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This is the Art Beauty podcast where we
are always reaching for truth in beauty.

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Remember the brands on the show
are not paying to be here,

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so we get to ask them the questions
we know you want answered.

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Because you deserve to be informed

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so you can make the best choices
for yourself.

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With that said, I'm Amber Milt and today,
my fabulous co-host is Christina Kao.

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She is the founder of La Mini Macaron,
which is a line of at home

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nail care products and DIY gel manicures.

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We're going to be talking all about this
for my DIY girls.

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You're going to absolutely love this.

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But before we get into that,
welcome to the show, Christina.

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How are you doing today?

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Thanks Amber,
I'm so excited to be here and to meet you.

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I'm so excited, too.

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So, I mean, we are right now in the thick
of winter here in New York City.

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Where are you located?

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I'm in Barcelona,
so it's not as cold as New York.

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I used to live in New York,
so I know how it can get.

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It's fairly sunny here, but yeah,

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we get a little bit of the chills
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I am so jealous.

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So by the way, my husband and I,
we went to Barcelona and both of us agreed

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that of all the places in the world,
that is a place we can move to tomorrow

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because we loved it.

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First of all, the city itself
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Gaudi's
artwork everywhere and architecture.

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Yeah, the people were great
and I love the whole lifestyle, right?

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So tapas, eating little bites because
I like to eat a little bit of everything.

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And then also,
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you've got the beach, you've got the city,
and the people were just so magical.

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It's a wonderful place.

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I think you've got
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like you said, tapas as in the day
time, sangria and cover at night.

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So it's really a lovely,
magical place for sure.

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You are so lucky. Now.

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Were you originally from Barcelona?

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No, I am from Alabama.

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Okay.

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Which is very surprising for most people.

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My family is from Taiwan,

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so I was born in Alabama,
but my parents moved there when?

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Before I was born.

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And then I grew up there
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So I was living in New York City
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So I was in China for a bit,
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gosh, you are just living the dream life.

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With that

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said, you know, I know that
we are all still in this idea of New

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You New Year, new you,
and in your case, new nails.

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And I think that sometimes our nails
are something that maybe take

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a little bit of a back
burner in terms of care,

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but yet are so important.

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I am a Germany girl now, generally
at this point in the New Year,

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I try to give them a break,
but it's hard when you're doing work.

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I work with New Beauty magazine,
lot of stuff on camera.

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Like they always have to look good.

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So, you know, when it comes to this idea,
we had a great podcast on sort of nail

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rehab with the doctor who is like,
No gel nails, let them go bare.

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But more realistically, I feel like,
do you have some,

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you know, tips for those of us
who, like, just can't go without our gel?

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Her can't go without a mani?

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Definitely.

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I mean, I'm one of those people.

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I think the the reason I got into gel
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in a marketing corporate job, I needed
to have my nails done all the time.

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I was doing a lot of events.

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I like having my nails
perfect polish, finish looking.

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It pulled together my outfit,
and then I was getting into the cycle

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of always having my manicure
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and then having to get into the salon to
get them painted, which would take time.

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And then you are booked back in
for your removal, right?

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Because you needed to have them help
remove it.

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And so I was always in the lover of the
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of like that gorgeous chip free, shiny
mani that will last you like 3 to 4 weeks.

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But I didn't love the time that it took.

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a lot of people say, well,
it can be damaging.

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and what's damaging is not the polish.

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is the removal process actually,
because you see them file it down.

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And I think that's
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it's thinning out your nail,
then you're getting another manicure

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and then that's getting
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So that whole process,
I think, can burn out your nails.

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You know,
I'm a big fan of doing it at home now,

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where I control the application,
I control the removal.

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So, you know,
I tell people, just don't file so much,

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you know, like if you're changing it up
weekly, like we have a product,

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you know, our products,
you can change it weekly.

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It's a one step.

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So it's really meant for you
to be able to do it when you want,

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you know, change up the manicure to
match your outfit or your mood that week.

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But when it's time to remove, it's
very easy to do that.

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And then,
you know, it's a bit lighter on the nails.

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So also another thing that we've seen,
have you heard of gel cycling?

