1 00:00:03,919 --> 00:00:07,359 Hello again, KCIW listeners, and welcome to Curry 2 00:00:07,359 --> 00:00:08,960 Cafe. A few tech, 3 00:00:09,439 --> 00:00:11,919 issues today, but we're gonna get going. I'm 4 00:00:11,919 --> 00:00:13,380 volunteer Rick McNamer. 5 00:00:14,234 --> 00:00:16,554 Every Sunday from three to four, your host, 6 00:00:16,554 --> 00:00:18,554 Ray Gary, and I put together a panel 7 00:00:18,554 --> 00:00:20,635 of guests to discuss topics of interest in 8 00:00:20,635 --> 00:00:21,295 our community. 9 00:00:21,835 --> 00:00:23,375 Listeners can participate 10 00:00:24,554 --> 00:00:28,015 by texting in questions or comments to (541) 11 00:00:28,234 --> 00:00:30,780 661-4098. 12 00:00:30,780 --> 00:00:32,399 Again, that's (541) 13 00:00:32,460 --> 00:00:35,359 661-4098. 14 00:00:35,579 --> 00:00:36,060 And, 15 00:00:36,460 --> 00:00:38,060 since we're a little late, we're gonna get 16 00:00:38,060 --> 00:00:39,739 going here. So, Ray, you can tell us 17 00:00:39,739 --> 00:00:41,500 about what's going on today. Here we Yeah. 18 00:00:41,500 --> 00:00:43,100 Yeah. Well, as far as what's going on, 19 00:00:43,100 --> 00:00:43,820 we, We 20 00:00:44,495 --> 00:00:46,495 Our main engineer is out sick, and we're 21 00:00:46,495 --> 00:00:48,335 kinda fuddling through trying to make all the 22 00:00:48,335 --> 00:00:51,454 connections between here and Washington or whoever we're 23 00:00:51,454 --> 00:00:54,255 talking to. And, we have one guest here 24 00:00:54,255 --> 00:00:56,255 in the studio, and I'll let him introduce 25 00:00:56,255 --> 00:00:58,495 himself in a moment, and then he can 26 00:00:58,495 --> 00:01:00,034 introduce our next guest. 27 00:01:00,390 --> 00:01:01,289 So Great. 28 00:01:02,149 --> 00:01:04,310 Take it away. Take it away, Brent. You're 29 00:01:04,310 --> 00:01:05,829 on. Thanks for having me in the studio 30 00:01:05,829 --> 00:01:07,930 today. I'm Brett Cecil from Port Orford. 31 00:01:08,390 --> 00:01:10,150 I've also just by chance happened to be 32 00:01:10,150 --> 00:01:12,229 running for House District 1 in our Oregon 33 00:01:12,229 --> 00:01:12,734 state house 34 00:01:13,935 --> 00:01:15,454 currently. And we are here so that we 35 00:01:15,454 --> 00:01:17,875 can speak with our US representative, 36 00:01:18,415 --> 00:01:20,754 Val Hoyle, and she's on the line 37 00:01:21,215 --> 00:01:23,295 to visit with us now. So, Rick, I'm 38 00:01:23,295 --> 00:01:25,635 gonna toss it back to you. Okay. Congresswoman 39 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,620 Val Hoyle, thank you for joining us. And 40 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,920 if you would kinda come on in and 41 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,799 tell us about yourself and what all the 42 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:36,420 stuff we're gonna talk about today. 43 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,140 So first of all, thank thank you for 44 00:01:41,344 --> 00:01:42,084 having me 45 00:01:42,465 --> 00:01:43,364 on your show, 46 00:01:43,745 --> 00:01:46,224 especially with Brett. He's a a long time 47 00:01:46,224 --> 00:01:47,045 good friend, 48 00:01:47,424 --> 00:01:47,924 and, 49 00:01:48,704 --> 00:01:50,004 I am in DC. 50 00:01:52,625 --> 00:01:54,165 There's a lot going on. 51 00:01:54,704 --> 00:01:57,619 Oh, man. We know so. Yeah. That's an 52 00:01:57,619 --> 00:01:59,859 understatement. It's hard to even know where to 53 00:01:59,859 --> 00:02:00,359 start, 54 00:02:01,539 --> 00:02:04,119 but we're trying to make sure that we're 55 00:02:04,819 --> 00:02:07,159 both doing the job of serving the community 56 00:02:07,780 --> 00:02:08,280 while 57 00:02:08,675 --> 00:02:11,394 standing up and speaking out for the best 58 00:02:11,394 --> 00:02:13,574 interest of the people in the 4th Congressional 59 00:02:13,794 --> 00:02:14,294 District. 60 00:02:14,834 --> 00:02:16,055 Most of my colleagues 61 00:02:16,995 --> 00:02:19,875 come from places that are all red or 62 00:02:19,875 --> 00:02:21,875 all blue, and that is not the 4th 63 00:02:21,875 --> 00:02:23,094 Congressional District. 64 00:02:23,610 --> 00:02:25,849 It goes from Lincoln County. It's all of 65 00:02:25,849 --> 00:02:27,550 Benton County, Lane County, 66 00:02:27,930 --> 00:02:30,669 half of Douglas from the coast through Roseburg, 67 00:02:31,689 --> 00:02:34,110 all of Coos and all of Curry County. 68 00:02:34,569 --> 00:02:37,050 So, you know, if the if the large 69 00:02:37,050 --> 00:02:39,435 district is politically diverse, 70 00:02:39,894 --> 00:02:40,875 there are four, 71 00:02:41,414 --> 00:02:42,314 native tribes 72 00:02:42,614 --> 00:02:44,534 in the district and a third of the 73 00:02:44,534 --> 00:02:46,234 members of two other tribes 74 00:02:46,614 --> 00:02:47,754 as well. So, 75 00:02:49,334 --> 00:02:50,555 working with tribal 76 00:02:51,010 --> 00:02:53,010 tribal nations is is a big part of 77 00:02:53,010 --> 00:02:53,909 what we do. 78 00:02:54,450 --> 00:02:56,870 But, you know, I just try and focus 79 00:02:57,090 --> 00:02:58,389 on being practical. 80 00:02:58,689 --> 00:02:59,189 And 81 00:02:59,730 --> 00:03:01,650 right now, what I see is that we're 82 00:03:01,650 --> 00:03:03,889 spending $2,000,000,000 83 00:03:03,889 --> 00:03:04,550 a day 84 00:03:05,090 --> 00:03:06,469 in a foreign war 85 00:03:06,905 --> 00:03:07,724 with no 86 00:03:08,104 --> 00:03:10,844 plan for an end, putting Americans in danger. 87 00:03:11,384 --> 00:03:11,784 And, 88 00:03:12,905 --> 00:03:14,685 that is my biggest 89 00:03:15,465 --> 00:03:18,344 my biggest concern right now. I mean, we're 90 00:03:18,344 --> 00:03:21,324 blowing our deficit up. And and, again, 91 00:03:23,750 --> 00:03:24,569 Congress Congress 92 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:26,969 has the constitutional authority 93 00:03:27,510 --> 00:03:30,170 to declare war, and I will tell you 94 00:03:30,629 --> 00:03:34,629 that the junior junior people at Fox News 95 00:03:34,629 --> 00:03:37,030 knew that we were gonna go and attack 96 00:03:37,030 --> 00:03:37,530 Iran 97 00:03:37,905 --> 00:03:40,224 before I, as a member of Congress, knew, 98 00:03:40,224 --> 00:03:41,284 and that's wrong. 99 00:03:42,064 --> 00:03:44,884 The week that that we went into Iraq, 100 00:03:45,584 --> 00:03:46,884 Mike Johnson canceled 101 00:03:47,504 --> 00:03:47,905 the, 102 00:03:48,384 --> 00:03:49,284 foreign affairs 103 00:03:49,745 --> 00:03:51,125 and homeland security 104 00:03:51,584 --> 00:03:52,564 committee hearings. 105 00:03:53,639 --> 00:03:56,379 I don't know why my colleagues want 106 00:03:56,759 --> 00:03:59,099 to give away the power that the constitution, 107 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,919 gave to congress, but this is what I'm 108 00:04:02,919 --> 00:04:04,300 here trying to fight for. 109 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,680 Well and thank you. That was one of 110 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,520 my big questions, and I'm gonna give just 111 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,419 a tiny disclaimer 112 00:04:09,764 --> 00:04:11,444 disclaimer about me. I happen to be the 113 00:04:11,444 --> 00:04:13,525 lone Californian here. I live just across the 114 00:04:13,525 --> 00:04:14,025 border, 115 00:04:14,324 --> 00:04:15,305 but I spend 116 00:04:15,604 --> 00:04:17,604 many, many days and hours up here at 117 00:04:17,604 --> 00:04:19,604 Southern Oregon. We've met with him very carefully 118 00:04:19,604 --> 00:04:21,365 before we were allowed in the company across 119 00:04:21,524 --> 00:04:22,824 allowed me on the station. 120 00:04:23,990 --> 00:04:26,470 But, like yeah. Agree. And congresswoman, you answered 121 00:04:26,470 --> 00:04:28,230 my one of my biggest questions about that. 122 00:04:28,230 --> 00:04:29,050 This Iran, 123 00:04:30,069 --> 00:04:30,569 war 124 00:04:30,949 --> 00:04:31,430 is, 125 00:04:31,910 --> 00:04:34,470 not only wrong, but pretty crazy on what 126 00:04:34,470 --> 00:04:37,129 we're doing. And I think it's unpopular across 127 00:04:37,634 --> 00:04:40,274 the political realm. Across the world. And the 128 00:04:40,274 --> 00:04:43,394 world. Hello. It is well, across the world, 129 00:04:43,394 --> 00:04:44,134 we are, 130 00:04:44,914 --> 00:04:47,175 the president is ignoring ignoring 131 00:04:47,555 --> 00:04:49,495 our our NATO allies. 132 00:04:50,610 --> 00:04:53,089 I met with some Canadians this week. I 133 00:04:53,089 --> 00:04:55,889 I I have family that live in in 134 00:04:55,889 --> 00:04:57,350 Europe, and they are 135 00:04:58,209 --> 00:05:00,470 I mean, they're appalled. They're afraid. They 136 00:05:00,930 --> 00:05:03,829 are saying, what is your president doing? And 137 00:05:04,055 --> 00:05:05,814 the fact of the matter is I did 138 00:05:05,814 --> 00:05:06,634 not agree 139 00:05:07,095 --> 00:05:08,634 when we went into Iraq, 140 00:05:09,574 --> 00:05:10,875 but that administration 141 00:05:11,334 --> 00:05:12,555 spent over a year 142 00:05:12,855 --> 00:05:14,875 preparing for it, you know, 143 00:05:16,229 --> 00:05:18,550 trying to build up a a reason for 144 00:05:18,550 --> 00:05:21,589 going into going into Iraq. Again, it didn't 145 00:05:21,589 --> 00:05:23,610 turn out well. We lost 146 00:05:23,910 --> 00:05:25,050 American lives. 147 00:05:25,750 --> 00:05:28,009 But this, there was no preparation. 148 00:05:28,389 --> 00:05:31,129 We've used three years' worth of missiles, 149 00:05:31,574 --> 00:05:33,115 right, in two weeks, 150 00:05:33,654 --> 00:05:36,454 and we're putting American lives on the line. 151 00:05:36,454 --> 00:05:39,274 And when we put boots on the ground 152 00:05:39,814 --> 00:05:42,134 and it's, you know, our kids that are 153 00:05:42,134 --> 00:05:43,274 filling those boots, 154 00:05:44,259 --> 00:05:46,259 I think we have to be very, very 155 00:05:46,259 --> 00:05:48,660 careful. And this does not seem to be 156 00:05:48,660 --> 00:05:51,000 well thought out, and we're putting Americans 157 00:05:51,620 --> 00:05:52,920 very much in danger. 158 00:05:53,620 --> 00:05:56,680 Well, I'm wondering if, if Barron is considering, 159 00:05:57,564 --> 00:05:59,264 putting a couple of years in the military. 160 00:05:59,725 --> 00:06:01,245 He'd be the first Trump to have been 161 00:06:01,245 --> 00:06:03,985 in the military. He's not. Yeah. I'm not. 162 00:06:04,045 --> 00:06:06,764 He is not. They're they're saying it's because 163 00:06:06,764 --> 00:06:07,904 he's five nine. 164 00:06:08,285 --> 00:06:08,785 Yeah. 165 00:06:09,740 --> 00:06:11,579 You know He couldn't he couldn't be accepted. 166 00:06:11,740 --> 00:06:14,139 Not Donald Trump's kids going in. Yeah. No. 167 00:06:14,139 --> 00:06:15,839 That's all I'm saying. No. 168 00:06:16,459 --> 00:06:18,139 And and you're so right about the it 169 00:06:18,139 --> 00:06:20,379 is apples and well, that's the right thing 170 00:06:20,379 --> 00:06:22,300 to say, but the to the Iraq and 171 00:06:22,379 --> 00:06:25,175 it's Iran, Iraq and Iran. I mean, even 172 00:06:25,175 --> 00:06:27,334 I was way back there was kinda believing 173 00:06:27,334 --> 00:06:27,834 that, 174 00:06:28,295 --> 00:06:30,615 there were weapons of mass destruction there for 175 00:06:30,615 --> 00:06:31,915 a while until 176 00:06:32,295 --> 00:06:34,535 it proved out to be not true at 177 00:06:34,535 --> 00:06:36,870 all. And by then, the damage was done. 178 00:06:36,949 --> 00:06:39,669 And this thing came on like gangbusters, boy. 179 00:06:39,669 --> 00:06:42,069 I'll just like within a day, we were 180 00:06:42,069 --> 00:06:43,050 we were there. 181 00:06:44,629 --> 00:06:47,029 Do you see And and, again, we are 182 00:06:47,029 --> 00:06:50,715 at we are at war, and we still 183 00:06:51,574 --> 00:06:54,615 have the the president has not come to 184 00:06:54,615 --> 00:06:58,795 congress. Now they're asking for $200,000,000,000, 185 00:06:59,254 --> 00:07:02,134 right, after we blew a $4,000,000,000,000 186 00:07:02,134 --> 00:07:04,535 hole in the budget with the Republican budget 187 00:07:04,535 --> 00:07:06,529 bill last last year. 188 00:07:06,830 --> 00:07:09,089 So $200,000,000,000 189 00:07:09,790 --> 00:07:10,610 for what? 190 00:07:11,069 --> 00:07:13,230 There's there's an old we can continue another 191 00:07:13,230 --> 00:07:14,610 endless war abroad? 192 00:07:15,149 --> 00:07:17,310 I can't vote for that. There's there's an 193 00:07:17,310 --> 00:07:19,069 old song by Gil Scott Heron. I don't 194 00:07:19,069 --> 00:07:20,714 know how many of you are familiar with 195 00:07:20,794 --> 00:07:22,175 called Whitey on the Moon. 196 00:07:22,634 --> 00:07:25,274 And, basically, he's a guy, in the story 197 00:07:25,274 --> 00:07:26,894 living in a a ghetto. 198 00:07:27,355 --> 00:07:27,675 And, 199 00:07:28,475 --> 00:07:29,214 his sister 200 00:07:29,754 --> 00:07:31,834 just got bit by a rat. She they 201 00:07:31,834 --> 00:07:33,214 can't pay doctor bills. 