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Better care for more people. 9 00:00:25,204 --> 00:00:25,704 Philips. 10 00:00:28,789 --> 00:00:30,710 This is Gracelyn Keller with the Becker's Healthcare 11 00:00:30,710 --> 00:00:32,469 Podcast, and we are recording live at the 12 00:00:32,469 --> 00:00:35,129 tenth annual health IT, digital health, and RCM 13 00:00:35,189 --> 00:00:37,509 meeting. I'm currently joined by Michael Hahn, who 14 00:00:37,509 --> 00:00:39,829 is the chief medical information officer at MultiCare 15 00:00:39,829 --> 00:00:42,164 Health System. Michael, thanks for being here. Let's 16 00:00:42,164 --> 00:00:43,524 have you start off by sharing a little 17 00:00:43,524 --> 00:00:45,204 bit more about your background and your work 18 00:00:45,204 --> 00:00:45,864 in health 19 00:00:46,164 --> 00:00:48,564 care. Sure. So my name is Michael Hahn. 20 00:00:48,564 --> 00:00:50,344 I work for MultiCare Health System. 21 00:00:50,884 --> 00:00:53,064 We are a 13 hospital, 22 00:00:53,445 --> 00:00:56,344 integrated delivery network, based in Tacoma, Washington. 23 00:00:56,740 --> 00:00:58,200 We have about 13 hospitals, 24 00:00:58,740 --> 00:00:59,700 27,000 25 00:00:59,700 --> 00:01:00,200 employees, 26 00:01:00,980 --> 00:01:03,560 and I am a urologist by background. 27 00:01:04,099 --> 00:01:06,359 And so I practiced urology for, 28 00:01:07,859 --> 00:01:10,520 about fifteen or sixteen years before I made 29 00:01:11,344 --> 00:01:12,965 on the leap into full time, 30 00:01:13,744 --> 00:01:16,545 into a full time informatics role. So I'm 31 00:01:16,545 --> 00:01:19,364 presently the chief medical information officer at MultiCare. 32 00:01:20,064 --> 00:01:22,084 I'm responsible for all physician 33 00:01:22,465 --> 00:01:24,004 and advanced practice provider, 34 00:01:24,384 --> 00:01:24,884 facing 35 00:01:25,290 --> 00:01:25,790 software, 36 00:01:26,250 --> 00:01:27,390 in terms of governance, 37 00:01:28,010 --> 00:01:28,510 implementation, 38 00:01:28,810 --> 00:01:29,630 and adoption. 39 00:01:30,890 --> 00:01:33,469 I'm particularly interested in in any, 40 00:01:34,490 --> 00:01:34,990 applications, 41 00:01:35,689 --> 00:01:36,909 that can help improve, 42 00:01:37,450 --> 00:01:38,750 the patient and physician, 43 00:01:39,130 --> 00:01:39,630 experience. 44 00:01:40,584 --> 00:01:43,144 Wonderful. Well, again, thanks for being here. And 45 00:01:43,144 --> 00:01:45,784 let's start with talking about AI because nearly 46 00:01:45,784 --> 00:01:48,344 half of medical practices reported using AI in 47 00:01:48,344 --> 00:01:50,344 some capacity in the last year, and it 48 00:01:50,344 --> 00:01:52,104 does remain the key topic for health IT 49 00:01:52,104 --> 00:01:52,604 leaders. 50 00:01:53,009 --> 00:01:54,769 So from your perspective, what are the use 51 00:01:54,769 --> 00:01:56,609 cases that are making a difference right now, 52 00:01:56,609 --> 00:01:58,530 and how are you leveraging them in your 53 00:01:58,530 --> 00:01:59,030 organization? 54 00:01:59,810 --> 00:02:00,709 Yeah. So, 55 00:02:02,049 --> 00:02:02,549 from 56 00:02:03,409 --> 00:02:04,629 a clinical standpoint, 57 00:02:05,170 --> 00:02:06,149 our our first 58 00:02:06,605 --> 00:02:08,145 applications that we really implemented, 59 00:02:08,844 --> 00:02:09,665 at MultiCare, 60 00:02:10,444 --> 00:02:11,264 were in, 61 00:02:11,805 --> 00:02:13,985 the early detection of stroke, 62 00:02:14,525 --> 00:02:17,085 in the ER. So, we have, two vendors 63 00:02:17,085 --> 00:02:18,305 that are currently live, 64 00:02:18,969 --> 00:02:21,449 and and and time is time is neurons. 65 00:02:21,449 --> 00:02:22,110 And so, 66 00:02:22,889 --> 00:02:25,210 these applications have certainly helped us in this 67 00:02:25,210 --> 00:02:25,710 space. 68 00:02:26,490 --> 00:02:28,810 I think that you can't go anywhere in 69 00:02:28,810 --> 00:02:30,750 this conference without running into something, 70 00:02:31,210 --> 00:02:32,909 regarding ambient clinical documentation. 71 00:02:34,055 --> 00:02:36,134 And so right now, we are in a 72 00:02:36,134 --> 00:02:37,354 a three way trial, 73 00:02:38,134 --> 00:02:39,674 comparing three separate vendors, 74 00:02:40,294 --> 00:02:42,155 with almost 500 providers, 75 00:02:42,935 --> 00:02:43,754 at MultiCare. 76 00:02:44,134 --> 00:02:46,474 And and, you know, I'm pleased to 77 00:02:46,854 --> 00:02:47,354 report 78 00:02:47,790 --> 00:02:49,729 our initial survey data, 79 00:02:50,189 --> 00:02:51,169 has been absolutely 80 00:02:51,550 --> 00:02:52,050 astounding. 