1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,680 This is the Art Beauty podcast where we tell the real truth about the fake shit. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,160 Hi, everybody, I'm Amber. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,320 And today my fabulous co-host is Michal Morrison. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,160 She is the founder of Michal Morrison and we are talking about this 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,200 incredible product that she has called Genesis. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:21,760 This is based on an incredibly new high tech patented metal molecule. 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,920 We'll be talking all about that. 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,920 But before we get into the size of the party, 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,360 you talked so nerdy to me as I like to say, welcome to the show, Michal. 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,720 Thank you so much. It's an honor to be here. 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,000 Oh, I love having you. 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,000 You know, I want to jump right into this because when I was reading 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,640 about your background, it was really kind of interesting. 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,520 You started as an archeologist. 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,160 I did. 16 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:49,160 It's not the typical path to beauty entrepreneurship as it. 17 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:53,520 No, but can you tell us how did you go from archeology to beauty? 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:54,480 Sure. 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,680 It's just a pretty different story, not the typical entrepreneurship story, 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:59,800 that's for sure. 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,480 So I was in college when I first decided that I wanted to get into archeology 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,400 and was really fortunate to have a kind of professor 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,920 make some room for me on an archeological excavation to create. 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,320 And so I got to have my first experience. 25 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:16,440 I was 20 or 21 years old and getting to go to go to Greece by myself 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,280 without my family for the first time and have this incredible research 27 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,440 based experience. 28 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,400 And that's when I found that I really have a real love for science. 29 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,400 And research is really interesting to me, and it just went from there. 30 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,200 So I ended up working in places like the United Arab Emirates. 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,520 I worked in Puerto Rico, I've worked in Alaska, 32 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,760 Turkey, Italy, Ireland, all over the place. 33 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,400 So it's been a real pleasure. 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,920 I got to spend my twenties doing that. 35 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:41,400 Okay. 36 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,920 I've got to tell you, because I love watching like anything 37 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,680 on the Discovery Network, whenever I see these shows on ancient 38 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,480 civilizations, I've been to Greece, which is insane to be walking through, 39 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,640 you know, these ruins and that have sort of 40 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,160 some of them have been restored and some of them haven't. 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,360 It's just an incredible thing. 42 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,920 I mean, you must have some great stories. 43 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,280 Was there anything that you ever like like did you discover anything? 44 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:08,800 Were you on 45 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,400 any of these digs where like dinosaur bones was found or something like that? 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,920 You know, there's always really interesting things everywhere that you go. 47 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,600 The Emirates were full of fascinating objects. 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,040 You know, we found gold jewelry that used to be worn by women. 49 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,600 Women have been adorning themselves for thousands of years. 50 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,120 And it felt, you know, gives you a real kinship 51 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:32,120 with people who lived a long time ago to find things that really humanize people 52 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,040 that they lived a really long time ago. 53 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,040 But still, I don't think we've actually changed all that much. 54 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,120 People still want a lot of the same things. 55 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,040 They want to be surrounded by love. 56 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,960 They need safety in the world. 57 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,000 And also there's a real appreciation for beauty. 58 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,840 And so being able to see that and feel connected to women 59 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,920 from thousands of years ago was really beautiful. 60 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,960 I also have a real interest in Assyrian sex, 61 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,160 and so one of my favorite times, yeah, in the archeological record is 62 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,560 when people went from 63 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,880 just having to survive 64 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,760 to having a little bit of extra time on their hands 65 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,800 where they got to make things that were also beautiful, 66 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,960 moving from the functional to functional plus esthetic. 67 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,280 And so people's creativity and it's joyful. 68 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,680 It's joyful to see actually in Minoan culture on the island of Crete, 69 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,320 there's adorable pottery that's made in the shape of birds and hedgehogs, 70 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,640 and they have painting all over their pottery of animals from the sea. 71 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:27,480 And it's just precious. It's so much fun to study. 