1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,199 Hello. This is Ariana Portallatin with the Becker's 2 00:00:03,199 --> 00:00:04,819 Dental and DSO review podcast. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,879 I'm thrilled to be joined today by Amanda 4 00:00:06,879 --> 00:00:09,919 Tebby, the chief operations officer at SOH Dental. 5 00:00:09,919 --> 00:00:11,439 Amanda, thank you so much for being here 6 00:00:11,439 --> 00:00:12,639 today. It's great to have you on our 7 00:00:12,639 --> 00:00:13,139 podcast. 8 00:00:14,655 --> 00:00:16,655 Thank you. Happy to be here. Yes. Of 9 00:00:16,655 --> 00:00:18,495 course. To start us off, can you introduce 10 00:00:18,495 --> 00:00:20,335 yourself or our listeners and tell us a 11 00:00:20,335 --> 00:00:21,554 little bit about your background? 12 00:00:22,494 --> 00:00:23,315 Yeah. Absolutely. 13 00:00:23,935 --> 00:00:26,350 Hello, everybody. My name is Amanda Tebbe. I'm 14 00:00:26,350 --> 00:00:29,230 the chief operations officer at Sodental, also known 15 00:00:29,230 --> 00:00:32,030 as SOH Dental. I oversee the field and 16 00:00:32,030 --> 00:00:34,850 the support operations team along with managing 17 00:00:35,390 --> 00:00:38,670 the company's strategic initiatives. Sodental is a DSO 18 00:00:38,670 --> 00:00:41,314 that's been in business since about 2018. 19 00:00:41,314 --> 00:00:44,375 We have about 40 locations across 11 states, 20 00:00:44,835 --> 00:00:46,754 with a mix of GP as well as 21 00:00:46,754 --> 00:00:49,475 specialty types of offices. We do about 80,000,000 22 00:00:49,475 --> 00:00:50,774 in revenue per year. 23 00:00:51,234 --> 00:00:53,795 Prior to prior to So, I actually worked 24 00:00:53,795 --> 00:00:55,890 as the director of ops services at Heartland 25 00:00:55,890 --> 00:00:57,809 Dental for about three years. Prior to that, 26 00:00:57,809 --> 00:00:59,509 I started my career after college 27 00:00:59,890 --> 00:01:03,250 at Patterson Technology Center, which I worked at 28 00:01:03,250 --> 00:01:04,849 for about six years in an array of 29 00:01:04,849 --> 00:01:06,069 different leadership roles, 30 00:01:07,145 --> 00:01:09,865 in different departments ranging from software development to 31 00:01:09,865 --> 00:01:12,105 call center management. That's a little bit about 32 00:01:12,105 --> 00:01:12,605 me. 33 00:01:13,145 --> 00:01:14,584 Great. Thank you so much for that. Great 34 00:01:14,584 --> 00:01:16,844 to hear about your your previous experience there. 35 00:01:17,064 --> 00:01:18,665 First question here for you. What are some 36 00:01:18,665 --> 00:01:20,584 of the biggest issues that you're following in 37 00:01:20,584 --> 00:01:22,284 the dental industry this year? 38 00:01:23,180 --> 00:01:25,280 I'm sure I'm not unique in my responses 39 00:01:25,340 --> 00:01:27,420 to this question, but something that is always 40 00:01:27,420 --> 00:01:30,400 on my mind operationally is staffing shortages, 41 00:01:30,700 --> 00:01:33,020 especially in the hygiene and deep dental assistant 42 00:01:33,020 --> 00:01:33,520 roles. 43 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:36,460 We've been lucky enough at So Dental to 44 00:01:36,460 --> 00:01:38,755 have really great retention for these roles, but 45 00:01:38,755 --> 00:01:41,155 I'm always looking to ensure we're staying on 46 00:01:41,155 --> 00:01:42,055 top of hiring 47 00:01:42,435 --> 00:01:44,515 and what's kind of trending, not only for 48 00:01:44,515 --> 00:01:46,594 these roles within our company data, but even 49 00:01:46,594 --> 00:01:47,734 comparing it outside, 50 00:01:48,755 --> 00:01:50,375 and just trends in general, 51 00:01:50,755 --> 00:01:51,599 within the industry. 