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Don't you agree, Donna? He might. I hope
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Today, we will discuss the fascia.
Fascia. Fascia.
And I want to thank Bill and Kathy
Maffet for suggesting this topic. Yes. Please reach
out to doctor Gigi like Bill and Kathy
did,
by sending her
a note at ggreed,reed,ggreedmd@gmail.com
and she will respond and possibly have a
show on,
segment on your questions.
Hey, doc. I'm on a 30 pound diet.
Did you know that? So what does that
mean? Oh, so far I've lost thirty days.
Okay. Take y'all. Take it over, doc.
So listen up. If you've ever stretched in
the morning and felt that deep, full body
pull,
not just in the muscles but everywhere,
that's the fascia talking, the one that we're
talking about. Alright. This thin, stretchy web of
connective tissue wraps all
around everything inside of around muscles inside muscles,
organs, bones, nerves, and blood vessels
holding the body together while keeping it mobile.
Wow. I don't wanna brag, doc, but, you
know, I've been hired as a fitness model.
I have been. Yep. The photographer said that
they'll be using my images
as the before pictures.
No. We need to Now wait a minute.
Back up. Are we this fascia are we
talking like the skin?
Sort of, but not. We're kind of talking
about
the inner lining under the skin. Think of
it as a Christmas gift that you Christmas
gifts. You open it up. First, you peel
off the pay the the wrapping paper Okay.
Okay. Wait a minute. You hear me tearing
it?
Okay. Which represents the skin. And then you
come to the box beneath. Yes. This is
the fascia. Thought it was my toy.
Fascia acts like a living bodysuit
made mostly of collagen and elastin fibers.
The collagen gives it strength. The elastin gives
it flexibility.
I see. Its layers
just beneath the skin, between the muscles, and
around the organs are all connected in one
basically continuous network from head to toe. When
the fascia is healthy,
it's an active player and a good active
player in how we move. Interesting. I'm I'm
in shape. I work out religiously
Mhmm. Every Easter and Christmas.
The fascia helps muscle contract efficiently,
distributes force through the body, and stabilizes
posture and joints. Last time we talked about
joints. Right? Yep. Supple fascia lets everything slide
and glide,
creating a fluid coordinated motion and reducing the
strain that leads to stiffness or injury. By
the way, Tony hasn't heard this joke, so
I'll throw it in because talking about the
joints. Right? You know I had to give
up marijuana recently because my cholesterol was getting
way too high.
No.
Doctor Gigi says that I'm getting fat. But
in my defense,
hey, I've had a lot on my plate
lately.
Okay. My favorite. That was my favorite. Okay.
A surprising
role of the fascia is that it houses
the body's awareness. It is filled with sensory
receptors
called proprioceptors
Oh, I can't pronounce that. That tell our
brain when our limbs are in space, where
they are in space, helping coordination and balance.
Now here's a little cool stuff. Nitbit tidbit.
In Parkinson disease, the information coming from these
proprioceptors
are not processed effectively in the brain
because the
necessary chemical called dopamine is not produced sufficiently
anymore.
So people with advanced Parkinson disease usually exhibit
a characteristic
broad based gait. A walk. A different walk?
Like broad based, like try potting it Yeah.
Really? Do to to potting it because of
reduced ankle position detection. Is that what Tom
had? Tom hurt his ankle. It's totally safe.
It's totally different about that. Right? It's totally
different. Yes. Alright. I've been working out on
my favorite machine at the gym, though. Really?
What? What machine? Yeah. The vending machine.
Yep. I'm there twenty four seven.
Unhealthy fascia means it is inflamed,
tight, or even infected.
So common problems
that are caused with by inflammation
is called anything blah blah fasciitis
fasciitis.
Two eyes, fasciitis.
So inflamed
fascia is thick and swollen and can cause
sharp or aching pain as in
plantar fasciitis
Oh, yeah. Or adhesive
capsulitis
or what we call frozen shoulder.
Plantar fasciitis might be caused by a heel
spur
or by not wearing arch support. I had
a cold frozen shoulder this morning out in
the snow.
It was pretty pretty bad. You know what
my favorite workout lately is, doctor? What? Fork
lifts.
From the table to my dog. You are
funny too, dear. Okay. I know. You just
Frozen shoulder can be caused by prolonged immobility.
Both conditions are basically all it is fasciitis
conditions are treated with stretching. For example, arch
support for the plantar fasciitis,
or you can use anti inflammatories.
Now there's something
and and frozen shoulder, same thing. You go
to physical therapy or you're just trying to
stretch your shoulder and get it back into
motion.
Now necrotizing fasciitis is Necrotizing,
that means deadly? Dead dying? It it like
the tissue gets eaten, going Oh. Going away.
