1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,659 Welcome to the Becker's Healthcare podcast. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,160 I'm Elizabeth Gregerson, a reporter here at Becker's, 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,240 and I'm thrilled to be joined by Corey 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:08,740 Jones, 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,080 AVP of oncology services at Banner Health on 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,219 the podcast today. 7 00:00:13,724 --> 00:00:16,125 Thank you so much for joining me. I'm 8 00:00:16,125 --> 00:00:18,204 so grateful to share your insights with our 9 00:00:18,204 --> 00:00:19,265 podcast audience. 10 00:00:19,724 --> 00:00:21,504 Before I dive into my questions, 11 00:00:21,804 --> 00:00:23,884 could I ask you to introduce yourself and 12 00:00:23,884 --> 00:00:26,620 just tell us a bit about Banner Health 13 00:00:26,620 --> 00:00:29,359 and your role with the oncology line specifically? 14 00:00:30,859 --> 00:00:33,340 Thank you, Elizabeth. I appreciate the opportunity and 15 00:00:33,340 --> 00:00:35,659 and having me today. I am, again, as 16 00:00:35,659 --> 00:00:37,899 you indicated, Corey Jones. I'm the ABP of 17 00:00:37,899 --> 00:00:40,399 the oncology service line at Banner Health. 18 00:00:40,984 --> 00:00:42,604 So we're one of the largest nonprofit 19 00:00:42,984 --> 00:00:44,765 health care systems in the country. 20 00:00:45,144 --> 00:00:47,704 We have a provider sponsored health insurance program 21 00:00:47,704 --> 00:00:49,464 that we serve over three and a half 22 00:00:49,464 --> 00:00:49,964 million, 23 00:00:50,664 --> 00:00:53,085 people. We have 33 hospitals 24 00:00:53,625 --> 00:00:55,564 and over 450 25 00:00:55,625 --> 00:00:56,100 care 26 00:00:56,500 --> 00:00:59,239 services across the the states of Arizona, 27 00:00:59,859 --> 00:01:02,280 Colorado, Wyoming, Nevada, and Nebraska. 28 00:01:02,659 --> 00:01:04,519 That includes physician groups, 29 00:01:05,219 --> 00:01:07,479 imaging services, retail pharmacy, 30 00:01:08,019 --> 00:01:08,519 rehabilitation 31 00:01:08,819 --> 00:01:11,385 physical therapy, so the whole gamut of services 32 00:01:11,385 --> 00:01:12,605 that are provided here. 33 00:01:13,064 --> 00:01:15,305 As part of my role, I actually oversee 34 00:01:15,305 --> 00:01:17,465 the oncology services that are related to the 35 00:01:17,465 --> 00:01:20,424 BannerMD Anderson Cancer Center program, which falls under 36 00:01:20,424 --> 00:01:20,924 Banner. 37 00:01:21,385 --> 00:01:22,344 And it is among, 38 00:01:22,665 --> 00:01:25,245 it is located across 10 different sites. 39 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,020 Again, we focus on specifically services 40 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,060 in Arizona 41 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:30,100 and, 42 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:31,140 Colorado. 43 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,240 We are partnered with MD Anderson, which is 44 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,260 one of the leading cancer centers 45 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,540 across the country 46 00:01:37,945 --> 00:01:40,344 where we really are sharing and providing best 47 00:01:40,344 --> 00:01:43,805 practices and protocols and delivering cancer care services. 