WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:25.360 Rick Archer (00:00): 00:00:25.360 --> 00:00:31.520 Welcome to Buddha at the Gas Pump. I'm Rick Archer. My guest today is Lucas Bergenthal 00:00:31.520 --> 00:00:34.520 and here's a brief bio of Lucas. 00:00:34.520 --> 00:00:39.120 Four years ago, I experienced an awakening that opened up different worlds and granted 00:00:39.120 --> 00:00:44.240 me access to the Akasha through telepathy, leading to a higher state of consciousness. 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:48.400 Since then, I have dedicated my time to integrating this experience and helping others identify 00:00:48.400 --> 00:00:54.300 past influences that hinder the realization of their soul's full presence. I also assist 00:00:54.300 --> 00:01:00.700 animals through telepathy. I conduct workshops on esoteric teachings gathered since my awakening, 00:01:00.700 --> 00:01:06.220 providing keys to help people find their way home. And more with Lucas in a minute. 00:01:06.220 --> 00:01:10.820 Couple of housekeeping points. 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So you're 29 years 00:02:23.940 --> 00:02:30.540 old as I recall. Let's do a little bit of chronological bio first. I remember 00:02:30.540 --> 00:02:34.860 hearing you say that when you were a kid you had perceptions of things that you 00:02:34.860 --> 00:02:39.980 just assumed that everyone had but you later discovered they didn't. So what were 00:02:39.980 --> 00:02:45.820 you like as a little kid? How I was as a little kid is the story from my parents 00:02:45.820 --> 00:02:47.920 because I cannot remember it myself. 00:02:47.920 --> 00:02:48.500 Right. 00:02:48.500 --> 00:02:48.900 Me neither. 00:02:48.900 --> 00:02:55.300 I have a few moments I can remember, but what is most easy for me to actually 00:02:55.300 --> 00:03:00.160 explain is my latest awakening, because that leads to how I was as a kid. 00:03:00.160 --> 00:03:01.620 If that's okay, I go that way. 00:03:01.620 --> 00:03:07.140 I tried very much after I dropped school, I tried to fit in society, you know, with 00:03:07.140 --> 00:03:11.180 like figuring out what to do with life, try to be successful with this work or 00:03:11.180 --> 00:03:12.780 this work or what to do. 00:03:13.140 --> 00:03:18.500 And the more I tried to seek success, the more I found this empty hole inside of me. 00:03:18.500 --> 00:03:23.300 And at one point I just like, I completely burned out and I went into a depression 00:03:23.300 --> 00:03:25.540 for a year where I only slept two hours a night. 00:03:25.540 --> 00:03:29.220 And it was actually one day when my parents, they came to me and they said, 00:03:29.220 --> 00:03:31.580 you know what, Lucas, there's something we have to tell you. 00:03:31.580 --> 00:03:33.860 We have to tell you something from when you were a child. 00:03:33.860 --> 00:03:38.540 Then they started to tell me how I often talked about past lives, how often, 00:03:38.540 --> 00:03:42.180 like my own past lives, when I was sitting and playing with my toys, I 00:03:42.580 --> 00:03:46.420 Apparently said to my mom, like, mom, now I know how I died in my past life. 00:03:46.420 --> 00:03:48.820 And then I told the entire story and such. 00:03:48.820 --> 00:03:53.780 And that was more like a daily routine that I, that I often spoke about either 00:03:53.780 --> 00:03:58.900 past lives or like what will happen in the future or seeing spirits, you know, 00:03:58.900 --> 00:04:03.700 when someone left the family, left the body, I like waking up the entire night, 00:04:03.700 --> 00:04:05.300 just like watching the spirits and such. 00:04:05.300 --> 00:04:09.040 So my parents, they often saw that there was something in me that 00:04:09.040 --> 00:04:10.500 was awakened to these worlds. 00:04:10.820 --> 00:04:16.380 And the more I try to fit in society, the more I open an emptiness inside of myself. 00:04:16.380 --> 00:04:17.340 It kind of drained me. 00:04:17.340 --> 00:04:20.020 So that's how I was as a, as a kid. 00:04:20.020 --> 00:04:24.480 I was able to see my past lives and I was able to, to sometimes get 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:27.960 glimpses of the future, which will happen, which I said to my parents. 00:04:27.960 --> 00:04:32.260 Stuff like having a little brother or something that's like a more classic 00:04:32.260 --> 00:04:37.460 one, but stuff like that, but also seeing spirits that also made me afraid 00:04:37.460 --> 00:04:39.180 of the darkness when I was a kid. 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:44.200 So yeah, there's a lot of hindrances trying to fit into the world when you're so spiritual. 00:04:44.200 --> 00:04:49.480 Yeah, a lot of so-called spiritual people have a hard time fitting into the world. 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:53.240 They go through a struggle when they're younger. In fact, you have a picture of Saint Francis behind 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:58.120 you and I don't know if you've ever seen the movie Brother, Son, Sister, Moon about Saint Francis. 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:03.320 He came back from the Crusades and he was a sort of a macho guy and then he got really sick and 00:05:03.320 --> 00:05:08.440 then he came out of that and had this huge transformation. And then, you know, his father 00:05:08.440 --> 00:05:13.560 wanted him to work in the family clothing business or whatever it was. And in the movie at least he 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:20.280 took off all his clothes and threw them around and just wandered off. Yeah, he just said, "I can't 00:05:20.280 --> 00:05:25.160 make it in this world. I can't fit in." Somehow I'm trying to fit in a little bit more still, 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:31.000 I'm not walking around naked in the street at least. Yeah, well if you did, you'd get a nice 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:36.360 cozy jail cell to sleep in. 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:41.320 One of the things that I'm very dedicated to today is to help people that also have openings 00:05:41.320 --> 00:05:46.120 because there's so many people who have these kind of openings, it's so hard to fit into 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:48.980 society and it's about finding the balance, right? 00:05:48.980 --> 00:05:53.000 Because some people have an issue even though they're like very awakened and you know they 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:55.280 have these open abilities and such. 00:05:55.280 --> 00:05:59.880 So it's actually one of the things that I'm trying to really be in service of because I 00:05:59.880 --> 00:06:04.520 I know how devastating it can be if you don't know what's within you and you don't know 00:06:04.520 --> 00:06:07.000 how to react without you. 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:09.680 There's probably a lot of people watching today that feel that way. 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:13.800 Incidentally, I didn't mention in the beginning that you're in Denmark, you're Danish, in 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:16.540 case people are wondering what your accent is. 00:06:16.540 --> 00:06:18.600 So how do you help such people? 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:19.880 That's very difficult. 00:06:19.880 --> 00:06:21.880 That's the thing with the way I work. 00:06:21.880 --> 00:06:25.400 I don't have a formula of what I do. 00:06:25.400 --> 00:06:27.760 People sometimes call it soul therapy. 00:06:27.760 --> 00:06:33.680 I don't really have a name for it, but it's basically I'm trying to find the truth within them 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:37.760 Which they are not able to see themselves. I know that sounds very normal or something 00:06:37.760 --> 00:06:41.680 but that's like my go-to point and then every session or every 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:45.120 Meeting I have with someone goes different ways 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:47.680 but there is of course these kind of 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:52.560 Fundamental parts that i'm using of myself and i'm using like you mentioned i'm using 00:06:52.940 --> 00:06:55.580 telepathy and I'm using my opening to the Akasha and 00:06:55.580 --> 00:06:59.900 Also my opening to the past lives which I have today to help these people 00:06:59.900 --> 00:07:03.660 Seeing what's blocking them. What's causing suffering? I 00:07:03.660 --> 00:07:08.500 Actually figured you were gonna say that it's different for different people which makes sense 00:07:08.500 --> 00:07:11.380 You know, you wouldn't obviously do the same thing with everybody 00:07:11.380 --> 00:07:15.580 can you think of a typical session that maybe you had recently or and 00:07:15.580 --> 00:07:20.980 Just kind of give us a sense of how that went and what your experience was 00:07:21.460 --> 00:07:27.580 with the person and maybe what you saw in a subtler way about them and maybe what 00:07:27.580 --> 00:07:30.260 Transformation if any they underwent 00:07:30.260 --> 00:07:38.640 Recently I had a client that came to me and she saw one of my past interviews and she felt that kind of cold 00:07:38.640 --> 00:07:42.940 She didn't know what she came for. So I sat with her and she said I don't know why I'm here 00:07:42.940 --> 00:07:48.220 But I just feel like I need to have that session with you and then for me 00:07:48.220 --> 00:07:52.300 like I have to see the entire book of the soul's incarnation to figure out okay where is the 00:07:52.300 --> 00:07:57.900 chapter that something happened where we need to look into today to figure out what's blocking. 00:07:57.900 --> 00:08:04.540 So it's not like I see a book but that's the best symbol it's very subtle out there so it's very hard 00:08:04.540 --> 00:08:08.540 to say but I kind of like I scrolled and like you have the book and you scroll and I'm like okay 00:08:08.540 --> 00:08:14.940 there's something here I feel okay let's look into that. I basically read her without her saying 00:08:14.940 --> 00:08:21.900 anything, how she had problems in her relationship and how she had that she actually wasn't together 00:08:21.900 --> 00:08:28.300 with her husband anymore and she was trying to seek love from others and at the same time and 00:08:28.300 --> 00:08:34.620 why that happened because in her mind she didn't know what was happening. She didn't see that there 00:08:34.620 --> 00:08:41.020 was something that caused her suffering. She just went to me because she said I feel a cold, I don't 00:08:41.020 --> 00:08:45.820 know what it is. Of course I have suffering, I don't know what it is. And then I kind of guided 00:08:45.820 --> 00:08:50.860 in to see what it was and then we went into, okay, what is this about? Because one of the things that 00:08:50.860 --> 00:08:56.940 I really try to do is always pull the energy back. So it's what's within you and never about the other 00:08:56.940 --> 00:09:01.660 person. That can be very triggering for a lot of people because sometimes it's easy to put it to 00:09:01.660 --> 00:09:06.780 others. But I'm really trying to figure out what is the karmic pattern that is blocking you to see 00:09:07.340 --> 00:09:12.700 the truth within yourself in this situation that kind of sets you free. That's my belief, 00:09:12.700 --> 00:09:17.500 that when we see the truth and we become conscious about that truth, and we accept that truth, 00:09:17.500 --> 00:09:21.820 and we embody it, it can set us free. I have a couple of questions about that. 00:09:21.820 --> 00:09:27.420 One is, when did you start picking up on people's past lives? 00:09:27.420 --> 00:09:34.700 I became conscious about it four years ago in my awakening. I had a moment, I had an experience 00:09:34.700 --> 00:09:39.900 where all these kind of abilities came back to me, because it got suppressed for a long time. 00:09:39.900 --> 00:09:43.180 So within... Came back to you from previous lives or from your childhood? 00:09:43.180 --> 00:09:48.220 From my childhood, but also more strong, I guess it's more strong than my childhood, 00:09:48.220 --> 00:09:52.380 it feels like that at least. And even your childhood, you could say that was from 00:09:52.380 --> 00:09:55.260 previous lives, you probably had this stuff developed back then. 00:09:55.260 --> 00:09:59.580 Yeah, I believe so, because I know I've worked with it in past lives also, because you know, 00:09:59.580 --> 00:10:04.500 You know, that's one of the first thing I saw was like a story of my soul's own incarnation 00:10:04.500 --> 00:10:05.900 into this world. 00:10:05.900 --> 00:10:07.680 Yeah, I believe so. 00:10:07.680 --> 00:10:11.540 When we are being born with these abilities, it's because the soul have already unlocked 00:10:11.540 --> 00:10:12.820 it in the past life. 00:10:12.820 --> 00:10:13.820 Yeah. 00:10:13.820 --> 00:10:17.620 And a general principle we could state here is that everybody comes into this life at 00:10:17.620 --> 00:10:22.860 a certain level of evolution, which is pretty much the level of evolution at which they 00:10:22.860 --> 00:10:24.540 left the last life. 00:10:24.540 --> 00:10:26.980 You kind of pick up where you left off. 00:10:26.980 --> 00:10:28.380 Yeah, exactly. 00:10:28.380 --> 00:10:29.380 Exactly. 00:10:29.380 --> 00:10:33.860 how I use this like with the past lives because in the beginning it was very 00:10:33.860 --> 00:10:38.300 hard for me to see if someone when this opened within these three days and you 00:10:38.300 --> 00:10:42.480 know I started to just I was walking on the street and I saw a man and I saw how 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:47.020 he jumped out of a house in the past life or like how he raped or murdered 00:10:47.020 --> 00:10:50.820 someone you know I saw these kind of things just walking on the street seeing 00:10:50.820 --> 00:10:55.780 Wow was it like constant and therefore really overwhelming or just occasionally 00:10:55.780 --> 00:11:01.700 flash. It was constant in a way. If I walked with isolate myself to figure out how can I 00:11:01.700 --> 00:11:07.940 shut it down, shut it down five or ten of them, something like that. You'd get some image of them 00:11:07.940 --> 00:11:13.460 jumping out of a window or something. Yeah, exactly. You know, when the telepathic ability 00:11:13.460 --> 00:11:19.140 opened, I also got the thoughts. It came like if they were also like suicidal or what they were 00:11:19.140 --> 00:11:23.060 thinking about. And often it was very dark what people are walking around thinking about. 00:11:23.860 --> 00:11:28.100 I took a lot of time to really isolate myself to figure out how can I 00:11:28.100 --> 00:11:31.460 Shut it down shut it down 00:11:31.460 --> 00:11:37.700 Oh, yeah brain it so it will only be open when it's needed. And so did you accomplish that? Yeah, I did 00:11:37.700 --> 00:11:44.020 It was a very intense half a year where I felt like a lot of joy and a lot of light 00:11:44.020 --> 00:11:45.860 to life 00:11:45.860 --> 00:11:51.700 Vanished for a long time because it felt picking up on all this stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it was very intense very overwhelming 00:11:51.700 --> 00:11:53.540 And you know all the dark stuff 00:11:53.540 --> 00:11:58.900 But I went deep and I actually within half a year I learned how to only open up 00:11:58.900 --> 00:12:05.220 not even when they asked me but when they needed because you know, I also figure out when people, you know friends or like people and 00:12:05.220 --> 00:12:10.100 Who's also like a seeker and they heard about this this and they were like meeting me somewhere 00:12:10.100 --> 00:12:13.220 They're like, can you tell me something about i'm not doing it that way 00:12:13.220 --> 00:12:17.540 It's only like if people come to me with like and they really need help 00:12:17.540 --> 00:12:22.660 They want to heal then i'm opening up. I'm not opening up for for fun 00:12:23.060 --> 00:12:25.060 Yeah, it's not a party game. No 00:12:25.060 --> 00:12:29.380 You'd be a popular guy 00:12:29.380 --> 00:12:36.580 Well, that's the thing right I I had to make a choice also when I saw that I could become very popular like I could feed 00:12:36.580 --> 00:12:40.580 The part of myself who could seek affirmation and such 00:12:40.580 --> 00:12:46.020 And I need to drop that also and say that's not that's not the path. I want to go. I want to go this one 00:12:46.020 --> 00:12:48.340 Yeah, I was thinking about that 00:12:48.340 --> 00:12:52.500 maybe it was after our conversation that we had the other day, and maybe you and I actually 00:12:52.500 --> 00:12:57.620 talked about it. Yeah, we did, because we talked about the story of Jesus after his 40 days and 40 00:12:57.620 --> 00:13:02.660 nights in the desert being tempted by the devil, so to speak, and told that he could be famous and 00:13:02.660 --> 00:13:08.500 he could do all this stuff if he kind of got in league with the devil. And Jesus, I think that 00:13:08.500 --> 00:13:12.500 might have been the point where he said, "Get thee behind me, Satan." You know, he didn't fall for it. 00:13:13.140 --> 00:13:18.540 I can think of examples of people who had some kind of spiritual awakening and gained some 00:13:18.540 --> 00:13:24.200 kind of powers which were very attractive to people and they abused them. 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:28.960 They ended up using it as a tool for getting a lot of sex or taking advantage of people 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:33.680 in different ways and that to me is like a pitfall on the spiritual path which results 00:13:33.680 --> 00:13:40.000 in a huge downfall that you got to make amends for perhaps over many lifetimes later on. 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:44.320 Yeah, because you have a big responsibility when you open up to other people's energies. 