202 00:07:33,834 --> 00:07:36,639 Arms and necks begins as well, and why 203 00:07:36,639 --> 00:07:37,699 he's on the moon. 204 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:42,479 The priorities? The pri yeah. Exactly. Yes. Well 205 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,160 no. And it boy, it's just not a 206 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,240 laughing matter. It it's we're in a scary 207 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,199 place. And not only, congresswoman, you you talked 208 00:07:49,199 --> 00:07:51,379 about how he has the Trump administration 209 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:52,214 has 210 00:07:52,694 --> 00:07:53,194 alienated 211 00:07:53,574 --> 00:07:55,194 our allies and friends 212 00:07:55,814 --> 00:07:57,194 and seems to 213 00:07:57,735 --> 00:07:58,555 prop up 214 00:07:59,014 --> 00:08:00,235 Putin for sure, 215 00:08:01,735 --> 00:08:02,235 and 216 00:08:02,694 --> 00:08:04,854 maybe Xi from China a little bit over 217 00:08:04,854 --> 00:08:05,670 all of this. 218 00:08:06,470 --> 00:08:09,430 Well and look at China is preparing to 219 00:08:09,430 --> 00:08:10,490 invade Taiwan. 220 00:08:11,110 --> 00:08:13,370 There's the big scare. We know that there 221 00:08:13,590 --> 00:08:15,529 there you know, Russia 222 00:08:16,069 --> 00:08:18,569 is now that everyone is distracted 223 00:08:18,949 --> 00:08:20,810 is going full bore in Ukraine. 224 00:08:21,235 --> 00:08:22,935 Our European NATO allies 225 00:08:23,395 --> 00:08:24,694 understand that Russia 226 00:08:25,154 --> 00:08:26,055 getting closer 227 00:08:26,754 --> 00:08:27,235 to, 228 00:08:27,555 --> 00:08:29,875 you know, to their countries is a danger 229 00:08:29,875 --> 00:08:30,535 for everyone. 230 00:08:30,995 --> 00:08:32,695 We pulled out of USAID, 231 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,720 and people might say, why are we spending 232 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,199 money taking care of people in Africa or 233 00:08:38,199 --> 00:08:40,620 these other countries? Well, that gives us 234 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:43,339 soft power. Right? I believe. 235 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:44,699 And we, 236 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,115 yeah, we we took that money out, and 237 00:08:48,115 --> 00:08:51,095 China is going in and developing those relationships 238 00:08:51,315 --> 00:08:52,934 with those countries. I mean, 239 00:08:53,714 --> 00:08:56,274 what what I I talk to people, business 240 00:08:56,274 --> 00:08:57,954 owners here in, 241 00:08:58,514 --> 00:09:00,615 you know, in Oregon, in my district, 242 00:09:00,980 --> 00:09:03,299 And with the tariffs they're paying for goods 243 00:09:03,299 --> 00:09:06,579 coming in and the the we're we're an 244 00:09:06,579 --> 00:09:08,199 export dependent state, 245 00:09:08,579 --> 00:09:09,319 and people 246 00:09:09,779 --> 00:09:13,315 abroad are buying less American things. Like, let's 247 00:09:13,315 --> 00:09:15,254 just go to our wine industry. 248 00:09:15,794 --> 00:09:16,695 40% 249 00:09:16,754 --> 00:09:18,375 of the wines that we sell 250 00:09:18,754 --> 00:09:21,975 go to Canada, and that market ended overnight 251 00:09:22,674 --> 00:09:23,894 because we alienated 252 00:09:24,355 --> 00:09:25,095 our allies. 253 00:09:25,714 --> 00:09:28,455 And right now, we should be spending money 254 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:31,519 on making sure people have access to health 255 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:33,299 care, on bringing manufacturing 256 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:36,100 back, on economic development, 257 00:09:36,639 --> 00:09:37,139 on, 258 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,019 you know, addressing the needs of the American 259 00:09:40,159 --> 00:09:42,684 people. We have a president that was elected, 260 00:09:42,684 --> 00:09:44,764 and I talked to a lot of very 261 00:09:44,764 --> 00:09:45,985 conservative Republicans 262 00:09:46,365 --> 00:09:49,004 who've voted for Trump. And they said they 263 00:09:49,004 --> 00:09:51,664 voted for Trump because he would put America 264 00:09:51,725 --> 00:09:53,824 first, and they don't understand 265 00:09:54,284 --> 00:09:56,064 why he's blowing apart the budget 266 00:09:56,579 --> 00:09:58,759 and invading other countries, 267 00:09:59,139 --> 00:10:01,620 that was not part of what they voted 268 00:10:01,620 --> 00:10:02,120 for. 269 00:10:02,980 --> 00:10:06,179 No. Not at all. And, congresswoman, since you 270 00:10:06,179 --> 00:10:07,959 are on the quote quote inside, 271 00:10:08,355 --> 00:10:10,595 do you get a feeling or a sense 272 00:10:10,595 --> 00:10:12,774 that there's really a lot more, 273 00:10:14,195 --> 00:10:15,495 not how support 274 00:10:15,875 --> 00:10:18,274 for I should say non support for what 275 00:10:18,274 --> 00:10:21,029 the Trump administration is doing? Because it's really 276 00:10:21,090 --> 00:10:23,970 some pretty crazy stuff. But and if you 277 00:10:23,970 --> 00:10:25,730 do see that, are they why are they 278 00:10:25,730 --> 00:10:27,350 not speaking out more? 279 00:10:28,210 --> 00:10:31,490 Well, I don't know. There's some people that 280 00:10:31,490 --> 00:10:34,070 that are. We've got, of course, Thomas Massie, 281 00:10:34,455 --> 00:10:36,375 right, where I might disagree with him, but 282 00:10:36,375 --> 00:10:38,375 he isn't he is a he is a 283 00:10:38,375 --> 00:10:41,095 man of principle. And, you know, part of 284 00:10:41,095 --> 00:10:41,835 that is, 285 00:10:43,014 --> 00:10:44,795 you know, not busting the budget. 286 00:10:46,215 --> 00:10:48,779 Don Bacon and a number of other 287 00:10:49,259 --> 00:10:52,379 Republicans have spoken up. We have Republicans that 288 00:10:52,379 --> 00:10:55,680 spoke up against the erratic care tariff policy, 289 00:10:56,300 --> 00:10:59,100 and Donald Trump came in and supported their 290 00:10:59,100 --> 00:11:01,920 primary opponents because what he wants from congress 291 00:11:02,554 --> 00:11:03,855 is for this body 292 00:11:04,475 --> 00:11:06,014 to be, number one, 293 00:11:07,434 --> 00:11:10,875 only responsive to Republican needs, and we represent 294 00:11:10,875 --> 00:11:12,174 almost half the population. 295 00:11:12,714 --> 00:11:15,470 That isn't right or fair. And number two, 296 00:11:15,850 --> 00:11:16,570 to the, 297 00:11:17,129 --> 00:11:19,470 the Duma, just a a checkboxing 298 00:11:20,090 --> 00:11:24,029 a a checkbox institution that gives the executive 299 00:11:24,169 --> 00:11:24,669 branch 300 00:11:24,970 --> 00:11:26,889 what they want, and that is not our 301 00:11:26,889 --> 00:11:27,389 job. 302 00:11:27,705 --> 00:11:30,264 Our job as a separate and equal branch 303 00:11:30,264 --> 00:11:33,884 of government is to add checks and balances. 304 00:11:33,945 --> 00:11:35,085 It's the judiciary, 305 00:11:35,465 --> 00:11:37,644 the legislative branch, and the executive. 306 00:11:38,264 --> 00:11:40,985 And, you know, I I'm very frustrated with 307 00:11:40,985 --> 00:11:43,165 my colleagues, with Mike Johnson in particular, 308 00:11:43,589 --> 00:11:45,690 for not carrying out the duty 309 00:11:46,949 --> 00:11:49,190 outlined in the constitution that they took an 310 00:11:49,190 --> 00:11:51,029 oath to. The other thing that I've been 311 00:11:51,029 --> 00:11:53,049 talking to people about is the 312 00:11:53,990 --> 00:11:56,009 is the rising gas prices. 313 00:11:56,475 --> 00:11:59,534 Right? We we've got, you know, barrel the 314 00:11:59,754 --> 00:12:02,794 oil prices, gas prices are going through the 315 00:12:02,794 --> 00:12:04,334 roof. And because 316 00:12:04,794 --> 00:12:07,214 of the blockade in the Strait Of Hormuz, 317 00:12:08,075 --> 00:12:10,575 we're not gonna see them come down anytime 318 00:12:10,634 --> 00:12:11,070 quick. 319 00:12:11,549 --> 00:12:13,870 This was I think the president thought that 320 00:12:13,870 --> 00:12:15,009 going into Iran 321 00:12:15,389 --> 00:12:16,529 would be like Venezuela, 322 00:12:17,629 --> 00:12:20,529 which, you know, going into any sovereign countries. 323 00:12:20,910 --> 00:12:22,990 I'm not gonna I I I certainly will 324 00:12:22,990 --> 00:12:25,149 not speak up for Nicolas Maduro. He's a 325 00:12:25,149 --> 00:12:25,649 horrible 326 00:12:26,024 --> 00:12:26,764 fervor dictator. 327 00:12:27,144 --> 00:12:29,644 But invading another country 328 00:12:30,184 --> 00:12:30,924 just because, 329 00:12:31,625 --> 00:12:33,704 you know, we we want to do some 330 00:12:33,704 --> 00:12:36,845 manifest destiny thing and thinking going into Iran 331 00:12:37,544 --> 00:12:39,084 where with the kind of 332 00:12:39,710 --> 00:12:40,210 sophisticated 333 00:12:40,670 --> 00:12:43,629 tariff cells that they have with their ability 334 00:12:43,629 --> 00:12:45,809 to shut down the Strait Of Hormuz, which 335 00:12:45,950 --> 00:12:48,670 so many goods come through and the fact 336 00:12:48,670 --> 00:12:51,790 that we're not getting oil, Americans are going 337 00:12:51,790 --> 00:12:53,250 to be paying the price. 338 00:12:53,550 --> 00:12:56,154 And, you know, they're they're already seeing it. 339 00:12:56,154 --> 00:12:58,875 I don't see this ending anytime soon, and 340 00:12:58,875 --> 00:13:00,174 that is terrifying. 341 00:13:00,634 --> 00:13:01,615 It is terrifying. 342 00:13:02,715 --> 00:13:05,514 And, you know, I think most Americans will 343 00:13:05,514 --> 00:13:07,054 certainly agree Iran 344 00:13:07,595 --> 00:13:08,095 is 345 00:13:08,959 --> 00:13:10,419 a horrible situation 346 00:13:10,799 --> 00:13:12,720 with Formal. Killing in their own people. I 347 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,079 mean, it it end up in that way, 348 00:13:14,079 --> 00:13:15,139 but, boy, 349 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,159 I I did watch an interview the other 350 00:13:18,159 --> 00:13:19,220 day, with 351 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:21,699 Christiane Amanpour, 352 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,725 who I happen to love, but And he's 353 00:13:24,784 --> 00:13:26,804 from Iran. Yeah. Iran. And, 354 00:13:27,585 --> 00:13:29,825 like she said, there's plenty of people that 355 00:13:29,904 --> 00:13:32,304 there's a lot of wonderful, smart people there, 356 00:13:32,304 --> 00:13:33,605 but they're under such, 357 00:13:34,784 --> 00:13:37,184 horrific leadership. And I don't even call it 358 00:13:37,184 --> 00:13:37,684 leadership, 359 00:13:38,129 --> 00:13:38,790 But it's 360 00:13:39,730 --> 00:13:42,049 it wasn't it wasn't worth doing what we 361 00:13:42,049 --> 00:13:45,970 did. We've exacerbated that situation, I think, rather 362 00:13:45,970 --> 00:13:49,429 than Oh, I I, Helped anything. 363 00:13:49,730 --> 00:13:50,230 Helped. 364 00:13:50,850 --> 00:13:51,350 I've, 365 00:13:51,855 --> 00:13:53,554 yeah, I've spoken with a number 366 00:13:54,014 --> 00:13:55,394 of Iranian Americans, 367 00:13:56,095 --> 00:13:57,774 who I've I've gotten to be good friends 368 00:13:57,774 --> 00:13:59,075 with. And 369 00:13:59,695 --> 00:14:01,154 they I mean, 370 00:14:02,014 --> 00:14:02,595 you know, 371 00:14:02,975 --> 00:14:04,115 Ayatollah Khomeini, 372 00:14:04,495 --> 00:14:08,710 again, horrific dictator. They murdered tens of thousands 373 00:14:09,009 --> 00:14:11,570 of their own people. I've spoken to women 374 00:14:11,570 --> 00:14:14,290 who were who were imprisoned at 14 and 375 00:14:14,290 --> 00:14:16,850 15 and watched their family members and friends 376 00:14:16,850 --> 00:14:18,309 get murdered. I mean, 377 00:14:18,745 --> 00:14:21,144 the Ayatollah Khomeini is a 378 00:14:22,024 --> 00:14:23,404 was a horrible dictator. 379 00:14:24,024 --> 00:14:24,524 And 380 00:14:25,464 --> 00:14:28,044 what needs to happen is not that The 381 00:14:28,105 --> 00:14:29,644 US should go in, but 382 00:14:30,264 --> 00:14:30,764 that 383 00:14:31,110 --> 00:14:32,649 the people of Iran 384 00:14:33,509 --> 00:14:35,830 the people of Iran should be able to 385 00:14:35,830 --> 00:14:37,450 determine to overthrow 386 00:14:38,870 --> 00:14:41,350 that that current regime. That current regime in 387 00:14:41,350 --> 00:14:43,795 Iran is not supported by the people. But 388 00:14:43,795 --> 00:14:47,394 now that we're we're bombing their energy plans, 389 00:14:47,394 --> 00:14:47,894 we're 390 00:14:48,355 --> 00:14:51,254 threatening to bomb to to blow off everything 391 00:14:51,394 --> 00:14:54,215 in Iran, we are hurting we're targeting 392 00:14:54,835 --> 00:14:55,894 civilian infrastructure, 393 00:14:56,610 --> 00:14:59,190 not military infrastructure, civilian infrastructure. 394 00:14:59,970 --> 00:15:02,210 So what are we doing? No one starts 395 00:15:02,210 --> 00:15:04,289 a revolution on a full stomach, and we 396 00:15:04,289 --> 00:15:08,049 are making the Iranian people hate us. We 397 00:15:08,049 --> 00:15:11,330 are putting civilians in even more danger and 398 00:15:11,330 --> 00:15:11,830 peril. 