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Okay. We have a special guest here today
who's gonna talk about a
subject that a lot of us know little
about but wanna know more about.
I I wanna be before we get started,
we were thinking about how we were gonna
do a disclaimer on this because you have
to be, 27 years old to listen to
this show. Is that
I think that's all.
Okay.
Tony, introduce yourself and why you know what
you know and why we care to listen
to you.
Well, my name is Tony Stoddard. I,
live in Brookings. I've been here for about
ten years.
I
I've been
doing
construction most of my life, but
the last twenty years, I've been interested in
cannabis
and of the medicinal
aspects of it.
I started a business that
was selling cannabis
legally in California. I was a legal business
in California,
after 1996
when it was legalized for medical.
But anyway, I'm just a good source and
and Ray talked me into coming in here,
and Rick's a good friend of mine too,
so I thought I'd come in and talk
to you folks about cannabis if I can.
So I'm sure there's plenty of people out
there with questions or comments about a pretty
popular subject. Yeah. I noticed up here, there's
a lot of cannabis shops. Yeah. Yeah. And
and, of course, down my way, I live
in Smith River,
California.
But,
yeah, a lot of research, a lot of
changes over the years back when,
I got in trouble. Oh, and by, yeah,
you can text in, again, at (541)
661-4098.
So, yeah, it's legal here. Now it's funny
because it's so convoluted
throughout The United States. It's legal some places,
not legal others. And I guess 27
states now are are legal
for medical.
What is that? Getting on a plane. Can
you get on a plane with marijuana?
You know,
it's still
I don't know what the declassification
now that they've federally declassified
it is a little bit less,
if you can still get on. But, you
know, I used to just disclose, and they'd
say, yeah. Fine. Because I'd show them my
medical card,
and they'd say, yeah. Fine. You're okay. Yeah.
We had a medical card. I I have
traveled with campus, but I did I did
declare it. Okay. So, you know, I wasn't
I would just need the medical card?
Well, at that time, you did. If I'm
flying from here where it's legal to
to LA where it's legal? You know, anymore
where I'm flying to, it's legal. So Yeah.
I
just don't care anymore.
Back, you know, ten years ago, it was
a little different. But Yeah. And just don't
fly to some foreign countries who have pretty
severe
illness. It's kind of a no brainer. Oh,
yes. That's scary. But but it is scary.
I think I've lost Singapore,
Malaysia,
Indonesia.
Where did that basketball player get in trouble?
That I don't remember. I might have been
Singapore. I don't remember. But, you know, it's
crazy
Yeah. To think that
a subject that by now, I think most
people realize
marijuana can be very medicinal and very good
for a lot of people. Yeah. But these
countries I mean, we're talking the death penalty
for some of this stuff. Yeah. Which doesn't
make sense. No. Not at all. No. I
mean, here's here's a a substance that has
never ever historically killed someone for use ever.
And yet alcohol, you know, people die from
too much alcohol every month. There's, you know,
thousands of people dead. Yes. So yeah. It's,
and so and where I wanted to go
with it was as we age,
we need a little bit more in areas
that,
maybe when we're younger, we don't.
Where I was telling you guys earlier that
I don't know how many people know that
we actually have an endocannabinoid
system in our body.
So from birth,
we're actually producing cannabinoids in our system.
And so can cannabis is good for us
is the way I look at it. I
mean, there's gonna be people that disagree, but,
I think that it's I talked to a
doctor once when I first started back in
2010,
and he's a double board certified,
endocrinologist,
and he's was a researcher his whole life.
I asked him. I said, you know, we
have an endocannabinoid
system
in our in our body. And, he said,
well,
that tells me that we somehow evolved
with cannabis.
And when you look back that people have
been using it for over twelve thousand years,
then it makes sense that, you know, maybe
we evolved using that plant or at least
it was a part of our,
biology. Yeah. And it is. Yeah. And and
the way I look at it is as
we get older,
our endocannabinoid
system, just like everything in our body,
starts to break down. And as it breaks
down, it needs a little bit of help.
So that's where I think that cannabis at
at an older age
is really helpful,
because of that.
Yeah. The the
most of the research that I've been doing,
certainly says
that there are plenty of health benefits from
it. Yeah. Now my own personal disclaimer real
quick is I don't use it I haven't
used it for many years. Mhmm. But,
I'm not averse
to try trying it again of all the
health benefits that I do Right. Hear about.
Right. You know? I mean, right now, I
don't have any,
chronic pain. I know that's a big one
to help people with some problems. Oh, arthritis.
Older people if they Arthritis is it's fantastic.
I do have that. It's really it's really
fantastic for arthritis.
And and the best way to do that
is like a a topical salve or an
oil.
Okay. I that's where I first started,
was I was making
what I would do is take a pound
of cannabis,
and then I would reduce it down with,
a 100 proof alcohol.
And I would reduce it down to only
60 grams. So they call I used to
call it tar, but 60 grams out of
a pound of of weed. And so you
can imagine
how potent this stuff is. I have reduced
all of the cannabinoids
in a pound of weed into 60 grams.
So this stuff is powerful, powerful stuff. And
so once I started making that,
then I really found the health benefits. Because
with that, then I can dose it.
Because I'm very specific, very exact about stuff.
I wanna know exactly how much someone's getting.
And so by knowing
that and then so then I would have
that tested. Let me back up. I would
then have that cannabis tested and it would
tell me how much THC, how much CBD,
and all of that. And then I could
build a dose for someone who has cancer
based on that.
Now, what you have that tested here? Yeah.
And where where would that be done? There's
a place online that you can go to.
Oh, okay. Yeah. There's plenty of places. But
all these shops have a place that they
send their stuff to. Oh. And you and
anybody can send it to them. You can
send your spot to them, have it certified.
I didn't know that. Yeah. Mhmm.
Yeah. And I was doing that clear back
in 2010.
