1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,399 Hello. This is Cameron Cortejano with the Becker's 2 00:00:02,399 --> 00:00:04,339 Dental and DSO review podcast. 3 00:00:04,799 --> 00:00:06,480 I'm thrilled to be joined today by doctor 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,439 Ancel Tucker, practice owner and clinical director at 5 00:00:09,439 --> 00:00:12,080 Aspen Dental. Doctor Tucker, thank you so much 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,139 for being here today. 7 00:00:13,585 --> 00:00:15,505 Yeah. Thank you for having me. And then 8 00:00:15,505 --> 00:00:16,945 just to start us off, can you just 9 00:00:16,945 --> 00:00:18,704 introduce yourself and and tell us a little 10 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:19,765 bit about your background? 11 00:00:20,385 --> 00:00:22,885 So once again, my name is Anchelle Tucker. 12 00:00:23,425 --> 00:00:24,804 I am a multipractice 13 00:00:25,184 --> 00:00:26,484 owner here in Virginia. 14 00:00:26,870 --> 00:00:28,710 I was born and raised in Las Vegas, 15 00:00:28,710 --> 00:00:29,210 Nevada, 16 00:00:29,990 --> 00:00:34,630 and I joined Aspen Dental back in 2022 17 00:00:34,630 --> 00:00:35,850 in Auburn, Massachusetts. 18 00:00:37,030 --> 00:00:39,929 I quickly became a clinical director in Worcester, 19 00:00:39,990 --> 00:00:40,490 Massachusetts. 20 00:00:42,064 --> 00:00:44,304 I've I've moved to Arizona with Aspen, and 21 00:00:44,304 --> 00:00:46,384 now I'm here in Virginia, and I am 22 00:00:46,384 --> 00:00:48,004 enjoying every bit of it. 23 00:00:48,625 --> 00:00:50,324 Awesome. Thank you so much for that. 24 00:00:50,625 --> 00:00:52,864 First question today, is just what are some 25 00:00:52,864 --> 00:00:54,004 of the biggest issues, 26 00:00:54,304 --> 00:00:56,784 that you're following in the dental industry so 27 00:00:56,784 --> 00:00:58,479 far in 2025? 28 00:00:58,479 --> 00:00:59,039 I know we're 29 00:00:59,679 --> 00:01:01,840 seems crazy, but coming up on on the 30 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:02,979 end of the year almost. 31 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,180 I know. The year is flying. I think 32 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,239 a few things that I'm noticing, and I 33 00:01:08,239 --> 00:01:10,900 don't wanna completely call them issues, right, 34 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,575 is just a 35 00:01:12,954 --> 00:01:13,774 very fast 36 00:01:14,234 --> 00:01:15,614 integration of technology. 37 00:01:17,034 --> 00:01:18,174 We're evolving 38 00:01:18,474 --> 00:01:19,215 and advancing 39 00:01:20,075 --> 00:01:21,215 at a rate that 40 00:01:21,754 --> 00:01:24,494 it's it can be difficult for certain practices 41 00:01:24,634 --> 00:01:26,730 to keep up with. I've had a lot 42 00:01:26,730 --> 00:01:28,990 of new patients, like, blown away, 43 00:01:29,530 --> 00:01:31,530 by the technologies that we have in the 44 00:01:31,530 --> 00:01:33,230 office. So I think that's 45 00:01:33,689 --> 00:01:35,770 one of the major things, like, when it 46 00:01:35,770 --> 00:01:38,670 comes to intraoral scanning and the digital dentures 47 00:01:38,810 --> 00:01:39,709 that we do. 48 00:01:40,375 --> 00:01:42,375 And sometimes it seems like we're just out 49 00:01:42,375 --> 00:01:42,954 of space 50 00:01:43,814 --> 00:01:45,415 for them. It's just like, well, what is 51 00:01:45,415 --> 00:01:47,674 this? I've never seen this before, which is 52 00:01:47,894 --> 00:01:49,814 which is really cool. And then I would 53 00:01:49,814 --> 00:01:50,314 say 54 00:01:50,775 --> 00:01:53,494 another thing that we notice quite a bit 55 00:01:53,494 --> 00:01:54,954 in our office is, 56 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,200 you know, as things evolve and technology is 57 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:58,700 constantly 58 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:00,060 advancing, 59 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:03,400 people still want, like, quality of care. They're 60 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,479 they're on the Internet. They're saying all these 61 00:02:05,479 --> 00:02:07,900 things, and they have very high expectations. 