399 00:15:12,424 --> 00:15:13,325 For what? 400 00:15:13,784 --> 00:15:16,504 I I I still don't understand. They were 401 00:15:16,504 --> 00:15:18,845 not a direct threat to us, 402 00:15:19,225 --> 00:15:21,565 and there were other ways to handle this. 403 00:15:21,625 --> 00:15:22,365 But, again, 404 00:15:22,825 --> 00:15:23,485 the president 405 00:15:24,290 --> 00:15:25,029 took a notion, 406 00:15:25,570 --> 00:15:28,389 listened to direction from Benjamin Netanyahu, 407 00:15:29,009 --> 00:15:29,509 and 408 00:15:29,889 --> 00:15:30,389 decided 409 00:15:30,769 --> 00:15:33,570 to go in to Iran, and now we're 410 00:15:33,570 --> 00:15:36,210 stuck in a quagmire that we were just 411 00:15:36,210 --> 00:15:38,149 like we were in Vietnam, in Afghanistan, 412 00:15:38,690 --> 00:15:41,144 in Iraq. It has never turned out well 413 00:15:41,144 --> 00:15:41,805 for us. 414 00:15:42,264 --> 00:15:44,684 And there's another elephant in the room, 415 00:15:45,225 --> 00:15:48,345 Benjamin Netanyahu, who many years ago, I kinda 416 00:15:48,345 --> 00:15:50,845 thought was okay, but he's turned into, 417 00:15:52,019 --> 00:15:54,580 a terrorist. Yeah. Look what's happened in Gaza, 418 00:15:54,580 --> 00:15:56,840 and it's still going on. I'm wondering, 419 00:15:57,540 --> 00:15:59,399 yeah, how much of this, yeah, 420 00:16:00,100 --> 00:16:02,600 conversation between Trump and Netanyahu 421 00:16:03,460 --> 00:16:05,544 kind of a try to get a distraction 422 00:16:05,605 --> 00:16:08,985 for what everything else is going on? Now 423 00:16:09,284 --> 00:16:11,384 I'm a quick We are really Go ahead. 424 00:16:11,524 --> 00:16:14,004 Oh, go ahead. Sorry. We were really 425 00:16:14,644 --> 00:16:16,485 oh, go ahead. I was just gonna throw 426 00:16:16,485 --> 00:16:19,299 in real. The Epstein files. I know that 427 00:16:19,299 --> 00:16:21,139 gets kicked around and Yeah. As far as 428 00:16:21,139 --> 00:16:23,139 world problems, it might be way down there. 429 00:16:23,139 --> 00:16:25,379 But that was another horrific thing that we've 430 00:16:25,379 --> 00:16:27,539 got going on, and nobody's really paid the 431 00:16:27,699 --> 00:16:30,384 well, maybe a couple people. But that was 432 00:16:30,384 --> 00:16:33,045 my point is and I see this administration, 433 00:16:35,184 --> 00:16:37,184 I'll I'll say it, evil enough to do 434 00:16:37,184 --> 00:16:39,585 something like this to distract from not only 435 00:16:39,585 --> 00:16:43,105 that, but from everything else that's going on. 436 00:16:43,105 --> 00:16:45,279 We we have a whole bunch of distractions 437 00:16:45,580 --> 00:16:47,419 that we can distract away from the war 438 00:16:47,419 --> 00:16:49,580 with the Epstein and then distract, 439 00:16:49,899 --> 00:16:50,879 to something else. 440 00:16:51,259 --> 00:16:53,259 Right. Yeah. We have enough, Right. And I 441 00:16:53,259 --> 00:16:55,259 wanna bring that point up. Go ahead, and 442 00:16:55,259 --> 00:16:56,639 thank you for being your representative. 443 00:16:57,975 --> 00:16:59,335 I I just wanted to point out that 444 00:16:59,335 --> 00:17:01,254 I see all of this to be a 445 00:17:01,254 --> 00:17:03,735 gigantic distraction for the American people. We're all 446 00:17:03,735 --> 00:17:06,075 looking at different directions and ping ponging between 447 00:17:06,214 --> 00:17:08,295 issues and what's going on. The war is 448 00:17:08,295 --> 00:17:09,434 a horrific thing. 449 00:17:09,799 --> 00:17:11,880 And you might guess that since I'm running 450 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,900 for a house seat in our Oregon house, 451 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,480 I might be concerned what's going on in 452 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,079 our state and how this war is going 453 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:19,159 to affect us. I, as a candidate right 454 00:17:19,159 --> 00:17:22,279 now, and I'm a grassroots candidate, so my 455 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:24,779 constituents help me with small dollar donations, 456 00:17:25,144 --> 00:17:27,544 but I'm looking at $5 gasoline in in 457 00:17:27,544 --> 00:17:29,325 Port Orford. For me to gas up 458 00:17:29,625 --> 00:17:33,065 to crisscross Douglas County to the California border 459 00:17:33,065 --> 00:17:35,144 and all the way up to Allegheny in 460 00:17:35,144 --> 00:17:37,004 Coos County is my district area 461 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,839 is a lot of driving for me to 462 00:17:38,839 --> 00:17:41,000 get out. It's really going to affect me 463 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,000 personally as a candidate, but I see it 464 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,279 affecting my Mhmm. People are not wanting to 465 00:17:46,279 --> 00:17:47,579 get out and travel. 466 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,355 They're concerned about what that cost is going 467 00:17:50,355 --> 00:17:51,955 to be for them moving into the future. 468 00:17:51,955 --> 00:17:53,875 And my question for you then is, what 469 00:17:53,875 --> 00:17:55,974 can we watch for and how can we, 470 00:17:56,195 --> 00:17:57,335 here at home in Oregon, 471 00:17:59,394 --> 00:18:01,154 make thing make our dollar stretch a little 472 00:18:01,154 --> 00:18:03,555 further? And what protections can you see from 473 00:18:03,555 --> 00:18:06,380 the the converse US congressional side that could 474 00:18:06,380 --> 00:18:07,980 be helpful for us here in in Oregon 475 00:18:07,980 --> 00:18:08,640 at home? 476 00:18:09,740 --> 00:18:11,440 Well, number number 477 00:18:12,059 --> 00:18:13,580 first of all, I'll go back to the 478 00:18:13,580 --> 00:18:14,640 Epstein file. 479 00:18:15,580 --> 00:18:16,559 And I think, 480 00:18:17,445 --> 00:18:19,025 you know, Rick, you you said, 481 00:18:19,724 --> 00:18:22,525 well, you know, not as important. I I'm 482 00:18:22,525 --> 00:18:24,365 sorry. But when when do we get to 483 00:18:24,365 --> 00:18:25,025 the place 484 00:18:25,644 --> 00:18:26,144 where 485 00:18:26,845 --> 00:18:28,464 adults that rape children 486 00:18:29,069 --> 00:18:31,950 aren't held accountable. This should be bipartisan. I 487 00:18:31,950 --> 00:18:33,710 don't care whose name is in there. I 488 00:18:33,710 --> 00:18:35,069 don't need it. And I have looked 489 00:18:35,869 --> 00:18:36,909 you know, that 490 00:18:37,390 --> 00:18:39,950 those you know, Donald Trump ran and said 491 00:18:40,190 --> 00:18:42,825 and and Bundy said they would release the 492 00:18:42,825 --> 00:18:45,724 Epstein files, and we've gotten nothing but obfuscation. 493 00:18:46,105 --> 00:18:48,105 I'll tell you what. I went in to 494 00:18:48,105 --> 00:18:49,704 to look at the files. You can sit 495 00:18:49,704 --> 00:18:52,184 there for two hours in a room where 496 00:18:52,184 --> 00:18:54,345 they're watching you. You have to log in 497 00:18:54,345 --> 00:18:56,910 so they can track what you look up. 498 00:18:57,130 --> 00:18:58,910 They don't give you any direction 499 00:18:59,369 --> 00:19:01,769 at all. Everything is just numbered, and you 500 00:19:01,769 --> 00:19:03,369 have to click on each thing. You can 501 00:19:03,369 --> 00:19:06,570 do a search, but it is really, really 502 00:19:06,809 --> 00:19:09,710 they have put so many obstacles in place. 503 00:19:10,009 --> 00:19:11,544 But what is clear 504 00:19:11,924 --> 00:19:12,664 is that 505 00:19:13,044 --> 00:19:13,544 children 506 00:19:14,884 --> 00:19:15,544 were raped, 507 00:19:16,325 --> 00:19:16,825 period. 508 00:19:17,444 --> 00:19:18,345 And that 509 00:19:18,804 --> 00:19:19,304 should 510 00:19:19,605 --> 00:19:23,304 be something we all agree should be prosecuted 511 00:19:23,684 --> 00:19:26,269 to the fullest extent of the law. Democrat, 512 00:19:26,490 --> 00:19:28,990 Republican, Indian, I don't I don't care. 513 00:19:29,849 --> 00:19:32,890 And so as we're narrowing in on that, 514 00:19:32,890 --> 00:19:34,750 all of a sudden, this war start. 515 00:19:35,130 --> 00:19:37,529 Right? Who knows? I can't speak to the 516 00:19:37,529 --> 00:19:38,029 motives 517 00:19:38,335 --> 00:19:40,434 And Of the narrative. But what I can, 518 00:19:40,894 --> 00:19:43,695 yeah, what I can say is that now 519 00:19:43,695 --> 00:19:44,914 these gas prices 520 00:19:45,375 --> 00:19:48,575 are are really high and, quite frankly, for 521 00:19:48,575 --> 00:19:49,875 people in rural communities 522 00:19:50,174 --> 00:19:52,575 where it's not like you can just ride 523 00:19:52,575 --> 00:19:55,430 your your bike from Port Orford up to 524 00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:57,750 Coos Bay. You know, for people who are 525 00:19:57,750 --> 00:20:00,150 trying to get to work, I mean, this 526 00:20:00,150 --> 00:20:01,769 is really a 527 00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:04,890 a major part of their paycheck. So 528 00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:07,345 we're looking at what we can do. 529 00:20:09,244 --> 00:20:11,644 The you know, it's it's rather difficult, but 530 00:20:11,644 --> 00:20:14,224 the most important thing we could do is 531 00:20:14,845 --> 00:20:15,825 get our troops 532 00:20:16,205 --> 00:20:17,025 out of Iran, 533 00:20:18,285 --> 00:20:19,964 you know, out of out of the Middle 534 00:20:19,964 --> 00:20:20,400 East 535 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:21,380 and, 536 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,680 certainly boots on the ground out of the 537 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,339 Middle East and figure out how to 538 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,759 solve this situation so that we can get 539 00:20:29,759 --> 00:20:31,859 trade happening again. But my concern 540 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,855 is that, I don't know, my my grandmother 541 00:20:34,855 --> 00:20:37,335 always used to say burnt bridges are are 542 00:20:37,335 --> 00:20:39,755 much harder to walk across. We have burned 543 00:20:39,894 --> 00:20:42,454 so many relationship. The people do not trust 544 00:20:42,454 --> 00:20:45,355 us. And killing the Ayantollah Khomeini, 545 00:20:46,309 --> 00:20:48,630 Right? The people who have taken his place 546 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:51,529 are even more radical. Well So so, 547 00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:54,230 Brett, I when you say how do we 548 00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:55,210 stretch dollars, 549 00:20:55,829 --> 00:20:57,525 I don't know. But 550 00:20:57,845 --> 00:20:59,365 we No. Out of nowhere and out. And 551 00:20:59,365 --> 00:21:00,345 we have to, 552 00:21:00,884 --> 00:21:02,744 yeah, we have to rely 553 00:21:03,045 --> 00:21:07,065 on our community for food, fuel, and fiber 554 00:21:07,285 --> 00:21:09,684 and make sure that we're taking care of 555 00:21:09,684 --> 00:21:10,184 ourselves 556 00:21:10,724 --> 00:21:11,945 as well as possible. 557 00:21:13,299 --> 00:21:15,299 That's, you know Thanks for I'm a little 558 00:21:15,299 --> 00:21:17,220 bit more interested in that question because, yeah, 559 00:21:17,220 --> 00:21:19,220 that a big thing that that comes to 560 00:21:19,220 --> 00:21:21,059 mind for me is that I believe it's 561 00:21:21,059 --> 00:21:22,339 $300,000,000 562 00:21:22,339 --> 00:21:25,380 from the state budget. Oregon state budget has 563 00:21:25,380 --> 00:21:28,174 been disappeared in the whole federal renewal 564 00:21:29,115 --> 00:21:31,355 of of money for our state in the 565 00:21:31,355 --> 00:21:33,535 very early days of of the Trump administration. 566 00:21:33,994 --> 00:21:36,174 How are we going to fill that gap 567 00:21:36,315 --> 00:21:38,715 here in our state? When I have people 568 00:21:38,715 --> 00:21:40,634 that are concerned in Curry County, you don't 569 00:21:40,634 --> 00:21:42,029 wanna pay a levy so that we have 570 00:21:42,029 --> 00:21:45,070 a sheriff's department that's operating properly. People don't 571 00:21:45,070 --> 00:21:48,670 wanna they're concerned about paying a 6ยข 572 00:21:48,670 --> 00:21:50,750 increase in the gas tax because that's going 573 00:21:50,750 --> 00:21:52,350 to be hard for them to do. But 574 00:21:52,350 --> 00:21:54,130 we have this $300,000,000 575 00:21:54,430 --> 00:21:54,930 gap. 576 00:21:55,285 --> 00:21:57,045 How are we gonna close that for our 577 00:21:57,045 --> 00:21:58,964 health care and our education, making sure our 578 00:21:58,964 --> 00:22:01,684 kids are taken care of, and transportation? That's 579 00:22:01,684 --> 00:22:03,144 gonna impact our economy 580 00:22:03,525 --> 00:22:04,265 here locally 581 00:22:04,644 --> 00:22:06,964 in Brookings and Curry County and the state 582 00:22:06,964 --> 00:22:08,805 of Oregon in ways I don't think any 583 00:22:08,805 --> 00:22:10,660 of us can see right now. And that's 584 00:22:10,660 --> 00:22:12,180 what I really wanna try and get folks 585 00:22:12,180 --> 00:22:13,320 to pay attention to. 586 00:22:13,779 --> 00:22:16,660 I I think that's true. Although I will 587 00:22:16,660 --> 00:22:17,559 say so 588 00:22:17,940 --> 00:22:19,426 it's like a, 589 00:22:20,259 --> 00:22:22,920 I don't know, the cognitive dissonance to both 590 00:22:23,474 --> 00:22:26,115 speak out against what I see is us 591 00:22:26,115 --> 00:22:27,174 careening toward, 592 00:22:27,794 --> 00:22:28,454 you know, 593 00:22:29,075 --> 00:22:29,894 in a authoritarian 594 00:22:30,275 --> 00:22:30,775 regime 595 00:22:31,394 --> 00:22:31,894 and, 596 00:22:33,234 --> 00:22:35,974 some you know, speaking out against unconstitutional 597 00:22:36,275 --> 00:22:39,460 things that are happening while also doing doing 598 00:22:39,460 --> 00:22:42,039 the job and representing the district. So 599 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:45,400 we have been able to get funding for, 600 00:22:46,019 --> 00:22:46,839 for infrastructure, 601 00:22:47,220 --> 00:22:51,400 for community projects, for, you know, water, sewer, 602 00:22:52,744 --> 00:22:53,724 for the hospital. 