I was I I was growing medical grade
marijuana, and and medical grade is different. You
can't have
anything in there that is derogatory.
So it's gotta be just pure plant. And
by growing indoors the way I was, I'll
I'll go into that a little bit later
how I was. But growing indoors, you can
really,
you know, fine tune everything so that that
weed is is perfect.
And when you're giving it to someone that's
within,
you know, a very close of ending their
life, you wanna make sure that that's really
good quality medicine.
You know, bringing that up then, something I
didn't research or think about, people at the
end of life on hospice, is that do
they
administer that sometime, or is that part of,
marijuana's
health benefit?
I I know that Well, if you're looking
to take the drink to, you know, to
No. No. No. I didn't mean that. I
mean to ease the process. Oh, I don't
see why not. I I know. I would
them more comfortable. Oh, gosh. It makes people
feel uncomfortable. Alright. Well, it's not it's not
something that hospice brings as part of the
meds that There's a there's a woman who,
yeah, we
we we can help people with with all
kinds of cancer. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We
were talking about that.
Yeah. So when what happened was in twenty
two thousand eight, I lost my construction business,
and I had been doing that pretty much
my whole life.
But I had done quite a bit of
really interesting stuff. I built some medical clean
rooms and things like that.
Well, when I when I lost my business
in o eight, by by 2010,
I decided I'd go ahead and start growing
marijuana. I didn't know what I was doing
at the time, but what I thought I'd
do is buy these cargo containers,
these high cube cargo containers,
and then I insulated them and I put,
this stuff, it's called FRP board, which is
a a
water resistant board on the inside. It had
it's fully electrical.
It had a a climate control system in
it. I had air conditioning.
Anyway, it I was producing,
three pounds every two weeks,
for a while,
and that was medical grade marijuana. And and
growing indoors is really about all I know.
I I I mean, coming up here, a
lot of guys grow outdoors, but I've never
I've never grown outdoors, if you can believe.
I've only grown indoors.
And Go ahead. In in my house, in
my garage, there's a little room off to
the main part of the garage that has
a sink in it, and it's wired for
two twenty and everything. I was like, what
the hell is that all about? And finally,
one of the neighbors said, yeah. He used
to grow dope here. Before it was legal
and sold it. Oh, is that right? Yeah.
That'll be darned. Yeah. He was
disabled, but he wasn't getting enough money from
the VA to to pay for his life,
so he was growing marijuana. Mhmm. Well, Antoni,
we were talking,
before,
and I mentioned you it sounds like you
almost have to it's almost like a sign
a science to grow this stuff
and do it right. Not just anybody and
everybody go out there and throw a few
It takes some practice. I think that,
I'm I'm gonna actually go outdoors this year.
This will be my first Oh, really? Yeah.
I've got four plants that I've I've brought
up from seed, and I'm gonna take them
outdoors.
Little by little,
that sun is very powerful.
Yeah. And, of course, this is a unique
climate for you. Oh, it is a unique
climate. Yeah. I think I'm gonna have to
maybe
cover it just to keep the humidity off,
not enclose it, but just keep the humidity
off of it. Okay. Yeah. At night, the
those damp offs at night can ruin it.
We have a text
and,
short and sweet, I'll I'll read it here.
It says,
is I'm gonna insert something. Is marijuana as
good as Viagra for carnal relations? Let me
state that. It's better.
There you go, Cashier. I don't think it
has I don't I don't think it affects
the same things
that Viagra does, but it affects other things.
Okay. Yeah. It just puts you in
a a more
seductive space. It really is. I mean, you're
just in such an a nice space. If
if you use it correctly, if you know
what kind of weed like, I always try
to look at people and how they act.
You know?
If someone's really,
you know, just chill all the time anyway,
like
some people,
then a a really good indica
is not good for them because it's gonna
even make them more tired.
But a sativa
in general I mean, there there's no hard
and fast rule on indica and and
sativa.
But a good sativa,
it used to be, like, before they named
all this stuff. It was the house cleaning
drug.
If you wanna get up and clean your
house, do take a nice sativa, and you're
kind of enjoying yourself while you're cleaning your
house. Now so you can is more bedroom
stuff. Could could you, you know, could you
kinda go over the different types?
Because this
you mentioned something to me the other day
about sativa, and I really didn't know the
difference. So Okay.
You you kinda
skirted it, but if you go a little
more detail. Okay. So here's how it breaks
down. Cannabis
is the genus
of all
cannabis plants underneath it. Right? So,
you've got a sativa
and you have indica,
and then there's a root I think it's
rutilis
or rudellis. I forget how it's pronounced.
But those three are the main
species.
And within those species,
the sativa and indica are primarily used.
Those two are the ones that are primarily
grown.
And,
out of those two, the indica
is more of a
calming effect. You know, if you're like me,
I'm super hyper. Mhmm. I mean, I come
out of bed. I'm ready to roll in
the morning. So what do I do? I
get up and I take a huge rip
of a good indica. And now my life
I can actually get up and enjoy my
life with my wife
who wakes up slow and by That's funny.
Eleven or noon, she's really starting to wake
up. Right? It's me too. Okay. That is
not me. I'm up at six and I
go put my clothes on and I'm gone.
Right? Wow. But but if I hit it,
dude, I my whole life is better. The
whole day is better. I can enjoy my
life. But that's just me, and so I
know how to control me, and we're all
different. But you're not you you can drive.
You can do everything, but work machinery,
work in construction, things like I would never
do that. Oh. I would never drive. Okay.
Yeah. I mean,
what I am never saying you should drive
and smoke weed. Okay. What about the the
work you're doing, construction, that type of thing?
Well, once I'm on the job, then I
can, though. Yeah. I I had a
You figure, honestly,
for when you smoke something,
it's
you're probably maybe two hours. Yeah. It's about
all that affects me.
