1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,720 Hello. This is Cameron Cortejano with the Becker's 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,660 Dental and DSO review podcast. 3 00:00:05,359 --> 00:00:07,299 I'm thrilled to be joined today by Francesca 4 00:00:07,359 --> 00:00:07,859 Pergano, 5 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,859 COO at SmileMakers 6 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,139 Dental Center. 7 00:00:11,679 --> 00:00:13,359 Francesca, thank you so much for being here 8 00:00:13,359 --> 00:00:15,835 today. Thank you for having me. I am 9 00:00:15,835 --> 00:00:18,954 a frequent listener of the podcast and excited 10 00:00:18,954 --> 00:00:19,774 to be here. 11 00:00:20,154 --> 00:00:21,835 Awesome. Just to start us off today, can 12 00:00:21,835 --> 00:00:23,675 you introduce yourself and tell us a little 13 00:00:23,675 --> 00:00:24,814 bit about your background? 14 00:00:25,274 --> 00:00:25,774 Yes. 15 00:00:26,149 --> 00:00:29,029 So my name is Francesca Provano. I am 16 00:00:29,029 --> 00:00:32,809 the chief operating officer of SmileMakers Dental Center. 17 00:00:33,030 --> 00:00:35,989 We are a multi specialty DSO in Northern 18 00:00:35,989 --> 00:00:36,489 Virginia. 19 00:00:37,429 --> 00:00:39,049 A little bit about my background, 20 00:00:39,765 --> 00:00:41,625 I have nineteen years experience 21 00:00:41,925 --> 00:00:45,445 in the dental industry, specifically in operations and 22 00:00:45,445 --> 00:00:45,945 management. 23 00:00:46,725 --> 00:00:49,925 During this time, I also received my master's 24 00:00:49,925 --> 00:00:50,984 in business administration. 25 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,760 I currently run the operations of our six 26 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,260 practices 27 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,760 with a focus on long term strategic growth 28 00:00:58,760 --> 00:00:59,500 and scalability. 29 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,740 I do this by, 30 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,400 focusing on building high performing teams that align 31 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,700 with the core values 32 00:01:07,204 --> 00:01:08,105 of the organization, 33 00:01:08,885 --> 00:01:09,385 always 34 00:01:10,165 --> 00:01:12,504 also focused on delivering an exceptional 35 00:01:12,805 --> 00:01:13,864 patient experience. 36 00:01:14,965 --> 00:01:18,325 I work alongside our leadership team to create 37 00:01:18,325 --> 00:01:20,104 operating systems that are 38 00:01:20,489 --> 00:01:22,430 easily measurable and scalable 39 00:01:22,890 --> 00:01:23,370 with a, 40 00:01:24,250 --> 00:01:27,290 focus on KPI management for each job role 41 00:01:27,290 --> 00:01:28,030 and department. 42 00:01:29,049 --> 00:01:32,409 I also have a deep financial oversight into 43 00:01:32,409 --> 00:01:33,150 the organization, 44 00:01:33,609 --> 00:01:34,109 specifically 45 00:01:34,409 --> 00:01:36,030 monitoring the cash flow 46 00:01:36,385 --> 00:01:37,685 and profit and loss 47 00:01:37,984 --> 00:01:40,564 management down to each office level, 48 00:01:41,424 --> 00:01:44,484 always to ensure that we do what's necessary 49 00:01:44,704 --> 00:01:46,644 to maintain growth and profitability. 50 00:01:48,305 --> 00:01:49,685 Awesome. Thanks for that. 51 00:01:50,369 --> 00:01:52,129 First question today, what are some of the 52 00:01:52,129 --> 00:01:53,030 biggest issues, 53 00:01:53,409 --> 00:01:55,969 in the dental industry that you've been following 54 00:01:55,969 --> 00:01:57,569 so far in the first couple of months 55 00:01:57,569 --> 00:01:58,629 of 2025? 