48 00:01:44,265 --> 00:01:46,344 It's been a relationship that we're very excited 49 00:01:46,344 --> 00:01:47,965 to be a part of with that partnership 50 00:01:48,265 --> 00:01:50,685 over the last ten plus years. 51 00:01:53,870 --> 00:01:56,109 Perfect. Thank you. Yeah. I I think that 52 00:01:56,109 --> 00:01:58,829 partnership is such a a wonderful one to 53 00:01:58,829 --> 00:02:00,350 highlight, so I thank you for sharing that 54 00:02:00,350 --> 00:02:02,350 and kind of cluing our listeners in on 55 00:02:02,350 --> 00:02:05,409 what that relationship looks like. You know, our 56 00:02:05,469 --> 00:02:05,969 audience 57 00:02:06,644 --> 00:02:07,144 might 58 00:02:07,444 --> 00:02:09,604 be specialized in oncology, but they might come 59 00:02:09,604 --> 00:02:12,084 from a different background, be more administrative or, 60 00:02:12,084 --> 00:02:14,185 you know, across all the other service lines 61 00:02:14,564 --> 00:02:16,504 at health systems across The US. 62 00:02:17,044 --> 00:02:19,444 Zooming in on oncology, I'd love to hear 63 00:02:19,444 --> 00:02:20,425 from your perspective 64 00:02:21,090 --> 00:02:23,270 what major trends or innovations 65 00:02:23,969 --> 00:02:26,469 are you following right now in the oncology 66 00:02:26,530 --> 00:02:27,030 space? 67 00:02:27,889 --> 00:02:29,889 Yeah. I think it's really exciting what's happening 68 00:02:29,889 --> 00:02:33,590 within the therapeutic innovations, specifically about how care 69 00:02:33,615 --> 00:02:35,775 is being or how cancer is being treated, 70 00:02:35,775 --> 00:02:38,355 specifically with new drugs and obviously new technologies. 71 00:02:38,895 --> 00:02:40,995 I think it's really giving, our 72 00:02:41,375 --> 00:02:43,855 physicians an opportunity to really kind of fight 73 00:02:43,855 --> 00:02:44,355 this 74 00:02:44,735 --> 00:02:45,474 these diseases 75 00:02:45,775 --> 00:02:48,594 with new kind of tools and obviously ways 76 00:02:49,020 --> 00:02:51,580 of of dealing with this, disease. And I 77 00:02:51,580 --> 00:02:54,139 think the therapeutic specifically as we look about 78 00:02:54,139 --> 00:02:55,840 targeted therapies and immunotherapies 79 00:02:56,620 --> 00:02:58,800 and how those are being leveraged to support, 80 00:02:59,659 --> 00:03:02,080 the care delivery is obviously changing the landscape. 81 00:03:02,379 --> 00:03:04,395 Of course, there's a lot of different indirect, 82 00:03:04,715 --> 00:03:07,455 impacts of that related to costs, of course, 83 00:03:07,594 --> 00:03:09,355 that obviously have an influence on that and 84 00:03:09,355 --> 00:03:11,995 how we actually are receiving that or providing 85 00:03:11,995 --> 00:03:14,314 that care. But that's clearly an area of 86 00:03:14,314 --> 00:03:16,875 great opportunity and excitement, I think, that, is 87 00:03:16,875 --> 00:03:17,939 changing the landscape. 88 00:03:18,659 --> 00:03:20,819 Of course, we also know, like, how people 89 00:03:20,819 --> 00:03:21,560 are actually 90 00:03:21,939 --> 00:03:24,599 receiving care or how care is managed specifically, 91 00:03:25,540 --> 00:03:27,540 when we think about closer to home, when 92 00:03:27,540 --> 00:03:29,240 we think about virtual telemedicine, 93 00:03:29,540 --> 00:03:31,240 how that's applying to not only, 94 00:03:32,064 --> 00:03:34,085 providing or monitoring care, 95 00:03:34,385 --> 00:03:37,025 but also how to provide care closer to 96 00:03:37,025 --> 00:03:39,504 patients where they actually live. So I think 97 00:03:39,504 --> 00:03:40,405 that technology 98 00:03:40,705 --> 00:03:42,784 associated with that is obviously very exciting, and 99 00:03:42,784 --> 00:03:44,784 then we we track that and figure out 100 00:03:44,784 --> 00:03:46,485 how we can apply that appropriately. 