1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,120 This is the Art Beauty podcast, where we are 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:04,920 always reaching for truth in beauty. 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:06,960 Remember, the brands on the show are not paying to be here. 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,200 So we get to ask them candid questions because you deserve to be informed 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,200 so you can make the best choices for yourself. 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,280 I am today. 7 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,800 My fabulous co-host is Dr. 8 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,720 Loretta Ciraldo She is a board certified dermatologist and practicing 9 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,720 for over 40 years has an incredible background we're going to talk all about. 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,200 And she is also the founder of Dr. 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,160 Loretta Skincare. It is such an honor to have you on today. 12 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,920 I'm going to call you Dr. Loretta through this. 13 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,600 Welcome to the show. 14 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,120 Thank you so much, Amber. 15 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,240 It's a pleasure to be here. 16 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,080 So I have to say, when I was researching your background, 17 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,960 I mean, you have such an incredible history in skincare. 18 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:50,280 I saw that you were actually involved in the development of the Fitzpatrick scale. 19 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,280 Is that correct? 20 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,640 Yes, absolutely. 21 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,680 That is insane. 22 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,920 And then you also opened one of the first and please correct if I'm wrong, cosmetic 23 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,520 dermatology clinics. 24 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,760 Yeah, well, that was a teaching clinic at University of Miami. 25 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,160 We think maybe it was the first one in the whole country. 26 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,800 So can you just give us a little bit of your background there? 27 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,080 Yes, because I think that it really will give such a sort of 28 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:24,600 like historical perspective on how short a time we really understand 29 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,240 sun damage and external factors and all this. 30 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,480 So I was in medical school in New York in the 1970s, 31 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:38,040 and after my first year of medical school in 1975, I got a summer research 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,880 job at up at Harvard Medical School in the dermatology department. 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,560 And like most of the very few women 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,800 who were in medical school in the night in the early seventies, 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,280 which I started in 74, most of us sort of entered medical school 36 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,400 thinking that we would be pediatricians or obstetricians. 37 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,800 But I was very interested and this research opportunity. 38 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,240 So I get to the dermatology department not understanding much about dermatology, 39 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,360 and the head of the lab tells me that I'm going to be investigated 40 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:13,040 the effects of the sun's UVA on human skin. 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,480 So I was very interested in this. 42 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,560 And right before we were going to go to lunch at the cafeteria, 43 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,480 he said, you know, we're at a by the way, I'd rather that you don't tell 44 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,360 too many people what I'm doing, because many of the physicians 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,080 in the cafeteria already or you like so sure that not enough 46 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,840 UVA reaches the surface of the earth for it to have an effect on our skin. 47 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,800 Long story short, I think his analysis, the rest of history 48 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:46,120 and when we study the effects of the sun's UVA on human skin 49 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,120 that led to the development of what we call to this day, 50 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,680 broad spectrum sunscreen, 51 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:56,280 so that the FDA requires that all sunscreens now must protect 52 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,920 not only from UVB, which is what they did in the 1970s, 53 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:05,400 but also from UVA as well as UVB that started in the eighties. 54 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,720 Once all the research got done. 55 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:08,400 Amazing. 56 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:09,960 You know, and just here's something great 57 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,960 that I've learned through my if that gets confusing to people, 58 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,560 I like to think of this UVA A are the aging rays, right? 59 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,560 So they're going to go a little bit deeper into the skin, affect the deeper 60 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,160 layers of the skin where UVB are, 61 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,760 they're actually curvier waves, so they go less deep into the skin. 62 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:27,720 But those are the burning. 63 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,080 UVA is aging, UVB burning well. 64 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,640 So UVA only 65 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:36,720 that research was really only being done since the eighties or in the eighties. 66 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,200 I know. Actually in the seventies and eighties. 67 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,320 Yeah, exactly. 68 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,840 Yeah. It was very interesting, actually. 69 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,840 It was really done for the treatment of psoriasis. 70 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,360 So when I got to that lab there, we called the Photo Biology Labs at Harvard. 71 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:57,280 They had already had Westinghouse make up UVA bulbs for the treatment of psoriasis. 72 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,600 And then the question was, instead of doing intense 73 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,000 UVA bulbs, could you actually go under the sun? 74 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,120 And actually, what we did to do the research was we gave people a pill to 75 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,480 make them a little more sensitive to UVA so we could really study the impact. 