After that, it's it's time to take a
bong hit again, but,
or or not and just chill out. But,
anyways,
that's
I had a I had a I I
was a woodworker when I lived in Alaska,
my last few years after I retired from
my real life.
And I had a friend who was in
the same business I was, and
he he would go to the shop every
day stoned.
And I was terrified of the damn table,
so I was sober. And I don't know.
I I have no idea how he did
it, but routers and all the owners. But
anyway,
well, it's
So you interesting, Tony, you brought up about
the driving.
Couple things that I've
found out in my research. Again, I haven't
touched it for a while. And I'm not
saying I'm better off for not for not.
I don't mean that because I did plenty
of it before I was in my thirties.
Sure. But on the driving thing,
I have argued with a certain family member
who might be out there listening today
about
the effects
of driving.
I at one time thought or argued with
him that, oh, man, it's if you're, you're
driving impaired with marijuana, it's the same as
if you're driving impaired with alcohol. Well, according
to what I researched, I'm wrong on that.
Now
driving shouldn't happen if you're it's gonna impair
you,
but not as bad as alcohol.
I agree 100%.
Yeah. I was a little surprised. I agree
100%. And it said, actually, a lot of
now where they get this research, take this
with a grain of salt, but it was
what I came up with Mhmm. That people
that are
have smoked or got marijuana in their system,
they really tend to be a little more
cautious because of that. I don't You know
what? I think I agree with the the
drunk drivers will tell you the same thing,
though. Well I have trouble selecting the the
channel on the television, a little more cautious.
Isn't the way. It just they tend to,
maybe try to be more cautious. Don't follow
so close,
that kind of a thing. I was You
know, the way I always looked at it
is
if after a good bong rip, I don't
wanna get in the car. No.
You know, I'm I'm ready to hit the
couch, maybe read my book or or or
just relax. I'm not
whereas alcohol, there's difference in alcohol. Oh, yeah.
There is. It's so different. It it's night
and day. And again, we're generally talking older
people about
Right. With the marijuana. And hopefully, us older
people maybe have more common sense. You know,
hey, I'm feeling pretty good. I'm stoned, whatever
the Right. Term you wanna use, but I'm
not gonna get in my car and drive.
Well, I I was telling you guys earlier
about
my sister.
Yes. That was a heck of a story.
Yeah. So,
after I was rolling in in '20 it
was about 2011.
I I wasn't happy with
really
where the medicinal part of cannabis was going.
There was this new thing that was coming
out. It was called CBD. And, of course,
now, you know, CBD is all over the
place. But
back then Could you explain what that is?
Yeah.
It's cannabidiol
is what CBD is,
and and THC is
tetra oh my god. I forget tetra.
Yeah. Anyways,
CBD is another it's
there are roughly
500
chemical compounds in cannabis.
And out of those 500 chemical compounds, there's
a half a dozen that we have now
figured out
and and figured out what they do. And
and THC
is,
one of them.
CBD is another one. There's CBN.
There's CBG.
There's
we're we're just as, you know, as time
goes and and the more we research it,
the more, compounds we're finding.
But the two back then that I was
really interested in was the combination
of the THC
and CBD
in a one to one ratio.
Because that was the sweet spot where
THC,
is it, you know, psychoactive
and and but along with the CBD, the
two of them together,
it makes the THC not as
psychoactive,
but more of a medicinal thing. And it's
amazing that the,
once,
so anyway, let me get back to my
sister. So
I was growing a high THC plant,
but then I found this family in Spain
that were growing CBD plants,
and they were selling CBD seeds.
So I said, yeah, I wanna try that.
I think that there's a lot of medicinal
aspects of this CBD plant that people are
missing. So anyway, I got these seeds and
I grew the plant, and then I crossed
it with mine. And at that time, I
was growing up a, a strain. It was
called LSD,
and it was actually called LSD Kush.
And it was very potent.
It was a really good THC. It was
a very
robust grower.
It was a good end of cup,
hybrid.
And so by crossing it with the CBD,
I lucked out, and I got pretty close
to a one to one. I think it
was more like
in the industry now, they like to call
the CBD first.
So it was a one to two. In
other words, there was for every one part
of CBD, there was two parts of THC.
Not quite. It was like one, one and
a half.
And so I got really good results. It
started growing well.
And,
my sister
who
before the CBD came online
was,
she was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.
She was about I think she was 62
at the time.
And her husband worked for Duke University. He
was their,
corporate helicopter pilot.
And, he had
full run of the of the hospital there
too at Duke. And so they said, we're
gonna get her the best that we can
give her.
His name was Jack Carson. Jack, we're you
know, you're a great guy and we love
your wife and we're just gonna we're gonna
give everything to her. So sure enough, my
sister says, yeah. Yeah. I got pancreatic cancer,
but I'm gonna go into Duke. And so
meanwhile, I'm still working on the CBD plan.
She's over on the East Coast. I'm over
on the West Coast. I'm doing my thing.
And, and so it was about six
about six months, eight months later.
She called me up, and she said they're
they're kicking me out.
Nothing worked.
I'm due to die. So, hey, little brother.
You've been telling me about this stuff. Send
it
over. So I sent over just the THC,
cannabis tour, and this was again the the
Rick Simpson oil. So,
and you have to start really, really small.
Like, you start with a pinhead
of this stuff is all you need. Yeah.
It's crazy. So, anyway, I got her going
on it. And how how did how did
you admit you just put that on your
tongue or something? I what I do is
I put those in a little one gram
syringe
applicator, and it's not a, you know, not
a pointy syringe. It's just a a dispensing
syringe Yes. So that you can dispense it.
Anyway, so I gave her that, and that
was just the high THC plan. And so
here's this woman that was a Fox News
crazy person. I mean, she even went down
to New York back in the the tea
party thing when they were doing the tea
I mean, she was full on. Right?
So I didn't think it she would ever
come around. But, anyway, she's okay. You're on.
