1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,240 Hello, everyone. This is Ariana Portolatin with the 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,799 Becker's Dental and DSR Review podcast. I'm thrilled 3 00:00:04,799 --> 00:00:06,819 to be joined today by doctor Bayless Sastry, 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:08,960 the CEO of teledentistry.com. 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,400 Doctor Sastry, thank you so much for being 6 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,679 here today. It's great to speak with you 7 00:00:11,679 --> 00:00:13,935 again. Oh my gosh. Ariana, thank you so 8 00:00:13,935 --> 00:00:16,175 much for inviting me, and, it's always a 9 00:00:16,175 --> 00:00:18,815 pleasure to to, you know, have these meetings 10 00:00:18,815 --> 00:00:20,574 with you and to be a returning guest, 11 00:00:20,574 --> 00:00:22,274 I might add. So thank you so much. 12 00:00:22,414 --> 00:00:24,300 Yes. Yes. We're always happy to have you. 13 00:00:24,460 --> 00:00:26,140 To start us off, can you introduce yourself 14 00:00:26,140 --> 00:00:27,579 to our listeners and tell us a little 15 00:00:27,579 --> 00:00:28,559 bit about your background? 16 00:00:29,099 --> 00:00:29,679 For sure. 17 00:00:30,379 --> 00:00:32,299 So for the folks who are listening, I 18 00:00:32,299 --> 00:00:35,039 am a dentist. I graduated from Boston University 19 00:00:35,100 --> 00:00:36,399 back in 02/2005. 20 00:00:36,859 --> 00:00:38,939 Shortly thereafter, I set up my own DSO 21 00:00:38,939 --> 00:00:39,840 in Las Vegas. 22 00:00:40,755 --> 00:00:43,315 Also set up an insurance brokerage firm, which 23 00:00:43,315 --> 00:00:45,554 was not looked upon very kindly by some 24 00:00:45,554 --> 00:00:47,395 folks in the area, but they soon enough 25 00:00:47,395 --> 00:00:49,395 understood that what I was doing was trying 26 00:00:49,395 --> 00:00:51,875 to send more patients to dental offices and 27 00:00:51,875 --> 00:00:53,175 improve access to care. 28 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,020 I sold that insurance brokerage firm and simultaneously 29 00:00:57,159 --> 00:00:59,260 then started up teledentistry.com 30 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,240 with the same mission, which was to, you 31 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,480 know, help improve access to care, albeit through 32 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:04,540 a virtual platform. 33 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,459 This was in 02/2017, 34 00:01:07,385 --> 00:01:07,885 and, 35 00:01:08,424 --> 00:01:09,145 it's been, 36 00:01:09,545 --> 00:01:11,545 nothing short of a roll roller coaster since 37 00:01:11,545 --> 00:01:12,344 then. And, 38 00:01:12,905 --> 00:01:15,064 now fast forward to 2025, 39 00:01:15,064 --> 00:01:18,844 we are now currently serving 90 insurance carriers 40 00:01:18,984 --> 00:01:19,469 plus 41 00:01:19,950 --> 00:01:20,430 and, 42 00:01:21,150 --> 00:01:23,790 providing services to approximately 150,000,000 43 00:01:23,790 --> 00:01:26,510 lives across The United States, insured lives. Thank 44 00:01:26,510 --> 00:01:27,650 you so much, Arianna. 45 00:01:28,109 --> 00:01:30,049 Great. Thank you so much for that intro. 46 00:01:30,590 --> 00:01:31,950 First question here. What are some of the 47 00:01:31,950 --> 00:01:33,549 biggest issues that you are following in the 48 00:01:33,549 --> 00:01:35,010 dental industry this year? 49 00:01:35,924 --> 00:01:36,665 I'm following 50 00:01:37,045 --> 00:01:37,944 several issues. 51 00:01:38,885 --> 00:01:41,385 Number one actually is the, 52 00:01:41,924 --> 00:01:42,424 removal 53 00:01:42,805 --> 00:01:44,965 of fluoride from public water, 54 00:01:45,364 --> 00:01:45,864 sources. 55 00:01:46,484 --> 00:01:48,484 That's a big one on my, 56 00:01:48,965 --> 00:01:49,465 radar. 