1 00:00:01,919 --> 00:00:04,419 This is where health care leadership comes together. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,679 Becker's sixteenth annual meeting brings more than 3,500 3 00:00:07,679 --> 00:00:10,800 hospital and health system executives and nearly 800 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:11,939 speakers to Chicago, 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,344 April 13 through the sixteenth. This year's event 6 00:00:15,344 --> 00:00:18,385 includes keynote conversations with Dallas Cowboys legend Troy 7 00:00:18,385 --> 00:00:21,425 Aikman and former president George w Bush. For 8 00:00:21,425 --> 00:00:25,184 the agenda and event details, visit beckershospitalreview.com 9 00:00:25,184 --> 00:00:26,864 and click on the events tab in the 10 00:00:26,864 --> 00:00:29,425 upper right. We're looking forward to hosting you 11 00:00:29,425 --> 00:00:30,390 in Chicago. 12 00:00:31,649 --> 00:00:34,609 This is Scott Becker with the Beckers Health 13 00:00:34,609 --> 00:00:35,350 Care Podcast. 14 00:00:36,049 --> 00:00:38,129 Thrilled today to be joined by somebody who's 15 00:00:38,129 --> 00:00:39,989 an example to me, who's an inspiring 16 00:00:40,369 --> 00:00:40,869 surgeon, 17 00:00:41,489 --> 00:00:44,469 a leading hip replacement surgeon in the country, 18 00:00:45,314 --> 00:00:48,434 certainly the best regarded in our area. We're 19 00:00:48,434 --> 00:00:50,375 talking to doctor Ravi Basial. 20 00:00:50,754 --> 00:00:52,835 Doctor Basial is the leader of the hip 21 00:00:52,835 --> 00:00:55,814 sort of program hip replacement at the Endeavor, 22 00:00:56,674 --> 00:00:59,734 Orthopedic and Spine Institute in Skokie, Illinois. 23 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:02,700 They've built a hospital around orthopedics. Just done 24 00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:04,479 a tremendous job at that institute. 25 00:01:05,180 --> 00:01:07,500 Ravi, doctor Bashel, can you take a moment 26 00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:09,739 and introduce yourself? Then I'd love to touch 27 00:01:09,739 --> 00:01:12,060 on today, what are you most focused on? 28 00:01:12,060 --> 00:01:14,140 What are you most excited about this year? 29 00:01:14,380 --> 00:01:17,465 You've got tremendous positivity, which I love, but 30 00:01:17,465 --> 00:01:19,305 but take a moment and introduce yourself to 31 00:01:19,305 --> 00:01:19,965 the audience. 32 00:01:20,584 --> 00:01:22,265 Thanks, Scott. It's great to be with you 33 00:01:22,265 --> 00:01:24,204 as always. And, you know, what's really energizing 34 00:01:24,265 --> 00:01:25,864 me right now is seeing how we're able 35 00:01:25,864 --> 00:01:28,689 to combine advanced surgical care with a system 36 00:01:28,689 --> 00:01:31,409 level focus on access and recovery, and the 37 00:01:31,409 --> 00:01:33,569 results for our patients have been really exciting. 38 00:01:33,810 --> 00:01:36,069 By way of introduction, I'm I'm Ravi Bashal. 39 00:01:36,290 --> 00:01:38,930 I'm an orthopedic surgeon focused on minimally invasive 40 00:01:38,930 --> 00:01:39,989 hip and knee replacement, 41 00:01:40,370 --> 00:01:42,450 and I work with the orthopedic team, here 42 00:01:42,450 --> 00:01:44,851 at Endeavor Health. And my work kinda sits 43 00:01:44,851 --> 00:01:47,463 at the intersection of high quality surgical care, 44 00:01:47,463 --> 00:01:50,075 innovation, and improving access for patients across our 45 00:01:50,075 --> 00:01:52,688 our community, especially as Endeavor continues to grow 46 00:01:52,688 --> 00:01:55,300 and really working through a a way to 47 00:01:55,300 --> 00:01:57,799 innovate and standardize care across the system, but 48 00:01:57,799 --> 00:01:59,640 remain close enough to a community to stay 49 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,640 very