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I'm your host, Joe Scales, and
it's been tough readjust the East Coast time.
I didn't think it would be, but
I've been awake at night and tired in
the morning
every day this week.
Hopefully, this weekend we'll... Help me get the
schedule straightened back out.
I also plan on taking a lot of
time this weekend to play in the Ante
up series on Rad Poker. So if you
haven't already joined the site, be sure to
do that, I'd love to play with some
of you guys.
There have been some on the...
App where it's been difficult to get people
on the site at the same time,
which is what this is all about. We
wanna get a bunch of people signed up
so that no matter when we log on,
we can find a game.
There's a link in the show description. So
join me there.
I know I mentioned this a while back,
but
the tip to scale segment really is coming.
I probably jumped the gun a little bit
and announcing it when I did because I
still had a lot of work to do
for the segment.
But I was hoping to, you know, get
you guys involved and get you sending in
some some topics to talk about. Which you
did, and I'm I'm grateful for that.
1 thing I've learned from doing this
is that it
helps keep me accountable. Right?
And I need that because sometimes
I can get in my own way. And
if something doesn't look exactly the way I
want,
or sound the way I want, it sits
on hold until I get it just right.
Now if you've ever gone back and listen
to the older episodes of me doing this
early on,
it's probably
pretty hard to get through. But
it had to be put out. So I
just had to learn
on the job a little.
And and that's actually
been a common theme for me lately, which
is out of my comfort zone a little
bit.
All of that is to say,
I'm getting that segment ready,
and it'll be coming soon, but it's not
there just yet.
Very soon.
That's all I really have. So
let's get on with the show.
Find out, what conversations are happening around the
poker table.
With table tom.
L and I are,
back around the Poker table.
And it's the opening ceremony of the Olympics.
It is. You're right. Yeah. I'm excited about
watching that tonight. That'll be fun.
Snoop carried in the torch?
Yes. He did. He's not the only 1
to carry the torch, but he's definitely all
over. He was hanging out with the fence
earlier today. Was he? Yeah.
I love his personality, and he... He ran
a time trial. Yeah. I saw that. Remember
He did really well. Yeah. So Snoop is
represent America in all facets all over. Surprisingly,
the man can run. He really can. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
It's it's been really weird since been back.
I mean, first of all,
I'm feeling much better.
Hallelujah yeah.
But
and cleared by 2 different physicians, so I'm
super pleased. Yeah. I I had 2 follow
up appointments and and they have given me
good feedback. So it's good. I apparently need
to cut down on the amount of dairy
that I eat. Who a thought.
It's also odd
being back home
I mean, we were surrounded by Poker
all day every day. Lights and people and
street sounds and noise,
and even just taking the dog out feels
weird. Yeah. So,
however, loves to be back reunited with her,
and I know she's happy we're home. But,
yes, I even found it very
odd just going back to the day to
day.
Yeah. We did have the patreon monthly game
last night and
still a little butt hurt.
Well, first of all, Elliott shaq your joined
us last night, which is awesome. And I
specifically asked not to be at his table
if at all possible. I know that's not
fair. I did put in special request.
It was not... The computer said
Wrong answer. And
Elliott it knocked me out. I finally had
a a decent hand and did not have
great cards
I played some that I should not have
played against
some competitive people that we have. Yeah. And
then
finally got Pocket queens
only to find out
elliott checked head pocket
kings.
Yeah.
Well,
Carmen did bite him though. Yeah. She's a
bit.
Because it wasn't, but maybe a few hands
later,
that he had pocket kings again and ran
them into pocket aces. So,
wow.
I love you, Elliot.
It was it was awesome having him there
just
adding another fun element. I mean, we we
always have a good time.
Congratulations also to Chris, who's Tee Titan,
who took down the 50 dollar prize.
He... Yeah. Way to go dude. Way to
battle. Yeah. It we got down the heads
up, he and I, and it went back
and forth for a while.
Yeah. We didn't have Bob Chopper in the
hand. So we actually had some heads up
action.
It it was interesting to me though, because
we don't usually have people stick around that
long. Like, after they bust out, then they've
got things to do. They're gone... We had
a crew. I guess we were we were
having a good time having some chat and
was in interesting
heads up battle.
And so
a lot of people stuck around. Yeah. That
was that was nice to see. It's a
fun evening. You guys should join us. If
you haven't already signed up for the Patreon
game. It's fun.
10 bucks a month with the possibility of
winning 50.
And cannot go wrong. And honestly, it is
a turbo style. Yeah. Tournament.
It is not a super turbo
or an extra charge turbo or hyper turbo...
Turbo that I hate I found out. That's
why you hear this in my voice. It's
a Turbo tournament. It's fun. It's once to
month.
Come hang
you can turn your camera on and your
mic on, You don't have to turn on
either. You can just come and get some
hands in. It's nice. We enjoy it. Right.
