1 00:00:08,559 --> 00:00:11,439 Welcome to Wild Rivers Film Radio, the official 2 00:00:11,439 --> 00:00:13,939 podcast of the Wild Rivers Film Festival 3 00:00:14,484 --> 00:00:15,785 right here on KCIW 4 00:00:16,324 --> 00:00:18,664 one hundred point seven FM. 5 00:00:19,045 --> 00:00:20,744 I'm your host, Bev Jadet. 6 00:00:21,125 --> 00:00:24,585 And joining me today as cohost is Rick 7 00:00:24,884 --> 00:00:25,384 McNamer. 8 00:00:26,404 --> 00:00:30,239 We're talking this morning with Sarah McNair Landry, 9 00:00:31,099 --> 00:00:32,079 and her film, 10 00:00:32,460 --> 00:00:33,759 A Bath and Vacation, 11 00:00:34,140 --> 00:00:36,539 Love on Ice is an official selection of 12 00:00:36,539 --> 00:00:38,879 the Wild Rivers Film Festival this year. 13 00:00:39,659 --> 00:00:42,524 And this is Rick. Before we dive in, 14 00:00:42,585 --> 00:00:44,824 we'd like to thank the Wild Rivers Film 15 00:00:44,824 --> 00:00:48,604 Festival's twenty twenty five presenting sponsor, the Tolowa 16 00:00:48,824 --> 00:00:49,725 Dene Nation, 17 00:00:50,344 --> 00:00:53,384 whose generous support makes both our festival and 18 00:00:53,384 --> 00:00:55,484 our summer film workshop possible. 19 00:00:56,090 --> 00:00:58,829 We also thank Oregon's Wild Rivers Coast, 20 00:00:59,289 --> 00:01:02,269 Sutter Coast Hospital, and the city of Brookings. 21 00:01:02,890 --> 00:01:05,209 To learn more about supporting independent film on 22 00:01:05,209 --> 00:01:09,629 the Wild Rivers Coast, visit wildriversfilmfestival.com. 23 00:01:10,105 --> 00:01:12,525 If you're just discovering us, welcome. 24 00:01:12,984 --> 00:01:15,224 The Wild Rivers Film Festival is a four 25 00:01:15,224 --> 00:01:18,525 day celebration of independent regional and international 26 00:01:18,905 --> 00:01:19,405 film. 27 00:01:19,865 --> 00:01:23,005 We screen dozens of films across multiple venues 28 00:01:23,380 --> 00:01:26,500 with filmmaker q and a's, panels, and special 29 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:27,000 events 30 00:01:27,459 --> 00:01:30,359 that connect the audience directly with the artist 31 00:01:30,420 --> 00:01:33,540 behind the work. This year's festival will run 32 00:01:33,540 --> 00:01:34,469 August 33 00:01:34,469 --> 00:01:35,400 '16, 34 00:01:35,885 --> 00:01:38,144 and passes are on sale right now. 35 00:01:39,724 --> 00:01:42,465 Sarah, welcome to the Wild Rivers Film Radio. 36 00:01:42,605 --> 00:01:44,844 It's great to have you here. Thank you. 37 00:01:44,844 --> 00:01:46,145 Excited to be here. 38 00:01:47,084 --> 00:01:49,325 To start us off, could you introduce yourself 39 00:01:49,325 --> 00:01:50,145 to our listeners? 40 00:01:50,579 --> 00:01:52,899 Tell us a bit about your background both 41 00:01:52,899 --> 00:01:53,719 as an adventurer 42 00:01:54,099 --> 00:01:55,239 and as a filmmaker. 43 00:01:56,579 --> 00:01:59,780 Yeah. Of course. My name's Sarah, and I 44 00:01:59,780 --> 00:02:02,179 grew up on Baffin Island in the Canadian 45 00:02:02,179 --> 00:02:04,265 Arctic, and it's still home. 46 00:02:05,765 --> 00:02:06,265 And 47 00:02:06,564 --> 00:02:07,064 I 48 00:02:08,085 --> 00:02:09,625 basically just love being outside. 49 00:02:10,884 --> 00:02:11,384 I 50 00:02:11,925 --> 00:02:14,324 started doing exhibitions at a pretty young age 51 00:02:14,324 --> 00:02:16,724 and completely fell in love with it. 52 00:02:17,365 --> 00:02:17,444 So, 53 00:02:19,020 --> 00:02:21,419 anytime I get time off, I kinda disappear 54 00:02:21,419 --> 00:02:23,039 for a month or two or three, 55 00:02:24,860 --> 00:02:27,259 either in the Canadian Arctic or Greenland or 56 00:02:27,259 --> 00:02:27,759 Antarctica. 57 00:02:29,419 --> 00:02:32,064 And we were lucky enough to see that 58 00:02:32,064 --> 00:02:34,724 film, and, man, it was just absolutely wonderful. 59 00:02:35,265 --> 00:02:37,585 So what drew you to telling this particular 60 00:02:37,585 --> 00:02:40,305 story, and how did Baffin Island Vacation Love 61 00:02:40,305 --> 00:02:41,605 on Ice come to be? 62 00:02:44,340 --> 00:02:46,580 It was always a dream of ours to 63 00:02:46,580 --> 00:02:49,319 go to this certain area in Baffin. And, 64 00:02:50,020 --> 00:02:51,780 for those who don't know, Baffin is the 65 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:54,099 fifth largest island in the world. Even though 66 00:02:54,099 --> 00:02:56,805 it's home, there's so many areas that are 67 00:02:57,284 --> 00:02:59,784 still completely unknown. And, 68 00:03:00,805 --> 00:03:02,405 yeah, I haven't really gotten a chance to 69 00:03:02,405 --> 00:03:04,104 go to, and this was one of them. 70 00:03:04,805 --> 00:03:05,305 And 71 00:03:05,924 --> 00:03:08,424 myself and my partner, Eric Boomer, who's also 72 00:03:08,644 --> 00:03:10,025 a filmmaker and 73 00:03:10,405 --> 00:03:11,784 an athlete in the film, 74 00:03:13,030 --> 00:03:15,349 Yeah. I had really wanted to take into 75 00:03:15,349 --> 00:03:16,650 this area in the summertime. 76 00:03:17,830 --> 00:03:18,330 So 77 00:03:18,949 --> 00:03:19,449 we 78 00:03:20,069 --> 00:03:22,629 decided to load up with, seventy days of 79 00:03:22,629 --> 00:03:25,830 food and film equipment and camera equipment and 80 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:26,805 set off and, 81 00:03:28,324 --> 00:03:30,745 yeah, then basically the entire summer 82 00:03:31,525 --> 00:03:32,745 exploring this area. 83 00:03:33,525 --> 00:03:35,284 That was one of our questions was how 84 00:03:35,284 --> 00:03:37,144 long did that take you? Because 85 00:03:37,685 --> 00:03:41,064 you visited so many incredible looking sites 86 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,260 And from raging water to 87 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:47,840 crystal clear ice, we just wondered, how long 88 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,439 were you there? So you were there the 89 00:03:49,439 --> 00:03:50,419 entire summer? 