52 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:55,119 Really looking at what does retention look like, 53 00:01:55,119 --> 00:01:57,459 what is salary trend showing us, bonus programs, 54 00:01:58,479 --> 00:01:59,700 is their comp in line with market, 55 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:02,180 and then just offering some flexibility, 56 00:02:03,439 --> 00:02:05,905 at the offices where it's possible. I think 57 00:02:05,905 --> 00:02:08,384 just really understanding what the employees are are 58 00:02:08,384 --> 00:02:10,164 wanting or what will continue to, 59 00:02:10,544 --> 00:02:13,344 keep job satisfaction up will help with retention 60 00:02:13,344 --> 00:02:16,224 there, which is just super important for our 61 00:02:16,224 --> 00:02:17,525 day to day business. 62 00:02:18,069 --> 00:02:18,889 I also think 63 00:02:19,189 --> 00:02:19,689 affordability 64 00:02:20,310 --> 00:02:22,870 of patient care and the insurance coverage gaps 65 00:02:22,870 --> 00:02:25,030 is key just in the dental market in 66 00:02:25,030 --> 00:02:28,090 general and then payer reimbursement trends along with, 67 00:02:29,110 --> 00:02:30,074 just payer 68 00:02:30,395 --> 00:02:32,875 payer issues in general and, is it an 69 00:02:32,875 --> 00:02:34,254 extremely important issue 70 00:02:34,555 --> 00:02:37,455 and something I'm constantly keeping my eye on, 71 00:02:37,995 --> 00:02:38,495 because 72 00:02:38,794 --> 00:02:40,634 it drives a lot of overall trends within 73 00:02:40,634 --> 00:02:41,294 the market. 74 00:02:42,549 --> 00:02:44,549 Interesting. Yeah. I know you talked about the, 75 00:02:45,590 --> 00:02:47,829 retention rate at Sodental. What do you think 76 00:02:47,829 --> 00:02:50,310 has led to that being successful at your 77 00:02:50,310 --> 00:02:50,810 organization? 78 00:02:51,590 --> 00:02:54,169 I think it's really it's really great culture, 79 00:02:54,229 --> 00:02:56,409 so I think that is extremely important, 80 00:02:57,675 --> 00:02:59,694 and not necessarily micromanaging 81 00:03:00,555 --> 00:03:01,055 or 82 00:03:01,435 --> 00:03:03,534 treating every office and situation 83 00:03:03,914 --> 00:03:06,074 as a cookie cutter approach. I I I 84 00:03:06,074 --> 00:03:08,074 do think every office is unique in that, 85 00:03:08,074 --> 00:03:11,114 but our retention are very impressive. We've had 86 00:03:11,114 --> 00:03:13,340 a lot of success in all roles. They're 87 00:03:13,340 --> 00:03:15,659 very much of amazing doctor as well as 88 00:03:15,659 --> 00:03:18,379 team as well as corporate retention overall. But 89 00:03:18,379 --> 00:03:20,060 I think in general, that has to do 90 00:03:20,060 --> 00:03:21,280 with leadership and culture. 91 00:03:22,219 --> 00:03:22,960 Okay. Great. 92 00:03:23,340 --> 00:03:25,044 And next question for you here. What are 93 00:03:25,044 --> 00:03:26,485 you most excited about when it comes to 94 00:03:26,485 --> 00:03:28,824 dentistry right now, and what makes you nervous? 95 00:03:30,004 --> 00:03:32,185 I'm most excited about, you know, the buzzword 96 00:03:32,245 --> 00:03:32,745 AI, 97 00:03:33,525 --> 00:03:34,665 and just new technology 98 00:03:35,044 --> 00:03:37,444 overall and how how that can improve the 99 00:03:37,444 --> 00:03:39,610 efficiency of our supported dental offices. 100 00:03:40,229 --> 00:03:41,990 I think it's easy for the team to 101 00:03:41,990 --> 00:03:44,250 get bogged down with the busy task oriented 102 00:03:44,310 --> 00:03:46,469 things that really just take away from them 103 00:03:46,469 --> 00:03:48,729 focusing on the patient experience at the offices. 