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Amber I have not, but but maybe I have

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or it's kind of like give it a break
in between your gel polishes.

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I mean, yeah, it's what it sounds like,
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you know, in the press
and people have been writing about it

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and I know
people have been talking about it.

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So as you know, with the pandemic
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being able to do your own manicure,
really became a thing.

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I think a lot of people
got good at it. Right.

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And like you save your time.

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You're not having to, like,
run to the salon.

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So that habit has stuck around.

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But if you're doing it regularly,
you do want to take some breaks.

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And so that brings in your nail
care as a break in between.

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And I do recommend
if you're doing it really regularly,

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probably every month or two,
just take a week off, right?

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And like rebuild your nail a bit.

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It makes a difference.

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when I've had a little bit of downtime,
I try to do like almost a month off.

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It certainly doesn't get rid
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But going back to the damage, you know,
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she pulls out the drill and I'm
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But, you know, I get it.

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It's a time thing for them.

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But I that's where I kind of fell in love

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with this idea, especially of your kit,

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which is can we just talk about this?

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How adorable is this at home, Kit?

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This is your little gel light,
which does look like a delicious macaron

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cookie,
but you have these gel removal wraps.

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And I think if nothing else, you know,
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because, look, I admit it,
I like to go to the nail.

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You know, they freshen up the cuticles,
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they never look as good
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But it's time, it's money.

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And, you know, you lived in New York,
New York. There's a salon in every street.

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But I think of all my women around
the world who have to get in the car,

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drive to the salon. Right.

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Do that, you know, So
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think
these gel remover wraps are a game changer

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because I'm I'm really you know, when I

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when I opened this kit and I was like,
wait a minute, I could do this.

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I think that you've made it so easy
so that we can avoid some of that damage

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that we know
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I hate to say it, but it's going to.

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Yeah, I think, you know,
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the manicure system that they're using
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So they're doing the base, the color,
the top door colors, two or three coats.

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There's many layers in between
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they're filing the nail, right.

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Because they want the polished wood here.

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It's going to last longer.

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They're giving you value.

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If your manager lasts a month.

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But then when you go
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Like, that's the whole point.

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So that's where they pull out the drill
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to break down those topcoat layers
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You will see that they wrap it right?

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So they will wrap it with
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That is the process for removal.

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I think what I like about the
at home process, I mean, definitely

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there are gels that are the three steps
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We do a one step because our product
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who have never really tried it before,

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wanted to get into doing gel at home,
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be something really difficult
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I love these colors
that you're showing so fine

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and we have a lot of like fun pop colors
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done is when it's really eye catching
and I see like a great color and people

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always compliment me when they see
these like really bright colors.

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So yeah,
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you know, definitely the one step,
it's a base color topcoat all in one,

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the three and one

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formula and it allows you to do it in 15
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It's very light on the nails.

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So I always like to say easy on easy off.

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The removal process
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is the same as the salon
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So you're going to want to like, file
the surface of the Mani

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that you want to remove
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And then you wrap wait about 15 minutes,
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I'm sure you know that effect.

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Well, if you're a gel lover
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You can use the cuticle stick
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We also have tools to help you remove it
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And yeah, it's
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Gives you the freedom to do it
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You can remove it when you want the wraps,
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So if you are a regular salon user
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I would just make sure
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because if you're doing that three step,
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then it just the acetone will penetrate
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So I do recommend giving it a try
sometimes if you want to DIY,

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if you're traveling a lot, it's
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If you are a salon, go and you have a chip
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It's always nice
to have a little system with you

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right when you're out on the road.

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So you know, we keep it real here.

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And full disclosure,
because I got it until Kristina Day,

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I was like,
I haven't tried this yet because again,

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my nails have been under like
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And I just was like, let me just go
to the professionals that said

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they are starting to chip
a little at the top, right?

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90% of the time when I go to the salon,
I bring my own gel polish.

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I find that like I have a signature
pink color that is basically this.

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So I'm so excited because this is my jam.

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But then today I was thinking, and I'm

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so glad you told me that this is not a
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I'm just going to paint them over

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clear again
because they're starting to look whatever.

