1 00:00:12,404 --> 00:00:15,125 Hi, and welcome KCIW listeners at one hundred 2 00:00:15,125 --> 00:00:18,644 point seven FM or online at kciw.org, 3 00:00:18,644 --> 00:00:21,605 Brookings, Oregon. Hi to our syndicated listeners at 4 00:00:21,605 --> 00:00:22,105 KZZH 5 00:00:22,564 --> 00:00:25,524 ninety six point seven FM, access Humboldt, Eureka, 6 00:00:25,524 --> 00:00:26,024 California, 7 00:00:26,500 --> 00:00:29,059 And a special welcome to our new listeners 8 00:00:29,059 --> 00:00:30,920 going for a month now, KSKQ 9 00:00:31,460 --> 00:00:34,340 eighty nine point five FM Ashland and ninety 10 00:00:34,340 --> 00:00:36,520 four point one FM Medford. 11 00:00:36,899 --> 00:00:38,500 Yes. It is so good to be with 12 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:41,494 you. This is me, radio with joyously free, 13 00:00:41,494 --> 00:00:43,895 Joni Lindenmayer, the best selling author of none 14 00:00:43,895 --> 00:00:46,935 better, an amazing love story, and coauthor of 15 00:00:46,935 --> 00:00:49,495 joyously free and healing religious hurts. I'm so 16 00:00:49,495 --> 00:00:51,655 glad that you are tuning in today. Thank 17 00:00:51,655 --> 00:00:54,350 you. I'm a resident of Harbor, Oregon, a 18 00:00:54,350 --> 00:00:56,829 retired high school teacher, a recent author who 19 00:00:56,829 --> 00:00:59,229 has published three books in two years, created 20 00:00:59,229 --> 00:01:01,710 an audiobook, and with friend and film producer 21 00:01:01,710 --> 00:01:04,289 Michael Gorse, created a short film called Wowzer. 22 00:01:04,430 --> 00:01:07,564 We are just excited about life. But most 23 00:01:07,564 --> 00:01:10,125 of all, today's the day. I love being 24 00:01:10,125 --> 00:01:12,125 with you. I love being the producer and 25 00:01:12,125 --> 00:01:15,504 host of this high energy, joyously free radio 26 00:01:15,885 --> 00:01:18,364 gadio show as my good friends Will and 27 00:01:18,364 --> 00:01:21,025 Viv say. So this show talks about LGBTQ 28 00:01:21,405 --> 00:01:24,429 plus stories and tips along with church, religion, 29 00:01:24,429 --> 00:01:25,329 faith, spirituality, 30 00:01:25,789 --> 00:01:28,429 and joy, the joy and freedom that is 31 00:01:28,429 --> 00:01:30,989 abundant for all of us. Hence, that's the 32 00:01:30,989 --> 00:01:33,310 second book I wrote, Joyously Free, and that's 33 00:01:33,310 --> 00:01:36,049 what this radio show is, is joyously free. 34 00:01:36,269 --> 00:01:37,649 In this radio broadcast, 35 00:01:38,125 --> 00:01:40,604 just as in my everyday life, there will 36 00:01:40,604 --> 00:01:41,664 be no hate speech, 37 00:01:42,045 --> 00:01:44,685 no hate behaviors, and no bullying. It will 38 00:01:44,685 --> 00:01:46,944 be blasted what I call the three c's, 39 00:01:47,244 --> 00:01:49,104 courage, confidence, and collaboration. 40 00:01:49,884 --> 00:01:52,719 Together, let's sparkle, let's seek understanding, 41 00:01:53,260 --> 00:01:55,040 think out of a box or no boxes 42 00:01:55,099 --> 00:01:57,180 at all, and be open as an open 43 00:01:57,180 --> 00:01:57,680 parachute. 44 00:01:58,299 --> 00:02:00,479 So let's begin with our morning salutation. 45 00:02:01,019 --> 00:02:03,099 I'll say it's a brand new day, and 46 00:02:03,099 --> 00:02:06,000 your response is it's never been lived before. 47 00:02:06,245 --> 00:02:08,745 Here we go. It's a brand new day. 48 00:02:09,284 --> 00:02:10,824 It's never been lived before. 49 00:02:11,284 --> 00:02:13,685 Woo hoo. Oh my gosh. Our guest today 50 00:02:13,685 --> 00:02:15,044 is right on it, and some of you 51 00:02:15,044 --> 00:02:16,884 are gonna probably know who this is. So 52 00:02:16,884 --> 00:02:18,840 just hang on to your hats. So before 53 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,599 we get into that, let's, of course, do 54 00:02:20,599 --> 00:02:21,659 our morning prayer. 55 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,879 Let's open our hearts as we ask the 56 00:02:23,879 --> 00:02:26,199 divine to shine light on our community and 57 00:02:26,199 --> 00:02:26,939 our world. 58 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,879 I excitedly believe in hope, in the power 59 00:02:29,879 --> 00:02:32,694 of the spiritual, and that Jesus, God's spirit, 60 00:02:32,754 --> 00:02:33,254 whatever 61 00:02:33,715 --> 00:02:36,435 name you put on a higher being, is 62 00:02:36,435 --> 00:02:38,614 always with me and always with you. 63 00:02:38,995 --> 00:02:40,694 So be not afraid or troubled, 64 00:02:41,394 --> 00:02:42,454 saddened or depressed. 65 00:02:43,169 --> 00:02:45,969 Joy and peace are an internal expression of 66 00:02:45,969 --> 00:02:49,009 love and harmony that is already within us, 67 00:02:49,009 --> 00:02:51,109 and we only have to reach deep 68 00:02:51,409 --> 00:02:52,870 and let it out. 69 00:02:53,409 --> 00:02:55,430 Let's center ourselves for a second. 70 00:02:56,055 --> 00:02:58,775 Calmly, take a deep breath in with the 71 00:02:58,775 --> 00:02:59,275 good, 72 00:03:01,655 --> 00:03:03,275 and out with any doubt. 73 00:03:05,974 --> 00:03:06,474 Again, 74 00:03:06,775 --> 00:03:08,875 breathe in through your nose with hope, 75 00:03:11,449 --> 00:03:13,629 and out from your mouth with fears. 76 00:03:15,770 --> 00:03:16,590 Last one. 77 00:03:16,969 --> 00:03:19,469 Take a big deep breath in with joy 78 00:03:21,530 --> 00:03:23,469 and out with worry or despair. 79 00:03:25,205 --> 00:03:27,865 In the name of mother Earth, creator God, 80 00:03:28,405 --> 00:03:30,805 Jesus redeemer, and the blowing winds of the 81 00:03:30,805 --> 00:03:33,444 Holy Spirit, we say, hi, light. Hi, love. 82 00:03:33,444 --> 00:03:36,324 Hi, Jesus. Hi, spirit. Hi, God. Thanks for 83 00:03:36,324 --> 00:03:38,585 being with us on this beautiful day. 84 00:03:39,290 --> 00:03:42,010 The quote I chose for today came about 85 00:03:42,010 --> 00:03:43,550 when I was looking at my calendar 86 00:03:44,090 --> 00:03:46,010 as I was praying this morning, and the 87 00:03:46,010 --> 00:03:48,810 quote is very simple. It says, you're the 88 00:03:48,810 --> 00:03:49,310 best. 89 00:03:50,170 --> 00:03:51,310 You're the best. 90 00:03:51,694 --> 00:03:54,115 And when I read that from my calendar, 91 00:03:54,254 --> 00:03:56,974 I thought, that is the truth. How many 92 00:03:56,974 --> 00:03:59,534 times do we not think about that about 93 00:03:59,534 --> 00:04:02,415 ourselves or about somebody else? But to look 94 00:04:02,415 --> 00:04:04,974 at everybody in the light that they are 95 00:04:04,974 --> 00:04:07,590 the best, they are doing the very best 96 00:04:07,669 --> 00:04:10,229 that they can on this day at this 97 00:04:10,229 --> 00:04:13,349 time and to encourage people to be their 98 00:04:13,349 --> 00:04:16,149 best, to to reach for stars, to have 99 00:04:16,149 --> 00:04:17,449 dreams, to have, 100 00:04:17,910 --> 00:04:20,569 people in their life that love them unconditionally. 