90 00:03:52,639 --> 00:03:54,319 We were. And that's a bit about the 91 00:03:54,319 --> 00:03:56,319 tricky thing with approaching this area in the 92 00:03:56,319 --> 00:03:57,814 summer is that, 93 00:03:58,675 --> 00:04:00,675 in the film, we traveled in on skis 94 00:04:00,675 --> 00:04:02,055 and kite skis when 95 00:04:02,355 --> 00:04:03,895 the sea ice was still frozen. 96 00:04:04,995 --> 00:04:06,675 But then as soon as the sea ice 97 00:04:06,675 --> 00:04:09,155 started breaking up, it becomes very difficult to 98 00:04:09,155 --> 00:04:11,629 travel. So you can't ski on the ice 99 00:04:11,629 --> 00:04:14,110 anymore, but you also can't kayak because there's 100 00:04:14,110 --> 00:04:15,950 so many ice chunks, and it's kind of 101 00:04:15,950 --> 00:04:18,430 all blocked up and broken up. So in 102 00:04:18,430 --> 00:04:19,970 some ways, we knew we were 103 00:04:20,350 --> 00:04:21,790 we were trying to get in as late 104 00:04:21,790 --> 00:04:23,089 as we could in the season 105 00:04:23,685 --> 00:04:25,125 while we could still ski, and then we 106 00:04:25,125 --> 00:04:27,044 knew we're kinda getting ourselves stuck in there 107 00:04:27,044 --> 00:04:27,865 for the summer. 108 00:04:29,125 --> 00:04:29,625 Wow. 109 00:04:30,084 --> 00:04:30,584 And 110 00:04:30,964 --> 00:04:32,324 Go ahead. Well, I was gonna say, and 111 00:04:32,324 --> 00:04:34,004 that summer up there isn't like our summer 112 00:04:34,004 --> 00:04:35,879 down here. It's just a couple of months. 113 00:04:35,959 --> 00:04:36,699 I'm guessing. 114 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,680 Well, you said seventy days is what it 115 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,420 took you. 116 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,379 Yeah. It's pretty short. 117 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,759 Yeah. We went in late June, and then 118 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:47,180 we came out mid August ish. 119 00:04:47,639 --> 00:04:50,485 And did you pack in all your food 120 00:04:50,544 --> 00:04:52,625 at the very beginning, or were there did 121 00:04:52,625 --> 00:04:54,544 you have food drops? Where how did you 122 00:04:54,544 --> 00:04:55,204 do that? 123 00:04:57,504 --> 00:04:58,564 We packed 124 00:04:59,104 --> 00:05:01,104 most of our stuff in. Our climbing gear 125 00:05:01,104 --> 00:05:02,964 was very heavy. It's a lot of metal, 126 00:05:03,810 --> 00:05:05,730 And we had some friends that were heading 127 00:05:05,730 --> 00:05:08,050 into the area to go fishing, so they 128 00:05:08,050 --> 00:05:10,069 were able to bring some of our heavier, 129 00:05:11,250 --> 00:05:13,810 climbing gear and some food in. But apart 130 00:05:13,810 --> 00:05:15,589 from that, we carried everything in. 131 00:05:17,810 --> 00:05:18,310 Wow. 132 00:05:19,824 --> 00:05:21,925 So at at what point did you realize 133 00:05:22,064 --> 00:05:24,004 this journey wasn't just an expedition, 134 00:05:24,784 --> 00:05:26,704 but a film worth sharing with a with 135 00:05:26,704 --> 00:05:28,865 a wider audience? And, boy, is it worth 136 00:05:28,865 --> 00:05:30,884 sharing with a wider audience. It's fantastic. 137 00:05:33,104 --> 00:05:35,670 Oh, thank you. We went into it knowing 138 00:05:35,670 --> 00:05:37,210 we wanted to make a film, 139 00:05:38,470 --> 00:05:38,970 and 140 00:05:39,750 --> 00:05:41,670 with an idea of the film, which is 141 00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:44,569 always hard because you don't really know how 142 00:05:46,069 --> 00:05:48,595 the expedition's gonna save out and what's the 143 00:05:48,595 --> 00:05:50,754 main story gonna be. But but we definitely 144 00:05:50,754 --> 00:05:52,595 went in with camera gear and with the 145 00:05:52,595 --> 00:05:53,095 idea 146 00:05:53,634 --> 00:05:56,115 that we wanted to come out of it, 147 00:05:57,634 --> 00:05:59,254 with the with the film. 148 00:06:00,675 --> 00:06:01,894 That's so cool. 149 00:06:02,889 --> 00:06:04,810 One one of the things that struck us 150 00:06:04,810 --> 00:06:06,750 was that it looked isolated. 151 00:06:07,850 --> 00:06:09,389 Fantastic, but isolated. 152 00:06:09,850 --> 00:06:12,189 And we wondered what your biggest challenges 153 00:06:12,490 --> 00:06:15,150 were when you were filming in such extreme 154 00:06:15,290 --> 00:06:15,790 conditions. 155 00:06:18,705 --> 00:06:21,185 It wasn't very isolated. We saw zero people 156 00:06:21,185 --> 00:06:22,245 the entire time, 157 00:06:23,504 --> 00:06:24,404 which was nice, 158 00:06:25,105 --> 00:06:27,045 which is what we wanted. Yeah. 159 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:28,779 But, 160 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,960 I think our biggest challenge is, especially beyond 161 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:32,460 expedition, 162 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:34,680 is the weight of the camera gear. It's 163 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,060 quite heavy. Mhmm. 164 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:38,060 Especially for, 165 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:41,080 you know, the the kayaking section where you're 166 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,779 hauling the kayaks on your shoulder. 