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Well, hello again, KCIW

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listeners, and welcome to Curry Cafe.

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I'm volunteer Rick McNamer.

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Every Sunday from three to four, your host

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and KCIW's

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famous radio personality,

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mister Ray Gary, and I put together a

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panel of guests to discuss topics of interest

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in our community.

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Again, texting questions or comments to (541)

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Now here's Ray to tell us about today's

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show. Yeah. This is something that

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is on everybody's mind or should be on

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everybody's mind.

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And the subject,

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reminds me, I think it was Carl Sagan

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who said that extraordinary

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claims

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require extraordinary evidence. And I think we have

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a couple of people here that are gonna

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give us just that. So as we go

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around the room,

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we need you both to introduce yourself and

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give us

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all the reasons you have expertise in this

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field. Who are we starting with? Go ahead.

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Myself with me. Yes. We generally go clockwise.

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Okay. And you already know the two of

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you. Unless unless unless you think the world

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should go the other way. Well, counterclockwise,

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spiral arms do exist in the universe, but

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that's alright. That's another subject.

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My name is Billie Ruth Hopkins Farooichi.

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I do have a podcast on KCIW

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called

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Angelita's

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Wings,

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and it is my

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science fiction

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tale

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about,

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many characters flying off into space

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through wormholes and whatnot.

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Right. Oh my goodness. But I've got I've

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got some interesting,

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data from a friend of mine. I used

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to be the ghostwriter for his book, so

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I'll get to that later. Yeah.

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Alright. Well, I am Shirley Hyatt, and I

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have a couple of shows on KZIW,

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which I hope you listen to, Stardust and

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Mostly Bluegrass.

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And so I'm sitting in today as a

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guest,

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and I don't know much about this subject

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other than to just say

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it's possible.

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It is very possible.

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Okay. That's all Shirley has to say. So,

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Billy, you wanna start us out? I know.

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I I think that's not all Shirley has.

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So So we actually have three famous radio

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personalities here today. We do. There we go.

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Golly. Yeah. And you're becoming more famous at

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the days go by.

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The famousness is just all around me. Well,

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I'll tell you what. You've got the best

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radio voice.

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Okay. One thing. Good. That's one thing. That's

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a very good thing.

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When when I started, I was told that

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that was me, but I guess I'm getting

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older and my radio voice has gone away.

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More than one good radio voice. Out of

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number one, have we? Alright. Yeah. Because I

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was starting to feel really bad.

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No. No. This is not a competition.

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No. For you.

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So we're often Girls aren't as competitive as

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guys are. I guess, I Yeah. We are

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often running on the topic of UFOs, and

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boy can go

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all over the place. And,

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Billy, would you like to start? Well, I

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don't know. I I think you watched a

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movie that has some interest in what's coming

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into yet. That'll come in later, do you

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think? Anytime. I mean There is a movie

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it's a documentary out there that

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I was privy to and watched it called

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The Age of Disclosure.

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And I tell you what, it was very

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interesting, very eye opening. And, yes, throughout the

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show, I'll probably be coming from that

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vantage point, if you will, through most of

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the show because it was impressive to me.

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be especially because my friend Dan Weiss

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is the author of a book that I

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was, at first, a ghostwriter for many, many

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years ago, and his it's his tale of

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the hollow earth.

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when after he came back from Vietnam,

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someone in Kansas who called himself Ritter von

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for

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the Nazis.

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into the center of the

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Earth. Now this

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is is his book is, quote, unquote, fiction,

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but he believes all of it. He might

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I even told him, please listen to our

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show, and he might text in Oh, let's

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go. Of questions. I really hope he does.

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Yeah. Well, so say how how that relates

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to UFOs.

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Well, it relates because the, you remember the

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story of admiral Byrd flying over the Yeah.

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Poles. Mhmm. And admiral Byrd supposedly had a

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secret diary that documented his trips into the

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center of the Earth where he

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met several,

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beings from outer space who were living in

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the center of the Earth.

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there are also documented files.

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Did there work? Never never. No. Go ahead.

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I was gonna ask if that's where Republicans

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come from. Oh, you know what? Now Now

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get off into political

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realm. Yeah. But but Just scratch that.

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that, he says there are over 600 FBI

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files

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regarding you both 05/30

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and the conversations between Adolf Hitler

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and beings under the

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in the center of the Earth.

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the content included

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in his latest book,

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called The Holy Lance,

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talks about all of all of the conversations

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that they had with this, U boat captain,

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Ritter von Ex.

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Okay. That's a new one. I've never heard

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of that. And it's it would be interesting.

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He does have a, he has a movie

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coming out called

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The Hollow Earth, of course. That's the name

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of it. And, The Hollow Earth and the

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Spear of

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and The Hollow Earth Revisited. I think there

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are two separate movies. So the people who

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are living in there are supposedly not people

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from our

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planet No. But people who came from who

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knows where

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and decided to make their home there for

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some reason?

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For observational purposes. To watch to make sure

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that we are not blowing ourselves up. Oh,

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well, we're good with that. Little guys they

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found in Mexico a few years ago? Oh,

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I don't think that has anything to do

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with those little guys. Okay. No. Uh-uh. No.

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That's a different race entirely. Yeah. Yeah.

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aspect of it a little bit, but,

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and I'll like I said, throughout here, I'll

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try to touch on some of the stuff

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that I garnered from that. It's a great

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documentary.

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If you have a chance to watch it,

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Amazon I don't have Amazon Prime. I actually

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paid for the privilege of watching the movie

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in preparation for this show. And what's the

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name of it? The Age of Disclosure.

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politicians,

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generals

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from both sides of the aisle

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were all in cahoots

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on how important

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the research that they've done

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is. So it covered both sides of the

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aisle. And is it It was about national

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security. It covered national security because of what

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they found a lot of stuff, basically.

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Extraordinary evidence?

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I would call it Okay. That Evidence

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of extraterrestrial

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of non

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nonhuman

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craft and

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nonhuman

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bodies. I'll try to get into a little

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more detail as we go. But the some

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of this was documented a lot by navy,

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air force, and marine pilots Mhmm. That were

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witnessing craft Mhmm. Traveling at

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speeds that

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we don't we can't do. Above 60 miles

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an hour. Oh, well above that. Well above

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that. Now this is in nineteen forties.

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believe, was

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well, fairly recent with Oh, okay. So it's

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new Oh, no. New information. In fact, one

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Marco Rubio.

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mean, again, both sides of the aisle, but

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what they found. They were figuring that the

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the speeds that they witnessed

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some of these craft doing

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the way they would

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fly, let's say, over the ocean, fly into

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the ocean, come out of the ocean with

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no discernible,

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splash is about the best way I could

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determine it. It cut through like a knife

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through butter. There you go. There you go.

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But, again, this wasn't like Leonard Nimoy's

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In Search Of or anything. This was a

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documentary that was,

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pretty serious.

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years Yes. Coming in and out of water.

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So why do you think that it is

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still so hush-hush

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if people are

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claiming that this is true and they have

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evidence and blah blah blah? It is true.

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Why is this the big question? Where is

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the history? Because we might panic.

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We might panic? Oh, I believe. Not sure

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what that panic would look like. Would we

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all go

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hide our basement? Everybody no. I'd wanna go

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there. I'd say, show me. Yeah. I don't

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think I don't think people would panic at

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after all that we've heard about these things

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I really believe this now this is my

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personal belief. So Okay. Do you want my

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personal belief? I do. I really believe that

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it's not unrelated to what to,

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preventing world wars. And,

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they're watching to make sure that we don't

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blow ourselves up again. And if we do,

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then they will come back to help us

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rebuild civilization

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while as they have

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for millennia,

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because

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we've done this to ourselves before, and the

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ancient aliens are simply us

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coming back to help us.

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Well That's my belief. But another That's my

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belief. That's my belief. Another aspect of it

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is,

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now, of course, the nonhuman part wouldn't be

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part of this, but the concern that maybe

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could be one of our, quote, enemies, I'll

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throw out China,

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that have developed

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technology

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that that we're not aware of.

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And that's what some of that concern is.

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Because,

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some of the military people that were part

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of that documentary,

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couple of them have witnessed,

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I say UFO. They also call them UAPs.

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UAPs. That's the new term. Yeah. Yeah. Unidentified

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anomalous I have to say it right. Unidentified

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anomalous phenomena.

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Mhmm. But there were two instances, both from

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Air Force higher ups that witnessed,

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UAPs hovering above

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ICBM

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site

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in the, Ellsworth, I think, Air Force Bay,

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San Diego, and the other one was at

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Vandenberg.

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Mhmm.

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Again, I guess everybody has to take it

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with a grain of salt. Now how were

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these were these flying around in the daytime?

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No. At night. Oh, I think Both of

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the ones that

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I garnered from there, was in the in

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the evening at night. And they have lights

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on. Right?

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The one was the one at South Dakota

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Ellsworth was very bright.

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The other one was dark a dark rectangle

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in Vandenberg that that they say they couldn't

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discern any

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opening windows. And then that one,

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after witnessing it hovering above,

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I think it was a nuclear site, if

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I'm not or or an ICBM site. Mhmm.

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After they witnessed it for so long, it,

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according to the people, took off at a

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very high speed Deep to it. And then

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was gone. So where do they go when

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they leave their

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business here running around and trying to scare

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people to death? Nose. Yeah. Well, there you

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go. He knows. No. I'm I'm I'm not

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in favor of just assuming everything.

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But Well, sure. Surely. But at Certainly. But

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at the same time, I think you have

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to apply

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some logic to this. I mean, we've we've

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certainly seen enough documentaries

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of that that couple who

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claim that they were taken aboard the UFO

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and they were,

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probed and,

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you know, people who ever see the the

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Saturday night live takeoffs on those things? No.

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I haven't been Oh, you have you have

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to look it up. They have that different

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Well, there have been a lot of people

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who claim that they have been abducted. Yeah.

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And are they treated as legitimate

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people? Are they treated as as, people who

355
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have lost their marbles somehow?

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I'm I think it covers the spectrum there

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whom we hear stories about that. Playing devil's

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advocate a little bit because I think if

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it's that

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out there, if it is that,

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confirmed

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well, like, I guess somebody asked Obama, and

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he said, yeah. He he said he believed

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that aliens were real. Now

365
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nobody went on to say,

366
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so tell me about that. So what do

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you mean that they are real? What does

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that mean? Kinda did. The the the the

369
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full quote was more along the lines of,

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there's so many planets and so you know,

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there pretty much has to be. That's not

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what he said, but that's what it is.

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And and he also

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also reaffirmed the idea that there we do

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not have any aliens

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in Area 51

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unless they kept it secret from the president

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of The United States, which state.

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Anyway. Speaking of the president and by the

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way, if y'all out there have seen or

381
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been abducted, you can call her. I mean,

382
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you can text it. Or I'm being abducted

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this very moment. (541)

384
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661-4098.

385
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Or if you're an abductor

386
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out there, I'd like to take a little

387
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vacation. I I I'm like, beam me up.

388
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You know? Exactly. Me yeah. Me too. I

389
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think we have automatic translators for that language.

390
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Yes.

391
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Well, Ray, you brought up you said the

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president part of in, in that documentary was,

393
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some of the people in there felt there

394
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was even,

395
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information

396
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that god. Now I can't remember. There was

397
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another group within

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anyway, they were

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trying to keep the president of The United

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States out of some of this information,

401
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figuring they were,

402
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they just didn't want even the president to

403
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know. Well, supposedly, that's why Eisenhower

404
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was,

405
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was taken into one of the Area 51

406
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places,

407
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and he observed there there had been some

408
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documentary

409
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about Eisenhower going in when he was president.

410
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So way back then, they were they were

411
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definitely researching it. The reality of it is

412
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that

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Area 51 is apparently a highly

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secretive spot. We were doing highly secret stuff,

415
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and Sure.

416
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What's wrong with that?

417
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There's nothing wrong with that. Wrong with that.

418
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And I think that is Just because it's

419
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secret doesn't mean we have the alien in

420
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there. We're doing This is true. Autopsies. And

421
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This is true.

422
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Because they they are developing a lot of

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super sonic. They developed the supersonic,

424
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jet

425
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in that Area 51,

426
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in the in the forties, I think it

427
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was. Yeah.