So as she starts doing
just the THC,
I'm starting to hear more words like love
and affection
and compassion
and all this stuff. And I'm like, this
is not the same aggressive woman
at this. It's changing her. It's changing her
literally.
So,
she goes, you know, Tony,
I can really feel it working.
Now here's a woman that's never done cannabis
in her life. She's 62 years old. And
she starts doing this and she starts saying
stuff like,
wow. This is yeah. This is way better.
This is way better. She's watching Cheech and
Chong movies doing
So I'm I'm telling my wife, Laurie, she's
coming around. I'm she's coming around. Next thing
you know, it's like, I'm I'm you need
to hang in there for a minute,
till I get my CBD going. So once
I got it going, I started sending her,
and it was about six months later after
I started her on the CBD
that she had an old appointment
with Duke University.
So she goes back there,
and they're like, what are you doing here?
You're you should be dead. Wow. And she's
like, no. No. No. Here. Take my blood.
So they take your blood. They're like, what
are you doing?
You're it's like
it's going away, and you're getting better.
Now, guys, I'm talking pancreatic cancer. That's huge.
I don't know if you It's a death
sentence. Yes. That's right. It literally is a
death sentence. You bet. And you have months
sometimes. Yeah. And so, anyway,
two
years, guys.
Two years later,
after Duke University, and she's
been as a fiddle for these two years.
She's doing fantastic.
And
To to this day, she's still doing Well
well.
No. She went in for a different
procedure Okay. And they cut the wrong thing,
and they
she bled internally and died. Oh my lord.
Well,
not okay. But That's a whole other But
for them chapter on that. Rick,
Ray, for them to send her home and
say, we've done everything we can do.
You're gonna die.
And for her to come back six months
later and say, hey. Take my blood. And
they're like, what are you doing? You're getting
better.
And then for her to live two years
before this other operation. Okay. So Okay. I'm
like,
wait.
The only thing she did was cannabis.
She didn't do anything else, and and that's
why it was such a great
test for me. Well She didn't had never
used cannabis before,
and so here's a woman that got rid
of pancreatic cancer
with cannabis.
And
I I'm surprised maybe they did. Did Duke
come out with
a news,
break or anything like, hey, this would that
should be a big story. So I I
came into this town. Here, I'm gonna tell
you a little what happened. I came into
this town. There's a doctor local doctor in
town. Everybody, you know, swears by him. So
I go into him, and I go into
the office. And I'm looking at everybody in
this office. It's high blood pressure.
It's, you know, these people are sick, right,
and my age. And I'm like, I don't
have any of these symptoms. Right?
So I go in there, and I'm talking
to the guy, and he's like, oh, you
use cannabis? Then
then I I don't wanna talk to you,
and I don't want you to be my
patient.
That's what closed minded.
Here I am. I'm healthy,
fit,
and you're gonna say you no. Nope. I
don't know anything about literally, what happens is
I don't know anything about it. I want
you gone. And so I had to go
find a different doctor. I and I'm just
curious. I think I know the doctor talked
to. Yeah. I don't wanna say anything about
that. Well, I don't either, but you're lucky.
You you got you got away cheap. Yeah.
No. No. Yeah. I've I've heard. And I'm
just curious. How did that come about?
Did you offer that up, or did he
ask? Do you Oh, I offered it up.
I'm
I'm I'm telling everybody. Sure. It's part of
normal screening now. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. Pretty
much. Wow.
Yeah. But, you know, it doesn't end with
my my sister. It it goes on and
on and on. I've got so many stories.
I have so many stories. I probably have
three people on cannabis oil right now that
have cancer. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah. So text in you all. Yeah.
Do it. 541
no. I can't even see the 661-4098.
Thank Thank you, Tony. That helped me find
out.
Okay. I better I better So are are
any,
major laboratories doing studies on this type of
thing?
I don't know.
You know, the way I figure it, Big
Pharma doesn't want anybody to know. Well, no.
It's just way, but, you know, if they
just kinda don't look at it and
do you know how much money they make
doing Well chemotherapy on people? If you watch
TV and every other commercial is a new
Big Pharma drug.
Pharma drug oh, it's not every other anymore.
It's, like, every one. Ask your doctor about
I'm I'm making a list. Reelable. And the
next time I go to the doctor, I'm
gonna ask him about all those things. My
trip is have you noticed the age of
these actors that they're showing? Yeah. They're, like,
in their twenties. Yeah. Oh, you got Crohn's
disease and you got oh my god. Now
the rest of your life, you're gonna I
know. It's pretty crazy.
I'm gonna jump back a little bit to
the difference,
between
CBD and THC.
What's the what's the stuff that gets you
stoned? I thought that was the THC. But
does CBD
also do that? The CBD does not. Does
not. Okay. CBD does not. Okay. You can
you can raise the CBD
potency
in your cannabis,
but it really doesn't make you that high.
Okay. It's the THC is the more the
the psychoactive.
Is CBD
what people take as a tincture?
Yes. Mhmm. Oh, yeah. Very popular.
And what was that? I'm sorry. A tincture
is like, I don't know. They mix up
a little. Alcohol. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just
take, like, this water
this quart, Mason jar of mine that I
use for water. Take one of these and
you and you put cannabis in it and
then fill it the rest of the way
with alcohol,
and then they'll let that thing sit for
about three months
and then take it out and and you
can actually tincture that. I'll be darned.
Wow.
And there's so nowadays, there's so many different
ways to imbibe, if you will. Mhmm. You
could
Smoke to Joanna used to be the
the paper roller, but they looked like a
pregnant snake. I could never get it right.
Do they do they even
still sell papers to roll? I don't Yeah.
I mean, that They do. A big thing
is pre rolls. Well, that's That's the thing.