101 00:04:21,509 --> 00:04:22,970 So I guess those are my 102 00:04:23,404 --> 00:04:26,524 quick, short, and sweet reflections that you're the 103 00:04:26,524 --> 00:04:27,024 best. 104 00:04:28,524 --> 00:04:29,504 Let us end 105 00:04:30,204 --> 00:04:32,365 this loving prayer by lifting up our friends 106 00:04:32,365 --> 00:04:33,264 and our family. 107 00:04:33,805 --> 00:04:36,524 May you and I find divine guidance and 108 00:04:36,524 --> 00:04:37,024 healing 109 00:04:37,949 --> 00:04:40,269 in this one little message that you're the 110 00:04:40,269 --> 00:04:40,769 best. 111 00:04:41,310 --> 00:04:43,550 Thank you, holy one, for hearing us. Thank 112 00:04:43,550 --> 00:04:45,629 you for making us who we are and 113 00:04:45,629 --> 00:04:48,509 that we praise and worship you, lord, in 114 00:04:48,509 --> 00:04:49,810 being our best. 115 00:04:50,705 --> 00:04:53,504 Oh, boy. Okay. So it's exciting times. It's 116 00:04:53,504 --> 00:04:56,404 time to see and hear from our wonderful 117 00:04:56,464 --> 00:04:57,285 guest today. 118 00:04:57,585 --> 00:04:59,285 Let me introduce you to 119 00:04:59,665 --> 00:05:01,444 Bianca Fox Bellaro. 120 00:05:01,985 --> 00:05:02,485 But, 121 00:05:03,264 --> 00:05:04,645 Fox, I'm gonna call 122 00:05:05,539 --> 00:05:07,300 call her Fox because that's what she goes 123 00:05:07,300 --> 00:05:10,979 by. She's the project guide for Pride in 124 00:05:10,979 --> 00:05:11,479 Numbers. 125 00:05:11,860 --> 00:05:14,039 Today, we're gonna take a look at stories 126 00:05:14,180 --> 00:05:16,680 and data and ways that we can improve 127 00:05:17,175 --> 00:05:19,814 the resources and the meaningful life for all 128 00:05:19,814 --> 00:05:21,115 LGBTQ people. 129 00:05:21,495 --> 00:05:23,514 Welcome, Fox. Glad you're here. 130 00:05:24,134 --> 00:05:26,314 Oh, I've got goosebumps, Joanie. 131 00:05:27,254 --> 00:05:29,014 Boo boo. I I hope that's a good 132 00:05:29,014 --> 00:05:30,394 one. Oh, yeah. 133 00:05:30,810 --> 00:05:32,509 Thank you, creator. Wow. 134 00:05:34,730 --> 00:05:37,770 Oh. This was such a wonderful, lovely prayer. 135 00:05:37,770 --> 00:05:39,610 I'm so excited to be here on Radio 136 00:05:39,610 --> 00:05:41,850 Gaydio with you, Joanie. Oh my gosh. It's 137 00:05:41,850 --> 00:05:43,814 such a treat. Thank you, Fox. Thank you 138 00:05:43,814 --> 00:05:45,654 so much. Thank you so much. And, yes. 139 00:05:45,654 --> 00:05:47,435 And and so how are you doing today? 140 00:05:48,055 --> 00:05:51,115 I'm doing so super. So I was just 141 00:05:51,415 --> 00:05:52,935 actually starting to tell you that I live 142 00:05:52,935 --> 00:05:55,115 in Cave Junction, and it is a beautiful 143 00:05:55,175 --> 00:05:58,050 day out here today. The sun is shining. 144 00:05:58,050 --> 00:05:59,990 The flowers are starting to bloom, 145 00:06:00,610 --> 00:06:02,289 and I've got a smile on my face 146 00:06:02,289 --> 00:06:04,449 partly thanks to you. Oh, thank you. Thank 147 00:06:04,449 --> 00:06:06,050 you. Thank you. And it's beautiful over here 148 00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:07,969 too. And wherever you happen to be listening 149 00:06:07,969 --> 00:06:09,889 or or reading this on a podcast or 150 00:06:09,889 --> 00:06:11,745 watching it, you know, I hope it's a 151 00:06:11,745 --> 00:06:14,464 good weather for you too. Hey, Fox. Before 152 00:06:14,464 --> 00:06:15,985 we jump into a whole lot of of 153 00:06:15,985 --> 00:06:18,384 what we're really gonna talk about today, can 154 00:06:18,384 --> 00:06:20,144 you talk a little bit about who you 155 00:06:20,144 --> 00:06:20,644 are? 156 00:06:21,904 --> 00:06:24,384 You bet. So my name is Bianca Fox 157 00:06:24,384 --> 00:06:25,605 Bayada, and 158 00:06:26,180 --> 00:06:28,819 lots of folks, neighbors, friends, family know me 159 00:06:28,819 --> 00:06:29,560 as Fox. 160 00:06:30,180 --> 00:06:30,919 I have 161 00:06:31,539 --> 00:06:34,199 lived out here in the Rogue Valley around 162 00:06:34,659 --> 00:06:37,240 Grants Pass, Murphy, Wolf Creek, 163 00:06:37,860 --> 00:06:39,240 and now Cave Junction 164 00:06:39,814 --> 00:06:42,774 for, let's say, like, fourteen years. Oh. 165 00:06:43,574 --> 00:06:44,475 I am, 166 00:06:45,495 --> 00:06:48,314 born in Miami, Florida. I'm actually first generation 167 00:06:48,774 --> 00:06:51,894 immigrant from Cuban parents. I'm descendant of the 168 00:06:51,894 --> 00:06:55,035 Taino tribe, and I carry that very proudly. 169 00:06:55,470 --> 00:06:55,970 I, 170 00:06:58,829 --> 00:07:01,170 let's see. I have been in the nonprofit 171 00:07:01,629 --> 00:07:04,430 world for over ten years. I've just always 172 00:07:04,430 --> 00:07:07,790 been really focused on serving community, serving this 173 00:07:07,790 --> 00:07:09,389 world, trying to make the world a better 174 00:07:09,389 --> 00:07:09,889 place, 175 00:07:10,394 --> 00:07:11,915 leave it better than I found it. And 176 00:07:11,915 --> 00:07:14,074 that's part of my indigenous values that I 177 00:07:14,074 --> 00:07:15,935 was raised with is to always 178 00:07:16,634 --> 00:07:18,875 give more than we take and make sure 179 00:07:18,875 --> 00:07:19,935 that we are, 180 00:07:21,194 --> 00:07:23,274 just being the best human stewards that we 181 00:07:23,274 --> 00:07:25,595 can of this gorgeous garden and of this 182 00:07:25,595 --> 00:07:27,250 gorgeous family that we get to be a 183 00:07:27,250 --> 00:07:27,910 part of. 184 00:07:28,370 --> 00:07:28,870 So 185 00:07:29,170 --> 00:07:31,410 I have and I happen to be queer 186 00:07:31,410 --> 00:07:32,709 too and two spirit. 