428
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Well, is that we you know, the questions,

429
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we probably should all

430
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be asking, which which we do, do

431
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do you believe

432
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that there could be an Oh, absolutely. I

433
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believe certainly believe there could be. Do I

434
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believe There could be. Yeah. That it's been

435
00:16:02,605 --> 00:16:03,904
proven? No.

436
00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,759
Not yet. I think I I'd be more

437
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likely to believe that there was a little

438
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bit more consistency.

439
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If one one time there are a blob

440
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that's a white light or a yellow light,

441
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next time they're a square, next time they're

442
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round, and then the infamous one that's, that's

443
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triangular shape and flies with its lights on.

444
00:16:22,264 --> 00:16:24,585
Why why should why should each craft be

445
00:16:24,585 --> 00:16:27,065
identical? We have look how many look look

446
00:16:27,065 --> 00:16:29,639
how many different types of craft we have.

447
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But but they all have the same basic

448
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concept. They have wings, and they have propellers

449
00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,879
and all. And that if you if you

450
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saw

451
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a a a plane that was built in

452
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Russia today or a plane that was it's

453
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a plane. It's

454
00:16:42,615 --> 00:16:45,435
it has similar characteristics, and all these things

455
00:16:45,815 --> 00:16:48,295
are completely different. The shape Well, we have

456
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to assume that if it's something that's so

457
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self contained,

458
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that doesn't appear to have windows, doesn't appear

459
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to have any form of propulsion,

460
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how is it getting around? I mean, how

461
00:17:00,759 --> 00:17:03,080
what is propelling it? Why why isn't there

462
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a sound? That is one of the huge

463
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questions that they talk about.

464
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One thing they talked about that when the

465
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pilots were telling them or relaying the mess

466
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or video that they've shown with these

467
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crafts going at supersonic speeds, I don't know

468
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how else to describe it, faster than anything

469
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we could come up with at this time.

470
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And going into the water, not making a

471
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splash,

472
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that there's this energy that we have no

473
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idea how

474
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energy and fuel

475
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that we have no idea what they Well,

476
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I think you've hit on it there with

477
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that word energy because that that is something

478
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that obviously

479
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can be harnessed

480
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energy. Everything is energy. Everything is Mhmm. Is,

481
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you know, why why is everything

482
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glued together, so to speak? Why why doesn't

483
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it all fly off in every direction? Because

484
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Gravity. Gravity. Of gravity. You know? Yeah. And

485
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if these if these,

486
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phenomenon or these crafts

487
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aren't subject to gravity or they they have

488
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the power to

489
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to take off a a a gazillion

490
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miles per hour Mhmm. Where are they going?

491
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It's a well, they're

492
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I mean, presumably,

493
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they come from

494
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just distant galaxies,

495
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and, they they need to be able to

496
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get back to those distant galaxies quickly. So

497
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they have developed

498
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the the means by which they can supersonically

499
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just zip through the

500
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the closest wormhole and We are the, the

501
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ants in the anthill that they're looking at.

502
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Not necessarily.

503
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No. I don't think that's necessarily I think

504
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all the numbers say that the closest possible

505
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place that could be inhabited

506
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is, like, 500 light years away. Light years

507
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away. Yeah.

508
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Yeah. Those distances

509
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are,

510
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to me, unimaginable.

511
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And they're subject to our

512
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understanding

513
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of physics. Of physics. Exactly right. Okay. And

514
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I'm certainly no

515
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scientist here, but from what I understand,

516
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they say that nothing can go faster than

517
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the speed of light

518
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as we know it now. As we know

519
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it now. Yeah. But, you know,

520
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I'm not saying that's a hard and fast

521
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rule. I don't know. Because things change. I

522
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mean, over the centuries, we have changed our

523
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perception

524
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of these rules, quote, unquote, rules of the

525
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universe. People used to think the world was

526
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flat. Well, sometimes still

527
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do. That could be a subject for another

528
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show.

529
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But I've looked into that, and I I

530
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still don't understand the reasoning. So Yeah. No.

531
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I I don't either.

532
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But it doesn't mean that it's not

533
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a a topic that some scientists, like, could

534
00:19:45,369 --> 00:19:47,529
some scientists who know a whole lot more

535
00:19:47,529 --> 00:19:51,150
than the four of us Mhmm. Could could

536
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suss out and,

537
00:19:52,825 --> 00:19:55,464
begin to understand how they zip away so

538
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quickly

539
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and to where they are going. Like Shirley

540
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said, where are they going? Yeah. Well and

541
00:20:01,144 --> 00:20:03,785
we don't even know what life form it

542
00:20:03,785 --> 00:20:06,700
is Mhmm. That Yeah. Perhaps is not even

543
00:20:06,700 --> 00:20:09,440
on board. Maybe that craft isn't even

544
00:20:10,220 --> 00:20:12,880
manned. Right. Pardon the expression. Maybe it's all

545
00:20:13,259 --> 00:20:14,079
all some,

546
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AI generated Good. Non non

547
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Non you? Anti Maybe there's no organic material

548
00:20:20,315 --> 00:20:22,075
there, and it's all just And it's all

549
00:20:22,075 --> 00:20:24,234
just AI generated. That's what happened. Maybe that's

550
00:20:24,234 --> 00:20:26,154
where our world Back way back when, they

551
00:20:26,154 --> 00:20:28,234
fooled around too much with AI, and that's

552
00:20:28,234 --> 00:20:29,994
what they came up with. Yeah. Yeah. That

553
00:20:29,994 --> 00:20:31,434
is a worry. I mean, I wouldn't be

554
00:20:31,434 --> 00:20:31,934
surprised

555
00:20:32,234 --> 00:20:33,054
about that.

556
00:20:33,650 --> 00:20:36,289
Well, Tucker Tucker Carlson, we all remember Tucker

557
00:20:36,289 --> 00:20:38,529
Carlson, who was still alive even though he

558
00:20:38,529 --> 00:20:39,029
got

559
00:20:39,329 --> 00:20:39,829
anyway,

560
00:20:40,210 --> 00:20:42,150
he says it's super supernatural.

561
00:20:42,849 --> 00:20:45,169
That's his the only explanation. That's always easy

562
00:20:45,169 --> 00:20:47,715
to say. Sure. But way back when It's

563
00:20:47,715 --> 00:20:48,295
a mystery.

564
00:20:48,674 --> 00:20:50,055
Way way back when Probably

565
00:20:50,674 --> 00:20:51,894
even now, they had

566
00:20:52,434 --> 00:20:54,055
what physicists call the

567
00:20:55,075 --> 00:20:56,055
the God gaps.

568
00:20:56,674 --> 00:20:58,934
If there was something they didn't understand

569
00:20:59,555 --> 00:21:01,869
Mhmm. Well, that has to be God. Has

570
00:21:01,869 --> 00:21:04,369
to be God. Well It must be God.

571
00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:07,150
Speaking of God and religion, I'll go here

572
00:21:07,150 --> 00:21:09,869
because within the documentary and again, I wanna,

573
00:21:10,109 --> 00:21:12,609
if if you all have a chance, it

574
00:21:12,750 --> 00:21:14,990
it really is a good documentary. It's not

575
00:21:14,990 --> 00:21:17,995
like What's it called? The Age of Disclosure.

576
00:21:17,995 --> 00:21:21,434
It's k. It's And it's on Amazon Prime.

577
00:21:21,434 --> 00:21:23,055
Amazon Prime. It

578
00:21:23,434 --> 00:21:25,035
it's more akin to something that you would

579
00:21:25,035 --> 00:21:26,654
see on PBS's Frontline

580
00:21:27,195 --> 00:21:29,154
rather than Litter and Des Moines or talk

581
00:21:29,275 --> 00:21:32,130
Yeah. That it really done well. But there

582
00:21:32,130 --> 00:21:33,029
was a mention

583
00:21:33,410 --> 00:21:34,789
of one of the reasons

584
00:21:35,730 --> 00:21:38,210
that they want to keep this under wraps.

585
00:21:38,210 --> 00:21:40,789
Some people wanna keep it under wraps

586
00:21:41,170 --> 00:21:41,910
were the

587
00:21:42,369 --> 00:21:42,869
religious

588
00:21:45,384 --> 00:21:47,404
factions in high military

589
00:21:47,785 --> 00:21:48,924
and government

590
00:21:49,545 --> 00:21:50,285
that were,

591
00:21:50,984 --> 00:21:52,444
believed it was part

592
00:21:52,904 --> 00:21:54,365
of the devil, Satan.

593
00:21:54,744 --> 00:21:56,424
Oh, there you go. Oh, and you continued

594
00:21:56,424 --> 00:21:58,285
to watch it after they said that?

595
00:21:59,089 --> 00:22:01,269
In the documentary, that was their reasons

596
00:22:01,570 --> 00:22:03,410
that they were saying that some of the

597
00:22:03,410 --> 00:22:04,529
people didn't want the,

598
00:22:05,410 --> 00:22:07,410
the facts out there. Well, I can because

599
00:22:07,410 --> 00:22:08,849
it was the work of the devil. And

600
00:22:08,849 --> 00:22:11,329
we know that there are some people in

601
00:22:11,329 --> 00:22:12,070
high places

602
00:22:12,775 --> 00:22:15,674
that let that religious zealotry take over,

603
00:22:16,615 --> 00:22:18,394
common sense. Yeah. We do.

604
00:22:19,174 --> 00:22:20,934
So, again, that's just one of the other

605
00:22:21,174 --> 00:22:23,035
Well facets of that. Documentary.

606
00:22:23,494 --> 00:22:26,234
Yeah. I think that is really interesting because

607
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,380
everything that you can't explain,

608
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,539
then, of course, you can cast

609
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,680
pass that off onto God to say, well

610
00:22:32,839 --> 00:22:35,400
Right. It's the unexplainable. But he you know?

611
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,320
Or the devil. God or the devil. Yeah.

612
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,525
Yeah. And so if Mhmm. If you cast

613
00:22:39,525 --> 00:22:42,565
him cast this into into saying it's of

614
00:22:42,565 --> 00:22:45,384
the devil, then that's has an evil intention.

615
00:22:45,924 --> 00:22:46,984
And so far,

616
00:22:47,445 --> 00:22:50,085
have we anything to say that it is

617
00:22:50,085 --> 00:22:51,465
an evilly intended

618
00:22:53,789 --> 00:22:55,950
vehicle of some sort. I mean, what has

619
00:22:55,950 --> 00:22:58,829
it done? What have these crafts done to

620
00:22:58,829 --> 00:23:01,170
prove, one way or the other, that they're

621
00:23:01,549 --> 00:23:03,390
here for good or good for here for

622
00:23:03,390 --> 00:23:04,990
good? You don't think that. Well, if you

623
00:23:05,150 --> 00:23:07,855
as an answer. If you have watched any

624
00:23:07,855 --> 00:23:09,174
of the ancient alien

625
00:23:09,615 --> 00:23:10,434
Yeah. Series,

626
00:23:10,815 --> 00:23:12,515
there's a woman, Linda, somebody

627
00:23:12,974 --> 00:23:15,234
who who did a who is

628
00:23:15,855 --> 00:23:19,054
studying how the mutilation of animals Yeah. Has

629
00:23:19,054 --> 00:23:19,954
occurred throughout

630
00:23:20,255 --> 00:23:20,970
the the

631
00:23:21,929 --> 00:23:24,409
whole planet. It's all over the world. And

632
00:23:24,409 --> 00:23:27,849
that these these cows, particularly cows, I don't

633
00:23:27,849 --> 00:23:29,849
know why they would be interested in particular

634
00:23:29,929 --> 00:23:30,990
because they're docile.

635
00:23:31,450 --> 00:23:33,369
They don't they they just stand around, don't

636
00:23:33,369 --> 00:23:35,069
seem to be doing anything. I mean, maybe.

637
00:23:35,130 --> 00:23:37,234
I don't know. Maybe that's what they're trying

638
00:23:37,234 --> 00:23:39,075
to figure out is why don't cows do

639
00:23:39,075 --> 00:23:41,474
any Why why don't cows cut them open

640
00:23:41,474 --> 00:23:43,794
and stuff. They just walk around and Yeah.