72 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,840 You know, it's funny when you were saying that before, 73 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,200 I have a friend who bought a property 74 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,280 in Ibiza, and 75 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,320 she they were digging up, they were doing some renovations 76 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,600 and they found like a what do you call like a pitcher 77 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,640 dug up that they're pretty sure 78 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,960 was some sort of, you know, but 79 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,920 it was old and kind of reading my words today. 80 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,360 But I was like, wow, cool. 81 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,600 So you being interested in pottery? Like what? 82 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,080 What a cool thing. 83 00:03:59,080 --> 00:03:59,440 Yeah. 84 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,920 I've been really fortunate to be able to spend a lot of my 85 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,960 a lot of my time doing that. 86 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,440 But in terms of your question too, about getting back to entrepreneurship, 87 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,680 I was at home actually in Austin, where I'm from. 88 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:11,800 I was born here. 89 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,760 It's becoming more and more rare these days to meet 90 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:14,680 someone who lives in Austin. 91 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,880 He was actually born there, right? 92 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,600 I had a big interruption in life. 93 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,920 I was in a really bad accident 94 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,920 here in Austin and had a severe traumatic brain injury. 95 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,480 And so I spent a year on bedrest and several years after that, 96 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,600 almost full time and cognitive and physical therapy, 97 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,240 I had severe aphasia and lost all my childhood memories 98 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,440 and really had to work extremely hard to find the right doctors for me, 99 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,760 neurological care. 100 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,280 That was up to date, honestly as well. 101 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:43,320 I was told a lot of outdated medicine. 102 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:47,160 And so again, I've really benefited from innovative research, 103 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,760 which is one of the reasons why I'm so excited 104 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,120 about what we're doing with skin 105 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,120 care is once I found the right doctor who believed in neuroplasticity, 106 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,920 believe it or not, I didn't hear that word 107 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,200 for the first 14 months or so after my accident. 108 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,240 So all that to say, I went from a really intense lifestyle of living 109 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,080 all over the world in remote locations, no access to health care. 110 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,200 You know, it's really hard on your body to okay, I've had a traumatic brain injury. 111 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,320 I was able to make a significant recovery, but I still have day to day 112 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,120 issues that I have to deal with. 113 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,240 Archeology probably doesn't fit that. 114 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:19,560 And, you know, 115 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,480 moving into applying for jobs for the first time as a disabled person, 116 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,720 that was such an eye opener to me about the kinds of barriers 117 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,560 that are still in place for people who have health conditions, 118 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,560 whether they're chronically ill or they have a disability that they were 119 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,440 born with or that was acquired the way that I had an acquired TBI. 120 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,720 And so I just had some really negative experiences around that. 121 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,680 And that's what funneled me toward entrepreneurship, is 122 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,200 I want to create an environment 123 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,760 that works for me that I get to control a little bit more of my schedule, 124 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,880 have a say about company culture, 125 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,680 and hopefully hire other people who've had similar situations. 126 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,320 I mean, that is incredible. 127 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,480 You know, before we move on to, you know, the beauty part of this, 128 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,400 can you just enlighten us a little bit about what that experience was like for 129 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,320 you as somebody who had a traumatic brain injury trying to apply for jobs? 130 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:09,880 Sure. 131 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,080 It's you know, it's a really emotional process to recover from a TBI. 132 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,120 It changes you as a person quite a bit. 133 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,880 I was fortunate that my actual personality didn't change, 134 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,760 but I had know a lot more to deal with in terms of my health. 135 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,320 And so thinking about the traditional workplace, traditional workplaces 136 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,320 are not set up to be accessible to everyone, 137 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,360 but a lot of people actually don't want to hire disabled people, 138 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,600 even if they would never say that in practice, that's what ends up happening. 139 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,560 So I, I know a lot of other people 140 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,240 in the disability community who are either underemployed chronically. 141 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,840 They work part time because they can't get a full time job. 142 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,200 People who might pay for their benefits because they're expensive since 143 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,880 or they're just unemployed and they can't find somebody to take them seriously. 144 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,320 And that's what I experienced is, okay, so you've had a brain injury. 145 00:06:57,840 --> 00:06:59,160 Can you even do this job? 146 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,120 And I got to the point where, yeah, I can and now I have value that I can bring 147 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,520 that I didn't have before. 