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This is america on the road named best

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And now when its 30 first year on

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the air. Thanks for being with us as

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we bring you the latest

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automotive information from around the world. I'm Jack

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N ed with me is... C host Chris

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Ti. Chris, great to see you I hope

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you had a terrific fourth of July. Great

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to see you as well. We did a

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little bit cloudy, but nice and warm for

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fireworks in Texas are just wild or fourth

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of July, so that's pretty cool.

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A lot of news this week, even given

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the fact it's holiday week. In the news,

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a global car maker has delayed the launch

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of a new affordable E.

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In the wake of the Biden administration's tariff,

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new tariff on Chinese built electric vehicles. We'll

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tell you the car maker, the model, and

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why the decision was made to delay the

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launch coming up. So interesting stuff there.

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There's also tons of volkswagen news that... This

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week, not only is the brand unveiled new

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Jet and Gulf bar, but it has also

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made a major investment in electric truck maker

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meridian this I bet you have some thoughts

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on that, Chris. I love to hear them

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coming up. Mh. And, finally,

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We're talking about every listener out there might

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have a time bomb ticking right in their

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steering wheel. Right in front of them. And

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you probably don't realize it or you might

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not realize it so we have the details

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on that coming up it's something to pay

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attention to. Chris, there's almost too much news

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this week isn't there. Yeah. At least, it

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doesn't all sound bad though this time. It's

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usually... It sometimes it's very dramatic. Yeah. Well,

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it's a lot of drama here, pluses is

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As you longtime, listeners know, Chris lives at

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1 end of the country. I live at

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the other. Each week we get together to

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talk about cars, the car industry, how you

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can save some money on your cars. And

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talk about this week. Don't you? I did.

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about it. Right. And I had a vehicle.

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the fact that I drove it for a

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So Welcome back everybody to Marathon on the

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for our news segment and the news this

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Well, there's tons of it.

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maybe a lengthy delay of a very affordable

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United States over a year ago, and then

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imposed a hundred percent tariffs

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on Chinese built electric vehicles, and the vehicle

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we've talked about it here on the show.

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Volvo has said they are putting this off

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until they can begin to build these vehicles

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build cars versus China. Yeah. They'd had already

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create a giant stir over this at the

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same time. They wanted to let us on

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the jury, for example, in the North American

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car your jury. Know that this vehicle is

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going to be postponed yet again. So they

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are still committed to bringing in the Ex

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x 30. It's a pretty cool vehicle,

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but it's gonna be a while. And, again,

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we're not gonna get that affordable E that

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everybody's hoping that we we get. Yeah. You

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we've been promised so many times and nobody

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has yet delivered it. I mean, I think

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the Chevy bolt and maybe some versions of

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the model 3 have come closest, but,

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news concerns Volkswagen and their deal with R,

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the electric truck maker.

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be doing fairly well. I see a lot

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areas of the country. They're super expensive, and

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Vw apparently as bought into R in to

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secure some of their technology, something you've been

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again. Something I have to scratch my head

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over the fact that a a startup up

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E maker not exactly a backyard startup, but

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is certainly certainly a startup has more expertise

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in building these kind of vehicles than a

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global car maker like volkswagen does, but that's

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obviously case. That's why they have made this

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big investment pretty interesting, I think that they're

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admitting. Hey. We... Need help, and we're gonna

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spend some money to get it. Yeah. It's

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a great move for both companies. Really, R

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needs the money the capital to build its

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next generation r 2 and r 3 vehicles

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has just... Has struggled with their technology as

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they move to electric vehicles. The the Porsche

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E was delayed because they couldn't figure out

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the software in Volkswagen has a whole division

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dedicated to this stuff. So

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it it looks like it'll be mutually beneficial.

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a new software, the r software is going

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to certainly go into the RR2

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as you mentioned, that's coming up. It's also

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Lamborghini, Bentley, v... Beyond Volkswagen and it's gonna

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interesting too in the reporting.

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R is doing fairly well compared to Wilson

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which has just declared bankruptcy,

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chapter 11 bankruptcy

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protection but they are,

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reportedly losing 40000

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dollars for every vehicle they deliver.

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I mean, I don't know about you, chris.

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I'm a business major. I guess, so I

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understand this deep finance, But

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unsustainable, isn't it? It is. And if you

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compare them to like a large automaker like

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ford, You know, they have gas vehicles to

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offset some of the losses they have from

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their electric vehicle business, but R and Tesla,

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some of the others don't have that. So,

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through 20 25, but that hasn't stopped them.

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a couple layoffs offs in recent months. So

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hopefully this helps them right the ship. Well,

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volkswagen and buying their expertise. And obviously, they

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have expertise The volkswagen felt they

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didn't have. So I find that. Interesting. The

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giving them a 25 percent stake in Caribbean

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probably did, Chris, That the current... The previous

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largest shareholder of R,

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was Amazon. I thought it was ford, but

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think Ford had a big investment and then

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sold off a lot of their investment, which

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made people think, oh, 0, or R might

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be headed for the dumpster,

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but that didn't happen. I guess there's happier

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news. There's pretty cool cars to talk about,

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and we're always excited about that.

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Volkswagen has announced

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a new Golf r and Golf r variant.

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Talk and a lot of horsepower, pretty cool

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stuff. It's not quite ready to come United

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States in fact folks, so I could sent

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us a translation of the German release,

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they were recently put out, But 328 horsepower

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from the golf r and a golf bar

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variant. I gotta believe that variant is something

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love and we'll never see in the United

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air, Jack, You know, I owned a 20

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23 golf r, the twentieth anniversary model,

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had to have a lemon law buy back

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because of some of the technology and safety

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equipment issues.

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But, man, it was such a fun car

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to drive. It doesn't feel quite as

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quick for a hatchback. Yeah. And a top

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speed a hundred and 6 7 miles an

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hour. I mean, that is mind blowing. I

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remember doing top speed tests and motor trend

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magazine,

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and trying to push corvette vets and

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Lamborghini and those kind of things up to

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that speed.

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Your Ns and those kind of things. The

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fact that a hatchback will the 167

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miles an hour is, kind of a mind

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blower when you think about it. Yeah. And

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you get torque vector all wheel drive. You

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get a bunch of cool arrow to aerodynamic

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body work. And so... The you know, I

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mean, it's a great all around car. Quite

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expensive though. Very, very expensive, and not not

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gonna come to us immediately. I mean, do

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you have any sense of when when we're

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going to see it, chris.

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I've been hearing rumors of early next year,

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so, like, early spring maybe, but we'll have

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to see. I I don't have a crystal

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ball. Right. Well, we are talk about affordable

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vehicles, and

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this is kind of good news I think,

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for affordability,

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affordability, and that is the new Volkswagen and

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Jet kind of renewed. This is a refresh

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rather than an all new jet, But, they've

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also lowered some pricing. In fact, you can

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get it a a Jet,

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with a starting price of under 22000

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dollars. Is a pretty darn good good value,

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I think in In this day and age

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when everything is over 30 get 30 grand.

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It is the jet is comfortable, it drives

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nicely. It's got nice tech inside and it's

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got a good

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list of standard safety equipment. So I mean,

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this is a... This could be a value

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winner for them, assuming people still buy cars.

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Yeah. Well, that's interesting. I they note that

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the the Jet is the best selling Volkswagen

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car

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in the United States, Of course, in North

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America, They're not selling the ton of cars.

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They're selling more Suvs than cars these days

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because that's what people are buying. There's also

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a new

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Gl

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version kind of the Gt

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version of this sedan.

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I think that should be a fun cartoon

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too. Yeah. I like the Gl is it's

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not quite as hot as the Gt, but

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you know, you get 228 horsepower, and you

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can get a 6 speed manual transmission. So

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it's definitely a driver's score. Right. Well, we

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alluded to the fact that you might have

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a ticking time bomb. Right? In your steering

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wheel or right in inside your vehicle and

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what we're talking about are airbags the tu

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kinda airbags that have been recalled years and

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years ago, but there's plenty of vehicles out

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there. There's according to Car, 6200000.0

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vehicles

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that still have airbags that need to be

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replaced, and then there's some issues even with

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the the replacements. Right, Chris? Yeah. It's amazing

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that we're almost 10 years out from the

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original recall. Now. And we're still seeing new

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new vehicles being wrapped in and people being

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encouraged to do this. But, there's also been

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an issue with counterfeit airbags. And as more

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of these ta avocados are replaced, there's

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increased worry that, you know, some of these

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counterfeit units could make their way into cars

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and they're just as dangerous as the airbags.