603 00:22:54,744 --> 00:22:57,144 If we're able to get our land spills 604 00:22:57,144 --> 00:22:57,644 through, 605 00:22:58,505 --> 00:23:01,224 I you know, I've introduced the Southwest Oregon 606 00:23:01,224 --> 00:23:03,164 Watershed and Salmon Protection Act 607 00:23:04,299 --> 00:23:06,960 and and the Smith River National Recreational 608 00:23:07,339 --> 00:23:08,960 Area Expansion Act. 609 00:23:09,259 --> 00:23:11,500 Those are going to be included if we 610 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:13,920 can get a land package through. 611 00:23:15,180 --> 00:23:16,000 And that 612 00:23:16,619 --> 00:23:18,240 that's really, really important 613 00:23:19,654 --> 00:23:20,154 for 614 00:23:20,534 --> 00:23:23,575 protecting the water of, you know, Southern Oregon 615 00:23:23,575 --> 00:23:24,794 and Northern California. 616 00:23:25,734 --> 00:23:28,714 So there are things that we're getting done, 617 00:23:28,774 --> 00:23:30,875 not as much as we should. The administration 618 00:23:31,494 --> 00:23:34,380 is being, of course, you know, when Democrats 619 00:23:34,380 --> 00:23:36,619 are in control, Republicans are in control, they 620 00:23:36,619 --> 00:23:38,940 can write the rules. But this is the 621 00:23:38,940 --> 00:23:39,919 only president 622 00:23:40,460 --> 00:23:41,440 in my lifetime 623 00:23:42,140 --> 00:23:42,720 that has 624 00:23:43,099 --> 00:23:46,619 openly said today, last night or today, it's 625 00:23:46,619 --> 00:23:48,195 it's so hard to 626 00:23:49,295 --> 00:23:50,815 know what was said when. But are you 627 00:23:50,815 --> 00:23:52,654 laughing? Twenty four seven. President 628 00:23:53,615 --> 00:23:54,835 yeah. Right. 629 00:23:55,295 --> 00:23:57,455 You know, while he was up at night, 630 00:23:57,455 --> 00:23:58,035 you know, 631 00:23:58,975 --> 00:24:00,994 posting on on whatever social, 632 00:24:01,339 --> 00:24:04,000 he said that Democrats are the enemy. 633 00:24:04,299 --> 00:24:06,400 Like, he compared us to Iran. 634 00:24:06,779 --> 00:24:08,160 We represent people. 635 00:24:09,180 --> 00:24:13,180 We're elected members of a congressional body, and 636 00:24:13,180 --> 00:24:16,664 this president has basically said we are the 637 00:24:16,884 --> 00:24:19,444 enemies of the state. We're the enemies of 638 00:24:19,444 --> 00:24:22,085 the state because we're calling out the fact 639 00:24:22,085 --> 00:24:22,984 that unconstitutional 640 00:24:23,525 --> 00:24:24,505 things are happening. 641 00:24:25,285 --> 00:24:27,960 This should be something that everyone 642 00:24:28,819 --> 00:24:29,319 everyone, 643 00:24:29,619 --> 00:24:32,259 no matter what party they're in, should call 644 00:24:32,259 --> 00:24:35,160 out as wrongs. Me speaking out 645 00:24:35,779 --> 00:24:36,519 in disagreement 646 00:24:37,700 --> 00:24:39,859 to someone on the other side of the 647 00:24:39,859 --> 00:24:41,079 aisle to a Republican 648 00:24:41,625 --> 00:24:43,545 doesn't make me an enemy of the state. 649 00:24:43,545 --> 00:24:45,704 But when that language is used by a 650 00:24:45,704 --> 00:24:46,204 president, 651 00:24:47,384 --> 00:24:50,265 it is a serious escalation. We're now gonna 652 00:24:50,265 --> 00:24:51,964 see ICE in our airport. 653 00:24:52,825 --> 00:24:54,984 Right? And Yeah. They're not just gonna be 654 00:24:54,984 --> 00:24:56,285 operating at TSA. 655 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:00,320 That mean checking IDs of anyone coming to 656 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,559 the airport. Right? While they're holding an AR 657 00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:05,119 16 in there, Maria, they're gonna be there 658 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,279 with their weapons drawn while they're checking your 659 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:07,779 ID. 660 00:25:09,345 --> 00:25:12,804 Right. So, I think those things are really, 661 00:25:13,744 --> 00:25:16,325 they're very dangerous, and we as Americans 662 00:25:16,944 --> 00:25:19,825 should stand up whatever party we're in and 663 00:25:19,825 --> 00:25:21,765 take back a check and balances 664 00:25:22,464 --> 00:25:22,964 that 665 00:25:23,299 --> 00:25:24,519 that we as Americans 666 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:29,160 are are provided by in our constitution, 667 00:25:29,779 --> 00:25:31,799 and it makes us stronger 668 00:25:32,339 --> 00:25:33,640 when we work together 669 00:25:34,019 --> 00:25:35,835 on things that we can agree on. But 670 00:25:35,835 --> 00:25:38,174 even if we can't disagree we can't agree, 671 00:25:38,714 --> 00:25:39,694 I shouldn't be 672 00:25:40,075 --> 00:25:42,315 called by the president an enemy of the 673 00:25:42,315 --> 00:25:44,414 state because I'm saying, hey. I think 674 00:25:44,794 --> 00:25:47,115 pedophiles should be prosecuted, and we shouldn't be 675 00:25:47,115 --> 00:25:48,794 at war blowing up our budget or in 676 00:25:48,794 --> 00:25:51,359 murdering, you know, having our our our people 677 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,519 murdered. I I mean, that seems pretty basic. 678 00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:55,200 It's not. I'll I'll say I consider you 679 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,899 a patriot for speaking out 680 00:25:57,279 --> 00:25:59,759 against that. So Yes. Thank you for doing 681 00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:02,000 it. Yeah. I wanna circle around a little, 682 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,139 if I may, representative. 683 00:26:03,734 --> 00:26:05,674 And I noticed in your press releases 684 00:26:06,055 --> 00:26:08,535 early in February that you had secured over 685 00:26:08,535 --> 00:26:10,714 $16,600,000 686 00:26:10,934 --> 00:26:13,755 for 15 different local community projects. 687 00:26:14,055 --> 00:26:15,414 I think you touched on a couple of 688 00:26:15,414 --> 00:26:16,960 them a minute ago, but I was just 689 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,559 wondering if you might give us a quick 690 00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:20,179 idea of what some of those are. 691 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,839 If you can remember that far back because 692 00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:25,859 there's been so much going on. Yeah. 693 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,059 There's been so much gone and, 694 00:26:30,525 --> 00:26:33,484 gone on, and we're we're actually coming up 695 00:26:33,484 --> 00:26:35,105 on another round of community, 696 00:26:36,045 --> 00:26:37,025 project funding. 697 00:26:38,765 --> 00:26:41,505 But one that was that I was 698 00:26:42,285 --> 00:26:43,500 most proud of 699 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,380 was, 700 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,960 in Curry County at the Cancer Treatment Center. 701 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,380 We had people in Curry County 702 00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:51,579 that were, 703 00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:55,319 having to go up to Eugene and drive 704 00:26:55,319 --> 00:26:57,674 back in all kinds of weather. That's like, 705 00:26:57,755 --> 00:26:59,355 what is that? Seven and a half hours 706 00:26:59,355 --> 00:27:02,715 round trip. Right? Yep. At best. And while 707 00:27:02,715 --> 00:27:05,355 you're getting chemo, while you're sick, while you 708 00:27:05,355 --> 00:27:07,914 have cancer. And so getting money for that 709 00:27:07,914 --> 00:27:10,815 cancer treatment center was really important. 710 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,080 Also, we've gotten money for, 711 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,619 dredging the ports. 712 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:15,660 The district, 713 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:16,859 as 714 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,460 as it was redistricted, 715 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,039 was made into a coastal district. Right? You 716 00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:24,380 used to have three congressional representative 717 00:27:25,024 --> 00:27:27,505 representing the coast. So now I represent two 718 00:27:27,505 --> 00:27:28,005 thirds. 719 00:27:28,704 --> 00:27:32,224 Suzanne Bonamici represents one third. So I'm able 720 00:27:32,224 --> 00:27:35,505 to focus on coastal issues, whether that's dredging 721 00:27:35,505 --> 00:27:37,605 of port, commercial fishing, 722 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:39,059 tourism, 723 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,759 housing, and the fact that because we don't 724 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:42,900 have a sales tax. 725 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,600 We have people, tourists that come in, and 726 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,660 they don't pay 727 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,080 towards water and sewer and those other kinds 728 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:50,740 of things. 729 00:27:51,194 --> 00:27:53,355 We have the travel and lodging tax, and 730 00:27:53,355 --> 00:27:56,075 that that's one thing. But, we've been able 731 00:27:56,075 --> 00:27:58,414 to get those kind of infrastructure 732 00:27:59,034 --> 00:28:00,015 projects funded. 733 00:28:00,474 --> 00:28:02,075 So if I may point out in Curry 734 00:28:02,075 --> 00:28:03,434 in Curry a lot of them. In Curry 735 00:28:03,434 --> 00:28:05,355 County representative that you brought, I think it 736 00:28:05,355 --> 00:28:07,090 was a little over a million dollars to 737 00:28:07,090 --> 00:28:10,049 Curry County to improve our county jail, which 738 00:28:10,049 --> 00:28:11,029 has been needed 739 00:28:11,490 --> 00:28:13,090 for a really long time. And I don't 740 00:28:13,090 --> 00:28:14,769 know if that's a drop in the bucket 741 00:28:14,769 --> 00:28:15,970 or if it's gonna be a good part 742 00:28:15,970 --> 00:28:17,570 of the bucket, but thank you for doing 743 00:28:17,570 --> 00:28:19,570 that. And, also, there was a million dollars 744 00:28:19,570 --> 00:28:21,924 brought for us to have, work on replacing 745 00:28:21,984 --> 00:28:23,285 aging water infrastructure 746 00:28:23,664 --> 00:28:24,484 here in Brookings 747 00:28:24,944 --> 00:28:27,265 along Easy Street, I believe it is. So 748 00:28:27,265 --> 00:28:29,424 these are dollars that come directly to our 749 00:28:29,424 --> 00:28:30,805 communities and our county 750 00:28:31,265 --> 00:28:33,424 here in Oregon. So thank you for doing 751 00:28:33,424 --> 00:28:35,580 that. I appreciate it greatly. Well, 752 00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:37,720 we do have an issue with the Curry 753 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,080 County Jail. Right? 754 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,380 And that is 755 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,320 we got money for upgrading it, but if 756 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,740 they upgrade it with the money they have, 757 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:46,840 then, 758 00:28:48,025 --> 00:28:50,265 it has to be billed, and and it 759 00:28:50,265 --> 00:28:52,125 needs it. There's no one that disagrees. 760 00:28:52,664 --> 00:28:54,765 It has to be then built 761 00:28:55,785 --> 00:28:58,184 completely up to code, which is a much 762 00:28:58,184 --> 00:28:59,805 more expensive proposition, 763 00:29:00,505 --> 00:29:02,424 and we don't have the money to do 764 00:29:02,424 --> 00:29:02,880 that. 765 00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:04,579 So 766 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,160 this catch 22 of we want to have 767 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:08,660 improvements 768 00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:12,240 and need the ability to to make these 769 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:12,740 improvements, 770 00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:15,375 you know, in a in a a staged 771 00:29:15,375 --> 00:29:16,515 piecemeal way. 772 00:29:16,894 --> 00:29:17,394 And, 773 00:29:18,494 --> 00:29:20,755 I'm work trying to work with the state 774 00:29:20,815 --> 00:29:22,994 to figure out how we get that done 775 00:29:23,055 --> 00:29:24,994 because it's so desperately needed. 