1 00:00:00,399 --> 00:00:02,879 Hello. This is Cameron Cortejano with the Becker's 2 00:00:02,879 --> 00:00:04,980 Dental and DSO review podcast. 3 00:00:05,599 --> 00:00:07,440 I'm thrilled to be joined today by doctor 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,199 Keith Kalas, CEO and dentist at SmileMakers Dental 5 00:00:11,199 --> 00:00:13,519 Center. Doctor Kalas, thank you so much for 6 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:14,419 being here today. 7 00:00:14,945 --> 00:00:15,764 Thank you, Cameron. 8 00:00:16,144 --> 00:00:17,904 Just to start us off, can you introduce 9 00:00:17,904 --> 00:00:19,744 yourself and tell us a little bit about 10 00:00:19,744 --> 00:00:20,404 your background? 11 00:00:20,785 --> 00:00:21,285 Sure. 12 00:00:22,144 --> 00:00:24,644 First, I would like to thank you, Cameron. 13 00:00:25,265 --> 00:00:27,664 I am thankful and grateful to you and 14 00:00:27,664 --> 00:00:28,164 to 15 00:00:28,609 --> 00:00:31,269 Biggers Health for giving me this opportunity. 16 00:00:32,850 --> 00:00:34,229 I am Keith Gowas, 17 00:00:34,690 --> 00:00:37,190 founder and CEO of SmileMakers 18 00:00:37,729 --> 00:00:38,630 Dental Center. 19 00:00:39,490 --> 00:00:41,990 SmileMakers Dental Center is an emerging 20 00:00:42,844 --> 00:00:43,825 dental organization 21 00:00:44,604 --> 00:00:45,664 of six locations 22 00:00:46,125 --> 00:00:46,625 throughout 23 00:00:47,484 --> 00:00:48,465 Northern Virginia, 24 00:00:49,484 --> 00:00:51,744 providing general and specialty dentistry. 25 00:00:52,284 --> 00:00:55,564 We have general dentist and specialist covering all 26 00:00:55,564 --> 00:00:56,625 dental services. 27 00:00:57,490 --> 00:00:58,230 At the 28 00:00:58,609 --> 00:01:01,590 moment, beside we are focusing on vertical 29 00:01:01,890 --> 00:01:04,230 growth for the current locations, 30 00:01:05,010 --> 00:01:06,790 we are in growth mode, 31 00:01:07,329 --> 00:01:08,310 searching for 32 00:01:08,689 --> 00:01:11,349 fit dental practices to acquire 33 00:01:12,394 --> 00:01:14,655 through the state of Virginia at this point. 34 00:01:16,155 --> 00:01:16,894 My background, 35 00:01:17,435 --> 00:01:18,575 I'm a general dentist, 36 00:01:18,875 --> 00:01:21,854 been in private practice for over thirty years. 37 00:01:22,715 --> 00:01:25,134 Beside being CEO of SmileMakers, 38 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,939 I am chief dental officer of the organization 39 00:01:30,359 --> 00:01:31,659 where I set 40 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:32,780 the systems, 41 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,219 the processes 42 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,219 for all clinical 43 00:01:37,159 --> 00:01:37,659 practices. 44 00:01:38,375 --> 00:01:39,995 Same time, I'm, mentoring 45 00:01:40,375 --> 00:01:43,034 the associate dentist in the organization, 46 00:01:44,135 --> 00:01:46,715 helping them to reach their best 47 00:01:47,575 --> 00:01:48,075 level 48 00:01:48,375 --> 00:01:49,674 of clinical skills, 49 00:01:50,055 --> 00:01:50,555 leadership 50 00:01:51,015 --> 00:01:51,515 effectiveness, 51 00:01:52,469 --> 00:01:53,689 and financial growth 52 00:01:54,069 --> 00:01:57,049 by utilizing systems based on best practices, 53 00:01:57,829 --> 00:01:58,329 benchmarking, 54 00:01:59,510 --> 00:02:02,010 quality control, and six sigma. 