56 00:01:59,810 --> 00:02:02,069 So one of the biggest issues, 57 00:02:02,805 --> 00:02:04,724 is something that me and my team has 58 00:02:04,724 --> 00:02:07,444 been working on for a couple years now, 59 00:02:07,444 --> 00:02:10,425 and that is the shortage in the workforce, 60 00:02:11,284 --> 00:02:11,784 particularly 61 00:02:12,245 --> 00:02:13,625 among dental assistants, 62 00:02:13,925 --> 00:02:15,864 hygienists, and administrative 63 00:02:16,164 --> 00:02:16,664 professionals. 64 00:02:18,060 --> 00:02:20,480 So not only is recruitment difficult, 65 00:02:20,780 --> 00:02:22,640 but the long term retention 66 00:02:23,020 --> 00:02:24,480 remains a huge concern. 67 00:02:25,500 --> 00:02:27,980 Data shows that nearly half of employees in 68 00:02:27,980 --> 00:02:30,240 these roles leave within the first two years, 69 00:02:30,895 --> 00:02:32,594 And given that there's limited 70 00:02:32,895 --> 00:02:35,694 formal training for these support positions, it often 71 00:02:35,694 --> 00:02:38,254 takes just that long to fully onboard and 72 00:02:38,254 --> 00:02:39,794 develop these individuals. 73 00:02:40,974 --> 00:02:41,474 So 74 00:02:42,254 --> 00:02:43,650 at our organization, 75 00:02:44,030 --> 00:02:47,409 I've helped by taking a proactive approach. 76 00:02:48,110 --> 00:02:49,969 One of the most effective strategies 77 00:02:50,270 --> 00:02:51,409 was the expansion 78 00:02:51,710 --> 00:02:53,169 of a remote workforce. 79 00:02:54,030 --> 00:02:57,504 So that workforce includes a call center, an 80 00:02:57,504 --> 00:02:59,284 RCM team that 81 00:02:59,905 --> 00:03:00,405 measures, 82 00:03:00,705 --> 00:03:03,284 you know, or covers insurance verification, 83 00:03:04,144 --> 00:03:05,764 billing, account auditing, 84 00:03:06,784 --> 00:03:07,764 patient collection, 85 00:03:08,544 --> 00:03:10,405 a finance team, and 86 00:03:10,780 --> 00:03:14,000 trained dentists to perform chart auditing and compliance. 87 00:03:15,259 --> 00:03:17,819 So that shift really allowed us to tap 88 00:03:17,819 --> 00:03:20,560 into talent beyond our physical locations, 89 00:03:21,580 --> 00:03:23,199 not only to increase efficiency, 90 00:03:23,645 --> 00:03:26,544 but make the scalability of our operating systems 91 00:03:26,604 --> 00:03:27,104 possible. 92 00:03:28,365 --> 00:03:30,865 Also, to combat this issue, we've 93 00:03:31,245 --> 00:03:33,745 really redefined our onboarding and development 94 00:03:34,044 --> 00:03:37,165 with structured programs and check ins that focus 95 00:03:37,165 --> 00:03:40,189 on long term growth with our current employees. 96 00:03:40,969 --> 00:03:43,709 So we set clear expectations from day one, 97 00:03:44,489 --> 00:03:47,629 and that alone has dramatically improved the engagement 98 00:03:48,250 --> 00:03:48,750 of 99 00:03:49,129 --> 00:03:50,110 the team member. 100 00:03:50,889 --> 00:03:51,284 We also 101 00:03:53,044 --> 00:03:56,025 career pathway that will define their skills from 102 00:03:56,805 --> 00:03:59,944 fundamental knowledge to technical skills, leadership, 103 00:04:00,485 --> 00:04:01,944 all the way to business growth. 104 00:04:02,885 --> 00:04:04,344 So those skills are mirrored 105 00:04:04,645 --> 00:04:05,705 to a pay tier, 106 00:04:06,259 --> 00:04:08,180 and we're very open with the team members 107 00:04:08,180 --> 00:04:11,139 about their financial goals and the skills they 108 00:04:11,139 --> 00:04:13,159 need to achieve in order 109 00:04:14,259 --> 00:04:16,839 to receive their desired salary over time. 110 00:04:17,379 --> 00:04:19,079 So that has made training 111 00:04:19,379 --> 00:04:19,959 a collaborative 112 00:04:20,339 --> 00:04:20,839 effort 113 00:04:21,224 --> 00:04:23,404 and also took away a lot of unnecessary 114 00:04:23,704 --> 00:04:24,204 expectations 115 00:04:24,584 --> 00:04:26,125 that were very hard to match. 116 00:04:27,305 --> 00:04:30,264 But really most importantly, we hire and lead 117 00:04:30,264 --> 00:04:31,564 based on our core values. 