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Hello. This is Cameron Cortejano with the Becker's

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Dental and DSO review podcast.

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I'm thrilled to be joined today by doctor

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Sandeep Rawal, senior vice president of implant support

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services at Aspen Dental. Doctor Rawal, thank you

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so much for being here today.

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Thank you for having me.

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Just to start us off today, can you

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introduce yourself and tell us a little bit

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about your background?

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Sure. So first off, thank you for having

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me. It's it's really an honor and a

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pleasure to be here today. As you mentioned,

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I'm senior vice president of implant support services

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for Aspen Dental,

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and I'm a proud University of Florida Gator,

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an alumni who graduated doing my undergrad in

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dentistry at the University of Florida

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back in 2006,

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and then went on to do my prosthodontics

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at the University of California in San Francisco,

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where I graduated in 2009. I spent over

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10 years in private practice

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and then joined Aspen Dental in 2019

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to help support the implant

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initiative.

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Awesome. Thanks for that.

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What are some of the biggest issues

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that you've been following so far in the

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dental industry in 2024?

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Listen. I think there's a couple of things

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going on in the industry today. One of

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the biggest challenges we face here at Aspen

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and all DSOs in general is this perception

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around dental support organizations.

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you know, look. There's really people out there

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who believe that DSOs are all about the

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numbers

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and making a profit versus being focused on

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patient care.

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Each DSO has its own model and philosophies

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and how they approach clinicians and the care

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presented to patients. But, look, it really comes

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down to, for us, this notion that

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we understand that clinicians,

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they have so many

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options or opportunities of how however many different

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of practice that are out there. And and,

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really, that what is important for them

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and what is important for their careers

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really, I think, the differentiator with how they

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who's the best support organization

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to to to join. And so for example,

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you know, it's important for us,

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and it's important for them obviously,

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that they have really strong continuing

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growth and development journeys do they have,

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what kind of dentistry do they actually wanna

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be offering

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to the people that they serve?

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being in a DSO that gives them the

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opportunity to grow and develop in ways that

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they find meaningful, I think, is really super

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important. It's a challenge for sure to be

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able to offer clinicians

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those avenues of growth and development.

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lifestyle they want. Right? Do they wanna be

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in an in a model that has ownership,

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right, if that's a goal they have? So

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the this notion of

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what can a, dental support organization do for

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What are some things at Aspen that you're

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kinda proposing and and talking to these dentists

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and clinicians about when Yeah. They're they're thinking

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about Yeah. That's great. That it's a great

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question, you know, because look. At Aspen Dental,

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everything we do is built around 22 real

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main considerations,

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one

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being

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the patient experience.

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How can we best serve

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people?

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How do we help heal them? How do

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we offer them care that has positive outcomes

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with predictable

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ways of getting there with positive experience.

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It's so important to us. Right?

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the best experience for patients,

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but we also focus on what's the best

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experience for providers. Right? And we have a

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clear vision of what we're aiming to accomplish

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when it comes to

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a way to create an environment for doctors

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to be able to live the life they

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want, practice the dentistry

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that they want, and offer the care that

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they want so that patients get the outcomes

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that they want. And that's really what we're

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focused on, and that encompasses some of the

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things that we talked about that were challenges.

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Like, what kind of learning and development journeys

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do we create? How do we think about

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innovation? How do we embrace technological

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change in the in the industry?

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How do we make things

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easier for patients and providers

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when it comes to offering care? You know,

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those are the things that we focus on

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day in and day out to be able

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to hopefully,

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you know, create a positive environment where we

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providers effect change for the people that they

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Got it. That makes a ton of sense.

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are what are some things that you're excited

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about when it comes to dentistry right now,

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and what are some things that are potentially

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making you a little bit nervous?

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I think, you know, my my title kinda

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says it all. I'm really excited about this

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notion of dental implant therapy. Right? And the

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trajectory

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that we have with implants

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changing how we deliver

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dental care or dental health to the people

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we serve. There's not been,

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more of a a dramatic shift in how

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we think about tooth replacement

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in the last

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20, 30 years than it is with dental

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implants, and it's really changing the trajectory

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of what we're able to offer patients.

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dentures were as good as it got for

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a person who has or is losing all

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their teeth. Right?

