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Thank you for tuning in to this week's

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I'm doctor Gigi, and my cohost is, as

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always, Jacques Kepner. How are you today, Jacques?

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Hey, doctor. I am finer than a lighthouse

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That's what I'm feeling good today because,

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that. Mick?

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I got to write this up. It's that

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when good medicine and health tips are colorfully

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presented by my German American actively practicing medical

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doctor, Doctor. Gudrin Reid. Doctor. Gigi,

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as she likes to be called,

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is also a distinguished scientist, and because of

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her research, she holds

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DNA technology patents in her name. I could

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barely say those words together,

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much less understand them. You have also been

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goes on and on. Wow. Alright. Doc,

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what medical marvels do you have for us

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today on this week's health segment of

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doctor MDG?

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No. It's true. Sorry. I I think I

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might have a flu. I'm not sure. Maybe

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it's a cold. I'm not sure. What is

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it about today?

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Today well, first of all, you have worked

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on the little preamble on Tommy. Right? Aw,

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cute.

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why having a cold is not the same

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as having the flu. Really? Yeah. So I

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gotcha. I'm clogged up now. Well, let's talk

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about it. Okay. So when we see someone's

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let's talk about the difference. Okay. First I

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gotta say, can I say something rather unrelated

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For me,

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food has never made me fat.

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No. Like a weight scale? Okay. That one

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went over. Bomb.

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I've heard better jokes. Okay. So both illnesses,

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the flu and the cold

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oh my gosh. That's our guess. That's hurt.

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the flu tends to strike much harder, faster,

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and with more serious consequences than the common

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The common cold, we just, from now on,

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in nose. Yeah. I know that stuff. See,

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I'm pretty smart. I've been around you for

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the nose and throat. Symptoms tend to creep

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nose, sneezing and a scratchy throat, and maybe

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a mild cough. Alright. I told doctor Gigi

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that I I keep thinking I'm God.

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way. Well, I answered shortly after I created

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the sun, the moon, and the stars, doctor.

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cold. And when it does occur, it's usually

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low grade. Most people feel under the weather,

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but they can still function and symptoms typically

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of lightning.

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pounding headaches, deep muscle and body aches, which

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profound fatigue and a dry hacking cock,

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classic hallmarks of it. Of the flu? Patients

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often yes. The flu. Influenza virus. Patients often

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describe feeling as if they were hit by

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a truck. Wow. I told doctor Gigi that

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I was losing my memory. She asked me,

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when did it start?

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I said, when did what start?

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Come on, John. Give me a laugh.

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with my flu. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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by a truck can linger beyond that.

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dividing line between cold and flu. The cold

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was that a real cough? It was. I

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mean, that's John Zimmerman or his he's a

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flu, however, can prog

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like asthma or diabetes

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or heart disease to the hospital.

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are for people that are thick and tired

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sunlight peeks over the horizon, I start eating.

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the treatment.

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So there is no cure for either illness.

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do not work against viruses even though a

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say antibiotics to anything that, you know, makes

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saline nasal spray, throat lozenges, and over the

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counter remedies such as the decongestions or pain

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for the muscle pain.

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Cool. Because especially the sleep because we

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during sleep, our white blood cells work the

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best. Our immune response needs to sleep. Now

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which is not an antibiotic, an antiviral,

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which is Tamiflu,

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it on. So that's the big advantage. He's

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over there. He's just having too many cigarettes.

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Doctor Gigi, hit the roof.

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Okay. My boss is going to fire the

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employee with the worst posture.

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I have a hunch it's gonna be me.

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I got her laugh.

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He has he has dragons. He has daggers

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from shooting from his eyes at I got

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K. So public health experts emphasize that the

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prevention remains the community's strongest weapon.

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frequent hand washing with soap and water, warm

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cover coughs,

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and sneezes. He was. So they don't He

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was. Right, I think. Well, he was. I'm

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just telling him. So he did good. Thanks.

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who are sick and

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stay home when you're really sick.

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dagger's on his eyes. Remember? Doctor Gigi told

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me that I have two parts of the

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left and right. On the left, there's nothing

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right. And on the right, there's nothing left.

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That one is a good one. Okay. Okay.

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Okay. So let's look at the prevention.

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There is currently absolutely,

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besides what I talked about, but there is

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currently no vaccine for the common cold.

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viruses, viruses, so many different rhinoviruses

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by themselves. And there are some coronaviruses too,

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by the way, that cause the common cold

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or the cold. But a seasonal flu shot

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as in, you know, the flu vaccine is

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recommended every year

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for anybody over six years of six months

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of age.

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likely being in the hospital. How long do

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they last? Or is there Every year you

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need to get it. For some reason, they

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do not the the flu vaccine the the

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the influenza virus does mutate a lot.

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to me that they you have to get

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a vaccine every year. But so far, you

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Vaccines are bad. Did you know that the

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worst time to have a heart attack doctor

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is while playing charades?

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Okay. It's

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as if your jokes are any better, buster.

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He's falling asleep on me over there. Alright.

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I have one more sentence. I have a

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gasp.

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Okay. I have a Alright. What do you

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have? When you when you say I have

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a flu or I have a cold and

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if you really wanna know if you have

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a flu or cold, so make sure you

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know how slow it came on, how bad

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you feel.

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Because,

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if you're just like somebody sneezing and and

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coughing and

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doing stuff like that, then you probably just

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have the common cold. And really, you can

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go anywhere because the common cold is everywhere.

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You cannot really pass it on. Used to

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have a temperature of the common cold or

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not? No. Not really. If they do, it's,

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like, very low. Wow. Alright, doc. A a

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baseball rolled into a bar, and the bartender

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threw it out.

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I I used to play instruments by ear,

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but now I use my hands.

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You're all the you're all the encouraging. I'm

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well happy.

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Alright. Well, thanks, doc, for that very interesting

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thing about now we know. Right? Now we

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know. We know.

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Oh, I can't find I can't find

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the.

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Okay. Here it is right there. Do you

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got Thank you, ma'am.

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I'm looking for the prologue for our guest

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today who is silent Sam over here except

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when I would,

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you know, tell these great jokes. But I'll

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read it off Gigi since I I can

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run up on my phone. Some of you

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heard that doctor Gigi and I were and

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me?

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Doctor Gigi and And I. And I. Yeah.

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Oh, my God. Now you got me testing

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everything. We're treated to a special event last

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Friday.

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When we took up an offer by our

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friend John Zimmerman to be flown out on

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a helicopter to one of the most iconic

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lighthouses in the world,

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that being the Saint George Reef Lighthouse,

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well, well, what do you think we're gonna

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do? This lighthouse

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is a monument that has withstood the test

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of time and interest. It stands

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just off our Northern California and Southern Oregon

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coastline like a Statue Of Liberty, but it

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is a glimpse back into time

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and was born out of tragedy.

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After the Brother Jonathan was wrecked in 1865

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upon the reef rocks and

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killing one hundred and sixty people, the idea

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was conceived and the lighthouse

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was eventually built many multiple years later and

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it took a long time to do it

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as we'll find out from John.

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How many of us have ever ventured out

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upon the beach on a clear day or

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stopped along a Coastal Bluff and looked out

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and seen the towering lighthouse about seven miles

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or so offshore? Unless you're in Ray Simon's

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house where one of the best views I've

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ever seen was from your house, Ray, our

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engineer,

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when you had that super telescope. The spotting

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telescope. Fantastic,

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man. That was so incredible. That was 13

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miles away, I think he said.

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You are most probably like us. You were

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fascinated by such a unique and memorable sight.

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So let's fast forward a few years when

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we saw that first saw that lighthouse

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to finding out from fishermen that, sure, the

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rock is approachable, but you cannot

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moor a boat anywhere around there as it

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is battered by big waves and sits upon

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the rocks itself. That means the only approachable

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way to get out to the lighthouse is

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by helicopter.

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So keep fast forwarding, and now you find

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John Zimmerman, our friend, and president of the

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Lighthouse Restoration,

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Society.

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And he, over many interviews and conversations about

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the Lighthouse on this very program and others,

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has offered doctor offered doctor Gigi and I,

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and me

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Right? You got it?

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Once in a lifetime opportunity. Would we like

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to be shuttled out on a helicopter and

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given a tour of the lighthouse?

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Well, do you know how high I could

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jump?

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Pretty darn high when I heard news such

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as this. So

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if off we went into a little red

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helicopter that flew us out to Lighthouse and

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we were given a robust and fascinating nearly

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three hour tour of the Grand Old Lady

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by vice president of the Lighthouse Restoration

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Project, Richard Hoff.

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We will give you we will give you

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our take

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on what our experiences will,

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on We're less than a week ago. Right?

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Yeah. Less than last Friday.

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And we'll be talking with John about the

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lighthouse because he is the man that knows

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it best. He has been out of that

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island multiple times and is a very big

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promoter of such a national treasure as the

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Saint George Reef Lighthouse. So Gigi and I

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are honored

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to introduce John Zimmerman to the Doc and

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Jacques Radio Show here live in the KCIW

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Studios. Welcome, John.

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Welcome, John. Thank you. Wake up. He's done

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with his jokes. I wasn't telling a joke.

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Did you say lighthouse climber? Yeah. I said

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I'm finer than a lighthouse climber because I

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had to walk up those I counted them,

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and now I forgot. Over 95 steps. 95

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and they're not that easy. No. They're pretty

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steep. No. Yeah. 95 steps, and we went

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circling around. It reminded me of being up

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at Fort Point in San Francisco at the

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at the battery there,

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the the big So you did give a

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good introduction about it for the lighthouse, Saint

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George Reef Lighthouse. And we have John Zimmerman

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here who is the president of the Saint

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George Reef Lighthouse Preservation Society,

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also called Boboto,

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as an acronym.

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Bobo

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gums? So, John, you were not born the

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president of such society. Where were you born

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and raised?

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Portland,

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Oregon. I lived there,

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through my college year. Well, up to time,

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I went to school in Corrales,

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Oregon State, and then I moved to California

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in 1985.

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Spent, roughly thirty years there and then moved

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to Brookings.

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Cool. And you've been in Brookings for how

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long? Almost ten years. And then how did

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you first

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I mean, you obviously had seen the lighthouse

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before you moved here or right after you

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moved here?

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Yeah. I,

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I studied lighthouses and nautical history from time

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I was a kid. And,

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Saint George Reef and, Tomahawk are the two

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probably the two outstanding examples of, of way

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washed lighthouses in The United States. They also

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happen to be built by the same engineer,

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Alexander Ballantyne. And when, Ballantyne finished till McCrack,

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then he started it on Saint George.

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But, I never really thought I'd ever get

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out to the Saint George Tree Flight House.

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It was just this situation that

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about the time I was

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volunteering at a, a Bay Area lighthouse, so

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it's East Brother down in,

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down in the Richmond Bay north of,

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of the bridge there. Yeah.

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I had learned that, Guy Towers had formed

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a society to, save Saint George Reef Lighthouse.

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And so I made a telephone call, and

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we got to be fast friends. And

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then, after a period of time, he had,

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invited me to come up to, fly out

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to the lighthouse in 2002, and they're relighting

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it for the first time in

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twenty seven years and, celebrate the hundred and

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tenth anniversary of the the building of the

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lighthouse. And,

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so, I did, and, we stayed in touch.

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And then when I retired, I

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didn't wanna go back to a major city.

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So I thought, well, Gee Brookies is kinda

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nice, and it's kinda close to Saint George.

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Maybe I can volunteer.

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So that's how I got involved. So there

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was a restoration,

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society then?

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Yeah. He started in 1986.

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Took him ten years to go through all

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the,

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paperwork

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with the various government agencies. Remember, that was

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before emails and any of that sort of

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thing.

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And,

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it took him ten years to get the,

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Lighthouse

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nominated to be out of the historic,

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register

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and,

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to create a board and to, get transportation

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out there and,

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then later on to comply with the different

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government and agencies,

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NOAA and,

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the FAA to land a helicopter out there,

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a number of other things. But Yeah. He

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worked his rear off trying to get this

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thing going. So it was state owned

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till It was still owned by the well,

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there's, it was under the, federal government, and

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they

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there, it was under the GSA to be

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disposed of. Oh, what? Like, torn down or

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Well, sold or or disposed of some way.

