1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,319 Hello. This is Arianna Porta Latin with the 2 00:00:02,319 --> 00:00:04,960 Becker's Dental and DSO Review podcast. I'm thrilled 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,120 to be joined today by doctor Siberia Brannen, 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,439 a practice owner at Affordable Dentures and Implants. 5 00:00:09,439 --> 00:00:10,880 Doctor Brannen, thank you so much for being 6 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:11,539 here today. 7 00:00:12,255 --> 00:00:13,695 I'm glad to be here. Thank you for 8 00:00:13,695 --> 00:00:14,355 the invitation. 9 00:00:14,815 --> 00:00:15,315 Definitely. 10 00:00:15,695 --> 00:00:17,375 To start us off, can you introduce yourself 11 00:00:17,375 --> 00:00:18,495 and tell us a little bit about your 12 00:00:18,495 --> 00:00:18,995 background? 13 00:00:19,934 --> 00:00:22,095 Yes. My name is Sabirat t Brannen. 14 00:00:22,494 --> 00:00:24,894 I've been practicing dentistry now for a little 15 00:00:24,894 --> 00:00:25,949 bit over 31 years. 16 00:00:26,910 --> 00:00:28,449 I have great joy in practicing. 17 00:00:29,150 --> 00:00:31,650 I graduated from the University of Detroit, 18 00:00:32,109 --> 00:00:32,929 in 93 19 00:00:33,789 --> 00:00:35,229 and then I did a post grad program 20 00:00:35,229 --> 00:00:37,570 at the University of Michigan AGD program. 21 00:00:38,190 --> 00:00:40,424 Afterwards, I opened a practice from scratch 22 00:00:41,225 --> 00:00:41,545 in, 23 00:00:42,424 --> 00:00:45,325 a small town outside Detroit called Ferndale, Michigan. 24 00:00:46,265 --> 00:00:47,945 And then I practiced there for about 10 25 00:00:47,945 --> 00:00:50,125 years. I did a lot of CEREC training 26 00:00:50,184 --> 00:00:51,085 across the country. 27 00:00:51,784 --> 00:00:54,149 And then I wound up here in Arizona 28 00:00:54,149 --> 00:00:56,939 which I've been practicing here since 2,006. At 29 00:00:56,939 --> 00:00:57,308 first I was when I first arrived here 30 00:00:57,308 --> 00:00:58,869 I was doing some training with CEREC and 31 00:00:58,869 --> 00:01:00,489 CADCAM with Pacific Dental 32 00:01:00,949 --> 00:01:02,890 Services. And after 3 years at Pacific Dental 33 00:01:02,949 --> 00:01:03,769 Services I 34 00:01:07,385 --> 00:01:09,865 became a practice owner here with Affordable Dentures 35 00:01:09,865 --> 00:01:11,245 and Implants since 2009. 36 00:01:12,344 --> 00:01:15,005 I currently own 3 practices under the network, 37 00:01:15,545 --> 00:01:16,765 one in Sun City, 38 00:01:17,145 --> 00:01:18,365 one in Avondale, 39 00:01:18,745 --> 00:01:20,760 Arizona and also Bullhead City, 40 00:01:21,159 --> 00:01:23,740 Arizona. Bullhead City, for those who don't know, 41 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,740 is right there on the border of Laughlin, 42 00:01:25,799 --> 00:01:27,099 Nevada. So I'm in 43 00:01:27,719 --> 00:01:28,620 the the northwest 44 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,920 corner of Arizona. So I have a lot 45 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,060 of ground to cover. 46 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:33,000 And, 47 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,640 I also had a chance last year opening 48 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:36,254 my first, 49 00:01:36,734 --> 00:01:38,274 implant fellowship program. 50 00:01:38,814 --> 00:01:40,354 I graduated 1, 51 00:01:41,375 --> 00:01:41,875 associate 52 00:01:42,254 --> 00:01:42,754 resident 53 00:01:43,055 --> 00:01:45,215 and he's now my managing dentist at the 54 00:01:45,215 --> 00:01:46,435 Bullhead City practice. 55 00:01:47,295 --> 00:01:49,295 And and also in my free time, I 56 00:01:49,295 --> 00:01:51,375 like to do volunteer work in Latin America. 57 00:01:51,375 --> 00:01:52,299 I do a lot lot of dental work 58 00:01:52,299 --> 00:01:53,599 or dental, 59 00:01:54,659 --> 00:01:56,560 volunteer dental work in Nicaragua. 60 00:01:57,340 --> 00:01:59,599 And so I've been doing that since 2014. 61 00:01:59,900 --> 00:02:00,400 So 62 00:02:00,939 --> 00:02:02,380 I think that's a good good bit of 63 00:02:02,380 --> 00:02:03,599 information about myself. 64 00:02:04,075 --> 00:02:06,234 Definitely. Thank you so much for that. First 65 00:02:06,234 --> 00:02:07,674 question here, what are some of the biggest 66 00:02:07,674 --> 00:02:09,194 issues that you're following right now in the 67 00:02:09,194 --> 00:02:10,014 dental industry? 