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best we could offer

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to people was

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a solution that wasn't as good as teeth,

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but it was the best we could offer.

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And today, technology is changing that, especially when

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it comes to dental implant therapy.

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that are far

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superior

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and gives them the ability to have teeth

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that look like teeth, feel like teeth, and

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actually function like teeth compared to removable

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dentures

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in ways that are so close

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to what it was like to have their

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natural teeth.

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And it's exciting because we can do this

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not just

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today from the standpoint of, like, the therapy

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we we offer with dental implants, but also

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how we deliver that therapy through technological innovation,

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through the ability to make

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easier

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and take less time and save on effort

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and make it more affordable

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because of, you know, the areas that we're

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focused on with innovation around specifically things like

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implant dentistry.

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You know, that excites me. It's never been

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a better time to impact a person's life

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through dental care

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than it is today, especially with what we

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have with technology and implants.

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for patients. Let's be honest. Right? When we

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think about

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implants and we think about the investment

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that it costs and the convenience and the

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fear factor and the process itself,

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right, there have been some significant barriers

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why patients

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feel like these therapies are out of reach.

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They're not attainable.

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at Aspen Dental, we are so focused

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on breaking down those barriers, providing

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patients the ability to get these implant solutions,

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do it in ways that are simple, reliable,

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and obviously more accessible so that there's

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a better and easier ability for the patient

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to say, yes.

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I I want that therapy. And so we've

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really had

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an unbelievable,

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experience doing that over the last many years,

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which excites me. Right? You know, another great

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example of this is the level of investment

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and commitment we have to

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to being at the forefront

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of changing how implant dentistry is delivered

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to patients. And with that, I know a

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great example is,

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you know, I've had the honor,

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truly one of the greatest honors of my

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life,

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to help spearhead the initiative of our tag,

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the Aspen Group Oral Care Center For Excellence,

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which is a cutting edge state of the

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art facility in Chicago,

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which is

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multiday,

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contemporary

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implant training so that doctors learn the very

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best and innovative practices on how to deliver

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care to patients,

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in that same hand live hands on experience

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delivering care to the people who need it

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the most.

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Center. We've now donated

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upwards of, you know, year to date,

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close to $8,000,000

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of donated dental services out of one

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location in the heart of Chicago to those

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who need it the most. And it's been

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really an honor and privilege to be part

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of something

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so impactful

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that changes not only the trajectory and career

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of the professionals that we cert support, but

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also the patients who need it the most.

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And so, you know, I'm excited about these

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things. I'm excited about being able to change

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the course of

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how we all, as an industry, think people

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should

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be supported or or or impacted when they

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lose a tooth or teeth for that matter.

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I do get nervous. I think there's a

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lot of

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investment that needs to be made when it

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comes to supporting

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not just what dentistry looks like today, but

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what will it look like tomorrow.

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Because dentistry is changing rapidly, and it is,

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in some ways,

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the responsibility of those who can to be

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able to continue to make those investments, to

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devote the time, the effort, the energy, to

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be able to continue to impact patient care

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as well as

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how providers

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find, you know, positivity in their own professional

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growth and development. So there's a lot going

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on in dentistry, I guess, is the long

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way short way of saying my long answer,

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but, you know, I am excited. I think

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there's a lot of great things on the

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horizon to come.

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Definitely.

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It's really cool

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just to see the development of of dental

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implants over the years, and it's really awesome

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that you're able to, you know, donate all

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all that care at the

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oral health center of excellence and and give

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those that need the care,

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the ability to get it.

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Yeah. It's been it's like I said, it's

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probably one of the greatest honors of my

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professional career, if not my personal life, just

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to be able to be a part of

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something like that. I mean, we're able to,

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like I said, donate dental services to the

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people who need it the most at no

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charge to them. You know, the doctors that

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come through and get trained at the oral

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care center for excellence go back and make

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an impact

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in their own communities, giving back in their

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own way to the people who need it

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the most. And so it's just a kind

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of

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you know, it's a multiplicative

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effect of of care and caring we're able

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to deliver to those who need it. So

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pretty pretty amazing.

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Yeah. That's awesome.

