1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,199 Hello. This is Ariana Porto Latin with the 2 00:00:03,199 --> 00:00:06,000 Becker's Dental and DSO review podcast. I'm thrilled 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,839 to be joined today by doctor Nick White 4 00:00:07,839 --> 00:00:10,880 of Blake Mary Pediatric Dentistry in Florida. Doctor 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,240 White, thank you so much for being here 6 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:12,740 today. 7 00:00:13,625 --> 00:00:15,084 Oh, thank you for having me. 8 00:00:15,384 --> 00:00:16,204 Yes. Definitely. 9 00:00:16,585 --> 00:00:18,184 To start us off, can you introduce yourself 10 00:00:18,184 --> 00:00:19,545 for our listeners and tell us a little 11 00:00:19,545 --> 00:00:20,524 bit about your background? 12 00:00:22,105 --> 00:00:24,105 Sure. My name is Nick White. I'm the 13 00:00:24,105 --> 00:00:26,425 owner of Lake Mary Pediatric Dentistry and Winter 14 00:00:26,425 --> 00:00:29,010 Park Pediatric Dentistry here in, Orlando, Florida. 15 00:00:29,969 --> 00:00:31,890 I've been in private practice for, 16 00:00:32,369 --> 00:00:34,070 twenty twenty years now. 17 00:00:34,929 --> 00:00:37,090 Graduate of University of Florida Dental School and 18 00:00:37,090 --> 00:00:40,689 the University of Florida, pediatric program, and also 19 00:00:40,689 --> 00:00:41,189 served, 20 00:00:41,570 --> 00:00:43,189 on the Florida Board of Dentistry. 21 00:00:44,524 --> 00:00:45,965 Great. Thank you so much for sharing a 22 00:00:45,965 --> 00:00:46,364 little bit, 23 00:00:46,844 --> 00:00:49,164 about yourself there. First question here, what are 24 00:00:49,164 --> 00:00:50,765 some of the biggest issues that you're following 25 00:00:50,765 --> 00:00:52,465 in the dental industry this year? 26 00:00:54,364 --> 00:00:55,744 This year, still, 27 00:00:56,364 --> 00:00:58,045 I I think a lot of docs are 28 00:00:58,045 --> 00:01:00,479 still dealing with staff, staff shortages, 29 00:01:01,020 --> 00:01:01,820 trying to find, 30 00:01:02,539 --> 00:01:03,280 good quality, 31 00:01:03,820 --> 00:01:04,319 assistance. 32 00:01:05,180 --> 00:01:07,900 Hygiene battles have have been waging where, 33 00:01:08,780 --> 00:01:11,099 dentists are kind of outbidding and bidding for 34 00:01:11,099 --> 00:01:13,500 great hygienists. So if anybody's looking for those, 35 00:01:13,500 --> 00:01:15,924 it it sometimes can be quite difficult. 36 00:01:16,784 --> 00:01:19,665 And, you know, everybody's been making, making rounds 37 00:01:19,665 --> 00:01:21,744 to try and address that shortage, but it's 38 00:01:21,744 --> 00:01:22,724 still an ongoing 39 00:01:23,504 --> 00:01:24,004 problem. 40 00:01:25,265 --> 00:01:26,484 We've also got, 41 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,959 you know, obviously, a big push for AI 42 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,459 and new technology in dentistry right now, 43 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,680 which is making significant gains through private practice 44 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:37,420 and DSOs, 45 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,119 alike. And it's, I think, a a kind 46 00:01:40,119 --> 00:01:41,399 of a tall task for a lot of 47 00:01:41,399 --> 00:01:43,064 people to navigate their way and 48 00:01:44,105 --> 00:01:47,385 find which programs, which, options for those really 49 00:01:47,385 --> 00:01:49,625 work best for their practice and for their, 50 00:01:50,025 --> 00:01:51,165 practice philosophy. 51 00:01:51,944 --> 00:01:54,665 And, you know, aside from that, there's different 52 00:01:54,665 --> 00:01:56,924 landscapes that are changing as far as licensure 53 00:01:57,145 --> 00:01:57,450 and, 54 00:01:58,009 --> 00:02:00,170 obviously, compacts and and things like that for 55 00:02:00,170 --> 00:02:02,189 interstate mobility for doctors and, 56 00:02:02,969 --> 00:02:06,409 concepts of minimally invasive care versus traditional care 57 00:02:06,409 --> 00:02:08,409 and those sorts of things. So there's quite 58 00:02:08,409 --> 00:02:10,250 a bit actually going on in dentistry right 59 00:02:10,250 --> 00:02:10,750 now. 60 00:02:11,854 --> 00:02:13,775 Yeah. Definitely agree with you there. There's so 61 00:02:13,775 --> 00:02:15,215 much going on right now, and I I 62 00:02:15,215 --> 00:02:16,894 know staffing in particular is such a critical 63 00:02:16,894 --> 00:02:18,735 issue facing the industry. So I did wanna 64 00:02:18,735 --> 00:02:20,674 discuss that and go a little bit deeper. 