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Woah. In the eighties then. This is, after

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it was discontinued in 1975.

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I don't have the exact year that they're

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gonna,

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put it up to to be disposed of.

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But I do know in 1983,

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eight years after the lighthouse was discontinued, they

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took the first

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order lens out of the lighthouse and relocated

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it at the,

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Del Norte County Museum Mhmm. Because they're afraid

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that it was gonna be vandalized. There's already

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been a number of,

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lantern room,

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planes that were,

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destroyed from gunshots from boats.

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And, that lens is right behind that, and,

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it won't be a matter of time between

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the elements being exposed to were not protected

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by the

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the lantern room and so forth and people

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taking potshots out of it, that that priceless

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lens would have been destroyed. By the way,

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I wanna remind everybody that you can actually

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see the lens itself

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that it's massive. It has a big stairway

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that goes up and around it, and it's

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parked in the Del Norte Museum like you

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just mentioned,

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Del Norte County.

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Is it Frenzel Limbs? It's on Fifth and

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Age. The Frenel Limbs. For Fentanyl. Fifth and

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Age. I used to call it Frenzel myself

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until I got corrected. But, Augustine

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Fernel was the inventor that

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perfected the refracting

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qualities of the

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light beams and and created the Fresnel lens.

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And the glass is extremely heavy. It's extremely

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thick. Right? It's bizarre. Custom made.

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Wow. And it's Every one of them is

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different.

540
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,160
K. So Wow. So it could And assembled

541
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:45,660
there?

542
00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:47,420
They were assembled,

543
00:20:51,015 --> 00:20:51,674
they were,

544
00:20:52,455 --> 00:20:54,715
assembled either at the Lighthouse Depot,

545
00:20:56,295 --> 00:20:57,355
on the East Coast

546
00:20:57,815 --> 00:20:58,795
and then disassembled

547
00:20:59,095 --> 00:21:01,975
and wrapped and and numbered and then sent

548
00:21:01,975 --> 00:21:03,929
out to the Lighthouse. If you go to

549
00:21:03,929 --> 00:21:04,409
the,

550
00:21:04,890 --> 00:21:07,849
museum in Crescent City, you look along the

551
00:21:07,849 --> 00:21:10,169
brass that's holding each prism and you'll see

552
00:21:10,169 --> 00:21:11,309
a number. Oh,

553
00:21:11,609 --> 00:21:12,109
wow.

554
00:21:13,130 --> 00:21:14,190
They are exquisite.

555
00:21:14,490 --> 00:21:16,429
I mean, just absolutely exquisite,

556
00:21:16,730 --> 00:21:19,605
pieces of art. Yeah. And and they are

557
00:21:19,605 --> 00:21:20,565
invaluable. The,

558
00:21:21,205 --> 00:21:22,184
last I heard,

559
00:21:22,725 --> 00:21:25,205
the, first order lens that was taken out

560
00:21:25,205 --> 00:21:27,045
of the Point Arena Lighthouse that is on

561
00:21:27,045 --> 00:21:27,545
display,

562
00:21:28,565 --> 00:21:29,225
out there,

563
00:21:30,005 --> 00:21:30,825
at the lighthouse,

564
00:21:31,250 --> 00:21:32,850
not up in the landing room, but on

565
00:21:32,850 --> 00:21:34,049
on the Ground Floor in the,

566
00:21:34,769 --> 00:21:37,490
Fox Signal Building. This was thirty years ago.

567
00:21:37,490 --> 00:21:38,690
They figured it was worth 4 and a

568
00:21:38,690 --> 00:21:42,049
half million dollars. Oh, man. Trip. Well, thank

569
00:21:42,049 --> 00:21:43,590
god it's preserved forever.

570
00:21:44,505 --> 00:21:46,025
One of the things that struck us as

571
00:21:46,025 --> 00:21:47,545
soon as we got out there, we landed

572
00:21:47,545 --> 00:21:48,365
on the caisson.

573
00:21:48,904 --> 00:21:50,345
I was wondering how that was gonna happen,

574
00:21:50,345 --> 00:21:52,505
but it's bigger than you think. But you

575
00:21:52,505 --> 00:21:53,785
still gotta be a good pilot to get

576
00:21:53,785 --> 00:21:54,744
it in there. Oh, that was nice. You'll

577
00:21:54,744 --> 00:21:57,224
be whacking your helicopter blade on the side

578
00:21:57,224 --> 00:21:57,724
of

579
00:21:58,490 --> 00:21:59,950
the lighthouse. It was actually

580
00:22:00,410 --> 00:22:01,230
pretty close.

581
00:22:01,690 --> 00:22:03,930
But, Eric did a great job. Eric and

582
00:22:03,930 --> 00:22:05,710
Kirsten, great, great pilots.

583
00:22:06,090 --> 00:22:07,930
We were very lucky to get them. Yeah.

584
00:22:07,930 --> 00:22:09,690
So that was a cool ride. We got

585
00:22:09,690 --> 00:22:11,549
into the little red helicopter,

586
00:22:12,009 --> 00:22:14,204
and he flew around to the right and

587
00:22:14,204 --> 00:22:16,204
then he flew to the left and the

588
00:22:16,204 --> 00:22:17,484
person on the left and the right person.

589
00:22:17,484 --> 00:22:19,285
It was a beautiful day. The sun and

590
00:22:19,285 --> 00:22:21,005
the and the And then we landed in.

591
00:22:21,005 --> 00:22:23,565
We had a full tour. We didn't just

592
00:22:23,565 --> 00:22:25,325
go, okay, here it is. A full tour

593
00:22:25,325 --> 00:22:27,899
from every floor and, actually, while we talk

594
00:22:27,899 --> 00:22:30,399
about the lens, I did not know that

595
00:22:30,859 --> 00:22:31,519
the frequency

596
00:22:31,819 --> 00:22:34,139
and how often it pulses or or how

597
00:22:34,139 --> 00:22:35,179
it turns, that's

598
00:22:35,899 --> 00:22:38,720
each lighthouse is different. I had no idea.

599
00:22:39,019 --> 00:22:40,484
Well, how else if you're on a

600
00:22:41,365 --> 00:22:42,964
ship and you're looking along the shore, you

601
00:22:42,964 --> 00:22:45,045
have a Pacific Coast pilot which would tell

602
00:22:45,045 --> 00:22:47,684
you when to look for lighthouses and and

603
00:22:47,684 --> 00:22:48,345
so forth

604
00:22:49,125 --> 00:22:51,204
or listen for foghorns because they they were

605
00:22:51,204 --> 00:22:53,765
all different too. Yeah. How would you know

606
00:22:53,765 --> 00:22:55,525
where you were if they didn't each have

607
00:22:55,525 --> 00:22:58,720
a different flashing signal? Well, now I know

608
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,920
better. But back then, I just thought there

609
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,920
was something. Yeah. That's very horn. The horn

610
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,559
was the foghorn Same. And that's what I

611
00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:08,325
would think would drive any,

612
00:23:09,284 --> 00:23:11,764
tender or keeper of the lighthouse crazy. I

613
00:23:11,845 --> 00:23:13,464
you had to put up with that noise?

614
00:23:13,524 --> 00:23:15,204
John Gibbons told me, and I've had I

615
00:23:15,204 --> 00:23:16,884
just talked to him today on the phone.

616
00:23:16,884 --> 00:23:18,565
I've talked to two of the 90 year

617
00:23:18,565 --> 00:23:20,799
old lighthouse keepers last two days. I sent

618
00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:23,039
them each a picture of the lighthouse revolving

619
00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:24,480
so they they would see it. And, of

620
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,339
course, they're very, very happy about that.

621
00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:29,039
But he told me a long time ago,

622
00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:31,059
and and I can't give you the duration,

623
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,544
but the fuck horn will go off and

624
00:23:33,544 --> 00:23:35,085
then there'd be a short duration

625
00:23:35,464 --> 00:23:37,065
and then it'll go on again and then

626
00:23:37,065 --> 00:23:39,065
there'd be a longer duration. He said when

627
00:23:39,065 --> 00:23:41,884
when the foghorn was on, the keepers instinctively

628
00:23:42,105 --> 00:23:44,684
knew when to stop talking and start talking.

629
00:23:44,984 --> 00:23:46,424
Uh-huh. They tried to talk over. There wasn't

630
00:23:46,424 --> 00:23:48,190
any possibility of that. Yeah. And if you

631
00:23:48,190 --> 00:23:50,190
went inside of the lighthouse, it was six

632
00:23:50,190 --> 00:23:52,029
and a half foot thick walls. You could

633
00:23:52,029 --> 00:23:54,670
not get away from that noise. Right. Oh

634
00:23:54,670 --> 00:23:56,590
my god. We went down the basement where

635
00:23:56,590 --> 00:23:57,570
it that foghorn

636
00:23:57,950 --> 00:24:00,190
well, it stood with huge what was it?

637
00:24:00,190 --> 00:24:01,090
Ran by steam?

638
00:24:01,470 --> 00:24:03,835
Originally, it was whistle. A steam whistle, and

639
00:24:03,835 --> 00:24:06,714
the whistles protruded out of the caisson. Mhmm.

640
00:24:06,714 --> 00:24:09,194
And then later on, they converted from steam

641
00:24:09,194 --> 00:24:12,654
equipment to distillant engines, which is internal combustion,

642
00:24:12,875 --> 00:24:14,730
big wheels, you know, hit and miss engines.

643
00:24:15,289 --> 00:24:16,410
And they ran a,

644
00:24:17,049 --> 00:24:19,210
some type of a foghorn with that. But

645
00:24:19,210 --> 00:24:20,750
then later on after that,

646
00:24:21,450 --> 00:24:21,769
they,

647
00:24:22,569 --> 00:24:24,589
converted to a what they call a diaphone.

648
00:24:24,650 --> 00:24:26,509
And a diaphone is a two

649
00:24:26,904 --> 00:24:27,404
tone,

650
00:24:28,825 --> 00:24:30,444
foghorn and it goes

651
00:24:31,144 --> 00:24:32,125
beeee o.

652
00:24:33,224 --> 00:24:34,984
Woah. And they all do? All all of

653
00:24:34,984 --> 00:24:35,724
those biophones

654
00:24:36,025 --> 00:24:38,265
do? But but here again, they are the

655
00:24:38,265 --> 00:24:40,585
duration of the the the tone and the

656
00:24:40,585 --> 00:24:42,779
duration of how often they go off is

657
00:24:42,779 --> 00:24:44,860
all listed in the coast pilot so that

658
00:24:44,860 --> 00:24:46,860
if you're in fog or you just hear

659
00:24:46,860 --> 00:24:48,460
them and you can't see them, you know

660
00:24:48,460 --> 00:24:50,700
exactly where you are. That sounds Well, we

661
00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:51,440
were wondering,

662
00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:53,900
the the Foghorn down in Crescent City is

663
00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:55,740
on day in, day out all the time

664
00:24:55,740 --> 00:24:57,500
every if there's fog or not. In our

665
00:24:57,500 --> 00:24:58,964
house. Yeah. So I'm wondering,

666
00:24:59,505 --> 00:25:01,984
was the foghorn going throughout or only if

667
00:25:01,984 --> 00:25:03,744
there's No. No. In those days, the man

668
00:25:03,744 --> 00:25:05,744
lighthouse, they only fired that thing up when

669
00:25:05,744 --> 00:25:08,005
it was necessary. And I remember Bob Hagemeister,

670
00:25:08,625 --> 00:25:11,524
who's the third 90 year old plus, lightkeeper

671
00:25:11,970 --> 00:25:13,809
who just recently passed away about a week

672
00:25:13,809 --> 00:25:14,309
ago.