55 00:02:02,310 --> 00:02:04,070 And same time as a CEO, I work 56 00:02:04,070 --> 00:02:06,090 closely with leadership team 57 00:02:07,025 --> 00:02:09,044 and leaders throughout the organization 58 00:02:09,665 --> 00:02:10,884 to create systems 59 00:02:11,425 --> 00:02:12,485 and make 60 00:02:12,784 --> 00:02:14,724 all the system work flawlessly. 61 00:02:15,665 --> 00:02:17,365 Awesome. Thanks for that. 62 00:02:17,745 --> 00:02:19,425 As we're almost a third of the way 63 00:02:19,425 --> 00:02:20,784 through 2025, 64 00:02:20,784 --> 00:02:23,329 what are some of the biggest issues in 65 00:02:23,329 --> 00:02:26,530 dentistry that you've been following through the first 66 00:02:26,530 --> 00:02:28,389 couple of months, and and what issues 67 00:02:28,930 --> 00:02:30,129 are you giving an eye on for the 68 00:02:30,129 --> 00:02:32,449 rest of the year? As I said, I 69 00:02:32,449 --> 00:02:33,189 am a 70 00:02:33,650 --> 00:02:34,150 dental 71 00:02:35,055 --> 00:02:37,694 officer for the organization, and I am a 72 00:02:37,694 --> 00:02:38,995 CEO. So as a, 73 00:02:39,615 --> 00:02:43,294 the dental officer, the way, I see, things 74 00:02:43,294 --> 00:02:44,354 that I want 75 00:02:45,935 --> 00:02:47,074 the old procedure 76 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:48,460 to 77 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,620 be in the best way for patients 78 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,379 and making also all my associate to go 79 00:02:54,439 --> 00:02:54,939 through 80 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:56,219 a systems 81 00:02:56,759 --> 00:02:57,259 of 82 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,180 making those procedures, 83 00:02:59,479 --> 00:03:00,780 making the right diagnosis. 84 00:03:01,694 --> 00:03:04,435 So in order to do that so following 85 00:03:04,574 --> 00:03:05,074 all 86 00:03:05,455 --> 00:03:05,955 technologies 87 00:03:06,574 --> 00:03:09,935 and adopt those technologies from the AI, digital 88 00:03:09,935 --> 00:03:11,474 scanning, three d printing 89 00:03:12,574 --> 00:03:14,354 that lead to comprehensive 90 00:03:14,655 --> 00:03:15,634 treatment planning. 91 00:03:16,810 --> 00:03:17,769 And same time, 92 00:03:18,489 --> 00:03:20,189 we want to provide 93 00:03:20,650 --> 00:03:22,509 the most sophisticated treatment. 94 00:03:23,049 --> 00:03:24,569 So this is from one side. The other 95 00:03:24,569 --> 00:03:27,549 side as a CEO, so following multiple issues. 96 00:03:28,674 --> 00:03:30,694 One of the most 97 00:03:31,155 --> 00:03:33,254 important issues that all 98 00:03:33,555 --> 00:03:36,694 dental practices suffering from now is the staffing 99 00:03:36,754 --> 00:03:39,414 shortage from dental assistant to hygienist 100 00:03:40,194 --> 00:03:41,495 to quality dentist. 101 00:03:42,754 --> 00:03:43,254 So 102 00:03:43,909 --> 00:03:46,709 looking for that and making programs how we 103 00:03:46,709 --> 00:03:48,330 can attract the 104 00:03:48,949 --> 00:03:49,449 talents, 105 00:03:49,750 --> 00:03:52,330 develop them, making them working 106 00:03:53,030 --> 00:03:54,810 beautifully in in our organization. 