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This is the Art Beauty

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podcast, where we tell the real truth
about the fake shit.

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Hi, everybody. I'm Amber.

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And today
my fabulous co-host is Rose-Marie Swift.

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She is the founder and CEO of RMS Beauty.

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And I see she's got a little friend there.

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Do we want to get this?

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Is this person really?

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Okay, we've got the little pup there
who might make an appearance later.

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So founder and CEO of Arms Beauty,
we are going to be talking

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all about her incredible background
with the incredible products.

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But before we get into that.

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Welcome to the show, Rose-Marie.

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Oh, thank you very for
Thank you very much for having me.

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This is fantastic.

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As for that little that little hairy thing
you saw, that is Ruby Moon.

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And she whenever
I do anything on the computer,

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she has to sit right behind me
the whole time.

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So to. Support.

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This poor
puppet, I'm sure she has a lot to say.

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Maybe we'll be hearing from her
about your line later.

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Exactly.

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You know, just to give everybody
a little bit of background here,

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because people have been listening
for a long time.

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No, this is not a sponsored podcast.

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I bring on brands that I love, that
I think that you at home

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are going to love.

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And I learned about RMS beauty from a lip
light launch.

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We're going to be talking
about this product in a little bit.

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One of the best parts about my job
is that I get to meet incredible founders

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like you.

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I get to go to these exciting
new launches, and I was blown away

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by the live lights.

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We were going
to be talking all about that.

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But then I also really fell in love

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with you, Rose-Marie, because I feel like
you have such a wonderful background.

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And I'm wondering if you could share

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a little bit about your history
before we talk about products.

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Okay. How do I start?

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Okay.

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Once upon a time,

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I've been well, obviously, I've been in
the in the industry for a super long time.

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I'm originally from Canada and I started
doing makeup there back in the day.

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And, you know, it just
it was one of those things

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I never really wanted
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It just kind of fell into my hands
and I just kept getting jobs

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and I was kind of, you know, always
getting on an airplane, going somewhere.

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And I would you know, I started up
Vancouver, then went to Toronto,

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then I went to Europe,
then I went down to Miami, was catalog

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queen for a while,
which was actually a lot of fun.

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And then I ended up in New York.

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So I've been in New York, I guess
you could say, for a little over 30 years.

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Oh, so where in New York
are you On the Upper East Side?

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Well, I am in I have my apartment
still on East Wall Street.

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Nice. Okay. I love that.

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So you're in the Lower East Side,
just down the street.

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And in true New York fashion,
I don't know if you can hear this.

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Of course,
the alarms are blaring in the back.

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Sorry about that.

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You know, it's so interesting.

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I love when I talk to people,

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you know, who have been in the business
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so many of the makeup artists,
so much of the makeup artistry,

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you know, prior to Photoshop
was was really key, right?

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Because people on set,

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you didn't have all of that fabulous
retouching that now we do.

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I mean, you as a makeup
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that your subjects
were really looking amazing, right?

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That this is I'm really glad
you brought this up.

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This is the first time
somebody actually brought this up.

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Kate When I started, it was actual film.

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You're you you didn't know what
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You know, if the photographer messed it
up, it was backed up.

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You know what I mean?

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And I remember that when they started,
because I did a lot of, of,

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of shooting in on location.

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So I was not really a makeup artist
for on the studio, but location.

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I was all over that.

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you know, I got into the beautiful skin
and everything belongs very short.

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I remember when it started going into
digital, you know, I was in the studio.

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I remember the first time,
and they've got the model up there

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in the monitor
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I remember going, Oh my God, in my room,
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because you could literally see
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floating on top of their skin
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Everything.

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In the movie little makeup mistake
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And I like I felt like I had to,
you know, learn all over again.

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And, you know, obviously,
I was a good makeup artist.

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I wouldn't have been where I was.

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But, you know, it was a shocker.

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It was a shocker. Yeah.

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And then when everything went to HD,

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I feel like that was another
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I come from a film family,
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and I still remember
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that you would just take
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one, that the guy didn't
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or open it and sometimes you got back
a roll of just blank photos.

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So I can only imagine when you've got
thousands and thousands of dollars.

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And my dad tells me,
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that it was just you would shoot a day
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as the DP that,
like every picture came out so scary.

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So, so so I you know, I know

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it's interesting when we talk about
how makeup has changed, though, right?

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The products have had to change.

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What have you sort of seen
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you know, from back in the day to now?

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And how do you sort of adjusted to that?

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Well, I find that, you know,
when I looked at that monitor

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and saw how thick everything was
and how cakey and dry it looked,

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it really started me thinking is like,
God, what am I putting on these people?

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And, you know, nowadays it has to be
sheer, it has to be slightly luminous.