776 00:29:26,255 --> 00:29:28,490 So for anybody out there, questions or comments, 777 00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:31,049 remember, you can text in here, (541) 778 00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:34,250 661-4098. 779 00:29:34,309 --> 00:29:36,630 Congresswoman, I tell you, my head's spinning with 780 00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:38,470 all the stuff that we're talking about. It's 781 00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:40,970 very important. So I wanna go back, 782 00:29:42,674 --> 00:29:44,674 well, first of all, about the travel. You 783 00:29:44,674 --> 00:29:46,355 talked about that, for a lot of us 784 00:29:46,355 --> 00:29:48,755 here. Now, again, yes, I'm in California, but 785 00:29:48,755 --> 00:29:51,174 I go to Grants Pass and Eureka and 786 00:29:51,234 --> 00:29:53,335 Coos Bay sometimes for medical. 787 00:29:53,779 --> 00:29:54,839 And right now, 788 00:29:55,619 --> 00:29:57,140 a lot of people go to Grants Pass 789 00:29:57,140 --> 00:29:59,779 in Medford, and they're going to start having 790 00:29:59,779 --> 00:30:02,279 four hour delays on January, 791 00:30:03,059 --> 00:30:05,460 which could just When is that? Sorry. I 792 00:30:05,460 --> 00:30:08,265 I think in early May or late April. 793 00:30:08,505 --> 00:30:10,424 How long is it gonna last? For you 794 00:30:10,505 --> 00:30:12,825 a few weeks. So now again, take It's 795 00:30:12,825 --> 00:30:15,305 not only driving to these places. It's getting 796 00:30:15,305 --> 00:30:15,884 the appointments 797 00:30:16,424 --> 00:30:17,785 to go there. I have a I have 798 00:30:17,785 --> 00:30:21,065 a a, neurologist appointment in August, believe it 799 00:30:21,065 --> 00:30:23,200 or not. Yes. Yeah. I mean, 800 00:30:23,740 --> 00:30:26,059 and, Congressman, your district, would it would the 801 00:30:26,059 --> 00:30:29,519 whole district be considered rural, I'm guessing? Or 802 00:30:30,220 --> 00:30:31,839 or No. No. 803 00:30:32,220 --> 00:30:33,759 I have Eugene, Springfield, 804 00:30:34,220 --> 00:30:35,694 Odalys. Safe. Okay. 805 00:30:37,035 --> 00:30:39,595 So, like, all of Blaine County. So there's 806 00:30:39,595 --> 00:30:42,734 some urban areas. I have Lincoln, Kitty, 807 00:30:43,035 --> 00:30:43,535 Newport, 808 00:30:44,634 --> 00:30:45,535 Coos Bay, 809 00:30:46,394 --> 00:30:48,954 you know, every everyone, like, in in all 810 00:30:48,954 --> 00:30:51,470 those counties. So I have some are urban, 811 00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:53,950 but all of those are massive, predominantly 812 00:30:54,330 --> 00:30:56,170 rural. If I may, there all of those 813 00:30:56,170 --> 00:30:58,490 urban areas have a lot of rural attached 814 00:30:58,490 --> 00:31:00,089 to them. That's where I was thinking too. 815 00:31:00,089 --> 00:31:03,309 Yeah. They every single one of my counties 816 00:31:03,369 --> 00:31:04,190 has rural. 817 00:31:04,805 --> 00:31:07,125 Oh, yeah. You know, it it has has 818 00:31:07,125 --> 00:31:08,345 has significant 819 00:31:08,644 --> 00:31:11,444 rural areas, and that's why, you know, I 820 00:31:11,444 --> 00:31:13,944 feel very lucky. And I think we would, 821 00:31:16,484 --> 00:31:19,065 we would do much better if more districts 822 00:31:19,525 --> 00:31:20,069 were mixed 823 00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:22,789 where you can't get elected with just one 824 00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:23,929 party or another. 825 00:31:24,309 --> 00:31:26,630 And the I mean, this is what's wrong 826 00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:29,130 with our democracy. First of all, Citizens United, 827 00:31:29,509 --> 00:31:32,470 money money in politics where where people can 828 00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:34,250 buy elections with dark money. 829 00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:35,369 And then 830 00:31:35,835 --> 00:31:36,494 also, the 831 00:31:37,355 --> 00:31:37,855 gerrymandering 832 00:31:38,634 --> 00:31:39,934 where we don't have 833 00:31:40,234 --> 00:31:42,414 we we have very few swing districts 834 00:31:42,875 --> 00:31:46,154 anymore. And that means that people only we 835 00:31:46,234 --> 00:31:48,880 we're we're electing the most extreme of each 836 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,380 party, 837 00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:50,740 and that's not 838 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,920 that's not helpful. I I I I I 839 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,099 think we should redo our election system. 840 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,400 I believe, like, we should be in a 841 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:58,900 multiparty. 842 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:01,299 I I think a multiparty 843 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,174 coalition government would be better. But right now, 844 00:32:05,174 --> 00:32:08,134 we have a president that doesn't even want 845 00:32:08,134 --> 00:32:09,035 to work with 846 00:32:09,575 --> 00:32:10,554 half of the people 847 00:32:11,095 --> 00:32:13,015 that are that have been elected in congress. 848 00:32:13,015 --> 00:32:14,855 So we have we have bigger issues right 849 00:32:14,855 --> 00:32:16,615 now. Oh, do you see any And he's 850 00:32:16,615 --> 00:32:18,990 he's trying to elect his own voters, essentially. 851 00:32:18,990 --> 00:32:20,769 We're voting in reverse. So he wants 852 00:32:21,070 --> 00:32:22,990 to have Well pick out his voters, and 853 00:32:22,990 --> 00:32:24,670 that's all that's gonna vote. And that's a 854 00:32:24,670 --> 00:32:27,470 huge about elections. Let's if we can delve 855 00:32:27,470 --> 00:32:30,750 it into a little bit, the, generally, the 856 00:32:30,750 --> 00:32:33,965 Republicans' disdain for mail in voting. I've never 857 00:32:33,965 --> 00:32:36,285 understood that. Let me grab that. Please. Because 858 00:32:36,365 --> 00:32:38,205 and and the other part is the they 859 00:32:38,445 --> 00:32:39,505 oh, it's fraudulent. 860 00:32:40,045 --> 00:32:41,404 As far as I can see, and I'm 861 00:32:41,404 --> 00:32:44,445 no expert, but there's not enough voter fraud 862 00:32:44,445 --> 00:32:46,605 to really make mail in voting an issue. 863 00:32:46,605 --> 00:32:48,625 That's kind of how I see it, congresswoman 864 00:32:48,919 --> 00:32:50,519 congresswoman. Well, all you have to do is 865 00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:52,220 shout. It's filled with fraud, 866 00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:54,359 filled with fraud, filled with fraud. And you 867 00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:56,200 say it enough times. Enough times. And it's 868 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,019 true. Yeah. 869 00:32:58,919 --> 00:33:01,099 Well, there's been a decades long 870 00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:03,419 effort to undermine 871 00:33:06,264 --> 00:33:09,304 Voting. Voter integrity. Right? Like and and people 872 00:33:09,304 --> 00:33:09,804 voting, 873 00:33:10,105 --> 00:33:10,605 but 874 00:33:11,625 --> 00:33:13,404 people's belief in the system. 875 00:33:13,865 --> 00:33:15,804 And so a lot of misinformation 876 00:33:16,424 --> 00:33:17,484 has gone out. 877 00:33:17,809 --> 00:33:20,450 The amount of voter fraud is so small, 878 00:33:20,450 --> 00:33:21,589 and you have to 879 00:33:21,890 --> 00:33:23,109 understand that, 880 00:33:23,569 --> 00:33:25,349 you know, when someone 881 00:33:25,890 --> 00:33:26,869 signs something, 882 00:33:27,170 --> 00:33:27,670 right, 883 00:33:29,009 --> 00:33:31,329 to say, yes. I am a I am 884 00:33:31,329 --> 00:33:33,914 a citizen, and I am eligible to vote. 885 00:33:34,615 --> 00:33:35,755 By doing that, 886 00:33:36,375 --> 00:33:37,274 they're certifying, 887 00:33:37,734 --> 00:33:39,835 right, under penalty of a felony 888 00:33:40,454 --> 00:33:40,954 prosecution 889 00:33:41,654 --> 00:33:44,019 that they are eligible to vote. And I 890 00:33:44,019 --> 00:33:46,980 think voter fraud should be prosecuted to the 891 00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:48,740 fullest extent of the law. For sure. But 892 00:33:48,740 --> 00:33:50,519 it is very, very small. 893 00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:53,460 And I'll tell you what about, you know, 894 00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:54,359 vote by mail. 895 00:33:54,740 --> 00:33:58,039 That was promoted by Norma Polis, who was 896 00:33:58,335 --> 00:34:01,474 a Republican secretary of state. Our last Republican 897 00:34:01,615 --> 00:34:03,474 secretary of state, Dennis Richardson, 898 00:34:04,575 --> 00:34:06,115 nobody would call him 899 00:34:07,054 --> 00:34:09,934 liberal or even moderate, but he was very 900 00:34:09,934 --> 00:34:12,655 clear. Our vote by mail system is safe. 901 00:34:12,655 --> 00:34:14,400 Now let let me tell you what would 902 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:14,900 happen, 903 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,900 if, you know, they canceled vote by mail, 904 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,079 especially in our rural communities. To their union. 905 00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:24,239 Right? Yeah. That would mean people would have 906 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,019 to take off a day from work 907 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:26,900 that 908 00:34:27,284 --> 00:34:29,144 they would have to drive 909 00:34:29,525 --> 00:34:32,184 to a polling place $5 a gallon. 910 00:34:33,605 --> 00:34:35,144 Get $5 a gallon, 911 00:34:35,684 --> 00:34:38,085 in a rural and frontier counties, that is 912 00:34:38,085 --> 00:34:40,264 a that that's a major problem. 913 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,579 And then, 914 00:34:43,319 --> 00:34:46,119 yeah, it it basically we would have to 915 00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:48,440 set up an entirely new system before our 916 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,500 November election. 917 00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:51,980 And so vote by mail 918 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,644 with our voters pamphlet, where everybody gets to 919 00:34:55,644 --> 00:34:56,844 put 325 920 00:34:56,844 --> 00:34:59,324 words in, I I bring in voters' pamphlets 921 00:34:59,324 --> 00:35:01,324 to show my colleagues, and they're like, every 922 00:35:01,324 --> 00:35:03,184 voter gets this. I'm like, absolutely. 923 00:35:03,885 --> 00:35:05,905 I mean, that evens out 924 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,659 access to to voter information. 925 00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:11,619 But vote by mail is the safest 926 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,400 way to vote, and you have a paper 927 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:14,880 copy. 928 00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:16,659 Senator Wyden and I, 929 00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:19,994 have sponsored a national vote by mail bill, 930 00:35:20,795 --> 00:35:22,954 so that every state could do this because 931 00:35:22,954 --> 00:35:25,355 it is the safest, most secure means to 932 00:35:25,355 --> 00:35:25,855 vote. 933 00:35:26,394 --> 00:35:28,715 But what we have now is what the 934 00:35:28,715 --> 00:35:31,835 Republicans call the save act. I call the 935 00:35:31,835 --> 00:35:34,635 steal act because it queuing our act. You're 936 00:35:34,635 --> 00:35:35,135 balancing 937 00:35:35,595 --> 00:35:38,130 on that. Yes. You know, places like Florida, 938 00:35:38,130 --> 00:35:38,869 you you 939 00:35:39,329 --> 00:35:41,329 you have to stand online for three hours 940 00:35:41,329 --> 00:35:42,309 to vote. That's, 941 00:35:43,090 --> 00:35:43,989 it's unbelievable. 942 00:35:44,730 --> 00:35:45,230 Well, 943 00:35:45,969 --> 00:35:46,469 so 944 00:35:47,090 --> 00:35:48,150 there has been 945 00:35:49,644 --> 00:35:51,905 data showing that 82% 946 00:35:51,964 --> 00:35:52,704 of Americans, 947 00:35:53,164 --> 00:35:53,824 you know, 948 00:35:54,605 --> 00:35:56,545 support the say back. No. 949 00:35:57,244 --> 00:35:58,364 82% 950 00:35:58,364 --> 00:35:59,105 of Americans 951 00:36:00,605 --> 00:36:01,105 support 952 00:36:01,405 --> 00:36:02,545 some kind of 953 00:36:03,219 --> 00:36:04,200 voter identification 954 00:36:05,619 --> 00:36:06,760 that in theory. 955 00:36:07,460 --> 00:36:10,019 But when you go down and and and 956 00:36:10,019 --> 00:36:12,579 in the same hole, you go down and 957 00:36:12,579 --> 00:36:13,079 say, 958 00:36:13,380 --> 00:36:15,785 you know, would you if you're a married 959 00:36:15,785 --> 00:36:18,184 woman, do do you have a passport? I 960 00:36:18,184 --> 00:36:20,125 I you have to bring your birth certificate 961 00:36:20,345 --> 00:36:21,724 and your marriage certificate. 