148 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,000 I have a new lived experience. 149 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,520 I know how to make a better product. 150 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,160 I know how to communicate with more empathy and authenticity 151 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,480 than I did before. 152 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,960 That's valuable to companies that are like hundreds of 153 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,840 thousands of people who have disabilities in the United States who are unemployed. 154 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,360 And they should be picked up like that because they have these skill 155 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,680 sets and a perspective that would be invaluable to companies. 156 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,960 So I definitely experience that in the application process, 157 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,960 and that's difficult for a disabled people 158 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,640 to figure out as well is do I disclose my disability at all? 159 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,800 And if I do, when? 160 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,840 Because is this a safe person who will, one, have compassion 161 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:48,960 and to like follow the ADA that there's laws in place that should be protecting us 162 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,520 and it doesn't always function that way, unfortunately. 163 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,320 Wow. I mean, that's got to be so tough. 164 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,720 And I know, you know, having done many job applications, they do have that. 165 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,360 But do you have a disability, which I guess 166 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,200 that would be really challenging if you do to have to make that decision. 167 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,920 Do I admit this? Do I not? 168 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,240 When do I tell them? 169 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,360 Just adds a whole other layer of complexity onto the already 170 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,800 challenging process of going through interviews and applications? 171 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,120 Thank you for like kind of filling that in on that 172 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,840 for people who might not have experienced that or know anybody who has. 173 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,200 So. So now, 174 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,440 how did you then work on funding? 175 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,400 Because you've got some incredible science behind this Genesis product, 176 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,440 and I definitely want to get into culture. 177 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,240 How how were you introduced to that? 178 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,400 I assume that through your recovery and dealing with you said great doctors 179 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,280 talking about neuroplasticity. 180 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:50,080 You must have had insight into, wow, there's things going on in the body 181 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,040 that were not, you know, maybe the regular public isn't even aware of. 182 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,840 Yeah, and that's definitely the case with stem cell science, is 183 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,360 it takes a long time for things to go from a lab 184 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,520 where researchers are working on things that trickle down into everyday science. 185 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,480 And that's what I experience with my TBI. 186 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,600 I was told, stay in a dark room, 187 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,200 sleep as much as you want, or whatever your body is telling you to do. 188 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,240 And that's old news. 189 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:20,600 I almost slept for a year and I needed to do the opposite of that to recover. 190 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,920 So once I got the right science, absolutely everything changed. 191 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:24,520 For me. 192 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,600 It was excruciating to go from barely 193 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,120 being able to function at all, not being able to hold a conversation, 194 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:36,520 much less like make a new memory and hold on to the realities of life 195 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,280 around me to okay, we got to kick it into high gear 196 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,920 and really push yourself in order to recover from a brain injury. 197 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,160 But I'm so grateful that I did find the right doctor. 198 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,040 I went up to Pittsburgh. 199 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,040 Actually, they have a sports concussion program at UPMC that 200 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,800 I really do credit with my recovery. 201 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:57,240 So yeah, once you get good science, it really does change everything. 202 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,560 It sure does. 203 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:00,000 And thank you again for sharing this. 204 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,320 I mean, to me, you know, for lack of a better term, this is mind blowing 205 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,440 because you are so eloquent, you would never be able to tell 206 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,680 that you're somebody who who had to sleep for essentially a year. 207 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,400 And that's going to be so challenging. 208 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,200 And relationships on everything. 209 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,720 So thank you for sharing that with us. 210 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,680 So so what was that aha moment and how did you get in touch 211 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:26,880 with a doctor who had been working on this beta stem six? 212 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,800 Right. So that's Dr. 213 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,280 Michael Khan, who's the progenitor of all this amazing science. 214 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,280 I feel really lucky to work with him. 215 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,920 So 2020, you know, March 2020 came around. 216 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,840 Everybody was locked down in their homes. 217 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,960 And it really struck me, as you know, I've had such a bad experience 218 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,920 applying for jobs to work for other people. 