62 00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:09,659 So 63 00:02:10,394 --> 00:02:12,814 I think when they come, they really want 64 00:02:13,194 --> 00:02:15,055 a one stop shop. Like, 65 00:02:15,435 --> 00:02:17,514 they they don't wanna be referred out for 66 00:02:17,514 --> 00:02:18,814 things, which is 67 00:02:19,114 --> 00:02:21,594 awesome because we do have an endodontist on-site. 68 00:02:21,594 --> 00:02:24,099 We do have an oral surgeon on-site, but 69 00:02:24,099 --> 00:02:26,259 they're being referred in for those things, and 70 00:02:26,259 --> 00:02:28,099 then they just end up staying because they 71 00:02:28,099 --> 00:02:28,599 don't 72 00:02:29,060 --> 00:02:30,439 want to to be 73 00:02:30,979 --> 00:02:32,740 moved around so much. It's like, oh, I 74 00:02:32,740 --> 00:02:34,340 can come here. I can get my dentures. 75 00:02:34,340 --> 00:02:35,860 I can get my implants. I can see 76 00:02:35,860 --> 00:02:37,800 the oral surgeon. I can see the endodontist. 77 00:02:38,534 --> 00:02:39,034 So 78 00:02:39,495 --> 00:02:40,555 I think that's 79 00:02:41,094 --> 00:02:44,135 just something new that I'm I'm noticing. People 80 00:02:44,135 --> 00:02:45,754 want everything in one place 81 00:02:46,135 --> 00:02:46,794 as well. 82 00:02:47,895 --> 00:02:49,895 Yeah. I think that kinda all in one 83 00:02:49,895 --> 00:02:50,395 shop 84 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:53,270 kind of dental practice has definitely become a 85 00:02:53,270 --> 00:02:55,590 lot more prominent at least from what I've 86 00:02:55,590 --> 00:02:57,610 been seeing in the past couple of years. 87 00:02:58,150 --> 00:03:00,229 Something that I'm curious to get your thoughts 88 00:03:00,229 --> 00:03:02,069 on or Mhmm. What are some things that 89 00:03:02,069 --> 00:03:03,909 you're most excited about when it comes to 90 00:03:03,909 --> 00:03:05,925 dentistry right now, and what are some things 91 00:03:05,925 --> 00:03:07,764 that are making you maybe a little bit 92 00:03:07,764 --> 00:03:08,264 nervous? 93 00:03:09,205 --> 00:03:10,985 Well, I'm excited about mentorship 94 00:03:11,604 --> 00:03:14,485 always. Like, I think it's so important. I 95 00:03:14,485 --> 00:03:16,905 had people when I first joined the profession 96 00:03:16,965 --> 00:03:17,944 and even still 97 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,759 that really pour into me and make sure 98 00:03:20,759 --> 00:03:22,620 that I understand, you know, 99 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,439 the and I don't wanna call it old 100 00:03:24,439 --> 00:03:25,879 school, but, like, the old school way of 101 00:03:25,879 --> 00:03:27,580 doing things and and 102 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,299 just really making sure that I I'm understanding 103 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,739 the business and understanding 104 00:03:32,645 --> 00:03:34,805 quality patient care. So I think that it's 105 00:03:34,805 --> 00:03:36,185 important that we always 106 00:03:36,965 --> 00:03:39,764 reach back and and guide those coming in 107 00:03:39,764 --> 00:03:40,584 under us. 108 00:03:41,044 --> 00:03:42,724 So I'm very excited about that. I just 109 00:03:42,724 --> 00:03:45,125 hired a new doc, and, like, just sharing 110 00:03:45,125 --> 00:03:47,044 the knowledge that I have with her is 111 00:03:47,300 --> 00:03:48,819 