167 00:06:43,645 --> 00:06:45,584 So we really had to think about 168 00:06:46,444 --> 00:06:48,785 what exactly we wanted and pair back, 169 00:06:49,404 --> 00:06:52,285 and also battery power. So we had a 170 00:06:52,285 --> 00:06:55,245 small solar system, but, all our batteries were 171 00:06:55,245 --> 00:06:56,384 dependent on charging 172 00:06:56,764 --> 00:06:57,504 on solar. 173 00:06:59,099 --> 00:07:01,659 So it also we had very limited power 174 00:07:01,659 --> 00:07:03,579 as well, which really makes you think especially 175 00:07:03,579 --> 00:07:05,839 the drone. The drone uses so much power. 176 00:07:06,620 --> 00:07:08,800 We really had to plan our shots and 177 00:07:08,939 --> 00:07:10,699 and think about, like, oh, is this gonna 178 00:07:10,699 --> 00:07:12,539 be a key shot or an important moment 179 00:07:12,539 --> 00:07:13,199 to film, 180 00:07:15,035 --> 00:07:16,555 which I think is good in some ways 181 00:07:16,555 --> 00:07:17,834 because it makes me think about it a 182 00:07:17,834 --> 00:07:20,095 little bit more instead of building everything 183 00:07:20,475 --> 00:07:21,535 and over filming. 184 00:07:22,394 --> 00:07:24,475 Yeah. That was something else I wondered about. 185 00:07:24,475 --> 00:07:26,314 Like, when you guys are shooting down these 186 00:07:26,314 --> 00:07:26,814 rapids, 187 00:07:27,470 --> 00:07:29,550 did you think, hey. It looked good, or 188 00:07:29,550 --> 00:07:31,069 what if it didn't look good? How did 189 00:07:31,069 --> 00:07:33,230 you did you make a decision right then 190 00:07:33,230 --> 00:07:35,310 and there? I'm gonna reshoot that. Let's do 191 00:07:35,310 --> 00:07:35,970 it again. 192 00:07:39,164 --> 00:07:40,144 Some of the rapids, 193 00:07:40,925 --> 00:07:42,604 we didn't always have the choice to do 194 00:07:42,604 --> 00:07:43,104 again, 195 00:07:43,964 --> 00:07:45,745 especially some of the bigger ones. 196 00:07:47,404 --> 00:07:47,904 Because, 197 00:07:48,284 --> 00:07:51,084 yeah, sometimes it's like, you know, there there's 198 00:07:51,084 --> 00:07:53,004 a level of of danger in them too, 199 00:07:53,004 --> 00:07:53,824 and and 200 00:07:54,250 --> 00:07:56,009 you might not wanna repeat them a second 201 00:07:56,009 --> 00:07:56,509 time. 202 00:07:57,129 --> 00:07:57,629 But, 203 00:07:58,410 --> 00:08:00,089 so a lot of times, there's a one 204 00:08:00,089 --> 00:08:01,709 shot kind of opportunity. 205 00:08:02,089 --> 00:08:02,910 Mhmm. And, 206 00:08:04,810 --> 00:08:07,290 and we would just have we had a 207 00:08:07,290 --> 00:08:09,654 pretty good system. I I would get the 208 00:08:09,654 --> 00:08:11,335 drone in the air and then 209 00:08:11,795 --> 00:08:13,875 a a film camera on the tripod and 210 00:08:13,875 --> 00:08:15,814 then a GoPro on a kayak. 211 00:08:17,955 --> 00:08:20,355 And then oftentimes, I'd put up a still 212 00:08:20,355 --> 00:08:22,455 camera on, like, a quick one second 213 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,060 kinda snapshot. 214 00:08:25,639 --> 00:08:28,360 So then you could capture hopefully, you know, 215 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,259 you capture 216 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,699 the moment somehow. 217 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,399 Sounds very cool. And But it was very 218 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:33,899 stressful. 219 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,839 I was wondering about that too. Big big 220 00:08:36,839 --> 00:08:38,675 drop. Did you forget 221 00:08:39,134 --> 00:08:40,915 ever that you were filming, 222 00:08:41,695 --> 00:08:44,014 or were you always conscious of I'm telling 223 00:08:44,014 --> 00:08:45,075 a story here? 224 00:08:48,735 --> 00:08:50,355 We were conscious 225 00:08:50,690 --> 00:08:51,669 because we went in 226 00:08:52,690 --> 00:08:54,529 to the exhibition with the goal of doing 227 00:08:54,529 --> 00:08:56,450 it. It was something that we thought about 228 00:08:56,450 --> 00:08:57,509 when we talked about, 229 00:08:58,929 --> 00:09:01,329 and, you know, it's a seventy day expedition. 230 00:09:01,329 --> 00:09:02,929 So while the convos was like, oh, would 231 00:09:02,929 --> 00:09:04,529 this make a good story? Is it worth 232 00:09:04,529 --> 00:09:06,389 filming or is it not worth filming? 233 00:09:06,825 --> 00:09:08,745 So it's definitely something that was on our 234 00:09:08,745 --> 00:09:09,245 mind, 235 00:09:10,745 --> 00:09:12,745 a lot. But then, you know, other days 236 00:09:12,745 --> 00:09:13,485 too, like, 237 00:09:14,345 --> 00:09:16,665 when we're hiking with big loads and shuttle 238 00:09:16,665 --> 00:09:17,565 weather, shuttling 239 00:09:18,105 --> 00:09:19,860 gear to the base of the climb or 240 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:22,000 you know, you only need so many of 241 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,320 those shots, and then you can kinda put 242 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,660 the camera down and just zone out and 243 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,179 put your head down and 244 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:29,620 do the hard work. 245 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,960 Yeah. Did you have, like, a particular moment 246 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:33,920 that stands out where, 247 00:09:35,414 --> 00:09:37,495 filming had to take a back seat to 248 00:09:37,495 --> 00:09:39,274 maybe safety or survival? 