118 00:04:32,024 --> 00:04:34,504 We're very protective of our team culture and 119 00:04:34,504 --> 00:04:37,550 the office atmosphere. And if anyone doesn't align 120 00:04:37,550 --> 00:04:38,610 with the core values, 121 00:04:38,990 --> 00:04:40,930 we part ways pretty early on. 122 00:04:41,470 --> 00:04:44,350 So it's not always easy, but we found 123 00:04:44,350 --> 00:04:46,750 that standing by our principles has earned us 124 00:04:46,750 --> 00:04:48,689 a lot of trust within our team. 125 00:04:49,194 --> 00:04:51,274 And in the long run, investing in the 126 00:04:51,274 --> 00:04:52,014 right people 127 00:04:52,475 --> 00:04:54,634 costs a lot less than holding on to 128 00:04:54,634 --> 00:04:55,535 the wrong ones. 129 00:04:56,394 --> 00:04:58,254 Yeah. Definitely. That makes a lot of sense. 130 00:04:58,795 --> 00:05:00,714 Something that I'm curious to to get your 131 00:05:00,714 --> 00:05:02,870 thoughts on are what are you most excited 132 00:05:02,870 --> 00:05:05,029 about when it comes to the dental industry 133 00:05:05,029 --> 00:05:06,550 right now, and and what are some things 134 00:05:06,550 --> 00:05:08,389 that are potentially making you a little bit 135 00:05:08,389 --> 00:05:08,889 nervous? 136 00:05:09,910 --> 00:05:10,410 So, 137 00:05:11,110 --> 00:05:13,509 yeah, that's a great question. So what I'm 138 00:05:13,509 --> 00:05:15,449 most excited about is 139 00:05:15,829 --> 00:05:16,329 really 140 00:05:16,964 --> 00:05:18,985 personal for me. So we are, 141 00:05:19,444 --> 00:05:20,584 planning an expansion 142 00:05:20,964 --> 00:05:22,985 of SmileMakers Dental Center. 143 00:05:23,524 --> 00:05:24,024 And 144 00:05:24,404 --> 00:05:27,125 I really love and get excited to wake 145 00:05:27,125 --> 00:05:28,964 up each day knowing that I have the 146 00:05:28,964 --> 00:05:29,464 opportunity 147 00:05:29,925 --> 00:05:31,625 to create something meaningful, 148 00:05:32,509 --> 00:05:34,769 for our team and for our patients. 149 00:05:35,550 --> 00:05:38,029 So I work closely with our CEO, and 150 00:05:38,029 --> 00:05:39,170 I love the challenge 151 00:05:39,629 --> 00:05:42,290 of turning his vision into action. 152 00:05:42,910 --> 00:05:44,290 And we celebrate 153 00:05:44,670 --> 00:05:45,884 the day to day wins, 154 00:05:46,444 --> 00:05:48,384 with the team at the office level 155 00:05:48,764 --> 00:05:51,745 that really build momentum towards long term success. 156 00:05:52,764 --> 00:05:55,404 And then I really stay energized by seeing 157 00:05:55,404 --> 00:05:56,625 a culture of 158 00:05:56,925 --> 00:05:59,185 ambitious leaders hit their goals 159 00:05:59,485 --> 00:06:01,745 and lead their teams at the office level. 160 00:06:02,099 --> 00:06:04,019 So me and the practice leaders, we have 161 00:06:04,019 --> 00:06:05,319 a strong meeting cadence, 162 00:06:06,019 --> 00:06:06,759 that involves 163 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,319 analyzing the data, training, 164 00:06:10,099 --> 00:06:11,000 and collaborating 165 00:06:11,379 --> 00:06:15,060 on the standard operating procedures to identify any 166 00:06:15,060 --> 00:06:16,680 changes that need to be made. 167 00:06:17,274 --> 00:06:18,095 And it's always 168 00:06:19,115 --> 00:06:21,754 exciting to show them how their data is 169 00:06:21,754 --> 00:06:22,814 telling a story. 170 00:06:23,274 --> 00:06:25,134 It's very eye opening to them, 171 00:06:25,514 --> 00:06:26,014 and 172 00:06:26,714 --> 00:06:29,435 in turn, it's very rewarding to see my 173 00:06:29,435 --> 00:06:29,935 training 174 00:06:30,474 --> 00:06:32,414 and feedback pay off. 175 00:06:33,250 --> 00:06:36,149 Also exciting is just how fast dental technology 176 00:06:36,209 --> 00:06:36,870 is evolving. 177 00:06:37,569 --> 00:06:40,709 So AI diagnostic tools and three d visualization 178 00:06:41,250 --> 00:06:44,949 are really transforming patient education and case acceptance. 179 00:06:46,064 --> 00:06:49,264 We trained our doctors to embrace these tools 180 00:06:49,264 --> 00:06:49,764 daily. 