patient centered. So that's sort of the 50 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,400 background of of of who I am and 51 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,619 and what we're working on. 52 00:02:05,479 --> 00:02:06,299 The orthopedic 53 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,139 hospital that Endeavor 54 00:02:08,439 --> 00:02:08,939 built 55 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,560 that you helped lead with some other great 56 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,455 leaders is become the busiest orthopedic place for 57 00:02:14,455 --> 00:02:14,955 surgery 58 00:02:15,334 --> 00:02:16,555 in the state of Illinois 59 00:02:16,854 --> 00:02:19,034 just over a a a really a short 60 00:02:19,094 --> 00:02:21,495 five to ten years, it feels like. Talk 61 00:02:21,495 --> 00:02:23,414 a little bit about that evolution and how 62 00:02:23,414 --> 00:02:25,814 that happened that it became about the busiest 63 00:02:25,814 --> 00:02:28,490 place for hips and knees and orthopedics in 64 00:02:28,490 --> 00:02:29,069 the state. 65 00:02:29,689 --> 00:02:31,150 Talk about that a little bit. 66 00:02:31,930 --> 00:02:34,669 Thanks, Scott. Yeah. I'm certainly very excited, 67 00:02:35,050 --> 00:02:35,530 about, 68 00:02:35,849 --> 00:02:37,629 the growth that we've seen in our orthopedic 69 00:02:37,689 --> 00:02:39,310 hospital and the work that remains, 70 00:02:39,930 --> 00:02:42,414 to be done. In terms of, I think, 71 00:02:42,414 --> 00:02:44,495 how we got there, I think it's really 72 00:02:44,495 --> 00:02:44,995 about 73 00:02:45,375 --> 00:02:47,155 putting the patient at the center. 74 00:02:48,014 --> 00:02:50,175 What really excites me the most is seeing 75 00:02:50,175 --> 00:02:53,455 how operational excellence and human centered care don't 76 00:02:53,455 --> 00:02:55,615 compete. They actually reinforce each other. And I 77 00:02:55,615 --> 00:02:56,594 think that's been 78 00:02:57,159 --> 00:02:59,159 a core culture for us as we've worked 79 00:02:59,159 --> 00:03:01,239 through this journey in our hospital. And and 80 00:03:01,239 --> 00:03:02,299 I really kinda 81 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:04,860 love the story of of where we started, 82 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,860 where we are now, and and, frankly, 83 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:09,400 where we're where we're going. We've been really 84 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,344 focused on improving the patient journey from education 85 00:03:12,344 --> 00:03:15,564 before surgery to smoother pathways after surgery, 86 00:03:16,025 --> 00:03:18,424 understanding how technology and best in class, 87 00:03:18,824 --> 00:03:21,944 you know, care, both from a surgical standpoint, 88 00:03:21,944 --> 00:03:23,405 technology standpoint, implant 89 00:03:23,930 --> 00:03:26,090 standpoint, all come together. And and for me, 90 00:03:26,090 --> 00:03:28,750 this culture is the multiplier, and the technology 91 00:03:28,889 --> 00:03:30,409 and the and and the techniques that we 92 00:03:30,409 --> 00:03:32,030 use just amplifies it. 93 00:03:33,210 --> 00:03:35,370 Fantastic. And and and talk you mentioned a 94 00:03:35,370 --> 00:03:36,270 little bit about 95 00:03:37,125 --> 00:03:38,504 trying to system wide 96 00:03:39,125 --> 00:03:40,025 way of care 97 00:03:40,884 --> 00:03:41,704 for orthopedics, 98 00:03:42,485 --> 00:03:44,584 almost like the hospital for special surgery. 99 00:03:45,044 --> 00:03:46,664 Talk about that thought process 100 00:03:47,125 --> 00:03:49,764 of taking what's going great. I think 7,000 101 00:03:49,764 --> 00:03:52,530 plus procedures a year being done now at 102 00:03:52,530 --> 00:03:53,909 the orthopedic hospital. 