And There's always that possibility even if you
don't win first, we we do have the
bounty,
which Cajun Joe was the bounty this week.
And
he got knocked out by 1 of our
new players,
Pocket quad. Got your name.
He got the 15 dollar bounty.
But that was that was fun. I also
went and played my usual, like, home game.
Yeah. I went and, like, hung out with
the girls. And you wouldn't and played your
home game. Yeah. Which
which also
had a contest
to see who's going on the cruise. Yeah.
So 1 percent to leave urgently, and I
think there's still 3 players that are gonna
play that out. But really cool. Your home
game decided to say, hey, let's pitch in
and extra for 200 bucks,
and
that winner
gets the trip and a plane ticket. Yeah.
And for when I first walked in the
door, like, all of the talk was the
W sop controversy. Oh, I'm sure because we
were front row seat, they were hot and
heavy. Right? Yeah. They wanted to know my
take for sure.
And I just... I wanna make sure that
everybody understands. The controversy is
the laptop, the solve on the rail, Not.
That there was an earpiece into my ear,
like...
That it wasn't true to begin with. I
we watched the whole time we were there
hand. It's been proven over and over and
over and over and over and over and
over in that video that that was not
into My ear. Right. Joe mccann had 1
in his left ear.
I think it was his left year. He
was just taking it out to give the
doo to hug. Yeah. Or fell out or
whatever.
But as far as the...
Laptop or the solve on the rail.
You can make your case for whatever side
you wanna make your case for. Personally,
I I don't wanna see someone using solve.
I mean, basically, it's a... It's it's it's
essentially just
you saying, it wouldn't be any different than
if I pulled out a piece of paper,
and I said,
how should I play in the upcoming position?
You know, pulled out some chart and said,
how should I play in the next position
coming up. So if I'm under the gun,
How should I play the button and you
look on your chart and you say, oh,
I should open these hands.
It it wouldn't be any different than that.
So
that's my take. But... Yeah. But nobody's doing
that. Right. Because it... It's not
legal. That's what you should be studying.
Yeah. And I think as far as laptops
go, there were lots of people on lots
of rails with laptops and phones.
Watching the the hour delay to see what
was going on and and giving their guy
or girl
info,
That's helpful.
Right. It's also an hour later. Right. So
regardless of whether you...
Agree with
having the laptops there or the solve there
or not...
The W sop had made an announcement that
you weren't allowed to use solve.
Or you could be disqualified.
Now,
we'll see what they do for next year.
Yeah. I'm curious or even December. Have an
event coming up in December. They do. They
do and in the Bahamas.
There's also a couple of other topics that
we just flat out,
forgot to mention
after all the chaos of getting.
That's true. That's true. We didn't even talk
about the spear. I had been obsessed with
this sphere.
Year an half.
And we didn't even talk about the fact
that we scored tickets
to the dead and company. We got to
see John Mayer and the dead.
Gl in the sphere in the
sphere. Right. So you finally got to see
the inside of the sphere after talking about
it being built and
it's like the jets ins in there, man.
There's escalators going this way and that way
and the lighting and
I think it was... I thought it was
beautiful venue.
Let me and let me just tell you.
We were not sure what kind of crowd
we were going into. We were not...
Dead heads to begin with. We wanted to
be in this sphere.
The happiest group of people I've ever been
to a concert with.
Yeah. Yeah. They were. For any number of
reasons, but let me tell you, I will
go back to
a dead and company show. Any day over
lots of other concerts that I've attended. Not
1 person pushing in chu, not 1 person
jacking for a position in front of you,
nobody complaining about food or beverages,
nobody complaining about the bathroom line. I think
everybody was just of happy to be there.
And I think it's the venue in
in a lot of ways, but I also
found those fans. I mean, even exiting till
forever and nobody was upset. Right.
It's true. And I will say,
I don't think I've ever seen. Forever 1
person in concert
as many times as the guy that we
talked to,
there were 23 dead shows at the spear.
He saw 22 of them. On 23 to
that date. There were... There's more after that.
Yeah. I mean, it... And
we just talked about logistics and what it
looked like
the experience
unreal. I mean, I don't know that
I'm just gonna be able to go watch
regular live music anymore?
It's definitely gonna be hard. It's definitely gonna
be different. I mean, we... We've talked about
the fact that... You have
musician who are purely
musicians. Right. They they are singers. They are
are writers. They are
performers. Yeah. Right?
Some
musicians you meet are also entertainer. They've kinda
got that duo
going for them. Right. But
you get in the sphere and there's a
whole
another level. Yeah. Like, the sphere does some
of it for you. A hundred percent. Yeah.
So you don't have to be as big
of an entertainer so to speak for it
to be entertaining.
It it it actually. And it makes those
seats. We were up we were up high.
Really high. Which too high.
L is afraid of heights. Yeah. We were
too high. And so let's say it again,
we were too high.
We weren't as high up as you could
get, but we were... We were far.