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:49.840 It's one of those things that can break my heart much today actually to see because the more you 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:54.960 unveil the illusion into the truth and you see all these layers, the more I've done that, the 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:59.680 more I actually see that there is not many healers out there who's not kind of serving illusions, 00:13:59.680 --> 00:14:04.320 I could say that way, or serving like an unconscious pattern because the first experience I had with 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:09.760 this was I had my own kind of trip with this where I needed to figure out and we can go into that 00:14:09.760 --> 00:14:15.200 later on because I got tempted and I got also they also like the darkness also tested me you know 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:20.960 coming physically and you know with voices and such really like tried to break me. The next 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:26.960 question I'd like to ask is what is the experience like for you of seeing a past life and maybe you 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:31.920 could compare it to something that people are familiar with is it like a dream where you have 00:14:31.920 --> 00:14:36.800 a dream and you visualize somebody's life obviously it would be a waking dream because you're not 00:14:36.800 --> 00:14:39.840 out of sleep, is it primarily a visual thing? 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:42.140 Does it involve all the senses? 00:14:42.140 --> 00:14:43.320 How concrete is it? 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:46.960 Or is it just really subtle and vague like an intuition? 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:48.240 - It's very different. 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:49.960 There's many different ways I use it. 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:51.800 Sometimes I use it consciously. 00:14:51.800 --> 00:14:54.720 If someone sits with me, I know at three o'clock today, 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:56.100 I have a client and we sit today. 00:14:56.100 --> 00:14:58.440 So then I'm opening up myself. 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:01.680 Sometimes things also come to me in my dreams, 00:15:01.680 --> 00:15:04.300 or even in my knowing that there is something 00:15:04.300 --> 00:15:08.220 that I have to tell one of my students or one from my family, 00:15:08.220 --> 00:15:09.860 or something like that. 00:15:09.860 --> 00:15:11.820 So it works in very different ways. 00:15:11.820 --> 00:15:13.820 But I think what you also ask is like, 00:15:13.820 --> 00:15:16.340 for example, for my work, when I sit with people, 00:15:16.340 --> 00:15:18.340 how it comes to me that way. 00:15:18.340 --> 00:15:22.020 And it actually comes through impressions, through emotions. 00:15:22.020 --> 00:15:25.340 So the sensitivity that I have within myself, 00:15:25.340 --> 00:15:27.220 I feel those things within myself. 00:15:27.220 --> 00:15:30.380 And when I go in to feel it, I see a storyline. 00:15:30.380 --> 00:15:31.820 I see a happening. 00:15:31.820 --> 00:15:32.820 - So it starts with the feeling, 00:15:32.820 --> 00:15:35.220 but then it also becomes visual. 00:15:35.220 --> 00:15:36.540 - Yeah, it can become visual. 00:15:36.540 --> 00:15:38.260 I don't really use the visual anymore 00:15:38.260 --> 00:15:39.980 because it's not really necessary. 00:15:39.980 --> 00:15:41.980 But yeah, it did for a long time. 00:15:41.980 --> 00:15:43.660 I just kind of like shut it off 00:15:43.660 --> 00:15:45.980 because there was no reason for it anymore. 00:15:45.980 --> 00:15:47.500 And it was a little bit of distraction 00:15:47.500 --> 00:15:49.620 from me being present in the moment. 00:15:49.620 --> 00:15:51.540 I trained it in a way to know that 00:15:51.540 --> 00:15:53.460 what happened in that past lifetime, 00:15:53.460 --> 00:15:55.820 for example, like this woman we talked about, 00:15:55.820 --> 00:15:59.140 you know, that she felt it was actually a part of her 00:15:59.140 --> 00:16:02.140 that cheated on her husband in another lifetime. 00:16:02.140 --> 00:16:05.820 And through that she became a self-destructive pattern where she said, "I would never deserve 00:16:05.820 --> 00:16:06.980 someone again. 00:16:06.980 --> 00:16:08.980 I will never deserve love again." 00:16:08.980 --> 00:16:12.460 And that emotion she gave birth to in that past life, and that was still running in her 00:16:12.460 --> 00:16:15.780 mind like a voice saying, "I don't deserve this." 00:16:15.780 --> 00:16:20.740 And I think many people, they know this, but for the specific karmic pattern of her, it 00:16:20.740 --> 00:16:24.460 was that emotion that she needs to go in and heal that voice. 00:16:24.460 --> 00:16:26.660 So that emotion is what I feel in my body. 00:16:26.660 --> 00:16:31.740 And when I feel that emotion, I see the knowing of what happened, the experience of how that 00:16:31.740 --> 00:16:38.860 kind of emotion was being born and it's running today. Do you sometimes pick up on a series of 00:16:38.860 --> 00:16:44.460 lives for a person? Yeah. You might say I was a murderer but then in my next life I was a doctor 00:16:44.460 --> 00:16:48.940 helping people to help atone for my having been a murderer and then I did... I mean do you get a 00:16:48.940 --> 00:16:55.420 whole storyline going over many lives? Yeah I often try to narrow it into 10 lifetimes. Wow 00:16:56.620 --> 00:17:00.860 Even that's a lot. Yeah, but I don't see the entire life right for me 00:17:00.860 --> 00:17:05.500 It's just about figuring out what karmic pattern right now is blocking you for feeling more free 00:17:05.500 --> 00:17:09.520 If I see for example that woman and she had that in another lifetime 00:17:09.520 --> 00:17:16.460 I walk into the next lifetime or like I tap into that to see how did it affect that lifetime how it affected that lifetime? 00:17:16.460 --> 00:17:23.120 So i'm like jumping to see that karmic pattern like tracing it to see how that unfolded in different lifetimes 00:17:23.420 --> 00:17:29.580 So I don't go into other stuff. I don't go into stories about who she was as you were priest or queen or something 00:17:29.580 --> 00:17:35.580 I don't care about that because it's not important and that's one of the things that I realized myself because 00:17:35.580 --> 00:17:39.900 many of my clients have also been people who have had past lives and where they 00:17:39.900 --> 00:17:44.620 They heard that there was something very special and then the ego starts to go into that 00:17:44.620 --> 00:17:47.820 It's not always polite when I have to sit and say I don't see that 00:17:47.820 --> 00:17:52.220 Yeah, was it you I was talking to I was talking to somebody and he was saying, uh 00:17:52.540 --> 00:17:57.180 It's amazing how many people thought they were Cleopatra. I have had 30 of them or something 00:17:57.180 --> 00:18:02.220 talk about multiple personality disorder. I mean Cleopatra was a crowded body. 00:18:02.220 --> 00:18:09.740 One of the things that really drains me because people come to me often to get confirmation like 00:18:09.740 --> 00:18:14.140 I was this important I was this important and I get it because if we send deep suffering 00:18:14.140 --> 00:18:18.940 it's very nice for the mind and for the emotions to feel like you know what in the past life I was 00:18:18.940 --> 00:18:23.900 very important. Maybe I don't feel that important in this one, but I can rest on that. But it keeps 00:18:23.900 --> 00:18:29.740 holding us into pain and it's kind of hard to break the illusion often, but like to be the dream crusher. 00:18:29.740 --> 00:18:35.900 Well, I guess, you know, who was it Emerson or Thoreau said most men live lives of quiet 00:18:35.900 --> 00:18:42.220 desperation. A lot of people feel their lives are kind of mundane and boring and humdrum. And it's 00:18:42.220 --> 00:18:48.460 kind of a kick to think you might have been Mark Twain or Cleopatra or Napoleon or whatever. 00:18:48.460 --> 00:18:54.980 And this leads to an interesting question, which is how to discern between fantasy and 00:18:54.980 --> 00:18:56.180 reality. 00:18:56.180 --> 00:18:59.180 I think this is something you yourself must have to deal with, because I've heard you 00:18:59.180 --> 00:19:04.500 talk about Atlantis and living on other star systems and all that. 00:19:04.500 --> 00:19:11.180 Have you sometimes thought or realized that something you were thinking was actually just 00:19:11.180 --> 00:19:14.420 your imagination, and maybe it's not true after all? 00:19:14.420 --> 00:19:18.580 And is that something you have to kind of keep your eye out for to make sure you don't do 00:19:18.580 --> 00:19:19.580 that? 00:19:19.580 --> 00:19:22.420 I keep my eye out all the time. 00:19:22.420 --> 00:19:23.900 It's like a lifestyle. 00:19:23.900 --> 00:19:25.940 And that's also what I teach my students. 00:19:25.940 --> 00:19:28.860 You cannot conclude anything you see. 00:19:28.860 --> 00:19:33.700 Everything that I've said in my past, I cannot sit here today and say it's 100% the truth. 00:19:33.700 --> 00:19:37.580 I can only do my best always to serve to see if it's the truth. 00:19:37.580 --> 00:19:41.940 And I always question myself to feel in, is there a part of me somehow that feels this 00:19:41.940 --> 00:19:42.940 is not fully aligned? 00:19:42.940 --> 00:19:46.860 And if there's just like 1% of that, I dive into that. 00:19:46.860 --> 00:19:51.980 Of course, it sometimes happens that I've seen, well, this thing might not be fully... 00:19:51.980 --> 00:19:56.140 I'm more careful when I sit here, for example, like in an interview, because I know that's 00:19:56.140 --> 00:19:57.680 going to follow me. 00:19:57.680 --> 00:20:02.340 But if I sit with a friend or something, I'm not as careful, but I'm more careful with 00:20:02.340 --> 00:20:08.140 what I say on interviews that I've really dived into that to see, okay, there's no part 00:20:08.140 --> 00:20:14.460 of me that feels any sort of disturbance or disharmony, because that's how it comes to 00:20:14.460 --> 00:20:15.460 me. 00:20:15.460 --> 00:20:19.300 If there is a part of my ego that wants to say like part of the personality that wants 00:20:19.300 --> 00:20:23.340 to say something, that's why I know it's like part of the imagination. 00:20:23.340 --> 00:20:27.860 So it's like a full time job to always question everything that comes because things come 00:20:27.860 --> 00:20:29.300 down all the time. 00:20:29.300 --> 00:20:33.660 That's my daily life just comes down right so I have to filter through. 00:20:33.660 --> 00:20:36.880 That's really good and I'm glad to hear you say that because I know people and I've interviewed 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:43.360 people who don't seem to be able to distinguish between reality and fantasy or between imagination 00:20:43.360 --> 00:20:45.240 and something that might be true. 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:48.440 I remember this one guy who lived in Sedona. 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:52.960 Anything that popped into his head, and he had a good imagination, he assumed to be true, 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:54.920 and he was just kind of making stuff up. 00:20:54.920 --> 00:21:00.240 And some of the stuff I knew historically and factually was absolutely untrue. 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:02.640 So what purpose does that serve? 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:08.320 And you know the whole new age world is full of all kinds of fascinating stuff. 00:21:08.320 --> 00:21:11.080 But as someone put it, it's hostess Twinkies for the mind. 00:21:11.080 --> 00:21:15.080 I don't know if you have hostess Twinkies in Denmark, but they're like these snack foods 00:21:15.080 --> 00:21:18.680 that are real tasty, but absolutely no nutritional value. 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:20.040 Yeah, that's it. 00:21:20.040 --> 00:21:21.480 That's a perfect symbol. 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:22.480 Yeah. 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:23.800 Yeah, no, it's true. 00:21:23.800 --> 00:21:24.960 It's true. 00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:30.440 I also see was your truth at one point, like the more you dive in, and the more you seek 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:34.200 within for like finding the truth within yourself. You also realize of course just 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:38.040 things you said a couple of years ago that maybe was true at that point but 00:21:38.040 --> 00:21:42.960 now you just hit a new layer where that thing is not fully like resonating 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:46.600 with you anymore. That's good. I don't know if you've ever heard of Aldous 00:21:46.600 --> 00:21:50.680 Huxley but he was a philosopher and he said an interesting thing about 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:54.920 the scientific revolution. He said that the greatest innovation of the 00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:59.840 scientific revolution was not the steam engine or the accurate clocks or anything 00:21:59.840 --> 00:22:05.200 that. It was the development of the working hypothesis. Because we came out of an age, 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:10.960 the Middle Ages, where all kinds of religious dogma were considered to be true and you could 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:16.720 be killed if you questioned them. And so the scientific revolution gave people the liberty to 00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:22.960 question everything. And that's kind of the way I do it myself. If somebody tells me they see angels, 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:27.920 there'd be a lot of evidence for that. So it's kind of like a matter of living your life around 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:35.600 hypothesis. Let's see how much evidence we can find for it, and maybe we can, maybe we can't, 00:22:35.600 --> 00:22:41.040 but I'm not going to just absolutely believe it or absolutely reject it. And different things have 00:22:41.040 --> 00:22:46.000 different degrees of evidence, different degrees of credibility. If somebody tells me the Earth is 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:51.680 flat, sorry, I really don't think it is. But if they say alien beings have been visiting the Earth, 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:56.240 yeah, there seems to be a lot of evidence for that. So, it's kind of like a matter of living 00:22:56.240 --> 00:23:02.320 your life around what you can really know through experience rather than just imagining things. 00:23:02.320 --> 00:23:08.800 Yeah, I agree. For example, what I've realized is often like when I get these things, especially 00:23:08.800 --> 00:23:12.240 when it's something where I feel, okay, this could be on the edge, right? When we talk about 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:17.120 past civilizations or something, I'm trying to be very careful with what I say because 00:23:17.120 --> 00:23:22.240 I don't want to feed into like the entire thing you mentioned, you know, I cannot remember the 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:25.600 the name but that beautiful symbol you use with that dessert thing. 00:23:25.600 --> 00:23:27.100 Oh, the Hostess Twinkie. 00:23:27.100 --> 00:23:28.100 Yeah, exactly. 00:23:28.100 --> 00:23:29.480 I don't want to feed that. 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:31.080 So I'm trying to be very careful with that. 00:23:31.080 --> 00:23:36.040 But one of the things that I, for example, realized was, I know that when I remembered 00:23:36.040 --> 00:23:42.520 some past lives, where I could see that there was evidence behind it somehow, I knew how 00:23:42.520 --> 00:23:44.080 that felt in my body. 00:23:44.080 --> 00:23:50.040 So I was trying to be very cautious with how the different impressions that came from customers, 00:23:50.040 --> 00:23:51.500 how it felt in my body. 00:23:51.500 --> 00:23:54.580 And suddenly I realized, okay, there's a part that feels this way and there's a part that 00:23:54.580 --> 00:23:55.780 feels this way. 00:23:55.780 --> 00:24:00.180 And this way I might be more cautious about, where this way I'm still cautious, but I know 00:24:00.180 --> 00:24:04.020 this feeling there might be more resonance with it. 00:24:04.020 --> 00:24:05.900 So I dive into that. 00:24:05.900 --> 00:24:10.460 One of the things, for example, that I realized was how there is different kinds of civilizations 00:24:10.460 --> 00:24:11.460 at Atlantis. 00:24:11.460 --> 00:24:14.460 And one of the things that came to me was what is important for me to know with that is not 00:24:14.460 --> 00:24:19.380 to feed into this and this about that and that that's important, but more like to understand 00:24:19.380 --> 00:24:23.780 that there was a part in the Atlantean time where they were more in a dreamy state than 00:24:23.780 --> 00:24:28.420 they were in a waking state, like a waking state, like we sit today and feel like we 00:24:28.420 --> 00:24:33.420 are. It's more like the consciousness was flowing and the cosmos was flowing with everything. 00:24:33.420 --> 00:24:39.220 And for me, the message was to spread that. And I didn't fully share that until I realized 00:24:39.220 --> 00:24:44.420 that there was also sayings from East that often said like, you are closer to the truth 00:24:44.420 --> 00:24:49.180 when you're actually sleeping. So I start to like try to find other kinds of evidence 00:24:49.180 --> 00:24:53.580 that someone says the same before I take it out, if it makes sense. 