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So,

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hopefully, if you get your car fixed, you

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get it done in a dealer who who

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knows what they're doing. Right. And I would

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say, do some research. If you bought a

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a used car suddenly, you might wanna do

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some research and see whether that... Or that

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used car was part of a recall, whether

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the car you've been driving for years. It's

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been part of a recall for this, and

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you maybe just put it off and never

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had it replaced, and it could be deadly.

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So look for that. We'd like to keep

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We like you. And when we come back,

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we probably like a lot. We'll we'll find

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And your road test vehicle is a fun

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vehicle. I driving it not too far not

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too long ago and really enjoyed it, but

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tell us about it.

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Yeah. I spent the week behind the wheel

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of the 20 24 Mazda cx 30.

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This is their smallest crossover at the moment.

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I'm calling it a crossover, but as I

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hinted at earlier in the show. I think

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it's more of a, like, a pseudo hot

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hatch, you know, it's

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very close to the Mazda 3 in terms

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of size and looks and everything. So

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just a fun vehicle to drive jack. Just

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give me a little rehash of your opinion

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that we heard a few weeks ago. Well,

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I like the vehicle. I love the way

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Mazda handle.

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This certainly handles really, really well,

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a small vehicle like that compact vehicle doesn't

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have

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it immense

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acc

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capabilities, but it's just fun to push. It's

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fun to fun to drive hard.

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Yeah. I agree it. It is very lively

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and it's fun to drive, But taking a

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step back. This vehicle starts at just over

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26400

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dollars for the base model.

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I tested the Turbo premium plus, which is

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the range topping model. It came out at

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just under 40000 dollars with a couple of

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options. And as we've talked about, Jack a

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couple times in the past, Mazda offers a

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staggering number of configurations for this vehicle, including

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2 power trains in something like 7 or

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8 trim levels, so

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there's certainly no shortage of options if you're

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looking to get exactly what you want with

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this vehicle. There's likely a model for you.

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The base engine's, a 2.5 liter 4 cylinder,

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makes a hundred and 91 horsepower, a hundred

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and 86 pound feet of torque.

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The Turbo premiums or the turbo model that

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I drove, 4 comes with a Turbo charged

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2.5 liter engines, 227

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horsepower, 310 pound feet of torque, which increases

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the 250 horsepower and 3 2320

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pound feet of work when you're on premium

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fuel, which I've always found interesting about mazda

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vehicles.

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All wheel drive is standard and it comes

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with a 6 speed automatic transmission instead of

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it can torque variable unit, which I'm very

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thankful for. So, as we mentioned, it's not

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the quickest vehicle and a straight line, but,

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you know, the Turbo charge engine does have

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good torque and 320 pound feet on premium

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fuel. Is a pretty stout number for a

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vehicle of this size,

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and it gives it a good amount of

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pop off the line. It feels like, you

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know, you can start in and out of

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traffic without any trouble at all making this

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a an excellent computer commuter. I think it's

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it's great

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from a size and and acceleration standpoint.

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The handling, as you mentioned earlier, it's fantastic

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for a crossover. It's sharp. It's responsive. There's

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good steering feel.

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On the flip side of that jack, I

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will point out that there the ride can

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be a little bit rough at times,

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I think that, you know, if you're not

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expecting it, then, you know, you might be

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surprised by a a couple of bumps and

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banks.

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Cloth upholstery comes standard inside. You can get

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synthetic leather. My range topping trim came with

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genuine leather.

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It was a dark brown leather. It's a

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really interesting

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combination of black and dark brown on the

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inside of this vehicle. It's got Mazda soul

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red paint on the outside. Just a really

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visually,

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stimulating, looking interior.

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So I I think Mo is did a

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good job there.

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It comes standard with an 8.8 inch touch

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screen. Mine came with a 10.25 inch unit,

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you get wireless Apple carplay and Android auto.

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Touchscreen is only available with those 2 features,

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so you're gonna have to use the dial

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and we've talked about this until we're blue

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in the face. But it just is not

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my cup of tea to navigate

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long lists of things with a dial.

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And then the top trim, as I mentioned,

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you can't... You get a full list of

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safety features here. So things like automatic emergency

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breaking, ford collision alerts

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those are standard, but then the top trim

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adds blind spot monitoring with rear across traffic

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alerts, parking sensors, pedestrian detection.

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And a head up this display which I

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really enjoy. So, you know, I think, Jack,

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the price here is is right. I mean,

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you can pick almost any any price level

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you want, and you'll get a great list

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of features. The cargo space is a little

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small for me, you know, a family of

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4 with a dog. But if you like

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driving and you need a little bit of

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cargo space and over a hatchback or Sedan

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This is a great pick. Yeah. Absolutely. Terrific

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vehicle love to drive it,

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so much fun. Not sure it's really a

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crossover,

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Suv in a lot of ways. But Yeah.

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I like it no matter what it what

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it is What how you classify it. Agree.

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Yeah. Well, I was driving a vehicle? I

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think you're probably jealous of my, driving at

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this week. I I think the T Family

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drives of Volvo x 90. I was driving

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the plug in hybrid version of the 20

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24 X 90 recharge all wheel drive in

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ultimate trim,

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so that's the top of the line.

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Number 1,

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what jumped out at me was how pretty

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this interior is. It's just got a gorgeous

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interior. I mean, I've liked to evolve interiors

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before, and I think mostly they're understated and

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I and, you know, very well designed, very

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handsome looking is is 1 of the ways

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I would describe them. This... Even beyond that.

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I mean, this really kind of stuck out

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to me as being just a nice place

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to spend a lot of time. So

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getting that out of the way a little

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bit, and I can... I go back and

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talk about infotainment system and some of the

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stuff, I I didn't like quite as much,

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a little later in the in the review,

528
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but

529
00:18:26,345 --> 00:18:27,785
Of course, this is built on the X

530
00:18:27,785 --> 00:18:28,525
c 90

531
00:18:29,625 --> 00:18:31,644
conventional gasoline powered platform.

532
00:18:32,904 --> 00:18:35,099
It has a plug in hybrid system

533
00:18:35,557 --> 00:18:38,032
that adds an electric motor gives it an

534
00:18:38,032 --> 00:18:40,187
and a big battery, fairly big battery. Gives

535
00:18:40,187 --> 00:18:43,620
it 36 miles of E only range, which

536
00:18:43,620 --> 00:18:46,262
system is reasonable, I guess, and I have

537
00:18:46,262 --> 00:18:47,297
to admit during

538
00:18:47,775 --> 00:18:50,243
my week with this thing. I wasn't necessarily

539
00:18:50,243 --> 00:18:51,836
meticulous about plugging it in.

540
00:18:52,727 --> 00:18:55,274
Which I think makes me very similar to

541
00:18:55,274 --> 00:18:57,185
everybody else who's got plug in hybrid vehicle.

542
00:18:57,663 --> 00:18:59,573
Maybe if you plugged it in all the

543
00:18:59,573 --> 00:18:59,892
time,

544
00:19:00,781 --> 00:19:01,655
you would realize

545
00:19:02,052 --> 00:19:03,562
much more benefit out of that,

546
00:19:04,277 --> 00:19:05,945
a lot a lot more money that you

547
00:19:05,945 --> 00:19:09,614
pay for it, but it does get better

548
00:19:09,614 --> 00:19:12,153
fuel economy. And it also is the most

549
00:19:12,153 --> 00:19:12,653
powerful,

550
00:19:13,741 --> 00:19:15,645
of the X nineties by quite a bit.

551
00:19:15,884 --> 00:19:18,151
I mean, this t 8 powertrain

552
00:19:19,167 --> 00:19:19,667
offers

553
00:19:20,044 --> 00:19:21,241
455

554
00:19:21,241 --> 00:19:24,048
horsepower. This makes this... If not quite a

555
00:19:24,048 --> 00:19:27,102
hot rod. It's it's certainly performance oriented.

556
00:19:27,799 --> 00:19:30,273
Let me walk you through the XXE

557
00:19:30,273 --> 00:19:30,773
90

558
00:19:31,231 --> 00:19:33,875
lineup. And the recharge lineup up a little

559
00:19:33,875 --> 00:19:36,265
bit. It starts with the core model. There

560
00:19:36,265 --> 00:19:38,017
is a plus model and then the ultimate.