Yeah. Oh, do people still roll? Do they
still roll? Probably. You know Because the story
like this dying art. There you go. My
my son is actually really good at it
because he's so meticulous. He just takes his
time, and they come out perfect every time.
They come out perfect if you just go
in and buy a box of pre roll.
I know. For $10. Or a pipe. Pipe
is easiest of all. Yeah. And the yep.
Pipe. There's bongs. I used to have the
bong. I even had Edibles too. What is
it? Edibles. Oh, edibles. Edibles. You know, the
You can vape it, I guess. You can
buy vapes for the marijuana. I think it
was the
I hate I think I'm not sure.
Was it the Israelis?
They actually
there is a military group, and I don't
know where,
but they actually administer,
a small
spray
of CBD oil.
And so it's used for,
last minute
use, like,
if you're hurt or something like that. Wow.
Yeah. There's actually
there are militaries that use it. So So
are you saying
to to kill yourself? No. Not to kill
yourself. No. Just for relief. Oh, okay. Relief.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Some of the guys I was in Vietnam
would have gotten wounded on purpose. So that
that wasn't
something. I even had at one time,
a hookah
that I bought back from Thailand. Uh-huh. But
it got it was confiscated in another whole
issue. But, yeah, the hookah. Not another way
to have fun with it.
I there's a,
you know, we were talking about the medicinal
uses, and there's another another really good medicinal
use for, cannabis oil.
I'm
Irish,
and Me too. Part. Yeah. And so
alcohol. I have very light skin, and I
have
little precancer things on your skin. Do you
ever do you guys ever get those? I've
had melanoma.
Yeah. Yes. So
I can actually burn them off, Rick.
Really? Yep. I can watch it start, and
I can put cannabis oil on that little
thing. And after about a week, it'll come
off.
Wow. And I have well, Joanne.
Yes. Joanne used it. Joanne well, Joanne, you've
her skin is I mean, it's like delicate
skin. Yeah. And she gets them all the
time. Okay. And so I'm sending syringes to
her all the time, and she just puts
a dab of it on that little precancer.
And within a week or two weeks, it's
gone.
Wow. Because I've had multiple of those noncancerous
burnt off of me. Yeah. And all over
the place. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. No.
I'm gonna be 70, and I've never been
in to have one burned off. And Wow.
For and my brother. Oh my god.
And my family, all my all my brothers
and sisters are they're going in there every
month to get stuff Yeah. Yeah. Dried off.
Yeah. So what is this you're putting on?
The same RSO. Now RSO
RSO, Rick Simpson Oil. So what happened back
I forget when Rick started, but
Rick Simpson,
real guy, back in the early I think
it was,
or late
nineties,
I think. I I I could be totally
wrong. But, anyway, Rick Simpson devised this
system of making
reducing cannabis
down to this cannabis oil.
And and it's a process of just taking
alcohol,
and stripping all of the cannabinoids off of
the plant,
with the alcohol. You kind of agitate it
and mix it up. I put it in
a big five gallon bucket
and pour a couple,
gallons of, 150
proof, you know, real alcohol.
Actually, I think it's what is it? 99
proof or something.
Anyway, so I use that because it's still,
drinkable.
You don't wanna use isopropyl or something like
that that is not good to drink.
So I use that kind of alcohol and
reduce it down,
And then I actually heat it and re
and take all that alcohol off of there,
and I'm left with this like I told
you, roughly about 60 grams
of cannabis.
So down from
so 448
grams,
if I'm wrong
or if I'm right. Four hundred and forty
eight grams is a pound.
Okay. And so you've taken 448
grams of wheat, and you've reduced it down
to 60 grams. And this is called Rick
Simpson oil.
That's one method of doing it.
It's all method this is available commercially?
I do it,
every
month. I'm making Rick Simpson oil. I do
it myself.
So
Are you
marketing this or yourself? Yeah. Like I said,
I have friends that are on,
oil already. So if you have, like, a
like, a wart or something like that, will
that work the same way? It won't work
on a wart. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Precancer, it
works. Mhmm. Yeah.
Yeah. Precancer, it works.
You know, so all of this
marijuana
product that we're talking about,
did this all derive from how do I
don't know how many hundreds or thousands of
years ago from the marijuana plant
that we're aware of now? Or I'm sure
people started, like, what you talk getting hybrids,
I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that.
That's an interesting I'm gonna kinda kind of
answer your question in a in a different
way.
The Ray was talking about it earlier,
and that is that the THC level today
is so high.
And that's all we're growing it for, which
is,
in my opinion,
crazy because it's plenty it it's plenty strong
enough the way it is. Let's let's work
on plants
that, you know, make people better, make them
healthy.
And and,
I think that a lot of the old
original strains
are getting
lost.
Had a good conversation with my daughter the
other day.
Cannabis today doesn't affect you the way that
it affected you before.
It was more I don't know. It just
seemed like it was more holistic.
Today, it's so it's so
fabricated. I mean, you know, trying to get
3040%
THC
is just ridiculous. So we I don't think
we need to do that.
But So you're saying it's higher now or
Oh, it's so much higher now. Okay. I
mean, that's the only thing they're growing it
for now. They're growing it for just higher
THC and higher THC because of the, you
know, the the few states that are now
legal, not few. There's I think it's 27.
That's a lot of cannabis.
And so by growing cannabis that's, you know,
makes you really high, it's
people want it, I guess. Why is it
still an an illegal market?
Why is there? They they smuggle,
marijuana in from Mexico all the time. Why
is that why does that exist? Probably because
the states where it's illegal,
part of it, I guess. I don't I
don't know. I used to spend a lot
of time in in Arizona in the in
the winter times.
One of the places we stayed was
I mean, there was literally trails, and then
not hidden little trails. There was trails of
the people coming in,
marijuana, and about
25 yards from where we
we had our motor home park, there was
a little camp where they met, and
and you could see that they'd been there
the night before because there's cookies left and
things like that. And there's a regular highway
coming in. Why why does that exist if
we can go to a dispensary and buy
it and take it to the states or
not in every state.