187 00:07:33,330 --> 00:07:36,449 So I just love I love my life, 188 00:07:36,449 --> 00:07:39,115 actually, and I love getting to serve the 189 00:07:39,115 --> 00:07:42,415 environment, getting to serve my rainbow family, 190 00:07:42,794 --> 00:07:44,735 getting to serve all people, 191 00:07:45,115 --> 00:07:47,535 getting to serve communities of color and culture. 192 00:07:48,314 --> 00:07:50,495 That's just what makes my heart beat. 193 00:07:50,875 --> 00:07:52,634 Wow. I love it. I love it. I 194 00:07:52,634 --> 00:07:54,175 think we are kindred souls. 195 00:07:54,689 --> 00:07:56,289 You know, I know we haven't personally met, 196 00:07:56,289 --> 00:07:58,449 but I just love your description of everything 197 00:07:58,449 --> 00:08:00,129 you just said, and I'm right there with 198 00:08:00,129 --> 00:08:01,729 you with all of it. And I'll even 199 00:08:01,729 --> 00:08:03,169 go to the Cuban part where one of 200 00:08:03,169 --> 00:08:05,829 my favorite foods are Cuban food. So wow. 201 00:08:06,724 --> 00:08:08,964 I know. I I love being Cuban too. 202 00:08:08,964 --> 00:08:10,724 And, actually, you know, speaking of Cuba, like, 203 00:08:10,724 --> 00:08:11,384 there's just 204 00:08:11,845 --> 00:08:13,845 I just I wanna say, I wanna extend 205 00:08:13,845 --> 00:08:15,604 that prayer out to the Cuban people right 206 00:08:15,604 --> 00:08:17,125 now because of I know that there's a 207 00:08:17,125 --> 00:08:19,220 little bit of a humanitarian crisis going on 208 00:08:19,220 --> 00:08:21,459 there. And, anyway, my heart goes out to 209 00:08:21,459 --> 00:08:23,139 them, and I wish I could be there 210 00:08:23,139 --> 00:08:25,079 to help support on the ground. 211 00:08:26,899 --> 00:08:28,660 Right. And if we cannot be there, then, 212 00:08:28,660 --> 00:08:30,579 you know, we rely on the spirit. We 213 00:08:30,579 --> 00:08:32,659 rely on some divinity that can take the 214 00:08:32,659 --> 00:08:34,500 place of that being in in the present 215 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:37,434 there. So definitely. Definitely. You know, you talk 216 00:08:37,434 --> 00:08:41,434 about serving all people, the rainbow people, the, 217 00:08:41,995 --> 00:08:44,654 the indigenous people, everybody, all people. 218 00:08:45,434 --> 00:08:47,355 As a queer person and a two spirit 219 00:08:47,355 --> 00:08:49,829 person, have you always been that way in 220 00:08:49,829 --> 00:08:51,269 all of your life, that kind of a 221 00:08:51,269 --> 00:08:51,769 person? 222 00:08:52,389 --> 00:08:53,909 I really have. Yeah. Since I was a 223 00:08:53,909 --> 00:08:54,970 child, I remember, 224 00:08:55,589 --> 00:08:56,089 just 225 00:08:56,470 --> 00:08:58,949 wanting the Earth wanting to do everything to 226 00:08:59,029 --> 00:09:01,110 I could to protect the Earth. And when 227 00:09:01,110 --> 00:09:03,404 I say the Earth, I mean all my 228 00:09:03,404 --> 00:09:05,105 relatives, all the people. 229 00:09:05,644 --> 00:09:08,284 That means the the water people, the cloud 230 00:09:08,284 --> 00:09:10,544 people, the tree people, the fish people, 231 00:09:11,084 --> 00:09:14,125 the four leggeds, the green bloods. That's what 232 00:09:14,125 --> 00:09:16,750 we call the the plants. Mhmm. And, 233 00:09:17,290 --> 00:09:19,690 and and I've just always been just so 234 00:09:19,690 --> 00:09:20,750 kind of horrified, 235 00:09:21,769 --> 00:09:24,090 that we have moved into this direction of 236 00:09:24,090 --> 00:09:24,590 imbalance. 237 00:09:25,450 --> 00:09:27,674 And I truly, truly believe that 238 00:09:28,154 --> 00:09:29,534 especially with the, 239 00:09:30,794 --> 00:09:34,014 with the in leadership of indigenous tribes 240 00:09:34,634 --> 00:09:35,134 and, 241 00:09:35,595 --> 00:09:38,955 the solidarity with indigenous solidarity Mhmm. I think 242 00:09:38,955 --> 00:09:41,115 that we can move back into a greater 243 00:09:41,115 --> 00:09:42,575 form of balance by 244 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,320 following the lead of those tribes and those 245 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,379 peoples that have 246 00:09:46,680 --> 00:09:49,879 stewarded this planet since time immemorial and for 247 00:09:49,879 --> 00:09:52,220 thousands and thousands of years because nobody knows 248 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:54,220 the particular ecosystem 249 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,440 as well as people who have lived there 250 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,945 a very long time. Right. Right. Right. And 251 00:09:58,945 --> 00:10:00,245 our ancestors matter. 252 00:10:00,625 --> 00:10:02,625 You know? And what has come before us 253 00:10:02,625 --> 00:10:04,544 matters, and what we can do now matters, 254 00:10:04,544 --> 00:10:05,985 and what we can do in the future 255 00:10:05,985 --> 00:10:07,665 matters. And if you put the past, the 256 00:10:07,665 --> 00:10:09,904 present, and the future altogether, that that's where 257 00:10:09,904 --> 00:10:11,700 we're going and that's who we are. So, 258 00:10:11,700 --> 00:10:13,139 you know, one of the things that people 259 00:10:13,139 --> 00:10:16,019 often ask me, Fox, is what is a 260 00:10:16,019 --> 00:10:19,540 two spirit person? They don't quite understand that. 261 00:10:19,540 --> 00:10:21,460 Before we jump into pride in numbers, can 262 00:10:21,460 --> 00:10:24,259 you describe that personally for us, your queer 263 00:10:24,259 --> 00:10:25,000 two spirit 264 00:10:25,815 --> 00:10:28,774 identity? Happily, and thanks for asking. So two 265 00:10:28,774 --> 00:10:31,754 spirit is not a traditional term for indigiqueer 266 00:10:32,295 --> 00:10:35,014 queer indigenous folks. It's more of like a 267 00:10:35,014 --> 00:10:37,654 modern umbrella term that a lot of tribes 268 00:10:37,654 --> 00:10:38,715 are using across, 269 00:10:39,370 --> 00:10:41,370 Turtle Island or what we call the so 270 00:10:41,370 --> 00:10:42,909 called United States now. 271 00:10:43,690 --> 00:10:45,850 And it's like a catch all because tribes 272 00:10:45,850 --> 00:10:46,829 actually all 273 00:10:47,449 --> 00:10:50,169 many, you know, had their own traditional terms 274 00:10:50,169 --> 00:10:52,009 for what it was to be this third 275 00:10:52,009 --> 00:10:55,365 gender or this alternative gender person. But what 276 00:10:55,745 --> 00:10:57,125 the what the two spiritness 277 00:10:57,504 --> 00:11:00,644 catches is that across all these tribes, 278 00:11:02,384 --> 00:11:04,545 what us, you know, our queer beings had 279 00:11:04,545 --> 00:11:07,605 in common is that we were often healers. 