1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,879 This is Scott Becker with the Becker Business 2 00:00:02,879 --> 00:00:05,200 and the Becker Private Equity podcast. This will 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,000 also be a special combined episode with Becker's 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:08,500 HealthCare. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,619 This episode today, we're gonna feature a brilliant 6 00:00:12,255 --> 00:00:15,294 woman leader, Susan Barrett, who's a general counsel 7 00:00:15,294 --> 00:00:17,695 and chief compliance officer of a company called 8 00:00:17,695 --> 00:00:18,195 Montanito. 9 00:00:19,054 --> 00:00:21,394 And Montanito is in the eating disorder 10 00:00:21,775 --> 00:00:22,275 area. 11 00:00:22,894 --> 00:00:24,654 She's a brilliant leader. We'll talk a little 12 00:00:24,654 --> 00:00:27,554 bit about her career, about what Montanito does, 13 00:00:27,780 --> 00:00:29,699 where they're most focused, the trends we're watching, 14 00:00:29,699 --> 00:00:30,679 and a lot more. 15 00:00:31,300 --> 00:00:33,539 Susan, can you take a moment to introduce 16 00:00:33,539 --> 00:00:35,479 yourself and tell us a little bit about 17 00:00:35,539 --> 00:00:36,039 Montanito? 18 00:00:37,539 --> 00:00:40,579 Yeah. Absolutely. So, yeah, I'm Susan Barrett. I 19 00:00:40,579 --> 00:00:43,320 am the general counsel and the chief compliance 20 00:00:43,655 --> 00:00:44,554 officer at Montanito. 21 00:00:45,575 --> 00:00:49,195 We are a leading provider of eating disorder 22 00:00:49,335 --> 00:00:51,274 treatment. So we have services 23 00:00:51,975 --> 00:00:52,875 through approximately 24 00:00:53,414 --> 00:00:55,115 50 brick and mortar locations 25 00:00:55,655 --> 00:00:58,234 as well as virtually across The US. So 26 00:00:58,530 --> 00:01:00,929 we're doing every level of care here. It's 27 00:01:00,929 --> 00:01:01,429 inpatient, 28 00:01:01,890 --> 00:01:02,390 residential, 29 00:01:02,769 --> 00:01:03,750 partial hospitalization, 30 00:01:04,369 --> 00:01:05,430 intensive outpatient, 31 00:01:06,530 --> 00:01:09,250 and more recently outpatient levels of care as 32 00:01:09,250 --> 00:01:10,229 well. So 33 00:01:10,625 --> 00:01:11,525 it's a comprehensive 34 00:01:12,305 --> 00:01:12,805 staff. 35 00:01:13,344 --> 00:01:14,405 We have psychiatrists, 36 00:01:15,104 --> 00:01:16,564 other allied health care 37 00:01:16,864 --> 00:01:18,484 providers like nurse practitioners, 38 00:01:19,424 --> 00:01:19,924 therapists, 39 00:01:20,545 --> 00:01:21,604 registered dietitians, 40 00:01:22,064 --> 00:01:23,685 nurses, recovery coaches, 41 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,159 you know, all of them play a part 42 00:01:26,159 --> 00:01:28,799 in the recovery journey. So I've been with 43 00:01:28,799 --> 00:01:31,540 the company for a little over three years 44 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:32,180 now. 45 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,140 It's an excellent place to work, 46 00:01:36,159 --> 00:01:37,939 smart, passionate colleagues. 47 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,754 And just from a personal standpoint, 48 00:01:41,055 --> 00:01:43,394 it's pretty rewarding just given the number of, 49 00:01:43,694 --> 00:01:46,174 clients that we've helped recover from eating disorders, 50 00:01:46,174 --> 00:01:46,994 which is a 51 00:01:47,454 --> 00:01:48,274 pretty deadly, 52 00:01:48,974 --> 00:01:50,435 mental health disease. 53 00:01:51,614 --> 00:01:54,450 So so fascinating sort of growth story for 54 00:01:54,450 --> 00:01:56,230 for the for the company, for Montanito 55 00:01:56,689 --> 00:01:58,609 in an area where there's so much prevalence 56 00:01:58,609 --> 00:02:00,390 and so much challenge and so important. 57 00:02:01,010 --> 00:02:03,590 Talk about as you head into 2026, 58 00:02:03,810 --> 00:02:05,569 what are you most focused on and excited 59 00:02:05,569 --> 00:02:06,629 about at Montanito? 60 00:02:07,885 --> 00:02:09,965 Yeah. I'm excited about the, you know, the 61 00:02:09,965 --> 00:02:10,465 continued 62 00:02:10,764 --> 00:02:11,264 opportunity 63 00:02:11,885 --> 00:02:14,125 to increase the access to care both, you 64 00:02:14,125 --> 00:02:16,525 know, brick and mortar and virtually to reach 65 00:02:16,525 --> 00:02:17,025 more, 66 00:02:18,044 --> 00:02:19,985 patients that are in need of the services. 