673
00:25:15,089 --> 00:25:17,009
He told me he said, you know, you'd

674
00:25:17,009 --> 00:25:18,769
you'd see the fog coming in. If you

675
00:25:18,769 --> 00:25:20,529
couldn't see a mile off the lighthouse, you

676
00:25:20,529 --> 00:25:22,529
go down and start up the engines and

677
00:25:22,529 --> 00:25:24,769
and get the compressed air to the the

678
00:25:24,769 --> 00:25:27,785
right, level and then you'd trip the foghorn,

679
00:25:28,085 --> 00:25:29,924
get it going. And he said, you go

680
00:25:29,924 --> 00:25:31,285
all the way down the stairs, you start

681
00:25:31,285 --> 00:25:32,884
up the thing and then you go outside

682
00:25:32,884 --> 00:25:34,025
and be clear again.

683
00:25:34,404 --> 00:25:36,404
Oh, wow. You shut it down. Yeah. Then

684
00:25:36,404 --> 00:25:37,924
you go inside and you go back out

685
00:25:37,924 --> 00:25:39,705
and then it'll be it'll be foggy again.

686
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,039
But, you know, compare that to the old

687
00:25:42,039 --> 00:25:43,179
days when you had

688
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,639
boilers and you had to build up a

689
00:25:45,639 --> 00:25:47,240
head of steam which took quite a bit

690
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:47,899
of time.

691
00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:50,039
And you you get the steam build up

692
00:25:50,039 --> 00:25:51,399
and all of a sudden the fog goes

693
00:25:51,399 --> 00:25:51,899
away.

694
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:52,700
Right?

695
00:25:53,345 --> 00:25:55,025
Just So they had it easy. They use

696
00:25:55,025 --> 00:25:56,224
a switch compared to,

697
00:25:56,785 --> 00:25:59,025
to having to, you know, to shovel coal

698
00:25:59,025 --> 00:25:59,845
into the

699
00:26:00,144 --> 00:26:02,325
firebox to raise a head of steam.

700
00:26:02,865 --> 00:26:04,945
Wow. What a bunch of work. Okay. Let's

701
00:26:04,945 --> 00:26:06,565
let's go back to the beginnings.

702
00:26:07,345 --> 00:26:08,244
Tell us about

703
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:10,380
the brother Jonathan shipwreck,

704
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,559
which originated in San Francisco. They stopped in

705
00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:15,720
Crescent City, and you tell the rest. Yeah.

706
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,279
They they,

707
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,320
actually, Richard Hoff tells a much better narrative

708
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,194
of the brother Jonathan than I do. Hey,

709
00:26:21,194 --> 00:26:23,294
Richard. You gave a great tour this afternoon.

710
00:26:23,355 --> 00:26:25,194
And he does a great job of that

711
00:26:25,194 --> 00:26:27,454
as well. And, of course, Harlan Watkins, he's

712
00:26:27,914 --> 00:26:30,394
outstanding. He's the project foreman out there, and

713
00:26:30,394 --> 00:26:32,875
he organized the crews. And and, you know,

714
00:26:32,875 --> 00:26:34,554
we couldn't do without those two. I mean,

715
00:26:34,554 --> 00:26:36,174
they do a fantastic job.

716
00:26:37,470 --> 00:26:39,970
But the, brother Jonathan was overloaded,

717
00:26:41,070 --> 00:26:42,930
as as with many

718
00:26:43,309 --> 00:26:43,809
sidewall

719
00:26:44,190 --> 00:26:46,849
steamers of the day, he was not overpowered

720
00:26:47,150 --> 00:26:48,210
to say the least.

721
00:26:48,934 --> 00:26:49,335
And,

722
00:26:49,974 --> 00:26:52,454
was that What year? This is 1865.

723
00:26:52,454 --> 00:26:54,775
K. I think the engines were, like, 200

724
00:26:54,775 --> 00:26:57,654
horsepower or something like that. Oh. And, they

725
00:26:57,654 --> 00:26:59,575
were they were overloaded. And,

726
00:27:00,214 --> 00:27:02,055
they went out and they tried to get

727
00:27:02,055 --> 00:27:04,109
back, and they didn't make it. Because it

728
00:27:04,109 --> 00:27:06,190
was so foggy. They they kept Well, the

729
00:27:06,190 --> 00:27:07,869
storm is do you see get what they

730
00:27:07,869 --> 00:27:09,549
call what's what they call that when you

731
00:27:09,549 --> 00:27:11,630
have a mist from all the breakers where

732
00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:13,789
you just can't see anything? It's not even

733
00:27:13,789 --> 00:27:15,470
a fog. It's a well, it's a fog,

734
00:27:15,470 --> 00:27:16,829
but it's a mist from the all the

735
00:27:16,829 --> 00:27:18,494
wave action. Yeah. But

736
00:27:18,894 --> 00:27:20,815
frequently in the old days, they would take

737
00:27:20,815 --> 00:27:21,795
steamers between

738
00:27:22,255 --> 00:27:24,654
Northwest Rock where the lighthouse is located and

739
00:27:24,654 --> 00:27:26,894
Southwest Rock. There's about a mile, mile and

740
00:27:26,894 --> 00:27:28,115
a half gap there.

741
00:27:28,494 --> 00:27:28,974
But,

742
00:27:29,535 --> 00:27:32,115
as years went by, that wasn't advised because

743
00:27:32,380 --> 00:27:34,460
if you get thick weather, you can't see.

744
00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:35,740
You know, you just don't know where you

745
00:27:35,740 --> 00:27:36,240
are.

746
00:27:36,779 --> 00:27:38,859
Even with the lighthouse, you sometimes don't know

747
00:27:38,859 --> 00:27:39,679
where you are.

748
00:27:39,980 --> 00:27:42,460
So it was laden with, 250,

749
00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:43,500
260

750
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:46,025
souls were aboard of this ill fated ship

751
00:27:46,025 --> 00:27:47,545
with a bunch of gold. That was a

752
00:27:47,545 --> 00:27:48,984
lot of gold. A lot of gold. And

753
00:27:48,984 --> 00:27:51,224
so it hit the Dragon Reef Rocks, which

754
00:27:51,224 --> 00:27:53,384
was that I love that name that Either

755
00:27:53,384 --> 00:27:55,565
Jonathan Jonathan Rock or

756
00:27:55,944 --> 00:27:57,545
Mansfield Break, one of them.

757
00:27:58,105 --> 00:27:59,325
They call the Collective

758
00:27:59,785 --> 00:28:00,285
Reef

759
00:28:00,660 --> 00:28:03,160
the Dragon Rocks or Saint George's Reef.

760
00:28:03,779 --> 00:28:06,100
Wow. The dragon. Dragon. Yeah. Man, we could

761
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:09,380
have had a lighthouse dragon. Saint George slew

762
00:28:09,380 --> 00:28:10,740
the dragon. That's right. That's right. That's right.

763
00:28:10,740 --> 00:28:11,400
That's right.

764
00:28:11,779 --> 00:28:14,100
Yep. I heard. So a hundred and fifty

765
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:16,289
or 100 sixty of those souls died. So

766
00:28:16,555 --> 00:28:18,555
Some were rescued and were able to get

767
00:28:18,555 --> 00:28:19,214
back in

768
00:28:19,515 --> 00:28:20,174
to shore.

769
00:28:20,555 --> 00:28:23,275
But wasn't it salvaged? Somebody ran went out

770
00:28:23,275 --> 00:28:25,515
there and grabbed the gold. Right? Yeah. I

771
00:28:25,515 --> 00:28:27,115
hear again, I'm not really clear on the

772
00:28:27,115 --> 00:28:28,894
facts. I've read them, but I haven't internalized

773
00:28:29,035 --> 00:28:30,795
the, information. But they,

774
00:28:31,195 --> 00:28:32,819
they found the gold, but but they didn't

775
00:28:32,819 --> 00:28:33,720
find it all.

776
00:28:34,339 --> 00:28:36,339
And they, brought a lot of it up,

777
00:28:36,339 --> 00:28:38,419
and it was worth, you know, considerable amount

778
00:28:38,419 --> 00:28:41,059
of money. Wow. How cool is that? Alright.

779
00:28:41,059 --> 00:28:43,220
We gotta take a break here right now

780
00:28:43,220 --> 00:28:45,619
because it, time flies when we're having fun.

781
00:28:45,619 --> 00:28:47,734
It's already that mid break time here on

782
00:28:47,734 --> 00:28:49,034
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783
00:28:49,335 --> 00:28:50,234
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784
00:28:50,855 --> 00:28:51,355
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785
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786
00:28:54,454 --> 00:28:56,875
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787
00:28:57,095 --> 00:28:59,815
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788
00:28:59,815 --> 00:29:01,740
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00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:03,840
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a new team that has joined us on

806
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:40,605
this,

807
00:29:41,085 --> 00:29:43,085
as a supporter of the Coastal Home Health

808
00:29:43,085 --> 00:29:43,744
and Hospice.

809
00:29:44,204 --> 00:29:46,464
Even though that's the umbrella,

810
00:29:46,845 --> 00:29:47,345
organization,

811
00:29:48,845 --> 00:29:50,065
this, exemplary,

812
00:29:51,005 --> 00:29:54,224
it's actually durable medical equipment, DME.

813
00:29:54,765 --> 00:29:57,259
That's what they do. They they have great

814
00:29:57,259 --> 00:29:57,759
priced,

815
00:29:59,179 --> 00:30:00,400
durable to a nonprofit.

816
00:30:00,859 --> 00:30:03,179
It's a non profit. Right? Mhmm. It's all

817
00:30:03,179 --> 00:30:04,160
covered by three.

818
00:30:04,539 --> 00:30:07,366
And they have great beds and hospital beds.

819
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:08,000
Wheelchairs

820
00:30:08,380 --> 00:30:11,255
and unit diapers, nebulizers, I guess. Right. So

821
00:30:11,255 --> 00:30:12,454
they have all that stuff and it's in

822
00:30:12,454 --> 00:30:14,855
Brookings. And so that is open for all

823
00:30:14,855 --> 00:30:17,255
of our, purviewing. And lastly, I'd like to

824
00:30:17,255 --> 00:30:19,174
thank my dear co host doctor Gigi Reed

825
00:30:19,174 --> 00:30:22,075
and yours truly, Jacques. On behalf of KCIW,

826
00:30:22,535 --> 00:30:24,315
thanks to all of you.

827
00:30:24,615 --> 00:30:26,500
Alright, doc. Let's hit him up with some

828
00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:29,460
more questions to this man who is the

829
00:30:29,460 --> 00:30:32,119
president of the Saint George Reef Lighthouse Preservation

830
00:30:32,259 --> 00:30:33,480
Society. That's a mouthful.

831
00:30:33,859 --> 00:30:35,779
Yeah. You should abbreviate it. And by the

832
00:30:35,779 --> 00:30:37,779
way, when you said how Tell me how.

833
00:30:37,779 --> 00:30:38,839
I've tried it

834
00:30:39,794 --> 00:30:41,634
because you have to change all our documents

835
00:30:41,634 --> 00:30:42,375
as a nonprofit,

836
00:30:42,754 --> 00:30:45,075
which should be a a pain. But I've

837
00:30:45,075 --> 00:30:46,674
tried to think because we thought about how

838
00:30:46,674 --> 00:30:48,355
about just the St. George Lighthouse where there's

839
00:30:48,355 --> 00:30:50,434
a St. George Lighthouse down in Florida. Oh.

840
00:30:50,434 --> 00:30:52,910
Because that won't work. Right. Yeah. How about

841
00:30:52,910 --> 00:30:56,369
Dragon Reef? Like oh, yeah. How about

842
00:30:56,910 --> 00:30:59,710
Dock And Jacques? D R. Lighthouse. Doctor is

843
00:30:59,710 --> 00:31:03,250
locked or dot, Dragon Rock. Yeah. Lighthouse.

844
00:31:03,924 --> 00:31:06,085
Okay. So You were ill. Alright. So we

845
00:31:06,085 --> 00:31:08,484
flew over there, and you stayed over in

846
00:31:08,484 --> 00:31:09,384
the other side.