has been a lot of fun and just 112 00:03:48,819 --> 00:03:51,219 seeing her kind of be a sponge and 113 00:03:51,219 --> 00:03:53,540 absorb these things. So I think that's always 114 00:03:53,540 --> 00:03:56,500 exciting, just watching the new classes come in 115 00:03:56,500 --> 00:03:59,219 and and being able to to pass certain 116 00:03:59,219 --> 00:04:00,120 things down. 117 00:04:00,855 --> 00:04:03,835 One thing that I am nervous about, 118 00:04:04,534 --> 00:04:06,715 if I'm being honest, I would say 119 00:04:07,895 --> 00:04:09,835 we're in the age of, like, just 120 00:04:10,694 --> 00:04:11,194 misinformation. 121 00:04:12,135 --> 00:04:15,175 Right? We have the Internet. Everybody has doctor 122 00:04:15,175 --> 00:04:15,675 Google. 123 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:18,720 We're we we've all seen on Facebook where 124 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,579 there are these magical mouth rinses and, you 125 00:04:23,199 --> 00:04:25,199 know, things of that nature. They're selling stuff 126 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:27,680 online that the people can glue into their 127 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:28,660 mouths. So 128 00:04:29,055 --> 00:04:31,555 that's one thing that makes me nervous because 129 00:04:31,615 --> 00:04:34,194 they've made, you know, certain parts of 130 00:04:34,654 --> 00:04:35,955 of dentistry just 131 00:04:36,415 --> 00:04:39,535 accessible by going online, buying certain things, and 132 00:04:39,535 --> 00:04:41,375 it can be a little dangerous for the 133 00:04:41,375 --> 00:04:41,875 patient. 134 00:04:42,569 --> 00:04:44,729 So, you know, as people have more access 135 00:04:44,729 --> 00:04:47,610 to the Internet, I'm definitely seeing a lot 136 00:04:47,610 --> 00:04:49,769 more of that instead of relying more so 137 00:04:49,769 --> 00:04:51,069 on their dental professionals. 138 00:04:52,490 --> 00:04:55,289 Yeah. I think that's really interesting and something 139 00:04:55,289 --> 00:04:57,389 that probably is going to continue, 140 00:04:58,305 --> 00:04:58,805 especially 141 00:04:59,345 --> 00:05:01,345 with AI and just the Internet in general, 142 00:05:01,345 --> 00:05:04,545 just continuing to have more access and information 143 00:05:04,545 --> 00:05:06,805 and all that kind of things. Yeah. Definitely. 144 00:05:07,425 --> 00:05:09,665 I know that Aspen has a pretty in-depth 145 00:05:09,665 --> 00:05:12,225 and expansive mentorship program. What are some of 146 00:05:12,225 --> 00:05:14,089 the things that you've learned, 147 00:05:14,870 --> 00:05:17,669 through being a mentor at Aspen that you've 148 00:05:17,669 --> 00:05:20,490 been able to apply, like, in your practices? 149 00:05:21,829 --> 00:05:22,969 I would say 150 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:24,729 how to 151 00:05:25,110 --> 00:05:27,209 communicate effectively with patients 152 00:05:28,074 --> 00:05:30,735 and just have more compassion for a situation, 153 00:05:31,435 --> 00:05:33,694 like, really listening and and 154 00:05:34,314 --> 00:05:35,774 giving the patient exactly 155 00:05:36,154 --> 00:05:38,875 what they need. Sometimes we can't give people 156 00:05:38,875 --> 00:05:40,930 what they want, but we're here to give 157 00:05:40,930 --> 00:05:42,849 them what they're what they need and and 158 00:05:42,849 --> 00:05:46,129 pour love and just show them respect and 159 00:05:46,129 --> 00:05:48,209 the respect of listening to them. I think 160 00:05:48,209 --> 00:05:49,430 that was passed down 161 00:05:49,810 --> 00:05:51,970 to me and just seeing my mentor do 162 00:05:51,970 --> 00:05:54,370 that and kinda really sit down with a 163 00:05:54,370 --> 00:05:56,725 patient and just, you know, be an ear, 164 00:05:56,725 --> 00:05:57,545 be a shoulder. 