249 00:09:42,455 --> 00:09:45,335 Yeah. There's a couple moments, and that's why 250 00:09:45,335 --> 00:09:47,014 they're not in the house too because they 251 00:09:47,014 --> 00:09:49,409 weren't you know, we just didn't film them. 252 00:09:49,649 --> 00:09:50,149 But, 253 00:09:51,089 --> 00:09:53,009 there was definitely a moment when we're trying 254 00:09:53,009 --> 00:09:54,610 to get through the sea ice and we 255 00:09:54,610 --> 00:09:56,370 started and there's still a lot of broken 256 00:09:56,370 --> 00:09:57,509 up ice and, 257 00:09:59,409 --> 00:10:01,490 it was just really tricky. You can't really 258 00:10:01,490 --> 00:10:03,110 paddle and then you're like 259 00:10:04,209 --> 00:10:06,554 yeah. Trying to paddle then hop across, and 260 00:10:06,554 --> 00:10:08,715 all the ice started pushing up towards this 261 00:10:08,715 --> 00:10:10,794 cliff. The wind just started pushing it, and 262 00:10:10,794 --> 00:10:12,815 we're kinda getting pushed with the ice. And 263 00:10:13,195 --> 00:10:15,054 it was fine. We were able to just 264 00:10:15,115 --> 00:10:18,009 work really hard and and move fast and 265 00:10:18,009 --> 00:10:19,450 get out of there, but it that was 266 00:10:19,450 --> 00:10:20,750 the moment that we didn't, 267 00:10:22,170 --> 00:10:23,769 we captured a little bit of it, but 268 00:10:23,769 --> 00:10:26,410 not enough to really create a story that 269 00:10:26,410 --> 00:10:29,294 made it into the final film. Mhmm. And 270 00:10:29,294 --> 00:10:30,115 with all that, 271 00:10:31,054 --> 00:10:32,595 equipment that you guys had 272 00:10:32,975 --> 00:10:36,414 and the kayaking wasn't like kayaking kayaking down 273 00:10:36,414 --> 00:10:38,034 one of our rivers here. I 274 00:10:38,414 --> 00:10:40,654 it looked like Niagara Falls to me. It 275 00:10:40,654 --> 00:10:41,669 did. Did you 276 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:44,549 did you lose any equipment? I I I 277 00:10:44,549 --> 00:10:46,250 can only imagine you must have. 278 00:10:47,669 --> 00:10:49,269 Or were you able to to get through 279 00:10:49,269 --> 00:10:51,029 it all with all your equipment that you 280 00:10:51,029 --> 00:10:52,009 originally had? 281 00:10:54,725 --> 00:10:56,644 That's a good question. I still don't think 282 00:10:56,644 --> 00:10:59,205 we lost any equipment, which is surprising because 283 00:10:59,205 --> 00:11:01,605 usually, you lose a GoPro off the front 284 00:11:01,605 --> 00:11:03,144 of a kayak or something. 285 00:11:04,644 --> 00:11:06,804 But I don't believe we did lose anything 286 00:11:06,804 --> 00:11:08,159 on this one. Wow. 287 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,360 That's pretty amazing from the from the shots 288 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:12,259 that we saw. 289 00:11:13,519 --> 00:11:14,819 Did the environment influence, 290 00:11:16,079 --> 00:11:18,500 the emotional tone of the film at all? 291 00:11:26,815 --> 00:11:27,315 Perhaps. 292 00:11:27,855 --> 00:11:30,575 Yes. You know, it's it's a majestic place. 293 00:11:30,575 --> 00:11:32,654 I think I definitely think as a character 294 00:11:32,654 --> 00:11:33,475 in the film, 295 00:11:34,414 --> 00:11:37,475 the place, because it's just so stunning and 296 00:11:37,934 --> 00:11:39,235 incredible and, 297 00:11:41,670 --> 00:11:42,649 yeah, we definitely 298 00:11:43,590 --> 00:11:46,170 wanted to create a tone that was 299 00:11:47,350 --> 00:11:47,850 fun 300 00:11:48,230 --> 00:11:49,129 and and, 301 00:11:50,629 --> 00:11:52,470 and hoping to make it funny too. And 302 00:11:52,470 --> 00:11:55,514 it certainly showed not well, not only as 303 00:11:55,514 --> 00:11:56,014 majestic 304 00:11:56,714 --> 00:11:58,955 as what it was, dangerous looking, but it 305 00:11:58,955 --> 00:12:00,254 was absolutely beautiful. 306 00:12:00,955 --> 00:12:02,714 It was. And you guys looked like you 307 00:12:02,714 --> 00:12:03,774 were having fun 308 00:12:04,235 --> 00:12:06,570 and enjoying each other. Just 309 00:12:07,450 --> 00:12:09,769 I don't know. There's a early shot you 310 00:12:09,769 --> 00:12:10,669 put in there, 311 00:12:11,289 --> 00:12:12,910 of yourself as a child, 312 00:12:13,529 --> 00:12:14,830 and there's a precociousness 313 00:12:15,370 --> 00:12:16,429 about your face. 314 00:12:16,889 --> 00:12:18,889 And it it played through the rest of 315 00:12:18,889 --> 00:12:19,549 the film. 316 00:12:20,404 --> 00:12:24,024 Your personality is a wonderful dynamic personality. 317 00:12:26,564 --> 00:12:29,125 Yes. That and also We have Oh, go 318 00:12:29,125 --> 00:12:30,424 ahead. Please. Go ahead. 