1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,319 Hello. This is Arianna Porto Latin with the 2 00:00:02,319 --> 00:00:04,960 Becker's Dental and DSO review podcast. I'm thrilled 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,879 to be joined today by Christopher Bland, the 4 00:00:06,879 --> 00:00:09,679 chief operating officer and integrator at Positive Impact 5 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:11,839 Dental. Christopher, thank you so much for being 6 00:00:11,839 --> 00:00:14,400 here today. Oh, it's my pleasure. I'm excited 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,699 to have a quick conversation. 8 00:00:16,234 --> 00:00:18,074 Yes. We're excited to have you here. To 9 00:00:18,074 --> 00:00:19,594 start us off, can you introduce yourself for 10 00:00:19,594 --> 00:00:21,035 our listeners and tell us a little bit 11 00:00:21,035 --> 00:00:21,774 about your background? 12 00:00:22,314 --> 00:00:24,554 Sure. My name is Christopher. Like you said, 13 00:00:25,274 --> 00:00:28,494 chief operating officer at Positive Impact Dental Alliance. 14 00:00:28,954 --> 00:00:31,054 We've dropped the Alliance in the last year. 15 00:00:32,490 --> 00:00:34,170 Let's see. A little bit about my history 16 00:00:34,170 --> 00:00:36,490 is I spent about thirty years in the, 17 00:00:37,450 --> 00:00:39,549 in the medical space, in particular, 18 00:00:39,929 --> 00:00:40,429 optometry. 19 00:00:41,210 --> 00:00:43,609 Grew two of the largest optical chains in 20 00:00:43,609 --> 00:00:44,190 the country 21 00:00:44,884 --> 00:00:45,384 and, 22 00:00:46,164 --> 00:00:49,684 did some, few years of of growing, or 23 00:00:49,684 --> 00:00:52,344 starting a, men's primary health care. 24 00:00:53,125 --> 00:00:53,625 Unfortunately, 25 00:00:54,085 --> 00:00:54,585 that 26 00:00:55,125 --> 00:00:57,765 was COVID affected and and didn't quite get 27 00:00:57,765 --> 00:00:59,604 off the ground as as quick as we 28 00:00:59,604 --> 00:01:00,104 hoped. 29 00:01:01,100 --> 00:01:01,740 And then, 30 00:01:02,620 --> 00:01:03,899 here I am in the in the dental 31 00:01:03,899 --> 00:01:06,299 space, very similar to the optical, but very 32 00:01:06,299 --> 00:01:07,200 unique and 33 00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:09,040 super excited to be here. 34 00:01:09,659 --> 00:01:11,980 Great. Thank you so much for that. First 35 00:01:11,980 --> 00:01:13,420 question here. What are some of the biggest 36 00:01:13,420 --> 00:01:15,420 issues that you're following in the dental industry 37 00:01:15,420 --> 00:01:17,534 this year? Oh, you know, I think two 38 00:01:17,534 --> 00:01:19,454 of the biggest things we're really following right 39 00:01:19,454 --> 00:01:19,954 now 40 00:01:20,334 --> 00:01:22,094 is is and I think you always follow 41 00:01:22,094 --> 00:01:24,894 is is RCM and and and the AI 42 00:01:24,894 --> 00:01:25,394 that's 43 00:01:26,174 --> 00:01:29,640 associated with it. You know, can we collect 44 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,439 quicker, better, more, faster? You know, obviously, that's, 45 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,420 everybody's thing. And and then AI in general, 46 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,020 just how we can leverage, 47 00:01:37,799 --> 00:01:40,280 you know, from large language models to, 48 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,640 specific AI that helps with diagnosing and and 49 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:44,140 just 50 00:01:44,825 --> 00:01:47,224 phone answering. It's just the whole gamut is 51 00:01:47,224 --> 00:01:49,144 is probably one of the things we're we're 52 00:01:49,144 --> 00:01:51,004 we're we're early adopters here 53 00:01:51,305 --> 00:01:53,545 and like to just we're trying to stay 54 00:01:53,545 --> 00:01:55,305 on the forefront of what's happening in that 55 00:01:55,305 --> 00:01:56,125 AI space. 