107 00:03:56,884 --> 00:03:58,745 Same time, I'm following with 108 00:03:59,044 --> 00:04:00,745 global and local economy 109 00:04:01,044 --> 00:04:02,664 and how this is gonna be 110 00:04:03,205 --> 00:04:04,504 an effect on 111 00:04:05,284 --> 00:04:05,784 rising 112 00:04:07,205 --> 00:04:07,864 the overhead 113 00:04:09,290 --> 00:04:09,790 cost. 114 00:04:10,969 --> 00:04:12,189 Same time, I'm, 115 00:04:12,730 --> 00:04:13,710 following the, 116 00:04:14,409 --> 00:04:15,150 the insurance 117 00:04:15,450 --> 00:04:15,950 reimbursement 118 00:04:17,209 --> 00:04:17,709 cost 119 00:04:18,810 --> 00:04:19,949 that is not 120 00:04:21,615 --> 00:04:24,754 getting any more. That's been maybe for 121 00:04:25,295 --> 00:04:29,314 thirty, forty, fifty years, the same. That low 122 00:04:30,254 --> 00:04:30,754 yearly 123 00:04:31,615 --> 00:04:32,115 amount 124 00:04:32,735 --> 00:04:35,235 benefits is not getting any more, 125 00:04:36,269 --> 00:04:38,349 and this is getting all always a concern 126 00:04:38,349 --> 00:04:39,729 for all dental practices. 127 00:04:40,669 --> 00:04:41,709 And then I'm, 128 00:04:42,349 --> 00:04:44,209 also following the interest rate, 129 00:04:44,990 --> 00:04:48,029 and this is very essential to, 130 00:04:48,430 --> 00:04:49,970 acquire any new practices. 131 00:04:51,665 --> 00:04:53,605 And as emerging, 132 00:04:54,865 --> 00:04:55,764 dental organization 133 00:04:56,785 --> 00:04:57,925 looking for 134 00:04:58,305 --> 00:05:00,884 more practices to acquire, so also 135 00:05:01,425 --> 00:05:02,485 I am following 136 00:05:02,865 --> 00:05:04,004 the big DSOs 137 00:05:04,785 --> 00:05:05,285 activities, 138 00:05:06,699 --> 00:05:07,419 and their, 139 00:05:08,540 --> 00:05:09,759 way of finding, 140 00:05:10,379 --> 00:05:10,879 expanding, 141 00:05:11,339 --> 00:05:12,639 or just 142 00:05:13,339 --> 00:05:13,839 being 143 00:05:15,019 --> 00:05:15,519 in 144 00:05:16,220 --> 00:05:17,019 in a just, 145 00:05:17,819 --> 00:05:19,360 mode of vertical 146 00:05:19,805 --> 00:05:20,944 growth versus 147 00:05:21,245 --> 00:05:22,464 acquiring more locations. 148 00:05:24,125 --> 00:05:26,125 And finally that, I'm always, 149 00:05:26,524 --> 00:05:27,024 following, 150 00:05:27,485 --> 00:05:29,745 my leadership team, how we can 151 00:05:30,204 --> 00:05:31,264 adopt new 152 00:05:32,300 --> 00:05:32,800 systems 153 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:34,560 using technologies 154 00:05:35,579 --> 00:05:36,399 based on 155 00:05:36,860 --> 00:05:39,680 data and how we put it together in 156 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:42,160 getting all of our systems 157 00:05:42,539 --> 00:05:44,879 and processes in a better way. 158 00:05:45,644 --> 00:05:47,724 Yeah. Definitely. I think those are all topics 159 00:05:47,724 --> 00:05:50,365 that I'm hearing other other leaders in in 160 00:05:50,365 --> 00:05:52,524 the space kinda following and talking about as 161 00:05:52,524 --> 00:05:53,024 well. 162 00:05:54,524 --> 00:05:56,845 Something that I'm curious to get your thoughts 163 00:05:56,845 --> 00:05:59,230 on are what are you most excited about 164 00:05:59,230 --> 00:06:01,490 when it comes to dentistry right now, and 165 00:06:01,550 --> 00:06:03,230 what are some things that are making you 166 00:06:03,230 --> 00:06:04,050 a little nervous? 