561
00:19:38,575 --> 00:19:40,747
They're available in 6 or 7 pastor

562
00:19:41,299 --> 00:19:43,773
configuration, The the core model starts at about

563
00:19:43,773 --> 00:19:44,810
74000

564
00:19:44,810 --> 00:19:46,007
dollars, 73000

565
00:19:46,007 --> 00:19:48,082
dollars or so. And has a lot of

566
00:19:48,082 --> 00:19:50,331
good stuff. Heated did front seats leather upholstery

567
00:19:50,411 --> 00:19:51,390
Led headlights,

568
00:19:52,565 --> 00:19:55,436
navigation. It does have this 9 inch touch

569
00:19:55,436 --> 00:19:55,936
screen

570
00:19:56,552 --> 00:19:57,451
Google based

571
00:19:58,067 --> 00:19:58,865
infotainment system,

572
00:19:59,517 --> 00:19:59,755
that,

573
00:20:00,629 --> 00:20:02,615
was was presented to us as... Wow, this

574
00:20:02,615 --> 00:20:04,284
is gonna be a big step forward. I'm

575
00:20:04,284 --> 00:20:05,873
not sure it is such a big step

576
00:20:05,873 --> 00:20:07,144
forward from what

577
00:20:08,273 --> 00:20:09,470
Volvo had before,

578
00:20:10,109 --> 00:20:13,061
and it's it's getting very mixed reviews and

579
00:20:13,061 --> 00:20:15,455
and my review about it is mixed too,

580
00:20:16,187 --> 00:20:17,538
and I think this is a a pretty

581
00:20:17,538 --> 00:20:20,001
small screen in the overall scheme of things

582
00:20:20,001 --> 00:20:22,147
these days, especially in the luxury manufacturer. What

583
00:20:22,147 --> 00:20:24,531
you take on this whole infotainment system, Chris?

584
00:20:24,865 --> 00:20:27,025
It is the screen quality itself is fantastic.

585
00:20:27,184 --> 00:20:29,025
The resolution great. It's very clear and bright.

586
00:20:29,184 --> 00:20:30,704
But as you mentioned, it's a little small

587
00:20:30,704 --> 00:20:32,144
and, adding Google built in,

588
00:20:32,944 --> 00:20:34,959
added features, but it didn't simple by the

589
00:20:34,959 --> 00:20:36,635
the process I, there's a lot of swiping

590
00:20:36,635 --> 00:20:37,193
and searching.

591
00:20:38,071 --> 00:20:39,588
So, you know, I think I have mixed

592
00:20:39,588 --> 00:20:41,423
reviews as well, even that comes from a

593
00:20:41,423 --> 00:20:43,912
volvo fan and owner. So by Yeah. Well,

594
00:20:44,072 --> 00:20:45,906
the vehicle I had, as I said was

595
00:20:45,906 --> 00:20:48,618
an ultimate vehicle, the ultimate starts at about

596
00:20:48,618 --> 00:20:51,170
80000 dollars. The vehicle I had had a

597
00:20:51,170 --> 00:20:53,818
price as tested of 9 underneath a little

598
00:20:53,818 --> 00:20:56,213
over 90000 dollars. It it had things like

599
00:20:56,213 --> 00:20:57,511
the Bowers and Wilkins

600
00:20:57,969 --> 00:21:00,124
premium audio system. You can get a couple

601
00:21:00,124 --> 00:21:02,061
of premium audio systems. Actually

602
00:21:02,775 --> 00:21:04,615
the ultimate comes with a Harm and carbon

603
00:21:04,615 --> 00:21:05,095
sound system,

604
00:21:05,654 --> 00:21:07,255
which is also up level from what is

605
00:21:07,255 --> 00:21:08,934
base and and a very good system,

606
00:21:09,575 --> 00:21:10,694
but then you can get this

607
00:21:11,429 --> 00:21:12,466
more premium system,

608
00:21:13,423 --> 00:21:15,258
which is kind of a mind blower has

609
00:21:15,258 --> 00:21:16,236
1400

610
00:21:16,534 --> 00:21:18,608
watts of power among other things. I mean

611
00:21:18,608 --> 00:21:21,000
you can literally shake the windows out of

612
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,684
out of door frames with them I think.

613
00:21:22,923 --> 00:21:25,782
And what a beautiful luxurious cabin I've mentioned

614
00:21:25,782 --> 00:21:27,529
that, but 1 of the things I should,

615
00:21:27,926 --> 00:21:30,547
point out more specifically are the seats? I

616
00:21:30,547 --> 00:21:33,262
mean, Volvo those have always been known for

617
00:21:33,262 --> 00:21:34,398
really high quality

618
00:21:34,771 --> 00:21:36,836
c seating and very supportive,

619
00:21:37,710 --> 00:21:40,093
very ergonomic designed seating.

620
00:21:40,664 --> 00:21:40,904
And

621
00:21:41,543 --> 00:21:43,541
certainly, this this version of,

622
00:21:44,260 --> 00:21:47,056
this x 90 delivers on that, and you

623
00:21:47,056 --> 00:21:49,382
probably experienced that to, Chris. Yeah. Actually drove

624
00:21:49,382 --> 00:21:51,207
a recharge, not too long ago and the

625
00:21:51,207 --> 00:21:52,793
seats are are every bit is excellent as

626
00:21:52,793 --> 00:21:54,538
you described. Even the ones in my 3

627
00:21:54,538 --> 00:21:56,521
year old regular X 90 gas.

628
00:21:57,330 --> 00:21:59,951
Our fantastic great adjust, great positioning. So, yeah,

629
00:22:00,189 --> 00:22:02,096
no complaints. Yeah. Fun to drive vehicle, of

630
00:22:02,096 --> 00:22:03,287
course, with 455

631
00:22:03,287 --> 00:22:04,875
horsepower. It has tons of torque. Of course,

632
00:22:04,955 --> 00:22:06,328
the electric motor could

633
00:22:06,639 --> 00:22:07,997
contributes a lot of torque. It is an

634
00:22:07,997 --> 00:22:10,234
all wheel drive vehicle can tow up to

635
00:22:10,234 --> 00:22:12,172
5000 pounds, so that's

636
00:22:12,631 --> 00:22:13,030
pretty good.

637
00:22:13,762 --> 00:22:16,227
0 to 60 and 5 seconds. Pretty pretty

638
00:22:16,227 --> 00:22:16,863
darn quick,

639
00:22:17,658 --> 00:22:18,929
3 row Suv.

640
00:22:19,486 --> 00:22:21,632
It doesn't have a ton of storage space

641
00:22:21,632 --> 00:22:23,238
behind the third row of seats... In the

642
00:22:23,238 --> 00:22:25,307
third row seats is, I think pretty much

643
00:22:25,307 --> 00:22:26,421
for children only.

644
00:22:27,216 --> 00:22:29,524
11.2 cubic feet behind the third row isn't

645
00:22:29,524 --> 00:22:31,354
a whole bunch. It's kinda like the a

646
00:22:31,354 --> 00:22:34,000
mia trunk. Back there something that order.

647
00:22:34,718 --> 00:22:36,473
You put kids in the the third row,

648
00:22:36,633 --> 00:22:38,228
what you take on that. I have ridden

649
00:22:38,228 --> 00:22:39,839
in a third road myself, and I tell

650
00:22:39,839 --> 00:22:41,992
you it's best reserved for children because getting

651
00:22:41,992 --> 00:22:43,907
in and out is difficult for anyone over

652
00:22:43,907 --> 00:22:46,698
4 feet tall. Yeah. Well, I... A lot

653
00:22:46,698 --> 00:22:48,054
to like about this vehicle.

654
00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:50,704
I think maybe the bowers and Wilkins setup

655
00:22:50,704 --> 00:22:51,184
up is

656
00:22:51,744 --> 00:22:54,224
overkill at 19 speakers, but man, it sounds

657
00:22:54,224 --> 00:22:56,704
so great. It's it just is awesome.

658
00:22:57,184 --> 00:22:59,400
And like I say, this has a

659
00:22:59,916 --> 00:23:01,211
a really superior

660
00:23:01,664 --> 00:23:04,446
interior. III just was was bold away from.

661
00:23:04,764 --> 00:23:06,989
There's also 1 thing that was on our

662
00:23:06,989 --> 00:23:09,864
test car that, my wife didn't like very

663
00:23:09,864 --> 00:23:11,771
much and wanted me to mention, and that

664
00:23:11,771 --> 00:23:12,804
is the running boards.

