356 00:13:32,450 --> 00:13:35,330 joining us to discuss pharmacy priorities, challenges, and 357 00:13:35,330 --> 00:13:38,129 opportunities at Mount Sinai Health System. Thanks for 358 00:13:38,129 --> 00:13:39,830 listening, and we'll see you next time.