00:24:53.580 --> 00:24:58.940 Well, that makes a lot of sense. I have long debates with skeptical and atheistic friends 00:24:58.940 --> 00:25:04.540 about this kind of thing. Speaking of Aldous Huxley, there's the idea of the perennial philosophy, 00:25:04.540 --> 00:25:08.700 where people all over the world in different cultures that had no way of communicating with 00:25:08.700 --> 00:25:15.100 each other came up with similar ideas about the nature of reality. And it lends credence to their 00:25:15.100 --> 00:25:21.180 theories or their philosophies. People are actually cognizing this kind of thing in every culture, in 00:25:21.180 --> 00:25:29.020 every age. I cannot sit here also and say that I have seen the full truth. People need to resonate 00:25:29.020 --> 00:25:33.580 with what I say and if they don't resonate it's just like drop it, you know, don't spend time on 00:25:33.580 --> 00:25:38.700 it. I got that confirmation like I've always felt like that, you know, and people can be very 00:25:38.700 --> 00:25:43.260 intimidated when they sit with me because some people they might ask questions and when I'm 00:25:43.260 --> 00:25:47.060 private with some friends or something and they ask me questions often I answer 00:25:47.060 --> 00:25:50.380 but people can also be very intimidating and say how do you know that and I'm like 00:25:50.380 --> 00:25:54.180 well you don't have to believe it. I mean just drop it if you don't believe it. I'm 00:25:54.180 --> 00:25:57.300 not sitting here and saying that this is like the truth and you have to follow it 00:25:57.300 --> 00:26:00.580 because I don't believe so. I believe that there are so many perceptions of 00:26:00.580 --> 00:26:04.780 life and I feel like I'm just still a student of that. I don't know anything I 00:26:04.780 --> 00:26:08.340 don't it's like the more I realize stuff the more I realize that I don't know 00:26:08.340 --> 00:26:13.060 anything. That's a great attitude. I think that might be what the Zen people meant 00:26:13.060 --> 00:26:18.020 by beginner's mind, no matter how advanced you are, it's actually good to have beginner's mind. 00:26:18.020 --> 00:26:20.900 - That makes sense. - To have the attitude of a beginner. 00:26:20.900 --> 00:26:24.660 Because it's true, I mean, relative to what could be known, possibly, 00:26:24.660 --> 00:26:29.220 nobody has more than a tiny fraction. - Yeah, exactly. And that's beautiful. 00:26:29.220 --> 00:26:33.940 - In any field, like science, I mean, Albert Einstein probably would admit that he's at 00:26:33.940 --> 00:26:36.820 the base of the mountain in terms of what could ultimately be known. 00:26:36.820 --> 00:26:42.820 - Yeah, and it's beautiful, right? It's beautiful that we get to find the different puzzles and 00:26:42.820 --> 00:26:47.100 And even when we feel like we have put it all, it's just like, we take that break and that 00:26:47.100 --> 00:26:50.780 break and suddenly we have the puzzle and we realize that puzzle is only like a break 00:26:50.780 --> 00:26:53.380 to another one and that's like, it keeps going that way. 00:26:53.380 --> 00:26:54.380 Yeah. 00:26:54.380 --> 00:26:55.380 It's beautiful. 00:26:55.380 --> 00:26:56.380 It makes life interesting. 00:26:56.380 --> 00:26:57.380 Yeah, it does. 00:26:57.380 --> 00:27:02.260 Well, let's take Atlantis as an example. 00:27:02.260 --> 00:27:07.020 Obviously we've heard a lot about Atlantis, Annie Besant and the Theosophical Society 00:27:07.020 --> 00:27:09.580 and all kinds of people have been talking about it for a long time. 00:27:09.580 --> 00:27:15.260 And I guess there are myths going back to ancient civilizations talking about it. 00:27:15.260 --> 00:27:19.540 And that for me is one of those things where, I don't know, it's an interesting working 00:27:19.540 --> 00:27:21.060 hypothesis. 00:27:21.060 --> 00:27:26.180 Maybe it's all just myth, or maybe there actually was such a place and there will eventually 00:27:26.180 --> 00:27:32.580 be some kind of archaeological or geological discovery that will confirm it or at least 00:27:32.580 --> 00:27:34.660 lend evidence to it. 00:27:34.660 --> 00:27:35.660 What is your thinking on that? 00:27:35.660 --> 00:27:39.460 I mean, you've had subjective experiences about it, I've heard you say things about it, but 00:27:39.460 --> 00:27:43.220 Where was it supposed to be and when did it supposed to end? 00:27:43.220 --> 00:27:47.620 I think I want to start by saying that I actually agree with you in the way that it's not really 00:27:47.620 --> 00:27:50.320 important for me if it happened or not happened. 00:27:50.320 --> 00:27:55.980 It's more like when it comes to me this way, there is a message that we should use today. 00:27:55.980 --> 00:27:57.180 What if it didn't happen? 00:27:57.180 --> 00:28:01.820 Honestly, I don't even care because what happened in the past, and this is why it's also not 00:28:01.820 --> 00:28:05.700 so good for my business of doing past life stuff, I don't care about the past anymore 00:28:05.700 --> 00:28:09.060 because I don't believe that the past exists anymore. 00:28:09.060 --> 00:28:12.800 But at the same time I get these kind of messages like there's something happened in the past 00:28:12.800 --> 00:28:18.600 that you can use today to help people get deeper into the now to like be most soaked into the 00:28:18.600 --> 00:28:19.600 now. 00:28:19.600 --> 00:28:21.080 I just wanted to say that. 00:28:21.080 --> 00:28:25.240 But as I see it with Atlantis, like Atlantis had three different kind of civilizations, 00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:27.760 like there's different timelines. 00:28:27.760 --> 00:28:31.680 Is what you're about to say all coming from something you have cognized or something you 00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:32.680 read? 00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:34.800 No, I am not a good reader. 00:28:34.800 --> 00:28:36.200 So you didn't read about this. 00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:38.240 This is something that came to you subjectively. 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:44.880 Exactly. When I get something, I try to find it in the book to get confirmations, but I don't know 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:49.280 where always where to search, right? So I have a lot of books and sometimes, you know, I sit here 00:28:49.280 --> 00:28:54.880 and there and of course I still read to like also learn myself. That's very important for me, but 00:28:54.880 --> 00:29:00.800 I'm not a big reader. So I haven't read any about this now. You should try the BatGap bot, ask that 00:29:00.800 --> 00:29:07.520 your questions. We'll do that. We'll do that. Keep going. Perfect. The thing that I saw was, 00:29:07.520 --> 00:29:12.240 and there was three different timelines of Atlantis. And I saw this because the way I 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:19.040 use telepathy is not only for me communicating with a dog or a horse or another human being, 00:29:19.040 --> 00:29:23.840 it's actually like telepathy is the connection between the soul and the human. Because there's 00:29:23.840 --> 00:29:28.080 a consciousness and there's a consciousness in between two souls, there's a consciousness and 00:29:28.080 --> 00:29:32.960 consciousness. And that thing that relates those two is telepathy. It's like a communicative 00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:40.400 bond, you can say. So when I got shown these things, it was like I was being taught. I had 00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:44.880 the opening in these three days and everything opened. And then I went to school, I went to class, 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:49.760 you know, to learn all these things. And what I saw was that there was three different civilizations 00:29:49.760 --> 00:29:55.760 of Atlantis. And this was important to understand the development of the human being, how the chakras 00:29:55.760 --> 00:30:00.400 were developed because the different chakras has a different kind of telepathic vibration 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.880 to use in different kind of healing techniques, different kind of ways to communicate with the 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:11.520 cosmos, if it makes sense. So far so good. So as I saw, there's three different stages of Atlantis. 00:30:11.520 --> 00:30:18.160 There was one long time ago where the soul started to take a physical form, a physical form, and that 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:23.120 was like what we call, I don't know what the English word for that is, it's not instincts, 00:30:23.120 --> 00:30:28.640 it's like you know the self-preservation what you call it you know the when the animals also you 00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:33.840 know they produce again and again you it's a little bit like instincts i don't know the english word 00:30:33.840 --> 00:30:38.800 actually that's a good word i mean okay the soul started to take a physical form in other words 00:30:38.800 --> 00:30:44.320 souls prior to that were existing as souls without a physical form but they wanted to incarnate 00:30:44.320 --> 00:30:51.680 embody in order to be able to function in a more material realm yes and the first thing that kind 00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:55.720 kind of got evolved was this kind of instincts, you know, the instincts. 00:30:55.720 --> 00:31:00.160 So it was like this, as I saw it, it was like this plasmic thing, you know, 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.960 from being an ether into this plasmic before it manifested into the physical. 00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.480 And the first thing that got involved was the consciousness of the instincts in 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:08.720 that physical being. 00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.800 So I saw that to like understand how the instincts work, 00:31:11.800 --> 00:31:16.280 because I got shown this for understanding how important the instincts are to 00:31:16.280 --> 00:31:20.520 follow today, what to follow, what not to follow. It's like a compass. 00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:24.800 if we should use the term that the soul is out in the cosmos, 00:31:24.800 --> 00:31:26.080 is out in the ether, 00:31:26.080 --> 00:31:28.280 and is communicating down to the body to say, 00:31:28.280 --> 00:31:30.240 you have to go this way to come home, 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:31.760 because right now you're trapped, you're lost, 00:31:31.760 --> 00:31:33.040 you have to go this way. 00:31:33.040 --> 00:31:34.240 There's part of the instincts 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:36.840 that helps you follow that way. 00:31:36.840 --> 00:31:39.120 We're very disconnected from the instincts today 00:31:39.120 --> 00:31:41.120 because of the way we live. 00:31:41.120 --> 00:31:43.200 - Intuition is another good word here. 00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:45.880 - Yeah, but I don't use that word for this 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:48.800 for another reason, because we come into that. 00:31:48.800 --> 00:31:51.120 I see it like there's different kinds of ways of telepathy, 00:31:51.120 --> 00:31:56.280 like I said. So the instincts is associated with the solar plexus chakra when we talk 00:31:56.280 --> 00:32:02.640 about chakras. So I saw this to understand, okay, if I start to understand the consciousness 00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:09.080 of my solar plexus chakra, I can start to follow the instincts that something from the 00:32:09.080 --> 00:32:14.200 cosmos is showing me to go that way. And that's what I do today. It's also what you can call 00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:17.840 spontaneously living, right? It's not like I jump out of the cliff if I feel like my 00:32:17.840 --> 00:32:22.260 instinct tells me that, and it's not like, it's not like that, but there's a very 00:32:22.260 --> 00:32:26.820 delicate part of the instincts that actually show you the way back. 00:32:26.820 --> 00:32:31.140 And I say way back because I believe that today we are just confused, 00:32:31.140 --> 00:32:33.180 but we already know everything. 00:32:33.180 --> 00:32:34.700 We just need to realize it again. 00:32:34.700 --> 00:32:38.340 So that's why I say it's like a way back and like a remember, but at the 00:32:38.340 --> 00:32:39.940 same time, cosmos always evolves. 00:32:39.940 --> 00:32:40.940 So that's the paradox. 00:32:40.940 --> 00:32:45.280 That was like the first civilization, but I saw like there was three different 00:32:45.280 --> 00:32:46.780 kinds of civilizations of Atlantis. 00:32:47.340 --> 00:32:52.220 The intention with what I share now is to understand that I saw that because I saw the development 00:32:52.220 --> 00:32:57.540 of the human being with the different kind of energy forms and to use that to help people 00:32:57.540 --> 00:32:58.540 find back. 00:32:58.540 --> 00:33:03.140 So that's why when I sit and I talk about my sessions, talking about that past life, 00:33:03.140 --> 00:33:08.100 that's very conditioned because many things happen like I don't speak with the person 00:33:08.100 --> 00:33:13.700 about where I sit and have telepathic communication with the energy system and the chakras to 00:33:13.700 --> 00:33:15.660 start to awaken this. 00:33:15.660 --> 00:33:19.500 I'm not entirely clear on the last point you made, but keep going keep explaining 00:33:19.500 --> 00:33:26.240 When I do sessions with people I said for the human being I talk about the past life with the trauma 00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:31.980 With the identification with these karmic blockages, but at the same time that I sit and speak with that 00:33:31.980 --> 00:33:36.060 I use a telepathic connection to talk with the energy system 00:33:36.060 --> 00:33:40.620 You know the being the different chakras because I believe that all the chakras in the person as I see it 00:33:40.620 --> 00:33:45.100 They have their own kind of vibration. So you're picking up on two sources of knowledge 00:33:45.180 --> 00:33:50.620 One is you're tuning into some past lives, and the other is you're tuning into maybe their subtle 00:33:50.620 --> 00:33:55.820 body, the different energy centers in the body which they might not even be aware of. And then 00:33:55.820 --> 00:34:02.540 another thing I've heard people say is that the dweller in the body, anybody's body, is actually 00:34:02.540 --> 00:34:09.100 just a tiny subset of the total soul, and that our full potential as a soul couldn't possibly even be 00:34:09.100 --> 00:34:14.940 contained in this body, which reminds me of that line from Star Wars where Obi-Wan Kenobi said to 00:34:14.940 --> 00:34:18.940 Darth Vader, if you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly 00:34:18.940 --> 00:34:23.260 imagine. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but you're sort of tuning into this 00:34:23.260 --> 00:34:30.180 sort of higher soul or higher self or larger reality of what the person is than they themselves 00:34:30.180 --> 00:34:31.180 realize. 00:34:31.180 --> 00:34:37.420 Yes. And I believe myself. That's why the sessions has these beautiful miracles happening 00:34:37.420 --> 00:34:41.940 sometimes like this woman I share with you. She just broke down completely and said, I 00:34:41.940 --> 00:34:44.620 You spent 40 years trying to go to psychotherapy, 00:34:44.620 --> 00:34:46.620 trying to go this, and you spend one hour 00:34:46.620 --> 00:34:48.660 and you healed me, what did you do? 00:34:48.660 --> 00:34:50.980 And I was like, I didn't do anything. 00:34:50.980 --> 00:34:52.580 It was something in you that opened. 00:34:52.580 --> 00:34:55.340 I cannot force an opening, I can just invite it. 00:34:55.340 --> 00:34:57.300 But if the person is ready, it happens. 00:34:57.300 --> 00:34:58.860 So it's like, I didn't do it. 00:34:58.860 --> 00:35:01.020 It's not me, it's actually you who did it. 00:35:01.020 --> 00:35:02.940 That's very important for me to remember 00:35:02.940 --> 00:35:05.980 and also like always share that I'm not doing anything. 00:35:05.980 --> 00:35:07.020 I'm inviting something, 00:35:07.020 --> 00:35:08.860 but it's only when the person is ready. 00:35:08.860 --> 00:35:10.140 - You're a catalyst. 00:35:10.140 --> 00:35:10.980 - Yeah. 00:35:10.980 --> 00:35:15.220 how a catalyst works, it sort of facilitates the chemical reaction without 00:35:15.220 --> 00:35:19.700 interfering with it or something. It just enables it to happen in a way that it 00:35:19.700 --> 00:35:25.180 otherwise wouldn't. Exactly, this is how I use telepathy. I use it for the cosmic 00:35:25.180 --> 00:35:29.660 consciousness and the cosmic being the subtle body to open. But people get 00:35:29.660 --> 00:35:33.860 freaked out. I see people, they are afraid to like come close to me because they 00:35:33.860 --> 00:35:38.060 feel like, "Oh, he's reading my mind." "He's gonna hear all my dirty thoughts." 00:35:38.060 --> 00:35:42.940 Exactly, sometimes it's like when I've been out traveling and do workshops and some from 00:35:42.940 --> 00:35:47.460 the workshops they come to introduce their kid to me and then like the mother says and 00:35:47.460 --> 00:35:51.340 this guy he's the one doing telepathy like the kid is standing behind the mother saying 00:35:51.340 --> 00:35:53.980 I don't want him to read my mind. 00:35:53.980 --> 00:35:54.980 People can do that kind of thing. 00:35:54.980 --> 00:36:00.060 I was seeing Amma one time, you know Amma the so-called hugging saint and I was sitting 00:36:00.060 --> 00:36:04.340 with a friend about 30 feet away from her off to one side and she was sitting on the 00:36:04.340 --> 00:36:08.020 couch doing her thing and music's playing and she's hugging all these people and everything 00:36:08.020 --> 00:36:13.060 and I started telling this friend something I really shouldn't have started to tell him and 00:36:13.060 --> 00:36:18.100 she just turned and stared at me like cut it out you know and I said okay and I just stopped telling 00:36:18.100 --> 00:36:24.100 the guy. But that's actually if we can go a little into that because now when we talked about instincts 00:36:24.100 --> 00:36:28.180 and we talked about intuition where I said for me intuition is a little bit different than the 00:36:28.180 --> 00:36:36.340 instincts because one of my practices so to speak is that I believe that telepathy is a kind of 00:36:36.340 --> 00:36:43.540 cosmic being. It's like a consciousness that connects two consciousnesses, a soul and a human 00:36:43.540 --> 00:36:48.900 and a human and a soul. There is a consciousness that connects all these kind of things like a web 00:36:48.900 --> 00:36:54.420 that makes us able to relate to each other and communicate not only physically and like with 00:36:54.420 --> 00:36:58.540 with using the voice, but also emotionally and thinking and intuitively. 