665
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,585
I don't know why these were added. It's

666
00:23:15,585 --> 00:23:17,150
pretty easy to get and out of this

667
00:23:17,269 --> 00:23:20,524
thing. She's not particularly tall. She's about 56I

668
00:23:20,524 --> 00:23:20,682
think,

669
00:23:21,476 --> 00:23:23,699
which is, I guess, average woman size or

670
00:23:23,699 --> 00:23:25,367
something like that. Easy to get an in

671
00:23:25,367 --> 00:23:28,111
and out of thing and then bangs her

672
00:23:28,169 --> 00:23:30,083
chin on the middle of the of the

673
00:23:30,083 --> 00:23:31,758
running board, you know, trying to get in.

674
00:23:31,918 --> 00:23:33,433
So that's kind of a negative view where

675
00:23:33,433 --> 00:23:35,108
you could just not buy those.

676
00:23:35,826 --> 00:23:38,799
And you'd be just fine. I think though

677
00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:40,019
we got a couple of vehicles

678
00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:43,859
really positive vehicles this time around. The Cx

679
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,960
30 from Mazda,

680
00:23:45,453 --> 00:23:47,308
what a fun vehicle this is and

681
00:23:48,083 --> 00:23:49,039
the X 90,

682
00:23:49,597 --> 00:23:51,908
in this form in particular with all the

683
00:23:51,908 --> 00:23:54,000
horsepower with them all that kind of fun

684
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,359
with this luxury and certainly 90000 bucks a

685
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,519
lot of money, but this is a very

686
00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:02,015
full featured vehicle. So I certainly a player,

687
00:24:02,255 --> 00:24:05,214
I think, among the others, the Europeans and

688
00:24:05,615 --> 00:24:08,494
even the the Korean and and Japanese luxury

689
00:24:08,494 --> 00:24:08,654
brands.

690
00:24:09,627 --> 00:24:12,101
Agree. And when we come back, we will

691
00:24:12,101 --> 00:24:14,256
have a very special guest talking about a

692
00:24:14,256 --> 00:24:16,410
special person actually. Our special guest is learned.

693
00:24:16,664 --> 00:24:16,903
Fix.

694
00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:19,213
She is a member of North American car

695
00:24:19,213 --> 00:24:21,364
that your jury. She is known

696
00:24:22,081 --> 00:24:24,152
worldwide as the car coach. She probably seen

697
00:24:24,152 --> 00:24:26,793
her on Tv. I certainly have. And we're

698
00:24:26,793 --> 00:24:28,460
going to be talking about a a friend

699
00:24:28,460 --> 00:24:30,524
of ours who passed away recently, Paul Brian,

700
00:24:30,683 --> 00:24:32,826
he's another member of the jury and kind

701
00:24:32,826 --> 00:24:35,383
of a larger than life guy, both literally

702
00:24:35,383 --> 00:24:36,122
and figuratively.

703
00:24:36,654 --> 00:24:38,640
So we'll be talking about him and and

704
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,229
other things when we come back with Lauren

705
00:24:40,309 --> 00:24:42,078
F. So Stay with us for that and

706
00:24:42,078 --> 00:24:44,076
we'll be right back right here on America

707
00:24:44,076 --> 00:24:44,395
on the road.

708
00:24:52,074 --> 00:24:54,145
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709
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717
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718
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720
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721
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722
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723
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days, he's wanted. For the murder of a

724
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725
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a murder he didn't commit. The cops think

726
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727
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728
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729
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731
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732
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733
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740
00:26:07,027 --> 00:26:08,772
Look back to America on Road tempe b

741
00:26:08,772 --> 00:26:10,359
read back with whom we have a terrific

742
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,454
guess for you. An old friend, Lauren Fix

743
00:26:13,454 --> 00:26:15,623
is... The car coach among other things she's

744
00:26:15,623 --> 00:26:17,082
been on the show before. And

745
00:26:17,461 --> 00:26:19,378
it's always wonderful to have her on the

746
00:26:19,378 --> 00:26:20,178
show. Although,

747
00:26:20,897 --> 00:26:22,655
today, we're gonna talk about something with a,

748
00:26:23,228 --> 00:26:25,296
ting of sadness to us, but number 1,

749
00:26:25,455 --> 00:26:26,728
Lauren, thanks so much for being with us

750
00:26:26,807 --> 00:26:28,637
We appreciate it. It's always a pleasure, Jack.

751
00:26:28,796 --> 00:26:30,402
Thanks for having me back. Great to have

752
00:26:30,402 --> 00:26:32,652
you on the show. The ting of sadness

753
00:26:32,709 --> 00:26:33,584
comes because

754
00:26:34,538 --> 00:26:35,970
we've kind both lost a friend,

755
00:26:36,686 --> 00:26:37,497
very great recently.

756
00:26:38,213 --> 00:26:40,362
You've lost a partner as well, Paul Brian,

757
00:26:41,158 --> 00:26:43,307
real lu in the industry for years and

758
00:26:43,307 --> 00:26:44,182
years and years

759
00:26:44,660 --> 00:26:46,981
recently a radio voice that many people recognize

760
00:26:46,981 --> 00:26:50,004
recognized across the country left us a couple

761
00:26:50,004 --> 00:26:52,326
weeks ago or so now. And

762
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,028
you were very close with M course. You

763
00:26:55,028 --> 00:26:57,492
partnered with him in many, many projects,

764
00:26:58,366 --> 00:27:00,035
talk about him a little bit. Well, it's

765
00:27:00,035 --> 00:27:00,433
was funny

766
00:27:01,084 --> 00:27:02,754
My husband's paul too. I always say I'm

767
00:27:02,754 --> 00:27:04,504
appalled. My husband, my son, my son love,

768
00:27:04,743 --> 00:27:06,198
my trainer, my agent

769
00:27:06,573 --> 00:27:07,471
and my c

770
00:27:07,925 --> 00:27:09,436
was, I'm I'm all appalled.

771
00:27:10,169 --> 00:27:11,604
So we used to always laugh about that,

772
00:27:11,844 --> 00:27:11,923
But,

773
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,831
Paul was a very different guy. Many people

774
00:27:15,831 --> 00:27:17,507
in our industry met him when he was

775
00:27:17,507 --> 00:27:19,181
in charge of the Chicago auto show for

776
00:27:19,181 --> 00:27:20,868
20 years. And you had to go to

777
00:27:20,868 --> 00:27:22,857
the guy and the chair in the in

778
00:27:22,857 --> 00:27:25,164
the media lounge and and deal with him

779
00:27:25,164 --> 00:27:26,809
sort of, and you go in and ask

780
00:27:27,008 --> 00:27:29,236
through a passes for the lunch or the

781
00:27:29,236 --> 00:27:31,225
the breakfast, and you couldn't get them without

782
00:27:31,225 --> 00:27:32,657
clearing them with Paul Bryan.

783
00:27:33,214 --> 00:27:33,453
And,

784
00:27:34,344 --> 00:27:36,337
He he certain... That's how I first kinda

785
00:27:36,337 --> 00:27:37,294
met him, and he was a big guy

786
00:27:37,294 --> 00:27:39,047
at the time. He literally kind of sat

787
00:27:39,047 --> 00:27:40,881
in a throne. Right? I mean, he was

788
00:27:40,881 --> 00:27:43,285
on an elevated chair above the. Press room.

789
00:27:43,523 --> 00:27:45,266
I I always loved that. I mean, it

790
00:27:45,266 --> 00:27:47,564
was really king Paul. Yes. He was king

791
00:27:47,643 --> 00:27:49,386
Paul for sure. And... And he loved the

792
00:27:49,386 --> 00:27:49,624
whole...

793
00:27:50,434 --> 00:27:53,227
The image it created was, like, don't play

794
00:27:53,227 --> 00:27:54,983
with me. I'm in charge.

795
00:27:55,542 --> 00:27:57,457
And and I remember going up there to

796
00:27:57,457 --> 00:27:59,069
ask for tickets the first time. First time

797
00:27:59,149 --> 00:28:00,747
I was ever there. I got invited by

798
00:28:00,747 --> 00:28:02,665
1 of the brands they hosted us, and

799
00:28:02,665 --> 00:28:03,944
and it was my first time in the

800
00:28:04,103 --> 00:28:05,702
Chicago auto show. And I had to... They

801
00:28:05,702 --> 00:28:07,460
said, oh, go ask the Skype, Paul Brian

802
00:28:07,460 --> 00:28:09,069
for tickets. I, Don't even know this guy.