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Our last question today as we start to

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kinda wrap up, in your view, what will

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the most effective health care leaders need in

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order to be successful,

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over the next 2 to 3 years?

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I think that's a really interesting question

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because there's so much that is changing in

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dentistry. And if you really think about being

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a leader in health care, I think there's

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a couple of things that we need to

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focus on. Number 1,

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you have to make a commitment to be

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an early

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adopter proponent

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and, quite frankly,

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a believer in the latest

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technologies

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that may or may not be

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part and parcel of how you, you know,

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think about dentistry today.

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You know, the next few years, we're going

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to seismic

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change

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in how we offer dental care, at least

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in North America and this country. Right? Whether

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it's through the use of how we leverage

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data, artificial intelligence

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technologies,

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digital technology when it comes

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to diagnostics, when it comes to manufacturing, when

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it comes to operations. There's so much evolution

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occurring within the industry.

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And

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I think as a leader, you have to

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be

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you have to take the responsibility that you're

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going to be at the forefront of that.

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It's not good enough to say we will

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continue to do things the way we've done

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them over the last 5 years, 7 years,

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10 years, and wait for those innovations. Because

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most of the innovations that we see today

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that are coming out are truly impactful to

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how we can actually deliver patient care and

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make meaningful

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positive

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benefit to the people we serve through technology.

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And so I think it's our kind of

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onus. It's the responsibilities

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on us as leaders in health care to

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be able to deliver

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innovative

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care

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evolving with the time, so to speak. Aspen,

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look. We we we've already seen how AI

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improves diagnostics and treatment planning, but there's still

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so much that we can apply within our

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own organization. Right? We're we're at the forefront,

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and we still think we're at the tip

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of the iceberg, so to speak. Right? Whether

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it's the patient experience, whether it's the clinical

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experience, whether it's the team experience. How do

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we make scheduling easier? How do we make

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it so that we can,

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create better environments for work life balance? How

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do we think that we can

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diagnose and treatment plan more predictably to get

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more predictable outcomes for the patients? There's so

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much going on right there. And as that

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rate of change increases,

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guess what?

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Patient expectation only moves

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as fast. Right? Like, patients

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really do expect

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that their health care providers live in the

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same world that they do, right, where there

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is a new innovation or a new smartphone

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coming out every year. And so I think

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as a dental support organization,

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you know, we are uniquely positioned to have

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the infrastructure

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and the resources

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to be able to drive innovation at scale

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and really to to change the, hopefully, the

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nature of the entire industry,

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which is not just exciting, but it's, you

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know, definitely something I'm very proud of.

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Yeah. Absolutely. I definitely agree with you on

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the impact of AI and and new tech

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and dentistry, and it is still so new.

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But as you're saying, it it's only gonna

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continue to progress and advance and improve, which,

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I think will just help everyone involved, whether

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that's a DSO,

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the dentist themselves, or patients.

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Yeah. It it's it's really you know, it's

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it's I I will tell you this anecdotally.

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You know, I've had the really great fortune

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of being able to lecture all over the

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world for many, many years, and,

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I've always been saying,

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you know, how we practice dentistry today isn't

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what we're gonna be doing in 2 years.

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And

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every year that goes by, it becomes

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more and more relevant and more and more

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impactful because it's so true. The rapid change

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of what we're doing

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as health care providers

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to heal people

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layered in with technology and innovation in ways

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that you know what? Like, I don't recognize

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dentistry today compared to when I went to

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dental school. And maybe that makes me a

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little old. Right? But the reality is it's

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exciting. It's refreshing,

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and it really does

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change the nature of how the the patient,

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the person who sits in our chair, how

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they experience the care they're given. And so

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it's just a really exciting time to be

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part of this profession.

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Yeah. Definitely. That makes some sense, and I've

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been hearing that,

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around the industry as well.

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Well, I wanna thank you for joining us

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today, doctor Ramon, and sharing your valuable expertise

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and and insights into the dental space.

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It's been a pleasure speaking with you today,

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and I look forward to connecting with you

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again in the future.

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You know what? Thank you for having me.

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It's it's really an honor and a pleasure

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to be able to spend a little bit

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of time talking with you, so thank you.

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Of course. Have a good one.

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Cheers. Take care.