319 00:12:31,284 --> 00:12:33,129 Hello. Go for it. Well, Well, I was 320 00:12:33,129 --> 00:12:34,809 just gonna say and also you now you 321 00:12:34,809 --> 00:12:37,209 were born and raised on Baffin Island, you 322 00:12:37,209 --> 00:12:37,709 said. 323 00:12:38,169 --> 00:12:40,570 So maybe very early in your life, did 324 00:12:40,570 --> 00:12:43,370 you you must have got that wanderlust already 325 00:12:43,370 --> 00:12:44,985 to check out the beautiful place 326 00:12:45,865 --> 00:12:46,684 where you live 327 00:12:47,544 --> 00:12:48,524 and grew up. 328 00:12:49,065 --> 00:12:49,565 Yeah. 329 00:12:50,264 --> 00:12:51,644 Yeah. Exactly. And 330 00:12:52,504 --> 00:12:53,485 and my parents, 331 00:12:55,384 --> 00:12:58,379 were both polar guides and owned and operated, 332 00:12:58,379 --> 00:13:00,460 like, a guiding company. So I grew up 333 00:13:00,460 --> 00:13:02,160 with a dog team and, 334 00:13:02,779 --> 00:13:04,940 you know, they drag us out camping and 335 00:13:04,940 --> 00:13:06,080 we're always outside, 336 00:13:07,740 --> 00:13:10,139 whether for fun or, you know, the early 337 00:13:10,139 --> 00:13:12,745 age, I started guiding as well. So it 338 00:13:12,745 --> 00:13:13,245 definitely 339 00:13:13,944 --> 00:13:15,884 taught me just to love the outdoors. 340 00:13:17,144 --> 00:13:19,304 Well, it's funny. You say drag they started 341 00:13:19,304 --> 00:13:20,745 to drag you out, and then you end 342 00:13:20,745 --> 00:13:22,424 up wanting to go out and tackle it 343 00:13:22,424 --> 00:13:22,924 yourself, 344 00:13:24,105 --> 00:13:25,725 defying all the odds. Yeah. 345 00:13:26,929 --> 00:13:28,929 And so I use the word drag because 346 00:13:28,929 --> 00:13:30,129 you know how it is when you're a 347 00:13:30,129 --> 00:13:32,549 kid. You don't always wanna do things that 348 00:13:33,570 --> 00:13:36,129 Yeah. But your parents are doing. Correct. But 349 00:13:36,129 --> 00:13:38,789 where I got drugged too wasn't, the outdoors 350 00:13:38,929 --> 00:13:41,394 like you were you were drugged to. Yeah. 351 00:13:41,394 --> 00:13:43,714 You were in a magical place from there. 352 00:13:43,714 --> 00:13:45,714 It was or it is. So at its 353 00:13:45,714 --> 00:13:47,654 heart, this film is about partnership 354 00:13:48,274 --> 00:13:50,195 on and off the ice. How did your 355 00:13:50,195 --> 00:13:53,174 relationship factor into both the journey itself 356 00:13:53,730 --> 00:13:54,709 and the storytelling? 357 00:13:58,929 --> 00:13:59,649 I mean, it 358 00:14:01,009 --> 00:14:03,269 our relationship becomes, like, 359 00:14:03,730 --> 00:14:05,909 one of the main themes in the film. 360 00:14:06,965 --> 00:14:09,445 It wasn't necessarily what we set out to 361 00:14:09,445 --> 00:14:11,445 do, but it's hard to ignore the fact 362 00:14:11,445 --> 00:14:12,665 that we're a couple 363 00:14:13,365 --> 00:14:15,684 and we're going out in these areas. And 364 00:14:15,684 --> 00:14:17,865 and not only were we on the exhibition 365 00:14:17,924 --> 00:14:20,884 together, but we're also filming the film together 366 00:14:20,884 --> 00:14:21,625 as well. 367 00:14:22,199 --> 00:14:22,679 And, 368 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,720 we actually had a good friend who did 369 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,339 all the editing for the film. 370 00:14:28,919 --> 00:14:30,519 So he was the one that really was 371 00:14:30,519 --> 00:14:32,539 able to weave that story together. 372 00:14:38,254 --> 00:14:39,154 Did you say 373 00:14:39,695 --> 00:14:42,095 you you had a friend he wasn't with 374 00:14:42,095 --> 00:14:45,535 you, though? He or was he missing to? 375 00:14:45,535 --> 00:14:47,535 It was just the two of us. Right. 376 00:14:47,535 --> 00:14:48,894 No. It was just the two of us 377 00:14:48,894 --> 00:14:50,735 on the exposition, and we did all the 378 00:14:50,735 --> 00:14:53,370 filming. Oh, okay. But then for the for 379 00:14:53,370 --> 00:14:54,029 the editing, 380 00:14:55,049 --> 00:14:57,450 we had a friend who edited, which I 381 00:14:57,450 --> 00:14:57,929 think is a 382 00:14:58,649 --> 00:15:01,149 was really good. Sometimes you can be too 383 00:15:01,850 --> 00:15:02,910 because we were 384 00:15:03,370 --> 00:15:05,850 not only the filmmakers, but also the characters 385 00:15:05,850 --> 00:15:07,370 in the film, I think it's good to 386 00:15:07,370 --> 00:15:08,429 have a third person 387 00:15:08,855 --> 00:15:11,514 and a different perspective come in and help 388 00:15:11,575 --> 00:15:13,995 crack the story. Yeah. Yeah. 389 00:15:14,774 --> 00:15:17,115 Yeah. There must have definitely been scenes, 390 00:15:18,134 --> 00:15:20,295 that you felt like, oh, I don't know 391 00:15:20,295 --> 00:15:21,995 if I wanna share that with everybody. 392 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:24,870 And so it would be good to have 393 00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:26,009 that third party 394 00:15:26,389 --> 00:15:28,550 who says, no. We're gonna leave it in 395 00:15:28,550 --> 00:15:29,929 because that's great footage. 396 00:15:30,309 --> 00:15:32,149 Or who says, yeah. I I agree with 397 00:15:32,149 --> 00:15:33,769 you. Let's take that part out. 398 00:15:35,965 --> 00:15:38,205 Yeah. Exactly. Sometimes we get, 399 00:15:38,764 --> 00:15:40,144 really attached to, 400 00:15:41,644 --> 00:15:44,304 shots or scenes partly because we did put 401 00:15:44,365 --> 00:15:46,445 effort into filming them. You know? There's one 402 00:15:46,445 --> 00:15:47,980 that didn't make it, and we're like, but 403 00:15:47,980 --> 00:15:49,440 it took us a half a day. 404 00:15:51,339 --> 00:15:53,579 But it just didn't belong. And then there's 405 00:15:53,579 --> 00:15:54,720 other moments where, 406 00:15:55,100 --> 00:15:55,679 you know, 407 00:15:56,459 --> 00:15:59,019 it I have a funny look or a 408 00:15:59,019 --> 00:16:01,500 booger, whatever it is that I probably wanna 409 00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:03,485 put in film. But it made it in 410 00:16:03,485 --> 00:16:05,644 the final shot. So I think it's 411 00:16:06,365 --> 00:16:08,925 So what's it been like, to share the 412 00:16:08,925 --> 00:16:10,945 film with audiences so far? 413 00:16:13,884 --> 00:16:15,425 It's been really fun. 414 00:16:16,365 --> 00:16:19,519 It's I was able to go to the 415 00:16:19,519 --> 00:16:20,580 band song festival, 416 00:16:21,759 --> 00:16:23,860 when it premiered in Canada. And 417 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,799 it's such a different experience when you're sitting 418 00:16:26,799 --> 00:16:28,240 in a theater and you get to hear 419 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,620 everybody laugh and, 420 00:16:30,675 --> 00:16:32,134 yeah, it makes it really special. 