65 00:02:21,294 --> 00:02:22,735 Can you give us a little bit more 66 00:02:22,735 --> 00:02:25,074 insight as to how staffing shortages are 67 00:02:25,700 --> 00:02:27,080 affecting the Florida 68 00:02:27,860 --> 00:02:30,500 region, your practice in particular? Has there been 69 00:02:30,500 --> 00:02:32,260 anything that you've done differently at your practice 70 00:02:32,260 --> 00:02:33,240 to try to recruit 71 00:02:33,540 --> 00:02:34,520 more staff members? 72 00:02:36,900 --> 00:02:39,555 We, you know, we've always we've always taken 73 00:02:39,555 --> 00:02:41,974 pride in really treating our staff very well, 74 00:02:42,754 --> 00:02:45,094 whether it's through pay, whether it's through bonuses, 75 00:02:46,275 --> 00:02:48,754 whether it's through, just fun stuff that we 76 00:02:48,754 --> 00:02:50,835 do, in the office. You know, we have 77 00:02:50,835 --> 00:02:52,915 staff outings that we like to do. We 78 00:02:52,915 --> 00:02:54,840 take them to obviously, I'm lucky because I 79 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,639 live in Orlando. So we have, amazing theme 80 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,480 parks that we'll have some staff training days 81 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,000 at to to go have some fun, but 82 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,900 also pay attention to how certain theme parks 83 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,000 interact with their customers and try and bring 84 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,925 some of those concepts back to the office. 85 00:03:09,965 --> 00:03:11,824 Making sure the staff, you know, 86 00:03:12,365 --> 00:03:14,625 get, get in and out on time, 87 00:03:15,724 --> 00:03:17,885 you know, have a have a a a 88 00:03:17,885 --> 00:03:20,284 set lunchtime. We're not keeping them over, 89 00:03:21,004 --> 00:03:23,810 way past their their lunch hour, way past 90 00:03:23,810 --> 00:03:25,170 the end of the day hour. You know, 91 00:03:25,170 --> 00:03:26,770 a lot of my staff have families of 92 00:03:26,770 --> 00:03:28,129 their own and kids that they need to 93 00:03:28,129 --> 00:03:30,610 get to. So we we really take great 94 00:03:30,610 --> 00:03:33,730 pride in being a family oriented office and 95 00:03:33,730 --> 00:03:35,490 really making the staff feel like they're part 96 00:03:35,490 --> 00:03:37,189 of our our extended family. 97 00:03:37,784 --> 00:03:38,925 That's always helped. 98 00:03:39,384 --> 00:03:40,444 And then, obviously, 99 00:03:41,064 --> 00:03:42,584 it gets more competitive with, 100 00:03:43,224 --> 00:03:45,864 so many offices kind of fighting for a 101 00:03:45,864 --> 00:03:47,564 short number of staff that, 102 00:03:48,025 --> 00:03:50,584 it's really we've really seen a significant increase 103 00:03:50,584 --> 00:03:52,719 in Florida as far as pay scale goes 104 00:03:52,719 --> 00:03:54,419 for both assistants and hygienists. 105 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,280 Super interesting what you mentioned there, particularly about 106 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,120 the the theme parks. I know that's definitely 107 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,199 a perk of being in Florida. Definitely can't 108 00:04:03,199 --> 00:04:04,959 do that here in Chicago where I'm based 109 00:04:04,959 --> 00:04:06,580 on, but that would be great. 110 00:04:07,764 --> 00:04:08,805 Can you tell me a little bit more 111 00:04:08,805 --> 00:04:10,405 about that? I'd love to hear, like, what 112 00:04:10,405 --> 00:04:12,584 theme parks are you going to, how often, 113 00:04:12,805 --> 00:04:14,805 and what have you really taken as far 114 00:04:14,805 --> 00:04:17,225 as customer service at, those theme parks? 115 00:04:19,285 --> 00:04:22,019 Well, you know, Florida, obviously, we're blessed with 116 00:04:22,259 --> 00:04:24,740 two I mean, three really significant theme parks, 117 00:04:24,740 --> 00:04:26,259 but I think the two main ones, obviously, 118 00:04:26,259 --> 00:04:27,639 Disney and Universal. 