181 00:06:51,104 --> 00:06:51,764 In turn, 182 00:06:52,064 --> 00:06:54,384 that's allowed them to diagnose at a higher 183 00:06:54,384 --> 00:06:56,324 level and produce more comprehensive 184 00:06:56,625 --> 00:06:59,185 treatment plans and with that, the patient response 185 00:06:59,185 --> 00:07:00,084 has been incredible. 186 00:07:01,259 --> 00:07:01,759 So, 187 00:07:02,459 --> 00:07:06,079 very excited to continue on this journey and, 188 00:07:07,019 --> 00:07:09,339 again, very rewarding to see how this kind 189 00:07:09,339 --> 00:07:12,639 of innovation has elevated the clinical care and 190 00:07:12,699 --> 00:07:13,199 overall 191 00:07:14,139 --> 00:07:15,519 performance of the business. 192 00:07:16,535 --> 00:07:19,254 What I'm most nervous about right now, I 193 00:07:19,254 --> 00:07:20,395 would say, is 194 00:07:21,415 --> 00:07:23,274 really the stability of the economy 195 00:07:23,814 --> 00:07:25,995 and how it's going to impact 196 00:07:26,295 --> 00:07:27,995 the talent that we have, 197 00:07:28,774 --> 00:07:29,834 the talent pool. 198 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:33,300 Not only that, but the patient's ability to 199 00:07:33,300 --> 00:07:34,199 afford treatment. 200 00:07:35,540 --> 00:07:38,180 That's all going to really impact the profit 201 00:07:38,180 --> 00:07:38,680 margin 202 00:07:39,460 --> 00:07:42,340 also due to the tariffs and supplies, lab 203 00:07:42,340 --> 00:07:43,319 costs, and equipment. 204 00:07:44,324 --> 00:07:46,564 Also, what makes me nervous is not all 205 00:07:46,564 --> 00:07:48,345 patients are educated on 206 00:07:48,964 --> 00:07:51,605 the oral systemic link and don't realize their 207 00:07:51,605 --> 00:07:52,745 health is so critical. 208 00:07:53,444 --> 00:07:55,925 Couple that with the limited dental coverage many 209 00:07:55,925 --> 00:07:59,220 of them have and inflation, patients are going 210 00:07:59,220 --> 00:08:01,399 to begin to value going to the dentist 211 00:08:01,460 --> 00:08:02,199 even less. 212 00:08:03,060 --> 00:08:04,920 Yeah. I think those are some great points. 213 00:08:05,139 --> 00:08:06,600 When you talk about expansion 214 00:08:07,139 --> 00:08:07,879 at SmileMakers, 215 00:08:09,034 --> 00:08:10,714 what are some of your goals around that 216 00:08:10,714 --> 00:08:13,375 and kind of what's like your your timeline 217 00:08:13,754 --> 00:08:14,735 at at the organization 218 00:08:15,115 --> 00:08:17,214 for kind of that expansion? 219 00:08:18,794 --> 00:08:20,974 Well, we have spent the last 220 00:08:21,594 --> 00:08:23,294 about year and a half really 221 00:08:24,089 --> 00:08:27,389 making sure that our operating systems are scalable. 222 00:08:28,649 --> 00:08:29,870 We have continued 223 00:08:30,330 --> 00:08:31,069 to grow, 224 00:08:31,850 --> 00:08:32,350 vertically 225 00:08:32,809 --> 00:08:34,509 within the six that we have, 226 00:08:35,049 --> 00:08:36,429 and we are actively 227 00:08:37,065 --> 00:08:39,485 starting to look for new practices 228 00:08:39,785 --> 00:08:41,804 to acquire. So we want to, 229 00:08:42,345 --> 00:08:44,764 you know, acquire more locations, serve 230 00:08:46,024 --> 00:08:48,745 a greater population in the community with really 231 00:08:48,745 --> 00:08:50,205 excellent dental care. 232 00:08:51,389 --> 00:08:51,889 Awesome. 233 00:08:52,190 --> 00:08:53,789 And then just our last question that we 234 00:08:53,789 --> 00:08:56,269 have today, in your view, what will the 235 00:08:56,269 --> 00:08:58,909 most effective health care leaders need in order 236 00:08:58,909 --> 00:09:00,829 to be successful over the next two to 237 00:09:00,829 --> 00:09:01,569 three years? 238 00:09:02,669 --> 00:09:03,569 Yeah. So 239 00:09:04,134 --> 00:09:06,294 health care leaders in the next two to 240 00:09:06,294 --> 00:09:08,315 three years have to be 241 00:09:09,334 --> 00:09:09,834 visionary 242 00:09:10,214 --> 00:09:10,714 and 243 00:09:11,495 --> 00:09:11,995 adaptable. 