104 00:03:49,349 --> 00:03:51,430 I feel AI can eliminate some of that 105 00:03:51,430 --> 00:03:54,150 busy work and really improve patient care and 106 00:03:54,150 --> 00:03:56,194 their overall experience at the dentist. 107 00:03:56,974 --> 00:03:58,034 I also feel like 108 00:03:58,335 --> 00:03:59,474 AI will help us, 109 00:03:59,935 --> 00:04:00,995 with centralizing 110 00:04:01,534 --> 00:04:02,034 centralizing 111 00:04:02,974 --> 00:04:03,474 things 112 00:04:03,775 --> 00:04:06,034 such as office AR, call center, 113 00:04:06,495 --> 00:04:07,555 just missed opportunities, 114 00:04:08,495 --> 00:04:09,474 insurance verification, 115 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,520 and just so much more even on the 116 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,439 compliance and the data side that we have 117 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:15,680 even yet to see. I'm just excited to 118 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,920 see really what's what's to come on this 119 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,759 and then how it will impact the industry 120 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:20,259 overall. 121 00:04:20,879 --> 00:04:23,115 I feel it is very easy to get 122 00:04:23,115 --> 00:04:25,435 excited about technology, but it I think the 123 00:04:25,435 --> 00:04:27,274 key is also making sure that there's an 124 00:04:27,274 --> 00:04:27,774 ROI, 125 00:04:28,235 --> 00:04:30,334 and it's actually adding to the business. 126 00:04:31,194 --> 00:04:33,194 It can really be an added expense if 127 00:04:33,194 --> 00:04:35,754 you don't evaluate it and really look at 128 00:04:35,754 --> 00:04:36,235 it, 129 00:04:36,919 --> 00:04:38,439 as to what what is it doing to 130 00:04:38,439 --> 00:04:41,079 the bottom line and is the team looking 131 00:04:41,079 --> 00:04:42,620 at it as a value add. 132 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,839 I'm really most nervous that we ensure that 133 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,919 the culture that we ensure our culture and 134 00:04:46,919 --> 00:04:48,939 teams feel good about the centralization 135 00:04:49,319 --> 00:04:49,819 efforts 136 00:04:50,125 --> 00:04:51,425 that we've been implementing, 137 00:04:51,964 --> 00:04:53,805 and they see it as a value add 138 00:04:53,805 --> 00:04:55,805 and and just not a replacement factor or 139 00:04:55,805 --> 00:04:58,365 more work in general. I I feel we're 140 00:04:58,365 --> 00:05:01,165 here to support them. And at Sodental, we 141 00:05:01,165 --> 00:05:02,764 are a people first company, so we want 142 00:05:02,845 --> 00:05:04,544 we wanna ensure that doesn't change. 143 00:05:06,310 --> 00:05:07,910 Some great points that you mentioned there. Thank 144 00:05:07,910 --> 00:05:10,069 you so much. Last question for you here. 145 00:05:10,069 --> 00:05:12,310 What will the most effective health care leaders 146 00:05:12,310 --> 00:05:14,069 need to be successful in the next two 147 00:05:14,069 --> 00:05:14,970 to three years? 148 00:05:15,830 --> 00:05:17,750 I think a big component of success is 149 00:05:17,750 --> 00:05:19,750 to focus on the team's culture and the 150 00:05:19,750 --> 00:05:22,605 people side to support the overall retention number. 151 00:05:22,605 --> 00:05:24,365 I think good retention solves a lot of 152 00:05:24,365 --> 00:05:27,564 issues, especially operational issues for most for most 153 00:05:27,564 --> 00:05:29,024 health care leaders in general. 154 00:05:30,045 --> 00:05:32,125 At so we we have a we have 155 00:05:32,125 --> 00:05:34,605 a culture and communications working group that meets 156 00:05:34,605 --> 00:05:35,105 regularly. 