103 00:03:54,689 --> 00:03:57,090 Talk about how you make that system wide 104 00:03:57,090 --> 00:03:58,870 across a larger system 105 00:03:59,169 --> 00:04:01,729 with yes. Focus in orthopedics and spine, particularly 106 00:04:01,729 --> 00:04:04,209 the higher acuity cases where you're at. But 107 00:04:04,209 --> 00:04:05,650 how do you turn that into a system 108 00:04:05,650 --> 00:04:06,389 of care, 109 00:04:06,930 --> 00:04:09,185 so ultimately, you know, play at the same 110 00:04:09,185 --> 00:04:11,025 level as the hospital for special surgery and 111 00:04:11,025 --> 00:04:12,944 places like that? Yeah. I mean, this is 112 00:04:12,944 --> 00:04:15,185 a question of scale. And so what we 113 00:04:15,185 --> 00:04:17,345 really try to focus on when we when 114 00:04:17,345 --> 00:04:19,904 we started here, was, as I said, putting 115 00:04:19,904 --> 00:04:21,824 that patient journey at the center, making sure 116 00:04:21,824 --> 00:04:23,319 that we have the best team members, the 117 00:04:23,319 --> 00:04:23,819 best, 118 00:04:24,199 --> 00:04:25,899 you know, the best surgeons, the best anesthesiologists, 119 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:27,879 the best nurses, the best therapists, the best 120 00:04:27,879 --> 00:04:28,379 administrators. 121 00:04:28,759 --> 00:04:31,319 So we kinda started with this mindset of 122 00:04:31,319 --> 00:04:33,879 of of having a small core group that 123 00:04:33,879 --> 00:04:36,120 provided great quality with the patient at the 124 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,444 center. Okay? That's really where we started. And 125 00:04:38,444 --> 00:04:41,245 then as that began to earn trust within 126 00:04:41,245 --> 00:04:43,504 the community and the system, as patients began, 127 00:04:43,964 --> 00:04:45,725 to really put their faith into what we 128 00:04:45,725 --> 00:04:48,044 were doing, the idea became the the the 129 00:04:48,044 --> 00:04:50,365 thought became, how do we now amplify and 130 00:04:50,365 --> 00:04:53,680 and and grow this? And really in orthopedics 131 00:04:53,899 --> 00:04:56,720 is is a lot like aviation where pathways, 132 00:04:57,180 --> 00:04:58,560 protocols, and standardization 133 00:04:59,180 --> 00:05:01,580 can go a long way. The the the 134 00:05:01,580 --> 00:05:02,080 potential 135 00:05:02,540 --> 00:05:03,439 risk is 136 00:05:04,134 --> 00:05:05,895 if you forget that the patient is at 137 00:05:05,895 --> 00:05:07,975 the middle of that. And so what we 138 00:05:07,975 --> 00:05:10,074 really have focused on is understanding 139 00:05:10,615 --> 00:05:11,115 that 140 00:05:11,975 --> 00:05:15,175 health systems are moving towards standardizing pathways, not 141 00:05:15,175 --> 00:05:16,395 to reduce individuality, 142 00:05:17,014 --> 00:05:19,834 but to reduce unnecessary variation. And 143 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,319 it does not have to be impersonal. Scale 144 00:05:22,319 --> 00:05:24,180 does not have to be impersonal because 145 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,379 when we support our patients and our teams, 146 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,840 best outcomes come from this sort of culture 147 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:31,379 as much as surgical technique, 148 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,600 as much as, you know, the data driven 149 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,295 science that we use. It's all of these 150 00:05:35,295 --> 00:05:37,455 things coming together. And what we found is 151 00:05:37,455 --> 00:05:39,935 it really has some exponential growth, when you 152 00:05:39,935 --> 00:05:41,375 put all those things kind of into the 153 00:05:41,375 --> 00:05:43,055 pot. And as you said, we have the 154 00:05:43,055 --> 00:05:44,435 busiest single hospital, 155 00:05:45,055 --> 00:05:47,215 in the state of Illinois for orthopedic procedures. 