Not fun. Necrotizing
fasciitis is a serious infection where bacteria
destroy
the fascia,
and they do it quickly.
So those are rare emergency situations.
It causes severe pain, spreading, redness, fever, and
needs immediate medical care because the fascia in
between the muscle bundles
gets eaten up. There's a lot of inflammation.
You can you can lose your muscles quite
a bit. Nectrotizing.
Yeah. Nectrotizing fast dieting. Dead things. So speaking
of dead things, what do you call a
dinosaur
that's just have had a heavy workout at
the gym, doctor? Oh, pretty tell. A kind
of sore. A kind of sore. I think
that's cute. That is cute. Okay. Thank you
for getting that.
I didn't see that coming.
To keep our fascia healthy
or to remedy everyday tightness or mild pain,
we can try the following.
Keep moving. Mhmm. Always gentle walking, stretching, or
mobility exercises keep the fascia supple.
We can massage sore spots or even get
something called myofascial release
done by a trained physical therapist who
put a lot of pressure in the sore
spot to release the muscle to release the
badness. Me all the time. Right? When I
have a I say, Oh, my back hurts.
And you'll say, Where? And you push on
it so hard. It's like, What are you
doing?
Yeah. Except Yeah. It hurt more, but then
you you know, you feel the knot. Yeah.
Right. That's what he does.
My favorite workout is a mix between a
lunge
and a crunch. What's that? It's called lunch.
Okay. Second favorite.
Okay. Almost at the end from my fantastic
dissertation on the fascia. Myofascial release is a
technique
that where massage or pressure is given just
at the right spot. So not everybody can
do it, including not me. So when I
put my my fist or my thumb into
where it hurts, that's just a massage, not
the myofascial
release.
Interestingly enough,
if we can manage stress and prioritize sleep,
it will help with myofascial
related pain.
This is because during prolonged stress, we make
a lot of cortisol Yeah. Cortisol. Which is
our primary stress hormone,
which you are making in the adrenal gland,
which then leads to increased
body wide
inflammation. Wow. Cortisol is what's the Our stress
hormone. Interesting.
Exercise doctor is like a drug to me.
Yeah. And I say no to drugs.
Okay?
No exercise, no drugs.
Alright. Thanks, doctor. Hey. Thanks, doctor Gigi. It
is, ramming fun here. That's for sure. Mhmm.
That was very interesting, and I'm glad that
Bill and Kathy, is it, reached out to
her. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Today's
guest is no stranger to our show. She's
joined us multiple times in the past and
has become a friend, both talented and kind.
Toni
Land is a beloved singer, songwriter, and guitarist,
well known around Brookings, Oregon and far, far
beyond.
She and her band, the Toni Land Band,
captivate audiences with their
original music. She's gifted, she's creative and deeply
poetic.
A true artist whose melodies and lyrics
really connect straight to the heart and we've
experienced this. Right. You'll see her, you know
what I'm talking about. There's a special kind
of magic when Toni performs.
Her songs shimmer and whimsy, emotional,
they speak of truth and offering reflections that
feel timeless
and shared with the human spirit
and experience.
So over the next twenty minutes,
we will be talking,
not listening to her music at this point,
but the next twenty minutes, we'll be just
talking with her about her music and creative
journey. And of course, in the last half
hour of this show, you'll get to hear
four or five of her wonderful songs that
are heart felt stories that we can all
relate to. So
without any further verbiage,
jokes from me,
let's welcome Toni Land to the Doc and
Jacques Radio Variety Show. Welcome, Toni. Welcome, Toni.
Thank you. So good to be here and
get all the jokes.
Thanks for laughing. Yeah. Yeah. You got it.
I didn't know that about fascia release exactly
what that meant in that. Yeah. It could
be really good. It's spelled the same way
as fascism. I we gotta look up fascism
again because it's why would that be called
fascism?
Right? It's totally not spelled. Oh, it's spelled
differently. I knew that. It's just testing you,
doc. Okay. Let's get back to Tonya Ann.
Let's introduce
how she started. Stop it. I blew it
again. Nothing again. What?
You're fired.
He bad. He was funny in the beginning.
Okay. I'm shutting my mouth. Is it No.
Tony, where were you born and raised? I
was born in Glendale,
California. Mhmm. Raised in pretty much the San
Fernando Valley. So I was one of the
true valley girls.
Valley girls. Nice. So what brought you here?
Wonderful coastal area. Yeah. I was well, I
have sisters that live here. Mhmm. And I
would always come and visit, and,
I just couldn't live without them. So I
moved back. Older sister lives here? Or a
couple of them? Yeah. No. Younger sister. I'm
the oldest out of five girls.