962 00:36:22,105 --> 00:36:23,945 And you have to go to and, again, 963 00:36:23,945 --> 00:36:26,204 this affects our rural and frontier counties 964 00:36:26,505 --> 00:36:28,440 the most. You would have to go to 965 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,119 your elections office, right, driving at $5.06, 966 00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:33,420 $7 a gallon 967 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,019 to show them 968 00:36:35,559 --> 00:36:37,880 all of this these IDs or get a 969 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,300 passport for a $180 970 00:36:40,585 --> 00:36:42,265 that will take I don't know how long 971 00:36:42,265 --> 00:36:43,724 because the Doge Bros 972 00:36:44,184 --> 00:36:46,285 fired a whole bunch of people that processed 973 00:36:46,344 --> 00:36:49,144 that. I mean, this will stop people from 974 00:36:49,144 --> 00:36:51,405 voting, and I I don't think 975 00:36:51,785 --> 00:36:54,364 people understand how much it will affect 976 00:36:54,780 --> 00:36:57,840 our rural and frontier counties even more so 977 00:36:58,140 --> 00:37:01,920 than our our urban areas. Like, most people 978 00:37:02,059 --> 00:37:04,480 in this district do not have a passport. 979 00:37:04,860 --> 00:37:06,480 I have my Real ID license. 980 00:37:07,434 --> 00:37:10,234 It's not valid, and people don't understand that 981 00:37:10,234 --> 00:37:11,295 that your license 982 00:37:11,755 --> 00:37:14,635 is not something that's valid, that, you know, 983 00:37:14,635 --> 00:37:17,135 it takes time to go back and get, 984 00:37:17,275 --> 00:37:18,175 you know, your 985 00:37:18,635 --> 00:37:21,170 your birth certificate, your marriage certificate because I 986 00:37:21,170 --> 00:37:23,250 changed my name when I got married. So 987 00:37:23,250 --> 00:37:24,869 there's 900,000 988 00:37:24,930 --> 00:37:26,710 Oregon women who got married 989 00:37:27,170 --> 00:37:29,809 and changed their last name that would be 990 00:37:29,809 --> 00:37:31,269 kicked off the voter rolls. 991 00:37:32,289 --> 00:37:34,849 You know, there's there are elderly Americans without 992 00:37:34,849 --> 00:37:37,565 birth certificates. There was, I think two years 993 00:37:37,565 --> 00:37:38,625 ago in Ohio, 994 00:37:39,244 --> 00:37:41,964 there was, a nun. She was, you know, 995 00:37:41,964 --> 00:37:44,364 almost 90 years old. She had never birth 996 00:37:44,364 --> 00:37:44,864 certificate. 997 00:37:45,484 --> 00:37:47,644 She was not allowed to vote, and she 998 00:37:47,804 --> 00:37:50,280 she's been voting. She was a nun, for 999 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,519 goodness sake, from that gelee who lived in 1000 00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:54,619 the convent. Right. This is crazy. 1001 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,280 So Oregon's elections are secure. We also have 1002 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,700 seen an attack on the US postal service. 1003 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,014 I have talked to postal workers, and they 1004 00:38:03,014 --> 00:38:04,074 are being told 1005 00:38:04,375 --> 00:38:05,835 that they can't work overtime 1006 00:38:06,614 --> 00:38:09,255 even those ops have been you know, jobs 1007 00:38:09,255 --> 00:38:10,954 have been cut. They're very understaffed, 1008 00:38:11,494 --> 00:38:13,734 and that they should just leave the mail 1009 00:38:13,734 --> 00:38:15,434 there. You know, postmarking 1010 00:38:15,815 --> 00:38:16,315 things, 1011 00:38:17,319 --> 00:38:20,300 the delaying the postmark is specifically 1012 00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:24,359 focused on attacking vote by mail so that 1013 00:38:24,359 --> 00:38:27,159 your postmark is later. And when the postmark 1014 00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:29,079 is later, that means your vote doesn't get 1015 00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:30,565 counted. So this administration 1016 00:38:31,264 --> 00:38:32,164 is specifically 1017 00:38:32,704 --> 00:38:34,324 slowing down our mail 1018 00:38:34,625 --> 00:38:35,364 to affect 1019 00:38:35,904 --> 00:38:37,344 vote by mail. How 1020 00:38:38,065 --> 00:38:39,444 like, that's just 1021 00:38:39,904 --> 00:38:42,065 that's just the eagle. It's a point of 1022 00:38:42,065 --> 00:38:42,964 view. A constitutional 1023 00:38:43,664 --> 00:38:44,969 right. It is a constitutional 1024 00:38:45,590 --> 00:38:47,590 right to make our voices heard. But as 1025 00:38:47,590 --> 00:38:49,989 we have seen in Georgia, we have seen 1026 00:38:49,989 --> 00:38:50,730 in Texas, 1027 00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:53,670 we where more Democrats came out to vote 1028 00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:54,410 than Republicans, 1029 00:38:54,949 --> 00:38:57,375 we are seeing everywhere that 1030 00:38:57,855 --> 00:39:00,574 voters are not voting for they're not happy 1031 00:39:00,574 --> 00:39:01,715 with the Trump administration. 1032 00:39:02,255 --> 00:39:03,875 So instead of owning that 1033 00:39:04,175 --> 00:39:06,414 and adding some checks and balances and free 1034 00:39:06,414 --> 00:39:07,394 and fair elections 1035 00:39:07,775 --> 00:39:09,449 and earning Americans votes, 1036 00:39:09,929 --> 00:39:11,609 what they wanna do is stop us from 1037 00:39:11,609 --> 00:39:13,949 being able to vote. This is a constitutional 1038 00:39:14,409 --> 00:39:16,989 right that we should fight for. Boy, howdy. 1039 00:39:17,050 --> 00:39:18,730 You know, we have a text. I wanna 1040 00:39:18,730 --> 00:39:20,329 get this text in that we just got, 1041 00:39:20,329 --> 00:39:21,530 and thank you for the text. 1042 00:39:22,315 --> 00:39:23,135 It it says, 1043 00:39:23,755 --> 00:39:25,914 it is unfortunate that the battle over the 1044 00:39:25,914 --> 00:39:27,135 budget has simplistically 1045 00:39:27,434 --> 00:39:28,894 been branded branded 1046 00:39:29,434 --> 00:39:32,335 as either funding ICE or the TSA employees. 1047 00:39:32,715 --> 00:39:34,015 The anti administration 1048 00:39:34,474 --> 00:39:35,934 stance could be stressing 1049 00:39:36,329 --> 00:39:38,890 instead that we are fighting to eliminate the 1050 00:39:38,890 --> 00:39:42,489 uncertainty and fear that all Americans are living 1051 00:39:42,489 --> 00:39:44,349 with. And this text says, 1052 00:39:45,050 --> 00:39:46,969 they know a person here in Brookings who 1053 00:39:46,969 --> 00:39:48,989 looks like he could be of the wrong 1054 00:39:49,130 --> 00:39:49,630 ancestry, 1055 00:39:50,424 --> 00:39:52,664 and so he carries his passport with him 1056 00:39:52,664 --> 00:39:54,424 at all times. I don't have a passport 1057 00:39:54,424 --> 00:39:57,144 either. In case ice should appear in our 1058 00:39:57,144 --> 00:39:57,644 streets, 1059 00:39:58,025 --> 00:40:00,505 the fear is everywhere. I know a woman 1060 00:40:00,505 --> 00:40:01,864 that does I know a woman that does 1061 00:40:01,864 --> 00:40:03,565 the same thing. Well, it's not an exaggerate 1062 00:40:03,875 --> 00:40:04,375 exaggeration. 1063 00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:07,940 So thank you for that text. 1064 00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:12,079 Yeah. I and that's exactly right. We are 1065 00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:12,980 seeing Americans 1066 00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:15,139 that happen to look like immigrants. 1067 00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:18,614 Right? American citizens that are being picked up 1068 00:40:18,775 --> 00:40:19,514 and sometimes 1069 00:40:19,815 --> 00:40:20,315 detained, 1070 00:40:20,855 --> 00:40:21,994 right, just because 1071 00:40:22,614 --> 00:40:23,514 they look 1072 00:40:23,974 --> 00:40:25,815 like they might be an immigrant. So they 1073 00:40:25,815 --> 00:40:28,855 have brown skin. We're seeing immigrants who are 1074 00:40:28,855 --> 00:40:29,675 here legally, 1075 00:40:30,614 --> 00:40:33,420 right, Who are here legally, whether they're DACA 1076 00:40:33,420 --> 00:40:33,920 recipients 1077 00:40:34,219 --> 00:40:37,659 or they're refugees. They have legal status. They 1078 00:40:37,659 --> 00:40:40,400 are following the rules. They are being detained. 1079 00:40:40,460 --> 00:40:42,460 We have an a man who comes from 1080 00:40:42,460 --> 00:40:42,960 Ethiopia. 1081 00:40:43,655 --> 00:40:46,695 They're literally he is a deacon in in 1082 00:40:46,695 --> 00:40:47,514 in his church. 1083 00:40:47,974 --> 00:40:48,474 He, 1084 00:40:49,815 --> 00:40:51,835 worked and earned his his, 1085 00:40:52,454 --> 00:40:54,234 bachelor's, master's, and PhD 1086 00:40:54,695 --> 00:40:56,695 here in The United States. We have four 1087 00:40:56,695 --> 00:40:59,239 children and a white who are American citizen. 1088 00:40:59,860 --> 00:41:01,780 And they are not only not they're not 1089 00:41:01,780 --> 00:41:03,719 only planning to support him 1090 00:41:04,019 --> 00:41:05,559 over her paperwork error, 1091 00:41:06,019 --> 00:41:06,519 but 1092 00:41:06,820 --> 00:41:09,160 because they can't get paperwork from Ethiopia, 1093 00:41:09,539 --> 00:41:11,719 they're going to turn into a third country 1094 00:41:12,065 --> 00:41:14,305 where he doesn't take the language, where he 1095 00:41:14,305 --> 00:41:15,445 doesn't have family. 1096 00:41:15,825 --> 00:41:17,585 Great. And and I mean, I went to 1097 00:41:17,585 --> 00:41:20,164 see him, and he just cried. He's like, 1098 00:41:20,305 --> 00:41:22,224 you know, my wife just got diagnosed with 1099 00:41:22,224 --> 00:41:24,625 a brain tumor. I want to be with 1100 00:41:24,625 --> 00:41:26,849 my children and my family. And can you 1101 00:41:28,930 --> 00:41:32,130 please? That's not what people voted for. You 1102 00:41:32,130 --> 00:41:35,349 want to support people who committed funds? Absolutely. 1103 00:41:36,450 --> 00:41:37,329 Oh, and pray not 1104 00:41:38,369 --> 00:41:39,670 not what's happening, sir. 1105 00:41:39,970 --> 00:41:41,349 If this guy was an Africanist, 1106 00:41:43,385 --> 00:41:43,885 escaping, 1107 00:41:44,585 --> 00:41:47,464 what Trump calls South Africa. Gang violence, then 1108 00:41:47,464 --> 00:41:49,545 he would be welcomed with open arms. But 1109 00:41:49,545 --> 00:41:51,304 if he had come from or in the 1110 00:41:51,304 --> 00:41:53,964 Central American countries claiming the same thing, 1111 00:41:54,664 --> 00:41:55,724 he would not be. 1112 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,659 The Afrikanist 1113 00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:58,599 My 1114 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,320 yeah. My, my husband's British. Right? My husband 1115 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,739 became a citizen in 2016. 1116 00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:07,719 I wanna be clear. He had his green 1117 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,135 card before he met me, but, 1118 00:42:10,094 --> 00:42:11,554 you know, he 1119 00:42:12,414 --> 00:42:14,195 he has never been stopped. 1120 00:42:14,574 --> 00:42:15,635 No one ever 1121 00:42:16,175 --> 00:42:19,054 asked him if he is here legally. No 1122 00:42:19,054 --> 00:42:20,894 one you know, we don't we don't care, 1123 00:42:20,894 --> 00:42:23,474 but it because he's a big white guy. 1124 00:42:24,570 --> 00:42:26,510 Right. What's about race and racism? 1125 00:42:27,050 --> 00:42:30,349 You know? Well, yeah. But I think that 1126 00:42:30,730 --> 00:42:33,070 I'll just say it in my opinion. Racism, 1127 00:42:33,610 --> 00:42:34,110 misogyny, 1128 00:42:36,090 --> 00:42:36,675 and a 1129 00:42:37,394 --> 00:42:38,515 bunch of other stuff, 1130 00:42:38,914 --> 00:42:41,074 that I can't think of is is part 1131 00:42:41,074 --> 00:42:42,215 of this administration. 1132 00:42:42,594 --> 00:42:44,515 How you know, when when he's taking all 1133 00:42:44,515 --> 00:42:47,315 the references to to slavery and, 1134 00:42:47,795 --> 00:42:50,215 black problems out of the some Smithsonian, 1135 00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:54,579 changing names of forts back to to 1136 00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:55,859 civil war 1137 00:42:56,559 --> 00:42:57,059 generals, 1138 00:42:57,839 --> 00:43:00,159 just doing incredible amount of racist things. I 1139 00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:01,940 just read this morning that there 1140 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,799 there's, national parks around the country where they're 1141 00:43:04,799 --> 00:43:06,500 taking down a lot of the signs 1142 00:43:06,914 --> 00:43:09,094 that give our country a a bad name. 1143 00:43:10,515 --> 00:43:11,554 So I'm on the, 1144 00:43:12,755 --> 00:43:16,114 transportation and infrastructure and natural resources committees on 1145 00:43:16,114 --> 00:43:18,755 the ranking so highest ranking Democrat on the 1146 00:43:18,755 --> 00:43:21,335 water, wildlife, and fisheries subcommittee because, 1147 00:43:22,130 --> 00:43:25,329 you know, with 250 miles of ocean and 1148 00:43:25,329 --> 00:43:26,869 all the rivers, stream, 1149 00:43:27,489 --> 00:43:28,230 you know, 1150 00:43:29,809 --> 00:43:33,489 lump like like forests and other natural resource 1151 00:43:33,489 --> 00:43:34,869 issues, these are two 1152 00:43:35,170 --> 00:43:37,965 really important committees for the district. But we 1153 00:43:37,965 --> 00:43:40,525 had a committee hearing, and I I don't 1154 00:43:40,525 --> 00:43:42,224 normally lose my temper. 