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I realized I have that here.

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I think, though,
that being able to go back in and like

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have a chip nail fix, like you said,
as somebody who's on the go,

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being able to go in,
even if you have a professional do this,

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but then being able to touch your own
nails on the girl is so clutch.

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Do you have a lot of people who write in
and tell you this is what I use it for?

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Definitely.

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I think we're so pressed for time right
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Yeah, we have so many demands
now more than ever.

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And I think, you know, when there was
the pandemic, people had more time.

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They were at home.

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But now we're like running around out
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So many things we have to get to.

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I'm the same.

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I have a little get together later.

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And I touched up my nails.

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I didn't want to redo them and, you know,
I think with these polishes,

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you can just go over it with like one
coat, right?

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If you have a little snag or you want to
just, like, freshen it, make it glossier,

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you know, if it's been one or two weeks,

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just go over with another coat
and it'll do the trick.

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So are your polishes, you know, let's
speak about the polishes really quickly,

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because one, I didn't realize and my bad
that this is a one step.

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Are they meant to be left on
as long as a traditional gel manicure?

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Like maybe I'm going to say 2 to 3 weeks,
I think a month.

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God bless
if you can keep your nails for a month.

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But 2 to

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3 weeks,
I mean, are these days last as long?

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So the ones that gel,
I usually say will last 7 to 10 days.

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They're really designed
to be light on your nails.

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So they're not going to go the 3 to 4 week

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distance the way the Salon one does,
because the salon has that base color top.

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It's all kind of sticking to each other
and it's all built up.

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The one step is really light,
you know, you can paint it on now

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if you want it to last longer,
you could do a third coat.

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We also sell a gel topcoat separately,
so you know,

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it's funny because we don't really talk
about our gel topcoat a ton

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because we are really known
as that One-Step 15 minute mani

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and yet the topcoat is actually the single
best seller of all the single bottles.

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When I see that every year, I'm like,
That's so strange.

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But I think psychologically people
like having a topcoat.

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We don't blush at a time
because we're like, Hey, you know,

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this is all about convenience.

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It's fast when you need a touch up,

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when you need a mani express mani,

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you don't need to have all those tools
and all those layers.

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But we do have a lot of people
who like to have it, and I think maybe

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they want it for the two or three weeks,
you know, that longer extended lasting.

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And you know, is your top coat

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is it compatible
with other brands of Polish.

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I know a lot
goes into the formulations of these

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but like let's say for example,
I was to order the top coat

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I needed to freshen up the mani today.

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Is that something
that you could do on the go?

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We get this question a lot like is are

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are any of our policies of
how can we mix and match with other lamps?

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Can other polishes work with our layouts?

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So this question of mixing and matching,
I would say generally,

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yes, you can use different polishes
and different layouts

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and you can use the topcoat over
if you have a gel mani

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that you want to give it
another week or two, you can use it.

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It's really about the curing.

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So depending on what you're painting,
whether you're painting with ours

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or another brand, you are going to want
to read that polishes sure time.

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So you know, our topcoat

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will cure in 30 seconds because it's
part of the system of our lamps.

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You know how many lamps are 30 seconds.

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So our whole system is like every cure
is 30 seconds and then you're dry.

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You can do another layer if you want.

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But I think if you're using,
you know, a more professional brand,

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it might say, Hey, you're the top coat
for 120 seconds, right?

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So you just read the instructions
on the bottle of the polish

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that you're using, and then there's
lots of different lamps out there.

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So depending on what lamp
you're using ours, we have a mini.

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We have a deluxe
set that dries four fingers at a time.

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So just depends on on what you want to do.

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So this is a one step.

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So it's one finger at a time.

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It's the 32nd, you know, the lighter
you punch the button,

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the light will go on and it's 32nd dry
with our polish, it's 30 seconds.

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So if you want to use it
with another brand,

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just make sure
you read their instructions.

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You know, if they need 60 seconds, just,
you know, hit the button twice.

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But yeah, it goes with a USP,
which I think you're looking for.

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But on the.

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Other hand, right now, USB stick.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. It just look. How cute this is and.