56 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:57,340 Great. 57 00:01:57,719 --> 00:01:59,799 And next question here. I'm curious to know 58 00:01:59,799 --> 00:02:01,239 what are you most excited about when it 59 00:02:01,239 --> 00:02:03,479 comes to dentistry right now, and what makes 60 00:02:03,479 --> 00:02:04,140 you nervous? 61 00:02:04,759 --> 00:02:06,519 You know, I'm I'm really excited about the 62 00:02:06,519 --> 00:02:08,360 white space and the opportunity for us to 63 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,955 grow. You know? And and, you know, very 64 00:02:10,955 --> 00:02:12,955 similar to the optical industry about ten years 65 00:02:12,955 --> 00:02:13,455 ago, 66 00:02:13,754 --> 00:02:15,615 I'm really excited about having 67 00:02:16,314 --> 00:02:18,335 being in a place to help 68 00:02:19,115 --> 00:02:20,094 doctors, dentists, 69 00:02:21,194 --> 00:02:21,990 have an exit, 70 00:02:23,189 --> 00:02:25,349 and that that's a that's a lucrative exit 71 00:02:25,349 --> 00:02:28,230 for themselves. So, you know, I'm really excited 72 00:02:28,230 --> 00:02:31,270 about that growth and and helping people towards 73 00:02:31,270 --> 00:02:33,510 the end of their career ready to sunset 74 00:02:33,510 --> 00:02:35,510 and do what they work their whole life 75 00:02:35,510 --> 00:02:37,094 to be able to go do, go play. 76 00:02:37,254 --> 00:02:37,754 And, 77 00:02:38,294 --> 00:02:40,134 and just having that you know, being the 78 00:02:40,134 --> 00:02:41,895 place and the opportunity for them to do 79 00:02:41,895 --> 00:02:43,915 that, that's that's really exciting for us, 80 00:02:44,534 --> 00:02:45,974 this year. And then, 81 00:02:46,935 --> 00:02:49,754 and then, you know, continuing our mission. 82 00:02:50,294 --> 00:02:52,395 What worries me about the dental space 83 00:02:52,969 --> 00:02:53,469 is, 84 00:02:54,330 --> 00:02:56,889 not much. Not much really. You know, we've 85 00:02:56,889 --> 00:02:57,710 got obviously, 86 00:02:58,169 --> 00:03:00,409 you know, some macro and economic things that 87 00:03:00,409 --> 00:03:02,270 that you always worry about, 88 00:03:02,969 --> 00:03:05,754 but it's it's it's kind of a an 89 00:03:05,754 --> 00:03:06,894 evergreen industry. 90 00:03:07,194 --> 00:03:09,194 You know, peep there's always gonna be people 91 00:03:09,194 --> 00:03:11,594 that need, you know, a positive impact in 92 00:03:11,594 --> 00:03:14,634 their life through through good dental dental health. 93 00:03:14,634 --> 00:03:15,134 And, 94 00:03:16,474 --> 00:03:17,995 but there is a worry there. It's like, 95 00:03:17,995 --> 00:03:19,754 how how how much do we have to 96 00:03:19,754 --> 00:03:20,814 modify to 97 00:03:21,180 --> 00:03:22,960 to keep up with, inflation 98 00:03:23,260 --> 00:03:24,719 and costs and, 99 00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:27,280 you know, and still be able to provide 100 00:03:27,419 --> 00:03:28,560 wonderful care. 101 00:03:29,580 --> 00:03:31,659 Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. That's something I hear a 102 00:03:31,659 --> 00:03:33,435 lot from executives is just this 103 00:03:33,995 --> 00:03:35,914 economic environment that we're currently in, a lot 104 00:03:35,914 --> 00:03:37,435 of back and forth, a lot of changes 105 00:03:37,435 --> 