641
00:23:43,794 --> 00:23:47,154
They just die. But but they evidently, they

642
00:23:47,154 --> 00:23:49,815
extract all of their organs and leave these

643
00:23:50,115 --> 00:23:50,615
cows

644
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,119
bloodless. They extract the organs, and there's no

645
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,180
blood even,

646
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,960
that to to speak of. So that's a

647
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:58,460
very

648
00:23:59,000 --> 00:23:59,500
weird,

649
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,765
thing to happen. The god gap. And the

650
00:24:03,765 --> 00:24:05,525
god gap. I'm just glad they're not doing

651
00:24:05,525 --> 00:24:07,125
it to humans. I have not heard of

652
00:24:07,125 --> 00:24:09,765
any humans having their organs zapped out of

653
00:24:09,765 --> 00:24:12,644
them like cows have. That's because they they

654
00:24:12,644 --> 00:24:14,724
have the ability to make you forget that

655
00:24:14,724 --> 00:24:16,565
that person Per here you go. There you

656
00:24:16,565 --> 00:24:18,265
go. That's it. You know, Bigfoot

657
00:24:18,644 --> 00:24:19,144
exists,

658
00:24:19,650 --> 00:24:21,410
but he has the ability to make you

659
00:24:21,410 --> 00:24:23,809
forget that you saw him. So you probably

660
00:24:23,809 --> 00:24:24,930
saw three of them on the way to

661
00:24:24,930 --> 00:24:26,850
work. I may have. In fact, I may

662
00:24:26,850 --> 00:24:29,250
be maybe they transformed me into one of

663
00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:31,029
them, and I'm really not Billy.

664
00:24:32,384 --> 00:24:35,265
Sometimes I would yeah. I mean, you could

665
00:24:35,505 --> 00:24:38,464
yeah. I've been accused of being silly, so,

666
00:24:38,464 --> 00:24:40,384
you know, silly Billy can be

667
00:24:41,184 --> 00:24:43,025
I think it's interesting that most of this

668
00:24:43,025 --> 00:24:43,765
stuff started

669
00:24:44,785 --> 00:24:47,765
during and shortly after World War two.

670
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,299
We're supposedly World War two pilots

671
00:24:50,839 --> 00:24:52,460
They saw. Report seeing

672
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,220
fast things and Of the food bars. Mhmm.

673
00:24:56,519 --> 00:24:59,559
Observations of them started around then. Yeah. Well,

674
00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:02,119
that's what Danny's book talks about. He talks

675
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,259
about Adolf Hitler

676
00:25:03,694 --> 00:25:06,255
having the u boat captain going into the

677
00:25:06,255 --> 00:25:07,634
middle of the Earth and,

678
00:25:08,414 --> 00:25:08,914
and,

679
00:25:10,174 --> 00:25:13,134
meeting this being down there. I'm gonna find

680
00:25:13,134 --> 00:25:15,055
it here in his writing that I that

681
00:25:15,055 --> 00:25:16,035
he just sent me.

682
00:25:16,410 --> 00:25:18,670
It says Danny says here,

683
00:25:18,970 --> 00:25:21,390
of all the psychic and profound metaphysical

684
00:25:21,769 --> 00:25:24,590
contacts in my life this is Danny talking.

685
00:25:25,130 --> 00:25:28,109
None touched me more deeply than the remarkable

686
00:25:28,490 --> 00:25:30,990
companion of Ritter von Axe known as

687
00:25:31,325 --> 00:25:32,464
a friend of humanity,

688
00:25:33,325 --> 00:25:36,704
the beloved being Thal, t h a l,

689
00:25:36,765 --> 00:25:37,984
an awe inspiring

690
00:25:38,365 --> 00:25:38,865
nortic,

691
00:25:39,724 --> 00:25:40,224
nortic

692
00:25:40,765 --> 00:25:41,265
entity

693
00:25:42,285 --> 00:25:43,664
from the inner Earth

694
00:25:44,450 --> 00:25:47,329
and commander of the mysterious flue fluegel guards,

695
00:25:47,329 --> 00:25:47,829
UFOs,

696
00:25:48,450 --> 00:25:51,750
who shuttle between the southern and northern

697
00:25:52,289 --> 00:25:53,430
grids of our planet,

698
00:25:54,930 --> 00:25:57,250
on the magnetic true north poles and who

699
00:25:57,250 --> 00:26:00,404
serve as extraordinary mediators and messengers.

700
00:26:01,744 --> 00:26:02,244
Now

701
00:26:02,784 --> 00:26:05,264
this is this is what there is the

702
00:26:05,264 --> 00:26:08,784
belief that that, Hitler's that's why Hitler sent

703
00:26:08,784 --> 00:26:11,284
the u boats into the hollow Earth

704
00:26:11,630 --> 00:26:14,509
to locate and talk to these beings. How

705
00:26:14,509 --> 00:26:16,289
come they didn't help him win the war?

706
00:26:16,509 --> 00:26:17,890
I don't know.

707
00:26:18,750 --> 00:26:20,830
Is that where Hitler went? Because it's widely

708
00:26:20,830 --> 00:26:22,590
known that he didn't die in the bunker,

709
00:26:22,590 --> 00:26:23,090
that

710
00:26:24,134 --> 00:26:26,081
nobody shoved the body and all that stuff.

711
00:26:26,134 --> 00:26:28,775
Expected that. Is it either Argentina or Middle

712
00:26:28,775 --> 00:26:32,394
Earth? And perhaps his organs were extracted.

713
00:26:33,174 --> 00:26:36,295
Oh. Oh, this gets more interesting. I don't

714
00:26:36,295 --> 00:26:38,134
know. Do we have a text? Well, we

715
00:26:38,134 --> 00:26:40,340
do have a text and from,

716
00:26:40,820 --> 00:26:42,980
somebody near and dear who also has seen

717
00:26:42,980 --> 00:26:43,559
the movie.

718
00:26:44,180 --> 00:26:44,680
So

719
00:26:45,059 --> 00:26:45,960
from the movie,

720
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:47,320
Jay Stratton,

721
00:26:47,620 --> 00:26:50,600
a former director of the US government's Unidentified

722
00:26:51,059 --> 00:26:52,279
Aerial Phenomena

723
00:26:52,580 --> 00:26:53,880
Task Force said,

724
00:26:54,615 --> 00:26:56,795
I have seen with my own eyes nonhuman

725
00:26:57,015 --> 00:26:57,515
craft

726
00:26:57,894 --> 00:26:58,714
and nonhuman

727
00:26:59,015 --> 00:26:59,515
beings.

728
00:27:00,295 --> 00:27:01,595
Now, again, Jay,

729
00:27:02,214 --> 00:27:05,414
Jay Stratton, very high ranking official that you

730
00:27:05,414 --> 00:27:05,914
know,

731
00:27:06,490 --> 00:27:09,069
these people in this documentary weren't the

732
00:27:09,369 --> 00:27:12,210
the guys wearing bib overalls in Nebraska Right.

733
00:27:12,490 --> 00:27:12,990
Or

734
00:27:13,849 --> 00:27:17,309
they were very credible people. Thank you, Texter,

735
00:27:17,369 --> 00:27:19,769
for that. Now This guy who saw the

736
00:27:19,769 --> 00:27:20,269
aliens

737
00:27:21,805 --> 00:27:23,884
talked to Did he describe what they looked

738
00:27:23,884 --> 00:27:25,424
like? Did he talk about

739
00:27:25,725 --> 00:27:28,205
he said nonhuman. My question is, how does

740
00:27:28,205 --> 00:27:29,265
he know they're nonhuman?

741
00:27:29,565 --> 00:27:30,785
What if they're humans

742
00:27:31,485 --> 00:27:34,365
from the distant future and they don't look

743
00:27:34,365 --> 00:27:36,545
human anymore because they have to

744
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,460
adapt to survive.

745
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,799
I mean, perhaps they are they were at

746
00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:44,519
one time human, or perhaps they're AI. Just

747
00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:46,059
just How does he know they're nonhuman?

748
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,599
I just that was the quote from the

749
00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:50,679
movie, and I do remember that gentleman who

750
00:27:50,679 --> 00:27:54,154
seemed again. Mhmm. I really encourage people if

751
00:27:54,154 --> 00:27:55,914
you could watch it to watch it. It's

752
00:27:55,914 --> 00:27:56,654
it's interesting,

753
00:27:57,035 --> 00:27:57,535
and

754
00:27:57,835 --> 00:27:59,674
it's an eye opener. Yeah. I will do

755
00:27:59,674 --> 00:28:00,174
that.

756
00:28:00,475 --> 00:28:02,394
Ray, you're not I'm not hearing Ray for

757
00:28:02,394 --> 00:28:03,134
some reason.

758
00:28:03,755 --> 00:28:05,829
Hold on. We might have a little glitch,

759
00:28:05,829 --> 00:28:07,509
and we have to have our famous radio

760
00:28:07,509 --> 00:28:10,329
personality. Well, maybe maybe one of those aliens

761
00:28:10,390 --> 00:28:10,710
is make

762
00:28:11,349 --> 00:28:13,829
Ray, they they did did they silence you,

763
00:28:13,829 --> 00:28:17,554
Ray? No. Oh. Maybe maybe the the government.

764
00:28:18,014 --> 00:28:19,634
The the fluuger the

765
00:28:20,414 --> 00:28:22,734
fluuger odds. So Yeah. So does all of

766
00:28:22,734 --> 00:28:24,994
this tie in with the,

767
00:28:26,014 --> 00:28:26,754
the airplanes

768
00:28:27,054 --> 00:28:28,434
that that go missing

769
00:28:28,990 --> 00:28:31,009
when they fly over the Bermuda Triangle.

770
00:28:31,549 --> 00:28:34,190
That wasn't discussed in the documentary. That part,

771
00:28:34,190 --> 00:28:35,950
I don't know. Yeah. You know what? If

772
00:28:35,950 --> 00:28:38,049
you if you're not Dylan. And you're wearing,

773
00:28:38,669 --> 00:28:39,169
white

774
00:28:39,549 --> 00:28:41,789
after Labor Day, you could be considered a

775
00:28:41,789 --> 00:28:42,929
nonhuman vice.

776
00:28:44,664 --> 00:28:45,565
Okay. We're

777
00:28:46,345 --> 00:28:48,105
having this tiny glitch.

778
00:28:48,505 --> 00:28:50,505
Can you hear Ray out there in the

779
00:28:50,664 --> 00:28:52,585
Hold on one second. Okay. They don't like

780
00:28:52,585 --> 00:28:54,585
her. We gotcha, Ray. Our fit they can't

781
00:28:54,585 --> 00:28:56,664
hear a personality here with me because the

782
00:28:56,664 --> 00:28:58,025
air. They they

783
00:28:58,970 --> 00:29:01,049
Say that again. What I'm saying about them,

784
00:29:01,049 --> 00:29:03,130
and they're cutting my microphone. So say that

785
00:29:03,130 --> 00:29:04,650
again. I didn't hear them. Yeah. Here we

786
00:29:04,650 --> 00:29:05,789
go. Say what?

787
00:29:09,210 --> 00:29:11,150
What reason? I was just saying

788
00:29:11,704 --> 00:29:14,664
the areas where the the planes disappear and

789
00:29:14,664 --> 00:29:16,365
go in they think

790
00:29:16,744 --> 00:29:19,724
go into another dimension and disappear.

791
00:29:20,345 --> 00:29:22,585
Now I I would suggest that In the

792
00:29:22,585 --> 00:29:23,724
Bermuda Triangle.

793
00:29:24,424 --> 00:29:27,119
Yeah. This might be another topic altogether, but

794
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:28,579
that that

795
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,859
there are several dimensions, and we do not

796
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,859
see all the dimensions.

797
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,680
So perhaps what the UFOs do is break

798
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,180
through

799
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,960
one of those dimensions that we're not privy

800
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,744
to and that it's going on all the

801
00:29:43,744 --> 00:29:45,125
time. It's like,

802
00:29:45,904 --> 00:29:47,825
my daughter reminded me the other day that

803
00:29:47,825 --> 00:29:49,984
when she was a tiny little thing, I

804
00:29:49,984 --> 00:29:51,825
I swear she was, like, two and a

805
00:29:51,825 --> 00:29:52,724
half. She said,

806
00:29:53,105 --> 00:29:55,424
mommy, this is all just a dream. You

807
00:29:55,424 --> 00:29:55,924
know?