76 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,960 And yeah, I think that I think that actually 77 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:21,600 that whole background and perspective, I think that leads into 78 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:26,560 some of the things that are now on the forefront of sun protection, 79 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:32,120 like it's been argued, you know, do we need the blue light protection or not? 80 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,760 But I think as we go on, we might get to that discussion today too. 81 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,040 Oh, I would love to. 82 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,680 So okay, so you clearly have done this. 83 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,680 When did you decide to go into practice? 84 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:44,160 Right. 85 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:49,440 So basically what happened was, again, I sort of thought, well, what will I become? 86 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:53,640 And as I went into my third year of medical school, 87 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:55,680 I knew 88 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,680 I actually was already dating one of my classmates 89 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,320 who I was with for 47 years until, unfortunately, his recent sudden death. 90 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,760 But now I was dating my classmate. 91 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:06,760 I wanted to have kids. 92 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,560 We went on to have four, got married and have four kids. 93 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,280 So when I got to obstetrics, I was, Oh, wow. 94 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,640 You know, I don't think I'm going to have time to have a big family. 95 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,560 When I got to pediatrics again, this was the 1970s and there still 96 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,120 we didn't have good medicine for pediatric leukemias. 97 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,200 And so that was sort of very depressing. 98 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,080 And so I said to my husband, You know what? 99 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,640 I am so fascinated with the field of dermatology, 100 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,840 and it could really also afford me this amazing lifestyle, I think. 101 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,720 So I went back to Harvard for my and my fourth year of medical school 102 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,560 and did another big research project because that really 103 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,600 then just sealed the deal for me that I was in love with dermatology. 104 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,600 I love that too, because you were really a pioneer 105 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,720 and you mentioned at the time there were not a lot of women entering the field. 106 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,280 So thank you for sort of breaking through those barriers for us. 107 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,720 So so 108 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,880 you have been practicing dermatology 109 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,880 for over 40 years now, 110 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:15,480 and I do want to talk about this because, you know, 111 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,480 we're going to talk very much in detail about your skincare line, 112 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,320 but your skincare line is all based on 113 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,240 sort of this theory of like the aging theory of exosomes. 114 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,040 So can you explain what Exosome theory is? 115 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,920 Yes. And honestly, I think this is very important 116 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,720 and it doesn't even have anything necessarily to do with my skin color. 117 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,760 And although I picked up on it in formulating. 118 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:44,640 So what I'm going to explain to is, of course I went to do the research 119 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,200 and all of the research 120 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,200 I did during medical school had to do with the effects of the sun. 121 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,760 But then very interestingly, you know, I got married to my husband 122 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,880 during medical school and we decided to stay in New York. 123 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,000 And I ended up doing my training up in the Bronx, New York. 124 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:06,000 This started in my dermatology residency, started in 1979. 125 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:09,080 And believe it or not, you know, women kind of 126 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,080 come a very long way since the 1970s. 127 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,960 So I would say the vast majority of the patients 128 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:22,120 that I saw in my residency, the women did not have driver's licenses, 129 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:27,960 did not have any access to go to the beach or, you know, a pool. 130 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:28,960 Forget it. 131 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,360 And what we, of course, started to do that and do to 132 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,920 this day is when people would come in to see us in the dermatology clinic, 133 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,440 we would do total body exams to look for skin cancer. 134 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,840 And what struck me from the very, very beginning, 135 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:49,200 the first week of my residency, is that when we saw older people 136 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,680 so this would be, let's say, a woman in her seventies 137 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,800 or eighties, and I'm talking to at first getting a little history. 138 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,040 And I see she's very wrinkled 139 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,880 and she's got a lot of age spots, all the unwanted changes of aging. 140 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,840 When I then had a had her put on a gown, said 141 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,840 I could check all of her skin for skin cancer. 142 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,720 I honestly was myself a little bit shocked to realize 143 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,680 that even people who were elderly, who had really advanced aging changes 144 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,840 on their face and their neck and all, when we got to examine the areas 145 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,880 that were not exposed to the elements, gray areas 146 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,680 that were chronically covered by clothing, they always looked decades younger. 147 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,720 Now I'm going to get back to what I said to you, though, 148 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:35,960 that started 149 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,520 to really percolate through dermatology, dermatology, literature, 150 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,400 that it was only exposed skin that was really aging. 151 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,680 And so in the 19 by the late 152 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:53,280 seventies, especially early eighties, we started to use a term that I think 153 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,920 is very popular, not just in dermatology literature, 154 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,520 but in the literature, and it's called photo aging. 