Not in every state is legal. I I
understand that, but
why would you be taking this chance to
smuggle, like, from Mexico if you could buy
it from here and take it to Florida
or Alabama or wherever it's Well, again, it
it you can't you're not supposed to take
weed across the state line. You're not supposed
to smuggle it either. I just wonder why
the smuggling
thing exists.
Well, because you can get a lot cheaper
weed
underground than you can from a dispensary.
Okay.
And so people in wherever that it isn't
legal,
that's where they're gonna get the cheap they're
gonna get the cheapest. They're not gonna get
right? How but it's pretty cheap anyway. Why
would you why would you like now in
well, in Oregon is this it's not that
cheap in California right now. Yeah. Yeah. Oregon,
it's cheap. Not not in California.
Yeah.
It just seems to me it would risk
doing a felony to
bring people across the border smoke
smuggling what I'm told was primarily marijuana. I
don't know. I I ran into a border
guard one day. I was up on the
mountain with my dog taking pictures of the
sunrise or something.
We started chatting, and then I I told
him I was a I was a a
police officer. And I said, but
this does it's I'm sure it's fun. It's
fun hunting people. God, you can't
but what's what's the point to what you're
doing? You know? And he said, well,
he kind of agreed with me, and he
he said, the way I look at it,
I have a job and they have a
job and that's it.
Well, I mean, I Some days you get
the bear and some days the bear gets
you. I and I know I know what
you're kinda talking about, Ray, but I and
I wasn't really aware that there's a big
marijuana
smuggling going on because it is so even
though there are some states that are draconian,
in my opinion Yes. About marijuana, my gosh.
I think the big worry now is all
the other crazy, the fentanyl and all that
other stuff. Yeah. I could have easily gone
down that road when when
you know the big bucks then. Well, I
was telling you guys that I was I
was rolling. I was rolling hard from, like,
twenty eleven to
not quite 2012,
when the feds came in with the the
local DA in San Diego, and they shut
every dispensary down. I
I was telling you guys earlier that that
remember that two pounds every
or three pounds every two weeks? Well, it
was still rolling after they shut all those
dispensaries down. So And I had so much
weed left over for a while. I had
probably
I've had probably a 100 pounds. Wow. And
and this property, it was kind of a
cool property that we, were growing on. It
had a bomb shelter.
Oh. Oh, seriously.
It was built, like, in the fifth yeah.
Yeah. In the day, it was a bomb
shelter. We had all the weed stuff down
the hall.
But I was approached by many guys that
were like, dude, if you sell it to
me for the right price, I'm gonna take
it over to New York.
Because New York, you could get, like, two
or three times the amount.
And I I just didn't wanna
cross weed. You're gonna split the pipe in
That was legal. Why would I do something
illegal? That's, like, dumb.
Yeah. Anyways It's legal in New York now
too. Yeah. Yeah. It is now. Mhmm.
Well, so it's just like California, it was
legal.
Well
In fact,
Well, in fact, long before it was was
legal, it wasn't anything to walk along the
beach and Oh my gosh. Get
contact eye. Well,
just don't walk along the beach in Texas
where they could now the just one of
the states that's a little hardcore.
You could you would get a hell of
a legacy. When I was in the army
in Texas, you'd get forty years for a
seed.
Okay. Really? One seed. I don't think it's
quite that hard now, but it's still kinda
harsh. She was 60
is it 68,
69?
How in the world is that
fair?
Well, did you hear me say it was
Texas?
Yeah.
Texas is
messed up. Yeah. I mean, Texas is so
messed up. The businesses down there get to
do anything they want.
They can pollute. They can there there was
a law passed. It was, like, five years
ago where their businesses there are not not
legally
liable for anything down there. If, like, if
they if there's a chemical spill, sorry.
Right. You know, every every time a Democrat
gets elected to president,
Texas wants to secede from the union, they
always have these petitions running around.
Where can I sign one of those? Because
is that It's changing. Did they bring that
up yet? Democrat down in Texas is gaining
ground. Oh, yeah. These are changing. I just
may have We'll see. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see.
We'll hopefully see.
So if you, again, questions or comments, you
can text in (541)
661-4098.
I'm gonna go back to the we talked
about the many health benefits. Mhmm. And,
another one was, maybe we cover you talked
about cancer, but it does help with people
on chemo and that have nausea. Yeah. To
mitigate some of the symptoms of That's the
biggie.
Yeah.
Yeah. I think I read about helping people
that have epilepsy.
Have you heard of that one? I that
came up in my
pseudo research, if you will.
It stimulate the appetite. That one I would
stay away from,
but it does help.
I know when I did smoke,
the munchies were pretty prevalent in my life.
That's fun. Yeah, that's the fun part of
it.
Oh, gosh. Yeah. That's the fun part of
it. What about some people who say they
get no effect from it whatsoever?
Oh, I don't know if I've ever
Really? Well, I know.
A couple people that have a really, really
high tolerance. Yeah. But
I I I don't know. And everybody's different.
I I gotta There you that's the biggie
on it. Everybody's different. And so when I
when I was dosing for people, I it
the dose was so small
to to get them started first.
And then I could kinda see where they
were you know, how it would
deal with them, and and, and then I
could go from there.
But,
yeah.
You don't you don't want people to get
too high the first time. That's not that's
not fun. No. We we were talking about
that because that's what happened to me the
first time. And you're right. It wasn't fun
then. Yeah. The second time, it was cool,
though, which And and if anybody has any
questions, there is a very,
wonderful documentary that was made in,
I believe, 1936
that explains
all the
ins and outs of of marijuana. You can
probably find it on on YouTube, Reefer Madness.
Yeah. Yeah. That, and you can also watch
that. You can find out how you can
become a murderer. That's right.
