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This is the Art Beauty podcast where we
tell the real truth about the fake shit.

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I'm Amber and today my fabulous angelic
co-host is Selena Polgardy.

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She is a cosmetic artist.

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And this woman, I call her an angel

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because she is all about using her skills
for good and giving back, helping women

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who are either going through cancer
treatment or the fabulous survivors.

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One of the things that she specializes in
is microblading and brows

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and giving women their brows back.

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Selena, it is such an honor
to have you on the show and thank you

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guys.

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I was so impressed

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when I saw some of the work
that you've done with women.

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You know, I think that

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for so many of us,

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we know we may know somebody who has had
cancer, who's been touched by cancer.

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But I wonder if sometimes we forget,

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you know, how hard it must be
when you're going through that.

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It is women.

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Yeah.
Like they are going through treatment.

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So I've actually even with giving back
have taken it back a little bit then

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just to say, hey, you're getting this
because you're going through treatment.

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Okay, I'm
just trying to be a friend to them.

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I think more so like sending them
different cool things.

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I love it.

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And you have actually created
an entire makeup line, GLAM by Selena,

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which we're going to talk about
a little bit later.

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But why don't you tell me,
how did you sort of

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get in to this and

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I want to make sure that we're not
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that I'm now making sure
that I'm calling this right.

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But you are you do offer
women free microblading services who are

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who are going through this treatment,
right? Correct.

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Or who have been through. Yes.

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So I do giveaways now. I got crazy.

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I was offering it to everyone at first
and then it got so crazy

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and so now you giveaways where I give away
a free pair of new eyebrows

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and I do a bit of microblading
and ombré brows.

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So it's a bit of shading as well.

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Sometimes a bit more delicate on the skin.

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So. So how did you get into this?

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I worked as a makeup artist

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in-store for other makeup companies,
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And the biggest question was always like,
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at the end of the night
because you did my eyebrows so good or,

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you know, my eyelashes,
my eyeliner, my lips.

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So it just that strikes something in me.

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And then glam by Selena was created.

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Got it.

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So you were getting into sort
of this cosmetic

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permanent makeup artistry,
doing both. What?

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Like lip blushing
and then also microblading for brows.

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Yet also lip washing
microblading eyebrows and tattooing.

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So I talked to a lot of them,
got micro pigmentation.

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Okay. Oh, I see.

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What was that in melanin right there?

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The melanin, yeah.

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You like to always keep up,
keep your skills sharp.

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Yeah. And I have different clients.

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I have alopecia and different know, so.

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But I do body camouflage as well.

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So stretch marks,

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it can be done in class without the ink,
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machine.

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So I've been trained on a few things.

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I train all over.

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You know, COVID
changed a couple of things.

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So we were able to kind of do a few other
things, maybe also from home.

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with some international people
and it's been really cool because,

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you know, now I'm back and forth
like we were going to talk about this all.

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Taking place between where.

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So California, Tennessee
and it was North Carolina.

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But now we've been trying to focus here.

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Okay.

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And you're you're here right now.

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You're in Nashville.

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I'm in Nashville, yeah. Okay. Got it.

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So I was recently in Nashville
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Awesome. Awesome city.

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So much fun.

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Like, you know, music everywhere.

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Such a great time.

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And then you're able to see California.

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That's nice.
You're getting the best of both worlds.

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I know.

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I'm so fortunate
because I have people that I meet here

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that are like
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They haven't ever gotten on a plane.

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And sometimes we think just because
we travel, you know, it's a lot.

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But really
some people we're fortunate to do it.

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Oh, these remind myself that with work,
you're like beach time

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going back and forth.

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Oh, no, no, no.

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It is very lucky thing, you know.

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So I do want to talk about

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I love that you said now that you do
sort of a lot of stuff virtually because,

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you know, I wanted to bring you on
because, again, for women who are either

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who maybe
just found out that they have to undergo

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chemo, who have had to undergo chemo
for four people who have survived

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that, you know, there's certain skincare

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and makeup tips
and things that I think that people,

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you know, who haven't been through
that aren't even aware of.