808
00:29:56,669 --> 00:29:58,369
And she's and so,

809
00:29:58,829 --> 00:30:01,309
really, speaking of life just being a dream,

810
00:30:01,309 --> 00:30:03,230
and and Billy is over here saying, uh-huh.

811
00:30:03,230 --> 00:30:06,049
Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Of of parallel universe.

812
00:30:06,190 --> 00:30:07,649
Yeah. So mhmm.

813
00:30:07,950 --> 00:30:10,964
Yep. So is it perhaps is all related

814
00:30:11,025 --> 00:30:13,845
that these these crafts are breaking through

815
00:30:14,384 --> 00:30:16,545
from another dimension, and then they go back

816
00:30:16,545 --> 00:30:19,105
and we don't see them again. And and

817
00:30:19,105 --> 00:30:20,785
there can't be a whole fleet of them

818
00:30:20,785 --> 00:30:23,099
because they well, sometimes they do come in

819
00:30:23,339 --> 00:30:25,900
duplicate numbers. Now you you remember just a

820
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:27,660
few months ago in New Jersey that they

821
00:30:27,660 --> 00:30:28,720
had this invasion

822
00:30:29,419 --> 00:30:31,500
of UFOs that they couldn't figure out until

823
00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:33,339
they Oh, yeah. It was the it was

824
00:30:33,339 --> 00:30:36,400
the drones. Yeah. People flying their own drones.

825
00:30:36,619 --> 00:30:39,484
Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's that's another story. How

826
00:30:39,484 --> 00:30:41,484
do we know? You you mentioned you mentioned

827
00:30:41,484 --> 00:30:44,044
the Bermuda Triangle, which I think has become

828
00:30:44,044 --> 00:30:45,345
famous from all these,

829
00:30:46,525 --> 00:30:48,384
documentaries they do on it as,

830
00:30:49,724 --> 00:30:52,044
there's a a show now about lost in

831
00:30:52,044 --> 00:30:53,039
Alaska or some

832
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,559
this is Alaska Triangle. I think that's what

833
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:58,960
they call it. Oh, wow. It shows shows

834
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,820
the map and the triangle above,

835
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:03,680
and it claims some incredible amount of people

836
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,100
a year a year ago missing in Alaska.

837
00:31:06,894 --> 00:31:08,414
I used to be a search and rescue

838
00:31:08,414 --> 00:31:10,434
coordinator in in Nome,

839
00:31:10,815 --> 00:31:11,315
covered

840
00:31:11,615 --> 00:31:13,315
the Seward Peninsula and beyond.

841
00:31:13,694 --> 00:31:15,694
And, yeah, there were people we never found,

842
00:31:15,694 --> 00:31:18,275
bodies we never found because it is so

843
00:31:18,414 --> 00:31:20,609
vast. You would not believe you think, oh,

844
00:31:21,009 --> 00:31:22,609
jump up in an airplane a couple 100

845
00:31:22,609 --> 00:31:24,130
feet, and you can see it forever. No.

846
00:31:24,130 --> 00:31:25,349
You can fly right

847
00:31:25,730 --> 00:31:27,670
over so you can not see it.

848
00:31:28,289 --> 00:31:30,769
Well, we have another text, and I believe,

849
00:31:30,769 --> 00:31:32,609
Ray, you'll be interested in this. Well, we

850
00:31:32,609 --> 00:31:34,875
all will be interested in this one. The

851
00:31:34,875 --> 00:31:35,934
texter says,

852
00:31:36,555 --> 00:31:40,015
Neil deGrasse Tyson believes it is highly probable

853
00:31:40,474 --> 00:31:43,775
that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe,

854
00:31:43,994 --> 00:31:44,494
but

855
00:31:45,115 --> 00:31:47,150
he strongly doubts extraterrestrial

856
00:31:47,609 --> 00:31:48,109
extraterrestrials

857
00:31:48,809 --> 00:31:49,869
have visited Earth.

858
00:31:50,170 --> 00:31:53,070
He cites the lack of high resolution video

859
00:31:53,130 --> 00:31:53,630
evidence

860
00:31:54,170 --> 00:31:55,630
in an age of ubiquitous

861
00:31:55,930 --> 00:31:58,349
advanced cameras and argues that

862
00:31:58,825 --> 00:31:59,884
extraordinary claims

863
00:32:00,184 --> 00:32:00,684
require

864
00:32:00,985 --> 00:32:02,285
extraordinary evidence,

865
00:32:02,744 --> 00:32:05,305
which he has not seen. Mhmm. Yeah. So

866
00:32:05,305 --> 00:32:06,285
obvious, and

867
00:32:06,744 --> 00:32:09,244
I think we all really like They're they're

868
00:32:09,305 --> 00:32:09,805
hiding

869
00:32:10,345 --> 00:32:12,664
Tyson. They're hiding from Yeah. I like him

870
00:32:12,664 --> 00:32:14,045
a lot. Yeah. I do too.

871
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:16,789
So, anyway, he's, I guess, would be a

872
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:17,289
doubter.

873
00:32:18,149 --> 00:32:19,669
But He what he is is he's a

874
00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:21,750
realist. He looks at the real evidence and

875
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:24,149
kind of and and with his experience as

876
00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:24,889
an astrophysicist

877
00:32:25,349 --> 00:32:27,509
is, it it gives him a little street

878
00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:28,009
cred.

879
00:32:28,345 --> 00:32:31,805
Yeah. There's no question about that. Yeah. Mhmm.

880
00:32:31,945 --> 00:32:35,065
Yeah. Well, and then there again, if we'll

881
00:32:35,065 --> 00:32:36,424
follow this to another

882
00:32:37,065 --> 00:32:38,205
down another road,

883
00:32:39,465 --> 00:32:41,245
there are those of us who are

884
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:44,039
are reincarnated over and over and over again,

885
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:46,200
coming back with more knowledge and more information

886
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,019
and more awareness. Mhmm. And so maybe

887
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,119
some of us,

888
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000
know more than we're letting on, shall we

889
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:53,414
say.

890
00:32:54,934 --> 00:32:57,095
Some some some of us are believers and

891
00:32:57,095 --> 00:32:58,875
some of us are not because

892
00:32:59,894 --> 00:33:02,295
those who are definitely not have not lived

893
00:33:02,295 --> 00:33:05,195
enough lifetimes to Yeah. Yeah. See, it always

894
00:33:05,335 --> 00:33:07,630
Those of us who have been reincarnated many

895
00:33:07,630 --> 00:33:10,210
times are more highly evolved, I would say.

896
00:33:10,350 --> 00:33:13,090
Even if we don't remember those lifetimes,

897
00:33:13,789 --> 00:33:16,529
we we take bring those layers into,

898
00:33:16,830 --> 00:33:19,410
like, the lifetime that we're in right now,

899
00:33:19,470 --> 00:33:19,970
hopefully,

900
00:33:20,625 --> 00:33:21,525
to be able

901
00:33:22,144 --> 00:33:24,305
to overcome a lot of the fears and

902
00:33:24,305 --> 00:33:26,625
and So am I doing my job, or

903
00:33:26,625 --> 00:33:28,005
am I somehow slacking?

904
00:33:28,305 --> 00:33:30,384
No. You're doing your job really well, Shirley.

905
00:33:30,384 --> 00:33:32,724
You're you're a highly evolved reincarnated

906
00:33:33,105 --> 00:33:34,565
being, for sure. Yeah.

907
00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:36,660
I I don't think Shirley has to come

908
00:33:36,660 --> 00:33:39,140
back. No. I don't have to either. Yeah.

909
00:33:39,140 --> 00:33:41,059
I don't either. I'm not coming back again

910
00:33:41,059 --> 00:33:41,559
either.

911
00:33:42,179 --> 00:33:42,500
And

912
00:33:43,220 --> 00:33:45,299
Let's just say she's doing her job up

913
00:33:45,299 --> 00:33:46,920
to the limits of her capability.

914
00:33:47,744 --> 00:33:48,244
Oh,

915
00:33:48,545 --> 00:33:50,625
now now now don't Now wait. Why are

916
00:33:50,625 --> 00:33:52,224
you taking that as a negative thing? Her

917
00:33:52,224 --> 00:33:52,724
capability

918
00:33:53,265 --> 00:33:55,365
Because that's that that's judgment

919
00:33:55,825 --> 00:33:56,724
that's judgmental.

920
00:33:57,105 --> 00:33:59,345
Well, I can be judgmental just like anybody

921
00:33:59,345 --> 00:34:01,786
else. Well, you can't deny it. I'm not

922
00:34:01,786 --> 00:34:04,419
gonna tell you all. We have obvious aliens

923
00:34:04,419 --> 00:34:06,339
living among us. We have a couple that

924
00:34:06,339 --> 00:34:08,500
work here at the radio station. They're

925
00:34:09,139 --> 00:34:11,239
they are people who can do anything.

926
00:34:11,780 --> 00:34:13,994
Well I know a person who can write.

927
00:34:14,235 --> 00:34:16,655
She can sing. She can dance. She can,

928
00:34:17,994 --> 00:34:19,914
do everything, and she's beautiful on top of

929
00:34:19,914 --> 00:34:21,994
it. Now nobody comes out that perfect from

930
00:34:21,994 --> 00:34:23,914
God. You have to You have to worry

931
00:34:23,914 --> 00:34:25,835
about it. Yeah. We have several around. I

932
00:34:25,835 --> 00:34:27,769
can name a couple of them that, oh,

933
00:34:27,769 --> 00:34:29,929
that person. An alien. How can they do

934
00:34:29,929 --> 00:34:30,989
all that? How yeah.

935
00:34:31,449 --> 00:34:33,690
This this is this is where Shirley comes

936
00:34:33,690 --> 00:34:35,710
in because, yeah, she does everything.

937
00:34:36,089 --> 00:34:36,589
And,

938
00:34:36,969 --> 00:34:37,469
and

939
00:34:37,849 --> 00:34:40,344
I To the best of her ability. Yeah.

940
00:34:40,724 --> 00:34:41,224
Beyond

941
00:34:41,525 --> 00:34:42,264
her ability,

942
00:34:42,804 --> 00:34:43,784
shall we say.

943
00:34:44,085 --> 00:34:45,204
But, yeah, you've,

944
00:34:45,924 --> 00:34:46,904
you've accomplished

945
00:34:47,605 --> 00:34:48,904
so much in

946
00:34:49,444 --> 00:34:53,219
your mere ninety years on this planet. Oh,

947
00:34:53,219 --> 00:34:54,280
thank you for that.

948
00:34:55,780 --> 00:34:58,820
No. I said and and and Shirley doesn't

949
00:34:58,820 --> 00:35:01,460
even have gray hair. That's what I Yes,

950
00:35:01,460 --> 00:35:03,699
sir. You do a little bit now just

951
00:35:03,699 --> 00:35:04,605
this year, though.

952
00:35:05,005 --> 00:35:07,344
But, no, you you're highly evolved.

953
00:35:07,804 --> 00:35:09,324
Yeah. That means I don't have to come

954
00:35:09,324 --> 00:35:10,925
back again. Is that right? Have to come

955
00:35:10,925 --> 00:35:12,925
back again. And you might but you might

956
00:35:12,925 --> 00:35:14,385
be able to give us information

957
00:35:14,684 --> 00:35:15,744
from the afterlife,

958
00:35:16,925 --> 00:35:19,920
to download some real truths to those of

959
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,920
us who are left when when when we

960
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:24,960
Lee isn't as forthcoming as we think. He's

961
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,380
from another world. It's critical.

962
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,539
Oh my goodness. Nobody knows.

963
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:32,079
Well, you know, and we're talking I mean,

964
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:33,839
it it is it's a fun topic. We're

965
00:35:33,839 --> 00:35:35,414
talking laughing, but, unfortunately,

966
00:35:35,795 --> 00:35:36,934
the UFO

967
00:35:37,394 --> 00:35:37,894
UAP,

968
00:35:39,634 --> 00:35:40,134
subject

969
00:35:40,674 --> 00:35:42,835
is a lot of times lumped into well,

970
00:35:42,835 --> 00:35:43,815
we talk reincarnation.

971
00:35:44,275 --> 00:35:46,194
It's nothing that I don't think has been

972
00:35:46,194 --> 00:35:48,420
proven yet. We'll go to Bigfoot.