155 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:04,320 And basically what that meant was, okay, it's not really 156 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,000 your chronological age that's causing all these unwanted changes, 157 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:13,240 but that term photo, right, like photo biology labs, photons from the sun, 158 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,440 what it meant was all of these unwanted changes were coming from the sun. 159 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:20,560 But remember what I said to Amber. 160 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:24,000 This was a very special population that I had 161 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,840 of all these adorable little old ladies who, like maybe 162 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:33,480 they had come over from Bali or God knows where they didn't have cars. 163 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:39,160 They stayed home ironing their husband's shirts and making the lunch for the kids. 164 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,560 And these women hardly had any sun exposure yet 165 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:48,480 they had all of these hallmarks of such a disparity 166 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,120 between skin that I have to just say was exposed 167 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,600 to the elements, to the external environment. 168 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,840 So at that point I started to sort of 169 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,360 Dell the little bit into, you know, what the heck is going on. 170 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:05,000 Right. 171 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,280 Of course, we know, you know, a single sunburn 172 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,280 can cause a lot of skin damage and all of this. 173 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,320 But there must have been other factors. 174 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,160 This was sort of what I started to believe, you 175 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,400 know, many, many years ago and has time has gone on. 176 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,200 There was more and more research 177 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,000 that, for instance, looks at the effects of pollution. 178 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,200 Right now, what we now realize is that pollutants 179 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,280 and you've probably heard about this and in fact, if you're listening in, 180 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,800 if you haven't heard about this thing called particulate matter, 181 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,560 all you really have to do, especially if you look up a state 182 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:49,800 like Massachusetts or upstate New York, where we have really 183 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,000 right now from Canadian fires, a lot of particulate matter 184 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,000 that's causing very unhealthy air quality conditions. 185 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:58,360 Yeah. 186 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,120 Or particulate matter or these little pollution particles 187 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,240 that happen to be at least 188 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,240 20 times smaller than our skin pores. 189 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,240 So this particles that matter gets right 190 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,440 into our skin, enters the wearer pores, but doesn't just stay in our pores. 191 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,520 And there is good research to show that particulate matter 192 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,640 is a major cause of what 193 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,640 we call age spots hyperpigmentation 194 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,800 and collagen breakdown and lines and wrinkles. 195 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,320 So, you know, and then to add to this and this is not mentioned, 196 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,120 all I'm going to sort of like suggest the what 197 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,440 or expose the problem, but I'm going to suggest generically solutions. 198 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:43,200 Okay. Okay. 199 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,840 So the thing is that it may be a little scary. 200 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,920 And one more scary fact to tell you is that the EPA, 201 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,480 the Environmental Protection Agency, tells us that many pollutants 202 00:11:54,840 --> 00:12:00,240 or up to 1000 times more concentrated in their homes 203 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:05,600 than they are outdoors, A good big factor is dust mites. 204 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,800 They carry a tremendous amount of particulate matter, 205 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,960 and the particulate matter can even come just from paint residue on our walls. 206 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,520 When we turn on a gas stove, we release a lot of 207 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,680 free radicals, damage, particulate matter, all of this. 208 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:23,480 So that is the bad that that, 209 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,480 you know, we need to be protecting ourselves 210 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,240 not just from the sun and not just when we're outside from pollution, 211 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,560 but 24 seven Now, clothing is a great way 212 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:37,560 to protect ourselves, but what else can we do? 213 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,440 And high accidents. Yes, right. 214 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,720 That is so important. 215 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,280 So for everybody who's listening in and this isn't 216 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,400 about buying a particular brand, this is about please just be sure. 217 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:55,640 Go through what so many of us women have, which may be, you know, ten moisturizers 218 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,520 or ten serums that you've got building up on your bathroom counter 219 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,400 and medicine cabinet and see, have you got some vitamin C? 220 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,800 Have you got, you know, things like this and antioxidants, C 221 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,120 is anything labeled antioxidant moisturizer, antioxidant serum, 222 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,080 because antioxidants are really our best way to combat 223 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,400 the free radical damage of pollution, but also the sun. 224 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,760 So that's another thing. 225 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,560 Many of the good sunscreens on the market today, including the ones that we make 226 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,040 combined regular sunscreen actives 227 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,440 with antioxidants to produce to really, 228 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,960 really like just elevate the protection. 