167 00:06:04,830 --> 00:06:07,090 So when it comes to excitement, 168 00:06:07,870 --> 00:06:11,069 I am very excited about the future of 169 00:06:11,069 --> 00:06:11,569 dentistry. 170 00:06:12,555 --> 00:06:14,175 I think we are coming into, 171 00:06:14,875 --> 00:06:16,335 the best time yet. 172 00:06:16,795 --> 00:06:18,175 And this is when my, 173 00:06:18,555 --> 00:06:21,595 younger son came and said, dad, I wanna 174 00:06:21,595 --> 00:06:23,835 go to dental school. I said, this is 175 00:06:23,835 --> 00:06:26,014 the way you do it, Richie. This is 176 00:06:26,889 --> 00:06:28,649 I see a great future. And, 177 00:06:29,930 --> 00:06:30,669 I see 178 00:06:31,129 --> 00:06:34,509 dentistry is gonna be changing more and more 179 00:06:34,810 --> 00:06:35,310 from 180 00:06:35,769 --> 00:06:36,269 an 181 00:06:36,649 --> 00:06:37,149 art 182 00:06:37,689 --> 00:06:40,430 based on science to science based on technology. 183 00:06:41,404 --> 00:06:43,105 So right now with those 184 00:06:44,285 --> 00:06:44,785 AI 185 00:06:45,404 --> 00:06:47,185 X rays diagnosis help, 186 00:06:47,964 --> 00:06:48,704 we can 187 00:06:49,084 --> 00:06:50,225 just discover 188 00:06:51,004 --> 00:06:53,745 30 some softwares gives you 30 189 00:06:54,269 --> 00:06:57,649 different dental conditions. Some others gives you maybe, 190 00:06:58,269 --> 00:06:58,769 60 191 00:06:59,230 --> 00:07:00,769 different dental conditions. 192 00:07:01,470 --> 00:07:01,970 So 193 00:07:02,350 --> 00:07:03,329 we can develop 194 00:07:03,790 --> 00:07:04,290 more 195 00:07:04,910 --> 00:07:05,410 accuracy. 196 00:07:06,605 --> 00:07:07,245 We can, 197 00:07:07,805 --> 00:07:08,785 get into 198 00:07:09,645 --> 00:07:11,504 sophisticated system to follow. 199 00:07:12,045 --> 00:07:15,264 Patients will accept those more because this is 200 00:07:15,404 --> 00:07:15,904 nonbiased 201 00:07:16,685 --> 00:07:17,185 recommendations. 202 00:07:18,459 --> 00:07:21,660 Dentistry is changing dramatically. It's gonna get better 203 00:07:21,660 --> 00:07:22,319 and better. 204 00:07:22,939 --> 00:07:25,439 So this is from the clinical side 205 00:07:25,819 --> 00:07:26,720 and how it's 206 00:07:27,100 --> 00:07:30,560 reflecting on dentist and dentistry in general. 207 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:32,879 Now when it comes to 208 00:07:34,504 --> 00:07:35,004 acquiring 209 00:07:35,865 --> 00:07:39,004 other practices and putting those practices together, 210 00:07:39,944 --> 00:07:40,925 this is also 211 00:07:41,464 --> 00:07:42,764 very exciting to me. 212 00:07:43,384 --> 00:07:44,045 The way 213 00:07:44,585 --> 00:07:47,404 you go and you look and you analyze 214 00:07:47,705 --> 00:07:48,205 and 215 00:07:48,585 --> 00:07:49,085 you 216 00:07:49,689 --> 00:07:52,430 acquire and then how you change the systems, 217 00:07:52,649 --> 00:07:53,629 how you make 218 00:07:54,089 --> 00:07:54,670 it working 219 00:07:55,850 --> 00:07:56,350 for 220 00:07:58,089 --> 00:07:59,069 self run 221 00:07:59,529 --> 00:08:00,029 practices 222 00:08:00,490 --> 00:08:01,710 all based on 223 00:08:02,089 --> 00:08:02,589 technologies. 