00:03:37,935 happening, 106 00:03:38,314 --> 00:03:39,935 you know, day to day, week to week. 107 00:03:39,995 --> 00:03:40,974 Are there any, 108 00:03:42,474 --> 00:03:45,914 changes or things that positive impact has sort 109 00:03:45,914 --> 00:03:47,375 of modified and adjusted 110 00:03:47,754 --> 00:03:48,495 to just 111 00:03:49,469 --> 00:03:49,969 remain 112 00:03:50,590 --> 00:03:52,509 sustainable, in this environment with all the changes 113 00:03:52,509 --> 00:03:53,250 going on? 114 00:03:54,110 --> 00:03:56,530 You know, I've I've been here since February, 115 00:03:56,590 --> 00:03:58,349 and one of the first things we really 116 00:03:58,349 --> 00:03:59,810 did was to sit down, 117 00:04:00,590 --> 00:04:02,049 with the executive team, 118 00:04:02,909 --> 00:04:04,049 and we spent 119 00:04:05,144 --> 00:04:06,685 two and a half days 120 00:04:06,985 --> 00:04:07,485 just 121 00:04:08,185 --> 00:04:11,465 fine tooth comb on expenses. You know? There's 122 00:04:11,465 --> 00:04:11,965 always 123 00:04:12,424 --> 00:04:14,664 especially in a DSO where we where we've 124 00:04:14,664 --> 00:04:15,724 got, you know, 125 00:04:16,504 --> 00:04:17,564 a bunch of offices, 126 00:04:18,430 --> 00:04:20,189 you know, trying to lean into what works 127 00:04:20,189 --> 00:04:22,349 best for them. But it was that it 128 00:04:22,349 --> 00:04:24,509 was it was that really deep dive on 129 00:04:24,509 --> 00:04:27,169 on, is this an expense that we need? 130 00:04:27,389 --> 00:04:29,229 Does it move the company forward? Does it 131 00:04:29,229 --> 00:04:31,389 meet our mission statement? Does it, you know, 132 00:04:31,389 --> 00:04:31,889 ultimately 133 00:04:32,430 --> 00:04:35,545 improve patient care? And so that was an 134 00:04:35,545 --> 00:04:36,845 exciting few days 135 00:04:37,225 --> 00:04:39,145 to just go through and and and and 136 00:04:39,145 --> 00:04:40,205 just strip away, 137 00:04:40,665 --> 00:04:42,764 you know, a lot of unnecessary expense. 138 00:04:43,384 --> 00:04:45,064 Yeah. Yeah. Super interesting there. Thank you for 139 00:04:45,064 --> 00:04:45,805 sharing that. 140 00:04:46,199 --> 00:04:47,879 Last question here. What will the most effective 141 00:04:47,879 --> 00:04:50,439 health care leaders need to be successful within 142 00:04:50,439 --> 00:04:51,740 the next two to three years? 143 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,360 Even more so on a macro level, but 144 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,639 let's just talk health care. 145 00:04:56,439 --> 00:04:57,899 It's going to be embracing 146 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,519 AI. I know that's an easy catchphrase. It's 147 00:05:00,519 --> 00:05:01,740 what everybody says, 148 00:05:02,144 --> 00:05:04,704 but, it it touches so many pieces of, 149 00:05:05,024 --> 00:05:06,564 of of business now, 150 00:05:07,264 --> 00:05:09,685 much more effectively than just a year ago. 151 00:05:10,464 --> 00:05:12,625 So it's really maybe not being an early 152 00:05:12,625 --> 00:05:14,805 adopter, but being aware 153 00:05:15,710 --> 00:05:17,949 and and getting up to speed on it, 154 00:05:17,949 --> 00:05:18,610 that is 155 00:05:19,470 --> 00:05:21,550 it's just got so much possibility out there 156 00:05:21,550 --> 00:05:23,230 that that if we not if we don't 157 00:05:23,230 --> 00:05:25,629 embrace AI, figure out how it works for 158 00:05:25,629 --> 00:05:26,610 our our companies, 159 00:05:27,150 --> 00:05:28,545 we're gonna get passed up. 160 00:05:28,944 --> 00:05:30,085 Right. Right. Definitely. 