67 00:02:20,125 --> 00:02:22,784 So, you know, last year, we had Andy 68 00:02:23,110 --> 00:02:25,370 Blankenmeier. He was appointed our CEO. 69 00:02:26,389 --> 00:02:28,949 He's really passionate about the work that we 70 00:02:28,949 --> 00:02:29,449 do. 71 00:02:30,469 --> 00:02:30,969 Really, 72 00:02:31,989 --> 00:02:34,090 two new board members. They've 73 00:02:34,469 --> 00:02:37,129 really deep expertise in health care and behavioral 74 00:02:37,349 --> 00:02:37,849 health. 75 00:02:38,254 --> 00:02:39,155 We had our, 76 00:02:40,094 --> 00:02:40,754 you know, 77 00:02:41,135 --> 00:02:43,794 twenty twenty five outcomes report, which 78 00:02:44,495 --> 00:02:46,735 all of that showed, you know, really strong 79 00:02:46,735 --> 00:02:48,754 symptom reduction and client satisfaction. 80 00:02:49,135 --> 00:02:51,875 So I expect all of this to continue. 81 00:02:52,014 --> 00:02:54,699 It's it's a good time to be a 82 00:02:54,699 --> 00:02:56,620 part of the behavioral health space, in my 83 00:02:56,620 --> 00:02:59,199 opinion, because there's so many people to reach 84 00:02:59,419 --> 00:03:01,120 here. And I think it's exciting, 85 00:03:01,659 --> 00:03:03,659 you know, for the company to continue to 86 00:03:03,659 --> 00:03:04,719 grow, and and, 87 00:03:05,885 --> 00:03:07,825 everyone that I work with is super passionate 88 00:03:07,885 --> 00:03:10,205 about what we're doing. And so it's I 89 00:03:10,205 --> 00:03:13,325 think we can continue the good services, the 90 00:03:13,325 --> 00:03:14,064 good outcomes, 91 00:03:14,365 --> 00:03:17,085 and just continue to reach more people virtually 92 00:03:17,085 --> 00:03:18,224 in in person. 93 00:03:19,419 --> 00:03:20,659 I'd I'd want to talk to you for 94 00:03:20,659 --> 00:03:24,060 a moment about leadership because Andy Blankenmeier is 95 00:03:24,060 --> 00:03:25,439 a fantastic leader. 96 00:03:25,819 --> 00:03:28,879 You yourself are having a fantastic leadership career. 97 00:03:29,099 --> 00:03:30,939 I I saw recently you were named as 98 00:03:30,939 --> 00:03:32,159 a top counsel, 99 00:03:32,939 --> 00:03:33,919 in in a certain 100 00:03:34,305 --> 00:03:35,764 group, and and congratulations. 101 00:03:36,465 --> 00:03:37,824 Talk a little bit about when you think 102 00:03:37,824 --> 00:03:39,444 about leadership, about 103 00:03:39,905 --> 00:03:42,544 what resonates with you, what types of skill 104 00:03:42,544 --> 00:03:44,705 sets, and what advice might you give to 105 00:03:44,705 --> 00:03:45,604 emerging leaders? 106 00:03:45,905 --> 00:03:47,905 I I I remember Andy from I think 107 00:03:47,905 --> 00:03:49,665 when he was in Ohio before he was 108 00:03:49,665 --> 00:03:50,039 with 109 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:51,500 this company 110 00:03:51,879 --> 00:03:54,039 and a and a tremendous leader. But but 111 00:03:54,039 --> 00:03:56,060 talk about, like, your own leadership thoughts, 112 00:03:56,519 --> 00:03:58,120 what you see in Andy, what you see 113 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,099 in people generally 114 00:03:59,639 --> 00:04:02,039 that you would maybe give advice to on 115 00:04:02,039 --> 00:04:03,019 emerging leaders. 116 00:04:03,914 --> 00:04:06,254 Yeah. I mean, I think from my perspective, 117 00:04:06,634 --> 00:04:08,794 you know, the number one thing is to, 118 00:04:08,794 --> 00:04:10,715 you know, work hard and do good work. 119 00:04:10,715 --> 00:04:13,514 That's obviously step one. But you have to 120 00:04:13,514 --> 00:04:14,014 build 121 00:04:14,474 --> 00:04:16,634 relationships and trust with the people that you 122 00:04:16,634 --> 00:04:18,620 work with. I mean, particularly 123 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,120 in my space, you know, being the chief 124 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,779 compliance officer and the general counsel, 125 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,800 I want people to feel that they can 126 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,560 reach out to me at any time with 127 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,580 any question or concern because, 128 00:04:32,104 --> 00:04:34,185 you know, I wanna be proactive in in 129 00:04:34,185 --> 00:04:36,925 addressing issues. I want people to feel comfortable, 130 00:04:37,384 --> 00:04:39,305 and I want them to feel, you know, 131 00:04:39,305 --> 00:04:40,204 I'm internalizing 132 00:04:40,584 --> 00:04:42,824 their problems and making it my problem and 133 00:04:42,824 --> 00:04:45,480 being innovative with them to find a solution. 