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The makes the skin look beautiful
and really young and youthful and radiant.

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You know, that's that's my thing.

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I did Victoria's Secret for years,
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to do really beautiful makeup
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these girls are very scantily clad,

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you know, so to speak,
their bare naked almost, you know.

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And so you can't have a face
full of all this really heavy

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duty makeup
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So, you know, you really learn to,
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that don't have a lot

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on, you want the skin on their body
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That beautiful,
you know, a little bit of hobo oil.

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I used to put on.

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You want that that that beautiful youthful

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skin you don't want to have.

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there's a whole different texture
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So they had to change a lot of stuff.

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You know, things became more Mike Brown
eyes, you know, pigments became more Mike

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Brown eyes and even and you know, colors
obviously were, you know, weren't as is.

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They're more beautiful, more natural
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Mostly in my world, I'm,
you know, I'm speaking from my world.

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You know, that's that's what I do.

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So, you know, it was really an interesting
change to start

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formulating things that were made with,
you know, clean ingredients, you know,

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like Cobra oil, you know, coconut oil,
all those kind of things that I use.

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And it really makes a difference in the

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in the foundations
and the lipsticks, everything.

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So how do you go now from you know,

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you're a very in-demand makeup artist.

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What was it that made
you decide, I want to create my own line?

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You know, it had nothing to do
with wanting to create my own line.

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It was guilt.

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I felt bad putting on all those chemicals,

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and I'm not saying, guys,
please don't think I'm saying that.

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Oh my God, you're going to burn in
hell if you put this.

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You know that makeup on you.

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What I am saying is
there are chemicals in there

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that are little undies that are actually
some of them are very undesirable,

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mostly depending where you purchase
your your your products and

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and then what country,
what origin of the country it's from.

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But I felt guilty putting in all these
beautiful 15, 16, 17 year old girls

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and I want to put something on
their skin was preventative

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not not just a quick fix
because you know I used to see

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when I when I started with those girls,
you know, I would see them makeup, they'd

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walk in their skin, would look beautiful,
and then I would see their makeup.

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After a few hours, I go,
Why do they look dry?

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Why does their skin
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And that's what triggered me.

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You know, first,

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the guilt of what was in those
those those traditional cosmetics, plus,

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you know, what that's going to do for them
as young girls.

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And I just went off on my own thing.

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You know, I just you know,
I just started doing my own thing.

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I was a rough Buddhist for a while,
so I got a lot of my concept

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for the clean ingredients
from the rough food industry.

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Sure.

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You know, okay, so so your lines,
you have this clean line,

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you know,
and I always like to sort of ask like,

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how do you decide, guide
what products are going to work

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and how have you taken your experience

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as a professional makeup artist for things
that worked in a professional capacity

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and sort of translated that
to products that work for the consumer?

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interestingly, when I started,
my formulas were very, very basic.

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You know, coconut oil, herbal oil,
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rosemary CO2 in there is a preservative
just very, very simple and clean.

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And then as you know, the years went by

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and things started opening up
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You know, a lot of new innovations
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It started really slowly,
but now it's there.

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So now I'm doing things that, you know,

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I would I've got ingredients in there
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how do I say just more advanced
rather than my my hippie formula

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that I had at the beginning, which is
still hanging in there, Tried and true.

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But, you know, I wanted to expand on it.

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And so I want to just do products
where people say, Hey, this is user

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friendly, this is this is fashion forward,

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this is preventative, this is moisturizing
and nourishing for the skin.

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It's good for your body.

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All those kind of of of, you know,
concepts I'd really had to consider.

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Now I like to keep it.

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I keep it real with everybody.

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So I've only had a limited,
limited experience with your line.

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The thing that I fell in love with
was the lip lace.

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It was actually the first product
that I tried from your line.

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And you know, for people I've been
listening for ever, I hate lipstick.

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I hate wearing lipstick.

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I'm a lip biter. It's disgusting.
I know it.

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But but I feel like I've tried every lip

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gloss and lip tint under the sun.

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And I don't know if you can see here
how much I've used this already.

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And we just had that.

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When did these launch? Recently.

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Yeah, just like.

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Yeah, about a month ago,
I think. About a month ago.

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So you can see
I've already had to bend it down

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because this is my every day,
every time I have to be on camera,

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I'm wearing the lip lights right now.

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This is in the the bare shade.

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It is game changing.

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So this is it's
just a little bit of pigment

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that like I can walk

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to the grocery store in this
and know that my lips are hydrated

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and have just a little bit of sheer
pigment

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or I can be doing the podcast right
now, you know, or full glam

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for a new beauty show.

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I feel like this has been a game changer.

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Also. It's so fun.

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The packaging feels like kind of
like what you would get from like,

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you know, a professional makeup
artist store, right?