101 00:03:47,319 --> 00:03:49,560 And then, of course, AI continues to be 102 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,239 a big part of the conversation we have, 103 00:03:51,239 --> 00:03:53,000 and we know that just as a national 104 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:53,900 or even a world, 105 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,159 phenomenon as to what AI is doing. And, 106 00:03:57,159 --> 00:03:59,879 clearly, that trend, and innovation of how that's 107 00:03:59,879 --> 00:04:02,060 going to be applied is still being evaluated. 108 00:04:02,555 --> 00:04:04,715 At Banner, we're very much focused on how 109 00:04:04,715 --> 00:04:06,635 to kind of take advantage of that, but 110 00:04:06,635 --> 00:04:08,635 being very cautious about how to apply it 111 00:04:08,635 --> 00:04:10,395 to how care is being delivered, not only 112 00:04:10,395 --> 00:04:12,094 in the cancer space, but overall. 113 00:04:12,875 --> 00:04:14,314 And then the other part of is it 114 00:04:14,314 --> 00:04:16,574 specifically around how diagnostics 115 00:04:18,919 --> 00:04:19,979 patients are being, 116 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,479 detected for cancer. We know that we have 117 00:04:23,479 --> 00:04:25,579 a large focus program on prevention. 118 00:04:26,519 --> 00:04:28,300 And so how do we use 119 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,500 technologies 120 00:04:29,879 --> 00:04:31,579 and other types of means to 121 00:04:32,314 --> 00:04:35,115 reach out to populations that don't necessarily have 122 00:04:35,115 --> 00:04:36,254 access to, 123 00:04:36,714 --> 00:04:39,355 screening and diagnostic capabilities. But how do we 124 00:04:39,355 --> 00:04:39,855 leverage 125 00:04:40,235 --> 00:04:42,314 the imaging services that are coming out and 126 00:04:42,314 --> 00:04:44,955 how imaging is obviously a critical part? You 127 00:04:44,955 --> 00:04:48,139 know, precision medicine and genetic testing all play 128 00:04:48,139 --> 00:04:50,300 an extremely important part in this. A lot 129 00:04:50,300 --> 00:04:52,379 of advancements in that space, especially when you 130 00:04:52,379 --> 00:04:54,080 start to think about blood testings 131 00:04:54,540 --> 00:04:56,460 and and how that kind of applies. So 132 00:04:56,460 --> 00:04:58,540 those are some of the really major four 133 00:04:58,540 --> 00:05:00,139 things. I mean, there's a a whole gamut 134 00:05:00,139 --> 00:05:01,995 of different types of trends that we're focusing 135 00:05:01,995 --> 00:05:03,835 on, but those those stand out to me 136 00:05:03,835 --> 00:05:04,335 today. 137 00:05:05,514 --> 00:05:06,014 Perfect. 138 00:05:06,795 --> 00:05:09,115 As someone who covers, you know, oncology news 139 00:05:09,115 --> 00:05:11,835 for Becker's, I'm always, you know, amazed and 140 00:05:11,835 --> 00:05:14,735 surprised at how fast this these innovations 141 00:05:15,115 --> 00:05:17,240 come up, and, you know, and how quickly 142 00:05:17,379 --> 00:05:19,639 things change and are implemented and, 143 00:05:20,660 --> 00:05:22,339 like you said, all the discoveries that are 144 00:05:22,339 --> 00:05:24,339 being made when it comes to cancer treatment 145 00:05:24,339 --> 00:05:25,000 and therapeutics. 