119 00:04:28,819 --> 00:04:31,539 So we we've made a point. We've pretty 120 00:04:31,539 --> 00:04:32,919 much visited every, 121 00:04:33,459 --> 00:04:36,439 Disney and Universal Park with the staff, usually 122 00:04:36,579 --> 00:04:37,634 twice a year, 123 00:04:38,275 --> 00:04:39,955 once in the spring, once in the fall. 124 00:04:40,435 --> 00:04:40,935 And 125 00:04:41,395 --> 00:04:43,475 it's not just to go have fun. Believe 126 00:04:43,475 --> 00:04:44,835 me, we do go in there and have 127 00:04:44,835 --> 00:04:46,355 fun and and have a great time on 128 00:04:46,355 --> 00:04:48,194 on one of these days, but we also 129 00:04:48,194 --> 00:04:50,275 have specific instructions for them when they get 130 00:04:50,275 --> 00:04:53,254 to the park. And it's, paying attention to, 131 00:04:53,769 --> 00:04:55,449 you know, what do they notice when the 132 00:04:55,449 --> 00:04:57,050 staff is interacting with, 133 00:04:57,449 --> 00:04:59,930 some of the the customers or or park 134 00:04:59,930 --> 00:05:01,629 guests, and how do they 135 00:05:01,930 --> 00:05:02,750 deal with, 136 00:05:03,289 --> 00:05:05,769 somebody who's upset? How do they make somebody 137 00:05:05,769 --> 00:05:07,289 smile? How do they go out of their 138 00:05:07,289 --> 00:05:08,264 way to help, 139 00:05:09,064 --> 00:05:10,585 engage those those, 140 00:05:10,985 --> 00:05:13,305 park guests, and how can we do that 141 00:05:13,305 --> 00:05:15,465 back in our office? And we've had some 142 00:05:15,465 --> 00:05:16,365 really, really 143 00:05:16,824 --> 00:05:19,625 great feedback from parents as well, but also 144 00:05:19,625 --> 00:05:21,145 when the staff comes back and we sit 145 00:05:21,145 --> 00:05:22,745 down and we kind of discuss what we 146 00:05:22,745 --> 00:05:24,550 saw and what we learned from from those. 147 00:05:24,949 --> 00:05:26,569 And we've been able to implement, 148 00:05:27,990 --> 00:05:30,550 several of those kind of strategies in in 149 00:05:30,550 --> 00:05:32,410 our practice, and it's really paid off. 150 00:05:33,589 --> 00:05:34,970 Yes. Super interesting, 151 00:05:35,350 --> 00:05:37,670 just those tips there. I'm sure other dental 152 00:05:37,670 --> 00:05:39,750 practice owners, no matter where they are, can 153 00:05:39,750 --> 00:05:42,285 try to implement something very similar with staff 154 00:05:42,285 --> 00:05:43,504 outings and kind of 155 00:05:44,125 --> 00:05:44,625 really 156 00:05:45,324 --> 00:05:48,125 seeing what different businesses and different industries are 157 00:05:48,125 --> 00:05:49,884 doing as far as customer service and take 158 00:05:49,884 --> 00:05:51,725 those lessons back to the practice. So thank 159 00:05:51,725 --> 00:05:53,185 you so much for sharing that. 160 00:05:54,019 --> 00:05:55,860 Next question here. What are you most excited 161 00:05:55,860 --> 00:05:57,699 about when it comes to dentistry right now, 162 00:05:57,699 --> 00:05:59,300 and is there anything that makes you nervous 163 00:05:59,300 --> 00:06:00,120 about the industry? 164 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:04,660 You know, I'm I I like to see 165 00:06:05,060 --> 00:06:06,675 what I'm really excited about, I like to 166 00:06:06,675 --> 00:06:08,134 see a lot of the interdisciplinary 167 00:06:08,675 --> 00:06:11,794 approaches now where we're working a lot more 168 00:06:11,794 --> 00:06:13,974 closely with some of our medical colleagues, 169 00:06:14,594 --> 00:06:15,094 specifically, 170 00:06:15,474 --> 00:06:17,235 you know, in in my field with pedo 171 00:06:17,235 --> 00:06:18,454 and, ortho, 172 00:06:18,914 --> 00:06:19,814 a lot more 173 00:06:20,699 --> 00:06:21,199 ENT, 174 00:06:21,660 --> 00:06:22,959 and airway breathing, 175 00:06:25,899 --> 00:06:27,279 modalities and and, 176 00:06:27,660 --> 00:06:28,160 concepts, 177 00:06:29,099 --> 00:06:32,379 getting kids, you know, through these these, into 178 00:06:32,379 --> 00:06:34,699 these visits with ENTs and and looking and 179 00:06:34,699 --> 00:06:37,564 establishing these airways a lot, lot sooner than 180 00:06:37,564 --> 00:06:38,625 what we used to do. 181 00:06:39,245 --> 00:06:41,564 And, you know, I am excited about some 182 00:06:41,564 --> 00:06:44,125 of the AI and the diagnostic tools, that 183 00:06:44,125 --> 00:06:45,345 come along with that. 184 00:06:45,725 --> 00:06:47,485 With a caveat to that because I still 185 00:06:47,485 --> 00:06:50,539 think there's a a very strong focus for 186 00:06:50,539 --> 00:06:53,180 hands