00:36:58.540 --> 00:37:03.540 For example, when I devote myself, I'm like the same way as St. 00:37:03.540 --> 00:37:06.100 Francis said, "Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace." 00:37:06.100 --> 00:37:12.020 I devote myself to that consciousness to say, "I don't know what I need to do. 00:37:12.020 --> 00:37:14.660 You know, and I just follow that." 00:37:14.660 --> 00:37:19.740 I'm not reading people's mind, but very often what I say, people say, "Oh my 00:37:19.740 --> 00:37:20.820 God, I thought about that." 00:37:20.820 --> 00:37:21.860 And they say, "You read my mind." 00:37:21.860 --> 00:37:22.700 I said, "No, I don't." 00:37:23.020 --> 00:37:28.300 This is intuitive telepathy for me, because intuition is between two souls when they relate 00:37:28.300 --> 00:37:29.300 towards each other. 00:37:29.300 --> 00:37:31.620 I don't know what's happening up here in the souls level. 00:37:31.620 --> 00:37:37.220 I'm in the physical, but if I connect to this, I'm in the cosmic flow. 00:37:37.220 --> 00:37:42.220 So what those people might think about, I can also think about, but it's not necessarily 00:37:42.220 --> 00:37:44.340 that I know they think about this. 00:37:44.340 --> 00:37:47.000 For me, that's like working with intuition, if it makes sense. 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:48.800 It's following the cosmic flow. 00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:50.400 That is not my intuition. 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.800 It happens through me and I'm just following it. 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:54.720 It reminds me of trees. 00:37:54.720 --> 00:37:58.920 I have this book, I think it's called The Wisdom of Trees, that Pamela Wilson sent me. 00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:01.000 She's been on Bat Cap a couple of times. 00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:05.560 There's this whole thing about how, I think it's called the mycelium or something. 00:38:05.560 --> 00:38:09.460 There's this whole network of fungi or something that's under the ground. 00:38:09.460 --> 00:38:11.580 It's like the internet for trees. 00:38:11.580 --> 00:38:13.640 And all this information gets passed through it. 00:38:13.640 --> 00:38:17.800 And like if there's some kind of infestation of some beetles or something that are going 00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:22.880 to hurt the trees, the word spreads around the forest and the trees can maybe develop some 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:26.500 kind of chemical to repel the beetles or something. 00:38:26.500 --> 00:38:30.300 Or if there's a drought or all kinds of other things like that, but they actually have this 00:38:30.300 --> 00:38:32.000 network of communication. 00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:37.240 And so we do too, in terms of the collective consciousness, as Jung put it, Carl Jung, 00:38:37.240 --> 00:38:42.520 or some deep level at which we're actually all the same person, and therefore telepathy 00:38:42.520 --> 00:38:46.200 is probably mediated through that deep underlying field. 00:38:46.200 --> 00:38:50.840 Yeah, exactly. Many spiritual teachers, they also say, your thoughts is not yours. 00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:57.880 It just happened through you, but we somehow intend to personalize it. And the more we personalize it, 00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:02.920 the further away we come from telepathy, because we're not connected to that. We go into our own 00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:08.920 little bubble. So that also means like when I go like a process myself, when there's like a trauma, 00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:13.240 a grief or something, and I know that I identify even more now with like the thoughts and the 00:39:13.240 --> 00:39:17.640 the personality and all these kind of things, I have to close for that because I don't know if 00:39:17.640 --> 00:39:22.280 it's the cosmic flow that comes through me. It's probably my own kind of things I have to 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:28.520 cleanse out again and purify again. It's that part where the thoughts that come to you is a cosmic 00:39:28.520 --> 00:39:33.720 flow but the more we identify with it the further away we come from being with that flow somehow. 00:39:33.720 --> 00:39:38.520 The thoughts still come, that's what I realized, the thoughts still come but if you don't identify 00:39:38.520 --> 00:39:42.520 with them you can actually use them for a way better purpose, you don't have to figure stuff out. 00:39:42.520 --> 00:39:47.720 It's another way of putting it, if the wave realizes that it's really the ocean and it's 00:39:47.720 --> 00:39:52.760 actually essentially one with all the other waves, even though they appear different on 00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:57.820 the surface, then I'm not sure what the utility of that would be, but at least it's a more 00:39:57.820 --> 00:40:02.640 realistic vision of what's going on instead of the wave thinking, "Okay, I'm this isolated 00:40:02.640 --> 00:40:06.480 wave and I'm completely separate from that wave over there and that wave over there." 00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.320 They're not, and it's not the reality. 00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:09.680 No, exactly. 00:40:09.680 --> 00:40:13.880 And that's actually why for me, when I go through a process and I feel like I'm being tested 00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:17.960 and like losing faith and all these kinds of things, it's actually like going back to this 00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:23.400 connection with the telepathic cosmic consciousness to feel like I'm going back to the flow because 00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:27.000 then I'm not trying to figure stuff out by myself because the more I do that, the more 00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.360 I separate and believe I'm just the wave. 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:31.360 Not just the wave. 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.240 So I'm trying to get back to that sometimes. 00:40:34.240 --> 00:40:38.120 I've realized I don't need to figure stuff out about traumas and I don't need to figure 00:40:38.120 --> 00:40:39.120 stuff. 00:40:39.120 --> 00:40:44.560 figure anything out. I just need to let that flow happen because it purifies itself. And 00:40:44.560 --> 00:40:46.160 that's pretty beautiful, actually. 00:40:46.160 --> 00:40:48.920 Are you aware of the work of Rupert Sheldrake? 00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:49.920 No. 00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:55.800 He's been on Batgap. He's this British scientist who has been studying what he calls morphogenetic 00:40:55.800 --> 00:41:02.440 fields and how there's different fields actually for different species and for kind of more 00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:08.640 universal field for everything and things like that. And he gives examples of how certain 00:41:08.640 --> 00:41:16.280 ideas will crop up independently to different people. For instance, Sir Isaac Newton developed 00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:20.920 calculus but some other guy developed calculus at the same time without collaborating with 00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:25.080 Newton and there have been other things like that. And then he wrote a book called Dogs 00:41:25.080 --> 00:41:30.120 That Know When Their Owners Are Coming Home. He actually studied this very carefully where 00:41:30.120 --> 00:41:35.800 the owner would do something very unpredictable or take a taxi and then they observe the dog 00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:37.560 and the dog would be like waiting at the door. 00:41:37.560 --> 00:41:41.880 It would get up and go as soon as the owner was intending to come home. 00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:47.040 And Amy and our dog, if we even think that we maybe should take a walk, 00:41:47.040 --> 00:41:48.880 the dog will come running down the hall. 00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:49.280 Right. 00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:53.920 You have to be aware of what you're thinking, because if you just think about it, 00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:56.080 you're not doing it, you're going to disappoint your dog. 00:41:56.080 --> 00:41:56.360 Right. 00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:57.360 Exactly. 00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:02.200 In fact, Irene gets upset with me if I even say the word walk or give any kind of 00:42:02.200 --> 00:42:06.320 hint because then if we're not going to actually do it, the dog will be very disappointed. 00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:08.320 We have a very psychic dog, he'd like it. 00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:09.320 Yeah. 00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:10.320 And they are great teachers. 00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:11.580 My dog was also very psychic. 00:42:11.580 --> 00:42:16.640 He was the one that really taught me about telepathy from one being to another because 00:42:16.640 --> 00:42:21.280 what I was thinking, he picked up immediately, no matter what it was, you know, I feel I 00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:25.280 really have to be aware of what I'm thinking because I don't want to hurt him, you know, 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:27.420 and I don't want to like point him and such. 00:42:27.420 --> 00:42:30.200 So that was like a great descent teacher, I could say. 00:42:30.200 --> 00:42:35.240 And he knows how to spell too, like he's afraid of flies because I think he's afraid of the 00:42:35.240 --> 00:42:38.120 fly swatter because we get it out to swat the fly. 00:42:38.120 --> 00:42:41.840 So then we started spelling it, F-L-Y, but then he picked up on that. 00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:43.380 We can't even say F-L-Y anymore. 00:42:43.380 --> 00:42:44.760 So now we call him Hank. 00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.720 Hey, Hank's in the house. 00:42:46.720 --> 00:42:47.720 Exactly. 00:42:47.720 --> 00:42:50.520 The beauty of this is that there's so much to learn from animals. 00:42:50.520 --> 00:42:55.640 There's so much to learn from animals because they don't have that idea of like the personality, 00:42:55.640 --> 00:42:57.160 the ego I want to call it now. 00:42:57.160 --> 00:43:03.480 I know there's many animal therapists and also other telepathy people out there who says that 00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:08.680 they have an ego. I don't believe so because I don't see an animal that says I am sad. 00:43:08.680 --> 00:43:14.040 Sadness just happens in them. They don't say I am happy. Happiness just happens in them. 00:43:14.040 --> 00:43:18.520 So for me, there is not an I that identify with it. It just happens. That's the flow. 00:43:18.520 --> 00:43:22.680 And when you are in that flow, you pick the impressions of others also, right? Because 00:43:22.680 --> 00:43:26.680 we all have that kind of emotional body. We all have the subtle body, the aura field, 00:43:26.680 --> 00:43:31.400 that radiates out what we think and what we feel. And it's like a radio station and they're just so 00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:38.520 open that, for example, when you say "F-L-I" you think about the fly, which means that that 00:43:38.520 --> 00:43:43.640 impression goes straight in. Doesn't matter what you say, they pick that up because what you sense, 00:43:43.640 --> 00:43:48.520 what you think here and feel, they pick it up and they learn the words to put it into that. So that's 00:43:48.520 --> 00:43:53.880 it's a beautiful example. It's funny you brought up the radio station because I was just thinking 00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:59.680 that as a good analogy for what you've been describing, which is that the radio doesn't 00:43:59.680 --> 00:44:06.360 create the music. The radio is just a medium or an interface with the electromagnetic field, 00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:11.680 which other radios can also access and express the same music or different music if they're 00:44:11.680 --> 00:44:14.960 on a different frequency. So I think what you were saying in the last few minutes is 00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:20.880 that your ability to do this stuff is not your ability, it's more like you're just 00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:26.400 an instrument again lord make me an instrument of thy peace you're just an instrument for this and 00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:34.080 with that orientation you know you have the right intentions and motivations and if you 00:44:34.080 --> 00:44:41.120 began to appropriate it like oh i'm special then you'd get in trouble yes exactly because like i 00:44:41.120 --> 00:44:47.040 see it it's not special to be telepathic like i said we all have it your consciousness i'm a 00:44:47.040 --> 00:44:52.000 consciousness, that that connects us is the telepathic bond, which means that I'm not special 00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:58.080 because I pick up on it, we all pick up on it. I've just focused on maybe learning to feel it 00:44:58.080 --> 00:45:03.440 even more, but we all pick up on it all the time. All the time we pick up the telepathic impressions. 00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:10.080 You can see how there could be civilizations, perhaps have been, in which people don't need 00:45:10.080 --> 00:45:15.600 to talk out loud because they're just so tuned in, like a couple who's been married for so many 00:45:15.600 --> 00:45:19.440 years they can sort of pick up on each other's thoughts or whatever but even more developed. 00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:24.560 You might imagine there are species who don't even have vocal cords you know because they're 00:45:24.560 --> 00:45:31.040 so good at telepathy is the way they function. Yeah exactly and I believe there is both out in 00:45:31.040 --> 00:45:35.680 space that there's many many species that don't need voice because they are so profound in this 00:45:35.680 --> 00:45:40.960 they don't need to talk they just they're just in communication with each other and I also believe 00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:46.720 there are also beings on this earth that does the same. Look at the way that some birds, 00:45:46.720 --> 00:45:51.040 they're dancing with each other in these big groups, right? Oh, the starlings, it's called 00:45:51.040 --> 00:45:57.040 the murmuration of starlings, where thousands of them just all move in synchrony. And scientists 00:45:57.040 --> 00:46:01.360 actually don't know quite how they do that. Exactly. That's what I call telepathy. 00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:08.960 We were talking earlier about Atlantis and things like that, whether it's a myth and so on. Recently, 00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:13.760 a friend was telling me about Joseph Campbell's The Power of Myth series, which I had known about, 00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:18.000 but I've never actually sat down and watched it. But I want to do that. I want to make a point to 00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:23.600 watch it. He was a friend of George Lucas, actually, and was a lot of inspiration for 00:46:23.600 --> 00:46:29.760 the Star Wars series. In a way, it almost doesn't matter whether something really happened or 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:36.560 whether it's just a myth, because it can have the same value for the society either way. 00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:42.320 Yeah, exactly. When I began to get this from Atlantis, I felt like if people don't believe me, 00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:47.680 I took it very personal in the beginning, but I learned within a couple of years. 00:46:47.680 --> 00:46:51.120 Because I knew with myself, you know, it doesn't really matter if it's like, 00:46:51.120 --> 00:46:55.120 if it happened or not happen. It's like the message that comes with it. It's like, 00:46:55.120 --> 00:46:59.760 that's important because the message that comes with it is something we need to use today. 00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:04.880 It doesn't really matter if it happened or not. And honestly, there's too much curiosity 00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:13.040 That dwells upon the past in ancient civilizations. I understand because it's also like finding back to being more in flow and such 00:47:13.040 --> 00:47:18.480 But like you said it doesn't always serve the best to dwell too much in the past or the future 00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:20.400 exactly 00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:25.680 I believe that's the separation. It's like the full separation we have of like being with the one beloved 00:47:25.680 --> 00:47:32.880 That's what I call the the cosmos and what people call god also in these kind of things. I believe that separation the more we 00:47:33.420 --> 00:47:39.420 Understand them all we realize because it's easy to sit mentally and say well the past doesn't exist in the future doesn't exist, right? 