280 00:11:07,745 --> 00:11:08,644 We were considered 281 00:11:09,250 --> 00:11:10,629 sacred, we were considered 282 00:11:11,009 --> 00:11:12,549 a blessing to the tribe 283 00:11:13,089 --> 00:11:15,829 because we were able to be two spiritedness. 284 00:11:16,049 --> 00:11:17,829 That means that we were able to offer 285 00:11:18,209 --> 00:11:21,490 masculine and feminine skills and attributes, that we 286 00:11:21,490 --> 00:11:22,629 were able to, 287 00:11:23,504 --> 00:11:25,584 move forward and be of service in a 288 00:11:25,584 --> 00:11:27,664 variety of different ways according to what it 289 00:11:27,664 --> 00:11:29,424 is that the tribe needed. There was a 290 00:11:29,424 --> 00:11:31,684 certain special kind of magic, if you will, 291 00:11:32,544 --> 00:11:35,105 or ability, you know, that two spirit people 292 00:11:35,105 --> 00:11:37,284 were able to offer because of their differentness. 293 00:11:37,950 --> 00:11:39,570 A lot of times, we were peacemakers 294 00:11:40,590 --> 00:11:41,649 and bridge builders 295 00:11:42,029 --> 00:11:43,170 and communicators 296 00:11:43,629 --> 00:11:45,950 between the realms or even in conflicts, you 297 00:11:45,950 --> 00:11:48,129 know, just being able to see multiple sides. 298 00:11:48,269 --> 00:11:50,370 Mhmm. Oh, and what a gift that is. 299 00:11:50,429 --> 00:11:52,485 What a gift that is. You know? And 300 00:11:52,485 --> 00:11:55,205 and I so believe that creator, god, makes 301 00:11:55,205 --> 00:11:58,325 everybody for a a bigger reason. And for 302 00:11:58,325 --> 00:12:00,245 you to be two spirit, to be a 303 00:12:00,245 --> 00:12:02,664 healer, to be a peacemaker, to be masculine 304 00:12:02,725 --> 00:12:05,524 and feminine, and can see and experience so 305 00:12:05,524 --> 00:12:08,459 many things from different angles. I just love 306 00:12:08,459 --> 00:12:10,799 that. That is a true gift. True gift. 307 00:12:10,940 --> 00:12:12,779 Yep. Yep. Yeah. Well, you know, I wanna 308 00:12:12,779 --> 00:12:15,580 give a shout out to Rose King, and 309 00:12:15,580 --> 00:12:18,059 Rose was the person that introduced me to 310 00:12:18,059 --> 00:12:18,764 you, Fox. 311 00:12:19,165 --> 00:12:21,565 And Rose said, you need to talk to 312 00:12:21,565 --> 00:12:22,065 Fox. 313 00:12:22,445 --> 00:12:24,445 Fox is the person that knows what's going 314 00:12:24,445 --> 00:12:25,985 on in rural America 315 00:12:26,285 --> 00:12:28,945 in terms of data and resources 316 00:12:29,325 --> 00:12:31,105 to help the queer community. 317 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:33,840 Can you jump in and describe what you're 318 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,419 involved with with Pride in Numbers, please? 319 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,019 100%. 320 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,620 So Pride in Numbers 321 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,759 is an awesome opportunity really to capture as 322 00:12:43,759 --> 00:12:44,659 many voices, 323 00:12:45,039 --> 00:12:45,539 stories, 324 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:46,500 data, 325 00:12:47,205 --> 00:12:49,384 the presence of two spirit and LGBTQIA 326 00:12:50,165 --> 00:12:51,625 plus people in Oregon 327 00:12:52,245 --> 00:12:54,264 in a very intersectional, 328 00:12:54,725 --> 00:12:58,085 very intentionally diverse way. We are really trying 329 00:12:58,085 --> 00:12:58,665 to show 330 00:12:59,045 --> 00:13:01,545 that we are here. We've always been here, 331 00:13:01,970 --> 00:13:04,610 you know, starting with indigenous queer people. And 332 00:13:04,610 --> 00:13:07,009 also for decades, you know, lots of queer 333 00:13:07,009 --> 00:13:10,050 and trans and two spirit and whole spectrum 334 00:13:10,050 --> 00:13:11,750 people have been coming to Oregon 335 00:13:12,290 --> 00:13:15,029 because it is such a friendly progressive state, 336 00:13:15,125 --> 00:13:16,745 and we have quite the population. 337 00:13:17,924 --> 00:13:20,565 That being said, just because we have been 338 00:13:20,565 --> 00:13:22,804 friendly as a state here in Oregon doesn't 339 00:13:22,804 --> 00:13:24,024 mean that people 340 00:13:24,565 --> 00:13:25,544 of the LGBTQIA 341 00:13:26,164 --> 00:13:28,485 and two spirit variety living in, like, rural 342 00:13:28,485 --> 00:13:30,580 parts of Oregon are getting the same kind 343 00:13:30,580 --> 00:13:31,879 of treatment, representation, 344 00:13:32,659 --> 00:13:34,279 feelings of safety and belonging 345 00:13:34,580 --> 00:13:36,740 as those living in the cities. So it's 346 00:13:36,740 --> 00:13:39,139 really important more than ever that we really 347 00:13:39,139 --> 00:13:41,940 showcase who's here, where we are, what we 348 00:13:41,940 --> 00:13:42,440 need, 349 00:13:42,774 --> 00:13:45,414 where we're living, what our lived experiences are 350 00:13:45,414 --> 00:13:47,274 life so we can leave a legacy 351 00:13:47,654 --> 00:13:50,774 for greater advocacy and community care and hopefully 352 00:13:50,774 --> 00:13:53,334 even better policies in the future. Right on. 353 00:13:53,334 --> 00:13:55,014 Right on. You know? And and simply put 354 00:13:55,014 --> 00:13:57,259 that I love how you articulated that. And 355 00:13:57,259 --> 00:13:59,580 simply put, I think of it as Oregon 356 00:13:59,580 --> 00:14:02,080 is just one of the largest LGBTQQI 357 00:14:03,019 --> 00:14:03,919 plus populations 358 00:14:04,379 --> 00:14:05,200 per capita 359 00:14:05,580 --> 00:14:06,480 in the nation. 