You can also watch
a lot of buildings. Watch the old Dragnet,
with Jack Webb.
That really did a number on people. Yes.
I mean, like, it my oldest my oldest
sister,
she has Parkinson's.
And I tried to get her on it,
and
no way. I mean, she was so part
of that whole
cannabis is evil, and it'll, you know, it'll
turn you into a That That movie was
made with just about the same quality as
the average gangster movie was made at that
time. So
Yeah. It's a joke. Yeah. It's a joke.
Well, now it's almost it's like watching Plan
nine from outer space. It's almost Oh, it's
better than that. Yeah. It's so bad it's
good type of a type of a thing.
God. I well, we were talking about bad
movies. I forgot all about that one because
it Reefer Madness. Yeah. We decided Plan nine
was also the worst movie ever made, but
Reefer Madness. I think I
would. Can you consider that Reef of Madness
actually had a budget
unlike Plan Nine? It was made for a
dollar $3.80.
Yeah. Oh, I'm sure it had a big
budget. Yeah. Are you familiar with that movie,
Tom? No. Oh, you have to look at
it. Plan Nine from Outer Space. Okay.
Yeah. Especially if you're a sci fi fan
because it's just right there. No. I I
don't know if you noticed my shirt, but
The Big Lebowski. I'm a Oh, okay. Yeah.
There you go. There you go. That's that's
a movie I like. Yes. That's a good
one. The Plan nine's right in there.
Have you ever seen Pineapple Express?
No.
Write that one down. Do tell. A cannabis
cannabis movie. Oh, okay.
We'll write it down. Ray Ray's on it.
Yeah. Now have we we talked a little
a lot before, and did we talk about
Charlotte's Web?
Oh. Yeah. No. I don't believe we did.
Yeah. You did. Expound. We didn't talk about
Charlotte's Web. Not on the air, and I'd
like to Yeah.
Give you. I'm I'm gonna be bad with
dates, but it was around that same time,
2010,
2011,
that this young girl in Colorado,
was diagnosed with a
terminal disease,
cancer.
And she was, like, four I think she
was, like, four years old at the time,
and her name was Charlotte.
Anyway,
CBD was just starting to come on. These
two brothers in Colorado,
they decided that they were also gonna go
down that medical road, and they grew
a CBD plant
with literally
no THC.
It was high CBD, but
little to no THC.
In fact, I don't think it has any
THC.
Anyway, they gave it
to Charlotte. The parents said, yeah. I wanna
give it to her. It's gonna help her.
So sure
enough,
after months and years, the little kid's fine.
She's great.
But you're talking about something where the medical
industry said, no. She's gonna die. And then
all of a sudden,
there's this cannabis oil that's involved, and she
lives.
So,
anyway, you you start to wonder how maybe,
I don't know, if we're being misled or
we're just not getting all the information. But
Oh, I think that's very possible.
Yeah. I I really do,
because think about how much money they make
during
a chemo session and all that stuff.
Big pharma is
yeah. I used to, years ago when I
was very naive, think
who would run a business and do anything
that would cost even one life Yeah. Let
alone
if you remember during the Vietnam War, they
were talking about the military industrial complex and
the man and the people who manufacture
weapons and things don't want the border end
because they make a I was very naive
at that time. Yeah. That's that's completely wrong.
Yeah.
Well, to to kinda follow-up and and put
in that, the Charlotte's Web Yeah. So it
is a strain. You can actually buy Charlotte's
Web. It's a strain that's out there,
and it's very good for,
any kind of cancer.
I have,
I had many people that were on it
for colon cancer. They get,
they get diagnosed with colon cancer, and,
they start taking this oil, and next thing
you know, they're better.
Prostate?
I have a prostate product.
You know,
I have a good healthy prostate.
I don't have any problem.
No. I I've re you know, I again,
I have to emphasize
that I believe
in my soul
that the endocannabinoid
system is a regulatory system.
And that when it's functioning properly,
it actually goes in and it regulates
cells in your body
and rogue cells, cancer cells, and it shuts
them off. And again, I wanna bring up
that word
apoptosis.
And what it is is it means that
a cell
turns another cell off, and it's then they
can do that. Our cells change. Our cells
change all the time.
What we live, our body
lives in a petri dish.
If you are
in, you
know,
a deprivation tank, your body's gonna suffer. If
you're outside in the sun, your body's gonna
do well. Right? And so,
it I think that it's just so important
to have a
a well
functioning endocannabinoid
system. And as we get older,
it breaks down. It's not
functioning as well,
just like everything in our body. Yeah. Yeah.
And so
that's where I am is the the us
older group of people.
You know, when you start hitting 60,
I I feel there's a huge,
huge open market for cannabis for that age
group. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And, you know, earlier we talked about, of
course,
not recommended for younger people. Thanks for bringing
that up. Yeah. Well The developing brain, the
young brain
should not be involved with cannabis.
I I believe that 21 is just fine.
Even at 18, you're too young. You're too
young. Your body's still your your brain is
still,
developing. And so
after 21, yeah, I and both of my
kids did.
They're
super functioning adults today. They're they're just great.
So I certainly know Joey. Yeah. Yes. I
mean, Joey Joey's aerospace engineer. Yeah. The kid
was on the on a on the annual,
honor roll. My daughter my daughter graduated in
three years
from,
Santa,
Santa Barbara Okay. And in three years.
Yeah.
So
and they smoked.
It didn't didn't bother them. In fact, Joey
used
my son used to get a bunch of
shit for it, but I mean, he was
the only one out of the forum that
got on the honor rolls. Well,
and that's a a good segue to another
little topic that I came up with some
research on Okay. Education.
I I did something about the educate
let me think how I can frame this.
Uh-huh. States with legal recreational
marijuana
generally exhibit
higher levels of education.