847
00:31:09,684 --> 00:31:11,605
You didn't come with us, but we're tell

848
00:31:11,684 --> 00:31:14,805
we're here to talk about our fantastic visit

849
00:31:14,805 --> 00:31:16,724
to the lighthouse. Yes. And I wanna hear

850
00:31:16,724 --> 00:31:18,884
all about it. Okay. So number well, first

851
00:31:18,884 --> 00:31:19,500
of all,

852
00:31:19,900 --> 00:31:22,140
it is in kind of in disarray and

853
00:31:22,140 --> 00:31:22,880
is in

854
00:31:23,180 --> 00:31:25,660
despair. We were gonna fly out on the

855
00:31:25,660 --> 00:31:27,839
Thursday, but then there was such a

856
00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:28,720
big

857
00:31:29,019 --> 00:31:31,259
storm the day and the the day before

858
00:31:31,259 --> 00:31:32,559
and the day before that

859
00:31:33,524 --> 00:31:36,664
that knocked out several windows and several doors.

860
00:31:36,724 --> 00:31:38,264
And so you had volunteers

861
00:31:38,565 --> 00:31:39,224
out there

862
00:31:39,764 --> 00:31:42,325
that cleaned up the place so we could

863
00:31:42,325 --> 00:31:43,065
get in.

864
00:31:43,524 --> 00:31:45,204
It was nice and clean, but you the

865
00:31:45,204 --> 00:31:46,664
windows were all shuttered.

866
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,200
Right. It took five days to do that.

867
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,480
That was a cold Wow. That was a

868
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,480
cold continent. Cold here. Yeah. Three inches of

869
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,400
rain or Yeah. Three inches of water in

870
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,080
the kitchen. And then it The kitchen is

871
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,840
the the galley is high up. Then it

872
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,240
swirls down and goes down all the stairs.

873
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,000
And I guess there are dead fish and

874
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,154
just seaweed and just junk. Everybody was Well,

875
00:32:04,154 --> 00:32:05,375
dead birds mainly.

876
00:32:05,914 --> 00:32:07,755
Oh. Yeah. How did they get there? I

877
00:32:07,755 --> 00:32:09,115
mean, the Well, they got in and couldn't

878
00:32:09,115 --> 00:32:09,855
get out.

879
00:32:10,954 --> 00:32:12,974
Why? You mean, like like,

880
00:32:14,315 --> 00:32:17,880
seagulls? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Oh, wow. Big arm.

881
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,480
Yeah. So it was all nice and dry

882
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,640
when we got there? They've been squeegeed down.

883
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,480
It was They worked like dogs. I mean,

884
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,339
they really did for several days.

885
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,880
Harlan told me he'd never seen the lighthouse

886
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,640
in such bad condition. He'd been going out

887
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,714
there longer than me. And,

888
00:32:32,654 --> 00:32:34,734
so, you know, they're dedicated a bunch. You

889
00:32:34,734 --> 00:32:36,015
know, a lot of these guys are not

890
00:32:36,015 --> 00:32:37,634
young. I mean, Harlan's 70,

891
00:32:38,095 --> 00:32:39,855
and Rich is in his sixties. You're in

892
00:32:39,855 --> 00:32:42,035
your nineties. You? I'm in my nineties. Yeah.

893
00:32:42,940 --> 00:32:44,700
And certainly over there. Many of us here.

894
00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:47,200
But, we actually Well, you guys had younger

895
00:32:47,660 --> 00:32:50,140
younger volunteers. Well, we're, you know, we're getting

896
00:32:50,140 --> 00:32:52,940
younger volunteers, which is so important. Mhmm. And

897
00:32:52,940 --> 00:32:53,259
and,

898
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:56,059
we want them interested because we're gonna need

899
00:32:56,059 --> 00:32:57,900
to be replaced someday. And,

900
00:32:59,044 --> 00:33:00,964
we had actually and I've got a a

901
00:33:00,964 --> 00:33:03,444
big shout out to the Cal Lifelite people.

902
00:33:03,444 --> 00:33:06,085
There were three young men that wanted to

903
00:33:06,085 --> 00:33:07,605
go out there. We had a opportunity to

904
00:33:07,605 --> 00:33:09,384
take them out there for just the day,

905
00:33:09,605 --> 00:33:12,299
and they worked like slaves out there, all

906
00:33:12,299 --> 00:33:13,900
three of them. From Cal Oar. We wanna

907
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:15,660
get them in the radio here and talk

908
00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:17,180
about Cal Oar, the rest of you. Talk

909
00:33:17,180 --> 00:33:19,180
to Dan Bratton. He runs the whole Dan

910
00:33:19,180 --> 00:33:21,580
Bratton? Yep. Dan Bratton. Yeah. He he's helped

911
00:33:21,580 --> 00:33:23,500
us out over the years too. He's another

912
00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:25,274
good one. Okay. We'll get him on this

913
00:33:25,274 --> 00:33:27,115
too. Very much into the community. There you

914
00:33:27,115 --> 00:33:28,075
go. This one. This one.

915
00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:30,875
But, you know, those young guys, they couldn't

916
00:33:30,875 --> 00:33:32,154
wait to go out there, and they spent

917
00:33:32,154 --> 00:33:34,154
all day working. You know? We were shocked

918
00:33:34,154 --> 00:33:36,315
when people said, yeah. We this is Friday.

919
00:33:36,315 --> 00:33:38,174
People say, oh, we've been here since Sunday.

920
00:33:38,349 --> 00:33:39,990
Out on the out on the rock Yeah.

921
00:33:40,109 --> 00:33:40,429
Since

922
00:33:41,069 --> 00:33:43,230
and it was like, wow. So they went

923
00:33:43,230 --> 00:33:44,849
through that bad weather spat,

924
00:33:46,029 --> 00:33:48,349
and it was up rather high. Again, every

925
00:33:48,589 --> 00:33:50,129
how many levels are there?

926
00:33:51,634 --> 00:33:54,355
Caisson is down underneath the The caisson is

927
00:33:54,355 --> 00:33:55,954
70 feet above the water. The top of

928
00:33:55,954 --> 00:33:57,634
the caisson, which we call the catch tag

929
00:33:57,634 --> 00:34:00,434
for the water catch water Yeah. Is 70

930
00:34:00,434 --> 00:34:02,515
feet. And then you go another 74 feet

931
00:34:02,515 --> 00:34:03,174
to the,

932
00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:06,519
74 to 76 feet to be the focal

933
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:08,920
plane of the light, which is midway through

934
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,519
the lantern room. If you go all the

935
00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:11,800
way to the top of the dome, you're

936
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,199
over a 160 feet. That was cool at

937
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,315
the very, very top. Yeah. And you have

938
00:34:16,315 --> 00:34:19,255
replaced the original light, Frenzel lens with a

939
00:34:19,255 --> 00:34:20,855
much smaller one. We couldn't believe it was

940
00:34:20,855 --> 00:34:22,694
smaller. It was Yeah. It's a chemo edition.

941
00:34:22,694 --> 00:34:24,614
But it works in much the same way

942
00:34:24,614 --> 00:34:26,454
as the Fresnel lens does as far as

943
00:34:26,454 --> 00:34:27,815
the optics. And,

944
00:34:28,469 --> 00:34:30,150
that light will throw a light out as

945
00:34:30,150 --> 00:34:32,389
far as the big lens will. Oh, very

946
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:34,650
cool. Now when was it started again?

947
00:34:35,429 --> 00:34:37,829
Last week. Oh, it's so cool. The twenty

948
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:40,389
second. Yeah. Yeah. It was opportune. And I'm

949
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:41,994
not supposed to say this, but there was

950
00:34:41,994 --> 00:34:43,675
a movie being made out there. I'm not

951
00:34:43,675 --> 00:34:45,114
supposed to spill the beans, but I'm not

952
00:34:45,114 --> 00:34:46,094
gonna say who.

953
00:34:46,394 --> 00:34:48,074
There was a movie made out there. Which

954
00:34:48,074 --> 00:34:50,234
was so cool because, you know, we had

955
00:34:50,234 --> 00:34:51,295
to they had to

956
00:34:51,594 --> 00:34:53,914
rescreen something, so we had to scuttle back

957
00:34:53,914 --> 00:34:55,720
in. So we weren't in the Yeah. And

958
00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:58,760
everything They underwrited our our our week long.

959
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,500
The week,

960
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:01,880
the five days that they were there, they

961
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,820
underwrited their helicopter cost,

962
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:06,119
which made it possible for us to go

963
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:07,500
out and get some work done.

964
00:35:07,864 --> 00:35:09,944
So on the weekend, we were responsible for

965
00:35:09,944 --> 00:35:12,025
the helicopter that weekend, and the tourists covered

966
00:35:12,025 --> 00:35:14,184
that. How opportunity of a timing too because

967
00:35:14,184 --> 00:35:16,184
with all that mess out there that was

968
00:35:16,184 --> 00:35:18,824
caused by the storm, which was really cleaned

969
00:35:18,824 --> 00:35:20,184
up by the time we got there. So

970
00:35:20,184 --> 00:35:22,440
was it a And and when we we

971
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,360
saw so we got dropped off and then

972
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,380
the helicopter and Eric in the helicopter

973
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,599
put a sling. It's called a sling or

974
00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:31,079
something. Right? Sling basket. Sling basket. So it's

975
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:33,320
this basket, this big old metal thing with

976
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:33,820
all

977
00:35:34,394 --> 00:35:36,974
the the the All the crap from it.

978
00:35:37,035 --> 00:35:39,215
I mean, literally, the crap from it. Toilet

979
00:35:39,275 --> 00:35:40,815
or any garbage.

980
00:35:41,355 --> 00:35:43,114
We're not supposed to say that. Well, it

981
00:35:43,114 --> 00:35:45,035
has to be pulled out. It doesn't work

982
00:35:45,035 --> 00:35:46,635
with the water. This is clean. And it

983
00:35:46,635 --> 00:35:47,985
was all of the equipment Yeah. It was

984
00:35:47,985 --> 00:35:48,735
clean and

985
00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:50,789
I don't know how many slings we pulled

986
00:35:50,789 --> 00:35:52,230
in now. So we do bring out all

987
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:53,849
the propane, all the water,

988
00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:56,550
all the food, all the tools Exactly. Yeah.

989
00:35:56,710 --> 00:35:57,210
Generators,

990
00:35:58,150 --> 00:36:00,230
and then they bring back, we're still trying

991
00:36:00,230 --> 00:36:02,090
to clean out the building. I mean, it's

992
00:36:02,565 --> 00:36:04,025
when you get out there infrequently,

993
00:36:04,324 --> 00:36:05,385
you you you

994
00:36:05,684 --> 00:36:08,324
you don't ever get everything totally finished. Although

995
00:36:08,324 --> 00:36:10,724
we've gotten a lot further the last, two

996
00:36:10,724 --> 00:36:12,005
or three times we went out there. We've

997
00:36:12,005 --> 00:36:13,764
been starting to get some make some real

998
00:36:13,764 --> 00:36:14,264
headway.

999
00:36:14,809 --> 00:36:16,409
But our goal is to get out there

1000
00:36:16,409 --> 00:36:17,230
every quarter.

1001
00:36:18,889 --> 00:36:20,409
You wanna gotta remember the the when it

1002
00:36:20,409 --> 00:36:22,250
was in operation, you had you had three

1003
00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:24,090
keepers at least, and then in the early

1004
00:36:24,090 --> 00:36:25,230
days, four keepers

1005
00:36:25,609 --> 00:36:27,949
that constantly kept up the general maintenance.

1006
00:36:28,730 --> 00:36:30,784
You get out constantly. And if you get

1007
00:36:30,784 --> 00:36:32,565
out there every couple years, I mean,

1008
00:36:33,344 --> 00:36:34,944
you know, it's like giving someone on the

1009
00:36:34,944 --> 00:36:37,105
Titanic a pail and expecting to save the

1010
00:36:37,105 --> 00:36:38,864
ship. You know? It's just it doesn't really

1011
00:36:38,864 --> 00:36:41,025
work. It was overwhelming. But we're gonna do

1012
00:36:41,025 --> 00:36:42,625
it. There's no doubt in my mind that

1013
00:36:42,625 --> 00:36:44,380
we're gonna get it done. Like, the galley

1014
00:36:44,380 --> 00:36:45,980
would have been painted so many times, but

1015
00:36:45,980 --> 00:36:48,380
most, recently, what, by the the coast guard

1016
00:36:48,380 --> 00:36:49,440
back in the seventies.