156 00:05:47,215 --> 00:05:49,160 We do more total joint replacements, hip and 157 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,180 knee replacements out of that single center, 158 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,639 than any other hospital in the state. And 159 00:05:53,639 --> 00:05:55,000 we're and we're really proud of that because 160 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,759 we're not just pumping out a lot of 161 00:05:56,759 --> 00:05:59,240 total joints. We're providing high quality care that 162 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:00,620 our patients are really appreciating. 163 00:06:01,134 --> 00:06:02,975 You know, our outpatient joint program is an 164 00:06:02,975 --> 00:06:04,654 example of that. There's just a lot of, 165 00:06:05,055 --> 00:06:07,615 a lot of amplification that's happened when you 166 00:06:07,615 --> 00:06:09,375 start with this core culture and put this 167 00:06:09,375 --> 00:06:10,915 patient journey at the center. 168 00:06:12,495 --> 00:06:15,339 Thank you. And and talk about your own 169 00:06:15,339 --> 00:06:15,839 specialty. 170 00:06:16,539 --> 00:06:18,319 I I know you've become this 171 00:06:18,699 --> 00:06:21,579 incredible sort of beacon of hip replacement in 172 00:06:21,579 --> 00:06:22,319 our area. 173 00:06:22,620 --> 00:06:24,539 I mean, I mean, I'm I'm a little 174 00:06:24,539 --> 00:06:26,379 bit, I think my mother won't be upset 175 00:06:26,379 --> 00:06:28,479 with me, but you've done my mother's hip. 176 00:06:28,699 --> 00:06:30,444 You recently did one of my closest friend's 177 00:06:30,444 --> 00:06:31,145 hip replacement. 178 00:06:32,085 --> 00:06:34,245 Any advice with Bill trying to build a 179 00:06:34,245 --> 00:06:35,064 great career 180 00:06:35,605 --> 00:06:37,444 where there where there sort of, you know, 181 00:06:37,444 --> 00:06:39,524 become special at what they do? And I 182 00:06:39,524 --> 00:06:41,845 don't I know you're a humble person, but 183 00:06:41,845 --> 00:06:43,605 but any thoughts on how do people sort 184 00:06:43,605 --> 00:06:45,959 of focus to become really great at what 185 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:48,279 they do, not just one of many, but 186 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,279 but really well really good at what they 187 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:50,779 do? 188 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,479 Well, I I really appreciate those kind words, 189 00:06:53,479 --> 00:06:55,845 Scott. And and, you know, I'm I'm it 190 00:06:55,845 --> 00:06:57,125 it was an honor and a privilege to 191 00:06:57,125 --> 00:06:58,564 take care of your mom and and your 192 00:06:58,564 --> 00:07:00,004 friends and and and other, 193 00:07:00,324 --> 00:07:03,365 acquaintances in in the in the, Chicagoland area 194 00:07:03,365 --> 00:07:05,524 and and and even from outside of there. 195 00:07:05,524 --> 00:07:07,204 It's it's been a great honor to be 196 00:07:07,204 --> 00:07:08,745 able to do that. How you 197 00:07:09,204 --> 00:07:09,704 build 198 00:07:10,004 --> 00:07:11,384 towards that, I think, 199 00:07:11,750 --> 00:07:13,210 has a couple of key tenants. 200 00:07:13,990 --> 00:07:15,850 One is to sort of 201 00:07:16,150 --> 00:07:16,650 remember 202 00:07:17,110 --> 00:07:19,189 why you're doing this job. You're here to 203 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:21,590 take care of patients and to get them, 204 00:07:21,590 --> 00:07:23,110 in my case, with what I do, back 205 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:25,115 on their feet. And I think it's very 206 00:07:25,115 --> 00:07:28,074 important early in your career to sort of 207 00:07:28,074 --> 00:07:30,314 maintain the the humility of what you're doing. 