00:47:39.420 --> 00:47:46.620 But fully experience it. That's another thing but first for that we need to drop the seeking of these two things 00:47:46.620 --> 00:47:49.500 The personality really wants to hold on to it 00:47:49.500 --> 00:47:52.660 Which is not to say we can't learn from the past 00:47:52.660 --> 00:48:00.700 Someone said those who forget the pastor or don't learn from from history are doomed to repeat it 00:48:01.740 --> 00:48:07.820 Obviously we can learn what is a good thing to do and what's not a good thing to do based upon what past people have done 00:48:07.820 --> 00:48:10.620 So I don't think that's what you're saying, right? 00:48:10.620 --> 00:48:11.820 No, no, no, no, no 00:48:11.820 --> 00:48:15.020 I mean more in the way of what I felt in the past or you know 00:48:15.020 --> 00:48:18.620 Like sometimes we hold on to the past too much. That's what I mean 00:48:18.620 --> 00:48:23.520 I want to reflect upon the unconscious patterns to enlighten them into consciousness 00:48:23.520 --> 00:48:25.740 like if we lament over 00:48:25.740 --> 00:48:32.140 our childhood and what our parents did and that kind of thing and just keep obsessing about that when we're 50 or 60 years old. 00:48:32.140 --> 00:48:38.060 Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's what I mean. I've seen that also with with many people they go to 00:48:38.060 --> 00:48:41.120 breathwork every week and they go to every ayahuasca 00:48:41.120 --> 00:48:44.540 10 times a year to heal the same trauma 00:48:44.540 --> 00:48:47.980 They hold on to that past so much that they kind of feed it again 00:48:47.980 --> 00:48:50.780 They feed the same trauma by trying to heal it 00:48:50.780 --> 00:48:55.100 Because you put your attention on it and that to which you put your attention grows stronger in your life 00:48:55.100 --> 00:49:00.060 Yeah, exactly. So that's what I mean, because I totally believe and I do that with myself 00:49:00.060 --> 00:49:06.940 all the time. I reflect upon the past to see unconscious patterns. And I also reflect upon 00:49:06.940 --> 00:49:11.180 the things that I see and with that we can learn from history and we can learn from all 00:49:11.180 --> 00:49:16.860 these things. So I believe that's important, but it's like embodied into this moment. 00:49:16.860 --> 00:49:23.580 Okay, so dwelling on past situations only reinforces them and is not really the best 00:49:23.580 --> 00:49:29.020 way of resolving such traumas, what is the best way or most efficient way? Let's say you go to 00:49:29.020 --> 00:49:34.060 a psychotherapist or something and you're talking about all your childhood issues and things like 00:49:34.060 --> 00:49:38.860 that and you go on for years like that lady said she's been the therapist for years and never gotten 00:49:38.860 --> 00:49:45.260 anywhere and perhaps actually reinforced stuff. If that's really an inefficient way of going about it 00:49:45.260 --> 00:49:50.380 what is a... Some thoughts and I see that that's one of the things that I use in my workshops also 00:49:50.380 --> 00:49:52.380 Where do you carry them? 00:49:52.380 --> 00:49:55.020 They do lodge in our systems 00:49:55.020 --> 00:50:02.780 Of course, I also believe that the trauma and like the energy I see that also like the energy is inside the body 00:50:02.780 --> 00:50:08.860 There is like an energy. So of course it can help to do some kind of work for that 00:50:08.860 --> 00:50:11.260 but one of the things that I think I want to 00:50:11.260 --> 00:50:17.100 Say is that for me there's a difference between emotions and feelings and thoughts and I see that that's one of the things that I 00:50:17.100 --> 00:50:18.860 use in my workshops also 00:50:18.860 --> 00:50:26.060 Where emotions is like the wave it comes like waves where thoughts and feelings they're like the energy pattern is like a circle 00:50:26.060 --> 00:50:29.020 So what I used to say is like you're running the hamster wheel 00:50:29.020 --> 00:50:34.460 So the more you think about it the more you're just like running around and like you're just noticing that the same thing 00:50:34.460 --> 00:50:36.780 and what I realized with myself was 00:50:36.780 --> 00:50:44.220 Let me say this way. I realized how many incarnations i've had which means that we all have that this little incarnation 00:50:44.220 --> 00:50:47.340 We have right now. It's just like a blink of an eye, right? 00:50:47.340 --> 00:50:51.100 And it's over. Right. And then we have a new one. How important is this incarnation? It's not that 00:50:51.100 --> 00:50:56.140 important. That's what I realized. So why would I spend time on dwelling with something where it 00:50:56.140 --> 00:51:00.700 will already be somehow forgotten in the next one? Then I know, okay, then we have the next one. And 00:51:00.700 --> 00:51:05.820 that's why I say I work with 10 past lives. It's just 10 blink of an eye. It's not that much from 00:51:05.820 --> 00:51:12.460 the perspective where I see it. So why would I spend so much time trying to figure it out? Instead, 00:51:12.460 --> 00:51:21.420 I see myself as a soul having an experience like an experiment also. So instead of trying to figure 00:51:21.420 --> 00:51:27.180 out the content of the trauma for example, I'm more interested in the mechanics of the mind. 00:51:27.180 --> 00:51:32.940 I'm starting like oh now I'm going this way there's like part of my personality that goes 00:51:32.940 --> 00:51:38.460 this way, part of it that goes this way and every time I do this I actually go into the faith to the 00:51:38.460 --> 00:51:43.820 the divine, whenever it's ready to be taken, just take it. I know it's very easy to say this way, 00:51:43.820 --> 00:51:48.940 and of course for every situation it is a little bit different, but that's like the main practice 00:51:48.940 --> 00:51:52.620 to say for me. I'm not trying to figure it out with the mind because then I'm nourishing it. 00:51:52.620 --> 00:51:57.180 I am looking into it and I'm feeling it and through the feeling I'm finding into the place 00:51:57.180 --> 00:52:01.260 where I feel I'm ready to give it over. And if I'm not ready to give it over, it's fine. We cannot 00:52:01.260 --> 00:52:07.820 like rip it off, right? It's like if we would rip off like the mold of the snake before the mold was 00:52:07.820 --> 00:52:12.940 ready. It happens when it happens, that's my faith. When it's ready, it will drop. 00:52:12.940 --> 00:52:18.220 Yeah, well, it's funny you said that it's easy for you to say, you said something like that, 00:52:18.220 --> 00:52:23.420 because you said something like, it's easy for me to say, or maybe I was just thinking that, 00:52:23.420 --> 00:52:28.940 but there's a difference between a description and a prescription. So, you can describe how you 00:52:28.940 --> 00:52:35.020 operate, how you function, but then if you're going to be a teacher of some kind, then how do you 00:52:35.020 --> 00:52:42.540 empower or enable other people to achieve the same perspective. Maybe they need meditation, 00:52:42.540 --> 00:52:47.180 maybe they need some techniques, maybe they need this, that, or the other thing. They can't just 00:52:47.180 --> 00:52:53.980 copy your way of thinking without being in your state of consciousness. Yeah, this is why my work 00:52:53.980 --> 00:52:59.260 will go more and more over to have more students which I can initiate in my cosmic consciousness, 00:52:59.260 --> 00:53:04.620 the opening I have. How can you initiate them? How can you impart it or convey it? 00:53:04.620 --> 00:53:10.460 It's a way of being part of their daily life, you know, with the things they go through. 00:53:10.460 --> 00:53:17.340 I see the human body as a filter. A student comes to me and then that student, it's like an 00:53:17.340 --> 00:53:21.900 apprenticeship. It's not like you take a course in one week and then you're initiated or something. 00:53:21.900 --> 00:53:27.020 It's like I'm part of the flow of your life and through that we see what kind of test that the 00:53:27.020 --> 00:53:32.420 customers and the universe puts into you to see how can this situation help you 00:53:32.420 --> 00:53:37.180 purify your filter even more. Because the more purified the filter is, the more I 00:53:37.180 --> 00:53:42.220 have experienced myself that what doesn't serve you anymore that way it 00:53:42.220 --> 00:53:45.660 will drop when it drops. Because like I see even every feeling is its own 00:53:45.660 --> 00:53:50.580 intelligence and that intelligence what I have discovered is that even that 00:53:50.580 --> 00:53:55.700 feeling it doesn't want to hold on. It's not like it wants to hold on. I'm not 00:53:55.700 --> 00:53:59.580 talking about the thought now, I'm talking about the emotional trauma that happened, 00:53:59.580 --> 00:54:03.980 that has his own intelligence. I believe everything has its own intelligence. The 00:54:03.980 --> 00:54:08.180 stone has its own intelligence, the water of course, the water we have scientific 00:54:08.180 --> 00:54:11.140 proof of that today, but I also believe that the feelings have, because that's 00:54:11.140 --> 00:54:15.300 what I see, that's what I feel, that's what I work with. I don't see that even 00:54:15.300 --> 00:54:19.420 the feelings wants to feel stuck there, you know. I believe that everything is 00:54:19.420 --> 00:54:24.800 always seeking towards freedom, towards liberation, so it's like corroborating 00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:28.640 with that. Of course it's about giving love to everything and that sounds very 00:54:28.640 --> 00:54:34.080 easy and like cliche but it's more about helping people to opening up for 00:54:34.080 --> 00:54:38.700 themselves to that which they need to open up to through cosmos so they can be 00:54:38.700 --> 00:54:42.600 a filter because then things being taken when it doesn't serve them anymore 00:54:42.600 --> 00:54:47.720 because often these traumas is also what locks us to not being fully open to 00:54:47.720 --> 00:54:51.960 these kind of abilities because if we use it from a traumatic point of view we 00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:54.960 We don't know if we're serving illusions or we're serving the truth. 00:54:54.960 --> 00:55:01.000 Yeah, your statement, "the feeling has its own intelligence," some people have experienced 00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:06.200 that they actually are possessed in a way by things, and they don't realize it until 00:55:06.200 --> 00:55:10.000 the thing comes out or releases, and then they actually realize that there was some 00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:15.440 kind of entity that was occupying, at least in part, their makeup. 00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.180 And there might be many entities, and they have to be purified or purged. 00:55:19.180 --> 00:55:20.920 So that's one way of looking at it. 00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:26.560 can be looked at in other ways like just neurophysiological or something. Like in the Bible, you think 00:55:26.560 --> 00:55:34.680 about Jesus releasing or casting out demons, and the demons are clinging, holding on, but 00:55:34.680 --> 00:55:38.640 ultimately you get the impression they're happy to be cast out because it was a miserable 00:55:38.640 --> 00:55:42.820 existence being a demon, tormenting or occupying somebody. 00:55:42.820 --> 00:55:49.580 This is a big question. And for that, we need to go deeper into the entire game of the darkness. 00:55:49.580 --> 00:55:52.940 can go that way. I would love to go that way. Yeah, let's get into it. 00:55:52.940 --> 00:55:57.940 For me, I try to separate it between darkness and evilness. I try to 00:55:57.940 --> 00:56:02.260 conceptualize it this way for like the mind to understand it better. Where I see 00:56:02.260 --> 00:56:07.300 darkness as lower entities of a lower consciousness that doesn't know better. 00:56:07.300 --> 00:56:12.660 Right. So for example, when these kind of entities like this feeling it comes into 00:56:12.660 --> 00:56:17.020 you, they often come through the astral plane because the astral plane is where 00:56:17.020 --> 00:56:23.820 the feelings get manifested. So through our astral body these feelings they pop in and we in the mind 00:56:23.820 --> 00:56:28.140 we start to identify with. This is why astral travel is like we need to be careful what we are 00:56:28.140 --> 00:56:31.580 doing and that's also why we need to be careful with the planners and what we're doing because 00:56:31.580 --> 00:56:36.220 we don't know what we open up to and we get stuff down and even we feel good right after you don't 00:56:36.220 --> 00:56:40.140 know what's going to happen in next life because you put something in. I'm harsh with that because 00:56:40.140 --> 00:56:44.780 I've seen so much of this and it breaks my heart that people don't know what they're doing actually. 00:56:44.780 --> 00:56:51.260 but this kind of things is like the lower conscious entities they are still like serving the light 00:56:51.260 --> 00:56:57.740 if we should use that concept they just don't know better if one conscious being is here and another 00:56:57.740 --> 00:57:01.740 one is up here this conscious being cannot see that one up here because if you could see it it 00:57:01.740 --> 00:57:08.220 will be up here that feeling feeds of what it knows if that feeling feeds of jealousy if it feeds of 00:57:08.220 --> 00:57:13.260 anger or something because that's what it knows it just needs to preserve itself the same way as we 00:57:13.260 --> 00:57:18.140 need. We need food, we need love, we need this and this and whatever we need. That's where we are. 00:57:18.140 --> 00:57:22.860 That feeling only know one thing to feed off and that's what it's activate in us. But that doesn't 00:57:22.860 --> 00:57:27.980 mean it serves the bad in us. Sometimes they don't even want to be there. They just like they have to 00:57:27.980 --> 00:57:33.420 exist, they have to feed itself, nourish itself. Because when it actually does this, like the next 00:57:33.420 --> 00:57:37.660 step for it might be another feeling that might be a little bit more high vibrant or whatever we 00:57:37.660 --> 00:57:43.740 should call it, and suddenly it evolves. So I don't see that darkness as being bad, I just see it as 00:57:43.740 --> 00:57:50.060 a lower consciousness that needs to be enlightened. They're trapped in the role, it's kind of like, 00:57:50.060 --> 00:57:54.380 I'm reminded of again, I keep thinking of Star Wars today for some reason, but when Darth Vader 00:57:54.380 --> 00:58:01.020 finally got killed, he finally broke free of his Darth Vader role and realized his original 00:58:01.020 --> 00:58:05.020 consciousness and was grateful for being liberated that way. 00:58:05.020 --> 00:58:10.460 Exactly. And this is why I think I can share this now. I haven't shared it before, but 00:58:10.460 --> 00:58:16.460 I've also done something that would look like exorcism in today's society, but I would not 00:58:16.460 --> 00:58:20.940 call it exorcism because people they judge it to understand like it's the devil and people feel so 00:58:20.940 --> 00:58:26.460 bad about it. Well, that's not how I see it. I see a feeling that completely corrupts the person 00:58:26.460 --> 00:58:31.580 in the moment. Sometimes I can use like a telepathic connection. I'm not that skilled 00:58:31.580 --> 00:58:36.220 that I can do it every time. That will be amazing but I'm not that skilled and I'm not sure it's my 00:58:36.220 --> 00:58:40.860 path either. Sometimes when I can pick up that frequency I can communicate with it and then it 00:58:40.860 --> 00:58:47.100 pops up and what I realize is often when it pops up that the person sometimes they sleep, sometimes 00:58:47.100 --> 00:58:50.540 they can't even remember, sometimes they can't remember. It's very different compared to where 00:58:50.540 --> 00:58:55.820 they are themselves but it comes up because it also wants to be set free. So it's actually like 00:58:55.820 --> 00:59:00.940 a corporation. So that's why I can of course not call it like exorcism, but it's a little bit the 00:59:00.940 --> 00:59:05.500 same because something like an entity leaves the body and it doesn't feel good in the moment. It 00:59:05.500 --> 00:59:09.660 doesn't. It does feel good afterwards. Yeah, afterwards. Yeah. I mean, can that be dangerous 00:59:09.660 --> 00:59:16.220 for you locking horns with these entities? Not this one. This is very common because they don't 00:59:16.220 --> 00:59:20.380 have any bad intention. When we talk about evilness, it's different. Then I need to be 00:59:20.380 --> 00:59:25.500 way more aware. Because evilness is that which is conscious, but just choose it in another way. 00:59:25.500 --> 00:59:33.180 When you think about it, anything that's negative or evil, any person, any being which is playing a negative role, 00:59:33.180 --> 00:59:38.780 it's not their ultimate destiny. And therefore, it's not ultimately what they really want to be doing. 00:59:38.780 --> 00:59:44.940 They're just in it at that time. And as Jesus said, "Forgive them, Father, they know not what they do." 00:59:44.940 --> 00:59:50.460 You wouldn't want to be one of the guys nailing him to the cross, or you wouldn't want to be a guard in a Nazi death camp. 00:59:50.460 --> 00:59:57.500 but people have gotten stuck in these dark destinies, dark roles, and ultimately everyone 00:59:57.500 --> 01:00:03.100 needs to be liberated from all such things and rise to their full height of possibility. 