360 00:14:08,299 --> 00:14:10,139 Absolutely. That was actually in a study from 361 00:14:10,139 --> 00:14:11,835 the Williams Institute. It is. 362 00:14:12,315 --> 00:14:12,815 And 363 00:14:13,595 --> 00:14:16,554 lots of people are navigating multiple overlapping identities, 364 00:14:16,554 --> 00:14:17,995 and we just we're set we have such 365 00:14:17,995 --> 00:14:19,754 a rich culture. And that's part of the 366 00:14:19,754 --> 00:14:21,434 reason when you go to pride in numbers 367 00:14:21,434 --> 00:14:22,175 dot org, 368 00:14:22,554 --> 00:14:24,075 you can see that you can either take 369 00:14:24,075 --> 00:14:26,315 the survey or even submit your art to 370 00:14:26,315 --> 00:14:27,215 the art project 371 00:14:27,610 --> 00:14:29,290 because we wanted to make sure that we 372 00:14:29,290 --> 00:14:32,730 were really capturing how diverse, how cultural, how 373 00:14:32,730 --> 00:14:34,029 cool, how magical, 374 00:14:34,570 --> 00:14:37,450 how expressive our community is, not just through 375 00:14:37,450 --> 00:14:40,445 data and numbers, but really through our stories, 376 00:14:40,585 --> 00:14:41,644 through our multimedia 377 00:14:42,024 --> 00:14:44,745 art, through, any way that we really wanna 378 00:14:44,745 --> 00:14:47,225 be participating in this. We really wanna show, 379 00:14:47,225 --> 00:14:49,144 like, hey. We are not just here, but 380 00:14:49,144 --> 00:14:51,465 we are a vibrant people. Right on. Right 381 00:14:51,465 --> 00:14:52,985 on. And I think the more that, 382 00:14:53,465 --> 00:14:56,240 we use our voice in art and or 383 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,659 in words that people understand 384 00:14:59,039 --> 00:15:01,840 us more, and we also become bonded and 385 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,419 more excited to be in our own culture, 386 00:15:04,559 --> 00:15:05,460 which is beautiful. 387 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,059 Do you agree with that? 388 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,039 Oh, yeah. And also, we get to really 389 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:09,860 show our humanity. 390 00:15:10,235 --> 00:15:11,435 Because I think that a lot of the 391 00:15:11,435 --> 00:15:13,055 times, the kind of discrimination 392 00:15:13,675 --> 00:15:14,815 or, you know, 393 00:15:15,754 --> 00:15:17,675 concerns that we get from folks who are 394 00:15:17,675 --> 00:15:19,055 not two spirit and LGBTQIA 395 00:15:19,595 --> 00:15:20,095 plus 396 00:15:20,475 --> 00:15:22,394 is because they might not actually know many 397 00:15:22,394 --> 00:15:23,055 of us. 398 00:15:24,139 --> 00:15:26,459 They probably do, but we might not be 399 00:15:26,459 --> 00:15:28,779 out, you know, in their circles. Right. And 400 00:15:28,779 --> 00:15:30,620 they might not realize that we are queer 401 00:15:30,620 --> 00:15:32,079 and trans and so on. 402 00:15:32,379 --> 00:15:35,919 So I think that it's really important that 403 00:15:36,434 --> 00:15:39,075 our humanity gets to be really showcased so 404 00:15:39,075 --> 00:15:41,715 that it's understood that we are we are 405 00:15:41,715 --> 00:15:43,975 just as human. We are just as normalized, 406 00:15:44,835 --> 00:15:47,235 as anybody else. Yes. Yes. You know? So 407 00:15:47,235 --> 00:15:50,370 so my my understanding is pride in numbers. 408 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:53,089 It's a it's a research project. That's really 409 00:15:53,089 --> 00:15:55,250 what it is, and you produce a survey 410 00:15:55,250 --> 00:15:57,649 as one of your tools. I completed that 411 00:15:57,649 --> 00:15:59,889 survey. And what I loved about the first 412 00:15:59,889 --> 00:16:02,850 couple questions on the survey was, are you 413 00:16:02,850 --> 00:16:03,350 out? 414 00:16:03,674 --> 00:16:06,575 Are you an out LGBTQ person or not? 415 00:16:06,714 --> 00:16:09,355 Why would that be important for a rural 416 00:16:09,355 --> 00:16:11,214 community to have that information? 417 00:16:12,875 --> 00:16:14,654 Oh, yeah. Because rural communities 418 00:16:14,955 --> 00:16:17,514 and black indigenous and people of color and 419 00:16:17,514 --> 00:16:19,799 culture have been historically underrepresented 420 00:16:20,500 --> 00:16:22,120 in the two spirit and LGBTQIA 421 00:16:22,980 --> 00:16:24,980 plus data. And part of the reason is 422 00:16:24,980 --> 00:16:27,299 because they might not experience the same feelings 423 00:16:27,299 --> 00:16:27,799 of 424 00:16:28,179 --> 00:16:30,360 safety, belonging, and acceptance 425 00:16:30,740 --> 00:16:32,919 in their cultures and in their neighborhoods 426 00:16:33,524 --> 00:16:36,324 as everybody else. So we really wanna capture 427 00:16:36,324 --> 00:16:38,324 that. That's, like, the number one important thing 428 00:16:38,324 --> 00:16:41,204 is, like, do you feel safe Yes. To 429 00:16:41,204 --> 00:16:42,424 be out in your life? 430 00:16:42,804 --> 00:16:44,324 Yes. It's 2026. 431 00:16:44,324 --> 00:16:46,590 Do you feel safe to be out? Right. 432 00:16:47,070 --> 00:16:49,470 Right. You know? Every morning, I I raise 433 00:16:49,470 --> 00:16:51,389 a flag on my my front porch. And 434 00:16:51,389 --> 00:16:52,830 on one side of the flag is are 435 00:16:52,830 --> 00:16:55,230 these great big rainbow hearts. That's my rainbow 436 00:16:55,230 --> 00:16:56,750 flag. And then on the other side, I 437 00:16:56,750 --> 00:16:59,309 have the USA American flag. And I do 438 00:16:59,309 --> 00:17:01,804 that back to back because I I am 439 00:17:01,804 --> 00:17:03,184 I am proud to be, 440 00:17:03,644 --> 00:17:06,045 in one sense, a United States citizen. There 441 00:17:06,045 --> 00:17:08,684 are times where I totally, totally disagree with 442 00:17:08,684 --> 00:17:10,365 so many things going on. But at the 443 00:17:10,365 --> 00:17:12,525 same time, the freedoms that we do have, 444 00:17:12,525 --> 00:17:14,684 I acknowledge and I appreciate. And, of course, 445 00:17:14,684 --> 00:17:17,460 my rainbow colors are are out there. And 446 00:17:17,460 --> 00:17:20,099 many people say, Joni, aren't you scared to 447 00:17:20,099 --> 00:17:22,900 put that flag up? Because they may be 448 00:17:22,900 --> 00:17:24,819 out to themselves, but they're not out in 449 00:17:24,819 --> 00:17:26,359 their neighborhood or their community. 