on, approach. You know? The the AI 187 00:06:53,180 --> 00:06:55,180 stuff is great, and it does help. It's 188 00:06:55,180 --> 00:06:57,180 a tool. It's one of your tools. But 189 00:06:57,180 --> 00:06:59,120 I still think there's a a significant 190 00:06:59,500 --> 00:07:01,519 need for hands on, 191 00:07:02,495 --> 00:07:04,334 hands in the mouth, hands on the patient, 192 00:07:04,654 --> 00:07:07,154 type of communication and and observation 193 00:07:07,854 --> 00:07:08,354 to, 194 00:07:09,294 --> 00:07:11,555 be combined with some of that new technology 195 00:07:11,694 --> 00:07:13,774 to help with your diagnosis and your treatment 196 00:07:13,774 --> 00:07:14,274 plans. 197 00:07:15,750 --> 00:07:17,750 Great. Thank you for for sharing your thoughts 198 00:07:17,750 --> 00:07:19,990 there. Last question for you here. What will 199 00:07:19,990 --> 00:07:21,990 the most effective health care leaders need to 200 00:07:21,990 --> 00:07:23,670 be successful in the next two to three 201 00:07:23,670 --> 00:07:24,170 years? 202 00:07:26,069 --> 00:07:28,250 They they need to be very 203 00:07:28,644 --> 00:07:29,144 adaptable 204 00:07:29,524 --> 00:07:31,384 to changing landscapes. So 205 00:07:31,844 --> 00:07:34,004 landscapes are changing left and right, back and 206 00:07:34,004 --> 00:07:36,164 forth all the time. You know, we've seen 207 00:07:36,164 --> 00:07:37,944 in the last few years a significant 208 00:07:38,245 --> 00:07:39,464 increase in, 209 00:07:40,164 --> 00:07:41,224 DSO consolidation 210 00:07:41,524 --> 00:07:44,129 from private practices going in with DSOs to 211 00:07:44,129 --> 00:07:47,009 DSOs consolidating with each other. And then we've 212 00:07:47,009 --> 00:07:49,009 seen a slowdown on some of that now. 213 00:07:49,490 --> 00:07:51,250 And I think we're kind of in one 214 00:07:51,250 --> 00:07:53,089 of those ebbs and flows where I think 215 00:07:53,089 --> 00:07:54,615 we might start to see a big, 216 00:07:55,095 --> 00:07:55,914 tick up 217 00:07:56,214 --> 00:07:58,555 with more consolidation here in the future. 218 00:07:59,254 --> 00:07:59,974 And I think, 219 00:08:01,175 --> 00:08:03,914 the the new health care health care leaders 220 00:08:03,974 --> 00:08:05,354 or or health care providers, 221 00:08:06,294 --> 00:08:07,595 really have to be 222 00:08:07,930 --> 00:08:10,490 willing to learn new techniques, but also not 223 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:12,990 give up on the tried and true methods 224 00:08:13,129 --> 00:08:15,449 of what dentistry has done in the past. 225 00:08:16,169 --> 00:08:18,409 You know, there's a a big push for 226 00:08:18,409 --> 00:08:19,789 some of the minimally invasive, 227 00:08:20,169 --> 00:08:22,009 treatment modalities, but we need to make sure 228 00:08:22,009 --> 00:08:24,415 these minimally invasive are not just, 229 00:08:24,875 --> 00:08:27,355 making life easier for the for the doctor. 230 00:08:27,355 --> 00:08:29,115 We wanna do what's best for our patients, 231 00:08:29,115 --> 00:08:31,035 and sometimes the old tried and true methods 232 00:08:31,035 --> 00:08:31,935 really work better, 233 00:08:32,315 --> 00:08:34,715 for those things. So making sure dentists are 234 00:08:34,715 --> 00:08:37,240 are not just relying on what's easiest for 235 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,240 them, what's really gonna be best for their 236 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:39,740 patients. 237 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,799 Well, thank you for sharing that. Well, that's 238 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:45,079 all I have for you today, doctor Wade. 239 00:08:45,079 --> 00:08:46,360 Thank you so much for joining us today. 240 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,579 It was a great conversation. 241 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:49,879 Definitely great to hear about what you're doing 242 00:08:49,879 --> 00:08:51,480 at your practice and the trends and issues 243 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,535 that you're following in the industry. So it's 244 00:08:53,535 --> 00:08:54,654 been a pleasure speaking with you, and I 245 00:08:54,654 --> 00:08:56,014 look forward to connecting with you again in 246 00:08:56,014 --> 00:08:57,075 the future. Thank you. 247 00:08:57,774 --> 00:08:59,235 Yeah. Thank you for having me.