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Then it's so portable, so and then.

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Yeah, blind everybody and fast.

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So one finger.

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I mean, I got to say, you know,
we have valentines coming up

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and Valentine's coming up
and what a great gift to give that person

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who is on the go, who is a traveler and
you know, with a little bottle of polish.

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Now I can you take this polish, let's say,

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because

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I want to take a step back.

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We've talked to people before.

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You can mix and match stuff.

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But keep in mind,

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and I tell this to my managers
all the time,

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because they'll pull out a topcoat
from one brand.

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You know something from SC or OPI,
you know, and they're polish from another

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and a different base coat.

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And I've told her before, I'm like,
you know, these are really designed to go

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together. It's not the campy used

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mix and match,
but they're, they're designed, right?

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You've got chemists

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who've spent time and energy
making sure that they work with the system

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that said, could we take this to our,
you know, manicures?

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We didn't want to do it at home
and then take this on the go.

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You can.

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So I also do it.

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You know, I will not say that
I never go to the salon.

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I do sometimes go to the salon because
they do help clean up if I need it.

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What they do is they'll use their own base
because they want it to last

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a long time, right?

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So and then they'll layer our color
and then you can either bring our topcoat

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or use their topcoat,

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but you can certainly use the color
you can sandwiched in between.

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And then the little lamp can go with you

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wherever you need, you know,
and just touch up as you need.

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I mean, I'm telling you, everybody
who's ever traveled, you are just singing.

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You're like changing my life right now
because,

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come on, this would fit like, in a pocket
somewhere.

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Is it safe to travel with it
through the TSA?

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No problems, right?

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yes. it's so funny.

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We had one of our influencers
make a video of her

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painting her nails on the plane
and it went super viral.

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I think it was like
7 million views or something.

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And people were asking,
they're like, doesn't it smell the job?

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Polish doesn't smell the way
nail polish does.

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Like gel
polish is fairly low in terms of the odor

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and then the polish isn't flammable,

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which people never know this,
but regular nail polish is flammable.

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The gel is not.

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So you can do it on the plane
and then you plug it to your laptop

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or a battery charger
and just save some time.

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Like just paint your nails
while you're on the flight

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or paint your nails
while you're, like, waiting by the gate.

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No, I mean, I suppose.

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And just to show people. Yeah.
So I just plug this in.

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I was looking
I have like a little computer port here,

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but it is your USB and,
you know, it's really nice too.

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It's the Usb-c.

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So you probably have this charger

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for some sort of thing in your arsenal. So

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here you go.

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You're charged in, you're ready to rock.

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I want to show you something.

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Amber So the little lamp has a magnet.

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I don't know if you know,
but it flips around.

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So if you crack that,
you can pop the times on.

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Okay?

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yeah. Okay.

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And then

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you can actually take the base
and then just flip it so that it's like,

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instead of being like, a salon,
I just, like, flips around

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and you can see it.

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Yeah, it should. Yeah.

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And then basically that's
how you do your toes.

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So if you want.

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More, I'm going to.

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Do this right. Now.

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I'm like literally
about to get on the flight

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and I've been rehabbing
my toes for months now,

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but I was like, man, I'm
going to be maybe in sunny weather.

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yeah.

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So this
is how you so some people don't know that.

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It's very funny

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because we have some customers who like,
shove their toes into the hole.

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I'm like, No,
turn it around. It's a magnet.

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And then when you push the button,

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you have all that space
to put your foot under there. God.

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And so you're on them.

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But your.

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Yeah, but you're like on the floor,
you're on the sofa,

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you know, you just have extra space
because your toes are small.

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I actually have two toes at a time.

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So that just because you
terms are tiny, right?

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You just like paint to layer
paint two toes sticking under there.

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30 seconds.

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Do again, you know, do your big toe bite.

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So I was thinking about this
and I was like,

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my gosh, it's not even my big toe.

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That would be hard to get in.

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It's that little janky one
that has like the

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I don't know about mine is like that
little, like, little nub.

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The sad thing. Yeah, that would be. Wow.