1017
00:36:49,820 --> 00:36:52,139
It the paint was hanging thick. Yeah. And

1018
00:36:52,139 --> 00:36:54,699
and it's lead paint. So you gotta watch

1019
00:36:54,699 --> 00:36:57,434
everything you're you're doing there. Hazmat equipment, the

1020
00:36:57,434 --> 00:36:59,514
whole nine yards. And it's everything is covered.

1021
00:36:59,514 --> 00:37:00,014
Okay.

1022
00:37:00,315 --> 00:37:02,315
When I see pictures and posters, I always

1023
00:37:02,315 --> 00:37:04,554
see the the the tower, the lighthouse tower

1024
00:37:04,554 --> 00:37:06,795
itself. It's beautiful. And I see it in

1025
00:37:06,795 --> 00:37:09,469
paintings colored in all beautiful light, but it's

1026
00:37:09,469 --> 00:37:09,969
rusty

1027
00:37:10,269 --> 00:37:13,489
colored. It's it's it's rock and and rust.

1028
00:37:13,949 --> 00:37:15,949
And bricks and and and and what is

1029
00:37:15,949 --> 00:37:18,589
that? And granite. Granite? Yes. Granite's on the

1030
00:37:18,589 --> 00:37:20,750
outside. It's so amazing. And some of those,

1031
00:37:21,069 --> 00:37:23,469
blocks all fit together like a jigsaw as

1032
00:37:23,469 --> 00:37:25,565
a Richard. How big are some of those

1033
00:37:25,565 --> 00:37:26,065
rocks?

1034
00:37:26,684 --> 00:37:28,924
The the big ones are over 17 tons,

1035
00:37:28,924 --> 00:37:30,284
and the smaller ones are two and a

1036
00:37:30,284 --> 00:37:32,924
half. I mean, what? The pyramid was built

1037
00:37:32,924 --> 00:37:33,424
on

1038
00:37:33,804 --> 00:37:36,605
two to five ton rocks, but this the

1039
00:37:36,605 --> 00:37:37,984
biggest one was 17?

1040
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,480
Oh my goodness. So the the lighthouse had

1041
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,360
had, past tense, a boom. Is it called

1042
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,519
a boom? 90 foot boom that stuck out,

1043
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:47,579
horizontally

1044
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,360
over the water. And that's how they kind

1045
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,960
of landed the ships. Right? That was the

1046
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,019
conveyance. Yeah.

1047
00:37:53,414 --> 00:37:55,015
They, at 90 mile

1048
00:37:55,574 --> 00:37:57,255
originally, they had a 60 foot boom. Later

1049
00:37:57,255 --> 00:37:58,554
on, it was 90 feet.

1050
00:37:59,335 --> 00:38:01,035
That was the bare minimum

1051
00:38:01,974 --> 00:38:04,054
as far as distance from the lighthouse because

1052
00:38:04,054 --> 00:38:05,494
you get a you get a surge going

1053
00:38:05,494 --> 00:38:06,875
in and out with these weights.

1054
00:38:07,255 --> 00:38:10,059
Amazing. And, you have to time all this

1055
00:38:10,059 --> 00:38:10,460
stuff.

1056
00:38:11,019 --> 00:38:13,019
One time, John Gibbons here, again, the same

1057
00:38:13,019 --> 00:38:15,119
keeper that I interview that I was telling

1058
00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:17,179
you this morning or today that I would

1059
00:38:17,179 --> 00:38:17,920
talk to.

1060
00:38:18,539 --> 00:38:20,539
And he was 18 years old and, he

1061
00:38:20,539 --> 00:38:20,860
was,

1062
00:38:21,659 --> 00:38:24,515
unhooking the boom from the the the boom

1063
00:38:24,515 --> 00:38:26,994
hook from the from the the boat that

1064
00:38:26,994 --> 00:38:29,394
the Locksley was in, take off, and,

1065
00:38:29,875 --> 00:38:31,235
the boat went out from under him, and

1066
00:38:31,235 --> 00:38:33,315
he was just hanging there. Oh. And, there

1067
00:38:33,315 --> 00:38:34,914
was a surge, and the boat had to

1068
00:38:34,914 --> 00:38:36,515
go back out and and wait a while

1069
00:38:36,515 --> 00:38:38,035
until the surge was over with him then

1070
00:38:38,035 --> 00:38:39,501
go back in and get him. And he

1071
00:38:39,501 --> 00:38:41,597
was hanging there the whole time. He wasn't

1072
00:38:41,597 --> 00:38:43,692
sure he was gonna be all that. Oh

1073
00:38:43,692 --> 00:38:45,787
my god. Like, how long enough? Yeah. My

1074
00:38:45,787 --> 00:38:47,882
goodness. Okay. So it is a massive structure.

1075
00:38:47,882 --> 00:38:50,239
It is above the waves. The sea level,

1076
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,335
just the caisson or the base of it.

1077
00:38:53,454 --> 00:38:55,214
The first thing we got off, we noticed,

1078
00:38:55,214 --> 00:38:56,734
of course, the color of it. It's like,

1079
00:38:56,734 --> 00:38:58,974
wow, that really looks like it battered and

1080
00:38:58,974 --> 00:39:01,714
rusted and it just had this whole antique

1081
00:39:03,054 --> 00:39:05,054
look to it. But then the smell of

1082
00:39:05,054 --> 00:39:07,320
the sea lions, people don't realize there's a

1083
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,880
huge colony of sea lions. Are they stellar

1084
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,019
sea lions? Yep.

1085
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,224
Underneath them, when we first got there They

1086
00:39:13,224 --> 00:39:15,079
see the California sea lions. The California sea

1087
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:17,880
lions. Okay. Big populations of them. And they

1088
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,180
have little nurseries,

1089
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,945
pools for the babies. It was so amazing

1090
00:39:21,945 --> 00:39:23,864
looking down. But the smell when we got

1091
00:39:23,864 --> 00:39:25,625
there was bad, but then it came out

1092
00:39:25,625 --> 00:39:27,785
and when it changed, it was perfect. And

1093
00:39:27,785 --> 00:39:30,025
we were able to just enjoy these seals.

1094
00:39:30,025 --> 00:39:31,644
But I also was told,

1095
00:39:32,025 --> 00:39:33,724
you don't want to go in that water

1096
00:39:33,864 --> 00:39:35,085
because those seals

1097
00:39:35,660 --> 00:39:37,739
will look at you like a good morsel

1098
00:39:37,739 --> 00:39:39,599
of food. Yeah. Munch, munch, munch.

1099
00:39:39,980 --> 00:39:41,739
Yeah. Munch, munch. And if they don't get

1100
00:39:41,739 --> 00:39:43,900
it, we just missed it. There had been

1101
00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:45,660
a bunch of, well, the the there there

1102
00:39:45,660 --> 00:39:47,820
were actors and the the film crew out

1103
00:39:47,820 --> 00:39:50,085
there. And by the way, one of them

1104
00:39:50,085 --> 00:39:51,844
was dressed up. It looked like a zombie.

1105
00:39:51,844 --> 00:39:53,605
Right? But I'm not saying anything. I can't.

1106
00:39:53,605 --> 00:39:55,765
I'm sorry. Okay. So anyway, what we saw

1107
00:39:55,844 --> 00:39:58,324
what what what we were told by our

1108
00:39:58,324 --> 00:39:59,864
tour guide is when the orcas

1109
00:40:00,804 --> 00:40:02,664
swim out there, then all of a sudden,

1110
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,639
all these sealants Mad dash roads. Mad dash

1111
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:07,880
to the rock because they don't wanna be

1112
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,960
food either. So They were there just before

1113
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,199
we got Yeah. We arrived. So And and

1114
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:13,800
they they were saying, Doug, the couple of

1115
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,039
days before, the orcas were actually there. They

1116
00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:17,420
were hunting in packs

1117
00:40:18,074 --> 00:40:19,135
and they were circling

1118
00:40:19,994 --> 00:40:22,155
around. So that was It's like a brunch

1119
00:40:22,155 --> 00:40:22,655
counter.

1120
00:40:23,275 --> 00:40:25,295
Yeah. You have mortgage support.

1121
00:40:25,835 --> 00:40:27,675
Yeah. Right. I guess so. Right? All you

1122
00:40:27,675 --> 00:40:30,155
can eat. Yes. It's it's So many still,

1123
00:40:30,155 --> 00:40:32,974
so little time. You know? Yeah. It was

1124
00:40:33,195 --> 00:40:35,989
really a trippy experience and,

1125
00:40:36,930 --> 00:40:39,010
yeah, I did get winded walking up. I

1126
00:40:39,010 --> 00:40:40,849
was the last one walking up those stairs.

1127
00:40:40,849 --> 00:40:43,010
But That's true. Yeah. And they were steep

1128
00:40:43,010 --> 00:40:46,789
and each step is its own rock or

1129
00:40:47,175 --> 00:40:49,574
or Yeah. All that's been carved and fitted

1130
00:40:49,574 --> 00:40:50,954
in. I mean, it's really

1131
00:40:52,775 --> 00:40:54,295
how anyone can go out and look at

1132
00:40:54,295 --> 00:40:56,074
something like that and not be absolutely

1133
00:40:56,375 --> 00:40:56,875
amazed.

1134
00:40:57,175 --> 00:40:57,974
Right. I mean

1135
00:40:59,094 --> 00:41:01,530
And, and I ask about that, all those,

1136
00:41:01,530 --> 00:41:04,170
how many steps? 92 or 95, I think.

1137
00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:06,250
I Yeah. 95 steps. Think after all this

1138
00:41:06,250 --> 00:41:08,329
time, I'd remember, but I don't. Yeah. We

1139
00:41:08,329 --> 00:41:10,010
tried to count, but then we got lost

1140
00:41:10,010 --> 00:41:11,849
in looking at something. Then you got more

1141
00:41:11,849 --> 00:41:13,369
going down the schedule. It was like going

1142
00:41:13,369 --> 00:41:15,405
down the up and down the parapets, to

1143
00:41:15,405 --> 00:41:17,324
the the towers of the castles in Germany.

1144
00:41:17,324 --> 00:41:19,644
In Germany. Yeah. It's just exactly. But they're

1145
00:41:19,644 --> 00:41:22,545
all fitted together like They're fitted together. And

1146
00:41:22,844 --> 00:41:24,445
in Germany, when we go up to the,

1147
00:41:24,445 --> 00:41:26,525
you know, the towers of The Parapets. Gabriel

1148
00:41:26,525 --> 00:41:29,099
Tower. So they got smaller and smaller, but

1149
00:41:29,099 --> 00:41:31,500
these don't. No. They're the exact same size

1150
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:33,099
from the bottom to the top. That's right.

1151
00:41:33,099 --> 00:41:35,099
They were smaller. Yeah. Just the the wall

1152
00:41:35,099 --> 00:41:37,739
thickness. How tall is the, the tower of

1153
00:41:37,739 --> 00:41:40,380
the lighthouse? Well, the tower itself is 74

1154
00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:42,505
feet. And then it's up 70 feet from

1155
00:41:42,505 --> 00:41:45,144
that. Yep. So a 140,

1156
00:41:45,465 --> 00:41:47,625
Say forty, one forty six. Okay. And then

1157
00:41:47,625 --> 00:41:49,864
top of the dome, one forty one about

1158
00:41:49,864 --> 00:41:52,525
one sixty. Okay. Way up there. And, again,

1159
00:41:52,664 --> 00:41:55,244
what happened on a great storm of nineteen

1160
00:41:55,465 --> 00:41:58,650
fifty? '2. What happened in that storm? Waves

1161
00:41:58,650 --> 00:41:59,550
over the top.

1162
00:41:59,929 --> 00:42:00,429
Waves

1163
00:42:00,889 --> 00:42:03,929
over the top of the tower. What happened

1164
00:42:03,929 --> 00:42:04,650
with the waves?

1165
00:42:05,690 --> 00:42:09,230
Knocked lantern panes out and, flooded the interior.

1166
00:42:09,369 --> 00:42:11,070
Water was running down like a waterfall

1167
00:42:11,585 --> 00:42:13,344
all the way down the engine room. Couldn't

1168
00:42:13,505 --> 00:42:15,125
All buildings shaking shaking.