229 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:38,880 You know, I'm so glad you're putting that 230 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,520 because years of working in beauty, I knew this. 231 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:42,440 It comes off the tongue. 232 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:43,960 Antioxidants are going to protect 233 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,960 protect your skin from oxidation, from the free radicals. 234 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,760 But but you never really think about, well, what does it actually mean? 235 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,680 What's causing these free radicals? 236 00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:55,200 I mean, things just like you said, cooking in your house, right? 237 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,200 If something starts to smoke, you're starting to release that. 238 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,520 Do you suggest then? 239 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,400 You know, I think so many of us probably have 240 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,720 some sort of an antioxidant for the face. 241 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:07,800 But do you think it's important 242 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,800 then to be slathering that all over the entire body? 243 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,920 Well, so the point is this. 244 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,080 Our clothing is a one protective shield. 245 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:16,680 Okay? 246 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:20,160 So therefore, we don't necessarily need that. 247 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,520 And so we sort of started this conversation 248 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,920 with what's called the X expose arm theory, right. 249 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,080 The exposure of aging. 250 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:34,800 There's the skin exposed, which is pollution actually irritants, 251 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,560 things that we're exposing ourselves to on areas that aren't covered. 252 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:40,200 Okay. 253 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,240 But like, for example, right now, I mean. 254 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,680 Exactly. So, yes. 255 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,960 So what I would say is in the summertime, it is a very good idea 256 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,200 to use some products that are going to give you protection 257 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:58,560 like a serum or a body lotion that would have antioxidants in it. 258 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,120 Absolutely. 259 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,560 Good to know. 260 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:02,200 And keep in mind, 261 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,320 everybody with those vitamin C creams, once they start to go brown, 262 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,520 they're not going to be as effective as we want them to be. 263 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,000 But that is a story for another time. 264 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,760 So, okay, so we've got this idea that exposure really is showing us 265 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,360 or that you're seeing that that people who even weren't in the sun 266 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,600 are having these signs of aging. 267 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:22,960 Do you happen to know 268 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,640 we've had some people on the podcast before and these numbers 269 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:31,680 kind of get thrown around, But I heard once that 90% of visible aging is from UV. 270 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,800 But you're saying that that's not necessarily. 271 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,720 Absolutely. That is not true. 272 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:41,200 And I'll tell you that there is this study was actually done 273 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,400 by a group that worked at Rock Pharmacy to called Juno RC. 274 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,320 And what it did was it measured wrinkle index. 275 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:50,000 Right? 276 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,320 And they looked at people in different states. 277 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,360 And lo and behold, 278 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,880 it turns out that New Yorkers have more wrinkled spent Floridians. 279 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,080 And the idea there was that it's 280 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,440 really secondary to pollution, not to the sun. 281 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,720 So I think really where we need to sort of realign 282 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:14,280 our thinking is for almost all of us, we have very little sun 283 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:20,600 exposure every day, but we have pollution exposure 24/7. 284 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:26,720 And so, you know, I think that, you know, besides skin care, I think having good 285 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,120 air filters in our home is a very important thing. 286 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,440 If you're lucky enough to have central air conditioning, 287 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,400 clean your air conditioning filters because they're collecting 288 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,480 all of this particulate matter. 289 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,800 And so really, you know, a lot of advice is depending 290 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,960 on the filter, you get changing it every month or two. 291 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,160 I'm literally like mentally thinking right after this, I'm buying 292 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,160 a because I live in New York City right now. 293 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,840 I'm thinking immediately, I'm buying an air purifier. 294 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,920 I do clean air filters and my AC is. But 295 00:16:59,040 --> 00:16:59,960 yeah. 296 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:02,840 I'm trying to tell you for this recording 297 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:07,440 I have my air purifier off because the fan is a little bit loud. 298 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,640 But yes, absolutely. 299 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,200 You know, this is something I really do. 300 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,440 I actually want to backtrack 301 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,880 for one minute because even let's say when we talk about some protection, 302 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:23,440 I think that we mostly get marketed to to think about sunscreen. 303 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:29,000 But we dermatologists say protection from Sun has got to be three pronged. 304 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:32,160 Yes, the use of sunscreen for sure. 305 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,680 The other thing is use of sun protective clothing, 306 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:41,160 especially when you think about areas like hair back and all sorts of areas 307 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,080 where you can just miss the really even application of sunscreen. 308 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,840 Sunscreen should be applied every 2 hours. 