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So any other tips that we have like
you know in terms of

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I mean I think that this

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is like a game changer and it's no wonder
that your brand has taken off

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and has become so popular because there is
no I've never seen anything like this

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that makes on the go either DIY
total or touch

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ups so accessible.

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Is there any other tips that you have
for people

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who may be trying this for the first time?

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Yeah, I think so.

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Gel polish is super thick
and it's much thicker than regular

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nail polish, so the application
technique is very different.

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So I think just you have to have
a slightly different mindset

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to I would say the most important tips
I recommend is make sure

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when you are prepping your nail,
you're going to want to file the surface.

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That's what they do at the salon

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because you're roughing up the surface
a bit for that gel right here.

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But then you're going to want

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to cleanse the surface as well
and remove all the oils,

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because if your nails are a bit oily,
it's easier for the gel to peel off.

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Okay.

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So just,

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you know, either use alcohol to cleanse it
or we have like manicure pads

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that we sell for,
like they're kind of like these like

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little small campaign pads,
but just cleanse it.

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But normal alcohol works.

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Then when you're ready to apply,
the polish is very thick.

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So when you open the bottle,
you will want to swipe the brush.

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Yeah, this is great. I love this shot.

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We showed this in a lot of tutorials.

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Swipe the brush a lot, get everything off
and when you paint that first coat,

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your brush is going to be
almost transparent.

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You're going to cover the nail,
but it's going to look almost transparent.

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Okay, So you don't want to paint it
like nail polish

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because I think the intent
usually with regular polish is

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you go for full coverage, right,
Because it's air drying pretty quickly.

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Gel doesn't dry at all
until you go under the light.

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It is staying liquid, which I love
because it's

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actually much easier to work with
because if you're new to it,

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you just want to do that
very transparent and layer.

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You care for 30.

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You can go a little bit like with a little
thicker layer, just cover it.

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But if it it's like retracting a bit,
just go over it, right?

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So you can go over it and over it.

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It's perfect and then you cure.

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So that's what I really like about Gel

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is that you can take your time
and you can get good with it.

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You're not pressed for time
because of the whole

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air dry thing
that regular nail polish does.

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So when we're doing this,
do you dry in between coats?

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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So you're going to work finger by finger.

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So that is a one finger layup
and then you're going to paint one,

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cure it, repeat cure.

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Then you move on to the next finger.

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Some people paint all four fingers and
then they're like curing, hearing, curing.

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And I say, don't do that
because the best application is

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as soon as you paint,
you want to reduce your air time

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because it'll shrink a little bit.

464
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,040
Like once that gel retract a little bit

465
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,320
because the base like you're
not doing a separate base

466
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,240
because usually when you're in the salon,
they do a separate base coat.

467
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,240
When they do the color,
it's it's all sticky.

468
00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,720
So then it's not retracting.

469
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,840
But one step gel will shrink a little bit.

470
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,360
So you want to work.

471
00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:07,080
Once you've got it covered,
go into the lamp, then you cure

472
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,520
and then you repeat.

473
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,120
I also would say, you know,
people always ask me like,

474
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,760
but doesn't it take ages
because you're doing one finger at a time?

475
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,480
And so what I tell them is actually
because it's a three in one, right.

476
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,160
You're not doing separate base
color talk, right.

477
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,080
Like you're doing your color twice.

478
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,680
But if you had to do all those other
layers,

479
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,480
you are actually having
to paint multiple layers.

480
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,320
So it does though
I would say it takes 15 to 20 minutes.

481
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:34,920
You know,

482
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,680
I would allow for a little bit more time
when it's your first time

483
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,560
and it probably takes

484
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,400
like one or two times to get it really
right, Like you get more of it.

485
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,240
But I mean, definitely go very thin.

486
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:50,080
And usually when I show people, like when
I paint it, it looks almost transparent.

487
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,560
But yeah, there's coverage
that's the effect you want.

488
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,400
And so that's just the first coat
and then the second coat will give you

489
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,400
that kind of full coverage that you want.

490
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,560
And if not, you said
you could do up to a third coat.

491
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:03,560
You can do a third coat.