We were far. You cannot make this better.
Well.
But in that 400 section,
we had just as good a show as
somebody down in the 100 section. A hundred
percent, and we even talked to people who
had bought tickets for 3 days in a
row, We talked to guys who had just
been to the show the night before. They
said this was a whole different show. They
had been in the 200 level. They were
at the 400 level, and, honestly, to... The
guys behind us at the end,
tapped us on the shoulder and said, we
we had 1 of the best nights. Yeah.
And so
we can honestly say that because it was
told to us by other people who'd been
to other shows. I mean, I
I didn't want it to stop. And it
it went on for 3 hours. 3 hours.
Yeah. So
cannot
tell you to run
book a ticket, figure out how to get
there. The eagles are up next. We're already
planning our next trip,
and we're seats are gonna be. Thank you,
mom, for our early Christmas present
because you got us there, and,
we had an
damn good time.
Absolutely. Not I I definitely wanna go back
to to that venue for sure.
Another thing that we didn't talk about,
Was that new room into v venetian? Oh,
I can't wait. We we went we went
to the current room. Yeah. We had a
great conversation with the staff there. Like, it
was it
super
great group that works there. Yeah. But... And
it was super busy. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, that's 1 thing that the W
sop does is. It filters out to the
other other rooms for sure. But their... The
venetian is busy
quite often. But this new room
opens on August first.
And
they have so many things planned.
Like,
above the felt... Our friends and above the
felt are gonna be back there. We really
wish we could have,
made the trip back out. It was just
not able to this quickly. So... Yeah.
Yeah.
They... Before before that, though, they they actually
have a goodbye to the old room, which
is gonna be fun. Oh, that's neat. Yeah.
Cocktails dessert. Gather. Yeah. So of course, poker.
Right. But but, yeah. Then then on August
first, yeah. Like you said, our our friends
at above the belt. Will be there,
Be K or Jam,
but also,
a fair gal fund will be there. Nice.
And
Jeremy Os, London Ty,
Maria Con. Wow, lots of them. Yeah. Nice.
You're gonna be gonna be lots of people
there. They actually have a women's meetup up
game on the night. I know I really
wish that we had realized this sooner. Yeah.
But
say, love.
Yeah. So if if we were able to
do it? I would go back just for
this. Unfortunately, we're gonna be on the east
coast when the Venetian opens their new poker
room, but we're really looking forward and we'll
definitely...
Stay tuned to social media,
pictures, video from all of our friends at
above the felt,
just to kinda keep us updated in and
in the loop. We hate that we're missing
this. We wish we could have been back
there for it, but,
we are definitely coming to visit in December.
100 percent. Yeah.
We also...
We got a really nice email from,
a listener to the show,
A in a... An email that just kinda
had some feedback for the show. A link
to email. We really appreciate it. Yeah. But
he
had mentioned
that
you were always the 1 to end the
show with talking about it it's a pleasure
being around the table with you, and he
pointed out the fact that
I'm never the 1 to end the show
this way.
So today,
l, I want you to know.
Always a pleasure being around the table with
you.
Likewise,
and thanks, A.
Gal time for call the floor
with Elliott Sc.
Elliott sc joined us each week to say
how he would rule on situations that come
up in your games,
and he's with us again this week. Elliot,
how's it going? Going pretty well. Here I
am in more casual Yeah. Guard than,
I'm usually at tired in. Yeah. But it's
great to be with you. It's glad to
do another call the floor.
We do have a call the floor that
was sent in by Ken Douglas,
and
this one's gonna be an interesting to me
too. Interesting 1 to me too, I think,
because I don't know yet. But I think
we might come down on different sides of
this 1.
That is possible. Let's have some continuity
yeah I podcast.
Kin says we're deep in the Ms.
San Diego. It's a 250 dollar P o
and, no limit. Hold on mix event. There's
2 tables left and they're approaching the bubble.
This ruling,
it's spread out basically over multiple hands.
In the hand
Ken's in seat 2, and he's in a
pot with a player in seat 8
and seat 8 has bet all in on
the river,
Ken's got a pretty tough decision to make,
he heads up. So,
he says, while I'm thinking,
the player in seat 5 start saying out
loud,
folder call, folder call.
You know you're gonna fold, folder call.
This goes on for about a minute.
For background,
this player is the chip leader
and has been somewhat annoying the whole tournament.
He also
appears to be somewhat inexperienced
at least in tournament play.
Eventually, Ken says, do you mind I'm trying
to make a decision.
So the
player in seat 5 funds by laughing and
sn At him. He says,
the dealer tells him he cannot talk about
the hand. And eventually Ken folds
The next hand, they get to the river
heads up with that same player in seat
5 the disruptive player.
They're playing P o,
He says I have top 2 pair in
the flush blocker, but the river has brought
a backdoor door flush and backdoor straight,
villain checks, and he bets a third of
the pot. Ken bets a third of the
pot. The villain laughs out loud and pass
it.