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And I was wondering if you could sort of
give us sort of an overview

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of some of the skincare and makeup
textures that you give to people.

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I So skincare. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Skincare is a big thing to me

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because my family personally
was affected by skin cancer.

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And that's a big thing.

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It's a big role behind
why I do what I do, and I had to have

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a big chunk taken out of my neck.

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So I really try to preach to people.

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Use a physical sunscreen.

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So that's something that sits above
the skin, you know, and not chemical.

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As long as you look for a good one,

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it cosmetics has a great I tell people
at least if you want to go out

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and this is for my survivors and warriors
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they may be just drained
and they have a CC cream for IT

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Cosmetics, which is a color corrector,
but also SPF 50, right.

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And that's a physical sunscreen.

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So that would be a big skin to wear.

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Your sunscreen moisturize,
even if it's tinted,

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just to give you a little glow.

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Yeah. So that that's a big one for me.

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Now, when people are going through chemo,

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what are
what are some of the effects that we see?

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You know, I think we all are aware of hair
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Hair loss not just on your head,
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My boyfriend's

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mother just went through chemo
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and radiation and she had burns after
just trying to heal the wounds.

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So, you know,
they go through a lot physically as well.

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And I think a lot of this
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that are going through treatment.

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My dad lost his dad to cancer
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But he's so affected by it
and you really see the toll it takes.

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I think you have a friend who's mom,
you know, you just never know.

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It can.

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My grandmother passed from
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You know, pancreatic cancer is
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But I know how that feels.

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We just lost my aunt not too long ago,
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like it was basically nothing.

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And she had pancreatic and it spread.

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I was right now like it wasn't a good
reminder to everybody listening

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go get checked up.

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You know I know that with COVID, too,

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a lot of people were putting off
going to the doctor.

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But go get your tests.

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Go to your doctor
if there's something weird.

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Skin cancer is one of the most deadly,

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but yet most preventable types of cancer
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So go get your skin checked once a year.

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Please do it.

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Going back to that,
you know, you were mentioning.

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So we've got things
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other possible burns

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and then is the skin
get just very dry through chemo?

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It does it get you know,
you go through changes in the hair loss.

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Some people grow

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hair back, some people don't you know,
they're still fighting to get it back.

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So are there certain things
I want to make sure that this is easy

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sort of for people and digestible
for people.

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So let's start with the skin
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but when you're going through chemo,
are there certain products that you found

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that you like

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or that people that you know, your clients
who said, well, I like the.

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So you know how you said
their skin gets very dry and parched?

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I suggested almond oil to a lot of people
and they really like it okay.

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For hydration

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because sometimes other things can soak
into the skin and not necessarily hydrate.

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Okay. A lot of silicone.

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So trying to stay kind of natural,
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Coconut oil sometimes can be drying.

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People do safflower oil.

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There's just happened to that.

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For skin
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And then like we talked about, always
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I wouldn't suggest something super

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poor clogging because they're
they can get rashes on their skin as well.

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But I would highly suggest
that it cosmetics.

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You like the
you really am liking the masks

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and what about if you're not looking
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What if you're a little. I'm sorry.

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What are you looking at to do
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But is there, like, just a nighttime
moisturizer cream that you like?

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So I I'm going to say,
because I've been in the cosmetic field

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for a little bit, go to your dermatologist
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Really invest in your skin care

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because I can suggest cetaphil
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If you're going through anything,
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and just see kind of what's affecting
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and just start there,
but really invest in your skin care.

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I've learned over the years
it makes sense to have a good one

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because if you're just sitting there
putting ingredients on your skin

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that aren't doing anything

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and just kind of clogging like a lot
of dimethicone and silicone and things.

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And so yeah, invest in your in your skin.

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I think that's a wonderful, wonderful tip.