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Like, I love the little things.

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You have to do. Yeah.

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Why did you create this?

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Well, well, for one thing, the tubes are
because I wanted it recyclable.

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Right?
Those are okay, So they're recyclable.

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So we're trying to, you know, help up the,
you know, the world here.

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And but what's interesting about that is
I've always had really bad chapped lips.

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It didn't matter what I put on, It
didn't matter how great the lip gloss

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was or the lip balm or, you know,

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whatever product I was putting on my lips,
my lips were permanently chapped.

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That's just the way I am.

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And and I
also if you look at my portfolio,

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I don't have a lot of shots
with lip gloss.

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And in fact,
I think I have hardly any, if any at all.

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I've never been really a lip gloss girl
because I thought lip

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gloss was just so light shiny
that it almost didn't

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it almost to me,
it looks a little, little cheap.

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Yeah, well. And juvenile. Yeah.

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Yeah. And young.

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Shiny, too shiny. Yeah, yeah.

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Shiny and more for young girls, you know,
You see what my dad really having

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a mouth to lip gloss,
you know what I mean?

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So I wanted to do something
that, you know, had some treatment

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in it, obviously,
so that your lips wouldn't be chapped.

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And that had justice, elegance and
sophistication in the shine in the gloss.

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So that wasn't over the top.

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And, you know,
we put a little bit of a plumper in there.

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It's a stingless plumper.

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So you're

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not going to have that young girl thing
where it actually stings your lips.

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We thought, okay, but for the young girls,
we want to go into the older ladies

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little bit.

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You know,
a little bit more refined territory.

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So it's it's a little bit of a plumper
that does not sting.

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I love that.
I had no idea. And you know what?

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I'm glad you're talking about this
because, you know, you mentioned

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before that you worked with the Victoria's
Secret models

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who are well, you know, actually
now, you know, now they have diverse ages.

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But, you know, let's see,
they're they're younger, right?

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They're not really doing this
in their forties, fifties plus and makeup

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when we get into our forties fifties

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plus is it's different
than our twenties and thirties.

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So do you think you're like
your line is really kind of geared for

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for maybe a more mature woman as well.

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Well, actually I like to say it's great
for mature women because of the

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nourishing properties
and the moisturizing properties, hydration

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properties, but it's also really good
for the younger girls because I keep it

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modern and fashion forward,
but it's also because it's preventative.

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Yeah.

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You know,

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they're not going to there's no you know,
there's not ingredients in there.

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They're going to dry out their,

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you know, underneath their eyes or give
them, you know, really dried up eyelids.

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I always call it chicken skin eyelids
by the time they're 35.

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So I would say if you have oily lib,
embrace that oily layer.

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I'm telling you guys, you don't want to
have a dried up lid when you're older.

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Even at my age, I'm glad I don't have
dried up chicken skin eyelids.

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Isn't it so funny though?

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I find that, you know, when we were
or at least when I was younger, like

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I wanted everything to be matte, right?

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You don't want the shine because your skin
is naturally gorgeous and luminous.

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And then as you start to get older,
you're like, How do I look, Louis?

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How do I look?

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Dewy How do I get that sort of luminosity
back?

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You know, it's kind of like
we always want what we don't have, right?

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Oh, yeah, so true.

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But, you know, back in the days
with makeup,

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you know, basically make
it was put on like a matte.

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It'd be very pale.

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You know, obviously the way I wear
my makeup is is very reminiscent

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of the olden days.

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And I've kind of just this
is just my style and what I do the best.

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But, you know, you slowly start seeing
everybody was drinking green juices,

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everybody was being very healthy
and doing exercises.

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And then it worked out.

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It started working out not just the body,
but we're also going to do

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things for our faces.

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So that's when, you know,
the healthy food came in

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and so it returned a whole generation of,
you know, fashion thinkers

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or makeup thinkers into
to redoing the idea of a matte foundation.

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And they want a little bit of that glow.

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It shows health.

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It shows that, you know,
your skin is doing what it's doing.

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It's radiant.

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And I think we're still there
at that place.

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I still don't see so much being done

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on the foundation department,
except if you look at Instagram.

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But that's a whole different
creative vehicle.

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You know, that's not what you realize.

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Instagram is is so wild.

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I feel like
sometimes there are great things.

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Then I'm watching all these young girls
like,

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you know, dripping the makeup on
and I'm like, at eight.

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I mean, I guess it's cool.

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It's it's like an art form for them.

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And I remember when I was younger,
I would put on really weird makeup.

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You know, I and I like, I put on a

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a stripe of makeup
that was dark going here

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and then a medium color in the middle
and then a bright color on the outside.

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It looked ridiculous.
But at the time I thought it was fabulous.