208 00:07:30,555 --> 00:07:33,035 It's a great honor and privilege to be 209 00:07:33,035 --> 00:07:35,115 given the opportunity to operate on a patient. 210 00:07:35,115 --> 00:07:37,639 It's a very sort of sacred bond, between 211 00:07:37,639 --> 00:07:39,240 surgeon and patient. When you take that knife 212 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,399 to somebody's skin, you're involved with them in 213 00:07:41,399 --> 00:07:43,159 a very different way than almost any other 214 00:07:43,159 --> 00:07:43,659 relationship, 215 00:07:44,039 --> 00:07:46,139 that that you would have, professional or social. 216 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,620 And I think maintaining that humility 217 00:07:49,159 --> 00:07:51,399 of that bond and really understanding what that 218 00:07:51,399 --> 00:07:53,294 means is the core. It's not about you 219 00:07:53,294 --> 00:07:55,294 as the surgeon or the great techniques that 220 00:07:55,294 --> 00:07:57,475 you're using or the implants that you're using. 221 00:07:57,615 --> 00:07:59,134 It's about that patient, and I think you 222 00:07:59,134 --> 00:08:01,294 have to lean into that. And then I 223 00:08:01,294 --> 00:08:03,055 had the good fortune of being part of 224 00:08:03,055 --> 00:08:04,975 a system where I can focus on just 225 00:08:04,975 --> 00:08:06,735 two operations. You know, I joke around with 226 00:08:06,735 --> 00:08:07,394 my partners. 227 00:08:07,899 --> 00:08:09,660 If I'm if I wanna sound, you know, 228 00:08:09,660 --> 00:08:11,420 simple, I say I do two operations, hip 229 00:08:11,420 --> 00:08:13,339 replacement and knee replacement. If I wanna sound 230 00:08:13,339 --> 00:08:15,100 more complicated, I say I do four. Right 231 00:08:15,100 --> 00:08:17,100 hip, left hip, right knee, left knee. And 232 00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:18,860 so a little bit of of of humor 233 00:08:18,860 --> 00:08:21,194 around that, but really being in a system 234 00:08:21,194 --> 00:08:24,074 that allows me to subspecialize and focus in 235 00:08:24,074 --> 00:08:25,995 in what I want to do gives me 236 00:08:25,995 --> 00:08:27,535 the repetitions to become, 237 00:08:27,995 --> 00:08:29,995 you know, hopefully much better at doing that 238 00:08:29,995 --> 00:08:31,995 procedure. The more you can focus in on 239 00:08:31,995 --> 00:08:33,754 one or two things, the better you will 240 00:08:33,754 --> 00:08:35,295 become at doing those things. 241 00:08:36,129 --> 00:08:38,309 No. I I think that's great. And and 242 00:08:38,769 --> 00:08:41,649 how did you get focused towards really where 243 00:08:41,649 --> 00:08:43,570 you focus on doing the things that you 244 00:08:43,570 --> 00:08:46,209 do? You've also got a great holistic approach 245 00:08:46,209 --> 00:08:46,870 to medicine 246 00:08:47,250 --> 00:08:49,429 while you specialize in those couple procedures. 247 00:08:50,264 --> 00:08:52,184 How did that evolve to where you really 248 00:08:52,184 --> 00:08:54,524 started to specialize just in doing that? 249 00:08:55,225 --> 00:08:57,225 Yeah. You know, I I think it it's 250 00:08:57,225 --> 00:08:59,325 a it's a great question. I think that 251 00:08:59,865 --> 00:09:02,424 surgical skill, technical skill on its own is 252 00:09:02,424 --> 00:09:04,205 not enough. You can do 253 00:09:04,580 --> 00:09:06,580 a perfect operation on somebody, but if you 254 00:09:06,580 --> 00:09:07,399 don't understand 255 00:09:07,779 --> 00:09:09,539 where they're coming from, what it is that 256 00:09:09,539 --> 00:09:12,100 they're looking for, their challenges, their fears, their 257 00:09:12,100 --> 00:09:12,600 concerns, 258 00:09:13,460 --> 00:09:14,980 their outcome won't be as good and you've 259 00:09:14,980 --> 00:09:16,279 done that patient a disservice. 