Wow. So yeah. Yeah. So there was already
two sisters that were living here.
And,
first, Terry came, and and she was the
first one. And then Laurie
Hey, Terry. And then Laurie came. Hey, Laurie.
Hey, Laurie. Yeah.
And then recently, Joni, my are they Joni?
Yeah. My sister. That's sister. There's four sisters
now in Brooklyn? She has a property here
now, and hopefully, she'll retire here. So Oh,
good. Very cool. Yeah. Laurie. Now you are
singer and songwriter. When did you actually write
your first song? Oh, gosh. I remember
it. I was in,
Carpenteria.
Do you know where that is? At Santa
Barbara? Okay. No.
I remember sitting at the piano and writing
my first song. It was called
Coffee Blues or Coffee
something
blues, something like that. It was terrible. You
know, it was awful. But,
yeah, I think that was I don't know
why. I just You wrote it on a
napkin? No. I wrote it on the piano.
I was already playing the piano. Gotcha. Yeah.
So piano was kind of my instrument. How
old were you?
I would have been College? I was in
college. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's when you started
writing? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Very good. Now
so
you went to college. You're an artist, and
you're on the stage, and you're recording studios,
but you do something else as well. What
is that? Probably what you went to college
for? Yes. I went to UCSB,
and, I have a master's degree in speech
pathology.
Dang.
And I do that,
and I work with little kids, mostly under
three.
And do they have something common usually there?
And why why would you work with, an
institute pathology?
They have red flags often for autism. Mhmm.
And,
usually, the main issue is that they're not
talking.
Mhmm. You know? Although there's other things going
on. Yeah. But yeah.
That's how the parents usually become most concerned
and then go to their doctor or go
to the regional center, and the regional center
contracts me to work with those kids and
those families. So it's pretty much an honor
to be able to have the parents in
the room,
unlike in a school situation, which I've worked
in plenty of that. But have them in
the room with us with the kids and
sometimes grandparents
and, you know, more the better. So the
whole team, you know, their team the kids'
team is with me and,
get to work with them and train them
up. And So who do who diagnosis these
children?
Basically spectrum or or do they don't have
to be on the spectrum. No. Mhmm.
They go through evaluation process,
and there's usually a speech therapist,
a psychologist.
Sometimes there's OTs,
not patient caretists or physical therapists involved.
And then at a certain point,
if they have red flags for the autism,
then the specialist that does that kind of
testing down in Humboldt County does the assessments,
and then
they,
you know, they diagnose Mhmm. That. Mhmm. Or
they don't, you know. They might say, well,
let's do it again later. So I I
remember you saying a few interviews ago
that,
if the kids are not talking,
the sooner you get your child in to
have that child evaluated, the better. That's right.
What's the youngest child you work with? I
think I've had them, like, 15.
Okay. And it they're usually brought in by
the parents who are saying, like, Junior is
not talking at all. Or At that point,
yeah.
Sometimes the doctor will notice that, but usually
it's the parents.
Maybe the grandparents notice that, especially if it's
your you know, a young couple has his
only child. How do they know? Right. Is
that late or not? And,
so yeah. So that so it's good because
even if they're really young,
I'm still working with the parents to set
up an environment that's gonna stimulate that language.
Right. And that and there's so much happening
before they start talking. Right. Joint attention, for
example.
You know, like, you
know Crawling. Right? Don't you have to have,
like, crawling exercises to I guess. I don't,
you know, I don't usually record that. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. And the back in the day,
right,
Gigi's only child's son, he was perfectly all
good.
He's fine. Lucas, he didn't speak until he
was how old? Four. Well, he spoke he
started speaking at three, but his real first
complete sentence was at four.
Wow. But the so people say because he
was growing up bilingually.
Yeah. She only spoke German with him. Right?
Still do. Yeah. Yeah. I think that it's
always fine to work with multiple languages when
they're young.
Kids sort that out in their brain. Yeah.
But that can put a little bit of
a delay maybe. But, you know, when you
say not speaking, not using,
you know, full sentences till four, that's not
so off to Oh, really? Okay. Good. So
it's kinda the rule of thumb is that
at about two Mhmm. They're well, about one,
they're using single words.
Mhmm. And sometimes you won't understand all those
because they're kinda word approximations.
Da instead of dog or something like that.
Uh-huh. Ba. Ba. Ba. Yeah. Yeah.
And then at at two,
usually, kids
are
they, you know, are using two and three
words or two words, you know, start to
combine words. Like, generally, what I see is
that if a kid gets about 50 words,
he starts to combine.
Interesting. Okay. Yeah. I don't know if I've
ever read that, but I've seen it because
I have done this for so many years.