803
00:28:09,388 --> 00:28:11,381
And I remember going this big 400 pound

804
00:28:11,381 --> 00:28:13,214
guy was sitting in a chair, you know,

805
00:28:13,374 --> 00:28:15,287
elevated above the newsroom and Of, like, oh,

806
00:28:15,446 --> 00:28:17,220
boy. Tickets Oh, you know, and you have

807
00:28:17,220 --> 00:28:19,220
to kind of play the game, you know?

808
00:28:20,419 --> 00:28:22,900
I just need 1 ticket for breakfast and

809
00:28:22,900 --> 00:28:24,913
1 for lunch. You, it'll and he would

810
00:28:24,913 --> 00:28:26,588
always give you, like, a little a little

811
00:28:26,588 --> 00:28:29,003
dig, a little pawn stab just to see

812
00:28:29,142 --> 00:28:30,658
where you were if you were... If you

813
00:28:30,658 --> 00:28:32,348
had a good sense of humor month, if

814
00:28:32,348 --> 00:28:34,263
you were really a player who were you,

815
00:28:34,422 --> 00:28:35,858
And he kinda wanna get to know everyone.

816
00:28:36,416 --> 00:28:38,570
But he always had a a different approach

817
00:28:38,570 --> 00:28:39,766
thinks because you never knew where he was

818
00:28:39,766 --> 00:28:40,325
coming from.

819
00:28:41,202 --> 00:28:41,521
And

820
00:28:42,254 --> 00:28:44,251
So years later, Paul had lost a lot

821
00:28:44,251 --> 00:28:46,249
of weight. He decided to do that bypass

822
00:28:46,249 --> 00:28:48,406
surgery, and he'd lost a whole person of

823
00:28:48,406 --> 00:28:49,125
200 pounds.

824
00:28:49,858 --> 00:28:51,932
And I just kinda knew he was kinda

825
00:28:51,932 --> 00:28:53,846
stayed away from Asked him when I needed

826
00:28:53,846 --> 00:28:55,442
to. And we were sitting at an event

827
00:28:55,442 --> 00:28:57,436
in Las Vegas. We were Man aid bay.

828
00:28:57,595 --> 00:28:58,951
I think it was a ford event.

829
00:29:00,083 --> 00:29:01,200
It I don't know why it was there,

830
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,737
but it was. And

831
00:29:03,594 --> 00:29:05,110
we set it me, but I'm lust about

832
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:06,546
bed, but we sat next to each other,

833
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:08,238
why they were getting ready to do, like,

834
00:29:08,318 --> 00:29:08,978
an evening

835
00:29:09,437 --> 00:29:10,875
presentation. And he looked over at me and

836
00:29:10,875 --> 00:29:12,553
you said hi. And I'm, like, hello. Like,

837
00:29:12,712 --> 00:29:13,991
I had no idea who he was. We

838
00:29:13,991 --> 00:29:14,710
started talking,

839
00:29:15,282 --> 00:29:17,109
He said you have a dry partner. Now

840
00:29:17,109 --> 00:29:19,198
back in the day when I first joined

841
00:29:19,652 --> 00:29:21,661
as a as a journalist,

842
00:29:22,289 --> 00:29:23,647
you would go to events and there was

843
00:29:23,647 --> 00:29:26,124
circles. There was the old guys, which you

844
00:29:26,124 --> 00:29:27,482
could not break into that group. I don't

845
00:29:27,482 --> 00:29:29,731
if you remember that 2 chad. Like, those

846
00:29:29,731 --> 00:29:31,477
are the guys. You can't... They wrote for

847
00:29:31,477 --> 00:29:32,667
car driver road and track,

848
00:29:33,540 --> 00:29:36,159
automobiles, auto week. You could not approach them

849
00:29:36,159 --> 00:29:38,399
and have a car conversation. They would allow

850
00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:40,546
you into the conversation. And you kinda felt

851
00:29:40,546 --> 00:29:42,137
it more so than it was spoken.

852
00:29:42,693 --> 00:29:44,443
And I was the newbie. So I thought,

853
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,351
okay. You wanna ride together. Sure.

854
00:29:47,243 --> 00:29:49,077
We hit it off as fast friends,

855
00:29:49,795 --> 00:29:51,070
had a lot in common.

856
00:29:52,426 --> 00:29:54,101
And in years going on, we did a

857
00:29:54,101 --> 00:29:55,297
his turn and her. And that was the

858
00:29:55,297 --> 00:29:55,696
first 1.

859
00:29:56,906 --> 00:29:59,377
And we shop for over 10 years, his

860
00:29:59,377 --> 00:30:01,050
turn her segments, and then I found that

861
00:30:01,130 --> 00:30:02,325
Paul a massive foodie.

862
00:30:03,934 --> 00:30:05,526
So hence the fact that used to be

863
00:30:05,526 --> 00:30:07,437
before in pounds. And we did what the

864
00:30:07,437 --> 00:30:09,587
heck is polly. He would eat some of

865
00:30:09,587 --> 00:30:11,918
the worst foods that

866
00:30:12,309 --> 00:30:14,064
there's no way, Jack, You would even eat

867
00:30:14,064 --> 00:30:16,297
gas station. Sushi? No. No.

868
00:30:17,095 --> 00:30:18,451
Probably wise. This why I've lived to be

869
00:30:18,451 --> 00:30:19,966
as lie as old as I am. Right?

870
00:30:20,684 --> 00:30:23,089
Oh, that's true. But know, we we were

871
00:30:23,089 --> 00:30:24,996
an erie pennsylvania doing a drive for Nissan.

872
00:30:25,155 --> 00:30:27,460
We were driving from Chicago to New York

873
00:30:27,460 --> 00:30:28,811
for the auto show. It was the Nissan

874
00:30:28,891 --> 00:30:31,355
Rogue. It was called the Rogue trip. You

875
00:30:31,355 --> 00:30:33,118
know and it was put together by our

876
00:30:33,118 --> 00:30:34,787
friend Wendy Worth, and,

877
00:30:35,661 --> 00:30:37,648
we stopped in Erie Pennsylvania need to get

878
00:30:37,648 --> 00:30:38,681
gas. It's about an hour and a half

879
00:30:38,681 --> 00:30:39,873
from my house because I live in Buffalo,

880
00:30:40,032 --> 00:30:41,956
New York. And he he comes out of

881
00:30:41,956 --> 00:30:43,944
the gas station with this tree of. I'm

882
00:30:43,944 --> 00:30:44,024
like,

883
00:30:45,615 --> 00:30:47,604
I wouldn't need anything out of, like, Erie

884
00:30:47,604 --> 00:30:49,926
or lake Ontario for that matter. Probably glows

885
00:30:49,926 --> 00:30:51,597
in the dark, you know, they used to

886
00:30:51,597 --> 00:30:53,746
dump in those in those lakes. And even

887
00:30:53,746 --> 00:30:55,258
though they may have cleaned it up personally,

888
00:30:55,497 --> 00:30:57,248
I'm not eating out of those lakes. He

889
00:30:57,248 --> 00:30:59,414
says, oh, no. It's fresh. I'm, like, all

890
00:30:59,414 --> 00:31:00,313
there's no salmon

891
00:31:00,852 --> 00:31:03,030
anywhere with me. Right. Yeah. No

892
00:31:03,409 --> 00:31:06,766
in lake erie. Yeah. No. Nor nor anywhere

893
00:31:06,766 --> 00:31:08,019
near that there it would have to be

894
00:31:08,139 --> 00:31:09,809
blown in and I'm, like, I don't know.

895
00:31:10,365 --> 00:31:11,956
So he ate. He tried to get me

896
00:31:11,956 --> 00:31:14,341
a piece and I'm like, no way. But

897
00:31:14,341 --> 00:31:16,250
at that time, my daughter was riding with

898
00:31:16,250 --> 00:31:17,974
us. It was like A33 of us got

899
00:31:18,014 --> 00:31:20,168
to arrive together. And it it was fun,

900
00:31:21,204 --> 00:31:22,879
he became Uncle Paul to my kids.

901
00:31:24,395 --> 00:31:25,750
My son, Paul who rode with him when

902
00:31:25,910 --> 00:31:27,346
I couldn't would do it His turn his

903
00:31:27,346 --> 00:31:29,271
turn would we thought that this is hysterical.