1155 00:43:42,605 --> 00:43:45,025 But a colleague of mine from North Carolina 1156 00:43:45,805 --> 00:43:48,525 said after Jim Clyburn spoke and said, how 1157 00:43:48,525 --> 00:43:49,744 can you erase 1158 00:43:50,364 --> 00:43:51,105 my history? 1159 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,780 Erase the fact that slavery ever happened. 1160 00:43:55,159 --> 00:43:55,659 Erase, 1161 00:43:56,039 --> 00:43:59,099 you know, what the Tuskegee Airmen did. Erase 1162 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,119 all of the things that happened. You know, 1163 00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:04,679 the trail of tears. This is part of 1164 00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:07,394 our history. And my colleague, republican from North 1165 00:44:07,394 --> 00:44:08,454 Carolina, said, 1166 00:44:08,994 --> 00:44:10,835 you know, democrat I don't know. He started 1167 00:44:10,835 --> 00:44:13,015 talking about Joe Biden in an auto pen. 1168 00:44:13,075 --> 00:44:15,555 That was below a creative boot. And and 1169 00:44:15,555 --> 00:44:16,215 and then, 1170 00:44:16,675 --> 00:44:18,375 he said, you know, democrat 1171 00:44:18,994 --> 00:44:20,055 want to just 1172 00:44:20,529 --> 00:44:21,829 show how bad, 1173 00:44:22,849 --> 00:44:25,429 America is and only focus on the negative, 1174 00:44:25,650 --> 00:44:27,969 and we need to show how far we've 1175 00:44:27,969 --> 00:44:30,049 come. So I saw, like, popped in and 1176 00:44:30,049 --> 00:44:32,210 said and this was all about going to 1177 00:44:32,210 --> 00:44:34,775 our federal parks and, oh, and the Smithsonian 1178 00:44:35,155 --> 00:44:37,815 and and and our national parks and erasing 1179 00:44:37,954 --> 00:44:38,454 anything 1180 00:44:38,914 --> 00:44:42,114 that is negative and that does not fit 1181 00:44:42,114 --> 00:44:42,614 into, 1182 00:44:43,875 --> 00:44:46,295 a history that is basically 1183 00:44:47,474 --> 00:44:48,375 white supremist. 1184 00:44:48,780 --> 00:44:49,260 And, 1185 00:44:49,739 --> 00:44:51,119 I said, how the hell 1186 00:44:51,579 --> 00:44:52,559 can we tell 1187 00:44:52,940 --> 00:44:54,400 how far we have come 1188 00:44:55,019 --> 00:44:55,519 if 1189 00:44:56,539 --> 00:44:58,320 we don't know where we've been? 1190 00:44:58,619 --> 00:45:00,380 I mean, we can tell how far we've 1191 00:45:00,380 --> 00:45:02,344 come because we look at history. What 1192 00:45:03,684 --> 00:45:05,364 happened in Nazi Germany. We look at what 1193 00:45:05,364 --> 00:45:06,885 happened on the trail of tears. We look 1194 00:45:06,885 --> 00:45:07,625 at what happened 1195 00:45:07,925 --> 00:45:10,724 with, you know, the civil rights marches so 1196 00:45:10,724 --> 00:45:12,565 that, you know Not not if we get 1197 00:45:12,565 --> 00:45:15,284 to rewrite all the tensions. Could vote. We're 1198 00:45:15,284 --> 00:45:17,545 right. That's it. And that's the issue. 1199 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,099 Why are we afraid? 1200 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,500 Why why would they be afraid 1201 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,420 to talk about our history, 1202 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,199 you know, as as Winston Churchill would say, 1203 00:45:26,199 --> 00:45:28,279 worth and all. Worth and all. That's what 1204 00:45:28,279 --> 00:45:30,760 your tree should be. Yeah. And and and 1205 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,359 they don't seem to understand. We're not 1206 00:45:34,025 --> 00:45:35,224 we've done a lot of good stuff this 1207 00:45:35,224 --> 00:45:37,065 country, a lot of good stuff, a lot 1208 00:45:37,065 --> 00:45:38,445 of great people, but, 1209 00:45:39,385 --> 00:45:41,385 I can not say it any better than 1210 00:45:41,385 --> 00:45:43,244 worse at all. We all know what's happened, 1211 00:45:43,545 --> 00:45:44,845 and we need to 1212 00:45:45,224 --> 00:45:47,945 know that history to hopefully not live through 1213 00:45:47,945 --> 00:45:50,170 it again, but we are living through some 1214 00:45:50,170 --> 00:45:52,250 of that stuff again. Yeah. I I I 1215 00:45:52,250 --> 00:45:54,570 think about the the the saying after the 1216 00:45:54,570 --> 00:45:57,849 holocaust, never again. That was battered battered well, 1217 00:45:57,849 --> 00:45:59,150 not battered around, but 1218 00:45:59,530 --> 00:46:01,635 it it has happened again. Stuff like that 1219 00:46:01,635 --> 00:46:03,954 has happened. If you don't understand the history, 1220 00:46:03,954 --> 00:46:05,795 you don't understand what's going on now. Thank 1221 00:46:05,795 --> 00:46:08,594 you. A perfect example is looking at at 1222 00:46:08,594 --> 00:46:09,094 Hitler's, 1223 00:46:09,715 --> 00:46:10,934 march across Europe, 1224 00:46:11,954 --> 00:46:13,335 and going into Czechoslovakia. 1225 00:46:13,635 --> 00:46:15,315 I'm just gonna take this little bit here 1226 00:46:15,315 --> 00:46:16,135 that's actually, 1227 00:46:17,219 --> 00:46:19,300 German anyway, and and then he just walked 1228 00:46:19,460 --> 00:46:22,179 kept on walking. Yeah. And that is that 1229 00:46:22,179 --> 00:46:24,199 is absolutely what would happen in, 1230 00:46:25,860 --> 00:46:26,360 Ukraine. 1231 00:46:27,059 --> 00:46:28,820 Yeah. That's yeah. Just gonna read. Can I 1232 00:46:28,820 --> 00:46:30,894 add to the representative's point? Sorry. Before I 1233 00:46:30,894 --> 00:46:32,755 I while I cut you off, representative. 1234 00:46:33,775 --> 00:46:35,494 But I think it's really important Go ahead. 1235 00:46:35,694 --> 00:46:37,214 Important for us to be able to measure 1236 00:46:37,214 --> 00:46:39,135 our progress. We can't pick up the measuring 1237 00:46:39,135 --> 00:46:39,635 stick. 1238 00:46:40,175 --> 00:46:42,414 As we walk past, if we're gonna measure 1239 00:46:42,414 --> 00:46:44,360 our progress, there has to be some point 1240 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,539 of reference, and we're trying we're removing 1241 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,519 the attempt is to remove the points of 1242 00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:50,360 reference, so there's no way to measure our 1243 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,519 progress. I think it's really important that we 1244 00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:53,960 lay that stick down and keep track of 1245 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,519 where those even the negative points are. So 1246 00:46:56,519 --> 00:46:58,780 thanks for being a run. Yes. Bigly. 1247 00:46:59,454 --> 00:47:00,434 I'm saying that. 1248 00:47:01,454 --> 00:47:02,194 And congresswoman 1249 00:47:02,574 --> 00:47:04,175 oh, I'm sorry. You go ahead. You go 1250 00:47:04,175 --> 00:47:06,255 ahead. No. No. No. No. Go ahead. I 1251 00:47:06,255 --> 00:47:08,574 was just gonna back to where you we 1252 00:47:08,574 --> 00:47:11,474 were talking about Trump in claiming the democrats 1253 00:47:11,614 --> 00:47:13,800 are the enemy, and that's where they're at. 1254 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,280 This is a little snippet of where I 1255 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:16,760 think 1256 00:47:17,079 --> 00:47:19,559 I I believe he's a truly evil man, 1257 00:47:19,559 --> 00:47:21,739 my opinion only. His comment 1258 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:22,940 about 1259 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,699 Robert Mueller passing. 1260 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,820 Now granted they weren't the best of friends, 1261 00:47:28,235 --> 00:47:30,635 but I thought that was pretty hideous. I 1262 00:47:30,635 --> 00:47:32,315 didn't hear what he say. Oh, he said 1263 00:47:32,315 --> 00:47:33,914 he was glad he's dead. Oh, I knew 1264 00:47:33,914 --> 00:47:36,175 that part of it. Glad he's dead. Now 1265 00:47:36,315 --> 00:47:37,994 I I I just thought that was quite 1266 00:47:37,994 --> 00:47:40,474 the horrific comment to make, but it didn't 1267 00:47:40,474 --> 00:47:42,655 surprise me coming from him. 1268 00:47:44,210 --> 00:47:46,049 That's what I'll say about that. And and 1269 00:47:46,049 --> 00:47:48,049 if, you know, if you look at the 1270 00:47:48,049 --> 00:47:49,109 difference between 1271 00:47:50,289 --> 00:47:52,869 the outrage over people who said negative, 1272 00:47:57,224 --> 00:48:00,105 negative things about Charlie Kirk. Right? Well, boy, 1273 00:48:00,105 --> 00:48:01,005 you go. The 1274 00:48:01,464 --> 00:48:01,964 president 1275 00:48:02,424 --> 00:48:03,244 the president 1276 00:48:03,625 --> 00:48:06,844 of The United States is supposed to be 1277 00:48:07,224 --> 00:48:08,204 someone who 1278 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,440 holds himself above reproach, who is supposed to 1279 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,340 be someone 1280 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,820 that the people of this country 1281 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,260 look up to, 1282 00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:19,800 and yet he is being I I mean, 1283 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,199 he just says terrible things about people, and 1284 00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:24,324 we should expect more. Now I'll go back 1285 00:48:24,324 --> 00:48:25,144 to history. 1286 00:48:25,605 --> 00:48:26,265 I mean, 1287 00:48:26,565 --> 00:48:27,065 history 1288 00:48:28,005 --> 00:48:29,545 knowing history is important. 1289 00:48:29,925 --> 00:48:30,824 For instance, 1290 00:48:32,085 --> 00:48:32,824 in Iran, 1291 00:48:33,445 --> 00:48:34,105 you know, 1292 00:48:34,644 --> 00:48:36,744 certainly, you have the Ayatollah Khomeini. 1293 00:48:37,125 --> 00:48:40,339 Right? Yeah. They overthrew the Shah of Iran. 1294 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,179 The Shah of Iran 1295 00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:46,260 was put in by The United States because 1296 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:47,699 the previous 1297 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,500 leader of Iran, 1298 00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:51,619 Mohammed 1299 00:48:52,344 --> 00:48:52,844 Mosaddegh, 1300 00:48:53,864 --> 00:48:56,125 he wanted to was democratically 1301 00:48:56,425 --> 00:48:57,965 elected, very popular, 1302 00:48:58,744 --> 00:49:01,724 and he wanted to audit DP, 1303 00:49:02,585 --> 00:49:05,280 right, for their oil company. Yes. British Petroleum 1304 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,559 with the oil company, again, wars for oil, 1305 00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:10,320 put in the Shah of Iran who was 1306 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,780 also a brutal dictator. 1307 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,420 Right? He just wasn't a religious fanatic. 1308 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,815 So we did that. 1309 00:49:17,295 --> 00:49:19,875 Did not go well. The Ayatollah came in. 1310 00:49:20,014 --> 00:49:21,234 They support Hezbollah. 1311 00:49:21,934 --> 00:49:22,434 They, 1312 00:49:23,295 --> 00:49:25,214 you know, they are a danger to the 1313 00:49:25,214 --> 00:49:25,714 entire 1314 00:49:26,094 --> 00:49:27,315 Middle East. They, 1315 00:49:28,655 --> 00:49:30,434 like, they are a pariah nation, 1316 00:49:30,809 --> 00:49:32,890 but we have to understand how we got 1317 00:49:32,890 --> 00:49:33,390 there 1318 00:49:33,690 --> 00:49:35,369 so that we don't end up doing it 1319 00:49:35,369 --> 00:49:37,449 again. And that's why we need to have 1320 00:49:37,449 --> 00:49:37,949 conversations 1321 00:49:38,489 --> 00:49:39,150 in congress 1322 00:49:39,690 --> 00:49:42,170 before going into war so that we get 1323 00:49:42,170 --> 00:49:43,150 to have transparency 1324 00:49:44,010 --> 00:49:46,855 and talk about what this history is and 1325 00:49:46,855 --> 00:49:47,594 and relay 1326 00:49:47,974 --> 00:49:51,575 the vast majority of my constituents' will, Democrats 1327 00:49:51,575 --> 00:49:54,454 and Republicans, is that we don't end up 1328 00:49:54,454 --> 00:49:57,175 in another foreign war for oil that puts 1329 00:49:57,175 --> 00:49:58,469 Americans in danger. 