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haircare and I know
that you're really more of the face,

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but you do deal with the,
you know, the the tattooing.

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Are there things that you like
when it comes to hair care products?

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So hair care, I think

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if they're growing their hair back,
I suggest using like a coconut oil

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and castor oil
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You know, it only does so much the PRP
injections and a lot of people try to do

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different things like the freeze cap
if they had that during treatment.

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So it just depends on what person you
always try to make his appearance in this.

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That's okay.

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Listen, he's got opinions, dear.
We all do. It.

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So many.

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But yeah. So yeah.

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So now
let's talk about the permanent makeup

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because you have really transformed
some lives.

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I love seeing all of the images that
you have on social media on your website.

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You had video of women
who have have had treatment.

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And it's just it really is a game changer.

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What is what is the process for that
when you're doing microblading?

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So I asked you a couple
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I asked if they're still on treatment
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permanent makeup while being on treatment.

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I changed it up a little bit
because I lost one of my survivors

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and she was a very big one to me
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to get eyebrows on her because of COVID.

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And that's why
I started doing a lot of the virtual. But

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we lost her, so I just was like,
I can't wait.

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And she kept wanting to even pay me.

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And I'm just like, at that point,
I just couldn't take her money

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because I didn't, you know,
now I have it to the giveaways, but

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that was a big thing.

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And I'm like,
now I'm just saying, do it for Dana.

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And if they get cleared by a doctor
because like if it takes

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only a little bit of time
that they have left,

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they got some brows on them, you know,
and sometimes

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we can do it,
sometimes we can't, you know.

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Yeah.

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So once you've been cleared,
I mean, this isn't something

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that is, is, is,
is a little bit on time, right?

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Like so the brow procedures
like 2 to 3 hours.

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Can you tell us what you do
during that procedure? Yes.

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Because say, you know,

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I've done eyebrows on someone
that hasn't had eyebrows in 17 years.

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So it could be starting from no hair to
they just got done with treatment

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and have no hair or very little
from later years later in life

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where they grew back a little bit
but don't have a lot of hair in there.

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So yeah, it just depends on that.

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And you really structure it
and it takes a few follow up sessions

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because they you heal on peel,

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so you lose a little pigment
and then each time we added perfects,

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I hate saying this, they're sisters,
not twins.

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But I really am like a baby trying.

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Do so, so, so walk me through that
because I mean, I think

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there's a lot of people who are
probably listening to this right now who.

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Wonder.

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Who does microblading
but really don't know what it really is.

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And now we've all seen early old
I remember my school nurse

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from when I was in elementary school
and this was like a thousand years ago.

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She bragged that she had the permanent
brows.

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And, I mean,
it just looked like somebody had.

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Was it like. One color? No.

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You subsidize the

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you know, but they were they were brown,
but they just looked like,

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you know, we've got all kinds.

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Trend, right? We've come up.

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Yeah, we've come a long way before.

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It was just a lie, you know, basically.

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No, no. Hers wasn't like the Britney line.

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This isn't this I'm talking about.

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This is like in like the early nineties,
late eighties.

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And, you know,
she just had the brow tattooed on,

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but it was just like,
you know, one color and the outline of

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like what you would think a brow would be,
oh, so we've come a long way from now.

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Right now,
they do like a lot of their strokes.

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So tell you tell us
what what what's different today.

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So that's actually a big thing
correction work

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because some people have gone
through treatment and then they want them

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corrected, you know, because someone did
do people have different skin types?

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So that goes with tattooing.

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The machine work is good for oily
skin versus microblading.

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Sometimes those hair strokes
won't look good

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if they're not on the right skin type.

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So that has a lot to do with the process
and if you notice

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now you're going to look in the
mirror when you get home. But

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one eyebrow is higher than the other,
right?

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Right.
Not that's why you called them sisters.

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Not not twins. So we try to do our best.