57 00:01:49,844 --> 00:01:51,064 Next, we have, 58 00:01:51,979 --> 00:01:53,280 the changes to, 59 00:01:53,900 --> 00:01:55,840 Medicare Advantage and Medicaid 60 00:01:56,140 --> 00:01:59,200 through the one big beautiful bill act. 61 00:02:00,379 --> 00:02:00,879 Simultaneously, 62 00:02:01,340 --> 00:02:04,479 we have, the technology sector. We have 63 00:02:05,584 --> 00:02:07,685 players like Epic, which 64 00:02:08,384 --> 00:02:09,444 are getting 65 00:02:09,745 --> 00:02:10,564 very large 66 00:02:11,104 --> 00:02:14,384 and are seeming to, you know, take advantage 67 00:02:14,384 --> 00:02:17,104 of their ecosystem wherein they vet out who 68 00:02:17,104 --> 00:02:17,844 are the 69 00:02:19,259 --> 00:02:19,759 successful 70 00:02:20,139 --> 00:02:23,020 additions to their platform and then replicate and 71 00:02:23,020 --> 00:02:26,219 then leverage their distribution to create their own 72 00:02:26,219 --> 00:02:26,719 solution. 73 00:02:28,060 --> 00:02:30,000 And last but not least, provide licensing, 74 00:02:30,860 --> 00:02:31,360 with, 75 00:02:31,900 --> 00:02:32,379 the, 76 00:02:32,780 --> 00:02:33,280 compacts 77 00:02:33,585 --> 00:02:35,604 gaining steam, something very nice. 78 00:02:36,064 --> 00:02:38,145 That's what I'm look that that's that's, that's 79 00:02:38,145 --> 00:02:39,504 something very near and dear to me. And 80 00:02:39,504 --> 00:02:41,425 so I'm looking forward to seeing a lot 81 00:02:41,425 --> 00:02:42,944 of progress on that on that side of 82 00:02:42,944 --> 00:02:43,905 things as well. So 83 00:02:45,104 --> 00:02:47,560 Yeah. It seems like, you're paying attention to 84 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,800 many things that other dental leaders are following 85 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,099 right now at the same time. 86 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,039 I know Medicaid and the the one big 87 00:02:54,039 --> 00:02:55,959 beautiful bill is a big issue. Definitely, the 88 00:02:55,959 --> 00:02:57,659 removal of fluoride in in 89 00:02:58,039 --> 00:02:58,939 various states. 90 00:02:59,805 --> 00:03:01,485 Are you paying attention and kind of thinking 91 00:03:01,485 --> 00:03:03,665 about how those things will affect 92 00:03:03,965 --> 00:03:05,825 people's ability to access teledentistry? 93 00:03:07,165 --> 00:03:07,665 Yes. 94 00:03:08,284 --> 00:03:09,585 It with teledentistry, 95 00:03:10,365 --> 00:03:12,305 specifically as it relates to our business, 96 00:03:13,150 --> 00:03:15,230 you know, we got our big boost during 97 00:03:15,230 --> 00:03:17,969 the pandemic, obviously, with the dental office closures 98 00:03:18,270 --> 00:03:18,770 and, 99 00:03:19,469 --> 00:03:21,810 needing and and literally the nation 100 00:03:22,270 --> 00:03:23,330 needing a solution 101 00:03:24,110 --> 00:03:26,504 to help people who are having a dental 102 00:03:26,504 --> 00:03:29,245 emergency avoid the emergency room at that time. 103 00:03:29,705 --> 00:03:32,025 And, it was during that time that we 104 00:03:32,025 --> 00:03:33,145 got our big boost. 105 00:03:33,465 --> 00:03:36,604 Several insurance companies joined up on our platform. 106 00:03:37,145 --> 00:03:39,730 And now, obviously, thanks to that, that's where 107 00:03:39,730 --> 00:03:40,790 we are right now. 108 00:03:41,250 --> 00:03:42,389 Looking to the future, 109 00:03:42,930 --> 00:03:45,430 you know, not everybody has a dental emergency 110 00:03:45,569 --> 00:03:47,030 all the time. You know? 111 00:03:47,810 --> 00:03:48,790 We look at 112 00:03:49,090 --> 00:03:51,110 our business as an evolving 113 00:03:51,490 --> 00:03:51,990 model 114 00:03:52,584 --> 00:03:53,084 wherein 115 00:03:53,465 --> 00:03:56,104 it is a platform designed to help deliver 116 00:03:56,104 --> 00:03:59,564 care to patients wherever they are. You know? 117 00:03:59,944 --> 00:04:01,164 And that includes, 118 00:04:01,625 --> 00:04:05,064 preventative care and, other types of solutions that 119 00:04:05,064 --> 00:04:08,189 are allowed under the dental practice acts across 120 00:04:08,189 --> 00:04:08,770 the country. 