1169
00:42:15,744 --> 00:42:18,224
Oh. Yeah. Wow. I mean, folks, can you

1170
00:42:18,224 --> 00:42:19,984
imagine you could see how tall that thing

1171
00:42:19,984 --> 00:42:22,065
is when you sit on the shore. The

1172
00:42:22,065 --> 00:42:25,829
shore. Exactly. But imagine waves going over the

1173
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:27,910
top of that, breaking out the land. Yeah.

1174
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:29,910
Yeah. And then when we looked at when

1175
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:31,750
we had the tour, we also had a

1176
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:32,890
so called slideshow,

1177
00:42:33,269 --> 00:42:35,190
except for you guys don't have slides. You

1178
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:35,690
have,

1179
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:38,355
saran wrap. No. No. No. What is that

1180
00:42:38,355 --> 00:42:40,675
called? The the wrap papers, the big posters?

1181
00:42:40,675 --> 00:42:42,514
Yeah. There was no oh, yeah. Yeah. They're

1182
00:42:42,514 --> 00:42:44,914
not saran wrap. They're shrink not shrink wrapped.

1183
00:42:44,914 --> 00:42:46,614
They're they're laminated. Laminated

1184
00:42:46,994 --> 00:42:49,715
pictures. Huge. But then so some original still

1185
00:42:49,715 --> 00:42:52,320
people show off their bed. It was, like,

1186
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,780
put in the wall and

1187
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,199
but even from the construction still, it's it's

1188
00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:58,099
pretty amazing.

1189
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,219
It was,

1190
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,160
once in a lifetime opportunity. Thank you, John,

1191
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,320
for really, I mean Well, thank you for

1192
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,160
going. I mean, you you all both of

1193
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,545
you have been so good about having me

1194
00:43:07,545 --> 00:43:09,724
on and promoting the our project,

1195
00:43:10,425 --> 00:43:13,244
which, is extremely important for public awareness.

1196
00:43:14,025 --> 00:43:14,525
But

1197
00:43:15,945 --> 00:43:18,025
seeing it is a lot different than talking

1198
00:43:18,025 --> 00:43:19,960
about it. Yeah. You know, you can read

1199
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,960
every book on the planet Earth about that

1200
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:22,460
lighthouse.

1201
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,099
And until you actually go out there

1202
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,440
Right. It says,

1203
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,480
it's well, how how do you describe it?

1204
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:30,140
You can't.

1205
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:30,920
And,

1206
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,000
it doesn't get old. I think And you

1207
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,994
did have two tours on, this Friday and

1208
00:43:36,394 --> 00:43:38,394
Saturday and Sunday. Saturday and Sunday. It was

1209
00:43:38,394 --> 00:43:40,155
raining those days. Yeah. And even though it

1210
00:43:40,155 --> 00:43:42,235
was raining. Yeah. It wasn't bad. It wasn't

1211
00:43:42,235 --> 00:43:43,675
bad. Because you told me it's not the

1212
00:43:43,675 --> 00:43:44,875
rain. What do you by the way? Fog

1213
00:43:44,875 --> 00:43:46,894
and wind. Fog and wind for the helipads.

1214
00:43:46,954 --> 00:43:49,300
Right. So how do people how could people

1215
00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:50,900
get a hold of that? How if they

1216
00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:53,139
wanna get out of there out there, not

1217
00:43:53,139 --> 00:43:55,139
there? Well, we have a,

1218
00:43:55,780 --> 00:43:57,780
a number that you can call, which is

1219
00:43:57,780 --> 00:43:58,920
707,

1220
00:43:59,460 --> 00:43:59,960
2

1221
00:44:01,755 --> 00:44:03,434
273-1905

1222
00:44:03,755 --> 00:44:06,255
Okay. To ask questions. Say it again.

1223
00:44:06,875 --> 00:44:07,914
707,

1224
00:44:08,315 --> 00:44:10,494
273-1905.

1225
00:44:11,114 --> 00:44:11,614
K.

1226
00:44:12,074 --> 00:44:13,694
And then you have the,

1227
00:44:14,730 --> 00:44:16,510
our website, which is,

1228
00:44:17,210 --> 00:44:17,710
under,

1229
00:44:19,130 --> 00:44:21,050
Saint, and it's spelled out s a I

1230
00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:21,789
n t,

1231
00:44:22,170 --> 00:44:25,289
George, g e o r g e, Reef,

1232
00:44:25,289 --> 00:44:26,670
r e e f,

1233
00:44:27,094 --> 00:44:29,255
light, l I g h t, at g

1234
00:44:29,255 --> 00:44:31,335
mail dot com. And it's all one word

1235
00:44:31,335 --> 00:44:33,815
on a lowercase. That's the email. That's the

1236
00:44:33,815 --> 00:44:34,954
email. And

1237
00:44:35,255 --> 00:44:37,494
and you got, the the same thing except

1238
00:44:37,494 --> 00:44:39,734
it's dot org for the website. Thank you.

1239
00:44:39,734 --> 00:44:40,234
Okay.

1240
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,960
And, then our Facebook page, we we it's

1241
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,760
under Saint George Reeves Lighthouse Preservation Society. They

1242
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:46,420
can get,

1243
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,119
the latest going on with that. And how

1244
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:51,519
does how does Harlan it's Harlan Watkins? Harlan

1245
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:53,440
Watkins. Yes. W a t k I n

1246
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:54,914
s. I gotta thank him. Yeah.

1247
00:44:55,394 --> 00:44:57,635
And and Richard Hoff too. Okay. So it's

1248
00:44:57,635 --> 00:44:58,515
(707)

1249
00:44:58,515 --> 00:45:00,515
273-1905

1250
00:45:00,515 --> 00:45:02,275
if you want to find out more about

1251
00:45:02,275 --> 00:45:04,195
it. Tell us about the future. What is

1252
00:45:04,195 --> 00:45:05,655
the plan for the future?

1253
00:45:06,675 --> 00:45:08,855
Boy, it's gonna take some money to really

1254
00:45:09,074 --> 00:45:12,380
return this this beautiful lady to her

1255
00:45:12,679 --> 00:45:13,820
her regal

1256
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,339
beginnings. Well, we we we consulted,

1257
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,380
with a, a firm that specializes

1258
00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:21,980
in lighthouse restoration.

1259
00:45:23,054 --> 00:45:23,554
What?

1260
00:45:23,855 --> 00:45:24,594
There's some

1261
00:45:25,295 --> 00:45:28,255
It's called ICC Commonwealth. They, do a lot

1262
00:45:28,255 --> 00:45:28,574
of,

1263
00:45:29,295 --> 00:45:29,795
restorations

1264
00:45:30,175 --> 00:45:32,514
all over the country. And they came out

1265
00:45:32,894 --> 00:45:34,255
two years ago, and they did a,

1266
00:45:35,614 --> 00:45:38,434
an assessment of our project. Yeah. We wanted

1267
00:45:38,655 --> 00:45:39,910
to have have somebody that was in the

1268
00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:42,550
business that would give us a blueprint forward

1269
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:43,510
in in order to,

1270
00:45:44,869 --> 00:45:47,269
utilize the funds, well and and,

1271
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:49,289
and and to prioritize

1272
00:45:49,590 --> 00:45:50,250
the projects.

1273
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:53,269
They came up with a a $10,000,000

1274
00:45:53,269 --> 00:45:53,769
figure.

1275
00:45:54,965 --> 00:45:57,525
We figured that if we doubled that, that

1276
00:45:57,525 --> 00:45:59,065
would be enough money

1277
00:45:59,525 --> 00:46:00,905
to account for anything

1278
00:46:01,284 --> 00:46:03,605
that we haven't thought about or they haven't

1279
00:46:03,605 --> 00:46:04,344
thought about.

1280
00:46:04,804 --> 00:46:07,650
And like any other major project like that,

1281
00:46:08,929 --> 00:46:11,089
redoing it or restoring it is part of

1282
00:46:11,089 --> 00:46:11,329
this,

1283
00:46:11,889 --> 00:46:14,449
the, challenge, but it's also maintaining what you

1284
00:46:14,449 --> 00:46:14,949
got.

1285
00:46:15,329 --> 00:46:18,049
And out there, you cannot leave it just

1286
00:46:18,049 --> 00:46:20,529
alone. You have to keep maintaining it. Oh

1287
00:46:20,529 --> 00:46:21,255
my god.

1288
00:46:21,734 --> 00:46:22,234
So,

1289
00:46:22,934 --> 00:46:24,634
it's doable. There are other lighthouses.

1290
00:46:25,094 --> 00:46:27,114
Pigeon Point, South of San Francisco,

1291
00:46:27,654 --> 00:46:29,734
got a 16 and a half million dollar

1292
00:46:29,734 --> 00:46:32,054
grant to work on their lighthouse, and and,

1293
00:46:32,775 --> 00:46:33,674
ours is

1294
00:46:35,710 --> 00:46:38,289
much more heavily built than that one is.

1295
00:46:38,910 --> 00:46:39,410
So,

1296
00:46:41,550 --> 00:46:42,530
we we have

1297
00:46:43,309 --> 00:46:45,309
ICC Conwell. In fact, I talked to one

1298
00:46:45,309 --> 00:46:45,970
of the

1299
00:46:46,934 --> 00:46:49,515
consultants today. He, I sent him a picture

1300
00:46:49,655 --> 00:46:52,635
of the lighthouse video that I sent you,

1301
00:46:52,855 --> 00:46:54,614
and, he called me up and we had

1302
00:46:54,614 --> 00:46:56,474
a chat. And then one of the other,

1303
00:46:57,655 --> 00:46:59,815
gentlemen that worked for ICC that has his

1304
00:46:59,815 --> 00:47:01,515
own consulting business now,

1305
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,000
he is interested in, getting involved as well.

1306
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,619
There's plenty of work to go around.

1307
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,960
So, And you can always use volunteers? Yeah.

1308
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,440
We we always can use volunteers shoreside and

1309
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:13,340
out at the lighthouse.

1310
00:47:14,594 --> 00:47:16,855
We, you know, we have a we're constantly

1311
00:47:16,914 --> 00:47:17,974
working on our,

1312
00:47:18,994 --> 00:47:19,494
our,

1313
00:47:22,034 --> 00:47:22,355
on,

1314
00:47:22,835 --> 00:47:24,295
what's the word I wanna use?

1315
00:47:24,675 --> 00:47:25,650
Use another one.

1316
00:47:28,130 --> 00:47:29,730
Our Recruitment training.

1317
00:47:30,130 --> 00:47:32,769
Our our presence on the Internet. I see.

1318
00:47:32,769 --> 00:47:35,329
Oh, online presence on the Internet. Media outlets.

1319
00:47:35,329 --> 00:47:36,849
Yeah. Yeah. We we we you know, the

1320
00:47:36,929 --> 00:47:38,150
what I'm doing here,

1321
00:47:38,769 --> 00:47:40,609
is part of it, but also we have

1322
00:47:40,609 --> 00:47:40,994
the,

1323
00:47:41,715 --> 00:47:43,655
the Facebook page, Instagram.

1324
00:47:45,795 --> 00:47:47,795
I I'm I I I'm I'm the editor

1325
00:47:47,795 --> 00:47:49,474
of the newsletter. We can always use help

1326
00:47:49,474 --> 00:47:51,735
with that. I'm I'm putting together stories,

1327
00:47:52,515 --> 00:47:54,055
giving a lighthouse lectures

1328
00:47:55,469 --> 00:47:57,710
Shoreside. And And you gave one that trial.

1329
00:47:57,710 --> 00:47:59,469
We we enjoyed that one at Christmas Hill

1330
00:47:59,469 --> 00:48:01,070
last year. You've had more of those? There's

1331
00:48:01,070 --> 00:48:02,510
lots to do. Well, I haven't talked to

1332
00:48:02,510 --> 00:48:04,190
them. You know, they're closed this winter, but

1333
00:48:04,190 --> 00:48:05,710
but I suspect they want me to come

1334
00:48:05,710 --> 00:48:07,389
out there again. But there's a lot of

1335
00:48:07,389 --> 00:48:09,070
different things to do. They'll they'll go into

1336
00:48:09,070 --> 00:48:10,449
the Elk's Club or the,

1337
00:48:11,545 --> 00:48:12,605
some of the Rotary

1338
00:48:12,985 --> 00:48:14,285
Club groups or whatever.