260 00:09:16,820 --> 00:09:19,304 And so it's no longer the metric of, 261 00:09:19,304 --> 00:09:21,225 hey. The X-ray looks perfect. You know, I 262 00:09:21,225 --> 00:09:23,144 don't really care about the rest. You gotta 263 00:09:23,144 --> 00:09:25,465 understand that patient's story and their journey. And 264 00:09:25,465 --> 00:09:28,424 so it's sort of a self fulfilling, self, 265 00:09:28,745 --> 00:09:29,725 you know, growing 266 00:09:30,024 --> 00:09:32,845 philosophy in that if you want happy patients, 267 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,080 which all of us want, if you want 268 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,919 to continue to be busy, which comes from 269 00:09:36,919 --> 00:09:38,839 happy patients, the best way to do that 270 00:09:38,839 --> 00:09:40,200 is to do a good operation but to 271 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,200 take care of the patient all around. It's 272 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,039 also the right thing to do. It's also 273 00:09:44,039 --> 00:09:45,559 what makes you feel good as a person 274 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,500 when you're able to connect with that individual 275 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,254 and, you know, so somebody comes to you 276 00:09:49,254 --> 00:09:50,534 and say, hey. I can't play golf. I 277 00:09:50,534 --> 00:09:52,475 can't do stuff with my grandkids. I can't 278 00:09:52,695 --> 00:09:53,934 play this. I I I take care of 279 00:09:53,934 --> 00:09:55,095 a lot of people that are younger, in 280 00:09:55,095 --> 00:09:57,174 their forties, in their thirties. They can't do 281 00:09:57,174 --> 00:09:59,434 the things that they wanna do. And and 282 00:09:59,654 --> 00:10:01,174 being able to be a good person to 283 00:10:01,174 --> 00:10:04,475 them and understand their struggle, combine that with 284 00:10:04,830 --> 00:10:05,570 surgical skill, 285 00:10:06,190 --> 00:10:08,430 ability, technology, whatever that might be, then you 286 00:10:08,430 --> 00:10:10,029 get a really good outcome. You can't just 287 00:10:10,029 --> 00:10:11,710 do the operation in a vacuum, and I've 288 00:10:11,710 --> 00:10:13,470 been a big advocate of that. We need 289 00:10:13,470 --> 00:10:15,950 to understand where our parent patients are coming 290 00:10:15,950 --> 00:10:18,830 from and what their own concerns are aside 291 00:10:18,830 --> 00:10:20,554 from their arthritic hip or knee. It's more 292 00:10:20,554 --> 00:10:22,315 than that. They're they're not just an X-ray. 293 00:10:22,315 --> 00:10:24,235 They're a person with you know, that that 294 00:10:24,235 --> 00:10:26,315 lives their daily life with that arthritic hip 295 00:10:26,315 --> 00:10:26,894 or knee. 296 00:10:27,434 --> 00:10:28,954 Well, but but I think that's one of 297 00:10:28,954 --> 00:10:30,954 the beauties of how you practice. You're you're 298 00:10:30,954 --> 00:10:33,754 technically fantastic at what you do, but you 299 00:10:33,754 --> 00:10:37,090 have this uncommon understanding of the patient of 300 00:10:37,090 --> 00:10:39,410 people, which is, I think, that powerful cannot 301 00:10:39,649 --> 00:10:41,910 combination for a doctor, for a specialist, 302 00:10:42,370 --> 00:10:44,050 that that ability to be great at what 303 00:10:44,050 --> 00:10:46,529 you do, but really understand that you're doing 304 00:10:46,529 --> 00:10:48,769 it for a patient with a patient for 305 00:10:48,769 --> 00:10:51,434 their their holistic care. I think it's it's 306 00:10:51,434 --> 00:10:53,914 it's not everybody does it that well and 307 00:10:53,914 --> 00:10:54,414 understands 308 00:10:55,034 --> 00:10:57,194 their mission that clearly, and I think that 309 00:10:57,194 --> 00:10:59,274 mission clarity is probably a lot of part 310 00:10:59,355 --> 00:11:00,954 