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I'll sit there and I'll knock them out
and I try to actually raise it

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and give it a more lifting look.

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In general,
this is just my technique, right?

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But I just try to give them a youthful
appearance and we go from there.

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Usually they just answer those three
health questions and then we get them set

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up. Now I've been doing the giveaways,
so I'll collaborate with someone like you

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where we'll do a little giveaway,
where we're

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giving it away to a warrior survivor
and they can win that.

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I love that.

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I want to know more about this, though,
because, again, I'm really trying

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to make it clear for people who have
who let's pretend that it doesn't do it.

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Microblading is we've heard of it,
but it Microblading

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can you explain what Microblading
is to somebody?

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So Microblading uses a

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different types of blade.

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There's a nano blade and regular blades.

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I use a new blade and we go in
and we create fluffy little hair strokes.

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Okay, so that's. When you say a blade.

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But but essentially what we're doing is
we are tattooing on.

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No totally different people
get that confusion between microblading

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microblading is not technically
it's like because it's applying

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ink under the skin, but that's not like
tattooing like with the gun tattooing.

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Okay, so.

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That's why I say I don't just microblading
a lot of people say,

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you know, she's known for Microblading
actually I'm known for more tattooing.

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And then I do a little bit

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of that three D definition work in there
because they're two different procedures.

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So that's where I was saying
the oily skin,

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you want to go in with the machine versus
the strokes because that manual stroke,

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it may not hold.

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So really
when you're looking for an artist,

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especially if you don't know
about permanent makeup,

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that kind of knows
a few of the different techniques based.

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Right.

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Great.

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So, so now now we're cooking with gas.

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Your sister, now you're following me. So?

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So I'm a person who clearly doesn't know

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the difference between two or what
to ask for.

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What are the things that I should go in
and not mean specifically?

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But if I'm listening to this podcast
right now, I'm thinking

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I think about Microblading,
but I don't know, do I?

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What are the things that I should go in
and ask an artist?

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I would go in and I would ask for before
and after, of course.

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So before and after pictures, you know,
you can ask them

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a little bit of about their license
because it's always good to know.

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You never know these days,
you know who's doing anything.

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So just be like,

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you know,

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how long have you been doing this
or license or where you've been trained?

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So, you know,
look up their credentials, their work

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and ask if they are familiar
with all the different techniques.

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Okay.

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So John and so
what are some of the different techniques?

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So it would be the microblading
and more of the shading

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which is tattooing such you can. Yes.

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And you said that for people
with more oily skin.

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The microblading more from the shading.

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I would say, yeah.

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Why is that sometimes microblading?

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I don't know.

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Have you ever gotten permanent
makeup done? No.

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No. Okay, so this is what I explain
literally to someone who's never had it,

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is that the shading gives
your skin more retention versus

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the bleeding are little strokes that you
really have to make sure you make apart

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or it can all bleed together
in the first place

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and then become blotchy.

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So that's why I ask
if someone's done permanent makeup,

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because they could be like,
Oh, it's just light.

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It's not that bad, but really, it's
all the ink that's under there got,

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all went together.

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So now I.

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I always wondered
if you have your brows microblading

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like what happens later on if.

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You want to make sure
and this is that that part

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that you have a good artist
because you want to come back in your skin

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to be good and healing,

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not just microblading and microblading
and microblading after and after.

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And that's why make sure you know
your artist and the different techniques.

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And that's
why I'm a little bit pricier in my area.

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But it's because,

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you know, I really take my time
and I'm super picky about people's skin

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or if something does happen
in their skin reacts

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the I'm very upfront with them
honest I'm not just like have eyebrows on

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for two years know

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your face is the first thing to the sun
you know you exfoliate it.

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People use Retinol right which
can actually affect the color, correct?

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Correct.

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Because they can crawl
even though they think they're

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keeping it away from their eyebrows.

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You know how products can fall
retinol. Right.

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And Vitamin A's and vitamin C
is, you know, so, yes, that's a thing.