146 00:05:25,699 --> 00:05:29,399 Have there been any specific achievements or specific 147 00:05:29,540 --> 00:05:32,415 progress made within the past six to 148 00:05:32,795 --> 00:05:35,835 eighteen months maybe that stand out most to 149 00:05:35,835 --> 00:05:36,335 you? 150 00:05:37,595 --> 00:05:38,095 Specifically, 151 00:05:38,395 --> 00:05:40,955 the BannerMD Anderson of Banner, you know, the 152 00:05:40,955 --> 00:05:43,754 achievements in the therapeutic is obviously how are 153 00:05:43,754 --> 00:05:45,694 we applying and and integrating 154 00:05:46,199 --> 00:05:48,360 a lot of these advancements is is, you 155 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,520 know, these are achievements that we're constantly kind 156 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,180 of pursuing 157 00:05:51,879 --> 00:05:53,800 specifically on how we kind of scale them 158 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,699 across different locations that we provide. We obviously 159 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,840 have a very large hub of cancer care 160 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:01,944 delivery that we have within our, system, but 161 00:06:01,944 --> 00:06:04,345 we obviously distribute that care. And so how 162 00:06:04,345 --> 00:06:07,064 are we distributing that and integrating that within 163 00:06:07,064 --> 00:06:09,324 the care delivery at different sites is obviously 164 00:06:09,865 --> 00:06:11,785 something that we're very focused on and but 165 00:06:11,785 --> 00:06:14,504 done a very exceptional job. Our experts, our 166 00:06:14,504 --> 00:06:15,004 physician 167 00:06:15,449 --> 00:06:18,750 experts obviously integrate their conversations in multidisciplinary 168 00:06:19,129 --> 00:06:21,129 fashion of doing that. So how we do 169 00:06:21,129 --> 00:06:22,729 that and how seamlessly we do that is 170 00:06:22,729 --> 00:06:25,050 such a great focus. And I think we've 171 00:06:25,050 --> 00:06:26,910 achieved quite a bit in that space 172 00:06:27,305 --> 00:06:29,545 given the fact that Arizona and Northern Colorado 173 00:06:29,545 --> 00:06:31,165 and the other areas that we serve, 174 00:06:31,705 --> 00:06:34,264 can be very expansive. And so our achievements 175 00:06:34,264 --> 00:06:36,584 is really creating that integrative team amongst our 176 00:06:36,584 --> 00:06:40,045 caregivers and our our experts, our physicians, subspecialists, 177 00:06:40,345 --> 00:06:42,740 and so forth has been really kind of 178 00:06:42,879 --> 00:06:44,480 an achievement that I think a lot of 179 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,120 programs probably envy just given the fact that 180 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,420 we really have that, 181 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,680 that model that really kinda supports that that 182 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,579 kind of conversation 183 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,740 and care delivery capability. 