68 00:02:12,395 --> 00:02:12,634 Men 69 00:02:13,194 --> 00:02:13,694 implantology 70 00:02:14,155 --> 00:02:17,194 and, mentorship, and particularly in the areas of 71 00:02:17,194 --> 00:02:17,694 implantology. 72 00:02:18,395 --> 00:02:19,354 I've gotten a lot of, 73 00:02:19,969 --> 00:02:20,949 training from different, 74 00:02:22,530 --> 00:02:24,150 great leaders in implantology 75 00:02:24,449 --> 00:02:25,189 from doctor, 76 00:02:26,689 --> 00:02:27,189 Mangalo 77 00:02:27,490 --> 00:02:28,709 to doctor Hoglock 78 00:02:29,169 --> 00:02:29,250 to, 79 00:02:30,050 --> 00:02:32,209 to many other doctors that I can attribute 80 00:02:32,209 --> 00:02:34,069 my training to. And implantology 81 00:02:34,530 --> 00:02:37,825 is not given enough training time in dental 82 00:02:38,444 --> 00:02:40,045 school. And in order to go out and 83 00:02:40,045 --> 00:02:42,444 and adequately place implants, you need to have, 84 00:02:43,004 --> 00:02:45,004 the training number 1 outside of dental school, 85 00:02:45,004 --> 00:02:46,944 but most importantly, you need the clinical mentorship 86 00:02:47,325 --> 00:02:48,625 in this particular area. 87 00:02:50,229 --> 00:02:51,129 Okay. Great. 88 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:53,509 And I'm also curious. What are you most 89 00:02:53,509 --> 00:02:55,590 excited about when it comes to dentistry right 90 00:02:55,590 --> 00:02:57,050 now, and what makes you nervous? 91 00:02:59,669 --> 00:03:02,585 Excited. Technology. I've been working with tech technology 92 00:03:02,805 --> 00:03:06,004 since, my post grad program with the 1st 93 00:03:06,004 --> 00:03:06,985 generation CEREC. 94 00:03:07,365 --> 00:03:08,585 So I've always been, 95 00:03:09,044 --> 00:03:10,344 intrigued by technology. 96 00:03:10,965 --> 00:03:12,724 I think one of my the the story 97 00:03:12,724 --> 00:03:14,239 I need to stay away from is Best 98 00:03:14,239 --> 00:03:15,879 Buy because that's just the house of technology. 99 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:17,719 But outside of that, I just love technology, 100 00:03:17,719 --> 00:03:20,139 how it can be used in, in dentistry 101 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,519 and particularly in the area of full arch 102 00:03:22,519 --> 00:03:23,819 tooth replacement therapy. 103 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,084 That that has come so far as far 104 00:03:28,084 --> 00:03:31,085 as digitally planning your implants to digitally making 105 00:03:31,085 --> 00:03:31,585 provisional 106 00:03:32,284 --> 00:03:34,925 and from that point even digitally making your 107 00:03:34,925 --> 00:03:36,865 final prosthetic. It's 108 00:03:37,885 --> 00:03:39,645 very, very exciting how we can do so 109 00:03:39,645 --> 00:03:40,385 many things 110 00:03:41,009 --> 00:03:43,409 dentistry today with technology and, of course, single 111 00:03:43,409 --> 00:03:45,490 tooth replacement, single tooth crowns and stuff like 112 00:03:45,490 --> 00:03:46,870 that. We've been doing that for, 113 00:03:47,490 --> 00:03:49,810 again, since 'ninety three at the very least. 114 00:03:49,810 --> 00:03:50,310 So, 115 00:03:51,090 --> 00:03:53,250 I'm very excited about that. All the new 116 00:03:53,250 --> 00:03:55,250 avenues I'm pretty much on top of, at 117 00:03:55,250 --> 00:03:56,389 least I try to be. 118 00:03:56,905 --> 00:03:59,705 What makes me nervous is, again, you know, 119 00:03:59,705 --> 00:04:01,224 the technology is coming out, but do we 120 00:04:01,224 --> 00:04:02,685 have enough training programs 121 00:04:03,305 --> 00:04:06,264 to handle all the different complications and understand 122 00:04:06,264 --> 00:04:07,325 these different workflows? 123 00:04:08,105 --> 00:04:10,139 And, I'm really nervous in the area of 124 00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:11,599 full arch therapy because 125 00:04:11,979 --> 00:04:12,479 sometimes, 126 00:04:13,020 --> 00:04:14,080 you know, that is 127 00:04:14,379 --> 00:04:16,620 a large treatment that that you need to 128 00:04:16,620 --> 00:04:18,720 have a good handle on all phases of 129 00:04:19,339 --> 00:04:21,920 of specialty as far as perio to prod 130 00:04:22,220 --> 00:04:22,800 and to 131 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:26,535 implantology as well. So a lot of times 132 00:04:26,535 --> 00:04:28,454 a 2 day or 3 day weekend course 133 00:04:28,454 --> 00:04:29,754 is not enough to, 134 00:04:30,615 --> 00:04:32,214 make you want to go back on Monday 135 00:04:32,214 --> 00:04:33,814 to do full arch therapy on a patient. 