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And I go over that. I have a one.

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So so but so one thing for
people to be considering is

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cancer survivor or not.

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If you've ever had microblading
and we've talked about this on the podcast

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before, you want to be really careful

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with the products that you're using
because that can affect the color. Yes.

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Okay. Got it.

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It can.

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More so like in the color,
they're already going to like,

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you know, in their own right
because they get lighter because our faces

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the first thing to the sun
and like we just talked about exfoliation.

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So the only time
the color really turns bad is

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if it's a certain ink that oxidized
in a weird way or undertone

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which then people color boost
or you can color correct.

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And that's something
you want to be aware of too.

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Just in case
you pull more warm or pull more cool

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and you personally would like that
changed.

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Speak up to your artist
because if you keep going back for a

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touch up or a second or third session
because of how your skin holds pigment.

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Right?

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You know, you want to speak up with that
because it's ink that's being placed

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and sometimes we can boost it if you give
it enough time to make them aware.

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So you mentioned like the 3D effect,
and I know prior to us recording this

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you were talking I had a young girlfriend
who is a breast cancer survivor.

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She found out when she was 30.

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And yeah.

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And unfortunately, when they
she had a double mastectomy

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and they couldn't save any of the nipple.

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So she is considering I really do.

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Incredible, incredible 3D.

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You have to. Come down to Nashville.

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That's what you need.

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Then you can come hang out

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and she can get her nipples done by Jeff
or Caitlin up at the shop.

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They do amazing work and they do it
for free for breast cancer survivors.

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So can I ask you,

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you know, you have been, you know,
firsthand working with these women.

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What is the reaction that you see?

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So they get very happy
once they're healed,

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when also something we left out
was when you first get them done,

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no, they're going to be darker
and then they peel.

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So also going in
when you're picking color,

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let your artist know
if you like a darker eyebrow.

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But that's the first reaction
once they are so excited to have them on.

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Some people don't know who they are
and then once they start to soften,

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I'll get messages and they're just like,
I haven't had an eyebrow on in years.

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My kid can splash me in the pool
and my eyebrows don't come off.

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Or, you know,
someone that hasn't had them in 17 years

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where their whole salon
noticed that something was different.

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But what right.

439
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You know, and it just gives them
that confidence and it just that's

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a lot.

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That's so, so wonderful,

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you know, you also I want to make sure
that we get to talk about your makeup

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line.

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Tell us what made you decide
to create a makeup line?

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When I lost my survivor,
who we were talking about, Dana,

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I, I locked myself in my mom's room.

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So it was really hard.

448
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I think when you first lose somebody
because you go along with them,

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I feel as if,

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you know, you're lost, too.

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It's like a piece of you.

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So sorry.

453
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Oh, I'm so sorry. It just gets.

454
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You know, that was a hard one.

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And I've lost other ones since.

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And I don't think it gets easier,
you know, even like that.

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Yeah.

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When you lose one, it doesn't get easier.

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So it's one of those things where you're
just like, you want them, why they're here

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and you try to send them things
or do things to make them feel better.

461
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Yeah. Sometimes that's a big thing.

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Oh, but yeah.

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I am super.

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Depressed and locked myself in.

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My mom's room and I just was creating
things like a mad scientist.

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So I even had people
that were like laughing at me like, Oh,

467
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you think she's going to come out
with makeup?

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Like, you know, because I would go around
passing out these little samples

469
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and like, your jars, you know, they
probably were like, What the heck is this?

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But two people that I knew had an effect.

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Or, you know, they do makeup or

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and it's just so cool to see it
come to fruition because,

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you know, I literally care about
what's in the products.

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And like we were talking about,
there's a balance between synthetic

475
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,960
and organic, but I try to keep it
to where it's a little bit better.

476
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,320
You know, that's yeah.

477
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,520
I mean, listen, I think that, you know,
we want some preservatives

478
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:39,360
in our products, otherwise
they would get bacteria and mold.