973
00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:51,039
We'll go to now this is my opinion

974
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:52,179
here. But,

975
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,980
Loch Ness, moss, whatever,

976
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,420
ghosts, that kind of thing. There's just no

977
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,920
solid evidence yet as far as I know.

978
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,164
So it gets kinda lumped into that. Because

979
00:36:04,164 --> 00:36:06,264
in Some people call it a woo woo,

980
00:36:07,925 --> 00:36:09,724
subject. You know that By the way, that's

981
00:36:09,925 --> 00:36:11,925
Woo woo. That's not woo woo. There was

982
00:36:11,925 --> 00:36:13,545
a No. There was a television

983
00:36:13,844 --> 00:36:16,579
show. There was an actual television show a

984
00:36:16,579 --> 00:36:17,559
few years ago,

985
00:36:18,260 --> 00:36:20,599
and it dealt with little children

986
00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:23,160
who had proof

987
00:36:23,619 --> 00:36:25,160
of a previous life.

988
00:36:25,539 --> 00:36:26,994
And I saw that. Did you see that?

989
00:36:26,994 --> 00:36:28,675
Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was very

990
00:36:28,675 --> 00:36:31,474
confusing. Perhaps it was all drummed up. Perhaps

991
00:36:31,474 --> 00:36:32,534
it was all phony.

992
00:36:32,994 --> 00:36:35,954
But these these little children were able to

993
00:36:35,954 --> 00:36:37,974
say for example, this little boy

994
00:36:38,510 --> 00:36:40,269
said what his name was and that he

995
00:36:40,269 --> 00:36:42,589
was a pilot. And he was killed. Yes.

996
00:36:42,589 --> 00:36:44,909
And they went and and his parents finally

997
00:36:44,909 --> 00:36:46,909
caved in and said, okay. Okay. Okay. We'll

998
00:36:46,909 --> 00:36:49,389
we'll track it down. And they actually found

999
00:36:49,389 --> 00:36:50,050
the grave

1000
00:36:50,684 --> 00:36:52,625
of this man who had been killed,

1001
00:36:53,164 --> 00:36:55,485
as a as a pilot, and that little

1002
00:36:55,485 --> 00:36:57,485
boy said that that was him. He he

1003
00:36:57,485 --> 00:36:59,265
was the one Yeah. That had,

1004
00:36:59,965 --> 00:37:01,344
died and been reincarnated.

1005
00:37:01,885 --> 00:37:03,265
And they cited several

1006
00:37:03,710 --> 00:37:05,469
of these people. Well, do you remember the

1007
00:37:05,469 --> 00:37:06,849
the Bridie Murphy story?

1008
00:37:07,150 --> 00:37:09,389
Yes. Bridey Murphy? Yes. I do not. Oh,

1009
00:37:09,389 --> 00:37:12,449
years ago. Bridey Murphy was an,

1010
00:37:13,150 --> 00:37:15,489
an Irish a woman in in this country

1011
00:37:15,785 --> 00:37:18,265
whose name was Bridey Murphy, and she claimed

1012
00:37:18,265 --> 00:37:19,405
that she was reincarnated.

1013
00:37:19,704 --> 00:37:20,765
And she talked about

1014
00:37:21,305 --> 00:37:24,445
her family in Ireland, etcetera, etcetera. Well, supposedly,

1015
00:37:25,864 --> 00:37:26,605
she went

1016
00:37:26,985 --> 00:37:29,864
to the village that she remembered and met

1017
00:37:29,864 --> 00:37:31,005
her adult children,

1018
00:37:32,829 --> 00:37:33,329
who

1019
00:37:33,949 --> 00:37:34,449
who

1020
00:37:34,829 --> 00:37:36,750
remembered her. And so there was all this

1021
00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:39,150
big flap to say, you know, she she

1022
00:37:39,150 --> 00:37:40,609
was immediately reincarnated

1023
00:37:40,909 --> 00:37:43,250
so that when she was coming along,

1024
00:37:43,869 --> 00:37:45,630
she had children who were older than her,

1025
00:37:45,630 --> 00:37:47,414
obviously, but they were still alive.

1026
00:37:47,974 --> 00:37:50,175
And so it was, it was very interesting.

1027
00:37:50,175 --> 00:37:51,434
It was a big splash.

1028
00:37:53,655 --> 00:37:55,894
But getting getting back to trying to tie

1029
00:37:55,894 --> 00:37:56,875
this in somehow,

1030
00:37:57,335 --> 00:37:59,255
there are so many things that we don't

1031
00:37:59,255 --> 00:38:01,569
understand and we don't know about. And you

1032
00:38:01,569 --> 00:38:03,489
can call people crazy. You can call them

1033
00:38:03,489 --> 00:38:06,049
evolved. You can call them Neanderthal that they

1034
00:38:06,049 --> 00:38:07,429
haven't evolved at all.

1035
00:38:07,969 --> 00:38:10,069
But but the universe is probably

1036
00:38:10,369 --> 00:38:12,690
filled with things that we don't understand anything

1037
00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:15,349
about. And I don't doubt that there are

1038
00:38:15,835 --> 00:38:18,635
so called flying saucers or people who Well,

1039
00:38:18,635 --> 00:38:21,114
life outside of our Yeah. And and I

1040
00:38:21,114 --> 00:38:23,355
don't know why they're here if they don't

1041
00:38:23,355 --> 00:38:25,755
make themselves better known. Why do they they

1042
00:38:25,755 --> 00:38:27,594
don't come and say, hey. You guys get

1043
00:38:27,594 --> 00:38:28,494
your act together.

1044
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,360
Maybe they're not supposed to intrude. They're not

1045
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,920
supposed to interfere. Yeah. So what's their point?

1046
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,260
What why are they here if they can't

1047
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,719
interact and say, look, we've learned this, and

1048
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,199
so let us pass along some information to

1049
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:42,260
you guys. You know?

1050
00:38:42,675 --> 00:38:45,795
I think in my belief system that you're

1051
00:38:45,795 --> 00:38:48,195
telling the the truth. I think this is

1052
00:38:48,195 --> 00:38:49,494
true, that they are

1053
00:38:49,875 --> 00:38:53,155
observing us, and they are here to watch

1054
00:38:53,155 --> 00:38:55,555
to make sure that we don't blow ourselves

1055
00:38:55,555 --> 00:38:56,215
up again.

1056
00:38:56,610 --> 00:38:58,769
And if we do, then they're here to

1057
00:38:58,769 --> 00:39:00,470
come back and help us rebuild

1058
00:39:01,490 --> 00:39:03,750
from the from the Neanderthal

1059
00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:04,550
days,

1060
00:39:05,090 --> 00:39:07,329
and which we I think we've done over

1061
00:39:07,329 --> 00:39:09,329
and over and over and over again. Does

1062
00:39:09,329 --> 00:39:11,030
that help to explain

1063
00:39:11,329 --> 00:39:11,829
why

1064
00:39:12,355 --> 00:39:14,434
you can dig down so many feet and

1065
00:39:14,434 --> 00:39:16,755
discover a whole new town under an old

1066
00:39:16,755 --> 00:39:19,074
natural town? That does. You know? Why did

1067
00:39:19,074 --> 00:39:20,695
they cover it up in the first place?

1068
00:39:20,835 --> 00:39:24,135
Oh, because people knew civilizations. They conquer civilization.

1069
00:39:24,355 --> 00:39:26,849
They automatically build their temples on top of

1070
00:39:26,849 --> 00:39:28,949
the old civilization. That's what they do

1071
00:39:29,809 --> 00:39:31,109
when they conquer a civilization.

1072
00:39:31,409 --> 00:39:34,289
I mean, we're conquering human beings. Why why

1073
00:39:34,289 --> 00:39:36,130
bury it and then build it? Because they

1074
00:39:36,130 --> 00:39:38,449
don't want any record of it because they

1075
00:39:38,449 --> 00:39:41,864
conquered that civilization. Ah, okay. That civilization was

1076
00:39:43,065 --> 00:39:45,385
sub subhuman subhuman to them. I went to

1077
00:39:45,385 --> 00:39:47,465
Germany several years ago, and I didn't see

1078
00:39:47,465 --> 00:39:48,985
any of it buried. It was all just

1079
00:39:48,985 --> 00:39:50,744
sitting out there. Oh. Some of it still

1080
00:39:50,744 --> 00:39:52,684
had bullet holes in it. What? Now

1081
00:39:53,224 --> 00:39:55,465
haven't now haven't you ever seen I'm sorry?

1082
00:39:55,465 --> 00:39:56,340
What did you see?

1083
00:39:57,059 --> 00:39:59,219
Some of the the the buildings had still

1084
00:39:59,219 --> 00:40:01,460
had both holes. Yes. But there's no yes.

1085
00:40:01,460 --> 00:40:04,059
But we're talking ancient civilizations that have been

1086
00:40:04,180 --> 00:40:06,019
Get with the background. Built on top of

1087
00:40:06,019 --> 00:40:08,900
each other. All the all of the, Toltec

1088
00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:09,400
civilizations

1089
00:40:10,224 --> 00:40:12,625
were built on top of by the Mayans

1090
00:40:12,625 --> 00:40:14,545
who built on and then those were built

1091
00:40:14,545 --> 00:40:16,085
on top of by the Aztecs.

1092
00:40:16,864 --> 00:40:18,944
So you can dig down and find all

1093
00:40:18,944 --> 00:40:20,784
those old civilizations. Do you get my point?

1094
00:40:20,784 --> 00:40:22,545
I mean, let's just just Yeah. To be

1095
00:40:22,545 --> 00:40:24,804
logical. So they cover it up somehow

1096
00:40:25,309 --> 00:40:26,130
or it gets buried

1097
00:40:26,590 --> 00:40:29,329
on top of it. An earthquake sinks it

1098
00:40:29,710 --> 00:40:32,030
or somehow it gets buried and then has

1099
00:40:32,030 --> 00:40:33,630
to be uncovered. That's the part that I

1100
00:40:33,630 --> 00:40:34,289
don't get.

1101
00:40:34,909 --> 00:40:38,349
Why why if if somebody conquers let's say

1102
00:40:38,349 --> 00:40:40,744
that somebody comes in and wipes out all

1103
00:40:40,744 --> 00:40:42,585
the people, the buildings and everything is still

1104
00:40:42,585 --> 00:40:43,085
there,

1105
00:40:43,465 --> 00:40:44,445
then what happens?

1106
00:40:44,825 --> 00:40:47,065
They'll demolish the building and build on top

1107
00:40:47,065 --> 00:40:48,285
of the the foundation.

1108
00:40:48,825 --> 00:40:49,325
Why?

1109
00:40:49,864 --> 00:40:51,869
Because they don't want any trace of that

1110
00:40:52,030 --> 00:40:53,710
civilization. It just seems to Do you do

1111
00:40:53,710 --> 00:40:55,630
you remember when back in the in the

1112
00:40:55,630 --> 00:40:57,730
Iraq war days, do you remember that,

1113
00:40:58,269 --> 00:41:00,990
they came in, I don't know, ISIS or

1114
00:41:00,990 --> 00:41:02,945
somebody came in and destroyed this They destroyed

1115
00:41:02,945 --> 00:41:03,670
all of this

1116
00:41:04,430 --> 00:41:06,590
all of this artwork. Precious art. Yeah. All

1117
00:41:06,590 --> 00:41:09,335
of that precious destroy destroy the whole the

1118
00:41:09,335 --> 00:41:10,155
whole civilization.

1119
00:41:11,414 --> 00:41:14,074
Anyway, that's that's another sense. But it's

1120
00:41:14,454 --> 00:41:15,355
really partly

1121
00:41:16,054 --> 00:41:18,214
geologic things as if things get buried. I

1122
00:41:18,214 --> 00:41:21,610
mean, geologic time. Mhmm. You know? Yeah. Over

1123
00:41:21,610 --> 00:41:23,289
millennia. Well, like this the,

1124
00:41:23,769 --> 00:41:26,429
sphinx being covered with sand. Mhmm.

1125
00:41:26,730 --> 00:41:29,130
Yeah. The wind. And then they say, oh,

1126
00:41:29,130 --> 00:41:31,130
no. It was really an ocean. That was

1127
00:41:31,130 --> 00:41:33,704
what the water that eroded that. So we

1128
00:41:33,864 --> 00:41:35,385
what do we know? What do you know?