1330 00:49:59,030 --> 00:50:00,389 Which is where we are right now. And 1331 00:50:00,389 --> 00:50:02,650 I'm glad you brought that point up, representative. 1332 00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:04,630 I think a lot of us forget about 1333 00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:06,650 the fact that we're a representative democracy. 1334 00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:09,690 You represent all of us that live in 1335 00:50:09,989 --> 00:50:13,954 Oregon Congressional District 4. You are our voice 1336 00:50:13,954 --> 00:50:14,934 in that house. 1337 00:50:15,715 --> 00:50:17,155 So if you don't get to speak about 1338 00:50:17,155 --> 00:50:20,135 it because president Trump has just skipped congress, 1339 00:50:20,195 --> 00:50:21,795 how do we ever have our voice heard 1340 00:50:21,795 --> 00:50:23,635 by our president about how we feel about 1341 00:50:23,635 --> 00:50:25,530 this war because you're representing us there? 1342 00:50:26,489 --> 00:50:28,409 There. And I'll let you have And and 1343 00:50:28,409 --> 00:50:30,590 and more and and there's there's 1344 00:50:31,130 --> 00:50:33,390 those points, Brett, you are exactly, 1345 00:50:34,090 --> 00:50:34,590 exactly 1346 00:50:35,130 --> 00:50:35,630 correct. 1347 00:50:36,250 --> 00:50:39,614 And the larger point is there are presidents 1348 00:50:39,835 --> 00:50:42,555 that have tried to exceed their executive power. 1349 00:50:42,555 --> 00:50:43,055 Right? 1350 00:50:44,075 --> 00:50:45,135 That but, 1351 00:50:45,755 --> 00:50:47,375 like, Lyndon Johnson 1352 00:50:47,675 --> 00:50:48,655 wanted to vote. 1353 00:50:49,355 --> 00:50:50,954 You know? He knew how to use his 1354 00:50:50,954 --> 00:50:52,635 power both as president and, 1355 00:50:53,550 --> 00:50:55,090 you know, in the senate. I understand. 1356 00:50:56,430 --> 00:50:58,769 But you had you had a judiciary 1357 00:51:00,590 --> 00:51:01,070 and, 1358 00:51:01,550 --> 00:51:02,289 a congress 1359 00:51:02,670 --> 00:51:04,690 that balanced him out. 1360 00:51:04,989 --> 00:51:06,289 You had Richard Nixon 1361 00:51:06,590 --> 00:51:07,730 where you had Republicans 1362 00:51:08,394 --> 00:51:11,035 that actually came out and said, we need 1363 00:51:11,035 --> 00:51:14,635 to hold our president accountable, and Democrats and 1364 00:51:14,635 --> 00:51:15,135 Republicans 1365 00:51:15,434 --> 00:51:17,215 came together over Watergate, 1366 00:51:17,835 --> 00:51:19,055 you know, to open 1367 00:51:19,355 --> 00:51:22,235 it over something he did wrong. Nixon Nixon 1368 00:51:22,235 --> 00:51:24,190 was not a cult leader, though. That's what 1369 00:51:24,190 --> 00:51:25,949 we have now, people who are back in 1370 00:51:26,110 --> 00:51:28,030 Well, and regardless of what he does. But 1371 00:51:28,030 --> 00:51:28,190 it 1372 00:51:29,550 --> 00:51:31,250 right. And it's our job 1373 00:51:31,630 --> 00:51:33,710 as members of Congress, and I tell this 1374 00:51:33,710 --> 00:51:35,170 to my Republican colleagues, 1375 00:51:35,949 --> 00:51:36,690 Mike Johnson 1376 00:51:36,989 --> 00:51:39,594 does not does not want to buck the 1377 00:51:39,594 --> 00:51:41,934 president. He is loyal to the president 1378 00:51:42,315 --> 00:51:44,335 as opposed to being loyal to the American 1379 00:51:44,394 --> 00:51:46,795 people. If you watched him during watched him 1380 00:51:46,795 --> 00:51:47,275 during the, 1381 00:51:49,674 --> 00:51:51,835 president's speech to to the joint members, I 1382 00:51:51,835 --> 00:51:53,829 can't think of the name right now, And 1383 00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:55,750 Mike Johnson sitting there with that silly grin 1384 00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:57,429 on his face, he looked like Alfred e 1385 00:51:57,429 --> 00:51:59,670 Newman, and he always does when he's standing 1386 00:51:59,670 --> 00:52:01,670 next to the president. Just the And and 1387 00:52:01,670 --> 00:52:03,670 the and the joke that I don't think 1388 00:52:03,670 --> 00:52:05,030 a lot of people got is is, 1389 00:52:06,355 --> 00:52:08,355 Trump bought all these shoes for all his 1390 00:52:08,355 --> 00:52:09,735 his cabinet members, 1391 00:52:10,035 --> 00:52:11,715 and the shoes that he bought for Marco 1392 00:52:11,715 --> 00:52:14,375 Rubio were way too big for Marco Rubio. 1393 00:52:14,595 --> 00:52:15,494 I think it was 1394 00:52:16,114 --> 00:52:17,795 trying to a a lot of people thought 1395 00:52:17,795 --> 00:52:19,394 he just got the size wrong. No. He's 1396 00:52:19,394 --> 00:52:21,349 trying to tell Marco you're filling some pretty 1397 00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:23,670 big Well, Marco is filling shoes that are 1398 00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:25,210 way too big. Yes. He is. 1399 00:52:25,590 --> 00:52:27,829 I think little Marco was probably a good 1400 00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:28,329 description. 1401 00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:29,670 Well, 1402 00:52:30,070 --> 00:52:32,969 There's I mean, you know Yeah. We again, 1403 00:52:33,355 --> 00:52:35,055 what we need is we need 1404 00:52:35,594 --> 00:52:37,135 to have a healthy democracy. 1405 00:52:37,675 --> 00:52:39,454 We need to get money out of politics, 1406 00:52:40,074 --> 00:52:42,414 right, and overturn Citizens United. 1407 00:52:42,875 --> 00:52:43,855 We need to, 1408 00:52:45,515 --> 00:52:48,630 stop the over partisan gerrymandering 1409 00:52:49,010 --> 00:52:51,409 and and have the Supreme Court do their 1410 00:52:51,409 --> 00:52:52,789 job. I'm really concerned, 1411 00:52:53,889 --> 00:52:56,289 that they are gonna overturn the voting rights 1412 00:52:56,289 --> 00:52:57,510 act right in, 1413 00:52:57,889 --> 00:53:00,425 article two, and that will mean 1414 00:53:00,805 --> 00:53:03,305 that there could be much more severe gerrymandering 1415 00:53:03,525 --> 00:53:05,925 of, like, 19 more speeds, which is not 1416 00:53:05,925 --> 00:53:07,065 healthy for our democracy. 1417 00:53:08,085 --> 00:53:10,805 We need to, I think, expand vote by 1418 00:53:10,805 --> 00:53:11,305 mail 1419 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:12,619 so that people 1420 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,239 can have time to vote and have their 1421 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,059 voice inferred. 1422 00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:19,000 And I also think at some point, I 1423 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,319 would like to see us have, you know, 1424 00:53:21,319 --> 00:53:23,880 more than two parties. But right now, we 1425 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,960 have a president and a speaker of the 1426 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,484 house and an administration 1427 00:53:28,184 --> 00:53:30,664 that wants to just have one party having 1428 00:53:30,664 --> 00:53:33,304 a voice. And that one party isn't working 1429 00:53:33,304 --> 00:53:35,884 on behalf of the vast majority of Americans, 1430 00:53:36,344 --> 00:53:38,264 and we have to fight back and make 1431 00:53:38,264 --> 00:53:40,199 sure in 2026, 1432 00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:42,280 our voices are heard and we have free 1433 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,099 and fair elections. 1434 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,639 Very true. Now we are running down. We 1435 00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:47,400 got about little over three minutes. I have 1436 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,639 to one I'm gonna throw out, hopefully, some 1437 00:53:49,639 --> 00:53:50,139 hope. 1438 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,335 Congresswoman, what do you think hope for the 1439 00:53:53,335 --> 00:53:55,015 midterms? I get a little nervous when I 1440 00:53:55,015 --> 00:53:56,215 hear a lot of people saying, oh, it's 1441 00:53:56,215 --> 00:53:58,295 gonna be an easy blue wave. I don't 1442 00:53:58,295 --> 00:53:59,434 know about that, but, 1443 00:54:00,855 --> 00:54:02,394 we are hoping for some midterm, 1444 00:54:04,135 --> 00:54:05,815 luck. What would you call it? I don't 1445 00:54:05,815 --> 00:54:07,255 know. We all call it work. That is 1446 00:54:07,255 --> 00:54:09,150 not luck. It's all hard work. Will, For 1447 00:54:09,150 --> 00:54:10,909 sure. We all thought, well, I'm all ahead 1448 00:54:10,909 --> 00:54:12,989 of work on the park. Yeah. Let's hear 1449 00:54:12,989 --> 00:54:14,929 from the representative on that. So 1450 00:54:15,710 --> 00:54:18,190 first of all, what we have seen in 1451 00:54:18,190 --> 00:54:19,010 every other 1452 00:54:19,549 --> 00:54:21,889 in all of the elections across the country 1453 00:54:22,215 --> 00:54:22,715 is 1454 00:54:23,175 --> 00:54:23,994 that, you know, 1455 00:54:24,934 --> 00:54:26,635 that that elections 1456 00:54:27,414 --> 00:54:30,454 are are swinging by double digits. Again, Texas 1457 00:54:30,454 --> 00:54:33,595 is a good example. Georgia is an excellent 1458 00:54:33,655 --> 00:54:37,299 example. So those are Jersey. Right? So and 1459 00:54:37,299 --> 00:54:39,719 and Virginia. So those are good signs. 1460 00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:42,339 We have to that we have to make 1461 00:54:42,339 --> 00:54:44,359 sure that we fight voter suppression 1462 00:54:44,819 --> 00:54:45,319 and 1463 00:54:45,699 --> 00:54:47,719 hold firm on not letting 1464 00:54:48,019 --> 00:54:51,135 the senate pass the steal act, the stealing 1465 00:54:51,135 --> 00:54:52,114 our vote act. 1466 00:54:52,655 --> 00:54:54,355 And then and then 1467 00:54:54,815 --> 00:54:57,375 Democrats need to give people something to vote 1468 00:54:57,375 --> 00:54:57,875 for. 1469 00:54:58,175 --> 00:55:01,055 It is not enough to just say Trump 1470 00:55:01,055 --> 00:55:03,739 is bad. We have to give them something 1471 00:55:03,739 --> 00:55:06,880 to vote for and work harder and actually 1472 00:55:07,179 --> 00:55:10,799 have messaging that speaks to working class people 1473 00:55:10,859 --> 00:55:13,739 and ordinary people. We, you know, we can't 1474 00:55:13,739 --> 00:55:16,184 just show up to people that can't pay 1475 00:55:16,184 --> 00:55:18,505 for their rent or their gas or their 1476 00:55:18,505 --> 00:55:20,525 food with a 16 page paper 1477 00:55:20,825 --> 00:55:23,724 on poverty. That's not gonna fly. 1478 00:55:24,105 --> 00:55:25,405 We have to do better 1479 00:55:26,105 --> 00:55:26,585 at, 1480 00:55:27,224 --> 00:55:29,545 at meeting people where they are and fighting 1481 00:55:29,545 --> 00:55:30,045 for 1482 00:55:30,549 --> 00:55:33,609 some economic prosperity and balance in, 1483 00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:37,269 you know, in people's lives. Well, again, we're 1484 00:55:37,269 --> 00:55:39,510 all hoping and I don't know about praying. 1485 00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:41,429 I don't pray, but hoping for the mid 1486 00:55:41,429 --> 00:55:42,329 for the midterm 1487 00:55:43,135 --> 00:55:44,735 swing. I don't know about you. I'm working 1488 00:55:44,735 --> 00:55:45,715 for it. And, 1489 00:55:46,015 --> 00:55:47,075 again, congresswoman 1490 00:55:47,535 --> 00:55:50,255 Val Hoyle, really appreciate you doing the show. 1491 00:55:50,255 --> 00:55:52,255 Sorry for the initial. We had some tech 1492 00:55:52,255 --> 00:55:55,855 issues that I certainly cannot repair, but it 1493 00:55:55,855 --> 00:55:57,614 worked out. Got a little late start. But, 1494 00:55:57,614 --> 00:55:59,819 again, like to really thank you for being 1495 00:55:59,819 --> 00:56:01,099 on our show, and I hope to have 1496 00:56:01,099 --> 00:56:02,859 you on. Again, I've got pages of notes 1497 00:56:02,859 --> 00:56:05,099 I had didn't get to and maybe the 1498 00:56:05,099 --> 00:56:05,839 next time. 1499 00:56:06,859 --> 00:56:08,699 And we really appreciate you being on very 1500 00:56:08,699 --> 00:56:09,199 much. 1501 00:56:10,295 --> 00:56:12,775 I I appreciate what you're doing. Local media 1502 00:56:12,775 --> 00:56:15,335 matters, and I wanna, you know, call out, 1503 00:56:16,135 --> 00:56:18,535 Brett Cecil for the work that he's done 1504 00:56:18,535 --> 00:56:19,195 to organize 1505 00:56:19,575 --> 00:56:22,695 in Curry County. He is he is working 1506 00:56:22,695 --> 00:56:25,050 nonstop. And, Brett, we appreciate you. 1507 00:56:25,610 --> 00:56:27,869 And and we do. Hi as well. Alright. 1508 00:56:27,929 --> 00:56:30,170 We're just about done. I want a quick 1509 00:56:30,170 --> 00:56:32,489 shout out to our friends, John and Janine, 1510 00:56:32,489 --> 00:56:33,550 who showed up here, 1511 00:56:34,570 --> 00:56:36,890 before we started the show. They walked in 1512 00:56:36,890 --> 00:56:39,454 off the street, saw the radio station, came 1513 00:56:39,835 --> 00:56:40,954 in and bought a t shirt. Yay. Thank 1514 00:56:40,954 --> 00:56:41,855 you, John and Janine. 1515 00:56:42,235 --> 00:56:44,815 Alright. Thank you all for listening. 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