136 00:04:33,814 --> 00:04:36,055 So it's a definite evolution of talents and 137 00:04:36,055 --> 00:04:36,875 skill sets 138 00:04:37,349 --> 00:04:39,529 that will allow you to do our surgery 139 00:04:39,669 --> 00:04:41,349 correctly. And that was that that was what 140 00:04:41,349 --> 00:04:43,189 makes me nervous. Sometimes you make it seem 141 00:04:43,189 --> 00:04:45,269 so easy, but at the same time, we 142 00:04:45,269 --> 00:04:46,629 have to have a handle on so many 143 00:04:46,629 --> 00:04:47,129 different, 144 00:04:47,909 --> 00:04:48,729 skill sets. 145 00:04:49,474 --> 00:04:51,714 Okay. Yeah. Have you found it difficult to 146 00:04:51,714 --> 00:04:53,634 add new technology to your practice with all 147 00:04:53,634 --> 00:04:54,854 those challenges in mind? 148 00:04:56,274 --> 00:04:57,495 No. Right now, 149 00:04:57,954 --> 00:05:00,375 fortunately, I'm I'm kinda niche into tooth replacement 150 00:05:00,435 --> 00:05:03,240 therapy, so it's pretty easy from my point 151 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,979 for making dentures from digital dentures to, 152 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,479 placing virtually placing implants and doing the planning 153 00:05:09,479 --> 00:05:12,839 prior to creating surgical guides, it's pretty seamless 154 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,444 in my particular niche of dentistry, so in 155 00:05:15,444 --> 00:05:18,025 tooth replacement, it's it's pretty straightforward. 156 00:05:18,645 --> 00:05:19,705 And it's pretty straightforward, 157 00:05:20,085 --> 00:05:20,824 just doing 158 00:05:21,444 --> 00:05:23,764 regular general dentistry for the most part, but 159 00:05:23,764 --> 00:05:25,305 in my particular field, it's 160 00:05:25,835 --> 00:05:26,745 it's it's straightforward. 161 00:05:28,379 --> 00:05:28,879 Alright. 162 00:05:30,060 --> 00:05:32,060 Next question here. What will the most effective 163 00:05:32,060 --> 00:05:33,979 health care leaders need to be successful in 164 00:05:33,979 --> 00:05:35,360 the next 2 to 3 years? 165 00:05:37,979 --> 00:05:40,394 I I think finding their patient niche. I 166 00:05:40,394 --> 00:05:42,975 mean, before again, I've been doing general dentistry 167 00:05:43,035 --> 00:05:44,415 for at least half my career. 168 00:05:44,795 --> 00:05:47,274 And actually, once I became the practice owner 169 00:05:47,274 --> 00:05:49,435 at Affordable Dentures Amp Plan and found my 170 00:05:49,435 --> 00:05:51,355 niche, I felt like I was able to 171 00:05:51,355 --> 00:05:52,415 help more people 172 00:05:52,794 --> 00:05:55,035 in this particular niche because a lot of 173 00:05:55,035 --> 00:05:56,920 times we have a lot patients that already 174 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,060 had a tooth extracted, 175 00:05:58,439 --> 00:05:59,420 they need a replacement 176 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,339 or they have a, 177 00:06:01,879 --> 00:06:03,240 and they need to know which route they 178 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,339 can go. A lot of times with 179 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,199 extractions, it's because of the economics of the 180 00:06:08,199 --> 00:06:08,699 patients 181 00:06:09,355 --> 00:06:11,675 that would, that let them down this particular 182 00:06:11,675 --> 00:06:12,495 road. So, 183 00:06:13,435 --> 00:06:15,835 I think that's gonna be the biggest challenge 184 00:06:15,835 --> 00:06:17,935 coming up. Understand the patient care, 185 00:06:18,955 --> 00:06:19,774 and their 186 00:06:20,555 --> 00:06:21,055 limitations 187 00:06:21,449 --> 00:06:23,769 financially, finding out how we can get dental 188 00:06:23,769 --> 00:06:26,269 assurances to increase their coverage, annual coverage, 189 00:06:27,050 --> 00:06:30,169 and then also partnering partnering with and understanding 190 00:06:30,169 --> 00:06:33,254 other patient financing options. I think right now 191 00:06:33,254 --> 00:06:34,235 we need to have, 192 00:06:35,014 --> 00:06:35,915 better accessibility 193 00:06:36,535 --> 00:06:39,115 to care and providing the means of affordability 194 00:06:39,254 --> 00:06:40,235 at the same time. 195 00:06:40,615 --> 00:06:42,295 And I think that's the the biggest challenge 196 00:06:42,295 --> 00:06:43,754 is the next 2 to 3 years. 197 00:06:44,535 --> 00:06:46,455 Great. Well, thank you so much for joining 198 00:06:46,455 --> 00:06:48,629 us today, doctor Brennan. It's been a pleasure 199 00:06:48,629 --> 00:06:49,829 speaking with you, and I look forward to 200 00:06:49,829 --> 00:06:51,370 connecting with you again in the future. 201 00:06:52,470 --> 00:06:54,410 Okay. Awesome. Thanks for having me.