Again, putting ken all in,
It says if I fold,
I'm left with about 16 big blinds.
This is when the villain again,
it laughs out loud.
Scrunch his face
sn at him.
So basically, he's making faces at him.
Ken asks for the floor.
The floor
arrives, I explained that the bill is verbally
taunting me and interfering with my decisions.
And then he should get a warning to
stop. Other players at the table speak up
and confirm the behavior over several hands.
The floor rules that the hand will be
played out.
Ken kinda gathers himself a little bit, takes
a full 2 minutes
and,
eventually decides to fold.
Flo tells Villain that he can't speak about
action when he is not in the hand,
for the from the first hand, but that
he can't stop him from making faces in
an opponent as it's nodding against the rules.
2 hands later for Ken's move to another
table.
As he sits down, the villain looks at
him from a the other table,
making faces at him again.
So ken discreet calls the floor over and
tells him what happened,
he goes to the billing, gives him a
1 rem... Penalty.
So
This is where we get into the question
for you.
Ken says, am I right to call the
floor here?
I know Villain may not be violating the
letter of the Td rules, but he is
clearly trying to annoy me and his behavior
was just rude and bo.
Td Is this part of the game that
we have to live with or
when we pay the entry fee, do we
have the right to be treated with dignity
and respect at the table?
Well,
actually,
this kind of behavior is expressly against the
rules.
And anybody who says it isn't.
Especially somebody working in the industry as a
tournament director turned an assistance or a floor
person, poker manager poker director,
a dealer
as a fool.
And in fact,
Let me
get this for you.
Rule number 2.
Player responsibilities.
I will skip to the most important part,
but players are responsible for
knowing and complying with the rules,
following 1 player to a hand,
practicing
proper etiquette,
informing the house if they see or experience
this discriminatory or offensive
and generally contribute to an orderly event where
all players feel welcome.
So
bo and offensive behavior is patent
and distinctly against the rules of poker and
tournaments.
So,
the fact that this lazy supervisor didn't wanna
do anything about it is rather frustrating,
especially when multiple players are confirming
the offensive behavior.
And this behind a behavior is not allowed,
making faces that somebody is not allowed.
Constantly heck or or pest somebody is not
allowed.
So again,
it's okay to know the rules, and it's
okay to look at them if you don't
know.
But just to say there, there no rule
again, somebody making faces are acting boris.
That's just not true.
It is against the rules and I've had
to show people the rail or the door
when they've acted offensive. I
In fact, if anybody has worked with me
in the past or or clay tournaments I've
directed, they know I
have little patience for that kind of
behavior.
I'm there to make sure everybody's having a
good time. It's kind of my responsibility and
what I get paid for.
So, yeah, I've got a a nice hook
when it comes to that, and it's not
slow.
It it kinda reminds me of
the, I guess, controversy a few years ago
with Will Ka,
because,
you know, he
really wasn't
pushing those limits probably as much as this
guy was
making faces, On know. He was really talking
a lot.
And I think the the difference to me
was he was
will K was in the hand.
And in this 1 when he was saying
razor full or... Was that the guy who
was literally standing up next to his opponent
and and trying to look down and and
no.
No. This 1... That was another 1 Yeah.
That 1... That 1 is is is different.
But this 1 was really just 1... He
was...
Trying to
get the information that he wanted by using
the the table talk. But he was
taking an excessive amount of time
and
Okay. Kept pushing buttons. It it started to
feel more like bullying as time went on.
Right. Again, like I said, the probably
what Wi Did was probably
less of a in fraction than what this
person with... Doing because this person is literally
in the... At least in the first hand,
he wasn't even in the hand and making
comments,
which I think is
is pretty expressly against the rules as well.
So... It is.
It the part that gets me is
I think as a poker player,
you have to be able to ignore
people to some degree as well. Right? It's
it's sure. And
So
in Ken's case,
he started to let this get under his
skin a little bit,
and and I think
this other player kinda saw that as an
opportunity
to Right.
Use that to try and and throw him
off. Right? Tilt him a little bit.
Yeah. Very much.
And
to some degree, people are gonna want to
take advantage of those things. But you have
to do it within the rules.
So...
Quite. I I just... I just feel like
in in this case, can...
You've gotta
be able to push that aside a little
bit. Were you right in call the floor?
Absolutely?
Absolutely. I think you're writing call on the
floor, but at the same time,
you've gotta be able to
play the game without letting stuff like that
get your skin a little bit. So... And
to his credit Ken did.
He collected himself. He took his time.
That is true. He then proceeded to
play well.
So
they shook it off.
Yeah. As a matter of fact,
his little
ending note here, he said Villain ended up
busting as the bubble boy, which Karma, you
know, with with no money, which elicit
clapping and cheering
once he left the tournament area.
And Ken went on to win the tournament
to claim his first Ms t spa trophy.
So
congratulations on that, Ken.