224 00:08:03,504 --> 00:08:07,404 It it's it's really very rewarding and very, 225 00:08:08,764 --> 00:08:09,745 it's it's something 226 00:08:10,444 --> 00:08:11,725 makes me really, really, 227 00:08:12,045 --> 00:08:15,264 happy day today. And getting those 228 00:08:16,259 --> 00:08:17,479 team around 229 00:08:17,939 --> 00:08:21,399 me with leadership qualities and make them better 230 00:08:21,860 --> 00:08:24,120 and develop systems for my, 231 00:08:25,060 --> 00:08:27,379 all team members customized system for all team 232 00:08:27,379 --> 00:08:30,599 members from doctors to who hygienist, dental assistant, 233 00:08:31,115 --> 00:08:32,975 admins, even virtual team, 234 00:08:33,835 --> 00:08:37,215 creating those systems that we created system systems 235 00:08:37,995 --> 00:08:40,795 with a permit of success for each team 236 00:08:40,795 --> 00:08:42,095 member and 237 00:08:42,475 --> 00:08:43,375 based on 238 00:08:44,170 --> 00:08:45,230 best practices 239 00:08:46,170 --> 00:08:47,870 and all measure measurable 240 00:08:48,170 --> 00:08:48,670 data, 241 00:08:49,529 --> 00:08:50,269 and then 242 00:08:50,730 --> 00:08:51,629 build those, 243 00:08:52,649 --> 00:08:55,450 blocks of the pyramid little by little to 244 00:08:55,450 --> 00:08:56,429 get them to 245 00:08:56,809 --> 00:08:58,429 the most successful level. 246 00:08:59,084 --> 00:08:59,745 I am 247 00:09:00,684 --> 00:09:02,924 nervous about one thing, maybe a couple of 248 00:09:02,924 --> 00:09:05,504 things, but but I am nervous about 249 00:09:06,044 --> 00:09:09,024 our industry. Our industry is very fragmented. 250 00:09:10,284 --> 00:09:13,590 We don't have that structure that all working 251 00:09:13,590 --> 00:09:16,410 toward one goal. And then you have that 252 00:09:17,190 --> 00:09:18,170 difference between 253 00:09:18,629 --> 00:09:20,490 a one practice 254 00:09:21,350 --> 00:09:21,850 mentality 255 00:09:22,309 --> 00:09:23,290 to those 256 00:09:23,670 --> 00:09:26,389 big DSOs, and that's a huge difference between 257 00:09:26,389 --> 00:09:27,129 the two. 258 00:09:28,024 --> 00:09:29,725 The the small practice is limited 259 00:09:30,105 --> 00:09:30,764 in their, 260 00:09:31,865 --> 00:09:34,125 research and development, and they're 261 00:09:34,425 --> 00:09:34,925 acquiring, 262 00:09:35,625 --> 00:09:36,684 recent technologies 263 00:09:38,264 --> 00:09:39,485 in getting into 264 00:09:40,024 --> 00:09:42,445 different levels of treatment to 265 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,180 providing the best treatment sometimes. 266 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,820 So they just refer out 267 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,220 to, insurance negotiations. 