421 00:16:34,675 --> 00:16:36,915 You know, I have one question. You guys 422 00:16:36,915 --> 00:16:39,235 were you camped out you were just camped 423 00:16:39,235 --> 00:16:41,735 out over there overnight at various places. 424 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,759 Isn't that big, polar I think you mentioned 425 00:16:44,759 --> 00:16:46,379 polar bears briefly, but 426 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:47,740 what about 427 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,860 any kind of protections you carried with you 428 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,700 when you were camping out? 429 00:16:55,095 --> 00:16:58,394 We did. We, we brought in multiple 430 00:16:59,335 --> 00:17:00,154 bear deterrents 431 00:17:00,695 --> 00:17:03,735 Okay. With us. And we we also had 432 00:17:03,735 --> 00:17:04,235 a, 433 00:17:05,095 --> 00:17:06,855 a bear fence too, which is a bit 434 00:17:06,855 --> 00:17:09,119 of a tripwire fence just to warn 435 00:17:09,579 --> 00:17:10,940 us if a bear came in the camp, 436 00:17:10,940 --> 00:17:12,779 which we didn't set up often, but we 437 00:17:12,779 --> 00:17:14,380 had it as an option if we felt 438 00:17:14,380 --> 00:17:16,079 like we needed it. Okay. 439 00:17:16,380 --> 00:17:18,480 Because aren't they they're pretty notoriously 440 00:17:19,099 --> 00:17:21,434 aggressive from what I understand. 441 00:17:24,055 --> 00:17:26,055 Yeah. I would say they're very curious. They 442 00:17:26,055 --> 00:17:27,994 definitely like to come check you out. 443 00:17:29,734 --> 00:17:30,234 Okay. 444 00:17:31,095 --> 00:17:32,375 So it's so what, 445 00:17:33,009 --> 00:17:35,589 what's next for you? Are there more journeys, 446 00:17:35,809 --> 00:17:38,150 films, or stories on the horizons? 447 00:17:39,809 --> 00:17:41,970 Yeah. Hopefully, more of all of them. We're 448 00:17:41,970 --> 00:17:43,589 just gearing up for a busy, 449 00:17:44,529 --> 00:17:46,289 guiding season. And then, 450 00:17:48,194 --> 00:17:49,494 hopefully, this May, 451 00:17:50,595 --> 00:17:52,855 we have another adventure planned and, 452 00:17:53,794 --> 00:17:55,954 which will be both an adventure and another 453 00:17:55,954 --> 00:17:56,694 film project 454 00:17:56,994 --> 00:17:57,654 as well. 455 00:17:58,914 --> 00:18:00,274 Well, I tell you, the one that we 456 00:18:00,274 --> 00:18:01,974 watched, it was it was just simply 457 00:18:02,490 --> 00:18:03,309 simply fantastic. 458 00:18:03,930 --> 00:18:04,910 Just loved 459 00:18:05,369 --> 00:18:07,630 watching that that film. Really did. 460 00:18:08,490 --> 00:18:11,090 Yeah. I can't wait to have the audiences 461 00:18:11,529 --> 00:18:13,849 Oh, man. See that. You bet. And we've 462 00:18:13,849 --> 00:18:16,214 got a special screening of it coming up. 463 00:18:17,255 --> 00:18:18,934 But before I get to that, I I 464 00:18:18,934 --> 00:18:21,255 know people might wanna jot that down. I'd 465 00:18:21,255 --> 00:18:23,674 like to know, is there something 466 00:18:24,294 --> 00:18:27,335 that you're planning to film anytime soon, another 467 00:18:27,335 --> 00:18:28,394 journey perhaps, 468 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,900 or a story that you're interested in telling? 469 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,779 There are so many stories. 470 00:18:38,759 --> 00:18:39,259 Hopefully, 471 00:18:40,039 --> 00:18:42,315 this next one will be a little bit 472 00:18:42,315 --> 00:18:45,355 of a mix of adventure and some wildlife 473 00:18:45,355 --> 00:18:47,434 stuff as well, which I'm really excited about. 474 00:18:47,434 --> 00:18:48,815 I've been working more, 475 00:18:50,154 --> 00:18:52,654 doing wildlife filming lately. So, 476 00:18:53,755 --> 00:18:55,929 yeah, we're kinda hoping to blend a little 477 00:18:55,929 --> 00:18:57,690 bit of our two passions and, 478 00:18:59,450 --> 00:19:00,349 create another 479 00:19:00,650 --> 00:19:01,150 fun 480 00:19:01,529 --> 00:19:03,529 bath and vacation style, but with a little 481 00:19:03,529 --> 00:19:04,750 bit more of the wildlife 482 00:19:05,769 --> 00:19:08,009 angle. That would be cool. That would be 483 00:19:08,009 --> 00:19:10,585 very cool. Wonder, that we didn't see a 484 00:19:10,585 --> 00:19:11,484 lot of wildlife. 485 00:19:12,664 --> 00:19:14,605 But you guys were so adventurous 486 00:19:14,984 --> 00:19:15,484 that 487 00:19:15,944 --> 00:19:17,644 that was like a minor thing. 488 00:19:18,424 --> 00:19:21,625 And it is is isolated as the place 489 00:19:21,625 --> 00:19:23,704 appears to be, I I bet we we 490 00:19:23,704 --> 00:19:26,399 would be amazed at how how varied the 491 00:19:26,399 --> 00:19:27,460 wildlife is 492 00:19:27,759 --> 00:19:28,259 there. 