904
00:31:30,544 --> 00:31:31,817
And then I would do it... If I

905
00:31:31,817 --> 00:31:34,045
couldn't go my daughter Shelby named after the

906
00:31:34,045 --> 00:31:35,795
cars, she would go. And and we had

907
00:31:35,795 --> 00:31:36,693
a great time

908
00:31:37,242 --> 00:31:38,594
we've been all over the world. We've been

909
00:31:38,594 --> 00:31:41,956
to Iceland together, Spain, Germany, Italy,

910
00:31:43,205 --> 00:31:43,705
Cor,

911
00:31:44,318 --> 00:31:46,306
you name it great all over the world.

912
00:31:47,918 --> 00:31:49,916
Driving cars. And the last time we drove

913
00:31:49,916 --> 00:31:52,073
together was in Spain. We drove the volvo

914
00:31:52,153 --> 00:31:53,512
Ex x 30. I think you were on

915
00:31:53,512 --> 00:31:56,080
that 30 Was. I had lunch with with

916
00:31:56,239 --> 00:31:58,461
Paul at that event and III remember it

917
00:31:58,540 --> 00:32:01,342
Fondly. Yes. He was always a great

918
00:32:01,715 --> 00:32:03,978
conversational us. And you never knew 1. Subject

919
00:32:04,037 --> 00:32:06,030
would be. And sometimes, he would make a

920
00:32:06,030 --> 00:32:07,567
subject that he knew

921
00:32:07,944 --> 00:32:10,098
would get you back on your heels because

922
00:32:10,098 --> 00:32:11,374
he wanted to hear what you had to

923
00:32:11,374 --> 00:32:13,404
say and he it was like just a

924
00:32:13,462 --> 00:32:15,377
conversation starter, but he would always, like, take

925
00:32:15,377 --> 00:32:17,711
the polar opposite intentionally. I just to see

926
00:32:18,009 --> 00:32:18,886
how you would react.

927
00:32:20,242 --> 00:32:22,236
He was... He was a great guy. III

928
00:32:22,236 --> 00:32:24,560
miss and dearly because we would always have

929
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,028
great conversations. Almost in a daily via text

930
00:32:27,028 --> 00:32:28,699
or, you know, what are we working on

931
00:32:28,699 --> 00:32:30,450
where we're going? You know, what wave are

932
00:32:30,450 --> 00:32:31,485
you on and so forth.

933
00:32:32,854 --> 00:32:34,931
He actually married my daughter her first time.

934
00:32:35,491 --> 00:32:37,248
He was if fishy... The issue.

935
00:32:38,686 --> 00:32:39,965
He was at the second way. We'd didn't

936
00:32:39,965 --> 00:32:41,018
let him do it we figured it after

937
00:32:41,018 --> 00:32:42,534
the first time, You didn't have good looks.

938
00:32:42,693 --> 00:32:45,087
Yeah. Yeah. It didn't take so let's try

939
00:32:45,087 --> 00:32:47,002
some the else. Right. Yeah. So she got

940
00:32:47,002 --> 00:32:48,931
rem remarried after my son... The second wedding.

941
00:32:49,726 --> 00:32:51,556
And they're very happy then On may have

942
00:32:51,556 --> 00:32:52,431
a daughter named Sen,

943
00:32:53,147 --> 00:32:54,976
after Art sent of the Famous 1 driver,

944
00:32:55,215 --> 00:32:57,694
the but Paul's history is is quite different

945
00:32:57,694 --> 00:33:00,078
than most of us. He worked for the

946
00:33:00,237 --> 00:33:02,383
Indy car team for El Romeo.

947
00:33:02,860 --> 00:33:04,052
So he lived in Milan.

948
00:33:05,023 --> 00:33:06,698
And he got a great opportunity, which I

949
00:33:06,698 --> 00:33:08,772
think most of us would jump on. If

950
00:33:08,772 --> 00:33:10,367
someone called me and said he listen. Do

951
00:33:10,367 --> 00:33:12,201
you wanna do P for a race team

952
00:33:12,201 --> 00:33:14,275
for Indy car and in live in Milan,

953
00:33:14,609 --> 00:33:16,289
Yeah. Where am I going? I'd tell my

954
00:33:16,289 --> 00:33:17,890
husband, you you know where to find me.

955
00:33:19,410 --> 00:33:20,929
And he did that for quite a while.

956
00:33:21,250 --> 00:33:22,609
You think the team lasted for 3 or

957
00:33:22,609 --> 00:33:23,009
4 years.

958
00:33:23,825 --> 00:33:25,744
But he would say the team was not

959
00:33:25,744 --> 00:33:27,904
so great, but the food was fabulous. Yeah.

960
00:33:28,225 --> 00:33:28,965
Exactly. But

961
00:33:29,345 --> 00:33:31,105
but he learned how to cook Italian, and

962
00:33:31,105 --> 00:33:32,638
so we went to me milan for for

963
00:33:32,638 --> 00:33:34,469
me a museum. He took me to some

964
00:33:34,469 --> 00:33:36,140
of his old places including, he said let

965
00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:37,413
me show you where my old office used

966
00:33:37,413 --> 00:33:39,164
to be. There was a museum there. It

967
00:33:39,164 --> 00:33:40,850
was all new, And he shows me he

968
00:33:40,850 --> 00:33:43,714
goes, oh, my office isn't here anymore. I

969
00:33:43,714 --> 00:33:45,543
said, oh, he goes it's the men's room.

970
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:47,109
Accent, I guess that's

971
00:33:47,547 --> 00:33:49,215
It tells you something. Right? That's how they

972
00:33:49,215 --> 00:33:51,282
treat. Did something about your thoughts of your

973
00:33:51,282 --> 00:33:52,076
work there. Yeah.

974
00:33:53,109 --> 00:33:54,540
But, you know, he he ran the drive

975
00:33:54,778 --> 00:33:56,105
Chicago if for listening and you're in the

976
00:33:56,224 --> 00:33:58,222
Chicago area you've heard Paul on Drive Chicago.

977
00:33:58,861 --> 00:34:00,299
He was a very proud veteran in the

978
00:34:00,539 --> 00:34:01,977
Us Army. He was first cab.

979
00:34:02,696 --> 00:34:04,624
He was the director of armed forces radio

980
00:34:04,624 --> 00:34:07,090
and television network in Panama in the Panama

981
00:34:07,090 --> 00:34:09,716
canal. So he would always have interesting stories

982
00:34:09,716 --> 00:34:11,466
and stories that I would let him tell

983
00:34:11,466 --> 00:34:13,394
it was Vietnam. I don't ever I ask

984
00:34:13,474 --> 00:34:14,432
I let him offer.

985
00:34:15,631 --> 00:34:17,628
Just out of respect and he also was

986
00:34:17,628 --> 00:34:19,786
a big supporter of the Lng Lynch medal

987
00:34:19,786 --> 00:34:20,480
of honor

988
00:34:21,076 --> 00:34:22,665
foundation where he was helping other veterans with

989
00:34:22,983 --> 00:34:23,460
Ptsd,

990
00:34:24,175 --> 00:34:26,162
getting jobs coming back even today,

991
00:34:26,957 --> 00:34:29,199
they they were having with a transition back

992
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,301
to regular life, they would, help them financially,

993
00:34:32,460 --> 00:34:34,130
whether it be for a car or home

994
00:34:34,130 --> 00:34:35,005
or education,

995
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,406
just to get them back on and that

996
00:34:37,406 --> 00:34:38,516
was a big part of what he loved

997
00:34:38,516 --> 00:34:40,737
to do. And, you know, he doesn't want

998
00:34:40,737 --> 00:34:42,721
flowers or he doesn't want cards. And in

999
00:34:42,721 --> 00:34:45,115
much Paul fashion, he wants a donation to

1000
00:34:45,115 --> 00:34:46,409
the Ellen Lynch Medal

1001
00:34:46,940 --> 00:34:47,098
Foundation,

1002
00:34:47,891 --> 00:34:49,161
and were both a member of the North

1003
00:34:49,319 --> 00:34:51,143
American current truck of the year jury, and

1004
00:34:51,143 --> 00:34:52,826
they did give a very nice donation and

1005
00:34:52,826 --> 00:34:55,686
his honor. We appreciate that. Yeah. Terrific Terrific.