1129
00:41:35,385 --> 00:41:36,905
Well, what do we know? What do we

1130
00:41:36,905 --> 00:41:39,005
have? We have another text. Good.

1131
00:41:39,864 --> 00:41:41,805
And here it is. Thank you, texter.

1132
00:41:42,344 --> 00:41:46,285
Stanford professor doctor Gary Nolan works under contract

1133
00:41:46,505 --> 00:41:47,805
from the US government

1134
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:48,980
to investigate

1135
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,139
physical effects on military and state department personnel

1136
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:56,820
of close exposure to alien technology.

1137
00:41:57,679 --> 00:41:58,179
Nolan

1138
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,619
strongly criticized

1139
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,860
Neil deGrasse Tyson's approach

1140
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,619
to discussing UFOs.

1141
00:42:04,335 --> 00:42:07,394
He argued that Tyson's ridicule of the topic

1142
00:42:08,014 --> 00:42:11,155
discourages people from coming forward with their experiences.

1143
00:42:12,094 --> 00:42:15,715
Nolan emphasized the trauma experienced by witnesses

1144
00:42:16,349 --> 00:42:17,730
who face disbelief

1145
00:42:18,349 --> 00:42:19,090
and mockery.

1146
00:42:19,869 --> 00:42:22,190
And that was another thank you for that.

1147
00:42:22,190 --> 00:42:24,530
And that was another part of the documentary,

1148
00:42:24,670 --> 00:42:25,570
Age of Disclosure,

1149
00:42:26,030 --> 00:42:28,670
about how some of these people that wanted

1150
00:42:28,670 --> 00:42:29,890
a lot of this information

1151
00:42:30,190 --> 00:42:31,170
out to the

1152
00:42:31,644 --> 00:42:32,144
public.

1153
00:42:32,684 --> 00:42:35,405
Mhmm. Well, we mustn't we mustn't scare the

1154
00:42:35,405 --> 00:42:37,805
children, I think, is what it boils down

1155
00:42:37,805 --> 00:42:39,805
to. Don't tell people because it'll freak them

1156
00:42:39,805 --> 00:42:41,644
out. Well, but again wait a minute. I

1157
00:42:41,644 --> 00:42:43,005
was told all the time I had to

1158
00:42:43,005 --> 00:42:43,905
duck and cover.

1159
00:42:44,780 --> 00:42:46,219
Couple of times a year, we had a

1160
00:42:46,219 --> 00:42:46,940
duck under the

1161
00:42:47,579 --> 00:42:50,780
nobody's worried about scaring me. But but but

1162
00:42:50,780 --> 00:42:52,780
to his point to his point, I think

1163
00:42:52,780 --> 00:42:54,639
people are afraid to become whistleblowers,

1164
00:42:55,659 --> 00:42:57,679
because they might be ridiculed.

1165
00:42:58,635 --> 00:43:00,635
They might be ridiculed if they tell a

1166
00:43:00,635 --> 00:43:03,755
story about an abduction experience that they believe

1167
00:43:03,755 --> 00:43:04,574
was real,

1168
00:43:04,954 --> 00:43:06,494
and perhaps it was.

1169
00:43:07,195 --> 00:43:10,074
So that is a negative effect on that's

1170
00:43:10,074 --> 00:43:10,574
that's

1171
00:43:11,114 --> 00:43:12,494
trying to subvert

1172
00:43:13,369 --> 00:43:16,650
any knowledge coming out. Skeptic society has a

1173
00:43:16,650 --> 00:43:19,449
pretty good explanation for people that were abducted

1174
00:43:19,449 --> 00:43:22,030
and then returned What? During the night about

1175
00:43:22,570 --> 00:43:23,309
oh, there's

1176
00:43:24,250 --> 00:43:26,184
a thing they call I don't know. You

1177
00:43:26,184 --> 00:43:28,505
you get you're paralyzed and you can't move.

1178
00:43:28,505 --> 00:43:30,844
Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. And Sleep apnea?

1179
00:43:31,545 --> 00:43:33,545
Kinda like a sleep apnea, I guess. And

1180
00:43:33,545 --> 00:43:34,125
it'd be,

1181
00:43:35,144 --> 00:43:37,545
it's easy to be subjected to all this

1182
00:43:37,545 --> 00:43:40,204
stuff. Mhmm. Well, and back to the previous

1183
00:43:40,469 --> 00:43:42,710
Texas point too in the documentary is that

1184
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:45,510
some of these very credible and believable and

1185
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:46,650
high ranking people

1186
00:43:47,269 --> 00:43:48,730
were subject to,

1187
00:43:50,389 --> 00:43:50,889
being

1188
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:54,255
Ridiculous. Not just mocked and ridiculed, but being

1189
00:43:54,255 --> 00:43:56,974
under investigation and told they better keep quiet.

1190
00:43:56,974 --> 00:43:59,474
Yeah. Oh, this is true. Yeah. Again,

1191
00:43:59,855 --> 00:44:02,815
you'll I I encourage and urge people to

1192
00:44:02,815 --> 00:44:04,755
to see it. Well, there are supposedly

1193
00:44:05,054 --> 00:44:06,594
people who witnessed the Kennedy

1194
00:44:07,460 --> 00:44:09,940
assassination. The FBI came by and said, we'll

1195
00:44:09,940 --> 00:44:11,779
kill you if you tell it. Yeah. Well,

1196
00:44:11,779 --> 00:44:12,279
they're

1197
00:44:12,579 --> 00:44:14,980
And and that's our FBI too. You know?

1198
00:44:14,980 --> 00:44:16,359
It has a long history

1199
00:44:16,980 --> 00:44:17,299
of of,

1200
00:44:18,179 --> 00:44:20,355
trying to subvert information.

1201
00:44:20,655 --> 00:44:22,094
I think they could be a little more

1202
00:44:22,094 --> 00:44:24,575
subtle than that and say, you tell anybody,

1203
00:44:24,575 --> 00:44:26,575
we'll kill you. I mean, that's something that's

1204
00:44:26,575 --> 00:44:28,594
something Tony Soprano would have done.

1205
00:44:28,894 --> 00:44:30,894
I do. I hope the FBI is at

1206
00:44:30,894 --> 00:44:31,954
least as as

1207
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,360
Okay. And we also had another text. Oh

1208
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,360
my goodness. So here we go. Thank you.

1209
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,019
That says the prime directive,

1210
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,019
Starfleet General Order, number one, is a fundamental

1211
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,619
Star Trek regulation

1212
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,539
prohibiting interference

1213
00:44:47,054 --> 00:44:49,875
in the natural development of alien civilizations,

1214
00:44:51,054 --> 00:44:52,594
particularly pre warp

1215
00:44:52,974 --> 00:44:53,474
societies.

1216
00:44:54,655 --> 00:44:57,214
Don't quite understand, but it goes on, it

1217
00:44:57,214 --> 00:44:59,315
forbid sharing advanced technology,

1218
00:45:00,230 --> 00:45:04,409
revealing Starfleet's presence or altering a culture's internal

1219
00:45:04,469 --> 00:45:04,969
evolution,

1220
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:07,289
aiming to protect societal

1221
00:45:07,829 --> 00:45:09,690
autonomy and avoid contamination.

1222
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:12,150
Now that sounds like my friend Danny. Is

1223
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:14,355
that who texted them? Know. That,

1224
00:45:15,375 --> 00:45:17,135
that's pretty deep. Yeah. Thank you. That sounds

1225
00:45:17,135 --> 00:45:19,855
like Danny. Well, that's that's directly from Star

1226
00:45:19,855 --> 00:45:22,255
Trek The Next Generation, which I used to

1227
00:45:22,255 --> 00:45:24,355
watch all the time. And and

1228
00:45:24,815 --> 00:45:26,894
that that makes a lot of sense too.

1229
00:45:26,894 --> 00:45:27,635
They're forbidden.

1230
00:45:28,269 --> 00:45:30,369
It's a part of the directive. They're forbidden

1231
00:45:30,430 --> 00:45:30,930
to

1232
00:45:31,230 --> 00:45:32,130
from interfering

1233
00:45:32,829 --> 00:45:33,390
Yeah. With,

1234
00:45:34,750 --> 00:45:37,730
a lower technology. Who's who has received

1235
00:45:38,349 --> 00:45:38,849
this?

1236
00:45:39,150 --> 00:45:40,829
I don't know. I said it sounded like

1237
00:45:40,829 --> 00:45:42,985
Danny. I don't know. Did it did it

1238
00:45:42,985 --> 00:45:45,224
say who texted it? Who your good number.

1239
00:45:45,224 --> 00:45:47,545
Who's been forbid forbidden to do this? We

1240
00:45:47,545 --> 00:45:51,144
have. By who? By the the the more

1241
00:45:51,144 --> 00:45:54,425
advanced beings who are coming into a different

1242
00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:56,579
come around and told people that? Or or,

1243
00:45:56,900 --> 00:45:58,579
I know. You had to go read their

1244
00:45:58,579 --> 00:45:59,079
directive.

1245
00:46:00,820 --> 00:46:02,739
You had to read? You had to read

1246
00:46:02,739 --> 00:46:03,480
the manual.

1247
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:06,920
Oh, who gets the manual? They do.

1248
00:46:09,375 --> 00:46:10,974
I haven't even read the manual for my

1249
00:46:10,974 --> 00:46:13,375
car. I'm not gonna I can't yeah. I'm

1250
00:46:13,375 --> 00:46:14,894
I'm with you. And along with what I

1251
00:46:14,894 --> 00:46:16,574
said earlier about some of these, you know,

1252
00:46:16,574 --> 00:46:18,195
incredible people, if you will,

1253
00:46:18,655 --> 00:46:20,414
just and being told to shut up, they

1254
00:46:20,414 --> 00:46:22,670
were also victims of the

1255
00:46:23,449 --> 00:46:26,589
government and military, I suppose Yeah. Smear campaigns

1256
00:46:26,809 --> 00:46:29,469
against them. Oh. Yes. And they Because of

1257
00:46:30,089 --> 00:46:31,929
they were afraid of what they were they

1258
00:46:31,929 --> 00:46:34,409
might say or what they might tell. So

1259
00:46:34,409 --> 00:46:36,909
you're saying they were subjected to fake news?

1260
00:46:37,695 --> 00:46:39,875
Well, we all Aren't we all?

1261
00:46:40,414 --> 00:46:42,575
The enemy of the people is

1262
00:46:43,454 --> 00:46:43,954
Mhmm.

1263
00:46:44,255 --> 00:46:45,394
Yeah. The media.

1264
00:46:45,695 --> 00:46:46,355
You know,

1265
00:46:46,815 --> 00:46:47,055
this

1266
00:46:47,695 --> 00:46:49,795
and and isn't it isn't it

1267
00:46:50,974 --> 00:46:51,954
a sad commentary

1268
00:46:52,730 --> 00:46:53,230
on

1269
00:46:53,609 --> 00:46:55,789
us that that we are susceptible

1270
00:46:56,250 --> 00:46:56,750
to

1271
00:46:57,289 --> 00:47:00,010
so much fake news now that we kind

1272
00:47:00,010 --> 00:47:02,889
of some of us, some not I. Some

1273
00:47:02,889 --> 00:47:05,690
people tune out entirely because they say, I

1274
00:47:05,690 --> 00:47:06,909
don't know what to believe,

1275
00:47:07,215 --> 00:47:09,135
so I'm not gonna believe anything. Well, that's

1276
00:47:09,135 --> 00:47:10,974
the plan. And that is the part of

1277
00:47:10,974 --> 00:47:12,655
the plan. That's the part of the plan.

1278
00:47:12,655 --> 00:47:15,614
Yeah. Yeah. Keep everybody confused. Yeah. Yeah. And

1279
00:47:15,614 --> 00:47:17,375
that's the 1984

1280
00:47:17,375 --> 00:47:19,695
directive if you read 1984.

1281
00:47:19,695 --> 00:47:20,515
We are living

1282
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:22,239
in 1984.

1283
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,579
And we're well beyond 1984.

1284
00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:25,139
Yeah.

1285
00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:28,079
Man. Things things slowed down during COVID. So

1286
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:28,739
Yeah.

1287
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,859
But, also, things recycle.