219 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,400 Maybe this is my time to start my own company 220 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,240 and then I get to be in the driver's seat. 221 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,480 It was a big mindset switch for me, and so I jumped in 222 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,240 by doing about six months of research about the industry prior to coming in. 223 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:57,440 You know, 224 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:57,720 of course 225 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,000 I don't have a background in beauty, and that's becoming more and more common 226 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,200 for beauty nerds to come from really varied backgrounds 227 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,040 and I definitely fit that category as well. 228 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:12,400 And so during that six months of time, I was introduced to Mr. 229 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,760 Paul Primo, who who's my acting CEO of the company right now. 230 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,680 He has decades of experience in personal care, 231 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,040 pharmaceuticals, luxury, beauty, fashion, like you name it, he's done it. 232 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,720 He's really a titan of the industry 233 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,360 and has helped a lot of entrepreneurs get their companies up and off the ground. 234 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,280 And the minute I met him, I knew I need to work with Paul. 235 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,160 This is a game changer for us. 236 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,920 And he introduced me to Dr. 237 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,080 Michael Kahn. So that's how that came about. 238 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,880 Dr. Kahn has been working on this for 25 years, and it actually started 239 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,640 in cancer research. 240 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,760 He and some colleagues were looking for a cure to colorectal cancer, 241 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,600 and it has happened so often in science and in research that you go 242 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,720 looking for one thing, asking one question, 243 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,760 you end up with hundreds of other questions 244 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,400 and you find all of this other amazing stuff. 245 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:03,200 So that's where our research came from, is that 25 years 246 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,800 of foundational research in stem cell medicine. 247 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:06,960 Great. 248 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,800 So now tell us a little bit about this beta stem six. 249 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,160 It's a meta molecule. 250 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,000 Okay. Okay. 251 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,880 Tell us a little bit about what the science is behind that. 252 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:18,960 Sure. 253 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,800 So just some basic information about skin 254 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,600 is that when we're born, our skin has an ability 255 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:30,840 on the cellular level to self rejuvenate, but over time, that ability diminishes. 256 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,560 So I think about it sort of like a dimmer on a light switch as it starts to go down 257 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:38,280 a little by little, and that activity within your cells goes down. 258 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,440 And that's when the aging process really starts to accelerate 259 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,280 and people start to see visible signs of aging. 260 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:48,000 So beta STEM six is a biotechnological breakthrough 261 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,920 based on that research from Dr. 262 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:55,240 Michael Kahn that reverses that process and incorporates cells again 263 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,040 into the process of getting rid of damage that's been accumulating over time. 264 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,760 So you end up with skin with really significant longevity. 265 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,840 After that process had been turned off beta, some six turns out back on skins, 266 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,200 our skin cells are recruited again. 267 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,920 It's the process of erasing damage and across the board the results are remarkable. 268 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,560 Okay, so tell us about some of the results that you're seeing with this, 269 00:13:17,560 --> 00:13:21,840 because I did go on your website and the before and afters are beautiful. 270 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,040 Thank you. I appreciate that. 271 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,240 So we decided to invest in doing a clinical study with Dr. 272 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,400 Zoe Trehalose from Duke University. 273 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,320 She's one of the top research dermatologists in the United States 274 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,840 trying to work with the very best of the best across the board on this venture. 275 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,920 So we did an eight week study 276 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,880 and of course, we're really working hard at R&D, So we're introducing another study 277 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,080 in the next couple of months to study out to 16 weeks. 278 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,680 But even at the four week mark, we had people in our clinical study 279 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,480 that started noticing results that if you use something like a tretinoin 280 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,880 or retinol can take six months to a year to see. 281 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,680 And that's one of the really powerful things 282 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:02,640 about this, is that a STEM six is not inflammatory, by the way, that retinoids. 283 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,400 And so for people with really sensitive skin like myself, I have rosacea 284 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,240 and melasma and a variety of other things 285 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,840 that make me really sensitive to an inflammatory response. 286 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,600 This doesn't cause that at all. 287 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,560 So all skin types are safe with this. 288 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:22,160 And at the eight week mark, people start to see an increase in luminosity. 289 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,440 Skin laxity is decreased, which is really exciting. 