450 00:17:26,660 --> 00:17:28,500 And that's why I think what you're doing 451 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:31,559 with this project data and stories 452 00:17:31,884 --> 00:17:33,184 will help people to 453 00:17:33,484 --> 00:17:35,724 own who they are and for the community 454 00:17:35,724 --> 00:17:37,964 to recognize that. Can you talk more about 455 00:17:37,964 --> 00:17:39,105 the survey, please? 456 00:17:39,964 --> 00:17:40,464 Absolutely. 457 00:17:41,005 --> 00:17:42,924 Well, I do also wanna say, like, that's 458 00:17:42,924 --> 00:17:45,164 what's so cool about being in Oregon and 459 00:17:45,164 --> 00:17:47,309 why it's so important that we have pride 460 00:17:47,309 --> 00:17:49,549 in numbers. We have this project in Oregon 461 00:17:49,549 --> 00:17:50,049 because 462 00:17:50,750 --> 00:17:52,130 we are such a progressive, 463 00:17:52,589 --> 00:17:56,029 lucky, and privileged state, you know, in terms 464 00:17:56,029 --> 00:17:57,869 of the rights and the benefits that we 465 00:17:57,869 --> 00:17:59,809 have compared to many other states. 466 00:18:00,345 --> 00:18:00,845 And 467 00:18:01,464 --> 00:18:02,684 we need to really 468 00:18:03,304 --> 00:18:05,384 set the bar for other states, if you 469 00:18:05,384 --> 00:18:06,825 will. You know what I mean? I like 470 00:18:06,825 --> 00:18:07,325 that. 471 00:18:07,704 --> 00:18:09,625 Not just, like, say that we support two 472 00:18:09,625 --> 00:18:10,605 spirit and LGBTQIA 473 00:18:11,144 --> 00:18:14,444 plus people, but really actually seal the deal, 474 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,039 support it, showcase it, wave that flag, wave 475 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:18,779 that banner, 476 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,059 and really just create a sea change across 477 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,140 all of Oregon as far as LGBTQIA 478 00:18:24,759 --> 00:18:27,720 friendliness and safety so we can showcase how 479 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,720 it's done for other states. There's so many 480 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,775 other states that I feel like would be 481 00:18:31,775 --> 00:18:34,575 right behind us. So a little bit more 482 00:18:34,575 --> 00:18:35,714 about Pride in Numbers. 483 00:18:36,494 --> 00:18:39,454 This is truly a by us for us 484 00:18:39,454 --> 00:18:41,615 project. I've actually gotten to be a part 485 00:18:41,615 --> 00:18:45,820 of it since the early creation in 2023 486 00:18:45,820 --> 00:18:48,380 that was phase one. And I think what's 487 00:18:48,380 --> 00:18:50,539 awesome to me about being a part of 488 00:18:50,539 --> 00:18:52,079 this project is that 489 00:18:52,380 --> 00:18:53,359 from the beginning, 490 00:18:53,660 --> 00:18:56,160 there was an intention to recruit leadership 491 00:18:56,539 --> 00:18:57,440 such as myself 492 00:18:57,924 --> 00:18:58,904 from across 493 00:18:59,365 --> 00:18:59,865 Oregon, 494 00:19:00,325 --> 00:19:01,865 from across racial 495 00:19:02,164 --> 00:19:02,664 identities, 496 00:19:03,125 --> 00:19:03,625 geographical 497 00:19:03,924 --> 00:19:04,424 identities, 498 00:19:05,605 --> 00:19:06,744 you know, disabled 499 00:19:07,045 --> 00:19:07,545 intersectional, 500 00:19:09,684 --> 00:19:11,390 you know, queer identities 501 00:19:11,769 --> 00:19:13,849 too. So it was so cool to me 502 00:19:13,849 --> 00:19:16,410 that I was reached out to as a 503 00:19:16,410 --> 00:19:16,910 rural 504 00:19:17,450 --> 00:19:17,950 BIPOC, 505 00:19:18,330 --> 00:19:19,070 two spirit, 506 00:19:19,849 --> 00:19:20,750 Latine person, 507 00:19:21,450 --> 00:19:23,945 you know, who otherwise doesn't really get to 508 00:19:23,945 --> 00:19:25,384 often be a part of these kind of 509 00:19:25,384 --> 00:19:26,445 larger statewide, 510 00:19:28,345 --> 00:19:31,705 projects. Usually, they're very Portland centric, maybe Eugene 511 00:19:31,705 --> 00:19:34,585 centric, but this one really made an effort 512 00:19:34,585 --> 00:19:36,539 every stage of the way to make sure 513 00:19:36,539 --> 00:19:38,539 that we were representing all the different people 514 00:19:38,539 --> 00:19:41,099 that we need to reach. So we really 515 00:19:41,099 --> 00:19:42,480 made sure that we were representing 516 00:19:42,859 --> 00:19:44,940 the Oregon tribes. We were making sure we 517 00:19:44,940 --> 00:19:45,599 were representing 518 00:19:46,220 --> 00:19:47,200 coastal communities. 519 00:19:48,194 --> 00:19:50,595 We were making sure we got Eastern Oregon 520 00:19:50,595 --> 00:19:52,434 on the map and so forth. Mhmm. And 521 00:19:52,434 --> 00:19:53,335 from the beginning, 522 00:19:54,034 --> 00:19:56,194 we made it such a point to make 523 00:19:56,194 --> 00:19:57,014 sure that 524 00:19:57,554 --> 00:20:00,240 all of the design, the vision for the 525 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,720 the project was informed by all these different 526 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,039 people, by all these different identities, by all 527 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:06,019 these different cultures 528 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,000 to make sure that this was gonna be 529 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,679 accessible to all the people that we need 530 00:20:09,679 --> 00:20:12,240 to reach. Awesome. Awesome. You know? And and 531 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,904 related to that, I know the survey was 532 00:20:14,144 --> 00:20:15,045 totally confidential, 533 00:20:15,825 --> 00:20:17,345 and and it related to so many things. 534 00:20:17,345 --> 00:20:19,525 It had housing and health care and, 535 00:20:20,224 --> 00:20:22,465 connection and belonging, and those are all part 536 00:20:22,465 --> 00:20:25,184 of what you just described as safety and 537 00:20:25,184 --> 00:20:27,345 friendliness. You know? Do you wanna comment on 538 00:20:27,345 --> 00:20:28,404 some of that, please? 539 00:20:29,799 --> 00:20:32,039 Yeah. Could you rephrase that question? Yes. Yes. 540 00:20:32,039 --> 00:20:34,359 So the the survey was confidential, and I 541 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,919 know it it, asked me questions about health 542 00:20:36,919 --> 00:20:38,539 care, housing, safety. 