For sure. Well, done, okay. Yeah.
So you're right.
Proof right there, he was able to collect
himself and move on.
So
good job for that. But
Absolutely.
Yeah. I I just feel like I... Well,
first of all, I didn't know that it
was
expressly against the rule, like, written in there,
But And black and white. Yeah.
But
just
commonly
people have some kinda etiquette yourself. Like,
have more respect for yourself and for others.
That that should be a general role in
life
anyway.
So that should be.
Alright. Ken,
thank you for sending that in. Another great
topic keeps sending those in. If you have
a call the floor that you would like
to know how
Elliott would rule. Send it to podcast at
any at magazine dot com.
Elliott
will do this again next week. Absolutely. Wonderful
forward to him.
Let's break it down with hand of the
week.
We are
back with the another hand of the week
and Patrick.
How's it going? We're here. We're we got
another 1 going. I'm am good my, And
yourself?
I'm good, man. I'm back at home back
into the swing of things,
but
real quick, Brad Jackpot Digital our hand end
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congratulations to Jackpot digital. I mean, they just...
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it's gonna be, you know, significantly more presence
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Keep up the good work. And if you
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I will help him unload it. I promise.
I know I talked about this when I
was out here in December too, but
but
there are some rooms out here that could
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That that don't have a poker room
but just set these tables out there and
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I think it was phenomenal.
So
our hand of the week this week.
K. It is sent in by Dustin Scar.
Alright.
And I've actually had a chance to catch.
Dustin out here at the tables while where
we're in Vegas. And
I tell you, I watched him play a
little bit,
he can hold his own. So
sites. This will be fun to see how
differently we play this hand.
He's actually sent in a couple, so
we'll we'll have to keep maybe a running
total to see how how we do.
I like it. Is this 1 way... Wait.
Is this 1 from from last week when
he was po? Yeah. This is from the
colossus event number 70 out here ice. Alright.
Cool.
A new 1.
So in the colossus, there's only 1 re
buy
allowed,
you know, they have different day 1.
So you... You're allowed 1 re buy. K.
This is our first buy in.
Okay. But Dustin says he's prepared to re
buy if he gets knocked out. Cuff. That's
good and good to know. I'm at my
starting table, which has an international flare.
Japan and England.
1 local Las Vegas grinder
and other players whose skill levels range from
beginner
to some experience.
So kinda like this hand of the week
segment.
Dustin this is perfect. I mean, I'm a
little past them beginner, but some days, I
don't feel that way. Alright. What's...
Man I'm gonna tell you what that's a
mixed bag and
date.
Yeah.
He said he got this information by making
some small
small talk and cracking some jokes and trying
to get a feel for his opponent. So
that... I think it's cool. That's, you know,
that's 1 of the things I try to
do is is get a feel for who
I'm playing against when I get to the
table. So for
Ad dustin says my image is solid
as I have only been playing solid hands
in position and have shown down strong winning
hands to the table.
I currently have a stack slightly above starting
at 50 k.
Where you start with 40 k.
K.
It's 40 minute levels,
we're in level 2
with 10 minutes left.
We are currently playing 8 handed
out of 10 seats.
And if the opportunity arises
I plan to take a higher variance play
and double my stack in the earlier levels
or re buy.
So there we go. We got some background
there.
Alright.
Our blinds are 204 hundred with a 400
big blind anti.
And with our 50 k, we've got a
hundred and 25 big blinds,
we're in the cutoff,
and an early player limp.
It folds to us with the As Clubs
king of Spade.
As Clubs
king is Spade
and it's limp all the way around to
us.
Well, I like Ace king. I don't know
about the rest of, you know, you guys
out there, but I tend to like that.
So,
going with,
and and, you know, off cam a little
behind the scenes, we were actually just talking
about this.
You know, correct me if I'm wrong joe.
But, you know,
seeing some of the guys playing out there
as far as, you know, what's your minimum
rate raises,
you know, every 1 of us has a
you know, even Dustin was talking about what
his image was. You know, we all have
an image. I think when I'm feeling
good about hands. I was definitely feeling good
about the hand last week. I I went
nuts start with. But that being said, I
mean, I think my normal 1 when I'm
playing it's closer to 3.
That being said, very winded response to,
I'm probably gonna go
a thousand.
Okay.
I think that's probably a little
on the smaller side. Smaller side.
I. Again. You gotta take this with a
grain all too. I feel like when we
play tournaments,
especially big hanging tournaments.
I don't necessarily play them well. So this
will be a fun 1 to do. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
I... We... You're right. We... Before we jumped
on here, we were just talking about our
starting raises. Right?
And it used to be that I would
do 2 and a half times the big
blind to bet... That was my standard. Yeah.
I've started to...
As I was thinking about my own game,
then I've started to think about it from
a perspective of doing...
Higher bets at the beginning early stages of
a tournament,
and then bringing it back as the tournament
progresses. So... Yeah.