290 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,680 That's a really tough thing to tackle, especially around the neck area. 291 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,280 A lot of people have concerns about that as they age. 292 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,640 We had some people who had really good results with that fine lines and dark 293 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:36,080 spots. 294 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,840 Even so, this isn't just targeting one sign of visible aging. 295 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,560 It's targeting a lot of them and one false, you know. 296 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:43,920 I notice. 297 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,800 So I always look at before and after and hypocritically. 298 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,520 So one of the things that I look is like, does the eye color match? 299 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:50,040 Right? 300 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,480 Because I you know, we know that things can be manipulative in this day and age. 301 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,240 You can really doctor photos, even though I know that you're not supposed to. 302 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,760 But I always look for that. 303 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,960 I can't match yours a perfect. 304 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,280 And one of the other things I notice, in addition to the skin being brighter 305 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,560 and just looking better, a lot of the redness seemed to be lessened. 306 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,200 Is that something that you feel like is is 307 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,240 is is happening with this product? 308 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:21,360 So we've gotten a lot of feedback from people who have flushed skin or rosacea. 309 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,960 You know, we didn't test on rosacea specifically 310 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,840 and we are selling this as a cosmetic and not a medication. 311 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,800 And so technically rosacea is a medical condition. 312 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,640 So that's not something that we're making claims about. 313 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,640 I don't want to overstate the line with that, 314 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,760 but a lot of people who've had very flushed skin have had great results 315 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,760 where that redness is brought back down, which is great news for me, because 316 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,800 the minute I step outside in the Texas sun or Heaven, I have a hollow piano. 317 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,440 It's game over over here. Oh, I hear you. 318 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,200 I hear it's in the wind. The wind here. 319 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,880 Although it's been a mild winter in New York City, you know, that dryness 320 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,760 that the cold air can really wreak havoc on the skin. 321 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,360 You know, I'm also interested in 322 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,520 I want to point out, you know, one of the other things 323 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,080 I loved about your product and that I noticed immediately 324 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,760 is that the packaging has Braille on it, which I don't know if we can see here. 325 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,120 And now that makes so much sense that you are really looking out for people 326 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:18,840 with disabilities. 327 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,120 I think it's the first packaging and a beauty 328 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,800 in the beauty space that I've seen that has Braille on it. 329 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,320 And you know, I've seen it on a few products, not all of them, 330 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:33,120 but a few on La Roche-posay and I think a brand or two in Europe. 331 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,480 And you know, I never had trouble with my sight 332 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,400 after my TBI, but that really opened my eyes to wow, 333 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,680 brains are not made with disabled people in mind. 334 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,440 Stores aren't really designed for people who have disabilities to navigate 335 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,600 and be really engaged. 336 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,800 And I want to make this a more accessible brand. 337 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,200 I know that there are people who are waiting to feel included 338 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,040 and like someone cares about them and that they're welcome into the community. 339 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,520 And that's really important to me because having a disability, particularly 340 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,320 in the United States, can be very lonely. 341 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,120 You know, I'm going to encourage everybody right now. 342 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:15,480 We did a fabulous podcast with a woman who works with sight 343 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,600 impaired people to help them apply makeup, to help them do their hair. 344 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,600 She helps them find products that they can, 345 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,200 you know, feel their best even though their sight might be impaired. 346 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,440 And I thought that was such a wonderful, inspiring 347 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:31,560 episode, too, because, yes, I agree with you. 348 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,440 I don't think that enough care is put into people who have disabilities. 349 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,000 And, you know, your proof of that right now is telling us that. 350 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:40,880 So going 351 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,920 back to a little bit of your discovery of this, 352 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,560 you meet with this doctor and then what was he? 353 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:48,160 Did he say, 354 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,280 you know what, I've actually been thinking we could use this in skin care. 355 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,160 Like, tell me more about that. 356 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:53,640 Sure. 357 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,440 So, you know, 358 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,080 he didn't start this whole process with the anticipation 359 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,080 that this was going to enter the beauty world. 360 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,440 He comments on that to me a good amount. 