1288
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,539
The these these,

1289
00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:36,099
these threats

1290
00:47:36,454 --> 00:47:36,934
and,

1291
00:47:37,414 --> 00:47:37,914
admissions

1292
00:47:38,295 --> 00:47:40,614
and people coming out, there have been an

1293
00:47:40,614 --> 00:47:42,635
awful lot of people who have come out,

1294
00:47:42,934 --> 00:47:45,034
oh, since '19 the forties,

1295
00:47:45,335 --> 00:47:47,594
who have come out and and documented

1296
00:47:47,894 --> 00:47:50,635
their experiences. Whether or not they were threatened,

1297
00:47:51,329 --> 00:47:51,829
they

1298
00:47:52,610 --> 00:47:54,289
have gone ahead and come out. There was

1299
00:47:54,289 --> 00:47:56,050
an awful lot of people went to Jonesville

1300
00:47:56,050 --> 00:47:57,809
and things like that too. So you can't

1301
00:47:57,809 --> 00:47:59,430
go by the all amount of people. That's

1302
00:47:59,809 --> 00:48:01,570
what I meant about, you know, people not

1303
00:48:01,570 --> 00:48:04,369
believing anything. So they they choose not to

1304
00:48:04,974 --> 00:48:06,914
Well, I think that's one of the dangers

1305
00:48:07,054 --> 00:48:09,954
is that that somebody who is very charismatic

1306
00:48:10,094 --> 00:48:11,074
and has a

1307
00:48:11,855 --> 00:48:14,494
decision like those people that said, well, we're

1308
00:48:14,494 --> 00:48:16,815
all gonna go and and live on another

1309
00:48:16,815 --> 00:48:19,420
planet at this particular date, so we'll take

1310
00:48:19,420 --> 00:48:21,179
the poison and die. And then we'll You

1311
00:48:21,179 --> 00:48:23,420
know? I mean, it's it's put it on

1312
00:48:23,420 --> 00:48:24,980
our star shoots. Oh, I Yeah. It's not

1313
00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:27,659
I think there's an another coming up, end

1314
00:48:27,659 --> 00:48:29,360
of the Earth thing. Isn't there?

1315
00:48:29,820 --> 00:48:32,204
Probably. I think it might be this month.

1316
00:48:32,364 --> 00:48:35,164
Probably. Hell, go down. Now now you're gonna

1317
00:48:35,164 --> 00:48:37,664
tell us when it is and No. Just

1318
00:48:37,805 --> 00:48:41,265
infect the entire population with your your prediction?

1319
00:48:41,885 --> 00:48:44,364
I I no. I wish I wish it

1320
00:48:44,364 --> 00:48:46,204
were true, and I wish I knew it

1321
00:48:46,204 --> 00:48:46,864
were true.

1322
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,679
So I could stop doing all the damn

1323
00:48:48,679 --> 00:48:50,139
work I'm doing. I could just

1324
00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:52,119
sometimes I get up in the morning and

1325
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:54,199
I can't get off the couch watching television.

1326
00:48:54,199 --> 00:48:56,679
Just relax. Because we're 81. Gonna be okay.

1327
00:48:56,679 --> 00:48:58,599
As soon as we get to be our

1328
00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:01,099
age, we're we're all stuck on the couch.

1329
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:01,819
Yeah. Okay.

1330
00:49:02,525 --> 00:49:03,265
Our age.

1331
00:49:03,965 --> 00:49:05,485
Yeah, the trouble is I went from the

1332
00:49:05,485 --> 00:49:08,125
couch to the computer, and now I'm addicted

1333
00:49:08,125 --> 00:49:08,864
to YouTube.

1334
00:49:09,325 --> 00:49:11,724
Oh, it's not that bad. That could be

1335
00:49:11,724 --> 00:49:14,125
so bad. Yeah. We have to be careful.

1336
00:49:14,125 --> 00:49:15,585
Yeah, I do the same thing.

1337
00:49:16,029 --> 00:49:18,909
There's some there's some wonderful YouTubers on now,

1338
00:49:18,909 --> 00:49:21,789
though. Now, I'm getting off the topic. I

1339
00:49:21,789 --> 00:49:22,929
don't know.

1340
00:49:23,549 --> 00:49:26,509
I don't know anything about this subject. I

1341
00:49:26,509 --> 00:49:28,449
just have a belief system

1342
00:49:29,664 --> 00:49:32,464
that the the people who are come people

1343
00:49:32,464 --> 00:49:34,644
or aliens who are coming to visit us

1344
00:49:34,864 --> 00:49:38,144
are observing us because they are trying to

1345
00:49:38,144 --> 00:49:40,944
prevent us from blowing ourselves up against Why

1346
00:49:40,944 --> 00:49:43,920
do they care? But Because they are us.

1347
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,539
We are them.

1348
00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:48,639
But if Oh, I'll get you now. Future.

1349
00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:49,893
It all makes sense to me. It's just

1350
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:50,579
Is it

1351
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:51,940
clear as

1352
00:49:52,319 --> 00:49:54,639
a clear as a bell? But but, Billy,

1353
00:49:54,639 --> 00:49:56,355
if if that's if that's

1354
00:49:57,315 --> 00:49:59,094
true, then they're not interacting

1355
00:49:59,954 --> 00:50:02,275
with very many of us at all. If

1356
00:50:02,275 --> 00:50:04,755
they're if that's their mission to them. They're

1357
00:50:04,755 --> 00:50:05,255
they're

1358
00:50:05,875 --> 00:50:07,635
they're putting it right into your brain. They

1359
00:50:07,635 --> 00:50:09,309
don't have to come in and talk to

1360
00:50:09,309 --> 00:50:10,989
them. Write a song about it or anything.

1361
00:50:10,989 --> 00:50:12,670
See, I don't know why certain people are

1362
00:50:12,670 --> 00:50:15,150
visited and certain people aren't. My friend, Danny,

1363
00:50:15,150 --> 00:50:17,230
has been visited many times, and I have

1364
00:50:17,230 --> 00:50:18,289
never been. So

1365
00:50:18,670 --> 00:50:20,429
I don't know the difference. How Oh, you?

1366
00:50:20,429 --> 00:50:22,210
I You really don't know.

1367
00:50:22,835 --> 00:50:23,954
No. You don't know. I think that's a

1368
00:50:23,954 --> 00:50:26,594
lot of what's going on. We don't know.

1369
00:50:26,594 --> 00:50:27,815
Yeah. We don't know. Mhmm.

1370
00:50:28,114 --> 00:50:30,355
Well, I think there are people who are

1371
00:50:30,355 --> 00:50:31,894
more in tune. For example,

1372
00:50:33,234 --> 00:50:34,295
people who are,

1373
00:50:35,554 --> 00:50:38,280
able to predict or people who who can,

1374
00:50:39,159 --> 00:50:41,420
say, sit behind a wall and and

1375
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,719
see what's on the other side of the

1376
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,820
wall. Like, you know, they're they're somehow

1377
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:46,780
telepathically

1378
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,559
able to communicate. Mhmm. All all of that

1379
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:51,260
is part of being human,

1380
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:52,380
I think,

1381
00:50:52,724 --> 00:50:54,184
but to certain degrees.

1382
00:50:54,644 --> 00:50:56,805
And maybe we block out a lot of

1383
00:50:56,805 --> 00:50:59,605
things. Maybe we don't wanna learn certain things

1384
00:50:59,605 --> 00:51:01,065
because they scare us or,

1385
00:51:01,605 --> 00:51:03,525
you know, there there's a lot that goes

1386
00:51:03,525 --> 00:51:05,845
on in society that says don't go there.

1387
00:51:05,845 --> 00:51:07,630
Don't think this way. Don't act this way.

1388
00:51:07,630 --> 00:51:09,170
Don't do this. Don't do that.

1389
00:51:09,550 --> 00:51:11,809
And conform conform to certain

1390
00:51:12,750 --> 00:51:15,150
rules and and regulations. So it's Part of

1391
00:51:15,150 --> 00:51:17,389
that is built into our society. So it's

1392
00:51:17,389 --> 00:51:18,449
sort of a self

1393
00:51:18,750 --> 00:51:19,250
self,

1394
00:51:19,630 --> 00:51:21,469
shield that we put on. And if we

1395
00:51:21,469 --> 00:51:24,315
open ourselves up, then and we feel like

1396
00:51:24,315 --> 00:51:27,215
we want to receive more, maybe we will.

1397
00:51:27,434 --> 00:51:29,454
I don't know. Well, I've had some

1398
00:51:29,835 --> 00:51:33,114
very strong psychic experiences that were extremely Oh,

1399
00:51:33,114 --> 00:51:35,514
I have to. Absolutely real to me. And

1400
00:51:35,514 --> 00:51:37,594
if I say that to some people, they'll

1401
00:51:37,594 --> 00:51:39,710
go, well, you know, the brain does funny

1402
00:51:39,710 --> 00:51:40,210
things.

1403
00:51:40,829 --> 00:51:42,750
And, you know, those people who claim that

1404
00:51:42,750 --> 00:51:45,070
they die and on the operating table and

1405
00:51:45,070 --> 00:51:46,829
then they come back, well, the brain just

1406
00:51:46,829 --> 00:51:48,909
does funny things. You know? That's the brain.

1407
00:51:48,909 --> 00:51:51,585
That didn't really happen yet. So I think

1408
00:51:51,585 --> 00:51:53,824
I think the experiences that we've had, I've

1409
00:51:53,824 --> 00:51:56,085
had some too. Mine usually come in dreams,

1410
00:51:56,144 --> 00:51:58,304
and then they're prescient dreams and they come

1411
00:51:58,304 --> 00:52:00,784
true when I wake up. But I I

1412
00:52:00,784 --> 00:52:02,405
think those sorts of things,

1413
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,260
because you're you're an open minded person,

1414
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,820
you are more receptive to

1415
00:52:08,199 --> 00:52:08,699
receiving.

1416
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,140
Which, again,

1417
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,739
says begs the question, are we the only

1418
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,760
dimension that we're aware of? Yeah. Is there

1419
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,824
something else going on? You know, if there

1420
00:52:18,824 --> 00:52:20,905
is now here's a whole other subject. But

1421
00:52:20,905 --> 00:52:23,484
if there if there is a soul

1422
00:52:24,025 --> 00:52:26,585
that Mhmm. Lives on after the body is

1423
00:52:26,585 --> 00:52:27,085
is

1424
00:52:28,184 --> 00:52:29,565
died, so to speak

1425
00:52:30,344 --> 00:52:31,965
Energy died. Yeah.

1426
00:52:33,170 --> 00:52:36,230
Yeah. Does does that energy, whatever that is,

1427
00:52:36,450 --> 00:52:38,710
to then take up another form? Does it

1428
00:52:39,570 --> 00:52:42,530
go off of a Mhmm. Kazillion years in

1429
00:52:42,930 --> 00:52:45,410
Into the future. Yeah. And and come back

1430
00:52:45,410 --> 00:52:47,714
and go, hello there. Or just through me,

1431
00:52:47,714 --> 00:52:49,954
but I'm here. Or just into another dimension

1432
00:52:49,954 --> 00:52:52,275
or another parallel universe. Yeah. So that yeah.

1433
00:52:52,275 --> 00:52:54,275
Yeah. That's a hope. Good questions. I think

1434
00:52:54,275 --> 00:52:56,934
that's all sort of related to the unknowns.

1435
00:52:57,394 --> 00:52:58,134
The unknowns

1436
00:52:58,434 --> 00:52:58,934
are

1437
00:52:59,609 --> 00:53:01,929
incorporated into this subject of, is there such

1438
00:53:01,929 --> 00:53:03,949
a thing as a UFO? Yes. There is.

1439
00:53:04,089 --> 00:53:06,170
It's unidentified. We don't know what it is.

1440
00:53:06,170 --> 00:53:08,569
That's the whole point. Well, you pay pee

1441
00:53:08,569 --> 00:53:11,289
now. Unidentified. I think they're both the They're

1442
00:53:11,289 --> 00:53:13,230
they're the same, but they've renamed it

1443
00:53:13,965 --> 00:53:14,945
to unidentified

1444
00:53:15,325 --> 00:53:15,825
phenomena.

1445
00:53:17,005 --> 00:53:18,385
Aerial phenomenon. Yeah.

1446
00:53:18,844 --> 00:53:21,265
So let's go back to that. So

1447
00:53:21,644 --> 00:53:22,144
hypothetically

1448
00:53:22,605 --> 00:53:23,905
well, not even hypothetically.