309 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,240 I'm a grandmother and I can tell you that when I go to my grandkids 310 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,720 birthday parties, if they have a pool party, 311 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,600 all of the little children, 90% of them are now 312 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,760 showing up with bathing suits that are long sleeved. 313 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:00,200 Okay. 314 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,800 So remember, the three pronged approach for the sun protection is sunscreen, 315 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,040 SPF clothing, which is called UPF. 316 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,320 But the third thing, which I think is also so important, is 317 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,160 just try not to be under the direct sun 318 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:20,320 between the peak hours of UV radiation from 10 a.m. 319 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,760 to 2 p.m. 320 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:22,280 And so 321 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,040 that's going to be sort of the same thing when we talk about pollution, right? 322 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,560 So indoor pollution is bad, right? 323 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,080 I'm going to give you a few tips. You know, get the air filter. 324 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,880 The other big thing is, you know, dust mites are awful. 325 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,040 And sun the one thing I'm allergic to. 326 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,280 Yeah, sorry, I know. That. So I went to hide. 327 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:45,160 They collect also on our pillowcase and stuff and the best detergent 328 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:51,000 to actually get rid of the most dust mites possible is the all-bran and all. 329 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:51,320 Yeah. 330 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,160 And it's a liquid called all three clear. 331 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,200 And it's even much better. 332 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,680 Great that we used. Yay! 333 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,280 Okay, excellent. Right. 334 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,840 And try to wash your pillow case every two or three days so that you're not rub. 335 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,200 You know, a lot of times we think about, okay, 336 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,880 before we go to sleep at night, let's put on our products. 337 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,640 But then if we do that and then we rub air, pillowcase our face 338 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,360 into our pillowcase and we haven't changed it or washed it for a week 339 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,560 and we're just rubbing in those dust mites, you know, that's one. 340 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,640 So it's a very we got to have a holistic approach. 341 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,760 I'm glad that this is a video, too, because I can tell you 342 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,800 I have done very little to my face. 343 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,680 I myself have injected myself with filler here, 344 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,080 but I've never had laser or any kind of surgery. 345 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,320 And I'm 70 years old. 346 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,600 I was going to say, you look amazing thing. 347 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,600 Yeah. 348 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,320 But, you know, following this advice, you know, as they say, I don't just 349 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,680 talk the talk. I absolutely walk the walk. 350 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,080 And I think that it's a good thing to try to heed some advice 351 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,880 from a 70 year old who has stayed useful, because I know for a fact 352 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,800 that if we protect ourselves, even sort of taking that 353 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,440 holistic approach, protect yourself from the sun, 354 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,640 a three pronged approach from pollution with the right laundry detergent, 355 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,480 the air filters, all this kind of thing, and then antioxidants. 356 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,920 I mean, this is phenomenal advice. 357 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,040 And I mean, you are looking at you. 358 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,240 You're convincing me, like I said, air filter. 359 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,240 I also have dust mite pillowcases. 360 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,280 So those are something that you can look into. 361 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,360 And if you've got a mattress, you can get dust mites. 362 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:27,960 If you have real severe asthma. 363 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,400 You're right. Yes. Yes. 364 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,440 And in fact, I think you mentioned that you're allergic 365 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,320 to dust mites and allergies are very big on that. 366 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,320 And yeah, I think that's very good advice. 367 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,720 And then, you know, those Swiffer makes those little dust things. 368 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,000 Those things are great. 369 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,400 I go over them, my house, like every every year, 370 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,840 and I'm going to say two or three days 371 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,720 when you start to see the dust settle, literally. 372 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,880 But it's a great way to pick stuff up. 373 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,760 And I love that you gave us all all free and clear. 374 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,280 I feel like offering clear is just great for so many reasons 375 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,200 because you don't as much as it's nice to have the clothes that smell great 376 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,440 and all those extra unneeded fragrances and chemicals in your body. 377 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,120 Not the best. 378 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:07,800 Thank you. Yes, because that's another thing. 379 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,200 Okay. 380 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,720 Artificial fragrance is another thing that, you know, 381 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,320 artificial fragrance, very common to get sensitive to, 382 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,440 not even to say allergic to, but to get sensitive to. 383 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,920 Once you sensitize your skin, believe it or not, 384 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,640 you get a little bit of what we always call subclinical inflammation. 385 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,640 It's not like you're really going to look red or feel it, 386 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,280 but much or most artificial fragrance at some level 387 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,520 is going to just inflame everybody in a not very obvious way. 388 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,880 And believe it or not, that kind of inflammation 389 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,920 sets off enzymes that break down collagen. 