Now
part of that was,
prospective
college students
prefer to go to states, now obvious ones
that are
liking marijuana,
They did. They wanna go to states where
it's a little more liberal, if you will,
on so they can
obtain the marijuana they want. Yeah. And,
but it's
it the figures came out that they were
oh, go ahead, Ray. It sounds like the
higher educated,
states were capable of absorbing information and making
a decision from the information
they absorbed and didn't watch Reef of Madness.
Well
right. Or viewed it as the parody that
it now is. Yeah. But, no, it was
it was interesting. Most of the of the
states with higher education levels were states that
had legal marijuana,
whether it was medicinal
or recreational
or both.
That brings me to something that I'm I
know is not your subject, but you probably
must know a little bit about it.
As we were
investigating the idea of legalizing marijuana, we were
hearing about all the horrors, how you're gonna
have kids going into
the ERs,
ODing,
and, all these horrible, horrible problems is gonna
have murders and
terrible crimes occurring.
Has any of that happened
on the downside? And, of course, on the
upside, I I don't I don't know how
much money this community gets from the tax
from marijuana, but it must be pretty substantial.
You know, I don't know that much about
it. I really don't.
I don't know much about how much tax
they they make on it. And That one,
I don't know either. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I do know that when I walked
into
not being a person that uses it at
this time, and I haven't used it in
a while, but I I went to buy
some gummies for a friend of mine who
was having trouble sleeping. Mhmm. Have you thought
about that? Well, no. So I went into
the the one of the places here.
I was amazed.
It looked like
It's a candy store. A candy store. Oh,
dude. Literally, it's a candy store. But it
you know, and they had different stuff for
and I was telling them, Well, I'm buying
this for a friend who's having trouble sleeping.
Oh, well, come over here to this table.
I mean, it was really kind of cool.
Yeah, pot shops are awesome.
It's one of my favorite places in the
world. I I know one. I won't mention
it. But I I I went in a
couple of weeks ago, and and it's just
like,
I don't know, San Francisco before it was
legal. And that and the guy is selling
it at just
I guess the famous there's a famous one
in Oakland. I I don't know
what it meant, but he had been there
right after '96 when it was passed. And
Okay. And he's been there ever since. And
I guess it is
phenomenal.
I think it's, like, two stories, and you
can get there's they have lounges now. There's
a lot of places have a lounge where
you can go hang out and smoke right
now. Yeah, man.
In in California, when you needed a prescription,
there was always a doctor on
right there at the shop to give you
a prescription. Pretty much. Yeah. Yep. Pretty much.
So these medical cards are still out there
then, I I assume. Because I think I
read where some states
not so liberal with their marijuana laws, but
they did allow only if you have a
medical card. Did I tell the story on
air, or was it before we came on
air about my sister-in-law?
In Arizona,
they had, medical marijuana
you could get.
And so she had to go to her
doctor
to be recommended
to a doctor
who is one that's licensed by the state
to give
the card.
So she had
expense from the first doctor, $200
from the doctor that said and then $200
to buy the card, and then she was
not allowed to tell anybody.
Well But this was not part that gets
you high. This is part that take care
of her medical problems. Yeah. There you go.
And that's it. Marita, there's two teenage kids
live in that store. What do you think
about that? That's nonsense.
It's,
a couple I'm I'm just gonna say there's
one more thing that popped into my head
that overall,
cannabis is also or CBD, a high CBD.
THC to a high CBD
is a great anti inflammatory.
So that's why well, that's why it's so
good for for rheumatoid arthritis.
Because if yes. Because if we can, you
know, keep that swelling down, then your freedom
of movement is is huge. Yeah. But this
is a this is a topical or smoking?
Well, I like to use a topical because
it gets right where you're gonna be. Yeah.
Rather than, you know, ingest it now, you
know, it's
and not only that. I mean, your your
skin is your biggest organ in your pot.
Mhmm. So by just go ahead and rub
it into a sore elbow or it it
works great. Yeah. Get a good a good
salve that with a
a a high CBD in it and yeah.
WT
forty is supposed to be good for that.
Have you ever tried that?
That's with the CBD oil within
the WD 40.
And you can add THC and spread a
little in your mouth. Well, maybe the CBD
oil would be good for,
lubricating a lock it can't get over.
I'm sure it would be. Maybe.
Quieting a squeaky hinge.
Well,
okay. We've got a couple of minutes left.
Y'all can still text in (541) 661-4098
for a minute or so. Yeah. We're all
gonna hear about it tonight from people we
know or related to the rest of the
week. Is that right? Well, how come you
said this? How come you said that? Oh,
I sure like to hear from them. Tony,
we're thank you for coming in. I got
a good one real quick. Well, please. Go
for it. My
my wife's cousin,
he had knee surgery. And,
and so I sent him the oil to
rub on his knees. And so he calls
me back, and I kept sending it for
it was probably about two or three months.
And he's and he writes and he and
I get a phone call from him, like,
three months later. He goes,
dude,
you could use that stuff for hair growth.
And I said, what? And he goes, dude,
the hair on my knees, it's like, woah.
It's growing on my knees. I'm like, well,
that's a new one. I'll have to remember
that. But it really does help with hair
growth. I will. It really does. Yeah. You're
you're not a good example. No. I am
not a good example because I don't use
it. Well, you haven't
give it a try. Come back in about
a month, and, Tony, you look like Ray.
And that's for me. I doubt that a
lot. Yeah. It would be hard to get
that much hair. Oh my god. It might
be interesting for that Viagra effect we've been
talking about. Never knew that. Yeah.
Alright, y'all. Well, hey, Tony, thanks again for
coming. This is, you know, then this was
an important subject here in the community.
And we'll do it again. Alright. That sounds
good. We'll see how the public likes it.
And if they want, we'll do it. I
hope so. Yeah.
Strike the bumper music.
And here it comes. So alright. Again, Tony,
thanks a lot. Hey, guys. It was fun.
Tony Stoddard. And
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