361 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,040 Like, wow, I never expected to see my work, 362 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,440 you know, with talking to beauty editors about it. 363 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,400 So it's a pretty exciting thing for him, I think, to see how far reaching 364 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,000 this is actually going to be as this amazing sort of workhorse 365 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,080 material that we get to introduce for the first time to the beauty industry. 366 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,080 And they were really focused on that cancer research for such a long time. 367 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,880 They found through that process that there was a really amazing impact on skin. 368 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,840 So he's actually still working on the pharmacy side. 369 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,800 My company owns all the pharmaceuticals, not the pharmaceutical rights 370 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,320 are the cosmetic rights to the molecule. 371 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,760 But he maintains those pharma rights. 372 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,800 So he's working on fascinating research right now. 373 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,800 This molecule works as an anti fibrotic and a wound healing accelerant. 374 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,680 And so he's working on that. 375 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,720 It's incredible. 376 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,840 Happy to connect to you if you're interested. 377 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,480 He's working on amazing things that have wide, far reaching implications. 378 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,000 I love that you said it before. 379 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,800 It's like so many times in science, they find something, you know, Botox 380 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,800 as a cosmetic was discovered because they were using it in a medical sense. 381 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,040 And then they said, well, 382 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,080 patients are coming back and seeing them a lot less wrinkles. 383 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,360 Lattice was another one that was used, you know, to cure iconoclasm, 384 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:14,800 pressure in the eye, maybe grant coma. 385 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:18,840 And they found wow everybody's lashes are growing super long. 386 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,280 So this was like he was studying essentially colon cancer 387 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,840 and was like, hey wait a minute, maybe there's an application 388 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,600 for a rare enough on our face to look. 389 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:32,040 Absolutely. 390 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,760 And I'm grateful for that because it definitely saved my skin. 391 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,280 And, you know, I was really inspired to get into skin care because my mother 392 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:43,040 has had a ton of trouble with skin cancer and my grandmother's as well. 393 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,560 And so having that as part of my worldview growing up, 394 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,280 I was a really dedicated consumer in this industry for a long time. 395 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,760 I'm so grateful to my mom. 396 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,840 She told me, Wear SPF like it's your job. 397 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,080 And I have. Thank you so much, Mom. 398 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,240 I think that will save me a lot of grief in the future. 399 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,960 But we have access now to this really inspiring science. 400 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,280 A lot of it doesn't actually enter the beauty industry very often, 401 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,600 which is one of the things I'm most proud of that 402 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,600 we get to bring that forward as a brand is, 403 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,880 you know, intellectual property floats around every once in a while 404 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,360 that brands can sort of compete over 405 00:20:16,360 --> 00:20:19,240 and try to offer something really differentiated in the market. 406 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,920 But most of what you're seeing is 407 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,720 brands using the exact same ingredients over and over. 408 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,720 And was ingredients work there effective for, you know, a variety 409 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,200 of skin conditions? And, 410 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,040 you know, I'm I use a lot of them. 411 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,240 I absolutely love Skinceuticals as an example. 412 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,120 I haven't gone a day in the last couple of years 413 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:38,440 without the discoloration Defense Absolutely. 414 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,160 Nice. Okay. 415 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,320 But we actually had. 416 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,400 That as a pretty good Friday, I have to say, for New Beauty. 417 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,040 So, yeah, discoloration on your skin is beautiful. 418 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,880 You know, we are seeing a lot more though, you know that 419 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,160 that we're blending sort of science and beauty. 420 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:02,760 I was just talking with a biotech woman who actually patented a delivery system 421 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,120 that she uses for pharmaceuticals and she's incorporated 422 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:09,640 that same delivery system into a line of skincare. 423 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,000 So I think that we are starting 424 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,120 to see a lot more of that science in beauty. 425 00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:20,560 You know, going back to Genesis with the stem cells now, 426 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,880 I think what people think stem cells, sometimes there's 427 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,920 that controversy of visit human derived, is it plant derived? 428 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,080 What is the latest STEM six. 429 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,080 That's a great question because I have seen, 430 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:33,240 you know, there's some misinformation, I think, about stem cell science. 431 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,320 And I remember I did a presentation on stem cell science 432 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,840 when I was like a junior in high school, and that was when it was becoming part of, 433 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,040 you know, people's 434 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,920 understanding of the world and a topic that people were talking about. 