We're in the second level right now. So
I'm probably gonna start with A3X
rays. Right?
Plus 1 big blind for the limp.
So
that would put me right there at 1600.
Okay. I'm following you now. Alright.
That works for me. What's what's our friend,
dustin do?
Dustin
bet 16. Hey.
Listen. If this continues back to back weeks,
we're gonna have to worry about how big
get is.
Alright. So 1600 it is. Yeah. Dustin says,
due to the limp, I sized up and
made it 1600.
The villain on the button, a Japanese player
who is here for an extended time to
play in world series of poker events.
He appears to be
poker accomplished
and has been very active
and is the chip leader at our table,
with 65 k,
which has me covered around 15 k. He
3 bets us to 4600,
and the blinds
fold,
the limp folds
and it's back to me. Interesting.
Well, I'm calling.
I like Ace King.
Yeah. You're you're you're...
You have that look.
And that look folks for the ones not
listening or not watching.
The look is
I'm feeling frog, and I'm going to do
something
over the top. I think that's what you're
thinking right now. Yeah. Yeah that you are.
Yes. Spot on. Yep. There's there's 2 schools
of thought here. Right? So there are some
people that think,
well, Ace king
still just ace king. It's no pair,
but let me tell you. It's
the nut no pair. It's the best no
pair you can have.
It is. It is literally the best.
No pay... Well,
I guess suited would be the only way
better, there.
But yeah, You're right.
I think the other thing too is that
I think you know, this is early on
enough in a tournament and correct me if
I'm wrong, but
I I guess you wanna set a tone
too and why you're holding Ace king as
well. I think that's important.
For sure.
So where are you going with this? Yeah.
I definitely wanna put some aggression back
on
the chip leader here, let him know that
we mean business.
It's gonna be a big portion of our
stack already. But... I was gonna say, because
what it's 4... What, 4600
to us. Is that what you said?
4600.
Yeah.
So
All men
phrases
were in for 10.
Already... I'm going 15.
Joey just love things skin right now.
I I do like that. I I get
why you're doing it. I think most of
most of our listeners what's in Foot feel
the same. I think that's a a good
call. It's a Guts 1. Don't get me
wrong. It takes it takes some guts, but
You know, I... It's a smart play. I
get it. We can rep aces and kings
here too. So... Yeah. Absolutely. You can.
Yeah. So that's what I'm doing. 15 to
go. K. And
Dustin says, since the player has been very
active and has position,
I elect a 4 bet.
Versus calling.
I make it on the smaller side, 10500
as this is 20 percent of my stack
and if he 5 bet jams,
I want options to get away.
The villain thinks for about 20 seconds
and makes the call.
And let me just say... It doesn't makes
a good point because if we if we
go a little smaller than I did,
then we do have the option to get
away a little bit. But I just
don't know that I wanna be getting away
from it.
So... Fair? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So Dustin put some thoughts in here He
says, this might be the opportunity to play
a big pot and double. But I'm also
willing to pump the brakes if needed and
fold.
I have ace king off suit
and remove combos of aces and kings,
Billings range could be wide with all pocket
pairs in play, fives and up, suited connectors
and even some face cards.
This was the first 4 at our table,
and I viewed my 4 as extremely strong,
which polarized
my range to the villain.
I also considered making it slightly bigger to
12500
to or 13000
which I still even went bigger than that.
Yeah. You weren't even bigger than that 1,
but elected for the smaller sizing for my
4,
He says I truly believed if this player
had Aces or kings and maybe even queens
that he would 5 bet us.
And wanna get all the chips in pre
fly. While I don't like risking over a
hundred big blinds with Ace King,
I'm willing to gamble early to build a
big stack in this specific tournament.
Yeah.
So
there's now
22400
in the pot.
And the flop is the queen of Spade
8 of hearts,
5 of clubs.
So it's rainbow
flop.
I, I don't love that.
Yeah.
This is why people say what's just ace
king.
Yeah. You don't have any paired.
But again, it you're probably
dustin what it dustin said he's taking Aces
ages and kings out.
They could have queens. Yes,
you know, they...
From what it sounds like, the the
the villains play some hand, so you're not
making them... Can't make them out on anything
just yet. Mean, you're... You could... He I
mean, he's got a range.
So
However, we did not pair our Aces or
kings, so that's unfortunate.
Right.
This is the point where if you're willing
to slow down and let go of the
hand, you can check and let it go
for sure. Yeah.
I still wanna try to represent those big
pairs,
even Ace queen at this point. Fair. I
give you that.
So I'm gonna continue to put pressure on
here in bet
12 k.
I'm full. I'm checking. You're... Checking there. I
I... Did you hear the subconscious come out
there? I... I started with. Yeah. I know
you started with fault.
I'm I'm checking.
Yeah. If the billing calls my 12 k
that we can reevaluate, but I'm I'm putting
it in there.
Dustin is in your camp, P elect to
check.