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But some of these kids I have to say,
are very, very good at doing makeup.

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Insanely good.

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Yeah, Insanely good. Exactly.

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That's a better word for it, for sure.

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Most of the real creative stuff,
I just like, whoa, I could never do that.

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I also don't have the patience for it,

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but I've noticed a lot of them now
are embracing the Cleaner brand.

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You know, they're asking for my products.

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They're doing,
you know, a Instagram post using our Ms.

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Beauty.

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And the skin is becoming more beautiful
because I always when I when I do a

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training, I always tell people, guys,
you want your skin to look beautiful.

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Skin is sensual, it's sexual.

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If you have it all covered
up, it's not so attractive.

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Like you can do big, huge brows
and you can do big lips and control

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you want do all that stuff.

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Lashes for days,
but keep your skin looking beautiful.

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Yeah, that is what sexy and sensual.

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Yeah. You know, it's so funny.

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I had a makeup artist I worked with once,
and she was like, You know,

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I always want my clients to go out
and have people say, You look beautiful.

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Not your makeup looks beautiful. Exactly.

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A little bit of a change, right?

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But, you know, we want to make sure
that we're embracing our own inner beauty.

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And I do love that
from what I've learned with your products.

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So let's talk about some of the sort
of the stars that you think of the line.

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And then I know
we've got some exciting new launches

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that just launched
that I want to talk about, too.

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So what would you say?

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Like, you know, when like,
you know, in terms of the arm speed,

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if somebody was new to the brand,
if they were trying out, you know,

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are there any hero products
that you kind of recommend.

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You know, Yes, I'm going to say

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I have probably two products
that put me on the map.

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One was my living Lumina Iser. Okay.

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And this is this is basically
my cult hero, so to speak.

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It definitely put me on the map.

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And I did this back in the days
of doing Victoria's Secret

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where, you know, I wanted to give a glow
on their on their body or on their faces

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when I just had
put a little bit of coconut oil or I'm not

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so I'm not coca at all.

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I use hobo oil because of the yellow seed.

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And it's got that.

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Warmth and I put a highlighter on
and it will always look to disco.

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It was always too
sparkly or too over the top.

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So I created this luminaries,
and I'm going to show

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you really quickly on myself
so you guys get the gist of this

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and I just pop it on and what it does,
it just adds that ultimate glow.

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I don't know if you guys can see it like,
Yeah.

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Oh, it's beautiful.

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In that, you know, is
what makes you look beautiful.

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And it's funny because I did go on QVC
when I first launched

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this back in like 2010,
I think I launched the the Luminosa.

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I can't remember now.

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I remember going on the show
and everybody goes,

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who wants to wear a glow
on their cheekbones?

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And here we are.

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Everybody has aluminum, eyes are now
everybody wants that glow to their skin

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because it makes you look younger.
It makes you look youthful.

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When you're old man.

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Powder down, you look old
and another book that has been called

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the Meryl Streep of of Concealer
is my on cover up.

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Now, originally when I did this,

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I launched with

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the luminaries are these
I think a few colored

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lip balm
and a few colored of lip, the cheeks

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and some eye polishes,
but this one got a lot of attention

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because you could use it
very easily as a little concealer.

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You can also use it
as a tinted moisturizer.

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If you add it with a bit of oil,

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you can also use it for a full face
foundation by just putting it on.

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And then what you do
is you add a little bit of powder

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on top and do another layer
and it looks fantastic.

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And it goes a long way
because I don't add the

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the binders and all those fillers in here.

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So there's no clay, there's
no diatomaceous earth, there's no talc.

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And yeah,
so those are my two big, huge products

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that really, you know,
set me apart from, from the industry.

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So that luminaries.

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Or is it like a cream sort of a is it,
is it like a like what is the texture?

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The texture is like
it feels a little bit like a hard balm.

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Okay.

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And the warmth of your finger
because it's all basically all organic

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ingredients in the warmth of your finger

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just gives out
a little bit of a doing this.

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But this doing is just the right amount
of doing this that you can easily pop

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this anywhere you want on your face or on
your eyelid is so beautiful

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on your eyelid.

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Down the center of the nose, even on
your lips are mixed with the lipstick.

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And it's just a very

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luminescent.

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There's a little bit of light

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reflective glow in here
with a little hint of of of of color.

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Like it's a very luminous kind of.

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So I love that, too, for like,
you know, you know, again,

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as you get a little bit older,
some of the powder highlighters

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can be tricky or to use there.

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I will ask also take a step back.

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I think powders are always easier to use.

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However, we know as we get a little older,
the powders can seep into the fine lines

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and wrinkles.

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You know, they're not as user friendly.

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So, you know, I've switched.