1449
00:53:24,445 --> 00:53:25,744
This is what I do believe,

1450
00:53:26,364 --> 00:53:28,704
especially after watching that documentary.

1451
00:53:30,110 --> 00:53:33,070
I I do believe that there could certainly

1452
00:53:33,070 --> 00:53:35,570
be a government military cover up

1453
00:53:37,550 --> 00:53:40,369
that that they wanna keep the general public

1454
00:53:40,750 --> 00:53:41,250
unaware

1455
00:53:41,630 --> 00:53:43,390
of some of this stuff. Now whether it's

1456
00:53:43,390 --> 00:53:43,890
for

1457
00:53:44,324 --> 00:53:45,625
their own protection

1458
00:53:46,005 --> 00:53:46,505
or

1459
00:53:46,885 --> 00:53:48,724
I don't know about not wanting to scare

1460
00:53:48,724 --> 00:53:50,964
the public. I think the public generally would

1461
00:53:50,964 --> 00:53:52,105
want to know, hey.

1462
00:53:52,405 --> 00:53:55,605
We did find this, and this is real

1463
00:53:55,605 --> 00:53:56,344
or true.

1464
00:53:57,045 --> 00:53:59,289
And they swore not to tell anybody. And

1465
00:53:59,289 --> 00:54:00,889
it was a pinky swear, so they can't

1466
00:54:00,969 --> 00:54:02,029
Well, if you

1467
00:54:02,409 --> 00:54:04,889
if it's a pinky swear, then that's that's

1468
00:54:04,889 --> 00:54:07,130
it. They will never tell. Well, I I

1469
00:54:07,130 --> 00:54:09,389
like bringing it back around to that documentary

1470
00:54:09,529 --> 00:54:12,109
because that's one I think everybody should should

1471
00:54:12,170 --> 00:54:14,670
probably watch if they're interested in the topic.

1472
00:54:14,885 --> 00:54:15,944
Yeah. I I had

1473
00:54:16,244 --> 00:54:17,844
we had hoped we were all gonna try

1474
00:54:17,844 --> 00:54:19,525
to watch it together. It just didn't come.

1475
00:54:19,525 --> 00:54:21,944
It didn't happen. But that's okay. That's okay.

1476
00:54:22,804 --> 00:54:25,684
But I think that to your point about

1477
00:54:25,684 --> 00:54:28,530
not wanting people to know or or there

1478
00:54:28,530 --> 00:54:31,010
there are people who will take an idea

1479
00:54:31,010 --> 00:54:32,690
like that and run with it off into

1480
00:54:32,690 --> 00:54:33,670
all kinds of crazy

1481
00:54:34,289 --> 00:54:34,789
directions.

1482
00:54:35,170 --> 00:54:37,269
Yeah. Think? And get yeah. Right.

1483
00:54:37,890 --> 00:54:41,010
And and get terribly frightened or or who

1484
00:54:41,010 --> 00:54:42,070
knows what. But

1485
00:54:42,585 --> 00:54:45,005
if it's some if it's something that is,

1486
00:54:45,385 --> 00:54:46,764
pardon the expression, natural,

1487
00:54:47,704 --> 00:54:48,204
normal

1488
00:54:48,664 --> 00:54:52,364
Mhmm. Another kind of energy, another way of

1489
00:54:52,425 --> 00:54:52,925
identifying

1490
00:54:53,304 --> 00:54:53,804
energy.

1491
00:54:55,260 --> 00:54:58,640
Another source. And yeah. Another aware of. Yeah.

1492
00:54:58,780 --> 00:54:59,280
So

1493
00:54:59,579 --> 00:55:02,300
it's frightening simply because we don't understand it.

1494
00:55:02,300 --> 00:55:04,059
It makes us afraid because we don't know

1495
00:55:04,059 --> 00:55:06,539
what it's gonna do. Some people. And and

1496
00:55:06,539 --> 00:55:08,614
so it's, you know, it's it's

1497
00:55:08,914 --> 00:55:11,015
But isn't that rather paternalistic

1498
00:55:11,474 --> 00:55:14,534
to think that Absolutely. We, you little you

1499
00:55:14,675 --> 00:55:17,315
little person, you can't understand it. So you're

1500
00:55:17,315 --> 00:55:20,275
not highly evolved. You're not educated enough to

1501
00:55:20,275 --> 00:55:22,650
understand this. So we can't tell. That's a

1502
00:55:22,650 --> 00:55:23,590
very misogynistic

1503
00:55:24,130 --> 00:55:26,690
way looking at that. Children. Really? Scard the

1504
00:55:26,690 --> 00:55:29,250
children. Yeah. If Trump knew about it, he

1505
00:55:29,250 --> 00:55:29,989
would tell us,

1506
00:55:31,170 --> 00:55:33,090
wait a minute. He would blame blame it

1507
00:55:33,090 --> 00:55:35,329
on Obama and Biden. Oh, there you go.

1508
00:55:35,410 --> 00:55:36,949
Open borders let those

1509
00:55:37,734 --> 00:55:38,234
beings

1510
00:55:38,934 --> 00:55:40,775
in. But he's gonna get ice after them

1511
00:55:40,855 --> 00:55:43,034
right after the the rapists and the murderers.

1512
00:55:44,135 --> 00:55:47,094
Oh, my word. Yes. Well, we weren't gonna

1513
00:55:47,094 --> 00:55:49,034
get on to that topic, Ray.

1514
00:55:49,940 --> 00:55:52,099
But but it all does boil down to

1515
00:55:52,099 --> 00:55:53,960
whether or not we are open to

1516
00:55:54,420 --> 00:55:56,360
thinking that there's something beyond

1517
00:55:57,300 --> 00:55:58,579
us. Mhmm. Something beyond

1518
00:55:59,140 --> 00:55:59,960
now I

1519
00:56:00,500 --> 00:56:03,559
I could briefly get into the idea of

1520
00:56:03,804 --> 00:56:05,804
why we wanna go to Mars, why we

1521
00:56:05,804 --> 00:56:07,244
wanna go to the moon, why we wanna

1522
00:56:07,244 --> 00:56:09,164
go anywhere, why do we wanna explore the

1523
00:56:09,164 --> 00:56:12,684
universe. Well, we're not all going. It's just

1524
00:56:12,684 --> 00:56:14,945
the few people that can get on that

1525
00:56:15,485 --> 00:56:15,804
that,

1526
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:19,109
craft and escape before the rest of us

1527
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:21,349
are blown up. They don't want all of

1528
00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:22,329
us. Oh,

1529
00:56:22,869 --> 00:56:24,789
well, they don't want the ones who think

1530
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:26,389
it'll be fun to live on Mars. They

1531
00:56:26,389 --> 00:56:28,230
have a very Yeah. And I think that

1532
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:30,389
as far as space exploration, I mean, that's

1533
00:56:30,389 --> 00:56:31,934
just to acquire. I think that's

1534
00:56:33,135 --> 00:56:34,894
inherited in if not that's not the right

1535
00:56:34,894 --> 00:56:36,675
word, in us all. Inherent.

1536
00:56:36,974 --> 00:56:38,815
Inherent. Thank you. I'm sure you would correct

1537
00:56:38,815 --> 00:56:39,315
me.

1538
00:56:40,015 --> 00:56:42,835
But to keep exploring, we might find

1539
00:56:43,855 --> 00:56:46,255
things that are gonna help whole humanity out

1540
00:56:46,255 --> 00:56:47,474
of doing this exploration.

1541
00:56:47,989 --> 00:56:50,309
Well, if we discover that there has been

1542
00:56:50,309 --> 00:56:51,449
life on Mars,

1543
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:55,369
so what? I mean, yes. So what? Because

1544
00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:57,130
we're not going to be able

1545
00:56:57,429 --> 00:57:00,405
to create a craft that will just take

1546
00:57:00,405 --> 00:57:02,005
all of us there, and we can establish

1547
00:57:02,005 --> 00:57:04,085
a new civilization on Mars. We will. That's

1548
00:57:04,085 --> 00:57:04,985
not gonna happen.

1549
00:57:05,445 --> 00:57:06,885
No. But Who would want to live on

1550
00:57:06,885 --> 00:57:08,885
that? Well, there are people who would want

1551
00:57:08,885 --> 00:57:10,485
to. I guess so. Yeah. I guess so.

1552
00:57:10,485 --> 00:57:12,644
Yeah. And and I think because we don't

1553
00:57:12,644 --> 00:57:15,150
know, that is the big question of mankind.

1554
00:57:15,210 --> 00:57:16,650
We want to find out, what don't we

1555
00:57:16,650 --> 00:57:17,150
know?

1556
00:57:17,530 --> 00:57:19,690
Let's let's go a little bit farther. Let's

1557
00:57:19,690 --> 00:57:22,170
push the envelope. Let's find out what what

1558
00:57:22,170 --> 00:57:24,170
lies beyond what we think we know. Yeah.

1559
00:57:24,170 --> 00:57:26,114
Let's build what we know. Let's build an

1560
00:57:26,195 --> 00:57:28,675
airplane. But Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. We'll just we'll

1561
00:57:28,675 --> 00:57:30,755
just keep pushing it. All this is neat,

1562
00:57:30,755 --> 00:57:33,074
but it's all whiteies on the moon. If

1563
00:57:33,074 --> 00:57:35,074
you're familiar with that. Yeah. Well It's all

1564
00:57:35,074 --> 00:57:36,755
whiteies on the moon. On the moon. We've

1565
00:57:36,755 --> 00:57:37,255
spent

1566
00:57:37,554 --> 00:57:40,215
billions of dollars to go to the moon.

1567
00:57:40,460 --> 00:57:42,079
For what reason, I don't know.

1568
00:57:42,539 --> 00:57:44,059
And because you could and the and the

1569
00:57:44,059 --> 00:57:46,139
guy telling the poem says, a rat's a

1570
00:57:46,139 --> 00:57:48,460
rat done bit my sister now, and he

1571
00:57:48,460 --> 00:57:50,859
can't afford the doctor bills. His rent's going

1572
00:57:50,859 --> 00:57:52,485
up and all, but Whitey's on the moon.

1573
00:57:52,565 --> 00:57:54,644
Yeah. Yeah. There's no Well, more to the

1574
00:57:54,644 --> 00:57:55,785
bone than that. Multiculturalism

1575
00:57:56,485 --> 00:57:58,644
on Mars. I'll tell you that right now.

1576
00:57:58,644 --> 00:58:00,565
Oh, well. Yeah. But, see, Ray, you're going

1577
00:58:00,565 --> 00:58:02,485
off in another direction. Well, I watched I

1578
00:58:02,485 --> 00:58:02,985
watched

1579
00:58:03,605 --> 00:58:04,825
a a two part documentary

1580
00:58:05,204 --> 00:58:06,184
recently about

1581
00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:09,130
Mars and that helicopter and everything. Uh-huh.

1582
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:11,510
Why would anybody wanna go there for any

1583
00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:12,329
reason whatsoever?

1584
00:58:12,869 --> 00:58:13,369
Well,

1585
00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:15,589
we won't know yet or we don't know,

1586
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:17,829
but, we'll talk about it some other time

1587
00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:19,829
because we're almost out of time. We got

1588
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:22,994
about 30 left. We do. Billy and Shirley

1589
00:58:23,155 --> 00:58:25,394
like you. Joining us on this. A fun

1590
00:58:25,394 --> 00:58:27,315
topic. Fun topic. It was a fun topic.

1591
00:58:27,315 --> 00:58:28,514
Well, you know what? It was a lot

1592
00:58:28,514 --> 00:58:29,954
more fun than I thought it would be

1593
00:58:29,954 --> 00:58:32,355
because you brought some information. And, of course,

1594
00:58:32,355 --> 00:58:33,954
I can count on Billy because she's always

1595
00:58:33,954 --> 00:58:37,079
got wonderful information from the park. Alright. Yeah.

1596
00:58:37,079 --> 00:58:39,400
Right, man? So You didn't break it. Somebody

1597
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,639
gets a visit, let us know. Okay. Y'all

1598
00:58:41,639 --> 00:58:42,780
been listening to KCIWLP

1599
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,339
one hundred point seven

1600
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:49,545
FM in beautiful Brookings, Oregon. Thank you all.