81 00:02:52,590 --> 00:02:55,389 We have, gone from a twenty three percent 82 00:02:55,389 --> 00:02:56,290 burnout rate, 83 00:02:56,669 --> 00:02:58,610 prior to using ambient clinical acclimation 84 00:02:59,069 --> 00:03:01,409 to a less than four percent burnout rate. 85 00:03:01,504 --> 00:03:03,525 And at the same time, we've gone from, 86 00:03:04,224 --> 00:03:06,645 only eight percent of providers in the trial, 87 00:03:07,104 --> 00:03:09,044 who stated they enjoyed practice, 88 00:03:09,585 --> 00:03:10,645 before the trial, 89 00:03:11,185 --> 00:03:13,685 moved to over thirty six percent of providers, 90 00:03:14,210 --> 00:03:17,090 saying that they, were enjoying their practice after 91 00:03:17,090 --> 00:03:17,590 implementing, 92 00:03:18,370 --> 00:03:20,469 an ambient clinical documentation solution. 93 00:03:21,090 --> 00:03:24,050 So, you know, I'm extremely bullish on on 94 00:03:24,050 --> 00:03:25,349 ambient clinical documentation, 95 00:03:26,129 --> 00:03:28,625 and how it's gonna affect not just the 96 00:03:28,625 --> 00:03:30,645 the the physician and APP experience, 97 00:03:31,425 --> 00:03:32,145 but the, 98 00:03:32,705 --> 00:03:33,685 patient experience. 99 00:03:34,465 --> 00:03:34,965 Absolutely. 100 00:03:35,425 --> 00:03:38,305 And as virtual care expands from AI enabled 101 00:03:38,305 --> 00:03:39,764 tools and remote monitoring 102 00:03:40,099 --> 00:03:42,900 to broader digital health platforms, introducing these new 103 00:03:42,900 --> 00:03:45,159 technologies does bring its own challenges. 104 00:03:45,460 --> 00:03:47,480 So what advice do you have for leaders 105 00:03:47,860 --> 00:03:50,659 navigating everything from governance to patient engagement? And 106 00:03:50,659 --> 00:03:52,099 can you share an example of how your 107 00:03:52,099 --> 00:03:54,840 organization has balanced innovation with operational constraints? 108 00:03:56,264 --> 00:03:57,324 I think I'm gonna 109 00:03:57,625 --> 00:03:59,724 tackle this one from a governance standpoint. 110 00:04:00,745 --> 00:04:01,944 You know, when and I and I guess 111 00:04:01,944 --> 00:04:04,125 I'll go back to our ambient clinical documentation 112 00:04:04,344 --> 00:04:04,844 trial. 113 00:04:05,864 --> 00:04:08,364 This was not something that IT did 114 00:04:08,829 --> 00:04:10,370 to the physician enterprise. 115 00:04:10,989 --> 00:04:11,729 This is something, 116 00:04:12,509 --> 00:04:16,289 that myself and our physician leadership, 117 00:04:17,149 --> 00:04:18,289 embarked on together. 118 00:04:18,829 --> 00:04:20,834 And so they were able to get, 119 00:04:21,154 --> 00:04:23,714 the the the provider buy in, that was 120 00:04:23,714 --> 00:04:26,834 necessary to make this, pilot successful, and I 121 00:04:26,834 --> 00:04:27,894 was able to get, 122 00:04:28,274 --> 00:04:30,375 the buy in from an IT and governance 123 00:04:30,435 --> 00:04:32,454 standpoint. And so by working together, 124 00:04:32,834 --> 00:04:34,675 we were able to deliver this tool that 125 00:04:34,675 --> 00:04:36,454 that that I'm gonna call game changing, 126 00:04:36,889 --> 00:04:38,830 for our for our providers at MultiCare. 127 00:04:39,930 --> 00:04:41,850 And final question as we do wrap up 128 00:04:41,850 --> 00:04:43,930 our conversation. I'd love to know your top 129 00:04:43,930 --> 00:04:45,689 piece of advice for health care leaders as 130 00:04:45,689 --> 00:04:48,009 they prepare for further advancements in technology and 131 00:04:48,009 --> 00:04:49,389 rising demands for care. 132 00:04:50,009 --> 00:04:51,634 I think I'm gonna double click on what 133 00:04:51,634 --> 00:04:53,634 what what, what we just talked about in 134 00:04:53,634 --> 00:04:54,375 terms of 135 00:04:54,754 --> 00:04:55,414 the importance 136 00:04:55,714 --> 00:04:56,454 of IT 137 00:04:56,995 --> 00:04:59,654 and medical leadership working hand in hand, 138 00:05:00,035 --> 00:05:02,214 arm in arm to implement new technology. 139 00:05:02,709 --> 00:05:05,750 The IT tail can't wag, the operational clinical 140 00:05:05,829 --> 00:05:07,209 and and clinical dog. 141 00:05:07,909 --> 00:05:09,669 We we need to work together in order 142 00:05:09,669 --> 00:05:10,490 to prioritize, 143 00:05:12,069 --> 00:05:12,649 new solutions, 144 00:05:13,430 --> 00:05:15,289 and implement these new solutions 145 00:05:15,884 --> 00:05:18,464 and drive adoption of these new solutions. 146 00:05:19,324 --> 00:05:21,164 Absolutely. Well, Michael, thanks so much for being 147 00:05:21,164 --> 00:05:22,685 here today and joining me on the Becker's 148 00:05:22,685 --> 00:05:24,925 Healthcare Podcast. Again, we are recording live at 149 00:05:24,925 --> 00:05:27,004 the tenth annual health IT, digital health, and 150 00:05:27,004 --> 00:05:27,985 RCM meeting.