So after about that long, they start to
combine words.
There's just more they have so much more
to say. You know? Right. Where do you
work?
I work,
in Crescent City
with kids there. It's part of the regional
center. K. And I see kids mostly now
at the family resource center. Okay. What is
it actually called? The resource center? The family
resource center is there's lots of things going
on there. They have a food bank. They
have
a playroom. They have sensory room. They it's
They got a garden. That They have a
garden in the back. That's right. They have
a little play yard on the side for
little guys, and it's such a cool
I don't know. Those people are just How
do how do you manage or how do
you balance your career and being the musician
you want? Naps.
Stand in, driving, whatever. Naps.
Yeah. It's,
it's rough. You know? It is rough.
I used to be able to do so
much. You know, I would go work full
time, working full time, and then, driving over
three, you know, six hours, three hours each
way to rehearse during the week. And then,
like, and then traveling and playing on the
weekends.
And then coming back and then we're I
I used to be able to do that,
but I can't do that. You deserve a
break today.
No. I work part time
is how I do it. Mhmm. You know,
I do what I used to do, but
I just do less of it. And it's
not hard work or it still is a
little bit? No. It's it's hard work. You're
still producing new songs. It's so, you know,
the the part time work is your part
time work Yeah. With the speech pathology.
But then the other stuff, you don't just
work two hours a day. I mean, you
know, when you're working on it, I'm sure
there's no time limit. I can't stop.
You can't. Yeah. I can't stop. It's like
I'm finally getting the hang of it. Of
stopping or
writing?
Well, I'm working. I'm almost done with my
eighth album. Yeah. That's why it came out
today. Yeah. No one's heard anything.
It's like a big secret because I wanted
to live in a bubble,
you know, about the songs. I didn't want
too much input on it, so
I wanted to
not share them. Are we are you gonna
share those? This is the first
time. Time.
I
know. So yeah. Very nice. We're honored. Yeah.
What's the best thing about being a musician?
And and then backtrack a little bit. What's
the best thing about your job? What are
you Okay. Yeah. I have a really good
life. You know, I have
this very satisfying
work with the families and the kids. And,
you know, after a certain length of time,
you just get pretty good at it. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, it's very creative just like
the music is. So I'm sitting there with
a child that I have to create something
for him, you know, how to work with
that child. Right. It's not like I can
just look it up in my book. You
know?
So it's creative that way. And then the
music, of course, I
I songwriting is really why I'm a musician.
That's my heart and soul. You know?
Wow.
True. Yeah. I can't I continue to write.
And, actually, I'm much more prolific than I
used to be now. But you've got eight
albums. Each album has what? 10 songs? Yeah.
Mostly. Yep. Sometimes you it's I have an
an EP also, which is five. But
yeah. And are these do they still we
we do know because we we have musical
guests on the show all the time. They
still are they coming back to printing records
again? I'm making records. Oh, yeah.
In terms of The CDs don't really sell.
I have a whole garage full of them.
You know?
You gave you gave us some. I get
everything. I kind of give them away. I
sell them once in a while. Thank you.
We we listen to them. Yeah. But I'm
gonna make some vinyl,
which is
a whole another thing I'm having to figure
out about mastering for vinyl versus for CDs.
And also these cool, they're about the size
of a business card.
They're USB,
little drives,
and they have some graphics on it. Yeah.
A little Wait. I've never seen that. Is
that a new way of Yeah. And so
you you you you well, you can plug
them in in your phone. Them in everything.
You can plug them in your car. You
can plug them into your computer and boom.
And plus, you can put all you can
put different kind of WIP files like m
p threes, your WAV files. Mhmm.
You can put lyrics
on them. And Where where's the studio? Where
do you record?
Oh, my kitchen.
Your kitchen. Not It's my kitchen.
Everything is getting cooked up in there. Oh
my gosh. I'm cooking it up in the
kitchen since the pandemic.
Right. Before that was always big recording studios.
But, we couldn't do that during the pandemic,
and I made that last album that I
gave you, Sunlit,
in the Kitchen, which was amazing. And after
that, I went, this is the way to
do it. The way to do it. Yeah.
There's no time clicking about, you know, click
click click. What happens if the smoke alarm
goes off? You just do it again.
It's recorded.
Again. I love it. I'm doing that. This
whole album has been in the kitchen with
my producer stuff. Oh, that's amazing. Portland. Okay.
Wait. In Port in Portland? Portland.
These new The producer is. Oh, oh, so
they can be up there and you're in
your kitchen Yeah. Here? Very nice. Can't really
tell. You know, these these studios are always
open. The new improved It's all just sending
files. It's all digital. Yeah. So you use,
you know, a certain kind of software
to record to and then you send those
files
to each other back and forth. So let's
let's go further in your head. What inspires
you to write the music and then playing
it in your kitchen? What how how do
you get to that point?