184 00:06:55,824 --> 00:06:57,185 So that's kind of a critical part of 185 00:06:57,185 --> 00:06:59,604 that. We also know that our research capabilities 186 00:06:59,824 --> 00:07:01,745 within the arm of oncology is such an 187 00:07:01,745 --> 00:07:04,224 important piece, and so we really kinda look 188 00:07:04,224 --> 00:07:05,824 at how we are scaling that. I think 189 00:07:05,824 --> 00:07:08,084 there's a great achievement that we've done exceptional, 190 00:07:09,629 --> 00:07:11,629 things within that space as well as we 191 00:07:11,629 --> 00:07:13,550 continue to grow that out. We have a 192 00:07:13,550 --> 00:07:15,089 very good relationship with 193 00:07:15,629 --> 00:07:17,009 the University of Arizona, 194 00:07:18,110 --> 00:07:20,350 which we are, as part of Banner Health, 195 00:07:20,350 --> 00:07:22,509 we obviously work very closely with our partner 196 00:07:22,509 --> 00:07:24,964 of MD Anderson in expanding that piece as 197 00:07:24,964 --> 00:07:27,605 well. So, obviously, continuing to build that and 198 00:07:27,605 --> 00:07:29,685 strengthen that across the sites that we care 199 00:07:29,685 --> 00:07:30,584 for has been, 200 00:07:31,044 --> 00:07:32,964 a great achievement, not just over the last 201 00:07:32,964 --> 00:07:34,805 six to eighteen months, but over the the 202 00:07:34,805 --> 00:07:37,285 time that we've been around. So, we're very 203 00:07:37,285 --> 00:07:39,449 fortunate in that space. And then I would 204 00:07:39,449 --> 00:07:40,970 probably say the other part of that is 205 00:07:40,970 --> 00:07:42,490 such a critical part to, 206 00:07:42,970 --> 00:07:43,470 our 207 00:07:44,330 --> 00:07:45,790 our ability to serve our 208 00:07:46,170 --> 00:07:48,089 our our communities and so forth is really 209 00:07:48,089 --> 00:07:50,110 having the right physician expertise. 210 00:07:50,490 --> 00:07:51,470 And we do, 211 00:07:52,104 --> 00:07:53,865 we feel like we have recruited over the 212 00:07:53,865 --> 00:07:56,345 last six to eighteen months some exceptional physicians 213 00:07:56,345 --> 00:07:58,584 that really provide that care and that we've 214 00:07:58,584 --> 00:08:00,344 been fortunate to have part of the team. 215 00:08:00,344 --> 00:08:02,344 So we continue to push on that, but 216 00:08:02,344 --> 00:08:04,104 we are very excited about what we've been 217 00:08:04,104 --> 00:08:06,610 able to to achieve through recruiting the right 218 00:08:06,610 --> 00:08:07,089 people, 219 00:08:07,490 --> 00:08:08,550 for the right care. 220 00:08:09,729 --> 00:08:12,610 And you you touched on recruitment here, and 221 00:08:12,610 --> 00:08:13,110 then 222 00:08:13,569 --> 00:08:14,069 also 223 00:08:14,610 --> 00:08:17,235 just the expanse of the different Banner Health 224 00:08:17,474 --> 00:08:20,454 sites, right, across state lines and and integrating 225 00:08:20,675 --> 00:08:21,175 care. 226 00:08:22,115 --> 00:08:24,435 I'd love to know, you know, what advice 227 00:08:24,435 --> 00:08:25,974 do you give to 228 00:08:26,594 --> 00:08:30,214 physicians or emerging leaders in the oncology space 229 00:08:30,819 --> 00:08:32,980 when it comes to, you know, making an 230 00:08:32,980 --> 00:08:35,320 impact in care or innovation, 231 00:08:35,779 --> 00:08:36,440 like research? 232 00:08:38,019 --> 00:08:40,100 You know, as you're recruiting, what kind of, 233 00:08:40,820 --> 00:08:44,179 tips and tricks and mindsets do you advise 234 00:08:44,179 --> 00:08:45,559 them on taking 235 00:08:46,794 --> 00:08:49,035 through their career? Yeah. No. It's a great 236 00:08:49,035 --> 00:08:51,115 question, and and I appreciate the question. I've 237 00:08:51,115 --> 00:08:53,514 been in on the oncology world for over 238 00:08:53,514 --> 00:08:54,735 twenty years, and 239 00:08:55,115 --> 00:08:55,615 and, 240 00:08:55,995 --> 00:08:59,274 I've recognized that the oncology ecosystem is very 241 00:08:59,274 --> 00:09:02,410 complex. But but the value of that complexity 242 00:09:02,470 --> 00:09:03,690 is that there is 243 00:09:04,149 --> 00:09:05,289 there are individuals 244 00:09:05,750 --> 00:09:07,769 and care team members and, 245 00:09:08,149 --> 00:09:08,649 alike 246 00:09:09,269 --> 00:09:11,269 that really care for what they do. And 247 00:09:11,269 --> 00:09:13,769 and coming together from an inter interdisciplinary 248 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:15,690 standpoint, a multidisciplinary 249 00:09:16,205 --> 00:09:16,705 standpoint 250 00:09:17,085 --> 00:09:19,184 is so important. So as a leader, 251 00:09:19,725 --> 00:09:21,325 I have felt like the most important thing 252 00:09:21,325 --> 00:09:22,384 is to understand 253 00:09:22,764 --> 00:09:24,384 the dynamics of that ecosystem 254 00:09:25,004 --> 00:09:27,585 intimately in the sense of understanding where everybody 255 00:09:27,644 --> 00:09:30,370 sees how things are connected, how they work, 256 00:09:30,370 --> 00:09:32,309 how they need to be supported in that. 257 00:09:32,529 --> 00:09:35,329 So really diving into understanding all the different 258 00:09:35,329 --> 00:09:36,709 parts of that ecosystem, 259 00:09:37,329 --> 00:09:39,570 I think, is very critical. And, obviously, we 260 00:09:39,570 --> 00:09:41,169 don't know all the details. I know my 261 00:09:41,169 --> 00:09:44,915 lane specifically as a as a administrative leader. 262 00:09:45,375 --> 00:09:46,975 I but I also know how I can 263 00:09:46,975 --> 00:09:49,934 potentially fit in supporting physicians and caregivers and 264 00:09:49,934 --> 00:09:51,315 providing the care. So 265 00:09:52,014 --> 00:09:53,875 building those relationships, asking, 266 00:09:56,549 --> 00:09:58,809 questions that really kinda push the thinking, 267 00:09:59,350 --> 00:10:02,149 trying to understand how and the services that 268 00:10:02,149 --> 00:10:04,230 they need and support they need, I think, 269 00:10:04,230 --> 00:10:06,330 is an important part of the leadership role. 270 00:10:06,789 --> 00:10:08,789 So you can help make those decisions. You 271 00:10:08,789 --> 00:10:10,629 can help make sure that you're partnering and 272 00:10:10,629 --> 00:10:12,090 you know the right people to 273 00:10:12,444 --> 00:10:14,764 to to bring along with you in the 274 00:10:14,764 --> 00:10:17,084 sport of building a program or strengthening what 275 00:10:17,084 --> 00:10:19,164 the capabilities of it may look like. So 276 00:10:19,164 --> 00:10:21,404 I think clearly getting into the weeds a 277 00:10:21,404 --> 00:10:23,725 little bit more, and understanding all the different 278 00:10:23,725 --> 00:10:25,404 parts is gonna be a critical part for 279 00:10:25,404 --> 00:10:26,304 any of the leaders 280 00:10:26,610 --> 00:10:29,190 and recognizing where you fit within that ecosystem 281 00:10:29,330 --> 00:10:30,789 is such an important part. 282 00:10:31,169 --> 00:10:33,350 And then I would also say that understanding 283 00:10:33,970 --> 00:10:36,210 how care is delivered and the innovations that 284 00:10:36,210 --> 00:10:38,070 we talked about a little bit earlier, like 285 00:10:38,210 --> 00:10:41,725 understanding how changes in therapeutic and technologies may 286 00:10:41,725 --> 00:10:42,625 influence that. 287 00:10:42,925 --> 00:10:45,485 Again, knowing and kind of recognizing how to 288 00:10:45,485 --> 00:10:48,365 have those conversations within this space is is 289 00:10:48,445 --> 00:10:51,165 has served me well. Again, just enough to 290 00:10:51,165 --> 00:10:53,325 ask questions that don't seem like I don't 291 00:10:53,325 --> 00:10:55,730 understand, but