268 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,220 So it's so limited 269 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,059 where the DSOs, 270 00:09:55,014 --> 00:09:56,794 they have all the resources, 271 00:09:57,254 --> 00:09:58,794 but sometimes limited 272 00:09:59,414 --> 00:09:59,914 in 273 00:10:01,095 --> 00:10:02,315 getting the 274 00:10:03,014 --> 00:10:03,514 small 275 00:10:04,134 --> 00:10:04,634 office 276 00:10:05,014 --> 00:10:08,294 feel. And so between those two, that's it's 277 00:10:08,294 --> 00:10:09,514 a huge gap. 278 00:10:10,490 --> 00:10:12,329 And then the other thing that when it 279 00:10:12,329 --> 00:10:14,909 comes to patients say some patients just 280 00:10:15,449 --> 00:10:15,949 due 281 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:18,350 to financial reasons, they 282 00:10:18,730 --> 00:10:19,549 go for, 283 00:10:20,730 --> 00:10:21,789 smaller procedures 284 00:10:22,904 --> 00:10:23,404 versus 285 00:10:24,184 --> 00:10:25,964 a more sophisticated procedures. 286 00:10:26,825 --> 00:10:29,504 So, like, you have a big filling versus 287 00:10:29,504 --> 00:10:31,485 a crown, so you go for the that 288 00:10:31,544 --> 00:10:32,284 big filling 289 00:10:32,904 --> 00:10:33,404 instead. 290 00:10:34,184 --> 00:10:36,825 Those those are things that makes me really 291 00:10:36,825 --> 00:10:37,325 sometimes 292 00:10:37,850 --> 00:10:40,509 worried what's how we can solve that. 293 00:10:41,290 --> 00:10:43,450 Yeah. I think those are some good points, 294 00:10:43,450 --> 00:10:46,269 especially with the, you know, the differences between 295 00:10:46,330 --> 00:10:47,389 the smaller practice 296 00:10:48,250 --> 00:10:50,830 and and the big DSOs and kinda how 297 00:10:51,424 --> 00:10:53,904 the industry can kinda connect the two maybe 298 00:10:53,904 --> 00:10:54,725 going forward. 299 00:10:55,184 --> 00:10:55,684 Absolutely. 300 00:10:56,384 --> 00:10:58,384 Awesome. And then our last question that we 301 00:10:58,384 --> 00:10:59,044 have today, 302 00:10:59,985 --> 00:11:01,985 in in your view, what will the most 303 00:11:01,985 --> 00:11:04,464 effective health care leaders need in order to 304 00:11:04,464 --> 00:11:06,570 be successful over the next two to three 305 00:11:06,570 --> 00:11:07,070 years? 306 00:11:08,090 --> 00:11:10,029 So health care leaders, 307 00:11:11,050 --> 00:11:13,470 they work always on balancing 308 00:11:14,009 --> 00:11:14,509 between 309 00:11:15,210 --> 00:11:17,629 patients from one side and 310 00:11:18,170 --> 00:11:20,350 all team members from one side. 311 00:11:20,975 --> 00:11:24,115 So always those patients come in for services, 312 00:11:24,254 --> 00:11:27,615 and you have that big team. So and 313 00:11:27,615 --> 00:11:29,774 that team sometimes in a small practice, very 314 00:11:29,774 --> 00:11:31,714 small, and sometimes they're really big. 315 00:11:32,254 --> 00:11:33,954 So it's you have 316 00:11:34,399 --> 00:11:36,660 the people in the front from the admin 317 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,899 to the assistants to to 318 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:40,740 the doctors, 319 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,440 and then you go behind the scene. You 320 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,340 have multiple levels also of team members. 321 00:11:46,879 --> 00:11:47,379 How 322 00:11:47,835 --> 00:11:48,335 the 323 00:11:49,274 --> 00:11:50,975 health care leaders 324 00:11:51,754 --> 00:11:52,654 can get 325 00:11:53,514 --> 00:11:54,014 everyone 326 00:11:55,355 --> 00:11:56,335 in this 327 00:11:56,875 --> 00:11:57,375 dental, 328 00:11:57,995 --> 00:12:00,175 or medical health care 329 00:12:00,795 --> 00:12:01,295 organization 330 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:02,860 working 331 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,500 together to help patients 332 00:12:06,759 --> 00:12:08,379 receiving the best care, 333 00:12:08,919 --> 00:12:10,620 the best customer service. 