You know, I've been training myself to be
able to not have to be inspired.
Oh.
Because that's a very slow process. Yeah. Very
slow if you're just waiting for it to
hit you and, you know, boom. But once
you start writing more, which I've had to
push get pushed to do,
then it starts to become
just sit down and see what you get.
Woah. And I'm always get stuff.
I mean, most always. Not it may not
be great That's right. But I get stuff,
you know? I get. Yeah. So you get
the lyrics. They come first. And it get
that thing going. It's like,
it just is
amazing.
You are an achiever. That's for certain. And
now reflecting on that you were the first
born of five girls. Right? So you're the
eldest. You got
you got all the learning. Your parents learned
how to raise children Yeah. By you. You
were the example, so maybe that has something.
My mom was a driver of me. Yeah.
Yeah. Yes. You will go to college. I
knew in the third grade I was going
to college. So, yes, I knew that. So
what comes first when you do make it?
You do you come up with the lyrics,
and are they poems, or do you just
think of of the above. All of the
above. It just comes together. Of the above.
Sometimes it's a poem.
Sometimes it's just a word
Mhmm. Or or it's a picture. Like, I
had this this old song called Barefoot on
the Highway, and it was just a snapshot
of something Uh-huh. When I was driving down
the highway,
and I saw this person come out or
I heard somebody come out running out from
their back. Anyways,
so sometimes it's just a visual like that,
like, dying ain't no bigger
thing. I saw this gravedigger
making a grave, you know, in the rain,
and it was like, woah. That's something I
had never seen. So,
like, this new song, Little Soft Secret, which
I don't think I can play for you,
unfortunately, because I tried to and it didn't.
There are sometimes glitches in these files. Yeah.
But new just this car thing happens.
I was just walking in my neighborhood, right,
you know, down the street from here, basically,
and I saw this dead bird,
black, shiny dead bird. It was, like, so
beautiful, and I walked past it, and then
it was anyways, I had to walk past
it about three times till I really went,
woah.
Little soft secret. That's that song. Aw. Yeah.
Yeah. So So do you ever do the
opposite where you will be strumming on your
guitar and go, wow. That sounds really good.
I like that. And then you'll put words
to the the song? Yes. Yeah? I have
done I did a whole album that way,
back way back because I was kinda challenged
to do that.
Like, come on. Let's see if you can
do it that way. So that helped me
be able to go back and forth. Like,
sometimes writing from the music, sometimes writing from
the lyric,
and so on and go You got a
good memory, or do you jot these things
down on a piece of paper? Or
do you book them down? You do? Okay.
I can't remember anything. Of course. Those don't
work for you. I do really can't. Yeah.
I forgot my iPad. It had my wallet.
It hit the house there. I know. But
you got your haircut. I got my haircut.
Alright. I know. There's I have so many
songs. I cannot remember. I have to use
a notebook when I perform now, which isn't
it's humiliating, but,
I just gotta do it. No. And your
and your songs are so heartfelt. They're really
nice, and they're I don't know. They're just
nice to listen to. And Okay. We're gonna
need to take a break here in about
forty five seconds. But in the meantime, tell
us who the members of the Tony Land
Band are. Okay. The Tony Land Band first
of all, the recording is just me and
Jim Walker.
K. That's it. We do everything. He's a
multi instrumentalist,
and we both
sing, and we do all the harmony work.
Guitarist too? Oh, he's amazing. Isn't he your
neighbor?
No. Oh, that's That's a different one. Oh,
okay. This is the one up in Portland.
Oh. Okay. Dan Walker. Alright. He's awesome. He's
so Oh, wow. Wonderful to work with too.
Kim Devine? Kim Devine is my good friend,
and she's percussionist,
all that. Jim Bixler plays percussion
congas,
and then,
Larry Friess is a guitar player and singer.
Lots of harmony background stuff.
And he's from he's there. And then we
have Matt Stewart who also plays guitar, mandolin.
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Speaking with Toni Land, and we had just
a few more,
a few we got the people that are
in your band. Right? Yes. And we're gonna
start your music here. Just admit let's say
this right now. How do people get ahold
of you?
Okay. So I have a website, tonyland.com.
That's easy. Toni.
Yeah. Yes. Toni.
And,
you can just Google me too. I mean,
I just come up in all kinds of
ways. And also, you can get music on,
like, Spotify,
Apple
Music,
Amazon. K. Social media,
Facebook or anything like that?
Yeah.
Instagram
TikTok, Timook?
You know what? I'm really a firm believer
in email list. Okay. Or even texting. What's
your email?