knowing that there's a limit to 292 00:10:55,730 --> 00:10:56,870 how much I can actually 293 00:10:57,170 --> 00:10:59,090 understand of that. I didn't go to that 294 00:10:59,090 --> 00:11:01,490 school, obviously. But I think those are critical 295 00:11:01,490 --> 00:11:04,050 parts for any leader within this space to 296 00:11:04,050 --> 00:11:05,730 understand both sides of it. If it's the 297 00:11:05,730 --> 00:11:09,190 physician, understand the administrative side, understand the finances, 298 00:11:09,410 --> 00:11:12,365 and and the HR can can needs and 299 00:11:12,365 --> 00:11:15,565 and and capabilities that support that from an 300 00:11:15,565 --> 00:11:18,365 administrative side. Again, understanding the clinical space as 301 00:11:18,365 --> 00:11:20,605 much as possible so you can make kind 302 00:11:20,605 --> 00:11:22,544 of a a collaborative discussion, 303 00:11:23,164 --> 00:11:25,105 or informed decisions that way. 304 00:11:26,090 --> 00:11:27,450 Thank you. Yeah. And I feel like that's 305 00:11:27,450 --> 00:11:29,290 such great advice, you know, for a leader 306 00:11:29,290 --> 00:11:32,250 in any specialty or any part of the 307 00:11:32,250 --> 00:11:34,889 health care industry. Right? Kind of balancing that 308 00:11:34,889 --> 00:11:36,429 administrative clinical mindset, 309 00:11:37,210 --> 00:11:39,769 and being there for your team. So appreciate 310 00:11:39,769 --> 00:11:40,509 you sharing 311 00:11:40,815 --> 00:11:42,195 your viewpoint on that. 312 00:11:42,735 --> 00:11:45,634 Whenever I speak to leaders in the oncology 313 00:11:45,774 --> 00:11:48,254 field, you know, I'm just so excited to 314 00:11:48,254 --> 00:11:50,654 hear about what's coming down the pipeline and 315 00:11:50,654 --> 00:11:53,215 and all the innovation that's being made. I 316 00:11:53,215 --> 00:11:55,134 always like to ask them what gives them 317 00:11:55,134 --> 00:11:58,029 hope, you know, about the future of cancer 318 00:11:58,029 --> 00:11:58,529 care, 319 00:11:58,909 --> 00:11:59,409 and 320 00:11:59,710 --> 00:12:01,009 what specific areas 321 00:12:01,470 --> 00:12:03,629 maybe are you focused on and excited about 322 00:12:03,629 --> 00:12:04,129 today? 323 00:12:05,470 --> 00:12:06,990 Well, as I mentioned a little bit about 324 00:12:06,990 --> 00:12:09,629 the trends, I I think the advancements in 325 00:12:09,629 --> 00:12:11,809 the types of therapeutics are being, 326 00:12:13,605 --> 00:12:17,144 designed and obviously researched and and developed 327 00:12:17,605 --> 00:12:18,904 offer a lot of hope 328 00:12:19,284 --> 00:12:22,105 to those fighting the diseases. It obviously helps 329 00:12:22,485 --> 00:12:24,504 our physicians and caregivers, 330 00:12:25,540 --> 00:12:28,420 offer new opportunities that never would was there 331 00:12:28,420 --> 00:12:30,420 in the past. So I'm I'm very excited 332 00:12:30,420 --> 00:12:33,779 about, obviously, what's happening with immunotherapies. And, again, 333 00:12:33,779 --> 00:12:36,259 as I mentioned, targeted therapies and just the 334 00:12:36,259 --> 00:12:40,125 advancements and new technologies of for surgical interventions 335 00:12:40,184 --> 00:12:42,205 and so forth have really kind of helped 336 00:12:42,424 --> 00:12:43,404 create opportunities 337 00:12:44,825 --> 00:12:47,144 to fight this disease and provide others that 338 00:12:47,144 --> 00:12:48,825 maybe in the past have not had that 339 00:12:48,825 --> 00:12:50,605 opportunity. So I think that's exciting. 