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I remember when I was in my twenties,

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I was like,
I'm never using a cream blush now.

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Everything that I use is cream is nicer.

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It makes the skin look more moist.

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And it's more friendly for, you know,
as we start to get a little bit older.

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So that's more of like

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a, like you said, like a balm cream
that you apply and love that.

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But, you know, people don't realize it
when they buy a powder

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foundation or a powder blush
that those are baked.

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You hear the word baked all the time.

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I wouldn't
go near baking for a million bucks

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because what happens
that means that product put into heat.

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So the ingredients that I'm using,

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you know, the healthy ingredients,
the oils

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and things like that, that would be
that would go rancid if it was heated up.

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Right, Right.
I would go against the purpose.

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But when something's heated and baked,
you put it on the face.

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What's the first thing it's going to do?
It's been dried out.

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So what it's going to do is going
to suck the moisture from your skin.

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So it looks like
it's building up on the skin.

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It looks dry.

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Right, right, right.

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This is why I completely avoid them.

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Got it. So let's now talk about

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I know that you said the lip lights
launched a month ago.

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I have to ask you about this because.

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Oh, and I know we have a new launch
coming up that just rolled off my table.

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But how gorgeous is this

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red dimension hydropower blush?

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Tell us about this.

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This is I mean, just I opened it
and I was like, how gorgeous is that?

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Those are amazing.

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Those have done extremely well.

466
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,000
Now, that's a perfect example
of not being baked.

467
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:41,400
Okay?

468
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:41,920
That's a new.

469
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,200
Technology that is gel to powder.

470
00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:48,000
So it has long wear of a powder, yet
it has that moisturizing

471
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,240
properties of a cream.

472
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,480
So this goes on. Beautiful.

473
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,480
Now, what I did with that,
that is a new technology where

474
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,240
when that's created, it's
almost like a see through

475
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,480
a see through piece of of if you if you
if you was one year old woman,

476
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,960
it's like it feels a little rubbery.

477
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,040
I've been using it.

478
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,440
Sorry guys. It's
I put a little bit of myself earlier.

479
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,840
And so what happens
is it's almost kind of a see through

480
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,480
so that you don't have all the fillers
and binders in there.

481
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,480
So when you get this,
the color is just the color.

482
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,480
The highlight and the lowlights.

483
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,080
So I could take the palace color,

484
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,080
put it on the darkest skin,
and it won't go white or ashy looking.

485
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,200
It'll just go through color.

486
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,360
So those are really unique
in the industry.

487
00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:31,920
And the were the first ones to come out

488
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,680
with that kind of technology
in the clean beauty industry.

489
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,080
So we're super excited about those.

490
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,160
I'm dying to try this.

491
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,720
I wanted to keep it like nice
and fresh looking so I didn't try it.

492
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,360
But how many shades does
this come in? I got to see.

493
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,920
I wonder if this would be dark
or does it kind of apply?

494
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,000
Sheer Well, it depends how you want apply.

495
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,440
I just usually take a little
I take a big brush.

496
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,320
I like to go a little higher.
I'll show you all that.

497
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,600
Whereas the one I was using,

498
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,680
I just take this I like to take it
a little bit on the brush.

499
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,480
Now you can make it so light
if you wanted, or you just do a few more

500
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,400
coats in your build.

501
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,720
So don't be scared
or intimidated by the color,

502
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,880
particularly the color that you have.

503
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,960
Okay. Looks amazing.

504
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,360
I even the pale is skin,
but just apply lightly.

505
00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:21,960
Give it a little wash and you'll have
an automatic highlight in there also.

506
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,840
So it's not just a matte powder, right?

507
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,160
Given this dimension, it's very radiant.

508
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,560
It's very almost.

509
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,440
How do you say it's looking?

510
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,800
Just looks magic. Minus. Yeah, yeah.

511
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,520
You know, heavenly.

512
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,080
Let's, let's, let's steal
from the Victoria's Secret Angels.

513
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,280
Right. It's going to be heavenly.

514
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,280
And then, you know,

515
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,840
I have to thank you because I think that
this is a game changer.

516
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,760
So your products
now come with a refill, recharge.

517
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,320
So we know, you know, as consumers,
we're getting smarter.

518
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,520
We understand the toll our

519
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,960
you know, love affair with all things
beauty is taking on the environment.

520
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:01,800
Thank you for doing it.

521
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,160
Yeah.

522
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,600
We're really trying to be really attentive
to to keeping everything

523
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,520
as clean as possible for everybody,
including the ingredients.

524
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,160
So and now tell us about this new launch.

525
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,880
We had something that just launched
about a week ago, two weeks ago.

526
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,800
They just rolled off the table.

527
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,000
Let me grab them. Okay.

528
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,120
But tell us why you're telling us
about them. Okay.