543 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,460 And so with that information, with that storytelling, 544 00:20:43,125 --> 00:20:44,884 what where does it go from there, I 545 00:20:44,884 --> 00:20:45,945 guess, is the question. 546 00:20:46,724 --> 00:20:48,964 Yeah. That's a great point. So, yes, it's 547 00:20:48,964 --> 00:20:51,045 really important to note that the survey is 548 00:20:51,045 --> 00:20:53,704 absolutely anonymous. You can share as much information 549 00:20:53,765 --> 00:20:55,259 as you want to or not. 550 00:20:56,140 --> 00:20:58,460 We are all about centering consent in this 551 00:20:58,460 --> 00:20:58,960 process, 552 00:20:59,420 --> 00:21:01,099 and we do ask a lot of questions 553 00:21:01,099 --> 00:21:02,160 about your overall 554 00:21:02,700 --> 00:21:05,900 life experience across different sectors, including, yeah, your 555 00:21:05,900 --> 00:21:08,079 access to housing, your access to employment. 556 00:21:08,575 --> 00:21:10,755 And that's all really important because we wanna 557 00:21:11,375 --> 00:21:14,355 see across as many different cultural and geographical 558 00:21:14,575 --> 00:21:15,875 communities in Oregon 559 00:21:16,414 --> 00:21:19,455 what the relative access is to these basic 560 00:21:19,455 --> 00:21:22,195 human needs. Right? Like, a good job, 561 00:21:22,910 --> 00:21:25,250 good housing, you know, secure housing, 562 00:21:26,349 --> 00:21:28,369 and so forth, you know, health care. 563 00:21:28,750 --> 00:21:29,569 And so 564 00:21:30,029 --> 00:21:31,710 you if you go to pride in numbers 565 00:21:31,710 --> 00:21:34,049 dot org, you can find our data privacy 566 00:21:34,109 --> 00:21:35,950 policy. It's like a good six pages. We 567 00:21:35,950 --> 00:21:38,214 have put so much effort into making sure 568 00:21:38,214 --> 00:21:41,174 that this data is as private and secure 569 00:21:41,174 --> 00:21:41,835 as possible. 570 00:21:42,375 --> 00:21:43,815 And at the end of it, we're gonna 571 00:21:43,815 --> 00:21:45,414 make sure that the findings go back to 572 00:21:45,414 --> 00:21:45,914 community. 573 00:21:46,375 --> 00:21:48,294 Pride and Numbers commits to sharing what we 574 00:21:48,294 --> 00:21:50,794 learned directly back with two spirit and LGBTQIA 575 00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:54,089 organizations and people across Oregon 576 00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:55,130 in formats 577 00:21:55,670 --> 00:21:58,309 designed to support better advocacy and organizing. There's 578 00:21:58,309 --> 00:22:01,269 gonna be beautiful or, infographics. There's gonna be 579 00:22:01,269 --> 00:22:03,829 a beautiful report, and we just wanna make 580 00:22:03,829 --> 00:22:06,569 sure that this goes back into community hands, 581 00:22:07,154 --> 00:22:07,654 organizations 582 00:22:07,955 --> 00:22:10,835 to support the resources, the advocacy, and hopefully 583 00:22:10,835 --> 00:22:13,015 better policy that we all deserve and need. 584 00:22:13,075 --> 00:22:15,235 You betcha. You betcha. I think that's awesome. 585 00:22:15,235 --> 00:22:16,515 And when you say it goes back to 586 00:22:16,515 --> 00:22:17,174 the community, 587 00:22:18,195 --> 00:22:19,795 does that mean it goes back to, like, 588 00:22:19,795 --> 00:22:22,410 in my area, Southern Oregon Coast Pride? Does 589 00:22:22,410 --> 00:22:23,769 it go to my city? Does it go 590 00:22:23,769 --> 00:22:26,650 to my county? Who all receives this this 591 00:22:26,650 --> 00:22:28,190 information in this beautiful 592 00:22:28,570 --> 00:22:29,070 presentation? 593 00:22:30,170 --> 00:22:32,970 So we have dozens of partners across Oregon. 594 00:22:32,970 --> 00:22:35,289 That's one of the cool things that Pride 595 00:22:35,289 --> 00:22:37,845 in Number is building. We're building this web 596 00:22:37,845 --> 00:22:40,105 of mutual aid and support and care. 597 00:22:40,404 --> 00:22:42,565 A lot of other research projects tend to 598 00:22:42,565 --> 00:22:45,045 have a history of maybe being extractive. Maybe 599 00:22:45,045 --> 00:22:47,045 that's not their intention, but they ask a 600 00:22:47,045 --> 00:22:49,365 lot, and they don't necessarily always offer the 601 00:22:49,365 --> 00:22:50,184 same back. 602 00:22:50,669 --> 00:22:52,529 However, we've been reaching out to 603 00:22:53,069 --> 00:22:53,569 LGBTQIA 604 00:22:54,190 --> 00:22:55,009 plus organizations 605 00:22:55,549 --> 00:22:58,609 across the state as well as cultural organizations 606 00:22:58,909 --> 00:23:01,490 that represent black, brown, and indigenous communities, 607 00:23:02,109 --> 00:23:04,575 and we have been making sure to offer 608 00:23:04,575 --> 00:23:06,815 them support in return. So making sure that, 609 00:23:06,815 --> 00:23:09,534 like, if they need access to help with 610 00:23:09,534 --> 00:23:11,794 fundraising, that we connect them with other fundraisers 611 00:23:11,855 --> 00:23:15,054 or we connect Awesome. Urban organizations with rural 612 00:23:15,054 --> 00:23:15,554 organizations 613 00:23:15,855 --> 00:23:17,534 or you know, that we're just making sure 614 00:23:17,534 --> 00:23:19,190 that we ask folks, like, what do you 615 00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:20,950 need on the ground, and how can we 616 00:23:20,950 --> 00:23:23,750 help since we're right now feeling so connected 617 00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:25,910 to all these different partners? And so it's 618 00:23:25,910 --> 00:23:27,990 those same partners that have been helping pride 619 00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:29,589 in numbers along the way that we're gonna 620 00:23:29,589 --> 00:23:31,589 be making sure get that report back so 621 00:23:31,589 --> 00:23:34,184 they can use the data, the statistics, the 622 00:23:34,184 --> 00:23:36,445 stories to uplift their own communities 623 00:23:36,904 --> 00:23:39,384 and ask for the resources they need. Awesome. 624 00:23:39,384 --> 00:23:40,744 Awesome. You know? And and I know it 625 00:23:40,744 --> 00:23:42,765 only took me, like, twenty minutes to complete. 