334 00:12:11,079 --> 00:12:12,059 So this is 335 00:12:12,839 --> 00:12:14,600 the most important thing for the, 336 00:12:15,159 --> 00:12:17,100 leaders is to get this 337 00:12:17,684 --> 00:12:18,184 systems 338 00:12:18,485 --> 00:12:19,785 processes working 339 00:12:20,644 --> 00:12:21,144 toward 340 00:12:21,524 --> 00:12:22,585 best of patients. 341 00:12:22,965 --> 00:12:24,504 So for that, you create 342 00:12:25,445 --> 00:12:25,945 levels 343 00:12:26,644 --> 00:12:27,865 of steps, 344 00:12:28,884 --> 00:12:32,985 monitor it and tweak it and perfecting it. 345 00:12:34,470 --> 00:12:36,490 To do that, you need to do, 346 00:12:37,430 --> 00:12:39,690 so the to do multiple 347 00:12:40,470 --> 00:12:41,529 work from enhancing 348 00:12:42,389 --> 00:12:44,730 your knowledge as a health leader 349 00:12:45,190 --> 00:12:46,170 to be dynamic 350 00:12:46,615 --> 00:12:47,674 in making decision, 351 00:12:48,641 --> 00:12:49,674 the using 352 00:12:50,455 --> 00:12:52,934 new things that we never had before now. 353 00:12:52,934 --> 00:12:54,235 It's a the AI. 354 00:12:54,855 --> 00:12:56,554 Now the the software 355 00:12:56,934 --> 00:12:58,235 that's cloud based, 356 00:12:58,615 --> 00:13:00,715 the, virtual team members. 357 00:13:01,149 --> 00:13:04,370 Now this is we are getting depending 358 00:13:04,990 --> 00:13:07,070 on virtual team members quite a bit these 359 00:13:07,070 --> 00:13:07,570 days. 360 00:13:08,110 --> 00:13:08,610 And, 361 00:13:09,149 --> 00:13:11,009 of course, you need to keep following 362 00:13:11,389 --> 00:13:13,409 the changes in the regulations, 363 00:13:14,235 --> 00:13:14,735 policies, 364 00:13:15,914 --> 00:13:17,134 what's going around. 365 00:13:17,514 --> 00:13:18,894 So all of this 366 00:13:19,674 --> 00:13:20,174 make 367 00:13:20,714 --> 00:13:21,214 that 368 00:13:21,674 --> 00:13:24,254 health leaders in a better standing. 369 00:13:25,595 --> 00:13:28,470 Yeah. Definitely. I totally agree, especially with the 370 00:13:28,470 --> 00:13:31,450 adoption of technology and those kind of things. 371 00:13:31,990 --> 00:13:32,490 Yeah. 372 00:13:32,870 --> 00:13:34,950 Awesome. Well, thank you so much for joining 373 00:13:34,950 --> 00:13:37,850 us today, doctor Kalas, and sharing your valuable 374 00:13:38,070 --> 00:13:40,230 expertise and and insights into the dental and 375 00:13:40,230 --> 00:13:41,209 health care spaces. 376 00:13:41,684 --> 00:13:43,605 It's been a pleasure speaking with you, and 377 00:13:43,605 --> 00:13:45,605 I look forward to connecting with you again 378 00:13:45,605 --> 00:13:46,345 in the future. 379 00:13:47,044 --> 00:13:48,105 Thank you, Cameron, 380 00:13:48,565 --> 00:13:51,205 very much. I had the pleasure and the 381 00:13:51,205 --> 00:13:53,365 honor to be with you. Awesome. Thank you 382 00:13:53,365 --> 00:13:54,804 so much again for your time. I really 383 00:13:54,804 --> 00:13:55,705 appreciate it.