1006
00:34:55,925 --> 00:34:57,037
I don't know whether you knew this or

1007
00:34:57,037 --> 00:34:58,626
not Lauren, but, he and I went to

1008
00:34:58,626 --> 00:34:59,500
high school together.

1009
00:35:00,235 --> 00:35:02,394
And really. Well, maybe we were buds. We

1010
00:35:02,394 --> 00:35:04,315
weren't exactly. He was a year older than

1011
00:35:04,394 --> 00:35:06,715
I was. And our high school was gigantic...

1012
00:35:07,114 --> 00:35:10,024
Am I graduating class, with 1400 kids. So

1013
00:35:10,401 --> 00:35:12,951
Wow. That's a lot of folks. Right? So

1014
00:35:12,951 --> 00:35:14,624
what I can do it 300. I thought

1015
00:35:14,624 --> 00:35:16,234
that was a lot. Yeah. It was we

1016
00:35:16,234 --> 00:35:18,630
didn't run. We probably ran into each other

1017
00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:20,708
a few times during high school, but I

1018
00:35:20,708 --> 00:35:22,840
don't know that we we hung together, but

1019
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:24,952
Then, you know, years later when we met

1020
00:35:24,952 --> 00:35:27,582
as as car journalists, we realized we had

1021
00:35:27,582 --> 00:35:29,176
this in common and then we grew up

1022
00:35:29,176 --> 00:35:30,770
essentially in the same town and all that

1023
00:35:30,770 --> 00:35:32,463
kind of stuff. So We shared a lot,

1024
00:35:32,862 --> 00:35:35,420
you know, a lot of similar experiences, similar

1025
00:35:35,420 --> 00:35:36,938
views, all of that kind of stuff. And

1026
00:35:36,938 --> 00:35:38,775
what it... It kind of exe exemplified I

1027
00:35:38,775 --> 00:35:40,408
think is stuff the cam

1028
00:35:40,863 --> 00:35:43,091
that auto journalists have,

1029
00:35:44,603 --> 00:35:46,274
kind of unseen by a lot of people,

1030
00:35:46,433 --> 00:35:49,893
it isn't necessarily advertised necessarily, but we travel

1031
00:35:49,952 --> 00:35:51,467
together. We spend a lot of time together.

1032
00:35:51,626 --> 00:35:54,418
We see each other frequently. And mostly we

1033
00:35:54,418 --> 00:35:54,897
get along.

1034
00:35:55,614 --> 00:35:58,007
Sometimes we don't. See. Yeah. There's a few

1035
00:35:58,007 --> 00:36:00,255
things. The stories in come around. But I

1036
00:36:00,415 --> 00:36:01,611
I have to say it's 1 thing about

1037
00:36:01,611 --> 00:36:03,764
the auto industry in general, whether you're working

1038
00:36:03,764 --> 00:36:05,518
at a dealership level or you're working as

1039
00:36:05,518 --> 00:36:07,454
a journalist or you're working on the a

1040
00:36:07,512 --> 00:36:09,761
manufacturer side. Come that it is a family,

1041
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,474
and you're accepted into the family, and we

1042
00:36:12,474 --> 00:36:14,628
know some people are really different. Some people

1043
00:36:14,628 --> 00:36:15,766
aren't, but

1044
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:16,960
all my friends.

1045
00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:19,359
You know, Javier or in ale.

1046
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,799
They're Latinos. They're, like, my best buds.

1047
00:36:23,929 --> 00:36:25,599
I'm might gonna be traveling to Korea with

1048
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:27,588
Brian Arms instead. I mean, the all the

1049
00:36:27,588 --> 00:36:29,577
jury has been come a big family as

1050
00:36:29,577 --> 00:36:32,288
well. And it comes along with family issues

1051
00:36:32,288 --> 00:36:34,745
as well. But Right. I think, you know,

1052
00:36:34,983 --> 00:36:36,568
you've worked in the industry longer than I

1053
00:36:36,568 --> 00:36:38,249
haven't... You know that... People you've worked with

1054
00:36:38,249 --> 00:36:39,758
and all the different outlets that you work

1055
00:36:39,758 --> 00:36:41,823
for now or in the past, but you

1056
00:36:41,823 --> 00:36:43,967
still talk to these people. You still not

1057
00:36:43,967 --> 00:36:46,366
just Facebook Instagram and all, but you you

1058
00:36:46,366 --> 00:36:47,798
see them, you give them a hug. It's

1059
00:36:47,798 --> 00:36:50,503
like, we're friends. And it... It's... We're like

1060
00:36:50,503 --> 00:36:52,491
the traveling circus. That's what my husband says.

1061
00:36:53,063 --> 00:36:55,713
He says, where's the traveling circus going now

1062
00:36:56,088 --> 00:36:57,840
because, literally, we all go there. We set

1063
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,352
up We haven't event that we all tear

1064
00:36:59,352 --> 00:37:00,626
down and we all get back.

1065
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:02,789
We all go several ways and then we

1066
00:37:02,789 --> 00:37:03,266
recon.

1067
00:37:03,902 --> 00:37:06,367
So it... That's... It is unspoken, but it...

1068
00:37:06,525 --> 00:37:08,036
It's... It is something that you don't see

1069
00:37:08,036 --> 00:37:10,201
in other industries. I mean, you don't see

1070
00:37:10,201 --> 00:37:12,830
that in, you know, Home and garden. You

1071
00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:15,062
don't see that in other industries, automotive is

1072
00:37:15,062 --> 00:37:17,945
very specific. Right. Right. 1 of the things

1073
00:37:17,945 --> 00:37:19,937
too that we share is we've lost a

1074
00:37:19,937 --> 00:37:22,247
partner now. You've lost a partner recently. I

1075
00:37:22,247 --> 00:37:24,318
lost a partner and Mike Hanson, I did

1076
00:37:24,478 --> 00:37:26,172
America on the road with Mike for

1077
00:37:26,965 --> 00:37:29,684
about 20 years, 25 years before he passed.

1078
00:37:30,324 --> 00:37:30,485
And,

1079
00:37:31,204 --> 00:37:32,405
I'll tell you it was tough to get

1080
00:37:32,405 --> 00:37:34,965
by, and I I probably don't talk about

1081
00:37:35,045 --> 00:37:36,817
Mike enough. On America on the road. He

1082
00:37:36,817 --> 00:37:38,653
was instrumental in bringing me aboard,

1083
00:37:39,291 --> 00:37:40,808
America on the road in the nineties,

1084
00:37:41,686 --> 00:37:42,724
very early nineties.

1085
00:37:43,283 --> 00:37:46,489
So technology has changed. Yeah. I what's what's

1086
00:37:46,489 --> 00:37:47,844
your sense of all that? Or what what's

1087
00:37:47,844 --> 00:37:50,077
your sense of working with a partner to

1088
00:37:50,077 --> 00:37:51,751
tell us about that? I knew like as

1089
00:37:51,751 --> 00:37:54,318
well, a really great guy. And But I

1090
00:37:54,318 --> 00:37:55,913
think when you find a partner, you you

1091
00:37:55,913 --> 00:37:57,109
find, like, a best friend.

1092
00:37:58,385 --> 00:38:00,617
Paul was the brother. I always wanted. I

1093
00:38:00,777 --> 00:38:01,893
I don't have a brother. I don't have

1094
00:38:01,893 --> 00:38:03,663
a sister, so it was, like, it was

1095
00:38:03,663 --> 00:38:05,999
nice to have someone who you could bounce

1096
00:38:06,058 --> 00:38:07,814
ideas off of when I said, hey. I

1097
00:38:07,814 --> 00:38:10,289
wanna run for president of North American car

1098
00:38:10,289 --> 00:38:11,646
and truck of the year awards, and he

1099
00:38:11,646 --> 00:38:11,805
said,

1100
00:38:12,539 --> 00:38:14,859
Okay? Let's do it. And that's what a

1101
00:38:14,859 --> 00:38:17,119
brother would do. You know, you become

1102
00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:17,900
family.