121 00:04:09,629 --> 00:04:11,889 And so we very strictly adhere to those. 122 00:04:12,349 --> 00:04:14,129 And what we're finding is, 123 00:04:14,590 --> 00:04:15,090 that 124 00:04:15,469 --> 00:04:17,009 we are able to, in fact, 125 00:04:17,949 --> 00:04:21,629 provide preventative services to these members of of 126 00:04:21,629 --> 00:04:23,625 insurance companies and patients in turn 127 00:04:24,024 --> 00:04:24,524 and, 128 00:04:25,144 --> 00:04:27,384 effect on a lot of those types of 129 00:04:27,384 --> 00:04:29,704 things that are, you know, the hour of 130 00:04:29,704 --> 00:04:31,944 the need when you have such a strong 131 00:04:31,944 --> 00:04:32,444 voice, 132 00:04:33,625 --> 00:04:36,204 you know, removing fluoride from the public water 133 00:04:36,620 --> 00:04:39,659 and acknowledging, in fact, that there will be, 134 00:04:40,699 --> 00:04:43,259 accelerated dental disease because of this. It's a 135 00:04:43,259 --> 00:04:44,079 bit baffling, 136 00:04:46,139 --> 00:04:48,539 and it's all based on science that's not 137 00:04:48,539 --> 00:04:52,159 necessarily true or not necessarily proven 100%. 138 00:04:52,274 --> 00:04:54,354 But, nonetheless, a knee jerk reaction is being 139 00:04:54,354 --> 00:04:55,415 taken in this regard. 140 00:04:55,954 --> 00:04:58,274 So, we feel it's our responsibility as health 141 00:04:58,274 --> 00:04:58,935 care providers, 142 00:04:59,475 --> 00:05:01,555 and oral health care providers to step up 143 00:05:01,555 --> 00:05:03,254 and provide solutions that, 144 00:05:03,714 --> 00:05:05,714 will meet this need. So that's how we're 145 00:05:05,714 --> 00:05:07,975 pivoting our business. Not pivoting. We're adding, 146 00:05:08,410 --> 00:05:10,569 you know, service lines to our business that 147 00:05:10,569 --> 00:05:11,290 will help, 148 00:05:11,689 --> 00:05:13,470 in the preventative space as well. 149 00:05:14,170 --> 00:05:16,110 Great. Great to hear your thoughts there. 150 00:05:16,569 --> 00:05:18,250 Next question here. What are you most excited 151 00:05:18,250 --> 00:05:20,089 about when it comes to dentistry right now, 152 00:05:20,089 --> 00:05:21,389 and what makes you nervous? 153 00:05:22,564 --> 00:05:23,625 Well, you know, 154 00:05:24,725 --> 00:05:26,905 dentistry as a profession 155 00:05:28,324 --> 00:05:30,665 is reliant on the 156 00:05:31,205 --> 00:05:34,185 practitioner to be of sound mind and body. 157 00:05:34,449 --> 00:05:35,810 You know? And I can tell you as 158 00:05:35,810 --> 00:05:36,550 I'm aging, 159 00:05:37,490 --> 00:05:39,170 you know, your body does give out. You 160 00:05:39,170 --> 00:05:39,910 know? And, 161 00:05:40,689 --> 00:05:41,589 at some point, 162 00:05:41,889 --> 00:05:42,470 you know, 163 00:05:43,170 --> 00:05:45,730 you're not able to practice at that level 164 00:05:45,730 --> 00:05:47,889 of efficiency that you knew you could a 165 00:05:47,889 --> 00:05:49,589 few years prior. You know? 166 00:05:50,314 --> 00:05:53,055 I'm excited to see some of the advancements 167 00:05:53,514 --> 00:05:55,534 in AI and, 168 00:05:56,555 --> 00:05:57,534 augmented reality 169 00:05:57,914 --> 00:05:58,414 and, 170 00:05:59,834 --> 00:06:02,074 those sorts of techno the amalgamation of those 171 00:06:02,074 --> 00:06:03,214 technologies really 172 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,339 to 173 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,500 create new ways 174 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:07,620 for 175 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:08,500 practitioners 176 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,220 who want to practice 177 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,459 at the top of their game 178 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:17,439 and can now leverage these tools to be 179 00:06:17,439 --> 00:06:18,500 able to do so 180 00:06:19,705 --> 00:06:21,465 without additional stress on the body and mind. 181 00:06:21,465 --> 00:06:23,785 Would that make sense? You know? And I've 182 00:06:23,785 --> 00:06:25,785 seen some cool technologies coming out, like, where 183 00:06:25,785 --> 00:06:27,165 you can literally visualize 184 00:06:27,545 --> 00:06:29,004 the root canal anatomy, 185 00:06:30,185 --> 00:06:31,004 of a patient 186 00:06:31,545 --> 00:06:32,845 while they're in their chair 187 00:06:33,180 --> 00:06:34,560 using augmented reality. 