134 00:04:46,180 --> 00:04:48,100 So I think it's either you wanna be 135 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:50,899 responsive. You gotta understand the full picture from 136 00:04:50,899 --> 00:04:51,399 people. 137 00:04:52,020 --> 00:04:53,879 Don't be afraid to pick up the phone 138 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:56,759 and just find ways to assist. And and 139 00:04:57,435 --> 00:04:58,254 people want 140 00:04:59,035 --> 00:05:00,735 to have a culture of compliance. 141 00:05:01,115 --> 00:05:03,754 Right? They wanna do the right things, and 142 00:05:03,754 --> 00:05:05,615 so whatever I can do 143 00:05:06,555 --> 00:05:07,595 to assist them. 144 00:05:08,074 --> 00:05:08,975 There's no 145 00:05:09,355 --> 00:05:11,759 you know, I I am the only, 146 00:05:12,460 --> 00:05:14,879 attorney at the company right now, and 147 00:05:15,180 --> 00:05:17,180 anyone can reach out to me at any 148 00:05:17,180 --> 00:05:19,259 time. You know, it doesn't matter what I'm 149 00:05:19,259 --> 00:05:22,060 doing. It's it's all important to me. So 150 00:05:22,060 --> 00:05:24,915 I think build that trust with your colleagues 151 00:05:24,915 --> 00:05:25,415 because 152 00:05:25,875 --> 00:05:27,415 when it comes to a situation 153 00:05:27,795 --> 00:05:28,295 where, 154 00:05:28,675 --> 00:05:31,235 you know, they are are stuck, you want 155 00:05:31,235 --> 00:05:33,074 them to look for look to you as 156 00:05:33,074 --> 00:05:35,154 a resource. You can protect the company from 157 00:05:35,154 --> 00:05:37,095 risk and liability in those situations. 158 00:05:37,689 --> 00:05:38,189 So, 159 00:05:39,529 --> 00:05:42,170 it's it's a it's a unique position to 160 00:05:42,170 --> 00:05:44,569 be in, but it's a really important role 161 00:05:44,569 --> 00:05:47,769 for company to have, you know, a leader, 162 00:05:47,769 --> 00:05:50,569 a general counsel, and and or a chief 163 00:05:50,569 --> 00:05:53,685 compliance officer that has those relationships with staff 164 00:05:53,685 --> 00:05:54,185 members. 165 00:05:55,204 --> 00:05:57,125 No. It's it's truly remarkable. And in the 166 00:05:57,125 --> 00:05:58,504 eating disorder space, 167 00:05:59,444 --> 00:06:02,084 what trends are you watching currently? What what 168 00:06:02,084 --> 00:06:03,524 sort of is top of mind in the 169 00:06:03,524 --> 00:06:04,985 eating disorders area? 170 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:07,620 Yeah. I mean, I think 171 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,639 for for me on the legal side, like, 172 00:06:10,639 --> 00:06:12,019 I do a daily review 173 00:06:12,319 --> 00:06:15,279 of, you know, the current administration and any 174 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:15,779 impact 175 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,339 on the health care sector, whether that's 176 00:06:18,805 --> 00:06:19,625 court decisions, 177 00:06:20,485 --> 00:06:22,805 like, for instance, you know, ninth circuit just 178 00:06:22,805 --> 00:06:25,365 issued the appellate ruling on ECRA. You know? 179 00:06:25,365 --> 00:06:26,904 We have the executive orders, 180 00:06:28,324 --> 00:06:31,464 how that impacts us, any actions by administrative 181 00:06:31,685 --> 00:06:33,779 bodies. You know? I I handle all our 182 00:06:33,939 --> 00:06:35,639 employment work, you know, EEOC 183 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:37,000 decisions, 184 00:06:37,939 --> 00:06:39,879 any HIPAA related with HHS. 185 00:06:41,060 --> 00:06:42,919 So I'm I'm constantly, 186 00:06:44,339 --> 00:06:47,235 you know, reviewing and seeing how that's evolving 187 00:06:47,375 --> 00:06:49,795 and impacting us. And then if it does, 188 00:06:50,334 --> 00:06:51,394 you know, it's it's 189 00:06:52,175 --> 00:06:54,995 determining next steps, whether that's training with employees, 190 00:06:55,134 --> 00:06:58,175 updating our policies, and and trying to be 191 00:06:58,175 --> 00:07:01,389 proactive versus reactive with the current administration and 192 00:07:01,389 --> 00:07:03,790 and their impact on health care. I think 193 00:07:03,790 --> 00:07:06,350 the other trend for us and, really, I 194 00:07:06,350 --> 00:07:08,269 think it's just anyone in health care right 195 00:07:08,269 --> 00:07:09,569 now who's in legal. 