493 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:29,700 Okay. 494 00:19:30,639 --> 00:19:33,039 Yeah. It really depends on the area we're 495 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:34,659 in. We saw lots of seals 496 00:19:35,759 --> 00:19:37,964 and but a lot of the times, like, 497 00:19:37,964 --> 00:19:40,565 the whole area we were climbing is just 498 00:19:40,565 --> 00:19:42,984 glaciers and moraine, and it's very, 499 00:19:46,005 --> 00:19:47,845 not very lush. So there's actually not a 500 00:19:47,845 --> 00:19:50,244 lot of wildlife kinda in that whole climbing 501 00:19:50,244 --> 00:19:53,597 area. Okay. But then again, along the river, 502 00:19:53,597 --> 00:19:56,314 we saw a lot of more birds and 503 00:19:56,314 --> 00:19:59,371 and wildlife there. So, I would say it 504 00:19:59,371 --> 00:20:02,088 kinda varied depending on what area we were 505 00:20:02,088 --> 00:20:05,144 in. We wondered there was a distance shot, 506 00:20:05,144 --> 00:20:06,765 and we wondered about 507 00:20:07,144 --> 00:20:08,445 trees or grasses. 508 00:20:08,984 --> 00:20:11,545 So often the distance was that, like, a 509 00:20:11,545 --> 00:20:13,805 moss type of thing, or was it shrubbery? 510 00:20:14,984 --> 00:20:17,160 Looked like there was some green. It's 511 00:20:18,039 --> 00:20:20,440 Yeah. Like Yeah. Lichen. Tundra up there, but 512 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,440 some of the, yeah, some of the tundra 513 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,779 and lichen can be quite green Okay. 514 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,380 Especially where 515 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:27,400 where it's, 516 00:20:27,799 --> 00:20:29,799 lush or kind of around the river and 517 00:20:29,799 --> 00:20:30,940 bodies of water. 518 00:20:33,125 --> 00:20:34,585 Well, it was very cool. 519 00:20:35,204 --> 00:20:37,065 So I know that our audience, 520 00:20:37,924 --> 00:20:40,085 might wanna grab a pen for this because 521 00:20:40,085 --> 00:20:42,005 I'm gonna give you a date and location 522 00:20:42,005 --> 00:20:43,625 where we're gonna show this film 523 00:20:44,005 --> 00:20:45,384 during the month of February. 524 00:20:46,220 --> 00:20:49,599 But as we begin to wrap up, Abafin 525 00:20:50,299 --> 00:20:50,799 Vacation, 526 00:20:51,820 --> 00:20:54,799 Love on Ice is a beautiful inspiring film, 527 00:20:54,859 --> 00:20:56,940 and it's been a pleasure talking with you, 528 00:20:56,940 --> 00:20:59,505 Sarah. Thank you for joining us on the 529 00:20:59,505 --> 00:21:00,964 Wild Rivers Film Radio. 530 00:21:01,505 --> 00:21:03,585 And, again, for those of you who wanna 531 00:21:03,585 --> 00:21:05,605 see this fantastic film, 532 00:21:06,065 --> 00:21:07,984 the film will screen as part of Wild 533 00:21:07,984 --> 00:21:09,765 Rivers Film Festival programming 534 00:21:10,384 --> 00:21:13,684 during the Brookings second Saturday Art Walk 535 00:21:14,029 --> 00:21:15,569 on February 14, 536 00:21:16,109 --> 00:21:18,269 Valentine's Day, so you could bring your sweetie 537 00:21:18,269 --> 00:21:20,369 and watch this. It would be very appropriate. 538 00:21:20,669 --> 00:21:21,169 Mhmm. 539 00:21:21,549 --> 00:21:23,390 From three to 6PM 540 00:21:23,390 --> 00:21:25,089 at the Compass Rose Cafe. 541 00:21:25,789 --> 00:21:27,490 So come for some adventurous 542 00:21:27,869 --> 00:21:28,369 romance. 543 00:21:30,184 --> 00:21:32,684 And in closing here, 544 00:21:34,984 --> 00:21:37,644 I have I have some stuff to say. 545 00:21:41,299 --> 00:21:42,920 Do you have any last minute, 546 00:21:43,460 --> 00:21:45,400 words you wanna say to us, Sarah? 547 00:21:50,019 --> 00:21:51,940 I just wanna say thanks for having me. 548 00:21:51,940 --> 00:21:54,660 It was fun, and I really hope everybody 549 00:21:54,660 --> 00:21:55,605 enjoys the film. 550 00:21:56,565 --> 00:21:58,404 Oh, I think they will. Oh, that's a 551 00:21:59,365 --> 00:22:01,204 that's kind of a no brainer, I think. 552 00:22:01,204 --> 00:22:04,244 Yes. Yeah. I mean, we were just we 553 00:22:04,244 --> 00:22:06,724 were excited watching your film, and we were 554 00:22:06,724 --> 00:22:07,944 talking, and, 555 00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:10,470 we were amazed at how brave you guys 556 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:13,369 were at times, and we felt your excitement. 557 00:22:13,429 --> 00:22:15,589 So I have a feeling that audiences are 558 00:22:15,589 --> 00:22:17,210 gonna be fully engaged 559 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:19,669 just like we were when they watch it. 560 00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:21,894 You bet. And and one more thing. We 561 00:22:21,894 --> 00:22:23,335 have a little more time. I was you 562 00:22:23,335 --> 00:22:24,154 said safety. 563 00:22:25,095 --> 00:22:27,975 Were there any injuries at all during this 564 00:22:27,975 --> 00:22:29,434 outing that you 565 00:22:29,894 --> 00:22:30,394 had? 566 00:22:32,490 --> 00:22:34,650 I should say you and Eric. I'm sorry. 567 00:22:34,650 --> 00:22:36,670 Didn't mean to not include Eric. 568 00:22:38,009 --> 00:22:39,789 And were you prepared for anything? 569 00:22:40,890 --> 00:22:43,210 We were prepared. We always carry a first 570 00:22:43,210 --> 00:22:45,690 aid kit and are both trained for first 571 00:22:45,690 --> 00:22:46,429 aid and 572 00:22:46,954 --> 00:22:48,795 always in the back of our mind. We 573 00:22:48,795 --> 00:22:50,174 had a couple small injuries. 