No. I don't mean that. I'm just saying
about reaching people.
Right. Very specifically, most of all those people
have signed up on my email list when
they came to my gigs. Cool. So those
are people that are already engaged with me
and just developing that. The social media is
so big Yeah. And so spread out and
so huge.
And I've done that
some, but I'm pretty bad at it. Yeah.
Alright. Well I'm here. I live in this
town. This is my community. Right? Just looking
you up on Google. That's how we when
we first heard about you, I looked it
up. You're all over the place. Toni Land,
l a n d t o n I.
Alright. Michael Gorst, you give me a thumbs
up. We're gonna transition into her,
Tony's music.
Okay. And whenever you two are radio ready,
the radio.
Two radio? Then tell us about what we're
hearing and We're just not listening. I'm just
deciding because I'm looking at my little list
here. Okay. I don't have all the songs
here, but I do have, Oh, so the
new ones from Yeah. These are all just
from the new album. Nobody's heard these. First
time in town. Yeah. For now. Kitchen Blues.
Yeah. The Kitchen Blues.
Alright. This is a song called All That
Glitters.
And,
Jim and I, Jim Walker and I both,
went through the music scene in Los Angeles
in the eighties, and,
it was pretty treacherous.
And so this song is kind of
from both of us, you know Okay. Into
story form. Okay? Cool. Alright. Tony
She was hypnotized
by the jewel of lies
and sparkle
everywhere
she go.
Even sidewalks
seem to glow.
Some pretend they'll help you win. Fill your
glass up to the brim.
Sign the dotted line, say yes.
They'll take care of the rest.
Some people shine like gold, some can't do
it on their own.
Steal your hard earned claim,
instead of mining for the vein.
So return the borrowed gown,
gloves and shoes you found,
ones from the second hand store.
You won't need them
anymore.
All that glitters,
all that shimmers
can leave you
Alright.
Wow. Oh. It's like glittering. Very nice.
Loved it. Now do you play the guitar
on there?
I wrote the song on guitar, but I
didn't play the guitar. Because you usually do
play. Right? You yeah. Oh, okay. But you
I think you told us one time before
that you really like it when somebody else
can play the guitar because you're you're working
two dynamics. You're having to watch your hands
and where your fingers are. Yeah. And produce
the right sound and then you have to
sing. I I've always thought that's so amazing
about musicians that you're able to do that.
Yep. So that I get it. And I
It is. And another good thing about your
songs is I could hear every word. I
I understand Understand it. Word. Right?
And Well, she is you were talking about
thrift stores and hand me downs and shoes
that, you know, this is these are things
that many people in this world where we
deal with and day day to day. We're
not all billionaires.
And I think, that strikes a chord with
with so many interesting people. Alright. Thank you
for that. All this is Very cool. Note
this is your virgin review. That that I
know. I was so nervous. I was, like,
sweating.
I can't even look at you guys. Like
No. We No. It's like If you see
my head I loved it. If If you
see my head moving like this, you know,
I'm enjoying a different world. Just fake it.
Alright?
Alright. I'm gonna play another song. Okay. Let
me see. This is just a fun little
song called You Got Me.
Some of these are still in the process
of being names. Either you're gonna be You
Got Me or You Got Me Good. Well,
we got that You Really Got Me? You
Really Got Me? Me? Okay. Yeah. I can
maybe maybe it's You Got Me Good. Okay.
We got me, so I don't know what
I'm doing. Alright. You ready? Yep. We're ready.
Okay. This is a love song.
I don't even have a clue
what's going on with you. Don't make me
guess.
I'll just flunk this test.
Good news, bad news. You can tell me
everything.
You know I'm on your team.
You got me.
I'll be your Olivia Pope.
I'll cast you in and vote no
Oh, you got me.
Oh,
you got me.
All the joy and all the love.
Oh,
you got me.
The whole world
on.
Come on, take my hand.
I'm your biggest fan. Come on, come clean.
You got me.
You
got
me.
You got me.
Good.
Oh, that gave me goosebumps.
I was tapping my foot and that's true.
You cannot do that on live air. You
can't hear the bump bump. I heard it.
Oh, you heard it too? No. I didn't.
I didn't hear it. I heard that. It
was good. And that one,
I I I heard one lyric there that
it was the very beginning that, something that's
never I've never experienced, but it was about
flunking a test.
Yeah.
Okay. Never done that before ever in my
life. Never. Never. Never. Never. Never. Einstein and
and I both won't test
it. Okay. Alright.
Wonderful song. And again,
it appeals to you on
a on a emotional level. Mhmm. That's what
we that's what we like. We like to
hear songs that pick you up and kinda
Sweet. Put you in some place else.