196 00:07:10,029 --> 00:07:11,550 You know, you kinda have to be on 197 00:07:11,550 --> 00:07:14,435 top of the latest laws and and regulations 198 00:07:14,574 --> 00:07:17,074 related to the use of technology and AI. 199 00:07:17,694 --> 00:07:19,935 I mean, it's it's a hot topic right 200 00:07:19,935 --> 00:07:22,654 now and, you know, we want to increase 201 00:07:22,654 --> 00:07:24,914 efficiency in the patient care experience. 202 00:07:25,214 --> 00:07:27,479 So, you know, in order to do that, 203 00:07:27,479 --> 00:07:29,000 you know, we have to be able to 204 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,720 manage risk and comply with HIPAA and and 205 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,519 privacy laws. And, you know, that's definitely a 206 00:07:34,519 --> 00:07:37,579 newer topic in the past year or so, 207 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,120 that we're you have to kinda be all 208 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,714 over because it's it's important for the business. 209 00:07:43,654 --> 00:07:46,074 And and I can imagine that every family, 210 00:07:46,375 --> 00:07:49,354 every person that has a eating disorder 211 00:07:49,894 --> 00:07:52,074 is also looking at Chi ChiPT 212 00:07:52,615 --> 00:07:55,914 and online resources and so forth. And and 213 00:07:56,089 --> 00:07:58,110 are there challenges in sort of 214 00:07:58,810 --> 00:08:01,710 pushing through that and and being able to 215 00:08:02,170 --> 00:08:04,110 talk to patients, talk to families 216 00:08:04,650 --> 00:08:05,150 about 217 00:08:05,529 --> 00:08:06,029 both 218 00:08:06,569 --> 00:08:08,810 combining, converging the synergies and what they're seeing 219 00:08:08,810 --> 00:08:10,830 online versus what you folks are doing? 220 00:08:11,824 --> 00:08:13,205 Are those evolving issues? 221 00:08:14,225 --> 00:08:16,725 Those are evolving issues. I mean, the Internet 222 00:08:17,185 --> 00:08:20,545 in AI is is a great thing, right, 223 00:08:20,545 --> 00:08:23,285 in my opinion. It we can use it 224 00:08:23,425 --> 00:08:25,925 to to really enhance the 225 00:08:26,599 --> 00:08:29,319 the patient care experience, and I think there's 226 00:08:29,319 --> 00:08:31,319 a lot of value to it. There's also 227 00:08:31,319 --> 00:08:32,220 some dangers, 228 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,839 you know, what you just mentioned on on 229 00:08:34,839 --> 00:08:35,339 misconceptions 230 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:38,279 from what you read online. But I think, 231 00:08:38,279 --> 00:08:40,360 you know, our company does a really good 232 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:41,259 job of 233 00:08:42,434 --> 00:08:42,934 being, 234 00:08:43,394 --> 00:08:46,855 transparent with families, having open lines of communication, 235 00:08:47,875 --> 00:08:51,235 having, you know, good relationships with out outside 236 00:08:51,235 --> 00:08:51,735 providers, 237 00:08:52,674 --> 00:08:55,254 so that, you know, they're getting firsthand 238 00:08:55,955 --> 00:08:57,735 information and medical opinions 239 00:08:58,250 --> 00:09:00,889 versus just what they're seeing online, which isn't 240 00:09:00,889 --> 00:09:02,190 always the most accurate. 241 00:09:03,289 --> 00:09:05,850 Thank you so much. Susan, it is a 242 00:09:05,850 --> 00:09:07,929 great pleasure to get a chance to visit 243 00:09:07,929 --> 00:09:10,909 with you today, a remarkable leader and professional. 244 00:09:11,574 --> 00:09:13,254 I wanna thank you for joining us on 245 00:09:13,254 --> 00:09:16,214 this combined episode of the Becker's Healthcare podcast 246 00:09:16,214 --> 00:09:18,394 and the Becker private equity and business podcast. 247 00:09:18,534 --> 00:09:20,394 Thank you so much for joining us today. 248 00:09:20,695 --> 00:09:22,375 Thanks so much for having me, Scott. I 249 00:09:22,375 --> 00:09:23,514 really appreciate it.