626 00:23:42,825 --> 00:23:45,464 I I picked English. That's that's my language, 627 00:23:45,704 --> 00:23:48,029 but it was also available in Spanish. And 628 00:23:48,029 --> 00:23:50,450 so I can just see great things happening 629 00:23:50,590 --> 00:23:52,990 within communities because of this. I know we're 630 00:23:52,990 --> 00:23:54,690 gonna be down to just a few minutes. 631 00:23:55,230 --> 00:23:56,910 Fox, what would you say would be, like, 632 00:23:56,910 --> 00:23:59,950 the biggest tips for our listeners today regarding 633 00:23:59,950 --> 00:24:00,930 Pride in Numbers? 634 00:24:01,904 --> 00:24:03,505 I just wanna say for queer and two 635 00:24:03,505 --> 00:24:06,565 spirit people being represented and heard matters. 636 00:24:07,024 --> 00:24:09,524 Pride in Numbers is a powerful opportunity 637 00:24:09,825 --> 00:24:12,724 to participate and show that we exist, especially 638 00:24:13,024 --> 00:24:15,044 in rural and frontier communities. 639 00:24:15,740 --> 00:24:17,820 Let's show that we are here. We've always 640 00:24:17,820 --> 00:24:19,920 been here. Let's leave a legacy 641 00:24:20,220 --> 00:24:22,160 of our voice and our story. 642 00:24:22,539 --> 00:24:24,240 Oh, I love that. Leave a legacy 643 00:24:24,539 --> 00:24:26,299 of our voice and our story. Oh my 644 00:24:26,299 --> 00:24:28,539 gosh. That that is, like, the biggest tip 645 00:24:28,539 --> 00:24:30,835 ever that we all get to do that. 646 00:24:30,835 --> 00:24:32,595 We're all a part of that. Everybody's a 647 00:24:32,595 --> 00:24:35,335 part of that. Leave a legacy. Wow. Unbelievable. 648 00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:37,634 Oh, I I wanna pride in number I 649 00:24:37,634 --> 00:24:39,394 just wanna, like, repeat the website in case 650 00:24:39,394 --> 00:24:41,369 people are interested. Please. You can find more 651 00:24:41,529 --> 00:24:44,430 information on Instagram at prideinnumbersoregon. 652 00:24:44,569 --> 00:24:47,230 Also, visit prideinnumbers.org 653 00:24:47,289 --> 00:24:49,769 and just take the survey. Like Joanie said, 654 00:24:49,769 --> 00:24:52,809 it takes, like, twenty minutes. And, also, please 655 00:24:52,809 --> 00:24:54,970 feel inclined to submit your art. We wanna 656 00:24:54,970 --> 00:24:55,869 see your gorgeous 657 00:24:56,414 --> 00:24:57,555 fabrics, textiles, 658 00:24:58,095 --> 00:24:58,595 beadwork, 659 00:24:59,215 --> 00:25:00,355 your photography, 660 00:25:00,815 --> 00:25:03,455 your paintings, and so forth. There's so many 661 00:25:03,455 --> 00:25:05,775 different kinds of art you can submit. Yep. 662 00:25:05,775 --> 00:25:07,455 I keep thinking of the song, Getting to 663 00:25:07,455 --> 00:25:09,375 Know You. That's what this is doing. Getting 664 00:25:09,375 --> 00:25:11,535 to Know You. Yes. Mhmm. Getting to know 665 00:25:11,535 --> 00:25:13,740 us. Yes. Getting to know us. Absolutely. 666 00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:16,200 Absolutely. Gee, I wanna thank you so much, 667 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,279 Fox. You know, you've been phenomenal on this. 668 00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:19,799 I know it's a quick show, but you 669 00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:21,799 know what? You've instilled and put a lot 670 00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:24,119 of hopes and joys in people's lives just 671 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,960 by explaining what is going on in the 672 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,144 in the connection with all of us. I 673 00:25:28,144 --> 00:25:29,825 wanna thank you, the beautiful listeners on the 674 00:25:29,825 --> 00:25:32,224 gorgeous coast of Southern Oregon and Northern California, 675 00:25:32,224 --> 00:25:34,304 and, of course, the majestic Rogue Valley for 676 00:25:34,304 --> 00:25:36,304 being with us today in a joyously free 677 00:25:36,304 --> 00:25:37,984 manner because that's what we've been talking about 678 00:25:37,984 --> 00:25:40,625 is joyously free. Again, I wanna give high 679 00:25:40,625 --> 00:25:43,024 tens, big hugs, all kinds of accolades to 680 00:25:43,024 --> 00:25:45,069 Fox for for being with us. You you 681 00:25:45,069 --> 00:25:47,809 were just phenomenal. So articulate. So articulate. 682 00:25:48,190 --> 00:25:50,509 We also wanna thank, so thank you. Thank 683 00:25:50,509 --> 00:25:52,289 you so much, Fox. Thank you. 684 00:25:52,750 --> 00:25:54,509 Hey, Joanie. It's such a pleasure to be 685 00:25:54,509 --> 00:25:55,950 here. It's been such a treat, and those 686 00:25:55,950 --> 00:25:58,484 hugs are received and returned. Oh, I love 687 00:25:58,484 --> 00:26:00,404 it. I love it. Fantastic. And let's give 688 00:26:00,404 --> 00:26:02,005 a hug over to Mike Gorse on sound 689 00:26:02,005 --> 00:26:03,445 and, of course, all the people that run 690 00:26:03,445 --> 00:26:06,404 KCIW one hundred point seven FM, Tom and 691 00:26:06,404 --> 00:26:08,644 Candice and Rose. We wanna thank, you know, 692 00:26:08,644 --> 00:26:09,144 KZZH 693 00:26:09,649 --> 00:26:10,950 in Humboldt and KSKQ 694 00:26:11,250 --> 00:26:13,169 over in Medford and Ashland. We wanna give 695 00:26:13,169 --> 00:26:14,849 a shout out to to the people that 696 00:26:14,849 --> 00:26:17,569 sponsor joyously free this radio show, Steve Van 697 00:26:17,569 --> 00:26:20,529 Cleve, Sally and Todd Roy. It's teamwork that 698 00:26:20,529 --> 00:26:22,210 really makes the dream work. I know that's 699 00:26:22,210 --> 00:26:24,849 repetition for many manifests, but teamwork does make 700 00:26:24,849 --> 00:26:26,875 the dream work. So we wanna say thank 701 00:26:26,875 --> 00:26:29,434 you to everybody. We wanna say have a 702 00:26:29,434 --> 00:26:32,634 great day, and as usual, smile big and 703 00:26:32,634 --> 00:26:35,515 wear bright colors. And once again, big, big 704 00:26:35,515 --> 00:26:37,035 hug to you, Fox. I hope I get 705 00:26:37,035 --> 00:26:39,055 to meet you personally really soon. 706 00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:41,940 I feel like it's gonna happen. I think 707 00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:43,859 so too. Thanks, Fox. Have a great day. 708 00:26:43,859 --> 00:26:45,960 Have a great day, Joni. Bye, everybody.