390 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,080 So also exposure to things. 391 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,840 And so sometimes it's very sort of like innocent exposure. 392 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,880 We sure, like you're saying, with detergents, that kind of fragrance. 393 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,400 But also and this is also I want all of your listeners 394 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,960 to think about too many of I know my own patients will come in to me 395 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,040 and they or irritating their skin because they 396 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,800 really believe in that whole sort of, you know, no guts, no glory. 397 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,520 So, okay, I'm going to use the strongest retinoic acid 398 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,320 I can find and I'm going to I'm going to want to turn red and peel. 399 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,000 Please don't do that, 400 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,680 because once you've done that, you're deaf, innately activating enzymes 401 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,680 that are going to break down your collagen and everything. 402 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:29,280 Yeah. You know, I have a love hate with retinol. 403 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,840 I used to be able to tolerate it. 404 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,880 And now that I'm in my forties, my body just doesn't as much. 405 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,160 So lower version sometimes. 406 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,240 But you know, I used to use a .05 percent and I just it's not working. 407 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,560 And there's so many other great exfoliators on the market that I found 408 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,760 because I know retinol is really it is a gold standard, it is a phenomenal product. 409 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,160 But, you know, it's just not for. 410 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,600 Everyone, not for not for everyone. 411 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,040 And also not at the same times. 412 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:58,280 You know, 413 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,480 sometimes I think as your hormones are shifting like something 414 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,480 that might have worked for you then, might not now, and who knows, 415 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,600 it might again someday. 416 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,520 Dr. Laura, you are, first of all, so amazing. 417 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,720 I could talk to you all day. 418 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,560 It is clear that you live and love skincare. 419 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,160 I mean, you went. 420 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,160 You chose the right field, Mom, I got to tell you. 421 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,480 So I do want you to address your skincare line, 422 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,200 because one of the things I was really impressed, 423 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,720 you know, we're hearing this trend as a beauty editor. 424 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:30,080 I feel like I've got a thousand products and I don't mind having, 425 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,040 you know, the occasion all night where I'm going to do a 12 step routine. 426 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,520 But but mostly it's like wash my face, throw on a serum 427 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,800 moisturizer, get to bed or an SPF in the day. 428 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,160 And I really was drawn to your line because there's this new trend towards 429 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,600 skin embolism. Right. 430 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,600 Which is skin care minimalism. 431 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,320 And I feel like your your line really kind of embraces that theory. 432 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,840 Can you tell us a little bit about that and why you went that way. 433 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,440 To do so? 434 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,440 Because after it's actually now 41 years that I'm a board certified dermatologist, 435 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,800 and when I'm having new patients come in, we do ask them, please 436 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,960 bring in the products you're using right now. 437 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,960 And it always amaze me, almost without fail, 438 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,520 that a new patient will bring in a shopping bag full of stuff. 439 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,160 Yeah. 440 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,160 And, you know, most of the time I start to lay it out and say, well, 441 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,440 you guys, this one is counteracting this one. 442 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,200 And do you turn red and purely? Oh, yes, I do. 443 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,200 And so one of my goals in creating my line 444 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,240 was to really make products that would multi task. 445 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,640 So I'll walk you through 446 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,320 sort of like a few of our products that are just almost like a baseline. 447 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:36,600 Okay. 448 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,600 And how they get back to protection from those external aggressors, 449 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,200 the exposition theory. Okay. 450 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,280 So our gentle hydrating cleanser, super 451 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:51,320 hydrating and gentle are beautiful and yes, and remember 452 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,840 I said, I want to really protect you from pollution. 453 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,160 So that's God in it. 454 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,120 A brown algae that actually absorbs pollution particles 455 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:03,960 from the surface of their skin before they get into the living layers. 456 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,120 You wash with it, you leave it on for about 2 minutes. 457 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:09,760 So brush your teeth while you got on, wash it off 458 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,520 and you've got great anti-pollution protection. 459 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,080 I'm a big believer in doing it morning and night. Why? 460 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,320 There's a lot been written recently. 461 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,880 Oh, you don't have to wash in the morning, are you kidding me? 462 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,880 After you slept all night with all of that 463 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,360 exposure to the dust mites, it's super important to walk in the morning. 464 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,960 So that's a morning and night. 465 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,440 And so you're supposed to wait. 466 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,360 You're supposed to also leave it on for 2 minutes. 