Alright. We we got enough room. We got
about fifteen minutes, actually. We have more than
fifteen, so we could play. Oh, another thing
is your songs are not too long. They're
not they're not dragging on seven or eight
minutes. No. No. No. No. I'm cool. I've
been trained. You've been trained.
Weren't we all raised in the sixties, seventies,
and eighties? Right? You had a three minute
three minutes on. Yep. Three. I still do.
I try to keep it around three minutes.
Wow. But sometimes it goes to maybe four,
but, my Jim and I are both like,
oh, no. Too long. We gotta start chopping,
get rid of that. You know?
No. The long version, the LP version. No.
No. No. When I sing karaoke, I still
only sing one song. It's two minutes and
ten seconds long. Yeah. I left my heart
in San Francisco. It was only two minutes.
Two minutes and ten minutes. Two It's such
a big song. Two minutes and ten seconds.
Wow.
Yeah? Right? It's like a day. Yeah. I
I don't get much time. You know, people's
attention is so short. These sites, I think
going past three or four minutes is the
way you're pushing it. Yeah. Right on. Alright.
Let's see. Let's do,
okay. Do you wanna hear my party song?
Yeah. Party song. I know what you put
into your hair. Okay. This one
is I'm seeing you, Jacques, dancing your, you
know, tail off. Doing my well, I've got
my gal here. It's called
should've been a party. Should've been a party.
And what inspired it?
Party should didn't
Do you mind telling us? Or
It kinda was edited so many times. It
started out as a Halloween party.
Oh. And then I kinda broadened that idea
into just a party party.
Should've been a party. Well, here's the thing
is that I
typically
I'm all the this is the first time
I've ever done it this way, which is
before, I always had the songs all written,
and then I go in the studio.
But now, on this one, I'm writing them
as we go.
Mhmm. So
So I think, okay. Well, now let's see.
What do we mean now? We have this
kind. We have this kind now. This is
this was my upbeat crazy part of the
song. You're lucky you're so accomplished. You could
do that. So many artists would just say,
how could she do that? I don't know.
I couldn't I used to not be able
to do it, but now I can do
that. Yeah. You get it. Let's hear the
party song. What is it called? It should've
been a party? It should've been a party.
Right. The band could've been for the
Party.
Oh, excellent. Okay. I can't I can't wait
till the engineers have to go back and
try to mend this up, but you shouldn't.
It's natural. Is that the fur the unveiling
of that song? No one's heard that song.
Okay. So right now, that is a tag
along sing along. That's what I said. You
know what I said? I need I need
a sing along song. So this is the
sing along song. My goodness. It's gonna be
a big, big hit because it just gets
you in the mood. I know. And I
and I I know that lyric. I didn't
get the thing where you're so big. You
went like this, but I think I'm not
gonna exaggerate. And then you said, but such
a creep. Was that it? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
So the guy The first one was creep
and the second one was freak. A freak.
It was you know, I have to I
I was hoping I was hoping I think
Michael Gorse actually chimed in there. He was
kinda nodding his head. I thought there was
something coming out that wasn't from Yeah. Right.
He wasn't saying the big shaking his chin.
He wasn't saying the p word.
No. He wasn't.
Very cool song. Look at it. Song. Should've
Been a Party. There'd've Been a Party. Should've
Been a Party. Oh my god. Alright. Okay.
That's my new favorite song. Yeah. Alright. Well,
you should do maybe one more song. Yeah.
Alright. What can I do? Alright. I'm gonna
do I okay. This is the next song.
It's,
it's a crazy song, but it's one of
my favorite songs on the whole album. It's
called, well, what do you think? It's called
it's the ballad of DB Cooper.
Oh, the guy that jumped out of the
plane with all the Right. Okay. So what
do you know about him? Well, he landed
in the woods, and he died on a
tree. And they never found his body, but
the money was taken.
A bear, God. They never
you know what? That's only one of the
stories. Yeah. There's lots of them. Do you
have more on your song then? The the
real
Yeah. It's a mystery. They say he made
it and then he he lived for twenty
five years after. Well, let's just listen to
this song. Who is that? This is my
version of it. Okay?
My sources.
Yeah. My sources. This is called a tribute
to DB Cooper? It's called it's either gonna
be called
Ballad of DB
Cooper,
or it's gonna be called,
Good Trick. Good? Alright. Now you listen to
the song or you tell me, Good Trick.
Alright. Alright. He's my age, by the way,
if he were still alive. Anyways, there's so
many stories. And up in Washington when I
lived up there, there was a lot of
stories there because they think that's where he
jumped out of the plane,
and they didn't find him. But,
I never heard about the bear thing and
getting eaten. No. The bear got rich.