244 00:09:13,095 --> 00:09:13,595 So 245 00:09:14,375 --> 00:09:17,034 I see a lot of dentists or other 246 00:09:17,254 --> 00:09:17,754 entrepreneurs. 247 00:09:19,070 --> 00:09:20,830 They wait and see when it comes to 248 00:09:20,830 --> 00:09:21,330 technology. 249 00:09:22,190 --> 00:09:22,690 And 250 00:09:23,309 --> 00:09:24,049 what we, 251 00:09:24,669 --> 00:09:26,750 found is that those who are delaying the 252 00:09:26,750 --> 00:09:29,169 integration of AI and digital workflows 253 00:09:29,870 --> 00:09:30,529 are risks 254 00:09:31,070 --> 00:09:32,610 are risking falling behind. 255 00:09:32,964 --> 00:09:35,205 So we've been able to use AI to 256 00:09:35,205 --> 00:09:37,924 help streamline our operations for about three years 257 00:09:37,924 --> 00:09:40,485 now, and we're still not seeing many others 258 00:09:40,485 --> 00:09:41,705 use it at our level. 259 00:09:42,644 --> 00:09:43,144 So 260 00:09:43,845 --> 00:09:46,404 my feedback would be for them to be 261 00:09:46,404 --> 00:09:46,904 proactive 262 00:09:47,284 --> 00:09:48,659 in testing new solutions, 263 00:09:49,059 --> 00:09:50,519 evaluating its performance, 264 00:09:51,220 --> 00:09:54,039 and scaling what works and doing that quickly. 265 00:09:55,539 --> 00:09:56,519 Beyond technology, 266 00:09:57,299 --> 00:09:59,720 the most effective leaders will need to establish 267 00:10:00,579 --> 00:10:02,199 their organizational culture. 268 00:10:02,625 --> 00:10:04,304 So they're going to need to build teams 269 00:10:04,304 --> 00:10:06,304 that are not only skilled but aligned to 270 00:10:06,304 --> 00:10:06,965 the mission. 271 00:10:07,904 --> 00:10:10,404 And the that balance of technological 272 00:10:11,105 --> 00:10:14,465 innovation and human leadership is where we, as 273 00:10:14,465 --> 00:10:16,644 a leadership team, found true success. 274 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:18,660 Lastly, 275 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,560 health care leaders have to, without a doubt, 276 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:25,220 be well educated on their day, data. 277 00:10:25,759 --> 00:10:28,320 You can never have enough, and understanding the 278 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:28,820 KPIs 279 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:29,779 by department 280 00:10:30,315 --> 00:10:32,735 is what's going to allow high level executives 281 00:10:32,794 --> 00:10:35,535 to be strategic and adapt to changes quickly. 282 00:10:36,154 --> 00:10:38,335 So, again, you really can't wait and see. 283 00:10:38,634 --> 00:10:40,475 And I train my team that the only 284 00:10:40,475 --> 00:10:42,154 time we have to make a change is 285 00:10:42,154 --> 00:10:42,654 today, 286 00:10:43,035 --> 00:10:43,695 not tomorrow. 287 00:10:44,129 --> 00:10:45,970 So when they put their focus on hitting 288 00:10:45,970 --> 00:10:48,870 their daily goals, they're winning almost every time. 289 00:10:49,970 --> 00:10:51,970 Yeah. I think those those are some great 290 00:10:51,970 --> 00:10:54,850 insights and great points and and great advice 291 00:10:54,850 --> 00:10:56,870 for health care leaders going forward. 292 00:10:57,274 --> 00:10:59,455 Well, thank you for joining us today, Franchesca, 293 00:10:59,595 --> 00:11:02,554 and sharing your valuable expertise and insights into 294 00:11:02,554 --> 00:11:03,615 the dental space. 295 00:11:04,154 --> 00:11:06,154 It's been a pleasure speaking with you today, 296 00:11:06,154 --> 00:11:08,075 and I look forward to connecting with you 297 00:11:08,075 --> 00:11:09,134 again in the future. 298 00:11:10,258 --> 00:11:12,578 Yes. Me too. Looking forward to it, and, 299 00:11:12,978 --> 00:11:15,318 you're doing a great job. Thank you again. 300 00:11:15,618 --> 00:11:16,998 Thank you. Have a good one.