Come. And Villain checks back
fairly quickly.
Which to me,
a quick check back.
To me that screams either a draw or
small to medium pair. So Yeah. They're and
they're whole nines.
Yeah. My immediate all. You know? Right. My
immediate thought is can we get somebody to...
Can we get this particular player to
fold a small to medium pair.
If so,
we continue to put the pressure on if
not, we reel it back in a little.
Yeah.
Dust says taking away Aces and kings from
villain I'm behind ice queen king queen, pocket
eights, and pocket fives.
Don't believe they hit a set of Queens
as he would have bet that hand
bet that hand as my pre fought play
looks like Aces and kings.
And ace king or even Queens.
Villain could have ace queen and he is
checking back for pot control and considering that
I might have Aces or kings.
So
there you go.
So we went check check.
The turn is
the queen of hearts.
Now the board is the queen spade, 8
of hearts,
5 of clubs
queen of hearts.
Oh, man.
So what do you think about that?
Yeah. I mean, it's... Again, I I would
have loved to see Ace king come out.
I think... And it's a little bit different
than the first.
Check.
But I think I wanna check to him
again to kinda see where he's at. I
I know where we are
I think we're gonna learn something from
what... How he responds to a check.
To... 100.
Yeah. Okay. Alright.
So I'm checking there and then
wait to see what he's got? Because, I
mean, if he comes when you're down the
around a second. So what's our friend, dustin,
you said you check
I... Yeah. I think it's it's it's a
tough card. Right?
So
it makes it less likely that we can
have A queen.
Still yeah. But
we're more wrapping aces and kings now rather
than,
or other smaller pairs.
But, yeah. I think you're right. We learn
a lot
from
how the villain reacts to us checking.
Yeah.
So let's see what the villain does.
Dustin says, I take about 20 seconds and
check.
The villain seems slightly unsure
and bets out very small
after 30 seconds,
for
7000
into a 22400
pot.
Seems unsure and bet 7000 in a 22.
So this about a quarter.
I... I'm I'm still right where
you and I were to start with in...
I mean, with dustin instead of to the
range wise, but
a smaller pair,
a draw,
he's made us on... It realistically, he still
may make us on Ice queen, but definitely
Aces is definitely possibly kings.
I I think you you at least call.
Yeah. I don't think we're beat by any
means.
I I think I mean, I think we're
beat currently. I think... I mean, we we
don't have a parent Okay. Let they do.
Yeah. Okay. Let me rephrase.
We may be beat, but I think we're
in control if we want to be. Yes.
Which which when it comes down to it
is
half to battle as well. I mean, you
gotta have the cards somewhere sooner or later,
but you don't always have to have the
cards. So that being said, I I think
you at least call,
I think
Realistically, if you're gonna keep representing a hands,
like 1 has taught me,
you're going bigger.
I'm putting an all in baby.
If the look, if if if Our read
is right, and he truly seems unsure.
If we go for it right here, we
really represent a queen.
Then
I think we get him to fold.
Yeah. And I think you take down a
very nice pod to continue to into this
gate.
Tournament.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm check raising all in.
Dustin says,
I consider check raising
an electric call
who
with 36400
in the pot, and I have 32500
behind.
Villains range is based around middle pairs,
nine's, tens, jacks,
and Villain doesn't
not have really full house or trip queens.
So Villains bet of 7000
was more probably of a probing bet.
My line would call with Aces,
kings
or ace queen.
I think you've you represent an ace queen
specifically,
you're raising.
I think if you're representing Aces and kings...
He's not wrong.
I could see it.
Yeah. I think he actually made the case
for check raising. There rather than calling.
It seems more likely to me to check
raise a screen here because
if you have Ice queen, the turn is
where you make your money. So
I think that's where we have to get
it in.
But
he just calls.
And the river comes out the 2 of...
Clubs.
Mh
w.
So queen spade, 8 of hearts,
5 of clubs,
queen of hearts,
2 of clubs.
Yeah.
What do what do you do with that?
Okay. Well, you all of your chips are
already in. Literally.
There's... They... They're... They've been in...
As soon as that other queen showed shoulder
her face.
Joe with shoving chips.
So... But, however, if we're playing Dustin hand,
and you just called there, Are you shoving
here?
Are you tech shoving?
I don't wanna check shove.
And
I don't think we win this hand if
we just check. So I think the only
option is to put.
All of our chips in. And I hope
that they fold.
Yeah.
But I think that we would have been
better served putting him in a street earlier.
I think you're right. I yeah. III do.
I think you're right too.
Not easy to do, but think you're right.
What's what's Dustin in up?
Dustin says I take about 20 seconds and
go all in. I for 32500
into a 36400
pot.
Villain tanks for over 2 minutes.
That's the longest 2 minutes
ever.
Good. Gosh. 2 minutes. And at times he
looked like he was going to fold.
But then the villain changed his mind and
looked like he was going to call.