479
00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:40,320
And, you know.

480
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,120
That's like last in

481
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:45,560
and you know this because I'm sure you've
done so much with your beauty podcast.

482
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,720
So it's I'm sure you've talked about this,
but people

483
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,360
get these bad ways that they have to be
paraben free or have to be.

484
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:57,520
But like you said, it keeps preservatives
in really going into this

485
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,600
and how I was creating product,
I saw that like you actually needed

486
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,200
when you really start to do research

487
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,760
and why we've even come up with some of
these ingredients, you start to see.

488
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,400
But the fact that I even care about it
because there are people

489
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,240
that put a product on the shelf
and they don't care,

490
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,160
I'm sure they don't care to read it.
But like this is a great product, right?

491
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,680
Whatever makes it work,
I will sit there and I will say no

492
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,800
ten times and I'm like, No,
we have to do it this way, right?

493
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,320
Because I'm just like and it's even
held me back

494
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,480
sometimes from some launches,
but I want it to be good.

495
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,520
If I want to use
it. Then you don't want it.

496
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,120
And this

497
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:34,280
is your line now you've got eyelashes,
brows.

498
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,320
The whole. Yeah.

499
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,480
Beautiful lip glosses.

500
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,240
Correct.

501
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,920
That's nice.

502
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,160
And other goodies.

503
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,720
Oh, can you give us a little hint?

504
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,920
So I, I really like, you know,

505
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,960
if someone can't do the permanent makeup
and need a little stencil, right?

506
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,440
So I'm working on a little stencil.

507
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,600
So we're going to come out with it
and you can use any of your eyeshadows

508
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,440
at home.

509
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,800
There are brands out there
that come with something to do it.

510
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,880
But because so many people have reactions
to the certain

511
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,480
inks in these products,
I was like, You know what?

512
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,720
Leave it to whatever they use.

513
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,360
If you have an eyeshadow that you use
and your eye doesn't react from it,

514
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,920
put that on your brush sister and stencil
it in and they're really good stencils.

515
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,640
And that goes to for the cancer
survivors and warriors.

516
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,000
If they don't have hair,
at least gives them a guide to go buy.

517
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,640
So like I just gave you all the tea,
right?

518
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,040
Oh, good. No, thank you.

519
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,840
I think, you know, it matters so much

520
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,520
because I'm sure there's so many people
just don't even know where to begin.

521
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,240
You're building is overwhelming journey
or maybe you've just come out of

522
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,440
having to go through this intense,
literal battle for your life

523
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,560
and you're ready to

524
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,200
start feeling good about yourself
and you want to feel good about yourself.

525
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,360
And it's like, where do you begin?

526
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:55,160
Yeah, I love what you said earlier.

527
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,840
So when it comes to skincare,
talk to your dermatologist.

528
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,280
I love that
you mentioned a set of pills cerave.

529
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,760
Those are very light cleansers.

530
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,840
We all know about almond oil
and some of the other oils

531
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,160
that you mentioned
to the body of your beautiful.

532
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,440
Are there any other makeup,
you know, besides your own but brands

533
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:18,800
that you feel like are are especially user
friendly for survivors or warriors?

534
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,840
I would say I'm such a big person on that
it cosmetics.

535
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,400
I mean if there's anything you can do
to protect your skin, it would be there

536
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,160
because of going through treatment
and it being so open to pollution.

537
00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:32,040
So it would be that

538
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,920
there are amazing cheek stains

539
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,160
that just give a little bit of blush
back in or you can use a little shadow.

540
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,320
Even lipstick is a trick.

541
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:46,080
DAB a little bit of your favorite pink
or red rouge and just dab it as blush.

542
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:51,080
Yeah, I love the eyelashes
whatever brand you can get your or

543
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:54,200
yeah basically any brand
you can get your hands on whether it be

544
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,360
Walgreens online, somebody's brand
you know, learn do a couple tutorials

545
00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:02,720
you can find so many things on YouTube
and also just

546
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,960
being aware of people teeth.