529
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:30,200
So these are very okay as a makeup artist,
when I do lips and expand on a lip,

530
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,320
you know, make them look fuller
or whatever, change a shape.

531
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,120
I want to have the same color as the lips.

532
00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:38,040
I don't like to use a synthetic color.

533
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,200
Put it all around
that matches the lipstick.

534
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,800
I like to make the lips look bigger
and it looks like the real lips.

535
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,760
So we came up with these
as you can see, there's

536
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,040
six colors altogether, actually seven. And

537
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,320
they're amazing because they're they're

538
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,360
they're I've really directed this onto the
how do I word this?

539
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,480
I wanted these
to look like the colors of people's lips.

540
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,360
I didn't want some big bright line
all around the outside.

541
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,200
So as lipstick whereas out or whatever
you put on there,

542
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:11,600
it's not going to have that synthetic line
around the outside of the mouth,

543
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,320
because I think that is the worst thing
to see on a mouth.

544
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,000
Well, it's like very reminiscent
of the nineties, right?

545
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,840
You know, when we used to do that,

546
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,440
that like dark lip line,
I suppose it wasn't run brazen.

547
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,120
There was one color
that everybody was using.

548
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:27,040
I have no idea.

549
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,760
And one reason was that, you know,
it was like a Revlon color, but I forget.

550
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,600
It was like maybe who made it famous?

551
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,760
Who is like, Paula
Abdul made this color so famous anyway.

552
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,040
But yes, I also don't like this.

553
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,000
So these are very sort of neutral shades,
if you will.

554
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,920
Well, what you're talking about
is really interesting, because I did do

555
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,480
a deeper tone in
this is called the Midnight Nude OC.

556
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,560
I call the whole thing.

557
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,480
Let's get nude, kind of like gold pencils.

558
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,840
And what this is, this is a darker color.

559
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,520
I actually put this on myself
the other day was one of my lip lights.

560
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,440
Excuse me, with one of my lip lights.

561
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,640
It looked amazing.

562
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,520
And I thought, Oh my God.

563
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,720
I just drew a darker lip around my mouth.

564
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,480
I'm 68 years old and it looks fabulous.

565
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,880
Yeah. And it was I think
it just has to be the right colors.

566
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,960
And like I said, you know, this be a
you know, if you're really pale skin, pop

567
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,320
that on with it with maybe even the
the one that's just the adjuster.

568
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,080
I love is at the bare. The bare. Yeah.

569
00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:27,480
There's like my, my my all time go to
and you know what is so nice because I do

570
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,360
I you know of course I got this
like minutes before your podcast

571
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:35,880
and immediately threw on I'm wearing
this one right now in the sunrise nude.

572
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,840
What I loved about this
pencil though and you can see here

573
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,160
they go on

574
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,480
really nice and smooth
so it doesn't feel like a dried pencils

575
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,280
was able to kind of sit around my lip,
but also blend it into my lips.

576
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,520
So if you were doing something
like the nude, you can

577
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,280
sort of use this with maybe a little gloss
on top of it as your lipstick.

578
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,200
You don't need a lipstick. Exactly.
This is.

579
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,680
It is even.

580
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,720
Fade that that blendable fade with
from there a little bit of a darker tone

581
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,640
just to give some contour to your lip
and really build it up a bit

582
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:12,280
and just have that slightly fade out into
any of the lip lights is amazing.

583
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,680
I have to ask though,
I don't know if I've ever seen this

584
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,480
on a long before the brush.

585
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,280
Okay, tell me.

586
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,360
Yeah, let me explain that.

587
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,440
If you if you see some makeup artists
work, you'll see that they will go in

588
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,760
and they'll pop on a little V
in the center right.

589
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:37,720
So I like to have somebody start with
taking that that little end in is very

590
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,760
firm, is not soft and then going and hold
on, where's my mirror?

591
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,160
I'm going to use a mirror
that's not so pretty.

592
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,200
I need a magnifying mirror, guys. Okay.

593
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,440
And I'm going to go just like

594
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,080
and that gives out a little line

595
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,360
in here that you want
before you go and paint your lips.

596
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,800
And that way you have that little V
that's just doing that accent

597
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,720
for the center to center it and make sure
you're getting the right height.

598
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,280
You just take the angle
right over the of the bow.

599
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:04,680
Okay?

600
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,080
Now this
is also for and the two other things

601
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,600
you could use is a brush if you want
but and it like do

602
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,920
I like to use my finger or I like to use
a big brush to put on my lips.

603
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,000
It goes on easier.

604
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,480
But as an older person I have wrinkles.

605
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,560
So when I put on a pencil,
what happens is you get that

606
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,400
rickety kind of line.