01:00:03.100 --> 01:00:07.580 Yeah, and that's exactly where something like traumas and these kind of wounds can really, 01:00:07.580 --> 01:00:14.620 they can really call upon bad energy that sucks the life out of you, if I should use that dramatic 01:00:14.620 --> 01:00:19.500 phrase, but that's what I see sometimes. But at the same time, we should not judge what is evil, 01:00:19.500 --> 01:00:24.300 because let's be honest, most of us have had troubles in our life where we have an argument 01:00:24.300 --> 01:00:29.980 with someone, maybe an ex-lover or a friend and it never really got healed. So that person might 01:00:29.980 --> 01:00:34.940 see you now as someone that was manipulative or narcissistic or something and you maybe see that 01:00:34.940 --> 01:00:39.660 person as the same. Who's right in this? There's two different perceptions seeing the same kind 01:00:39.660 --> 01:00:45.740 of reality in the middle. Who's right? So we can never know what actually is like, what is evilness. 01:00:45.740 --> 01:00:52.160 Look at what happened with Jesus people thought he was evil. You have seen that with many masters afterwards. Many have been executed 01:00:52.160 --> 01:00:55.420 Change of topic 01:00:55.420 --> 01:00:59.980 We've talked about cognizing the past and you cognizing past lives and all that stuff 01:00:59.980 --> 01:01:05.740 Do you ever have future visions feelings for what might be happening in the next? 01:01:05.740 --> 01:01:13.180 Several decades or whatever. Yeah, but I have a lot of those but i'm very careful with saying it because I know that the future 01:01:13.180 --> 01:01:18.940 is always in movement. So I'm not one of those who use it to like talk about futures. I don't believe 01:01:18.940 --> 01:01:24.700 so. It's very, very rare that I do that because if I say something, people might cling to it and I 01:01:24.700 --> 01:01:30.220 don't want that because then they cling to something that I could see wrong or maybe it just changed 01:01:30.220 --> 01:01:36.700 because something happened and the future changed. So I'm very cautious with talking about that. But 01:01:36.700 --> 01:01:41.980 yeah, I have divisions and I have many of them. A lot of people seem to feel and actually a lot 01:01:41.980 --> 01:01:47.260 of ancient traditions have said that we might be heading into some very dark times, difficult 01:01:47.260 --> 01:01:52.620 times, a lot of people might die, you know, whether it's climate change or plagues or whatever, but that 01:01:52.620 --> 01:01:56.940 if we get through all that, it'll be a very bright future, some kind of age of enlightenment or 01:01:56.940 --> 01:02:04.620 something. Does that concur in general with your vision? Yeah, it actually does. And it began 01:02:04.620 --> 01:02:09.180 when I had that opening, I said, "Oh my God, this world is like going a very dark place now. 01:02:09.180 --> 01:02:11.420 It's like, it's not going to be easier right now. 01:02:11.420 --> 01:02:15.540 And I felt so hopeless until I realized we just have to dive very deep so we can come 01:02:15.540 --> 01:02:16.540 up on the other side. 01:02:16.540 --> 01:02:21.260 And that's why I don't resonate with all these kinds of challenges that says that some galactic 01:02:21.260 --> 01:02:24.780 federation will come and save us in three months from now or something. 01:02:24.780 --> 01:02:26.300 We have to dive deep. 01:02:26.300 --> 01:02:31.500 And honestly, somehow the deeper we go, the more we can also grow the other way, right? 01:02:31.500 --> 01:02:34.980 It's like the native, they speak about the tree, the deeper the roots are, the taller 01:02:34.980 --> 01:02:35.980 the tree can be. 01:02:35.980 --> 01:02:41.580 Their mysticism they also talk about, you know, the deeper you go in your unconsciousness the more the consciousness can grow 01:02:41.580 --> 01:02:43.900 It's like different concepts, but it's the same truth 01:02:43.900 --> 01:02:50.220 They talk about and I see the same like we are going a very very tough place, but I believe it's for the better good 01:02:50.220 --> 01:02:52.140 but right now it's 01:02:52.140 --> 01:02:54.140 tender in the heart and being humble and 01:02:54.140 --> 01:02:56.540 You know, my feeling is that the more 01:02:56.540 --> 01:03:03.100 Spirituality can be infused into the collective consciousness the less difficult it will have to be. Yeah, I agree 01:03:03.580 --> 01:03:09.900 I agree and right now we just see that the spirituality just bursted up and especially in the hippie times right where 01:03:09.900 --> 01:03:16.940 We work from the suppression and then suddenly this beautiful kind of love and peace and all this harmony started to come 01:03:16.940 --> 01:03:23.660 and now there's like this pattern of this commercialized spirituality where it's not so much about 01:03:23.660 --> 01:03:25.420 actually 01:03:25.420 --> 01:03:29.420 Meeting yourself. It's more about feeding the personality in some ways 01:03:29.980 --> 01:03:35.420 But again, if you see from a higher perspective, which I always try to do, I just see it's like, 01:03:35.420 --> 01:03:40.060 it's just a phase. Yeah, it's just a phase and it just has to happen because the spiritual 01:03:40.060 --> 01:03:44.220 entity, if we could say it that way, it's not the best way to say it, but 01:03:44.220 --> 01:03:49.980 it also has to evolve down here with all the human beings and we have to integrate and process it. And 01:03:49.980 --> 01:03:54.940 of course, the ego needs to take a little ride with that also and feel good and special clothes 01:03:54.940 --> 01:03:58.940 and all the malice and being the best, and all these kind of things, right? 01:03:58.940 --> 01:04:02.860 This question may be outside your expertise, but it relates to what we're talking about. 01:04:02.860 --> 01:04:08.220 Do you feel that there have to be cycles? And obviously there are cycles, so maybe there have 01:04:08.220 --> 01:04:14.860 to be, but very often after a big war, everything gets better again, like, you know, the World War II, 01:04:14.860 --> 01:04:20.300 and now Germany and Japan are close allies. It was a horrible thing to have gone through, but 01:04:20.300 --> 01:04:26.220 now those countries are not apparently inclined to behave that way anymore. Do you have any 01:04:26.220 --> 01:04:31.180 thoughts about that perspective? Yeah, I think I actually want to, I want to bring it back to 01:04:31.180 --> 01:04:35.980 ancient civilizations again just a little bit, because one of the things that I see is that when 01:04:35.980 --> 01:04:41.900 a group of conscious people reach a very high enlightened state, it cannot stay like that. 01:04:41.900 --> 01:04:47.820 It has to drop again. We saw that with Atlantis this way, but I also saw it like there was one 01:04:47.820 --> 01:04:52.700 One of these openings I had was, again, we can call it a story, whatever, it's not important, 01:04:52.700 --> 01:04:54.340 it's more like what's behind it. 01:04:54.340 --> 01:05:00.700 I saw this temple way back in the time in the East where they used the sexuality through 01:05:00.700 --> 01:05:05.500 the tantric in a very pure and beautiful way where it actually liberated a lot of souls 01:05:05.500 --> 01:05:07.220 and enlightened a lot of souls. 01:05:07.220 --> 01:05:11.100 But suddenly, you know, it's like every peak when there's like a very strong light, at 01:05:11.100 --> 01:05:15.400 one point the darkness comes and goes over the light again. 01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:16.900 Sometimes those things happen. 01:05:16.900 --> 01:05:21.140 I see like everything is a cycle, you know, and it's the same with religion. 01:05:21.140 --> 01:05:27.340 As I see it, when someone experienced the divine God, whatever we want to call it, 01:05:27.340 --> 01:05:30.720 that's not something you mentally just are capable of understanding. 01:05:30.720 --> 01:05:31.940 It's like an experience. 01:05:31.940 --> 01:05:36.840 So it's like, you see the snake, you see if the snake should be the symbol of God, 01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:38.720 for example, let's use that term. 01:05:38.720 --> 01:05:41.960 Then you have a prophet, you have Jesus, you have the saint or something 01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:43.420 that experienced that snake. 01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:50.880 And then suddenly that snake goes out to spread that to other beings for them to experience the snake themselves 01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:55.200 But when the body of that saint drops then what you have left is the mold 01:05:55.200 --> 01:06:00.640 So then somehow the followers of that saint they don't have the snake to experience 01:06:00.640 --> 01:06:06.240 They have the mold to experience of the snake which is not the full experience and suddenly this starts to roll 01:06:06.240 --> 01:06:12.560 And then new illusion starts to come and this is also how I see how the world is today 01:06:13.200 --> 01:06:17.040 Also because it's like a polarity, right? This entire universe is polarity. 01:06:17.040 --> 01:06:20.880 And when something really good happens, something really bad also has to happen. 01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:26.080 It's like the joy and the sadness is only for the mind to judge whether it's good or bad, 01:06:26.080 --> 01:06:31.760 but both things happen. So that's also the same, for example, when I have had past lovers or I've 01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:36.720 had past friends or something, where they started to put me on the pedestal and said, "Please take 01:06:36.720 --> 01:06:41.680 me off it. Please take me off it because I know if you put me up here, at one point you have to 01:06:41.680 --> 01:06:46.080 put me down here. It's like the polarity of life. Maybe not in this life, but then in another 01:06:46.080 --> 01:06:50.880 lifetime. And I don't want that. So please just put me off it. This metaphor of the snake you 01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:55.520 just used, I think you're referring to the loss and revival of knowledge. You know how a saint 01:06:55.520 --> 01:07:01.440 comes and there's a huge surge of enlightenment and then he dies and then next thing you know, 01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:05.920 after a couple of centuries, people are being persecuted, you know, in the name of that 01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:10.320 teaching or it's just gotten totally warped and distorted. So it's kind of like knowledge 01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:16.480 crumbles on the hard rocks of ignorance. And it happens to whole societies as well as religious 01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:21.360 or spiritual revivals. It just keeps going in cycles. But perhaps growth is accomplished 01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:26.000 through cycles. You can't just have, like you're saying, you can't just have the positive all the 01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:32.720 time. No, exactly. Going back to the myth of Icarus, it's like trying to go to the sun and 01:07:32.720 --> 01:07:38.320 the wings is melting off. We need the cycles. We see that in the seasons also, right? Most places, 01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:44.960 at least. We need both and that's very important, I believe so. I know the further I come out to feel 01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:49.600 the beautiful divine things that I cannot even explain by words. There's a lot of things I 01:07:49.600 --> 01:07:54.480 cannot explain but I know when these things have happened to me, I just know okay there's a cycle 01:07:54.480 --> 01:08:00.400 now where I have to go as deep low and I need to not judge that and just like embrace that. 01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:07.280 It can be very hard sometimes but I believe so 100%. I believe the other thing is a bypass for sure. 01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:16.400 >> Shadow work. A couple of questions came in. Here's one from Natalie Butler in London. She said, 01:08:16.400 --> 01:08:20.960 "I have been told twice that this is my first human life and that there are a few others here 01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:25.520 from the same place as me. I wonder where I would normally reside or incarnate." 01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:27.600 >> So what's the question? 01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:31.920 >> I guess she's wondering if this is her first human life, 01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:36.560 where has she been for her other ones? Was she an animal? Was she on another planet? 01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:43.680 that kind of thing. Of course. Irene says how would he know? Of course I'm not gonna go 01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:49.160 into the individual if that's okay because that takes too much. I rather 01:08:49.160 --> 01:08:52.960 want to like focus on like the flow of the conversation. Yeah the principle of 01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:57.240 it. Yeah of course I also see that new souls comes down but I also have to 01:08:57.240 --> 01:09:00.800 admit that it's not many souls that comes down in this time. What we could 01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:05.000 also call the Kali Yuga. Many of the souls came before that because it can be 01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:09.240 very overwhelming to come down in the middle of that like a soul and take form and not have the 01:09:09.240 --> 01:09:16.760 experiences before but those experiences can also come from there's many different layers of this 01:09:16.760 --> 01:09:22.440 but let me just say that i don't see it like you have been an animal the last time because 01:09:22.440 --> 01:09:26.920 it's another kind of soul they have at the end it's the same soul i know but animals they have 01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:33.960 soul groups where they drop down in a group where there's a bigger soul and that soul has maybe 01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:39.320 hundred drops, which is the animal, they have a totally different game. 01:09:39.320 --> 01:09:43.640 Like those birds we were talking about, they could in a sense be one big soul. 01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:44.600 Yes, exactly. 01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:46.840 Or a school of fish or something like that. 01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:53.080 Perfect example. And therefore, I see it as a lie. I see it as a big lie that they say out there that 01:09:53.080 --> 01:09:57.640 your grandfather can be the bee or the worm. But I also have to say, I also understand why it's 01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:02.120 being said, because it creates humbleness to the people to think about what they do with the 01:10:02.120 --> 01:10:08.840 animals. So I get the game, but from my cosmic point of view, I don't see it as... Of course, 01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:12.760 it's possible. It happens that you can incarnate, but it's not something that really happens. 01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:17.880 Yeah. Well, I mean, if every worm eventually became a human, we'd have a math problem. I mean, 01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:22.280 there are probably thousands of worms in our yard, but there's only two humans on this property. 01:10:22.280 --> 01:10:25.640 And that's true of the whole earth. And, you know, if you count all the mosquitoes and the 01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:30.840 butterflies and everything else, there would have to be some kind of conglomeration. If those things 01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:36.360 have individual souls, they'd have to somehow conglomerate to join together in a mass to form 01:10:36.360 --> 01:10:41.640 the soul of a higher being, because the higher beings just aren't as numerous as the insects and 01:10:41.640 --> 01:10:47.320 whatnot and the fish. Yes, exactly. And it's important to remember that there is difference. 01:10:47.320 --> 01:10:51.720 All souls, they have their own experience. And it's not only the human experience that 01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:57.880 actually is very beneficial. All experiences on earth is very beneficial. And that's also why we 01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:02.360 should be humble to all beings because there's something to learn from all because they all 01:11:02.360 --> 01:11:09.160 have a specific soul that comes with a certain kind of delicate wisdom. So yeah of course it's 01:11:09.160 --> 01:11:14.200 possible that it's her first lifetime. I don't really see it that often, not before the Kali 01:11:14.200 --> 01:11:19.640 yoga at least, because many souls... we need some time before that. If you meet these kind of souls 01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:24.440 it could be people with very heavy autism or something you know where all the different 01:11:24.440 --> 01:11:28.840 worlds is very open and the senses is very it's very hard to be in a physical body. 01:11:28.840 --> 01:11:31.720 Because they haven't had much practice at it. 01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:37.320 Yeah exactly normally it's possible but I also have to say again I'm not going to talk about 01:11:37.320 --> 01:11:43.080 this personalized question so I'm not saying if it happened for her or so but there's also many 01:11:43.080 --> 01:11:49.000 psychics out there who's saying this to people I've had many many people saying it's their first 01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:53.880 lifetime. The psychics have told them that? Yeah as life readers saying well this is your first 01:11:53.880 --> 01:12:00.360 lifetime. How would they know really? Yeah exactly. You cannot say that because maybe you could just 01:12:00.360 --> 01:12:05.000 not see them. You're saying that it's like the Cleopatra thing. Only one person was probably 01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:10.760 Cleopatra and probably people having been born for the very first time as a human it's kind of 01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:16.840 a rare thing you're saying. Not as common as psychics would have you believe. Yeah but I see 01:12:16.840 --> 01:12:21.800 many people who believe it's their first incarnation. Especially they hear from someone because many 01:12:22.520 --> 01:12:28.360 past lives people say it out there but you can also feel it yourself. There is something for that to 01:12:28.360 --> 01:12:33.560 dive into because that can also be a karmic pattern that creates an illusion from your past to look 01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:39.160 into and that can be very very interesting to look into because you can open up to a new kind of 01:12:39.160 --> 01:12:45.240 value from your soul that has been blocked because of a pattern that tells you well this is my first 01:12:45.240 --> 01:12:50.040 because there's something you might not see which if you go in and look at it you can open up to 01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:56.920 beautiful yourself. You say you've remembered a lot of your own past lives. If you had to apply 01:12:56.920 --> 01:13:04.600 percentages, what percent were human? What percent were on some other star system or whatever? Can 01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:11.000 you actually answer a question like that? No. Okay. When I had the opening, many of the past 01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:18.520 lives came to me. Those I know today, I have not been curious about the rest. Because I know if 01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:22.840 something comes to me, it's because I need it and if I don't need it, it's the best. 01:13:22.840 --> 01:13:26.600 It won't come. So I haven't dived into it. It's not my priority. 