547
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,240
My whole thing is
I want to teach more classes, so

548
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,840
I do like to do more zooms
because of COVID and lives

549
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,000
where we might be showing them
how to do some more tips and tricks

550
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,200
because it may be hard
or if they can't find it on YouTube

551
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,440
or it just didn't click
with how someone shared it, sometimes

552
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,600
people could have different tricks,
just like that.

553
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,640
Lipstick on the cheek, right?

554
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,880
Right under your eyes for circles.

555
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,120
And then you just put your concealer
over it, very light.

556
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:36,640
You're going to look like

557
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,600
you have a blocked down eye,
but then just put strokes red.

558
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,240
It counteracts that dark color.

559
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,360
I know that too.

560
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:49,320
I had a makeup artist once and before
she put concealer, she'd pull out a

561
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,440
I would take a reddish brown cream
and she was like, Just watch this.

562
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,720
And she had it on the
just the dark circles, not anywhere else.

563
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,280
And it will actually counteract the color
and it let your forehead

564
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,960
consider going beautifully.

565
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,600
You know what?

566
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,400
I'm going to I'm going to let you
now tell us.

567
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,120
So if people want to hear more,

568
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:11,400
I think you gave us some really great,
wonderful, usable tips here.

569
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,960
I want to thank you for everything that
you've done for warriors and survivors,

570
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,600
especially in the term, in terms
of adding that permanent makeup back on.

571
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:21,960
But if

572
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,280
people want to know more about you,
if they're interested in

573
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,680
maybe taking classes with you or
reaching out to you, where should they go?

574
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,600
Yeah, you can email me
right through the website.

575
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,600
It's glam by Selena dot com.

576
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,280
It'll say book now but you can press
that as well or down on the services page

577
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,560
just to shoot me a message about anything
that you want to talk to me about.

578
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,160
And then where are your lives
going on on Instagram?

579
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,520
We are doing more on Instagram.

580
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,480
So we're going to do a few more

581
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,320
and share some videos on some tips
and tricks, some reels.

582
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,240
And is that at Glam by Selena?

583
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,080
Yes, it's
the glam underscore by underscore Selena.

584
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,880
And in that bio you can see
all the other that cosmetic page

585
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,320
and the permanent makeup.

586
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,080
Are wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.

587
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,080
And we're looking
I'm looking forward to hearing more about

588
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,280
these possible launches from you,
the stencils.

589
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,920
We will look forward to those
and launching those.

590
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,240
I want to thank you so much

591
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,720
for being with us today
and for all of the work that you do

592
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,680
for women
who, like we said, warriors and survivors.

593
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,800
Ank you and thank you
for being real about makeup.

594
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,440
I love your whole vibe.

595
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,920
Oh, you know, we got to keep it

596
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,680
real, because, listen,
where else are you going to go?

597
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,600
I tell the truth.

598
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,240
I don't let people pay me to tell a story.

599
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,200
I will let brands like yourself from on
talk, but then I want to ask the questions

600
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,200
that I want to know. Right?

601
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,840
Like, listen,
Microblading is a fabulous thing,

602
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,240
but people need to know
that that color can change.

603
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,560
It's not all.

604
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,640
It's not a one and done procedure
and you have to just be aware of that.

605
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,080
But it's still a fabulous procedure
if that is.

606
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,480
Yeah.

607
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,400
On that note, I'm going to let everybody
go and have a fabulous time

608
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,720
if you want me to pass any information
along with that question.

609
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,640
Do you want me to ask?

610
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,720
Leanne I'm happy to do that.

611
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,960
You can email me at our podcast,

612
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,840
you can find me on Facebook, Instagram
and right here on YouTube, the podcast.

613
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,920
And as always, we'll see you next Tuesday.

614
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:28,080
By Saturday.

615
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:28,520
All right.