157 00:05:35,569 --> 00:05:37,170 It is a mix of just all different 158 00:05:37,170 --> 00:05:39,250 departments and voices within the company. I feel 159 00:05:39,250 --> 00:05:41,490 like this working group is focused on just 160 00:05:41,490 --> 00:05:44,790 creating initiatives that continue to support the retention, 161 00:05:44,930 --> 00:05:46,610 making the company a great place to work 162 00:05:46,610 --> 00:05:47,430 for the teams. 163 00:05:47,805 --> 00:05:50,705 It can be really anywhere from training, education, 164 00:05:51,084 --> 00:05:51,985 employee benefits, 165 00:05:52,685 --> 00:05:53,824 recognition efforts, 166 00:05:54,285 --> 00:05:57,404 mentoring, and building mentor mentor platforms, and just 167 00:05:57,404 --> 00:05:58,225 growing employees 168 00:05:58,845 --> 00:06:01,805 and building bench, not necessarily so focused on 169 00:06:01,805 --> 00:06:04,089 hiring from the outside, but also growing from 170 00:06:04,089 --> 00:06:06,649 the inside, which I think, again, makes people 171 00:06:06,649 --> 00:06:08,889 feel good about where they work. And and 172 00:06:08,889 --> 00:06:10,569 personal growth is important to a lot of 173 00:06:10,569 --> 00:06:13,050 people, especially high performers and and retaining those 174 00:06:13,050 --> 00:06:13,629 high performers. 175 00:06:14,329 --> 00:06:15,769 So I feel like at at so we 176 00:06:15,769 --> 00:06:19,225 truly believe that the saying culture eats strategy 177 00:06:19,225 --> 00:06:21,245 for breakfast is is absolutely true. 178 00:06:21,625 --> 00:06:23,944 I also think that the most effective health 179 00:06:23,944 --> 00:06:25,704 care leaders will need to focus on same 180 00:06:25,704 --> 00:06:26,204 office 181 00:06:26,584 --> 00:06:28,824 growth and really making sure that you're not 182 00:06:28,824 --> 00:06:31,404 only focused on acquiring offices or buying them, 183 00:06:31,490 --> 00:06:33,009 but that you can actually grow them and 184 00:06:33,009 --> 00:06:34,470 scale them after acquisition. 185 00:06:34,850 --> 00:06:36,069 It's not just about 186 00:06:36,689 --> 00:06:37,350 the maintaining 187 00:06:38,050 --> 00:06:40,449 what you bought, but it's act it's it's 188 00:06:40,449 --> 00:06:42,689 it's really building on top of that. I 189 00:06:42,689 --> 00:06:45,009 feel like there's diamonds really in everyone's backyard, 190 00:06:45,009 --> 00:06:46,935 and And I think the key is focusing 191 00:06:46,935 --> 00:06:50,074 on each office and what each office needs. 192 00:06:50,294 --> 00:06:53,334 It's not cookie cutter. It's really focused on 193 00:06:53,334 --> 00:06:55,675 creative thinking. I and I think just building 194 00:06:56,055 --> 00:06:56,954 our operational 195 00:06:57,819 --> 00:06:59,120 be able to create, 196 00:07:00,220 --> 00:07:01,680 amazing problem solving 197 00:07:02,060 --> 00:07:02,560 abilities 198 00:07:02,860 --> 00:07:05,360 as well as, just kind of seeing 199 00:07:05,740 --> 00:07:08,300 creative opportunities to solve issues that come with 200 00:07:08,300 --> 00:07:09,279 their day to day. 201 00:07:10,625 --> 00:07:12,865 Great. Well, thank you so much. That's all 202 00:07:12,865 --> 00:07:14,384 I have for you today, Amanda. Thanks for 203 00:07:14,384 --> 00:07:15,985 joining us. It's been a pleasure speaking with 204 00:07:15,985 --> 00:07:17,425 you, and I'm looking forward to connecting with 205 00:07:17,425 --> 00:07:18,485 you again in the future. 206 00:07:19,024 --> 00:07:21,105 Absolutely. Thank you. Have a great day. You 207 00:07:21,105 --> 00:07:22,564 too. Bye bye. Bye.