467 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:37,080 I've never heard that because I was using it and I would wash, you know, rub it in. 468 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,200 And I will say it's nice because the beautiful gel, but it foams 469 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,120 it has a nice light foam, so it gives you that kind of foaming, 470 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:47,560 I'm cleaning my face, I am guilty. 471 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,000 I do not wash my face. 472 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,640 And then when I rinse it. 473 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,280 But I guess with water. 474 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,120 But I guess now I need to 475 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,360 soap. 476 00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:57,640 Okay. 477 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,400 Yes. Well, that especially because a regular cleanser isn't necessarily good. 478 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,200 And get rid of the dust mites. 479 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,600 God, I think we put that in there because it gets rid of the PM 480 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,680 that particulate matter I was telling you that gets carried by the dust mites. 481 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,360 So please do that 482 00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:16,360 and usually get rid of your eye makeup with that. 483 00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:18,040 So I want you to put on your eyelids 484 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,480 because I want you to have that good protection After that. 485 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,960 I do have to tell you, we're very proud that we won the award for Best of Beauty 486 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,720 with our eye gel as the best anti pop product. 487 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,520 And that is a product where I'm introducing, which we have a number 488 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,880 of the price of our sunscreen there, too, an antioxidant called lipo chromium. 489 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,520 And what I'm going to tell you about why people comment on one assay 490 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,840 for strength, it's the strongest antioxidant that exists. 491 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,320 It is synthetic. 492 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,640 It was made originally for medical use for cancer patients. 493 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,040 It's still used in some regimens for cancer patients, 494 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,720 but it's the only antioxidant that will not only get rid of oxygen 495 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,760 free radicals, which, you know, they destroy the lipid layer, 496 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,640 the top layer of our skin, but it gets rid of carbon and nitrogen free radicals 497 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,760 which destroy our college and our elastin 498 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,760 and our high ironic content of our skin. 499 00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:15,760 So I think it's very important to look for that light, grow them in. 500 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,680 And it's a big featured product, an ingredient that we have in our stuff. 501 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,080 I want to talk to you about our serums, and I'm not sure which one you got there. 502 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,720 So I have the intense repair and I get to try the 503 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:31,800 the eye cream, but it also has a deep thing as well. 504 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,440 Yes. Which is. Great. Okay. 505 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:36,600 So now can. 506 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,160 You use it? 507 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,960 Can you use it above and below it? Yes. 508 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,920 It's amazing. 509 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:41,840 Grease around. 510 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,560 It's called the tightening gel. 511 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,280 Now, the intense replenishing. 512 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,160 That's our serum that's got that light but chrome. 513 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,680 And again, the only antioxidant that's going to protect your college 514 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,440 in your elastin, your high, your onyx, all of that from free radical damage. 515 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,440 None of the other antioxidants do it. 516 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,280 And you can see it gives you this immediate glow. 517 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,560 Yeah, it really is. 518 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,040 But it feels so lightweight and beautiful on the skin. 519 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,360 I mean. 520 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,280 Yes, I love it. 521 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,960 You know, at 70, you can imagine that I live. 522 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:14,880 You want. Yes. 523 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,120 All of a sudden it funny somebody came on once and they were like, 524 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,840 you know, in your twenties and maybe early thirties, you want it all. 525 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,200 Matt, Matt, Matt, because your skin is hydrated and plumping, glowy. 526 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,000 And then when you start to get into your forties 527 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,640 plus you're like, Oh my God, give me all the glow back because my skin is not. 528 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,080 Yeah, so I'm with you. I'm with you on that one. 529 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,080 Yeah, it's beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. 530 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,680 And then our sunscreen and so our sunscreens got that again, 531 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,560 the light chromium. 532 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,480 But I am also and I've got to put a plug in for this I'm 533 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,280 a 1,000,000% believer in a sunscreen needing 534 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,120 to protect us from that HIV visible blue light. 535 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:54,880 I'm glad we. 536 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,200 Okay, we're coming full circle to this 537 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,400 because I was going to ask you what you think on that. 538 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,440 Yes. So, you know, let me just say this to you. 539 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,520 Ophthalmologists will tell you and they've said this for decades, 540 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,840 that HIV blue light, high intensity, 541 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,480 visible light wrecks our retina. 542 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,680 So anybody who's wearing contacts or prescription 543 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,120 lenses has a filter for blue light. 544 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,200 I, I really take issue 545 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,680 with people on social media saying, oh, blue light can hurt the skin. 546 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,680 If it hurts your retina, trust me, it can hurt your skin. 547 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,560 And the point is that we really do need that protection. 