Clock was called
on the villain.
But he made the call before the floor
even arrived and turned over
pocket tens,
winning the pot and knocking me out. I
said nines. Yeah. You did. You called it.
We... Yeah. I think... All 3 of us.
I think... I was gonna say Dustin called
it. I mean, I'd I'd glenn... I mean,
I fed off of him.
Dustin says I know
that my play was higher variance, but being
able to re buy and build a huge
stack.
My blockers,
and based on the villains line, I think
we can place them on a specific range
of pocket pairs.
My river jam
should get the bill to fold and allow
me to win the pot as he's only
beating a bluff or lesser pocket pairs. Ace
king, ace jack nines.
Just so happened we had the Ace king
in hindsight,
I should have bet the turn card versus
checking.
As is...
This is what... Dustin dusted is spot on.
He he he he
he knew what what he was doing. Yeah.
They said betting on the turn card and
then going all in. Oh, so he didn't
wanna go all in. He just wanted to
bet lead out.
I think actually, I think actually,
Dustin, I think the check raise
looks more strong there on that turn card.
But,
But you're right. Even if you bet there
and then bet the river,
that makes our shove look even stronger on
the river and either way either either
line probably gets
our opponent to fold.
Yeah.
Yeah. That's a fun 1. That was a
fun 1. That was a good 1.
Dustin, that was definitely,
I think you you had it peg.
You,
Sounds like you played it pad. You you
really didn't.
Learned a lot from that. I think a
lot had to do with it too. I
think I've may have played it differently.
I I appreciate the background, I guess is
what I was trying to say because having
the rebound in my pocket
allowed me to know the check, shove or
check raise was the way to go. Yeah.
You don't have that in your pocket. You
don't ear... You're not settle on that yet.
I mean, I think you play a little
bit differently. So that's a good.
Yeah. I I think you... At at least
you think about it. So
Oh. Either way, either way the rebound went
well. Yeah. I was say, either way, we're
all back at that re bike.
Yep.
And,
I have not seen a bracelet. From Dustin.
So I don't think the re by got
him
a championship, but hopefully, he cashed.
And There. Yeah.
So,
Dustin, thanks for sending that in. And if
anybody else has a hint of the week
that they would like Patrick and I to
down. Send it to podcast at any at
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Patrick las it again next week. Pleasure always.
I'll see you then.
Now that we're back home and we have
a little bit of time outside of poker.
It had me thinking about why we all
love this game
despite the roller coaster of emotions it puts
us through.
It's this mix of
acceleration,
soul crushing defeat and
the occasional bout of beginner luck that keeps.
Us coming back for more. Right?
Or maybe it's that art of the well
timed bluff because you've worked hard being patient
and building your image,
you've told that story on every street. Now
it's time to go for it.
Bluff is like this delicate dance where you're
the star performer and
everyone else has left questioning their life choices
until
someone calls your bluff, and you're left to
sheep
turn your hand over.
But, hey, at least you tried,
I used to think that it was the
fact that I had control of the game
that I loved so much.
But that's really all in illusion too. Right?
We're still at the mercy of the deck.
I'll admit though. That there is something beautifully
ironic about.
Feeling like a master strategist, well,
still praying for an ace on the river.
Like being a captain of a ship with
half a rudder.
You're still navigating the seas, but
ultimately,
it's up to the waves.
Or
the cards
as to where you end up.
A friend of mine was telling me that
their favorite moments of poker are when they
make an outrageous call and it pays off.
You know, the times when you put your
opponent on a specific hand
and you're actually right.
It's like finding a needle in a haystack
and then doing this victory dance. Right?
Never mind that these moments are
about as rare as a solar eclipse.
I guess they're worth every ounce of south
doubt regret that they had to go through
to get there.
Being in Vegas during the W sop was
further proof that Poker brings people together too.
Sometimes too close together.
Like when that 1 friend won't stop telling
you how they
almost won that big hand,
but it's all part of the charm,
the banter, the rivalry and the shared moments
of victory and defeat.
These create these bonds that last longer
than the time it takes for a new
player to shuffle a deck.
I also enjoy the little side anecdotes in
poker, like
players and their superstition.
The lucky hat, the special shuffle, the ritual
snack break.
It's part of the fun to believe that
these little quirks have any bearing on the
outcome of a game that is
entirely based on probability.
But, hey, it makes you feel better. If
it makes you feel better to...
But, hey, if it makes you feel better
to knock 3 times on the table before
you look at your cards,
That's Sm on my face.
That's me enjoying the moment, not judging you.
In the end,
poker is more than just a game,
it's a test of wits and nerves. It's
the perfect blend of strategy
luck and
socialization that keeps us coming back for more.
So
here's the poker,
the game we love to hate
and hate to love.
But deal me in for sure.
That's today's 1 outer,
and that's today's show.
I'll see you next week, 18.
And until then,
I'll see you at the tables.
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