a lot of what makes you great at 311 00:11:00,954 --> 00:11:01,855 what you do. 312 00:11:02,235 --> 00:11:03,995 I really appreciate that, and and I will 313 00:11:03,995 --> 00:11:06,929 just throw in, you know, one one, little 314 00:11:07,389 --> 00:11:08,190 tidbit on that. 315 00:11:08,909 --> 00:11:10,350 I think, you know, as you know, we 316 00:11:10,350 --> 00:11:12,529 do some work overseas with our charity organization, 317 00:11:12,669 --> 00:11:13,809 Operation Walk Chicago, 318 00:11:14,350 --> 00:11:14,850 and 319 00:11:15,230 --> 00:11:16,049 I think that 320 00:11:16,590 --> 00:11:18,190 having a chance every year to go do 321 00:11:18,190 --> 00:11:19,649 that resets that 322 00:11:20,434 --> 00:11:23,955 compass, that that, that humility compass or that 323 00:11:23,955 --> 00:11:26,034 sort of understanding what people are going through 324 00:11:26,034 --> 00:11:28,914 compass. And that's really been something unique that 325 00:11:28,914 --> 00:11:30,274 that I've been able to be a part 326 00:11:30,274 --> 00:11:31,714 of for the past fifteen years that I 327 00:11:31,714 --> 00:11:33,759 think leans into that story that you're talking 328 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:35,840 about. I think when we're here and we're 329 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,320 talking about innovation and scale, and all the 330 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,179 things that I love doing on the administrative 331 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:40,799 side, 332 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,519 you know, you have to have a reminder 333 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:44,879 of why you're doing this on a day 334 00:11:44,879 --> 00:11:46,320 to day basis. And you can certainly do 335 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,399 that without having to travel overseas. But for 336 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:48,855 me, 337 00:11:49,254 --> 00:11:50,774 you know, the the annual trip that I 338 00:11:50,774 --> 00:11:52,794 make to Nepal, to participate, 339 00:11:53,414 --> 00:11:56,054 with Operation Walk really helps to reset that 340 00:11:56,054 --> 00:11:58,315 that guidance for me on an annual basis. 341 00:11:59,174 --> 00:12:02,454 That's amazing. Literally amazing. Doctor Basheo, I wanna 342 00:12:02,454 --> 00:12:04,459 thank you again for joining us on the 343 00:12:04,459 --> 00:12:06,940 Becker's Healthcare podcast. We love watching your crew. 344 00:12:06,940 --> 00:12:09,259 We love watch watching what you do. And, 345 00:12:09,259 --> 00:12:11,179 obviously, we're we're up here in the Endeavor 346 00:12:11,179 --> 00:12:13,179 health area, so we're huge fans of Endeavor 347 00:12:13,179 --> 00:12:14,639 and the other area health systems. 348 00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:16,459 Thank you so much for taking the time 349 00:12:16,459 --> 00:12:17,759 with us today. Just fantastic. 350 00:12:18,274 --> 00:12:20,274 Thanks, Scott. I always appreciate the time. I 351 00:12:20,274 --> 00:12:21,875 I think what excites me the most about 352 00:12:21,875 --> 00:12:23,315 where health care is going is that we're 353 00:12:23,315 --> 00:12:25,654 really learning how to combine innovation with humanity. 354 00:12:25,794 --> 00:12:27,554 We've been talking about that. And, frankly, at 355 00:12:27,554 --> 00:12:29,875 Endeavor, we're seeing that when you align great 356 00:12:29,875 --> 00:12:32,274 teams, thoughtful technology, and a real focus on 357 00:12:32,274 --> 00:12:35,185 patient experience, you can really safely move care 358 00:12:35,185 --> 00:12:36,705 forward at scale. And and it's been a 359 00:12:36,705 --> 00:12:38,465 great journey, and we're continuing to grow and 360 00:12:38,465 --> 00:12:38,965 learn.