01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:29.000 Okay, it's a hostess Twinkie. 01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:29.720 Yeah, exactly. 01:13:29.720 --> 01:13:37.240 Okay, let's do another question here. This one is from Rita Sponenberg from Pennsylvania. 01:13:37.240 --> 01:13:43.240 A lot of this conversation is reminding me of the interview with David Spangler from years ago. 01:13:43.240 --> 01:13:47.000 David Spangler was one of the founders of the Fyndhorn place up in Scotland, 01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:51.320 who had all kinds of subtle perception of fairies and elves and subtle beings. 01:13:51.320 --> 01:13:57.000 The negative entities just needing to survive, he used the analogy of the sewage in his lake, 01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:01.240 the trees, when he was whacking the ferns and picking up on their reactions. 01:14:01.240 --> 01:14:07.640 So basically this is a guy, and I've interviewed a number of such people, who was from an early age 01:14:07.640 --> 01:14:11.960 able to have subtle perception and see all kinds of things that people don't ordinarily see. 01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:18.040 and it's been the nature of his whole life and that's why he was instrumental in the 01:14:18.040 --> 01:14:22.360 finhorn community. I don't know if you have any comments on what you just said. 01:14:22.360 --> 01:14:30.680 Nothing really pops up to me. Well it's interesting about whacking ferns. Do you find it difficult to 01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:37.080 navigate life sometimes because you kind of feel the pain of you know you don't want to step on a 01:14:37.080 --> 01:14:44.360 bug on the sidewalk? Yeah, I think I can very easily say that when I open up to other beings this way, 01:14:44.360 --> 01:14:49.320 I stopped eating anything from animal because I could not deal with that pain. It was not possible 01:14:49.320 --> 01:14:53.800 for me to be without pain anymore. I actually stopped with the meat before that, but I could 01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:58.600 not eat anything from it because it was too painful and I needed to figure out like what's 01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:04.440 up with the plants? How's the spirit working with this? And it took me a while to realize that 01:15:04.440 --> 01:15:09.800 the plants, they are also here to serve us in some ways. Right now we are not in the place of that, 01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:14.520 but if there's one thing I could share about how I look at the future, because I'm pretty sure about 01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:19.880 this one, is that we come to a place of consciousness where we don't have to take a whole thing to kill 01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:25.000 it. We don't have to take a carrot or something, where we take the entire being, but maybe we pick 01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:30.920 oranges from an orange tree where the tree still lives, so to speak. You're saying our food sources 01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:36.360 would be like fruit and things that don't kill the whole plant when we take some food from it. 01:15:36.360 --> 01:15:42.120 Yeah, but we're not there yet. So as I see it, we came to a place, again, my truth, 01:15:42.120 --> 01:15:46.280 if people don't resonate with it, take it or leave it. But I saw that the consciousness, 01:15:46.280 --> 01:15:51.240 there was like a new kind of opening in the consciousness that happened around the 1800, 01:15:51.240 --> 01:15:58.360 where we learned not to need to kill animals. Before that, maybe we needed it to survive and 01:15:58.360 --> 01:16:00.780 and such, but we came to a place where we didn't need it anymore. 01:16:00.780 --> 01:16:06.480 And therefore it's not supposed to happen anymore the same way, but we're not in a 01:16:06.480 --> 01:16:10.300 place now where we can drop all the vegetables so we can still eat carrots and 01:16:10.300 --> 01:16:13.260 such, but it's like we take it in steps. 01:16:13.260 --> 01:16:14.160 So to speak. 01:16:14.160 --> 01:16:15.500 That's how I see it. 01:16:15.500 --> 01:16:16.600 It comes in steps. 01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:20.380 And as I see one of the last steps we can talk about the last step might be just 01:16:20.380 --> 01:16:22.500 like breathing air or just like catching sunlight. 01:16:22.500 --> 01:16:22.740 Right. 01:16:22.740 --> 01:16:27.760 But before that, by still eating, I see it like we only borrow or so to speak. 01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:29.800 We don't take like a full living being. 01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:32.360 We only take that which still lives. 01:16:32.360 --> 01:16:34.840 So we don't take a full being yet. 01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:37.880 - Yeah, don't try living on sunlight just yet. 01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:38.720 - No. 01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:42.120 - Especially in Denmark in the winter. 01:16:42.120 --> 01:16:44.920 - No, that would be a bad idea. 01:16:44.920 --> 01:16:47.060 - And of course, even some meat eating civilizations 01:16:47.060 --> 01:16:50.240 like the Native Americans were not wasteful 01:16:50.240 --> 01:16:51.080 as I understand it. 01:16:51.080 --> 01:16:53.680 And they were reverential when they had to kill a buffalo 01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:54.800 or something for food. 01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:57.440 They just killed what they needed. 01:16:57.440 --> 01:17:00.840 And then the white men built railroads across the West 01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:03.440 and they would stop the train and people just shoot Buffalo 01:17:03.440 --> 01:17:05.040 from the train and then keep on going. 01:17:05.040 --> 01:17:07.240 It was like supposed to be fun and that you know, 01:17:07.240 --> 01:17:10.440 the Native Americans naturally thought we were insane 01:17:10.440 --> 01:17:12.040 and they were right in that regard. 01:17:12.040 --> 01:17:12.880 - Exactly. 01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:14.340 And that's also like one of the things 01:17:14.340 --> 01:17:15.480 that people often say to me, 01:17:15.480 --> 01:17:17.320 well, what about the Native Americans 01:17:17.320 --> 01:17:19.140 because they kind of killed animals. 01:17:19.140 --> 01:17:21.340 And I'm saying, well, the Native Americans 01:17:21.340 --> 01:17:25.000 in my perception had a very strong bond to Mother Earth 01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:26.520 and to all the animals. 01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:31.400 They probably know how to do it. I don't know it. So i'm not doing it. That's how I feel like 01:17:31.400 --> 01:17:34.520 And i'll say they didn't do it for kicks, you know, they didn't do it for sport 01:17:34.520 --> 01:17:36.440 No, exactly 01:17:36.440 --> 01:17:38.440 It was a whole ritual and all these kind of things 01:17:38.440 --> 01:17:41.720 I'm, not saying that there's not places where that's needed anymore 01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:47.100 That's not up to me to decide but yeah, it's just like how I see that there's a consciousness 01:17:47.100 --> 01:17:54.680 That happens where we kind of stop taking from others and also at one point we will also stop taking from plants 01:17:55.160 --> 01:17:58.600 and only borrow to be in like full harmony, full balance. 01:17:58.600 --> 01:18:04.360 >> Yeah. I mean, obviously there are realms of creation where this is already true. I don't 01:18:04.360 --> 01:18:10.600 mean physical planets, but astral and celestial realms where, I'm speculating here and you can 01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:16.200 see what you think, but where people don't need to eat physical stuff or kill anything 01:18:16.200 --> 01:18:22.440 in order to survive. And maybe if you're on a gross planet like the earth, there always need 01:18:22.440 --> 01:18:27.000 to be something of that nature in order to survive just because it's such a dense realm. 01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:33.400 Yeah, exactly. I agree with you. It's the consciousness growing and evolving. I just 01:18:33.400 --> 01:18:37.880 see that as we're going that way. We're getting closer and closer to that place where we don't 01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:41.400 need to eat, but we're not there. Yeah, don't try to be a Bretonarian. 01:18:41.400 --> 01:18:49.480 What are some other things that we could talk about that I haven't thought to ask you that 01:18:49.480 --> 01:18:51.240 that you would like to talk about? 01:18:51.240 --> 01:18:53.820 Oh, another question has come in. 01:18:53.820 --> 01:18:57.840 Question three, Peter Falck from Italy. 01:18:57.840 --> 01:19:00.360 What do you believe is your first responsibility 01:19:00.360 --> 01:19:02.280 here on this planet? 01:19:02.280 --> 01:19:03.800 - That's a great question. 01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:06.640 I believe what I came to at least until now 01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:11.640 is that the cosmic consciousness that I have opened up to 01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:16.040 is something that needs to be conceptualized 01:19:16.040 --> 01:19:18.760 in the same way as you see other people 01:19:18.760 --> 01:19:21.760 with an opening where they create a concept 01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:23.880 like you see with Rudolf Steiner 01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:25.800 or you see with someone else. 01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:27.720 It comes to me that my opening needs 01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:30.320 to be conceptualized for the future. 01:19:30.320 --> 01:19:32.040 - Meaning you have to build a structure 01:19:32.040 --> 01:19:33.080 of knowledge about it? 01:19:33.080 --> 01:19:34.640 You have to be able to explain it, 01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:36.960 writing a book or something like that? 01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:39.800 - My opening came in a way that I didn't know 01:19:39.800 --> 01:19:42.520 what kind of words to use for all these kind of things. 01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:45.320 I needed to study words to understand 01:19:45.320 --> 01:19:47.120 what it is that I'm seeing and feeling 01:19:47.120 --> 01:19:53.840 knowing out there to understand what kind of words can somehow describe it from a human to a human 01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:59.520 so the mind can understand it. And I have fought this for a very long time because I try to stay 01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:05.360 very humble in a way of why should I be someone that created this but I came very very recently 01:20:05.360 --> 01:20:12.000 to knowing that the more I try to judge my path of not realizing that there is something that 01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:16.340 that needs to come out of this, then I'm just putting myself in suffering. 01:20:16.340 --> 01:20:17.900 Because it's not about me. 01:20:17.900 --> 01:20:20.780 I have the opening to help people if I'm back. 01:20:20.780 --> 01:20:23.300 That's my biggest responsibility in this lifetime. 01:20:23.300 --> 01:20:25.860 Okay, so let me just elaborate on what you just said. 01:20:25.860 --> 01:20:31.560 So you want to codify the knowledge or write it down or record it in some way that can be 01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:37.460 conveyed to other people and thereby to enable them to benefit from it. 01:20:37.460 --> 01:20:41.340 And I presume that even like Rudolph, that's what I basically do with the telepathy. 01:20:41.340 --> 01:20:44.980 I have the Akasha where the knowledge come, but through the telepathy I... 01:20:44.980 --> 01:20:46.700 Because we have a lot of those. 01:20:46.700 --> 01:20:51.560 It'll be something that they can take into their lives and maybe practice in some way 01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:57.260 that will bring about a transformation on a deeper level than mere intellectual understanding 01:20:57.260 --> 01:20:58.260 could do. 01:20:58.260 --> 01:20:59.260 Yeah, exactly. 01:20:59.260 --> 01:21:04.220 It's somehow a bridge between the knowledge and experiencing it or embodying it, because 01:21:04.220 --> 01:21:06.220 that's what I basically do with the telepathy. 01:21:06.220 --> 01:21:10.580 I have the Akasha where the knowledge come, but through the telepathy I experience it and 01:21:10.580 --> 01:21:14.740 I get to transform through that experience. 01:21:14.740 --> 01:21:17.060 Exactly it's very good elaborated. 01:21:17.060 --> 01:21:23.180 It's bringing the things together and somehow make that like a legacy. 01:21:23.180 --> 01:21:28.260 I don't know exactly how to do it yet because it might require some help. 01:21:28.260 --> 01:21:31.460 I have some students who is already working on it. 01:21:31.460 --> 01:21:35.700 Because of course it's like what we talk about here is only a little surface of what it is 01:21:35.700 --> 01:21:37.660 that it actually possesses. 01:21:37.660 --> 01:21:40.380 it contains, I don't know what to call it. 01:21:40.380 --> 01:21:45.180 Okay, so this knowledge, let's say, if you were to, let's say, write a book or a series 01:21:45.180 --> 01:21:50.740 of books or something, would there be a lot in those books that isn't already in other 01:21:50.740 --> 01:21:54.340 books that have been written throughout the ages? 01:21:54.340 --> 01:22:00.700 No, because somehow everything, they speak about the same, just different words, right? 01:22:00.700 --> 01:22:02.140 Nothing new under the sun. 01:22:02.140 --> 01:22:03.860 Nothing new under the sun, and it will be the same here. 01:22:03.860 --> 01:22:08.620 I just need to find a new concept for, you know, the truth that I found. 01:22:08.620 --> 01:22:13.460 And I keep like diving deeper into like that experience that I have felt of that 01:22:13.460 --> 01:22:16.580 divine presence, like the same as the saints and the prophet. 01:22:16.580 --> 01:22:17.840 I'm not saying I'm a saint and prophet. 01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:21.620 I don't mean it like that, but it's like that kind of opening I have. 01:22:21.620 --> 01:22:25.140 I somehow need to conceptualize that for the mind to understand. 01:22:25.140 --> 01:22:29.800 But it's not something that is special on the first time on earth or something. 01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:31.840 It's like the same as you can find in many other books. 01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:37.400 It's just maybe different wording and a different kind of setup with maybe experiences and practices 01:22:37.400 --> 01:22:39.360 and knowledge and such. 01:22:39.360 --> 01:22:40.360 I think that's really good. 01:22:40.360 --> 01:22:45.680 I don't think that any spiritual teacher who ever walked the earth invented anything new. 01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:49.680 And in fact, even before there were human beings on the earth, there were probably spiritual 01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:53.180 teachers throughout the universe who were saying the same thing. 01:22:53.180 --> 01:22:58.220 But there's a reason why people keep coming and having these insights, because it needs 01:22:58.220 --> 01:23:00.360 only a new seed can yield a new crop. 01:23:00.360 --> 01:23:06.360 needs a fresh infusion over and over and over again in every generation. I'm just putting 01:23:06.360 --> 01:23:11.640 what you just said into my own words to make sure that I'm on the same page. You just feel 01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:19.720 this calling to get it in writing and to systematize it perhaps so that as many people as possible 01:23:19.720 --> 01:23:24.080 can benefit from it. Yes, that's the word. That was the word I was looking for. So thank 01:23:24.080 --> 01:23:28.040 you for finding that I couldn't I couldn't find that one. That's exactly how I feel. And 01:23:28.040 --> 01:23:32.560 And I feel like right now, I sensed two years ago that I will start to step more away from 01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:35.000 being a healer and more being the teacher. 