435 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,720 And it was very controversial. 436 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:51,880 So molecule that we have works on your cells, We haven't bottled stem cells. 437 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,160 There's, you know, brands that make claims around 438 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,960 a variety of things like that or that they use plant stem cells. 439 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,680 But stem cells are very species specific. 440 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,480 And so there's not evidence that you will change your skin 441 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,720 by putting a plant stem cell on your skin. 442 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,640 So right now, if you want something really regenerative, 443 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,440 you can go into doctors that offer this and have your blood drawn 444 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,800 and have stem cell injections, which is really exciting. 445 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,400 It's. 446 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,360 Mm hmm. 447 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:22,600 Have you done that before? 448 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,280 No, but I'm literally leaving this. 449 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,800 The reason that I'm not is done up right now. 450 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,520 I'm literally going from this to do a microneedling with Exosomes. 451 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,760 There you go. I've heard amazing things. 452 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,280 Please tell me, like, if you like. 453 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,240 It, say yeah, which is essentially it. 454 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,840 Which is essentially stem cells, correct. 455 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,480 I mean, yeah. 456 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:40,840 It's also. 457 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,600 Going to learn all about this. Big thing. 458 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,360 Yeah. That's really exciting. 459 00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:48,960 So we have something that works on your cells by attaching them. 460 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:50,120 Yeah. 461 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:52,080 So we're not, we're not battling stem cells. 462 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,520 I'm not sure if anyone's actually done that or if that's even feasible. 463 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,720 They don't last that long outside of the human body. 464 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,880 So and that's one of the a good point to bring up, too, 465 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:01,600 is that there's a lot 466 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,920 of misinformation in marketing, and that's something that as the founder 467 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,600 I want to be really careful about is people deserve, 468 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,040 frank, authentic, trustworthy information. 469 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,520 And there's a lot that is confusing or vague 470 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,480 within the industry or making claims that they can't back up. 471 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,400 And that's the reason why we did our clinical study. 472 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,120 And it will continue to put money and time and effort behind R&D. 473 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,000 Michael, I cannot tell you enough how impressed 474 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,800 I am not only by you, by your products, but also by your brand ethos. 475 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,240 When I went on, you have your ingredient list broken up, 476 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,840 and by every ingredient you explain why it was put in there. 477 00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:43,200 I have so much respect for you for doing that 478 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,560 because a lot of us will go on and ingredients can be tricky. 479 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,120 I've worked in the beauty industry for a long time 480 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:52,920 and I look at an ingredient list and it's like, whoa, Because you know, 481 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,080 we know that things can be disguised as other things, right? 482 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,480 And unless you are some sort of a biochemist, 483 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,840 a lot of the times you can't tell the difference between these nomenclature. 484 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,680 So I really do appreciate and I think it's wonderful. 485 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,360 And when you read the reviews in your product, 486 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:11,400 so many people were absolutely blown away by what you said, the transparency 487 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,160 and also the science. 488 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,280 Thank you so for the results. 489 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,920 I appreciate that so much. 490 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,800 You know, being trustworthy and authentic is really important to me 491 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,920 as a founder, which is one of the reasons why I want to share my story. 492 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:28,280 I think we need more examples of disabled people, both in the industry 493 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,400 and in the world at large, which is one of the reasons 494 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,400 why I want to use my platform to do that. 495 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,440 But even down to, you know, making our ingredient list really visible, 496 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,640 that doesn't happen on every brand and every product. 497 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,320 And to your point, a lot of it's very confusing as well. 498 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,680 We have a very simple formulation and we did that on purpose. 499 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,640 Beta STEM six is really the star of the show, 500 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,480 but we have a few other peptides. 501 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,640 Copper is in there as well, 502 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,440 which is really, really effective at creating collagen underneath your skin. 503 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,080 And so 504 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,560 there's supportive ingredients there, but we wanted to keep it very simple 505 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,800 on purpose, which contributes to it 506 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,480 not being inflammatory on a lot of people's skin. 507 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:09,560 And I will say when you apply this, the texture of this is so gorgeous. 