161 00:05:30,545 --> 00:05:32,705 And semi related question here. I know in 162 00:05:32,705 --> 00:05:34,324 the beginning, you talked about your background, 163 00:05:34,705 --> 00:05:36,944 working in health care, but maybe in some 164 00:05:36,944 --> 00:05:39,824 different fields, with primary care and optometry, I 165 00:05:39,824 --> 00:05:40,560 think it was. 166 00:05:40,959 --> 00:05:42,800 Are there any lessons or tips and tricks 167 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,040 that you take from those past experiences into 168 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,339 your work now in dentistry? 169 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,839 Yeah. You know, there's it's amazing how similar 170 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:50,500 they are 171 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:51,379 and 172 00:05:52,814 --> 00:05:53,314 how 173 00:05:54,175 --> 00:05:56,514 dentistry and this is just my take care. 174 00:05:56,895 --> 00:05:58,254 And may and and I have a very 175 00:05:58,254 --> 00:06:00,495 small skill, small data set, but, 176 00:06:01,295 --> 00:06:02,995 tend to make it very complicated 177 00:06:03,375 --> 00:06:05,759 when it's when when some of the business 178 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,600 things and some of the patient care, 179 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,939 protocols and all that can be very simple. 180 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:11,220 And and, 181 00:06:12,319 --> 00:06:14,000 you know, we went through that in the 182 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,420 optical industry and the optometric industry 183 00:06:16,879 --> 00:06:19,680 ten, fifteen years ago, and then the dental 184 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,875 industry is, you know, it's, 185 00:06:22,314 --> 00:06:23,694 the business side of it, 186 00:06:24,314 --> 00:06:25,935 we tend to make very complicated. 187 00:06:26,235 --> 00:06:29,375 And and, you know, the old KISS principle 188 00:06:29,514 --> 00:06:31,754 really will help this industry. And that that's 189 00:06:31,754 --> 00:06:33,274 kinda one of the things I'm I'm bringing 190 00:06:33,274 --> 00:06:33,774 here 191 00:06:34,180 --> 00:06:35,860 is, you know, we we can make this 192 00:06:35,860 --> 00:06:36,360 complicated 193 00:06:36,819 --> 00:06:37,639 or we can 194 00:06:37,939 --> 00:06:40,660 make it really simple and fun. You know? 195 00:06:40,660 --> 00:06:43,139 To me, simple is fun. So how do 196 00:06:43,139 --> 00:06:44,339 we make it fun? How do we keep 197 00:06:44,339 --> 00:06:45,079 it simple? 198 00:06:45,459 --> 00:06:45,959 And, 199 00:06:46,339 --> 00:06:48,685 that's that's, you know, blocking and tackling and 200 00:06:48,685 --> 00:06:50,264 the fundamentals will always 201 00:06:50,725 --> 00:06:52,345 will always give us a lift. 202 00:06:53,125 --> 00:06:55,305 Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Thank you for sharing that. 203 00:06:55,365 --> 00:06:56,564 Well, that is all I have for you 204 00:06:56,564 --> 00:06:58,404 today, Christopher. Thank you so much for joining 205 00:06:58,404 --> 00:06:59,925 us today. It's been a pleasure speaking with 206 00:06:59,925 --> 00:07:01,285 you, and I look forward to connecting with 207 00:07:01,285 --> 00:07:02,345 you again in the future. 208 00:07:02,847 --> 00:07:04,527 Hi. Thanks for having me. This has been 209 00:07:04,527 --> 00:07:06,767 enjoyable from my side too. Thank you so 210 00:07:06,767 --> 00:07:08,047 much. Enjoy the rest of your day. Bye 211 00:07:08,047 --> 00:07:08,867 bye. Thanks.