1103
00:38:18,539 --> 00:38:20,460
His family is really good friends of my

1104
00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:22,945
family. Today, we I talked to his daughter

1105
00:38:22,945 --> 00:38:24,692
and he's... He's got an only child a

1106
00:38:24,692 --> 00:38:26,621
daughter and a granddaughter. And so

1107
00:38:26,995 --> 00:38:28,504
I still talk to them as well. My

1108
00:38:28,504 --> 00:38:30,980
kids talked to them. And And you start

1109
00:38:30,980 --> 00:38:32,410
extending the family and when you ride with

1110
00:38:32,410 --> 00:38:33,601
someone you get in Mac car, it's like,

1111
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,221
you restart your conversation from the last time

1112
00:38:36,221 --> 00:38:38,064
you rode together. I'm sure you in... And

1113
00:38:38,064 --> 00:38:39,982
mike did the same thing. You... You just

1114
00:38:39,982 --> 00:38:41,180
start... Okay. What do you think of this

1115
00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:43,098
car? You banter a little bit. You may

1116
00:38:43,098 --> 00:38:44,616
be bark at each other a little bit,

1117
00:38:44,776 --> 00:38:46,708
they're ties paul park. At me and I

1118
00:38:46,708 --> 00:38:47,905
parked at him where, you know we're having

1119
00:38:47,905 --> 00:38:50,380
a bad day. But that's true with with

1120
00:38:50,380 --> 00:38:52,057
people that you work with too, and I

1121
00:38:52,217 --> 00:38:54,213
I think that what makes it special, Paula

1122
00:38:54,213 --> 00:38:55,410
and Were able to put it on tape.

1123
00:38:55,823 --> 00:38:57,652
So on my car coach reports channel. There

1124
00:38:57,652 --> 00:38:58,844
is his turn her turn,

1125
00:38:59,798 --> 00:39:02,183
car reviews, There's also... If you go to

1126
00:39:02,183 --> 00:39:03,773
the website, history and her turn, which I

1127
00:39:03,773 --> 00:39:05,855
will leave up in his honor. There is

1128
00:39:05,855 --> 00:39:07,526
what is Paul eating if you need a

1129
00:39:07,526 --> 00:39:09,992
laugh. You're like, I had enough. The things

1130
00:39:09,992 --> 00:39:12,060
he would do and say, I don't know

1131
00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:13,664
where is just like v bill. I don't

1132
00:39:13,664 --> 00:39:16,686
know where... K. Was always clean, but it

1133
00:39:16,686 --> 00:39:18,673
was... I can't believe you're eating that and

1134
00:39:18,673 --> 00:39:21,319
just things... Then 1 time he made me

1135
00:39:21,455 --> 00:39:23,867
right. Something? Because usually, I was the filming

1136
00:39:23,867 --> 00:39:25,785
person. I'm, like, what are you eating? And

1137
00:39:25,785 --> 00:39:27,143
that's how I'll start like, what are you

1138
00:39:27,143 --> 00:39:29,061
eating? Like, he need to sleeve up oreos

1139
00:39:29,061 --> 00:39:30,989
in the car I'm like, what I can't

1140
00:39:30,989 --> 00:39:32,976
film if you're are you're crunching, and you

1141
00:39:32,976 --> 00:39:35,121
would always find the wack food around the

1142
00:39:35,121 --> 00:39:37,824
world, like, something in hawaii was spam on

1143
00:39:37,824 --> 00:39:39,096
a piece of rice. I'm, like,

1144
00:39:40,465 --> 00:39:42,138
He said it was. Like this spam over

1145
00:39:42,138 --> 00:39:44,210
in Hawaii. It's good stuff God.

1146
00:39:45,006 --> 00:39:47,092
But and when we come back we'll have

1147
00:39:47,092 --> 00:39:49,083
more with Lauren Fix, the car coach as

1148
00:39:49,083 --> 00:39:51,233
we talk about our friend Paul Brian, so

1149
00:39:51,233 --> 00:39:51,632
stay with us.

1150
00:39:55,215 --> 00:39:55,349
I

1151
00:39:57,306 --> 00:39:58,663
Welcome back to America on the road with

1152
00:39:58,742 --> 00:40:00,898
C Chris Tit with Jack red with you.

1153
00:40:01,057 --> 00:40:03,373
And with us is our special guest this

1154
00:40:03,373 --> 00:40:04,945
week Lauren Fix, the car code

1155
00:40:05,625 --> 00:40:07,864
We're talking about our our friend Paul Brian,

1156
00:40:08,025 --> 00:40:09,065
who passed away recently.

1157
00:40:09,545 --> 00:40:09,785
Lauren,

1158
00:40:10,505 --> 00:40:12,824
Paul was just something wasn't he. It became

1159
00:40:12,824 --> 00:40:13,945
interesting because as a partner.

1160
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,639
In driving as a friend,

1161
00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:17,719
it's things that I would do he would

1162
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,239
come to the races when my husband and

1163
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,159
I were racing at Road America, which Paul

1164
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:22,760
was the voice of Road America he announced

1165
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,559
there for many years.

1166
00:40:24,855 --> 00:40:26,855
Or car show, he would show up.

1167
00:40:27,894 --> 00:40:29,255
He was at We have a 4 Gt.

1168
00:40:29,414 --> 00:40:30,775
He was here for the delivery of that.

1169
00:40:30,934 --> 00:40:31,894
So it was like the delivery of a

1170
00:40:31,894 --> 00:40:32,135
baby.

1171
00:40:33,428 --> 00:40:34,944
I'm I'm a judge for the Chicken wing

1172
00:40:35,024 --> 00:40:37,099
Festival Yes because I live in Buffalo. I've

1173
00:40:37,099 --> 00:40:38,536
been doing it for years. 1 year he

1174
00:40:38,536 --> 00:40:39,814
came here, and he got to try the

1175
00:40:39,814 --> 00:40:41,704
wings that was, like, heaven for him. I

1176
00:40:41,744 --> 00:40:42,864
when you have a partner and you do

1177
00:40:42,864 --> 00:40:44,545
so much get together it, it's just it's

1178
00:40:44,545 --> 00:40:46,785
a big loss. It's like losing a family

1179
00:40:46,785 --> 00:40:48,864
member because they kind of have. Yeah. And

1180
00:40:48,864 --> 00:40:50,638
this thing came suddenly, at least it was

1181
00:40:50,638 --> 00:40:53,114
sudden to me. I I had no inclination

1182
00:40:53,114 --> 00:40:54,952
that he was ill or that anything was

1183
00:40:54,952 --> 00:40:56,710
wrong. I wasn't allowed to say anything. Yeah.

1184
00:40:56,789 --> 00:40:58,958
It But when you saw him in September

1185
00:40:58,958 --> 00:41:00,872
in Spain, he was struggling. He had had

1186
00:41:00,872 --> 00:41:01,032
some,

1187
00:41:01,989 --> 00:41:03,823
back pain and he had a across... A

1188
00:41:03,823 --> 00:41:05,737
procedure done so that he could travel, and

1189
00:41:05,737 --> 00:41:06,590
that was his last

1190
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:08,710
road trip shall we say?

1191
00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:11,750
What ill? What a great partner to you,

1192
00:41:11,989 --> 00:41:13,829
Lauren, and Lauren F. Thanks so much for

1193
00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:15,678
being with us. We really appreciate it for

1194
00:41:15,678 --> 00:41:17,822
sharing these stories about our friend, Paul, Paul

1195
00:41:17,981 --> 00:41:21,001
Brian. So... Anytime. Thanks so much. Rest and

1196
00:41:21,001 --> 00:41:22,844
peace, Paul. Yeah. Through Thank you. And that

1197
00:41:22,844 --> 00:41:24,675
was our interview with Lauren Fix, the car

1198
00:41:24,675 --> 00:41:26,664
coach as we remember our good friend and

1199
00:41:26,664 --> 00:41:28,494
fellow North American car that your jury member,

1200
00:41:28,653 --> 00:41:31,143
Paul Bryant. And that basically wraps up our

1201
00:41:31,143 --> 00:41:32,900
show for this week before we go, I'd

1202
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:34,499
like to mention my newest book Dance in

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1234
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another addition of a Erica on the road.

1235
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Erica I'd like to tell you about the

1236
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1238
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1239
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1240
00:42:58,889 --> 00:43:01,119
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1241
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:02,554
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1242
00:43:02,872 --> 00:43:05,762
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1243
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1244
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1245
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1246
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1250
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He traveled from brands hatch to mon, the

1251
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1252
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1253
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1254
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1255
00:43:31,276 --> 00:43:33,022
The racing was blinding fast,

1256
00:43:33,577 --> 00:43:36,537
driving horrific fragile cars at those speeds took

1257
00:43:36,592 --> 00:43:39,210
unheard of courage. That was around every corner,

1258
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1259
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1260
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1261
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