607
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:29,720
It gets rickety
because of the little lines that kind of

608
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,280
like little riverbeds.

609
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,640
You take this pencil, I mean, on the brush

610
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,160
and you go like, not

611
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,200
and there's not

612
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,040
one single rickety
little thing from this child.

613
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,040
I'm noticing or noticing the rickety ness.

614
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,200
Really? Oh, that's lovely.

615
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,040
Is on my eyes.

616
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,280
The rigging I notice the rickety.

617
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,200
And this now really badly
when I try to put on eyeliner. Right.

618
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,840
If I try to put on the eyeliner, it.

619
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,000
It ain't so.

620
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,080
It ain't so smooth anymore
as it used to be.

621
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,800
You know what
I always tell as we get older?

622
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,520
And you're still really young, honeybunch,
cause you're still a munchkin.

623
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,640
But, you know, when you get to my age,

624
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,000
I always tell women, Stop
going for that cat.

625
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,920
I leave that for the young girls.

626
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,680
If you want that black smokey,
you know, look, just soften it,

627
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,040
you know, get a you know,
we have our little black ones here that,

628
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,040
you know, this is what I will use.

629
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,360
And I don't know if you can see it,

630
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,240
but I put just a little on the end
just to pull the eyes a little bit.

631
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,320
But I'll take the little spoolie
on the end and smudge it

632
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,160
because it looks so much better
on an older woman

633
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,080
rather than trying to a cat eye over
all the little wrinkles.

634
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,920
Then you get the wrinkles going down here.

635
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,640
So you can't, you know, it's
just it's just nicer just to soften it,

636
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,360
smoke it out a bit and it looks more sexy,
I think, on an older woman.

637
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,200
Gorgeous.
And I. Did you just hold up an eye pencil?

638
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,320
Does that have a brush
at the end of it, too?

639
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,120
Yes. Brilliant.

640
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:51,960
Yes. Thank you.

641
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,040
I like. These not amazing. Things.

642
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,480
You know, it's easier in that way.

643
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,360
You know,
if you have a few little lines in that

644
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,240
you're like you're
you're being it's a forgiving pencil.

645
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,080
Well, yeah.

646
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,240
And let's be honest,
though, we like having that extra

647
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,560
little tool included in your pencil,
because I've never seen this.

648
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,840
I've never seen a brush
on the end of a lip pencil.

649
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,000
It's just one last thing
that I have to carry in my makeup bag.

650
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:13,840
Yeah.

651
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,920
And another trick,
just so you know, where's my red hair?

652
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,320
Hold on.

653
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,720
I'm just going to put a little bit
more on my on my hand.

654
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,040
You're going to read
your red lips tonight.

655
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,040
I have to.

656
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:23,840
You know what?

657
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,120
Okay, let me tell you some.

658
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,440
One of the cosmetic companies did some
research years and years and years ago.

659
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,240
They didn't put it out,
but they realized what a

660
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,880
what is so attractive about young skin
beside the fact that, you know,

661
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,880
those faces are young, There's something
that that we don't think about.

662
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,080
They have darker eyebrows
and they have more color to their lips.

663
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,840
As we age, we fade

664
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:46,440
and then our

665
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,480
faces become kind of monochromatic.

666
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,720
And then we're putting on colors
that kind of look like our

667
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,600
little bit of tan,
you know, It's all kind of getting dry.

668
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,960
And I always say, Do the contrast
through your eyes a little bit

669
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,400
or your eyebrows a little bit darker,
even a little bit a darker

670
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,120
like always black mascara.

671
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,800
It makes the white of the eyes look whiter

672
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,880
where colored lips, because that contrast
is what makes the skin look better

673
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,920
and makes you look better.
It makes you look younger.

674
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,000
If I have no makeup on, I look
kind of like just boring and washed out

675
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,120
because my eyebrows are not this color
anymore.

676
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,640
My lips have a blue hue to them
and it's just it's

677
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,920
nicer to get that little bit of contrast,
just to give that little bit of use.

678
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,400
You know. Now back to this little pants.

679
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,520
One other trick
and this is a dazzle trick.

680
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,120
You guys have probably all heard her
talk about this.

681
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,400
What she does when she does

682
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,200
her lips is she takes
just in the inside here on the bottom.

683
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,200
She does

684
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,960
she paints it just slightly.

685
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,120
I've already done it.

686
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,280
I just exaggerated it more.

687
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,360
And you can see I'm
not doing the whole lip, just that bottom.

688
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,640
But look what it does.

689
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,000
It makes the lip look fuller.

690
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,200
It gives a little
like a little lift in a poke.

691
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,040
And she always will do
just in the middle here on that,

692
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,080
underneath, like literally
underneath the liner itself.

693
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,040
And it gives that little lift to her lip.