492
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,000
So if you're doing more like sheer
or light color,

493
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,400
like a pale pink, a third coat is good.

494
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,840
If you want more of that color, payoff,
the darker colors, the brighter colors.

495
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,480
We just do too normally.

496
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:21,160
So that pink, that bright pink,
that you got too is good, you know?

497
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:21,760
Yeah.

498
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,080
And then, you know,
it's not sticky when you're done.

499
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,640
So usually in the salon,

500
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,640
you know how they're like wiping it down
and cleansing it after the top coat.

501
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,720
So ah, once that gel isn't as sticky, once
it's dry, you're good to go.

502
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,000
This is such a game changer.

503
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,920
Now, if people want to order this,
well, I'd be sorry.

504
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,560
Let's talk about the pricing of this.

505
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,520
So this came.

506
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:51,240
This mini lamp came in a beautiful kit
with your charger

507
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,960
with this, and this one came
with the pearlescent color.

508
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,880
So what is the price point for that?

509
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,920
So the mini jump out here kit is $38.

510
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,880
That coalescence kit
has been our best seller all year.

511
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,400
It's that glazed donut,
very glaze nail effect.

512
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,480
And the pearlescent is great
because it can be worn alone for that

513
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,800
very sheer hollow look,
but it can be layered over a color.

514
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,280
Yeah, and a bit of a hollow over that.

515
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,040
So yeah.

516
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,560
This is what I'm going to do
right here. This.

517
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,960
Just to top it up,

518
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,840
can we just say $38 is less than one

519
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,840
single gel manicure?

520
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:31,280
That's.

521
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,400
I think we did like, a calculation.

522
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,800
Like if you did your mani every I don't
know if was like every week or two weeks.

523
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,680
It's like a dollar 30 a manny,
you know, something like that for a year.

524
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,080
So it's crazy.

525
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,800
That is. I mean, that's insane.

526
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,640
And if people want to know
more about this, I was on your blog.

527
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,400
You've got so many great tips
and tutorials on how to use this

528
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:54,880
other

529
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,960
awesome topics specifically for nail care.

530
00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:02,360
If people want to know more about this,
where's the best place for them to go?

531
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,480
So we're on Instagram Le Mini Macaron
and our website is leminimacaron.com,

532
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,760
and you can find the products
also at select Target at Ulta.

533
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,480
So just look around were around.

534
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,200
Amazing and you know before I let you go
and I hate to put you on the spot here

535
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,800
is there like a special color
that you love or are there

536
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:28,120
any other cool nail trends
that you're seeing now in 2024?

537
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:28,560
okay.

538
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,400
So every time it's the new year,
we always say New Year, new nails

539
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,520
our team
every year. That's a rallying cry.

540
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,120
And I do feel that
in the early parts of the year,

541
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:42,800
like the first few months,
people kind of go back to basics, right?

542
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,040
So sheers, last year
we launched our new Sheer’s collection.

543
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,400
It's so, well, creamy
colors, pale pink, milky.

544
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,000
I mean, you've heard about the milk, nails
everywhere.

545
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,480
I think that's really around this day.

546
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,320
It's just so, so universal, so popular.

547
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,440
I love that.

548
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,480
Christina, I want to thank you so much
for being with us.

549
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,800
I mean, I'm
going to thank you for everybody listening

550
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,280
who has ever had their nails done

551
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,080
because this kit seems like
it's an absolute game changer.

552
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,880
I'm going to make sure

553
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,360
when I do this for the first time,
I will put it up on social

554
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:18,360
so that everybody can see
how easy it is to use.

555
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,840
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

556
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,520
thank you so much, Amber.

557
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,480
And enjoy that cover tonight for me.

558
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,680
And of course, if you at home listening
have some questions

559
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,200
you want me to pass on to Christina
or her team, I'm always happy to do so.

560
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,280
You can email me at Hello at Art
Beauty podcast dot com.

561
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,960
You can find us on social media,
Instagram, YouTube,

562
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,280
@ArtBeautyPodcast And as always,
we will see you next Tuesday,

563
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:54,560
hopefully with some banging nails by

564
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,000
right.