188 00:06:34,860 --> 00:06:35,360 That's 189 00:06:35,740 --> 00:06:38,620 incredible to me. And, just a few years 190 00:06:38,620 --> 00:06:40,540 prior, this would not have been even possible 191 00:06:40,540 --> 00:06:42,459 to you couldn't even imagine this was possible, 192 00:06:42,459 --> 00:06:44,459 you know, let alone actually using it in 193 00:06:44,459 --> 00:06:46,604 the operatory. You know? And so these are 194 00:06:46,604 --> 00:06:48,365 the kinds of things that I find are 195 00:06:48,365 --> 00:06:48,865 extremely, 196 00:06:49,404 --> 00:06:49,904 exciting. 197 00:06:51,084 --> 00:06:53,104 Nervous. You know, there's always, 198 00:06:53,805 --> 00:06:54,305 concerns 199 00:06:54,685 --> 00:06:55,185 around, 200 00:06:56,685 --> 00:06:59,004 the practice of dentistry, the practice of health 201 00:06:59,004 --> 00:07:00,704 care as in as a whole. 202 00:07:01,139 --> 00:07:03,459 And, it again relates to the same thing, 203 00:07:03,459 --> 00:07:05,779 which is, you know, being being able to 204 00:07:05,779 --> 00:07:06,279 practice 205 00:07:06,899 --> 00:07:09,300 with sound mind and body and how you're 206 00:07:09,300 --> 00:07:11,479 able to deliver care in a meaningful way 207 00:07:11,699 --> 00:07:12,519 to patients 208 00:07:12,899 --> 00:07:13,399 as, 209 00:07:13,860 --> 00:07:15,399 their expectations evolve, 210 00:07:15,904 --> 00:07:17,365 which are continuously evolving, 211 00:07:18,064 --> 00:07:18,564 and, 212 00:07:19,425 --> 00:07:20,404 meeting the demand 213 00:07:21,185 --> 00:07:23,985 of those expectations in a cost effective manner. 214 00:07:23,985 --> 00:07:26,144 You know? That's the challenge. You know? Because 215 00:07:26,144 --> 00:07:28,724 this everything sounds great. You know? AI augmented 216 00:07:28,785 --> 00:07:30,479 reality and so on and so forth. Well, 217 00:07:30,479 --> 00:07:32,399 those companies are all valued at billions of 218 00:07:32,399 --> 00:07:33,459 dollars for a reason. 219 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:36,079 It's gonna cost a lot of money to 220 00:07:36,079 --> 00:07:38,259 deploy them. You know? And, 221 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:39,060 ultimately, 222 00:07:39,439 --> 00:07:41,439 sometimes patients, they just don't wanna pay for 223 00:07:41,439 --> 00:07:43,519 that kind of, you know, advancement. So that's 224 00:07:43,519 --> 00:07:45,060 where I think the rubber hits the road. 225 00:07:45,314 --> 00:07:47,814 And how does that all kind of combine 226 00:07:47,875 --> 00:07:49,634 in a way to make it so that 227 00:07:49,634 --> 00:07:50,455 there's effective 228 00:07:50,915 --> 00:07:53,475 health care being delivered in a cost effective 229 00:07:53,475 --> 00:07:53,975 manner 230 00:07:54,275 --> 00:07:57,154 that, helps the practitioner during during the different 231 00:07:57,154 --> 00:07:59,009 life stages that they go through as well. 232 00:07:59,970 --> 00:08:01,410 Interesting points that you make there. Thank you 233 00:08:01,410 --> 00:08:03,650 so much for sharing those. Our last question 234 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:05,889 here, what will the most effective healthcare leaders 235 00:08:05,889 --> 00:08:07,810 need to be successful in the next two 236 00:08:07,810 --> 00:08:08,629 to three years? 237 00:08:09,490 --> 00:08:11,970 Yeah. I think this this one is, rather 238 00:08:11,970 --> 00:08:13,970 obvious to those who are following the space. 