548 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:34,280 Okay. 549 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,160 So this is just an extra thing that we have thrown into our sunscreens. 550 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,240 We actually make two sunscreens, but they both have that similar tint 551 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,360 and they have the white bow chrome and they have great firming peptides, 552 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,320 great moisturizers. 553 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,760 I think you can see your skin almost really looks. 554 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,920 Nice like it does, and it has like a little bit of coverage too, 555 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,920 because you don't see the blue in my in my veins as much. 556 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,120 Yes it is. 557 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,960 Side is really. 558 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,200 Automatically look nicer we. Think beautiful. 559 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,200 It is a view I mean this is the one that I was like, 560 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,920 oh my gosh, this is a beautiful it has just that right amount of glow. 561 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,400 And then you also have an enzyme polish. 562 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,320 So again, 563 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,920 was there like a total of six total products. 564 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,640 So there's like one or two choices for each except for the Ikiru. 565 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:19,280 Am I right? 566 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,160 Actually, we have I think now we are definitely up 567 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:28,200 to 12 products because just like you said, we've got two different cleansers. 568 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,240 We also have an exfoliating cleanser. 569 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,760 We have two different sunscreens, mineral only and one that's called 570 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,760 the hybrid with the zinc and chemicals in it. 571 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,080 We have three different serums 572 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,880 because we know that it's not necessarily 573 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,800 one size fits all, but my whole ethos, I protecting you 574 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,640 from all the environmental aggressors, it's in every formula we make. 575 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,640 But and I don't expect you to be using 12 products. 576 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,440 Well, you know, and forgive me what I'm saying, but I think it's like 577 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,200 a very minimal like it's six total steps, not products that we've gotten. 578 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,080 So when you go to shop your site, it's very, very easy because it's like here's 579 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,760 you know, choose a cleanser, choose your exfoliator whether it's a pad 580 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,800 or this, choose your sunscreen, choose your serum, eye cream. 581 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:19,840 SPF Yes, and we really try to be educational on this site. 582 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:20,280 Yeah. 583 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,680 I invite all the listeners go to it to really learn more because, 584 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,000 you know, our skin, we are the owners of our skin. 585 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,680 And it's so important for us to educate ourselves. 586 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,960 And my message is you can stay self-confident 587 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,040 or become self-confident about your appearance at any age. 588 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,480 And I feel I'm living proof of that after seven decades of life. 589 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,080 I mean, you are gorgeous inside and out. 590 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,120 I absolutely love having you on here. And Dr. 591 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,200 Lauretta, I have to say to everybody listening, take a look at some of the 592 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,640 she's got great before and after is of real people skin 593 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,120 from their face to their lower back. 594 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,320 So we're talking about this. 595 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:03,240 If you're not quite convinced yet about how exposure and exosome 596 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,200 aging works, definitely check that out. 597 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,800 Dr. Lauretta If people want to know more about your products, 598 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,000 if they want to learn more about you, 599 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,760 see you and your beautiful daughters, where should they go? 600 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,720 Yeah, so and I do do this line with my two wonderful daughters, 601 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,960 so go right to drloretta dot com. Dr. 602 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,760 Loretta dot com and also on social we're on at Dr. 603 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,360 Loretta. Thank you. 604 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,400 And I have one at Dr. 605 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,320 Loretta Derm but I do a lot of social reals on ADD. Dr. 606 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,480 Loretta We're here to educate you and share 607 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,680 and the joy of feeling good about ourselves. 608 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,880 And how you know, before I let you go, where where are you practicing? 609 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,640 Where's your where are your offices? And right outside? 610 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,160 Well, as in part of Miami, I'm in Miami, Florida. 611 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,880 Can't wait to move there. It's not in it for me. 612 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,560 It's just a one. 613 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,400 I want to thank you so much for being with us today. 614 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,160 And of course, everybody listening at home. 615 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,880 If you have questions, you want to pass on to me 616 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,400 or ask me about the products I've tried, 617 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,480 you can always email me at hello at art beauty podcast dot com. 618 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,760 You can find us on Facebook, Instagram and YouTube at art beauty podcast. 619 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,640 Thank you so much. Dr. 620 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,560 Loretta really loved having you. 621 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,560 And to everybody else, we will see you next Tuesday, 622 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,720 hopefully a little bit more protected finally. 623 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,800 Thank you. Bye bye. 624 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:34,800 All right.