694
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,800
So she's notorious for having that trick.

695
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,640
And I'm just sharing it with you
guys, too.

696
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,680
But, you know,
I wonder if she learned it from you, from.

697
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,960
That one, from from me.

698
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,120
But I also you know, it's funny
because she did teach me another trick.

699
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,480
You guys might like this. Okay?

700
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,040
The other trick is blush.

701
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,240
I remember one time working with her
when I first started.

702
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,720
She said to me, Rosie,
you gave me my puppy dog look.

703
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,560
And I said, What are you talking about?
She goes, You gave me my puppy dog look.

704
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,000
And I said, Explain.

705
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,040
And she goes, Well,
she said, You put the brush too low.

706
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,760
Oh, so I'm going to just do it on myself
for for just to show you guys,

707
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,400
because I kind of like doing a case.

708
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,960
She I've had the blush
a little bit too low and

709
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,320
and then she went on the other side
and she lifted it up

710
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,040
and I saw her face in the
in the going up to the monitor.

711
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,720
I saw her whole face lift.

712
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,120
This lifts
the little face. This pulls it down.

713
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,360
Not only that, on an older woman,
it also accents this.

714
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,240
So you don't want that you try
if you if you can.

715
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,600
This doesn't work for everybody but
you know there are exceptions to the rule.

716
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,000
Try not to bring your blush below
the nostrils.

717
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,480
I love that.
Lift it up motion older woman.

718
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,480
And if she has bags which I do and I'm
just going to show you proudly my bags

719
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,320
take it up to the bag.

720
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,520
And that way it softens the bag.

721
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,680
Don't go in the bag, but just to the bag,
because if you look,

722
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,400
you've got a dark line here and the skin
tends to be a little bit bulbous here.

723
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,280
Then you got your blush below it.
What happens? It makes this stick out.

724
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,560
So it makes the blush look lower
and it makes the bag look darker.

725
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,400
So take that little bit of blush.

726
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,440
I was going to do it on the here
up to the bag.

727
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,840
You'll notice it softens the bag.

728
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,640
Oh, my gosh Rose-Marie, I could talk to
these is but you can see immediately

729
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,720
how much how lifted one side of your face
looks and how the other does not.

730
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,480
I think this is a beautiful trick.

731
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,360
Also, I know my mom is listening right now
and she I mean, my earliest memory of

732
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,120
my mother

733
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,240
is that she always wore red lipstick
and she stopped

734
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,000
when she was a little bit older But Mama,

735
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,680
look at Rose-Marie She is showing you
you can still wear that red.

736
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,400
The brushed will blush it through and
and you're good to go.

737
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,000
And another

738
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:05,640
another things

739
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,920
we are sorry to interrupt you on this
on this red topic with red lips.

740
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,120
I always tell people
people can wear a red lip.

741
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,440
It depends how sheer or how opaque it is.

742
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,080
It depends on what color of red it is,

743
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,600
whether it's an orange based red,
whether it's a blue based red,

744
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,240
you can find a red in most most
of the time that will match somebody's.

745
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,600
You know, agree to agree.

746
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,840
And I wear that red lip proudly.

747
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,600
Rose-Marie it has been such a pleasure.

748
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,800
I could get tips from you all day long.

749
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,760
If people want to know more about your
your products, any of the products

750
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,440
we talked about.

751
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,880
If they want to know more about you
and your brand, where can they go?

752
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,880
Oh my God, Instagram @RMSBeauty.

753
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,840
Our Web site

754
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,960
Tik Tok @RMSbeauty too.

755
00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:53,520
And yeah or just watch
some of the videos I'm doing lately.

756
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,200
There's a lot of stuff coming up, so I'm
trying to give more of my tricks away.

757
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,920
You know, a lot of makeup hours,

758
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,960
we hang on to our little tricks
and keep them secret.

759
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,320
Now I'm at the age I don't care anymore.

760
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,160
You care about my thing.

761
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,240
I know I've got tons of tricks.

762
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,840
Amazing. I want to thank you so much.

763
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,760
You're just a pleasure
and a joy to have on today.

764
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,920
Thank you for having me, sweetheart.

765
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,600
I really appreciate it was fun.

766
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,880
And if you have any questions at home
that you want me to pass on to Rose-Marie

767
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,000
or any of her team, I'm happy to do so.

768
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,800
You can email me
at hello@artbeautypodcast.com.

769
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,480
You can find us on Facebook, Instagram
and YouTube @artbeautypodcast.

770
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,560
And as always,

771
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,040
we will see you next Tuesday, hopefully
looking a little bit more luminous

772
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:32,720
and lifted up

773
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,120
by everybody.

774
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:44,080
Thank you.

775
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,520
All right.