1339
00:48:15,385 --> 00:48:17,704
We have articles we write. We have as

1340
00:48:17,704 --> 00:48:19,465
you know, the two of you traveled with,

1341
00:48:20,265 --> 00:48:22,684
Haley Branson Potts, who was a Yeah. Representative

1342
00:48:22,824 --> 00:48:24,596
of the LA Times. Who were there? She

1343
00:48:24,596 --> 00:48:25,414
wrote a beautiful article for us. And she

1344
00:48:26,679 --> 00:48:28,920
spent the night. She LA LA Times reporter.

1345
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,360
Yeah. And she spent the night, and she's

1346
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,880
gonna write a or she should be coming

1347
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:32,619
out tomorrow

1348
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,320
Oh my god. On the Lighthouse. So LA

1349
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,800
Times. So, you know, all of that, there's

1350
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,739
you don't have to be

1351
00:48:40,175 --> 00:48:42,894
good at at at working on restoration work

1352
00:48:42,894 --> 00:48:45,135
out there or repairs. There's plenty of other

1353
00:48:45,135 --> 00:48:46,114
things to do.

1354
00:48:46,414 --> 00:48:48,014
There's this we have a big tent. We

1355
00:48:48,014 --> 00:48:49,474
got lots of room for everybody.

1356
00:48:49,934 --> 00:48:51,074
Where's the big tent?

1357
00:48:52,190 --> 00:48:53,570
I talked figuratively.

1358
00:48:54,110 --> 00:48:56,430
Oh, okay. Gotcha. I'm just gonna say, wow.

1359
00:48:56,430 --> 00:48:58,269
Is there a purpose animals in there too?

1360
00:48:58,269 --> 00:49:00,050
If people want to start volunteering,

1361
00:49:00,349 --> 00:49:02,269
do they go to either of those sites?

1362
00:49:02,269 --> 00:49:04,030
Can they call or go to TikTok or

1363
00:49:04,030 --> 00:49:04,530
wherever?

1364
00:49:04,885 --> 00:49:06,565
And then they there is a little The

1365
00:49:06,565 --> 00:49:08,505
707 number, you can

1366
00:49:09,125 --> 00:49:11,605
contact us on the Gmail address. You can,

1367
00:49:12,244 --> 00:49:13,385
reach out on Facebook.

1368
00:49:13,845 --> 00:49:16,005
We monitor all that stuff. So You got

1369
00:49:16,005 --> 00:49:18,769
a Facebook president under John Zimmerman too? Yes

1370
00:49:18,769 --> 00:49:20,210
or no? I I do. But I we

1371
00:49:20,210 --> 00:49:21,570
also have the St. George's View of Loud

1372
00:49:21,570 --> 00:49:23,889
House Preservation Society. I think I'm your friend

1373
00:49:23,889 --> 00:49:26,130
on that. I think you are. Yeah. Darren,

1374
00:49:26,130 --> 00:49:27,409
we're friends. At least I hope you are.

1375
00:49:27,409 --> 00:49:29,089
We're friends. Are you are we friends? Yeah.

1376
00:49:29,089 --> 00:49:32,050
We're friends. So so, you know, there's a

1377
00:49:32,050 --> 00:49:34,285
number of different ways to, to get a

1378
00:49:34,285 --> 00:49:35,025
hold of us.

1379
00:49:36,045 --> 00:49:38,945
And we are always interested in people to

1380
00:49:39,244 --> 00:49:41,565
get involved. Nations too, I'm sure. Right? And

1381
00:49:41,565 --> 00:49:43,005
the young people. In fact, I'd like to

1382
00:49:43,005 --> 00:49:44,704
give a shout out, to,

1383
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,360
here again, the the,

1384
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:47,880
fellows over at the,

1385
00:49:48,599 --> 00:49:50,519
Cal Life Flight, a fellow by the name

1386
00:49:50,519 --> 00:49:52,760
of Robert Smith that drove all the way

1387
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,000
down from Bandon, Oregon. Oh, yes. Right. We

1388
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,239
met him. He a tall drink of water.

1389
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,019
25 years old. Yeah. Yep.

1390
00:49:59,480 --> 00:49:59,980
He

1391
00:50:01,144 --> 00:50:02,905
he was, to go out on one of

1392
00:50:02,905 --> 00:50:04,525
our tours that got canceled.

1393
00:50:05,464 --> 00:50:08,264
And, we called his employer who bought the

1394
00:50:08,264 --> 00:50:10,105
ticket for him, but he never heard about

1395
00:50:10,105 --> 00:50:11,545
it. So drove all the way down to

1396
00:50:11,545 --> 00:50:12,764
go out to the lighthouse,

1397
00:50:13,380 --> 00:50:15,380
the tourist council. I felt so bad about

1398
00:50:15,380 --> 00:50:16,659
it. I said, hey. How would you like

1399
00:50:16,659 --> 00:50:17,559
to be a volunteer?

1400
00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:20,099
He said, you bet. So I said, the

1401
00:50:20,099 --> 00:50:21,779
next time we fly out there, I will

1402
00:50:21,779 --> 00:50:23,460
call you and you'll be invited out on

1403
00:50:23,460 --> 00:50:24,279
the work crew.

1404
00:50:24,659 --> 00:50:24,980
And,

1405
00:50:25,505 --> 00:50:27,184
he's coming to the board meeting next week.

1406
00:50:27,184 --> 00:50:29,184
He really he loved it. He had been

1407
00:50:29,184 --> 00:50:30,945
there, he had been out there, I think,

1408
00:50:30,945 --> 00:50:32,945
since Sunday. So he's been out five days

1409
00:50:32,945 --> 00:50:34,704
when we saw him. Yeah. And he was

1410
00:50:34,945 --> 00:50:37,744
you know what? It's it's it's obviously cold

1411
00:50:37,744 --> 00:50:39,425
out there. There were cots out there. There

1412
00:50:39,425 --> 00:50:40,485
was kind of primitive,

1413
00:50:41,699 --> 00:50:42,840
it it's still

1414
00:50:43,460 --> 00:50:46,500
you guys are hanging on for, an absolute

1415
00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:47,960
treasure, a national treasure.

1416
00:50:48,340 --> 00:50:50,579
And at least and we know. Everybody knows

1417
00:50:50,579 --> 00:50:52,679
that lives near the ocean like we do,

1418
00:50:52,835 --> 00:50:55,074
how much maintenance it takes. And if you're

1419
00:50:55,074 --> 00:50:55,894
out there

1420
00:50:56,275 --> 00:50:58,614
getting pounded by the big waves,

1421
00:50:59,154 --> 00:50:59,654
constant.

1422
00:51:00,355 --> 00:51:02,614
Right? I mean, it's just a huge undertaking.

1423
00:51:02,914 --> 00:51:04,755
You you may be getting a big grant.

1424
00:51:04,755 --> 00:51:07,014
Hopefully, you do in the near future. That's

1425
00:51:07,380 --> 00:51:10,019
that is necessary and needed. Well, the gentleman

1426
00:51:10,019 --> 00:51:12,179
you know is helping us out, with the

1427
00:51:12,179 --> 00:51:15,139
with the grants. Mhmm. And, By far. Yeah.

1428
00:51:15,139 --> 00:51:17,079
We're working on, several others.

1429
00:51:17,539 --> 00:51:19,539
Nick Grill, who you mentioned earlier, he's been

1430
00:51:19,539 --> 00:51:21,699
a supporter, which we appreciate, and he's been

1431
00:51:21,905 --> 00:51:23,344
and his brother came out to the lighthouse

1432
00:51:23,344 --> 00:51:25,264
a couple years ago. Really? How cool is

1433
00:51:25,264 --> 00:51:26,085
that? Well,

1434
00:51:26,864 --> 00:51:28,484
this this, helicopter,

1435
00:51:28,784 --> 00:51:30,385
are they're all pretty small like that that

1436
00:51:30,385 --> 00:51:31,585
fly out there? I can't take a big

1437
00:51:31,585 --> 00:51:33,984
copier because we did once a Huey. It

1438
00:51:33,984 --> 00:51:36,464
was a twin engine job, but, they are

1439
00:51:36,464 --> 00:51:37,739
about $3,000

1440
00:51:37,739 --> 00:51:40,800
an hour. Woah. Oh my goodness. And,

1441
00:51:41,340 --> 00:51:44,380
we used them, back in 2023. We had

1442
00:51:44,380 --> 00:51:45,340
a 121

1443
00:51:45,340 --> 00:51:47,820
people going out, and our bill for four

1444
00:51:47,820 --> 00:51:50,300
days is almost $35,000.

1445
00:51:50,300 --> 00:51:50,800
Wow.

1446
00:51:51,425 --> 00:51:53,744
And you were charging $3.95 to get people

1447
00:51:53,744 --> 00:51:54,405
out there,

1448
00:51:55,025 --> 00:51:56,945
if they and you were sold out. Right?

1449
00:51:56,945 --> 00:51:58,885
Yeah. Yeah. We we sell out usually

1450
00:51:59,264 --> 00:52:00,164
fairly quickly.

1451
00:52:01,425 --> 00:52:03,984
When is the next one planned? October. Store

1452
00:52:03,984 --> 00:52:06,005
in October? Yeah. The, gentleman,

1453
00:52:07,110 --> 00:52:10,329
Eric and his wife, Houston Yeah. Houston are,

1454
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:12,650
they'll be available in October.

1455
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:14,630
We may get a summer session in, but

1456
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:15,590
I'm I'm not,

1457
00:52:16,390 --> 00:52:19,050
I'm not counting on that because we we

1458
00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:20,809
wanna have enough funds

1459
00:52:21,224 --> 00:52:23,545
in the bank before we do this. In

1460
00:52:23,545 --> 00:52:26,364
the past, we demanded strictly on the,

1461
00:52:28,184 --> 00:52:31,144
on the, ticket sales. And if, the weather

1462
00:52:31,144 --> 00:52:32,765
goes south on us or whatever

1463
00:52:33,159 --> 00:52:33,960
and we,

1464
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,440
we have to the helicopter has come down

1465
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,219
from whatever point it is

1466
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:39,880
and it has to go back and they

1467
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,199
don't carry us to go paying passenger, we're

1468
00:52:42,199 --> 00:52:44,219
usually out 5 or $6,000.

1469
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,440
So, you know, it's it's a bit of

1470
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,860
a gamble. So we have to have funds.

1471
00:52:49,344 --> 00:52:51,285
Right. Now there are boats

1472
00:52:51,664 --> 00:52:55,045
or cruises that go close to it. Right.

1473
00:52:55,425 --> 00:52:57,925
So that's another option to see the lighthouse

1474
00:52:58,144 --> 00:53:00,785
a little closer. But it is unbelievable when

1475
00:53:00,785 --> 00:53:03,099
you come from the air looking down. Oh

1476
00:53:03,099 --> 00:53:05,359
my gosh. Yep. Yeah. That's truly

1477
00:53:05,900 --> 00:53:06,400
is

1478
00:53:06,699 --> 00:53:07,199
absolutely

1479
00:53:07,579 --> 00:53:09,820
I have never had one person, not one

1480
00:53:09,820 --> 00:53:11,039
since I've been involved,

1481
00:53:11,820 --> 00:53:13,980
that ever came back and said, I wish

1482
00:53:13,980 --> 00:53:15,739
I'd never bought the ticket. It wasn't worth

1483
00:53:15,739 --> 00:53:18,275
it. Not one. Yeah. Not one. Every every

1484
00:53:18,275 --> 00:53:20,034
last one of them was glad they went

1485
00:53:20,034 --> 00:53:20,534
out.

1486
00:53:20,914 --> 00:53:21,234
They,

1487
00:53:21,795 --> 00:53:24,034
they are very supportive of our project. Some

1488
00:53:24,034 --> 00:53:25,974
have even given us additional donations.