574 00:22:50,795 --> 00:22:51,615 I actually 575 00:22:52,315 --> 00:22:54,394 halfway up the climb, I try to catch 576 00:22:54,394 --> 00:22:56,015 the drone, and I 577 00:22:56,394 --> 00:22:58,555 shot my finger up pretty badly in the 578 00:22:58,555 --> 00:22:59,759 propeller. Oh. 579 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,220 Yeah. 580 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:04,900 And then 581 00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:07,460 we had a rock fall 582 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,720 that kinda clipped my shoulder on the climb. 583 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:11,700 Again, it wasn't 584 00:23:13,255 --> 00:23:15,575 bad, but it was a a reminder of 585 00:23:15,575 --> 00:23:16,075 how, 586 00:23:17,974 --> 00:23:20,054 how real and how scary things can get 587 00:23:20,054 --> 00:23:21,115 quickly out there. 588 00:23:21,654 --> 00:23:24,214 Boy, I tell you. And you you got 589 00:23:24,214 --> 00:23:25,015 through it in your, 590 00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:28,220 made it through to shoot another day, and 591 00:23:28,220 --> 00:23:30,220 I meant shoot a film Yes. Yes. Another 592 00:23:30,220 --> 00:23:32,059 day. And we're grateful for that. Yeah. It 593 00:23:32,059 --> 00:23:33,680 was just a wonderful, wonderful 594 00:23:34,140 --> 00:23:35,180 film. I can't, 595 00:23:35,660 --> 00:23:36,880 give it enough accolades. 596 00:23:37,339 --> 00:23:39,019 Really had a good time. And I have 597 00:23:39,019 --> 00:23:41,505 one more question we didn't ask you. At 598 00:23:41,505 --> 00:23:44,065 one point, it looked like you had rigged 599 00:23:44,065 --> 00:23:45,125 up, like, 600 00:23:45,664 --> 00:23:46,484 a a sleeping 601 00:23:47,664 --> 00:23:48,164 harness 602 00:23:48,705 --> 00:23:50,964 when you were climbing. Did you guys sleep 603 00:23:52,865 --> 00:23:55,080 as you were climbing up that mountain, 604 00:23:56,820 --> 00:23:58,740 like, on the rock face? We spent 605 00:24:00,580 --> 00:24:02,980 yeah. We did. We spent five nights on 606 00:24:02,980 --> 00:24:03,940 the side of the wall 607 00:24:04,420 --> 00:24:06,279 Oh, wow. Climbing. So 608 00:24:06,914 --> 00:24:07,315 we, 609 00:24:07,875 --> 00:24:10,195 we had a little porter ledge that kinda 610 00:24:10,195 --> 00:24:12,035 hangs off. We try to find a big 611 00:24:12,035 --> 00:24:12,535 ledge, 612 00:24:12,835 --> 00:24:14,515 you know, so you could still cook, and 613 00:24:14,515 --> 00:24:16,355 we hung a little porter ledge off the 614 00:24:16,355 --> 00:24:17,414 side of the wall. 615 00:24:18,595 --> 00:24:20,775 And it was both of our first time 616 00:24:21,075 --> 00:24:21,575 ever 617 00:24:22,069 --> 00:24:23,829 really living on the side of the wall 618 00:24:23,829 --> 00:24:25,349 like that and camping on the side of 619 00:24:25,349 --> 00:24:27,289 the wall. So it was pretty exciting. 620 00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:30,869 But, yeah, I slept in my harness every 621 00:24:30,869 --> 00:24:31,369 night. 622 00:24:31,910 --> 00:24:34,230 Is that scary? Did you Just in case 623 00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:35,289 I rolled out. 624 00:24:35,954 --> 00:24:38,515 Because I would worry that somehow tossing and 625 00:24:38,515 --> 00:24:40,434 turning, I would wiggle the thing loose and 626 00:24:40,434 --> 00:24:41,654 go crashing down. 627 00:24:43,554 --> 00:24:45,875 Exactly. That's why I had a harness on, 628 00:24:45,875 --> 00:24:48,294 and I was clipped in separately. So 629 00:24:49,529 --> 00:24:51,789 I was backed up. That's good. 630 00:24:52,329 --> 00:24:54,809 Well, thank you so much, Sarah, for the 631 00:24:54,809 --> 00:24:57,690 conversation. It has been enlightening and fun, and 632 00:24:57,690 --> 00:24:59,369 I can't wait to see you over the 633 00:24:59,369 --> 00:25:01,769 summer when we actually get to meet you 634 00:25:01,769 --> 00:25:02,509 in person. 635 00:25:03,855 --> 00:25:06,095 That's it for this episode of the Wild 636 00:25:06,095 --> 00:25:07,315 Rivers Film Radio. 637 00:25:07,855 --> 00:25:09,474 To learn more about the festival, 638 00:25:09,855 --> 00:25:10,355 bypasses, 639 00:25:11,055 --> 00:25:11,555 volunteer, 640 00:25:12,095 --> 00:25:14,035 or explore sponsorship opportunities, 641 00:25:14,894 --> 00:25:17,795 visit wildriversfilmfestival.com. 642 00:25:18,130 --> 00:25:20,470 You can also follow us on Facebook, 643 00:25:20,929 --> 00:25:21,429 Instagram, 644 00:25:21,809 --> 00:25:22,309 TikTok, 645 00:25:22,609 --> 00:25:23,429 and YouTube. 646 00:25:24,369 --> 00:25:26,450 Yes. And thank you very much, Sarah. What 647 00:25:26,450 --> 00:25:28,390 a what a great, great story. 648 00:25:29,250 --> 00:25:31,569 And we'd also like to thank the folks 649 00:25:31,569 --> 00:25:34,934 that make this interview possible. Recording was Michael 650 00:25:34,934 --> 00:25:35,434 Gorse, 651 00:25:36,134 --> 00:25:38,555 sound mixing and editing, mister Tom Bozak, 652 00:25:38,934 --> 00:25:42,055 producer Sue Wright, and, of course, our guest, 653 00:25:42,055 --> 00:25:43,515 Sarah McNair Landry, 654 00:25:44,134 --> 00:25:47,490 and your host, Beth Juday, along with me, 655 00:25:47,490 --> 00:25:49,029 Rick McNamer, KCIW 656 00:25:49,410 --> 00:25:52,630 one hundred point seven FM, beautiful Brookings, Oregon. 657 00:25:52,849 --> 00:25:53,829 Thanks for listening, 658 00:25:54,130 --> 00:25:55,750 and we'll see you with the movies.