239 00:08:13,970 --> 00:08:17,084 You know, it's it's all about leveraging 240 00:08:18,104 --> 00:08:19,164 the newer technologies, 241 00:08:19,625 --> 00:08:21,084 which has been, you know, 242 00:08:22,104 --> 00:08:23,384 the same thing we've been saying for the 243 00:08:23,384 --> 00:08:25,704 last ten, fifteen years. You know, there's always 244 00:08:25,704 --> 00:08:28,079 a new technology coming out. Now it's AI. 245 00:08:28,159 --> 00:08:28,740 You know? 246 00:08:29,599 --> 00:08:31,839 And, you know, if you I'm old enough 247 00:08:31,839 --> 00:08:33,360 to know that, you know, the the new 248 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,539 technology way back when was email. 249 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:37,860 And so, 250 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,399 as as we age and as we kinda 251 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:42,899 go through, these different, you know, 252 00:08:43,784 --> 00:08:44,684 eras of technological, 253 00:08:45,304 --> 00:08:45,804 evolution, 254 00:08:46,745 --> 00:08:48,445 it's important to note that 255 00:08:48,904 --> 00:08:49,964 health care leaders 256 00:08:50,345 --> 00:08:51,725 are dealing with 257 00:08:52,745 --> 00:08:53,245 doctors 258 00:08:54,184 --> 00:08:56,985 who right now are using a pen and 259 00:08:56,985 --> 00:08:59,164 paper to make scheduling decisions, 260 00:09:00,529 --> 00:09:03,190 all the way to somebody who's using AI 261 00:09:03,649 --> 00:09:06,049 and everything in between. You know? So how 262 00:09:06,049 --> 00:09:06,789 do you accommodate, 263 00:09:07,649 --> 00:09:09,350 you know, that range 264 00:09:10,049 --> 00:09:10,549 of 265 00:09:11,250 --> 00:09:13,909 health care provider along the way, you know, 266 00:09:15,565 --> 00:09:17,664 and provide them a safe 267 00:09:18,684 --> 00:09:21,004 mental space to work in. It's hard to 268 00:09:21,004 --> 00:09:23,804 do. You know? And and, you know, we're 269 00:09:24,044 --> 00:09:27,325 as as providers, as doctors, we're constantly being 270 00:09:27,325 --> 00:09:27,825 told 271 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,700 to level up our skill set, 272 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,179 level up, you know, our abilities, 273 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,879 in order to meet the demands of, you 274 00:09:35,879 --> 00:09:37,500 know, the market, so to speak. 275 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,419 It's hard to do. 276 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,095 You know? And as health care leaders, how 277 00:09:43,095 --> 00:09:45,014 do we make that easier? How do we 278 00:09:45,014 --> 00:09:47,254 make it so that the doctors who we 279 00:09:47,254 --> 00:09:48,794 are in charge of, the 280 00:09:49,095 --> 00:09:51,095 the the dental assistants that we're in charge 281 00:09:51,095 --> 00:09:51,995 of, the hygienist, 282 00:09:52,695 --> 00:09:53,914 everybody is 283 00:09:54,215 --> 00:09:54,715 on 284 00:09:55,540 --> 00:09:57,000 the same page as you and 285 00:09:58,100 --> 00:10:00,259 can actually work with you and the systems 286 00:10:00,259 --> 00:10:01,000 you're providing 287 00:10:01,620 --> 00:10:03,620 to make sure that the care that's being 288 00:10:03,620 --> 00:10:06,600 delivered is, again, effective and, you know, 289 00:10:07,460 --> 00:10:08,759 meets the patient's demands. 290 00:10:09,934 --> 00:10:11,774 Alright. Yeah. Thank you so much for sharing 291 00:10:11,774 --> 00:10:13,455 that. Well, that is all I have for 292 00:10:13,455 --> 00:10:15,054 you today, doctor Sastry. Thank you so much 293 00:10:15,054 --> 00:10:16,495 for joining us today. Great to speak with 294 00:10:16,495 --> 00:10:18,495 you again. It's been a pleasure speaking with 295 00:10:18,495 --> 00:10:20,095 you today, and I look forward to connecting 296 00:10:20,095 --> 00:10:22,254 with you again in the future. Thank you 297 00:10:22,254 --> 00:10:24,514 so much, Ariana. Real pleasure as always.