340 00:12:51,149 --> 00:12:52,509 Of course, that comes with how do we 341 00:12:52,509 --> 00:12:54,269 leverage all that and how do we incorporate 342 00:12:54,269 --> 00:12:54,769 that 343 00:12:55,230 --> 00:12:57,949 in in an environment that obviously has a 344 00:12:57,949 --> 00:12:58,850 lot of payer, 345 00:12:59,470 --> 00:13:02,350 reimbursement challenges and cost issues. But I think 346 00:13:02,350 --> 00:13:04,029 it's exciting to be able to figure out 347 00:13:04,029 --> 00:13:05,730 how do we deploy those and and 348 00:13:09,845 --> 00:13:12,485 offer those within the ecosystem that I designed. 349 00:13:12,485 --> 00:13:14,245 So that's a very important part. I also 350 00:13:14,245 --> 00:13:16,565 feel like what's exciting is the amount of 351 00:13:16,565 --> 00:13:19,065 data that continues to be produced and developed. 352 00:13:19,205 --> 00:13:21,384 Obviously, AI is going to play an extremely 353 00:13:21,524 --> 00:13:24,329 important part, maybe breaking down that data in 354 00:13:24,329 --> 00:13:24,829 more, 355 00:13:25,610 --> 00:13:28,409 usable fashions that can really kinda help support 356 00:13:28,409 --> 00:13:30,669 decisions with not only clinically, but, 357 00:13:31,850 --> 00:13:32,350 operationally 358 00:13:32,730 --> 00:13:35,289 as well as, functionally. So I think those 359 00:13:35,289 --> 00:13:37,129 are really exciting things that we focus on 360 00:13:37,129 --> 00:13:40,154 quite heavily And, of course, how to provide 361 00:13:40,455 --> 00:13:41,674 coordinated care, 362 00:13:42,455 --> 00:13:44,214 is really exciting to me about how we 363 00:13:44,214 --> 00:13:45,975 can do that better, how we can advance 364 00:13:45,975 --> 00:13:48,294 that, especially with new technologies to to be 365 00:13:48,294 --> 00:13:50,695 supportive of care to patients in in the 366 00:13:50,695 --> 00:13:52,154 homes or in different sites 367 00:13:52,460 --> 00:13:54,799 that are very difficult for patients to receive 368 00:13:54,940 --> 00:13:57,100 really the optimal care. So I think those 369 00:13:57,100 --> 00:13:58,940 are exciting how we figure that out at 370 00:13:58,940 --> 00:14:01,179 Banner and how we continue to push that 371 00:14:01,179 --> 00:14:02,799 and deploy those types of capabilities, 372 00:14:03,740 --> 00:14:05,600 really kind of excite me every day. 373 00:14:07,304 --> 00:14:09,225 Awesome. Yeah. I love, you know, speaking to 374 00:14:09,225 --> 00:14:11,544 health care leaders and and hearing those consistent 375 00:14:11,544 --> 00:14:13,945 themes about what's exciting them, what the future 376 00:14:13,945 --> 00:14:16,745 looks like. So I appreciate you, you know, 377 00:14:16,745 --> 00:14:19,085 cluing us in on on the oncology space. 378 00:14:19,589 --> 00:14:21,029 And thank you for joining me on the 379 00:14:21,029 --> 00:14:23,350 podcast. It's, you know, been a really amazing 380 00:14:23,350 --> 00:14:25,750 and informative discussion. So thank you for your 381 00:14:25,750 --> 00:14:26,250 time. 382 00:14:26,950 --> 00:14:29,110 Well, thank you, Elizabeth. I appreciate it, and 383 00:14:29,110 --> 00:14:31,049 I appreciate Becker just inviting me. 384 00:14:31,524 --> 00:14:34,164 Absolutely. And I invite our listeners to tune 385 00:14:34,164 --> 00:14:36,745 in to more podcasts from Becker's Health Care 386 00:14:36,884 --> 00:14:41,445 by visiting our podcast page at beckershospitalreview.com. 387 00:14:41,445 --> 00:14:42,884 Thank you again. I hope you all have 388 00:14:42,884 --> 00:14:44,504 a wonderful rest of your day.