508 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,680 I mean, and it feels, you know, this product that I hate to just say they 509 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,200 feel rich and luxurious and afterwards your skin is going to feel baby smooth. 510 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,240 And I love it because it's not greasy. 511 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,840 That's quite a bit on my hand, but it is a beautiful it's 512 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,840 beautiful formulation and it feels great on the skin. 513 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:32,240 If people want to know more about this right now, where, where, where can they go 514 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,560 and find us? 515 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,800 So we're selling direct to consumer right now. 516 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,200 So on our website is where you can find a lot of information over time. 517 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,840 We're going to be building out. 518 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,280 So I feel good. 519 00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:44,360 So again, I think it's in the hands. 520 00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:46,560 It's like so good. Yeah. 521 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,560 So for me, because I live in Texas, it's so humid here, I cannot stand products 522 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,760 that end up feeling tacky on your skin, 523 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,400 which is why we went with a serum instead of a moisturizer, 524 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,360 because you don't feel that any more to you. 525 00:25:57,360 --> 00:25:59,360 Like No, and I'm sorry. My hands are so veiny. 526 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:03,320 But it's also it has a beautiful like I would almost like satin finish. 527 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:03,880 Right. 528 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,400 So it's going to give you a little bit of that luminosity. 529 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,480 But without that grace, you're going to look glowy, not greasy. 530 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,920 Right. And I don't I don't need help with the. 531 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,480 Yeah. Feeling. Yeah. 532 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,200 You're getting my products. 533 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,440 Yeah. 534 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,040 So can I ask you right now, this is you are the star 535 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,840 and only product in your line. 536 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,440 Are you thinking about expanding it at all or are we just going to kind 537 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,360 of stick behind this? 538 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:33,480 So I really want to focus on getting beta stem 539 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,720 sticks front and center as part of our approach. 540 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,040 This is a new ingredient, and so we owe the people information. 541 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,320 And so that's one of the things that we're going to be building out on 542 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,640 our website is an opportunity to talk more about the science, not just of skin, 543 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,760 but how beta STEM six works as well as part of our effort 544 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,480 to really make sure 545 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,200 that people feel empowered and like they have access to that information. 546 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,000 So we'll probably be in the market 547 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,520 for about a year before we introduce new products. 548 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,440 They'll probably be treatment oriented. 549 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:03,760 You know, 550 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,080 eventually we might branch out 551 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,280 into some other things, but a lot of people are doing cleansers 552 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,320 really well, a lot of people advisors really well. 553 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,160 And there's also not 554 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,000 a huge need to put beta Semtex and something you're going to wash 555 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,880 right off your face. 556 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,480 Like I wouldn't hold it, you know, in a cleanser. 557 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:25,280 So we have some, some ideas up our sleeve and are continuing the research 558 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:30,280 and development around that as well around different applications of the molecule. 559 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,520 There's a lot of exciting stuff coming down the pipeline. 560 00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:36,240 I cannot wait to see what you come up with and I want to thank you so much 561 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,480 for giving us your time today. Michael. 562 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:38,880 As I said, 563 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,000 if people want to know more about this, what is the website that they can go to? 564 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,000 It's Michal Morrison dot com. 565 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,280 And you can also find us on Instagram @ Michal Morrisonskincare. 566 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,920 And apply that's m i c h a l. 567 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,800 I will have that in the show notes will make sure to have a link to this 568 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,880 and thank you so much for being with us today. 569 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,600 Thank you. It's been a real pleasure to talk with you. 570 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,120 I've loved it. 571 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:01,480 And if you at home listening, 572 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,280 if you've tried this, make sure to post on social and tag Art Beauty podcast. 573 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,840 Make sure to tag Michal Morrison. 574 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,320 And we want to know what you're thinking. 575 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,200 And of course, if you have questions you want me to pass on to Michal 576 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,280 or any of her team, I'm always happy to do so. 577 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,720 You can email me at hello@artbeautypodcast.com. 578 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,720 You can find us on Facebook, Instagram and YouTube @artbeautypodcast. 579 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:31,680 And as always, we'll see you next Tuesday Bye.