165 00:05:58,725 --> 00:06:00,264 So that's a huge one. 166 00:06:00,805 --> 00:06:01,464 And then 167 00:06:02,004 --> 00:06:05,605 just once again, providing that quality care, like, 168 00:06:05,605 --> 00:06:06,904 learning how to, 169 00:06:07,525 --> 00:06:10,245 you know, enhance my clinical skills, going to 170 00:06:10,245 --> 00:06:13,699 implant training through Aspen, going to surgical trainings 171 00:06:13,699 --> 00:06:14,519 through Aspen, 172 00:06:15,300 --> 00:06:17,479 even, like, clear liners, doing my orthodontic, 173 00:06:18,819 --> 00:06:20,039 training with Motto 174 00:06:20,339 --> 00:06:21,800 through Aspen. So 175 00:06:22,419 --> 00:06:25,514 those people who taught those classes, they've also 176 00:06:25,514 --> 00:06:26,975 been mentors to me, 177 00:06:27,275 --> 00:06:29,675 and now I'm able to pass that information 178 00:06:29,675 --> 00:06:31,995 along and also send my associate to those 179 00:06:31,995 --> 00:06:32,495 trainings. 180 00:06:33,595 --> 00:06:36,235 So, yeah, Aspen has been amazing as far 181 00:06:36,235 --> 00:06:36,735 as 182 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:37,930 mentorship 183 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:41,269 on both the clinical side and just the 184 00:06:41,269 --> 00:06:42,490 patient care side. 185 00:06:43,349 --> 00:06:45,430 Got it. Awesome. Yeah. And then just the 186 00:06:45,430 --> 00:06:47,909 last question, that we have for today is, 187 00:06:47,909 --> 00:06:50,069 in your view, what will the most effective 188 00:06:50,069 --> 00:06:51,449 health care leaders need 189 00:06:51,814 --> 00:06:53,574 in order to be successful over the next 190 00:06:53,574 --> 00:06:54,634 two to three years? 191 00:06:55,894 --> 00:06:58,074 I have a couple things. I think 192 00:06:58,454 --> 00:07:00,534 one thing that we kinda touched on earlier 193 00:07:00,534 --> 00:07:01,274 is just 194 00:07:01,735 --> 00:07:04,154 really being an early adopter of the technologies. 195 00:07:04,375 --> 00:07:06,294 You're gonna have to roll with the punches. 196 00:07:06,294 --> 00:07:07,435 You're gonna have to 197 00:07:07,789 --> 00:07:10,529 just constantly go to those CE courses 198 00:07:11,149 --> 00:07:13,550 and and keep improving and moving with the 199 00:07:13,550 --> 00:07:15,410 times in order to better ourselves, 200 00:07:16,430 --> 00:07:19,970 as clinicians and being effective health care leaders. 201 00:07:20,269 --> 00:07:22,254 And I think the second thing I also 202 00:07:22,254 --> 00:07:23,634 touched on is mentorship. 203 00:07:24,014 --> 00:07:26,175 You have to pour into the people coming 204 00:07:26,175 --> 00:07:26,995 behind you, 205 00:07:27,935 --> 00:07:30,415 and and sit back and and watch them 206 00:07:30,415 --> 00:07:32,175 and help guide them, and it and it 207 00:07:32,175 --> 00:07:34,995 really does protect the the profession long term. 208 00:07:35,490 --> 00:07:37,169 So I think we're just really gonna have 209 00:07:37,169 --> 00:07:39,490 to to reach back and continue to reach 210 00:07:39,490 --> 00:07:42,529 back and and educate each other and educate 211 00:07:42,529 --> 00:07:44,310 the people coming behind us. 212 00:07:45,329 --> 00:07:46,949 Awesome. Thank you so much. 213 00:07:47,410 --> 00:07:49,569 And thank you for joining us today, doctor 214 00:07:49,569 --> 00:07:52,334 Tucker, and and sharing your valuable expertise and 215 00:07:52,334 --> 00:07:52,834 insights 216 00:07:53,375 --> 00:07:55,474 into the dental space and dental industry. 217 00:07:56,095 --> 00:07:58,095 Been a pleasure speaking with you today, and 218 00:07:58,095 --> 00:08:00,175 I look forward to connecting with you again 219 00:08:00,175 --> 00:08:00,914 in the future. 220 00:08:01,214 --> 00:08:03,134 Yeah. Of course. Thank you for having me. 221 00:08:03,134 --> 00:08:04,274 I appreciate it.