1489
00:53:26,674 --> 00:53:28,674
Others have signed up to to want to,

1490
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:30,170
get involved.

1491
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:32,230
We have several people who are afraid to

1492
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:34,789
fly. They still wanna be involved with Shoreside

1493
00:53:34,789 --> 00:53:36,550
to help us out. Right. And it's not

1494
00:53:36,550 --> 00:53:38,230
really we talk a lot about money. It's

1495
00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:41,109
not a money making business. It's No. There's

1496
00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:43,375
no to keep it. Yeah. To keep the

1497
00:53:43,375 --> 00:53:45,855
Saint George Reef Lighthouse going. Right? Yeah. This

1498
00:53:45,855 --> 00:53:47,934
is a labor love for all the board

1499
00:53:47,934 --> 00:53:49,135
and and and and,

1500
00:53:49,535 --> 00:53:50,675
volunteers. There's

1501
00:53:51,055 --> 00:53:53,055
there's there's no profit in this at all.

1502
00:53:53,055 --> 00:53:53,795
Right. None.

1503
00:53:54,095 --> 00:53:56,835
Well, you you got a noble and wonderful

1504
00:53:57,055 --> 00:54:00,789
organization, the St. George Reef Lighthouse Preservation Society.

1505
00:54:01,410 --> 00:54:03,349
Good luck on all future,

1506
00:54:03,809 --> 00:54:04,309
endeavors.

1507
00:54:04,769 --> 00:54:06,449
We are there to support you. As you

1508
00:54:06,449 --> 00:54:08,929
know, we're here. We will always be your

1509
00:54:08,929 --> 00:54:09,429
your,

1510
00:54:10,130 --> 00:54:11,829
Advocates. Yeah. Advocates.

1511
00:54:12,305 --> 00:54:14,545
And always, keep us abreast of what's going

1512
00:54:14,545 --> 00:54:15,045
on

1513
00:54:15,425 --> 00:54:17,184
and good luck with it. I hope the

1514
00:54:17,184 --> 00:54:17,585
best,

1515
00:54:18,065 --> 00:54:19,664
some of these big grants are coming your

1516
00:54:19,664 --> 00:54:21,925
way. It has to be. It's such a

1517
00:54:22,144 --> 00:54:22,644
just

1518
00:54:23,025 --> 00:54:25,684
momentous thing. It's an incredible iconic

1519
00:54:26,780 --> 00:54:29,179
it's like having, the Statue Of Liberty in

1520
00:54:29,179 --> 00:54:31,099
our own backyard every time I look out

1521
00:54:31,099 --> 00:54:33,179
there. Right? It's such a big thing. Mhmm.

1522
00:54:33,179 --> 00:54:35,019
John Zimmerman, thank you for coming and Thank

1523
00:54:35,019 --> 00:54:37,579
you so much. For having me. Yeah. And

1524
00:54:37,579 --> 00:54:39,764
on a short notice too. Yeah. Thank you

1525
00:54:39,764 --> 00:54:41,364
for doing that. Really You know me. I

1526
00:54:41,364 --> 00:54:42,424
crave the limelight.

1527
00:54:44,405 --> 00:54:46,164
Well, I'll be down here pretty soon. Hey,

1528
00:54:46,164 --> 00:54:48,085
listen. How do you how do you John,

1529
00:54:48,085 --> 00:54:50,244
how do you know if a doctor is

1530
00:54:50,244 --> 00:54:50,744
fake?

1531
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:52,820
Because

1532
00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:54,420
if they have good handwriting.

1533
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,400
I can let them come up. Hey. Wait.

1534
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,480
Wait. Wait. What are we doing? We're doing

1535
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,099
fun time corner.

1536
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,539
Okay. Alrighty.

1537
00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:05,440
Let's see. So I have okay. I have

1538
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,005
quotes too. Where are you at? But we

1539
00:55:07,085 --> 00:55:08,844
Please, yeah. Give us Thank you for John

1540
00:55:08,844 --> 00:55:11,324
for jumping in. We had other guests planned.

1541
00:55:11,324 --> 00:55:12,065
So my,

1542
00:55:12,764 --> 00:55:15,344
quotes are not as happy as the lighthouse.

1543
00:55:15,484 --> 00:55:15,984
So

1544
00:55:16,764 --> 00:55:19,025
the best way out is always through.

1545
00:55:19,739 --> 00:55:21,420
The best way out is always through. Okay.

1546
00:55:21,420 --> 00:55:23,019
I like it. I like it. Good. It

1547
00:55:23,019 --> 00:55:25,420
does not matter how slowly you go as

1548
00:55:25,420 --> 00:55:27,280
long as you do not stop.

1549
00:55:27,739 --> 00:55:30,559
That's kind of Zen, right? That's Confucius. Confucius.

1550
00:55:30,699 --> 00:55:32,639
Okay. Close enough. Yeah. Okay.

1551
00:55:34,094 --> 00:55:35,554
I used to be a lumberjack.

1552
00:55:36,255 --> 00:55:38,014
I couldn't hack it, so they gave me

1553
00:55:38,014 --> 00:55:38,835
the ax.

1554
00:55:40,175 --> 00:55:41,934
What did the one earthquake say to the

1555
00:55:41,934 --> 00:55:43,775
other earthquake? What did one earthquake say to

1556
00:55:43,775 --> 00:55:46,034
the other earthquake, John? It's not my fault.

1557
00:55:47,690 --> 00:55:49,369
No. Wait a minute. Well, that's a problem.

1558
00:55:49,369 --> 00:55:51,210
Wait. That reminds me that that,

1559
00:55:51,849 --> 00:55:54,250
they're gonna rename the the San Andreas Fault.

1560
00:55:54,250 --> 00:55:55,769
Actually, Trump. Trump is gonna come out and

1561
00:55:55,769 --> 00:55:58,090
he's gonna rename the San Andreas Fault. You

1562
00:55:58,090 --> 00:56:00,329
know what he's gonna rename it? Joe Biden's

1563
00:56:00,329 --> 00:56:00,829
fault.

1564
00:56:02,585 --> 00:56:04,744
I got him to laugh. Hey, he finally

1565
00:56:04,744 --> 00:56:05,244
laughed.

1566
00:56:05,625 --> 00:56:06,125
Doctor

1567
00:56:06,984 --> 00:56:08,664
Doctor Gigi told me to stop acting like

1568
00:56:08,664 --> 00:56:09,324
a flamingo.

1569
00:56:09,944 --> 00:56:11,464
I had to put my fat foot down

1570
00:56:11,464 --> 00:56:12,284
on that one.

1571
00:56:13,539 --> 00:56:15,059
Flat foot? No. I had to put my

1572
00:56:15,059 --> 00:56:16,500
foot down on that one. Foot down? Okay.

1573
00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:17,000
Alright.

1574
00:56:17,699 --> 00:56:19,639
Alright. Give us some more We're all broken.

1575
00:56:19,699 --> 00:56:21,400
That's how the light gets in.

1576
00:56:21,779 --> 00:56:23,539
Oh, I like it. Now this is for

1577
00:56:23,539 --> 00:56:24,819
our guests that were supposed to be here

1578
00:56:24,819 --> 00:56:26,675
today, but that's okay. Well, that's what I

1579
00:56:26,675 --> 00:56:28,994
preamble We're happy that John came in. Yeah.

1580
00:56:28,994 --> 00:56:31,074
We are. So that's why I apologize for

1581
00:56:31,074 --> 00:56:33,315
the not so happy. I used to I

1582
00:56:33,315 --> 00:56:34,614
used to think I was indecisive,

1583
00:56:35,235 --> 00:56:37,094
but now I'm not too sure.

1584
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,019
I don't suffer from insanity.

1585
00:56:41,559 --> 00:56:44,360
I enjoy every minute of it. John, do

1586
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,340
you have a joke?

1587
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,960
Yeah. Some days it's not worth chewing through

1588
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:48,619
the restraints.

1589
00:56:51,885 --> 00:56:54,385
Nice one. I gotta remember that one. Alright.

1590
00:56:54,525 --> 00:56:57,244
Don't let the past steal your present. That

1591
00:56:57,244 --> 00:56:58,465
is such a good one.

1592
00:56:58,765 --> 00:57:01,345
That is good. Alcohol is a perfect solvent.

1593
00:57:01,644 --> 00:57:04,065
It dissolves marriages, families, and careers.

1594
00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:11,670
I wake up doctor Gigi every night at

1595
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:13,609
exactly 12:59AM

1596
00:57:13,909 --> 00:57:15,909
because that's when we have our one to

1597
00:57:15,909 --> 00:57:16,485
one talk.

1598
00:57:17,845 --> 00:57:18,805
12:59.

1599
00:57:18,805 --> 00:57:20,325
Got it. Got it. Got it. Okay. Got

1600
00:57:20,325 --> 00:57:22,485
it the first time around. Turn your face

1601
00:57:22,485 --> 00:57:24,885
to the sun and the shadows fall behind

1602
00:57:24,885 --> 00:57:25,385
you.

1603
00:57:25,684 --> 00:57:26,184
Nice.

1604
00:57:26,485 --> 00:57:28,025
Never spell spell

1605
00:57:28,405 --> 00:57:30,724
the word p a r t. Never spell

1606
00:57:30,724 --> 00:57:32,105
the word park backwards

1607
00:57:32,650 --> 00:57:34,030
because it's a trap.

1608
00:57:35,449 --> 00:57:37,849
Get it? That's Alcohol when truth needs a

1609
00:57:37,849 --> 00:57:38,349
laxative.

1610
00:57:45,545 --> 00:57:47,065
Oh, I I got I had a good

1611
00:57:47,065 --> 00:57:47,565
one.

1612
00:57:48,184 --> 00:57:50,025
Oh, my god. That is a funny one.

1613
00:57:50,025 --> 00:57:52,265
Okay. What else? People are shocked when they

1614
00:57:52,265 --> 00:57:54,105
find out how bad I am as an

1615
00:57:54,105 --> 00:57:54,605
electrician.

1616
00:57:56,744 --> 00:57:59,005
Money talks. Mine just says goodbye.

1617
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:02,800
Wait. How did that go with your Visa

1618
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,380
got stolen? Oh, yeah. My Visa got stolen.

1619
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:08,320
Now it's everywhere that I wanna be. Yeah.

1620
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:09,760
And And I'm not I'm not worried about

1621
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,239
it because the thief, he's he's spending a

1622
00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:13,844
lot less than I usually do on it.

1623
00:58:14,085 --> 00:58:16,025
Okay. That's a good one. Hey, guess what?

1624
00:58:16,085 --> 00:58:18,565
Right. Are we finished? Yes. You have been

1625
00:58:18,565 --> 00:58:21,125
listening to the Doc and Jock show on

1626
00:58:21,125 --> 00:58:21,625
KCRW

1627
00:58:22,244 --> 00:58:24,804
one hundred point seven FM in Brookings, Oregon.

1628
00:58:24,804 --> 00:58:26,989
Uh-huh. We sure hope you you have enjoyed

1629
00:58:26,989 --> 00:58:28,750
our show as much as we have learning

1630
00:58:28,750 --> 00:58:31,230
about John Zimmerman and the St. George's brief

1631
00:58:31,230 --> 00:58:33,469
flight hose in listening to him. Again, and

1632
00:58:33,469 --> 00:58:35,710
that was a Great report. Yeah. Very welcome.

1633
00:58:35,949 --> 00:58:37,550
You keep you you brought my part because

1634
00:58:37,550 --> 00:58:38,829
I don't have it pulled up in front

1635
00:58:38,829 --> 00:58:39,409
of me.

1636
00:58:39,965 --> 00:58:41,164
Mail us if you are or know of

1637
00:58:41,164 --> 00:58:43,485
a talented, interesting person that might join us

1638
00:58:43,485 --> 00:58:46,125
in our show, docandjock@gmail.com.

1639
00:58:46,125 --> 00:58:47,585
Goodbye. Thank you. Everybody.

1640
00:58:48,550 --> 00:58:54,090
Some love. Let me go to the next

1641
00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:56,500
one. That's Tony Tursoa.