01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:39.160 And it just came to me and I said, okay, I didn't know why actually, because I felt like 01:23:39.160 --> 01:23:44.220 the healing was trying, it was about to go good and there was flow and I'm like, okay, 01:23:44.220 --> 01:23:45.720 so now I have to go down. 01:23:45.720 --> 01:23:50.520 I'm just like, I'm about to grow, but okay, it's start to go down again. 01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:53.460 After I got that, the flow was not the same anymore. 01:23:53.460 --> 01:23:56.760 But at the same time, I started to have the students and all these kinds of things. 01:23:56.760 --> 01:24:00.440 And it opened to me that it's because it's this path I have to go. 01:24:00.440 --> 01:24:03.440 I have to systemize something that people can follow. 01:24:03.440 --> 01:24:09.480 And one of the visions that I have is to have this book or this series of books or something 01:24:09.480 --> 01:24:14.040 that can help people, but also have this center or maybe a few centers in the world where 01:24:14.040 --> 01:24:21.560 people come and they can retreat and they can go into learning more about this, like 01:24:21.560 --> 01:24:22.800 a little community somehow. 01:24:22.800 --> 01:24:24.560 Yeah, that's nice. 01:24:24.560 --> 01:24:25.840 And you can do all that stuff. 01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:29.960 You have plenty of time, you're only 29. 01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:33.120 You're about 45 years younger than me or something like that. 01:24:33.120 --> 01:24:35.400 So you have plenty of time to do all this stuff. 01:24:35.400 --> 01:24:40.200 Of course you never know, we all might die tomorrow and that would be okay too in the 01:24:40.200 --> 01:24:41.960 cosmic scheme of things. 01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:46.280 Yeah, I'm inspired by what you're saying and what you're doing and I won't be around to 01:24:46.280 --> 01:24:49.840 see all of it probably, but I think you're going to make a nice contribution to the world. 01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:50.840 You already are. 01:24:50.840 --> 01:24:56.080 The thing about being a healer versus what you're now feeling called to do is you can 01:24:56.080 --> 01:24:57.540 only heal so many people. 01:24:57.540 --> 01:25:01.160 Not that they don't need healing, but it's kind of limited. 01:25:01.160 --> 01:25:06.780 If you can provide something that can reach a much larger number of people, then they 01:25:06.780 --> 01:25:09.040 can heal themselves with that. 01:25:09.040 --> 01:25:10.040 Exactly. 01:25:10.040 --> 01:25:13.680 The big change for me, because I've known this for a long time, but I've kind of battled 01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:17.320 because I was afraid if it was like a spiritual ego or something. 01:25:17.320 --> 01:25:23.040 I walked around in India last time when I was in India here in the beginning of this year. 01:25:23.040 --> 01:25:27.160 I was walking and suddenly there was this sadhu, this holy man that just stopped me and said, 01:25:27.160 --> 01:25:29.220 "You're special, come here and sit with me." 01:25:29.220 --> 01:25:30.220 And then he... 01:25:30.220 --> 01:25:32.600 Give me a few rupees and I'll tell you how special you are. 01:25:32.600 --> 01:25:37.080 Well, he didn't ask for rupees, but he just sat and he came and he said, "You have to 01:25:37.080 --> 01:25:41.120 come back every day, every night because I need to tell you stuff." 01:25:41.120 --> 01:25:45.240 Bottom line, the first thing he said to me was, "It's a crime the way that you use your 01:25:45.240 --> 01:25:46.240 abilities. 01:25:46.240 --> 01:25:50.800 crime, it's actually a crime the way that you don't take responsibility upon the opening you have. 01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:55.840 I didn't say anything to him, he just said right now you're helping one-to-one person 01:25:55.840 --> 01:26:00.640 and then he said he used himself an example and said when he began he went out to the jungle and 01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:06.080 he meditated for two years and then afterwards people built a temple at that place in the jungle. 01:26:06.080 --> 01:26:10.960 He used that symbol for me to understand that there is a legacy that has to happen, 01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:16.560 It's not one-to-one sessions, right? When someone stopped me and just said that, I felt like, 01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:21.280 "Okay, maybe it's time that I take it a little bit serious." That's interesting. And you never want 01:26:21.280 --> 01:26:26.720 to lose the one-to-one feeling too, because, I don't know, it's a kind of a balancing act between 01:26:26.720 --> 01:26:34.320 broad reach and never losing the personal feeling for individuals. I've seen teachers who have a 01:26:34.320 --> 01:26:40.440 a huge following who have come to believe that individuals are dispensable, that ends justify 01:26:40.440 --> 01:26:45.560 the means and it doesn't matter if this person is discarded or this person is used for their 01:26:45.560 --> 01:26:51.720 money or for whatever. There just has to be that intimate personal love and compassion 01:26:51.720 --> 01:26:56.400 as if the person were your partner, even though you might have thousands of people that you're 01:26:56.400 --> 01:26:57.400 with. 01:26:57.400 --> 01:27:01.800 I agree. And it's actually one of the reasons why when I feel, I feel for example that right 01:27:01.800 --> 01:27:06.160 now I have to step way more into having students. Having students that can take 01:27:06.160 --> 01:27:11.520 over the legacy and God do the healing and such but the thing is that I kind of 01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:16.600 attach myself to my students because I get so involved in their life you know I 01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:22.280 care about them so if they drop me I actually get hurt I'm not neutral in it 01:27:22.280 --> 01:27:25.720 I'm not like okay then just a new one it's not how it is because there's like 01:27:25.720 --> 01:27:29.520 an energetically exchange with my students which means I feel them and 01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:34.440 And when that happens, of course, I also feel sad if they have to leave for something. 01:27:34.440 --> 01:27:40.200 It will be easier in some ways to only focus on one-to-one sessions, but I'm still going 01:27:40.200 --> 01:27:41.520 to have one-to-one sessions. 01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:42.680 People can still reach out to me. 01:27:42.680 --> 01:27:47.400 I'm still going to do it, but my focus just apparently has to go the other way. 01:27:47.400 --> 01:27:48.880 That's something I have to prepare for. 01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:51.400 Yeah, and it'll take a while. 01:27:51.400 --> 01:27:53.960 We'll see what the extent of your range of influence is. 01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:57.020 I mean, there's different people have different ranges. 01:27:57.020 --> 01:28:01.820 And sometimes a real small gathering can actually be more impactful than a huge thing. 01:28:01.820 --> 01:28:06.540 I mean, Ramana Maharshi just sat there on his couch with a few people staring at him and 01:28:06.540 --> 01:28:12.220 it's a relatively small setup, but the impact he had is still rippling throughout the world. 01:28:12.220 --> 01:28:13.220 Exactly. 01:28:13.220 --> 01:28:18.140 And there are a couple of part of me that would love that because I'm not sure how it 01:28:18.140 --> 01:28:22.340 will turn out for me if it would be like a huge, huge gathering, you know, with too many 01:28:22.340 --> 01:28:25.780 people because I like to feel the pulse with people also. 01:28:25.780 --> 01:28:30.300 how I work with it. I would also love to still have like a private life where I can grow 01:28:30.300 --> 01:28:35.820 with like being a brotherhood and such. I'm not necessarily attached to it has to be something 01:28:35.820 --> 01:28:36.820 bigger at all. 01:28:36.820 --> 01:28:41.380 Right. Another thing that happens is that when it does become big, then all of a sudden 01:28:41.380 --> 01:28:48.260 you have all these administrative hassles and monetary considerations, and beautiful 01:28:48.260 --> 01:28:54.100 women coming at you, you kind of have a target on your chest. And a lot of spiritual teachers 01:28:54.100 --> 01:28:58.580 who've had big organizations have fallen prey to that. They've gotten caught up in the money 01:28:58.580 --> 01:29:04.020 and the women and all that stuff, even if they were monks who came out of India, especially 01:29:04.020 --> 01:29:10.340 if they're monks who came out of India. So it's kind of like the bigger it gets, the 01:29:10.340 --> 01:29:15.980 more challenging it becomes. I know Adyashanti, for instance, he recently retired from teaching 01:29:15.980 --> 01:29:20.620 and somehow or other, it really took a toll on him. I don't think it was entirely a health 01:29:20.620 --> 01:29:26.380 thing. He was experiencing a lot of pain and the pain was very traumatic and he ended up retiring 01:29:26.380 --> 01:29:31.740 from it. You know there's always going to be temptations. Yeah. And you just always have to 01:29:31.740 --> 01:29:35.420 be careful like you were saying in the very beginning of this conversation. You always have 01:29:35.420 --> 01:29:41.420 to be self-scrutinizing and making sure that you're being true to yourself and true to the truth and 01:29:41.420 --> 01:29:47.020 things like that. I actually feel like I've already been tested or like being trained towards this 01:29:47.020 --> 01:29:53.980 because I have experience going out in the world and travel to do my workshops and feel like a huge 01:29:53.980 --> 01:29:58.300 gathering already happened and you know the women they've become very interested in you and you can 01:29:58.300 --> 01:30:03.500 see there's a lot of money in it so I've already learned from that moment not in the way of like 01:30:03.500 --> 01:30:09.020 thousands and thousands right but still enough to see okay there is something here understand 01:30:09.020 --> 01:30:14.460 the difference between following the path and just let these things come and go not come and go the 01:30:14.460 --> 01:30:18.780 way of like, but it just happens. It's not something with you and you should not go into 01:30:18.780 --> 01:30:22.780 it. It just happens. So I feel like I've already been trained some ways to this. 01:30:22.780 --> 01:30:26.880 And you know, it's funny because you might have actually been a spiritual teacher in 01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:32.700 past lives. You might remember some such lives. Do you remember such life? And how did it 01:30:32.700 --> 01:30:38.940 go? Did you fall in some instances or get persecuted or all that stuff? 01:30:38.940 --> 01:30:44.700 Yeah, the short version is that the first thing I saw was the past 700 years where I've basically 01:30:44.700 --> 01:30:46.500 just been hunted down and executed. 01:30:46.500 --> 01:30:47.900 Yeah, there you go. 01:30:47.900 --> 01:30:50.340 And so that was pretty overwhelming to see. 01:30:50.340 --> 01:30:56.620 But I also saw the one where I actually fall in myself and left my wife and two kids to 01:30:56.620 --> 01:30:59.120 seek fame of spirituality. 01:30:59.120 --> 01:31:03.340 And that's the one that taught me today because since I remember that one, I got the taste 01:31:03.340 --> 01:31:08.460 of how it would feel to follow the fame or follow all these kinds of things. 01:31:08.460 --> 01:31:13.260 you know, it doesn't taste good for me. It doesn't taste good for me. I remember how it was in that 01:31:13.260 --> 01:31:18.220 lifetime. I don't want that. Well, maybe all that stuff made a strong enough impression that you 01:31:18.220 --> 01:31:24.060 won't be tempted anymore. That's how it feels. That's how it feels at least, yes. Okay, so, 01:31:24.060 --> 01:31:30.220 you know, we're just about up with our time, but I'd be happy to talk a few more minutes if there's 01:31:30.220 --> 01:31:36.140 something you want to say. I think I want to share where I am right now in my life is 01:31:36.140 --> 01:31:42.060 I'm opening up to take more students in to spend more time on that because I also feel like if I can contribute with 01:31:42.060 --> 01:31:47.740 Helping people with this opening up can be more people can be helped out there. How are you going to do that? 01:31:47.740 --> 01:31:53.020 They have to come to denmark. You're going to set up zoom calls or what? Yeah, they don't have to come to denmark 01:31:53.020 --> 01:31:57.340 No, it's basically that we we figure out where they are in their life and how often we have to talk 01:31:57.340 --> 01:31:59.980 There's teachings monthly. There is uh 01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:06.360 guidance. We text and we are in communication every week and often doing like what's happening. 01:32:06.360 --> 01:32:08.360 With a bunch of individual students. 01:32:08.360 --> 01:32:12.760 Yes, it's a big work, but it's what I've been called to do, so that's what I'm going to do. 01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:18.360 No questions asked. So I'm opening up to that. And at the same time, I'm also in a place right now 01:32:18.360 --> 01:32:24.200 where while I'm doing that, before I systemize all this, which will be pretty big work, I'm very open 01:32:24.200 --> 01:32:29.000 to come out in, you know, in the world and do workshops to help people enlighten these things 01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:34.120 that I'm able to help with at least. So somebody listening to this, let's say they live in, 01:32:34.120 --> 01:32:40.200 I won't say Pittsburgh because you've already done that, you know, Sedona or Boulder or any place, 01:32:40.200 --> 01:32:46.200 London or Italy or whatever, they could get in touch with you and they could maybe set something 01:32:46.200 --> 01:32:52.440 up and you would go there and do your thing. And I will do workshops and I will do healings 01:32:52.440 --> 01:32:57.400 for sure. So because I'm in a place right now where I'm free and I'm capable of doing these things 01:32:57.400 --> 01:33:01.960 And I just want to use that in a way of being more in service everywhere. 01:33:01.960 --> 01:33:07.160 Where it's needed, I am open to talk with people about it if they feel a call for it. 01:33:07.160 --> 01:33:12.280 So I'll be linking to your website. You do have a website now, don't you? 01:33:12.280 --> 01:33:16.920 No, I don't. I changed it. And I'm not sure if I should have a new one yet, 01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:17.480 because it's like... 01:33:17.480 --> 01:33:21.720 You have to have a way of getting in touch with you. I could link to your Facebook page. 01:33:21.720 --> 01:33:25.400 I could put your email address on your BatGap page if you want. 01:33:25.400 --> 01:33:34.040 Yeah, the email address or otherwise right now I have just like I focused on my Instagram because there's too many places where people contact me and honestly 01:33:34.040 --> 01:33:39.640 Some of it technologies were very weird with me. There's many emails that doesn't go through and when I had an email 01:33:39.640 --> 01:33:44.280 There's many problems. So i'm trying to not have too many platforms. Yeah, okay 01:33:44.280 --> 01:33:47.560 So we'll talk about that afterwards and i'll link to you. However you want 01:33:47.560 --> 01:33:51.240 You know in 10 years from now, it might be a completely different thing 01:33:51.320 --> 01:33:55.480 So if I'm still around, which I hope to be, I'll change it on your Batgap page. 01:33:55.480 --> 01:33:57.480 And maybe we'll be doing another interview by then. 01:33:57.480 --> 01:33:59.800 Yeah, we can talk about it, but I will. 01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:02.360 Be interviewing Sri Sri Lucas G. 01:34:02.360 --> 01:34:03.580 Yeah. 01:34:03.580 --> 01:34:06.440 It'll be something. 01:34:06.440 --> 01:34:06.940 Yeah. 01:34:06.940 --> 01:34:10.440 I can easily create like a web page where people can reach me. 01:34:10.440 --> 01:34:10.940 Yes. 01:34:10.940 --> 01:34:12.120 All right. 01:34:12.120 --> 01:34:16.920 So people who are listening to this can just look at your page on Batgap and whatever means 01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:20.680 we determine for them to contact you, they will find there. 01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:21.180 Yes. 01:34:21.180 --> 01:34:26.280 Alrighty, well thanks Lucas. I've really enjoyed this. I've enjoyed getting to know you. I feel 01:34:26.280 --> 01:34:31.480 like I said in the beginning, I already know you in a weird way. I have a feeling of affinity with 01:34:31.480 --> 01:34:39.400 you, as I'm sure a lot of people do. We'll be in touch and look forward to seeing what you do with 01:34:39.400 --> 01:34:39.900 your gift. 01:34:39.900 --> 01:34:45.400 Thank you, Rick. It's been an honor for me also and a pleasure to be here with you because I 01:34:45.400 --> 01:34:50.840 really resonate with your perception of life and spirituality and I believe it's very important 01:34:50.840 --> 01:34:55.880 to meet those people so we can have this beautiful flow together and you know contribute to the 01:34:55.880 --> 01:35:02.200 healing of everyone. It's been grateful for me too and I'm happy to be here and yeah thank you 01:35:02.200 --> 01:35:16.040 for it. Thank you for the opportunity. Oh, you're most welcome. It's an opportunity for me also.