The bear was a golden bear. There you
go.
It was like he had a heavy partier.
Alright.
See, that's how these things get spread. Right.
Alright. Here it comes. Oh, let's see. Alright.
Look at the area. Valid as DB. Alright.
Here.
I am not a killer, mister FBI.
Needed just a little toad to get me
by.
You went to so much trouble
running me down.
A touchdown
fumble
in case you bungle.
I am am damn flattered, mister FBI.
I am no Houdini, but I did jump
from the sky.
You call me DB Cooper.
That's not my name.
It's just a
rumor.
Someone sends a humor.
It was a good trip
after all.
After all. My girlfriend thinks I'm sexy, mister
FBI.
Swears I'm a legend and I'm living that
life
Now I'm starring in the movies
You might have seen me
I'm spending
I just got away.
It was a good
All right. Oh wow. Okay. So wait a
minute. I'm still Does DB stand for dumbbell
or,
I mean, the That wasn't his name? And
then what is this about Judy? Was Judy
like Judy Garland or what? You know what?
You do your own homework. Okay. Okay. We're
we're gonna be heard here first, folks, from
Toni Ladd, who's holding her tongue on this.
So you're mocking
what are you Michael's been shaking his head
like he he gets it, but I don't.
It's a good trick. It is a good
trick, and that's a good, name for the
songs. Now your music is so
versatile.
You know, though the your CDs before and
when we came to see you, they were
more
more, you know, melodic
and Yeah. Hearty,
heart spelled. Still playing guitar on those, which
I Right. And now it's like party girl.
Yeah. Oh. That was come from a rock
and roll background, by the way.
I I you know, I don't know.
Yeah. Well,
yeah. It's been I'm I got a lot
of albums. You know, you do you go
through different phases. Yeah. Well, we heard three
of how many are gonna be on this?
How many songs? 10. Okay. So But you
haven't heard there's a there's some other beautiful,
really beautiful songs. Well, we just heard four.
You treated our listening diets in forever because
this becomes podcast in, real soon. I didn't
know what to play what I was gonna
play, and I suffered over that. And then
I and then I didn't play anything I
was gonna play and because Well, these were
fantastic,
episodes. The songs were great. They're so versatile.
Very nice. More so more so than I
any other year. I really liked it. I
mean Okay. Seriously, I'm in the moment right
now, and I'm just like, yeah. Party.
No party's on. Yeah.
Then jump out the jump out the airplane
without a parachute.
Wow. What a great thing. So maybe maybe
I'm thinking it was just all a
ploy, but Are we still on DB Coop?
Yeah.
Oh, no. But give me one hint so
I can take it home and figure it
out. No hints. Oh, no. You gotta do
your own research because it's all over the
board. I see. People like he still lives,
and if he you know? Correct. I was
gonna put a that it made the song
too long. Remember I told you Yeah. Shopping.
I was gonna put this little section in
there about,
that he that DB Cooper left the pot
of, you know, money buried, and he was
I was gonna tell him where it was.
You know? Right. But,
yeah, I had to cut you know, it's
like and also, when you're cutting and editing,
which is really the
big
thing about
good songwriting in my book, is that you
cut out stuff that doesn't
need to be there. Got it. It's painful
too. It's like, oh, I love it. I
know.
You gotta trim, like, trim the cakes. Yeah.
So that there's one I main one idea.
It's like people that are writing books. That's
what I think too happens in the beginning.
Their books could be, like, three or four
books. You know? Three or four stories. Cut
it down. They can't And it's the editing
process, which is Yeah. You know? Oh, cool.
They have to be brutal. So
what was your partner's name?
Jim Walker. Jim. Jim Walker. So he does
the all the little,
harmony
part. Yeah. We do those together.
Cool. So then you meet up. What about
our boys and girls? Just work really good
together. It's another kind of magical thing to
tell. It sounds like a choir back there,
but the truth is it's just Tim and
I going I know that. It's so cool
with a party too. All those people rocking.
Yeah. Oh,
actually, the that was like a clip some
from, you know, like a little sample of
that one when Yeah. Yeah. So they were
actual people. Like, we did a song called
Frankenstein
on one song that, one
album that we had.
And, we use clips from the old original
Frankenstein
movie. Right. So, anyways, you we have that
technology too. Tony Land in the studio today.
We need to wrap this up ASAP, doc.
Let's do it. Thank you, Tony, for coming
to you. My pleasure going to our show.
Virgin Sock. Play. Very cool. Alright. Thank you,
man. Love it. Love it. Love it. Do
you have a quote or a joke? Nope.
Let's go. We have no time. We have
to do, we we are We have over
a minute, girlfriend,
boyfriend. Just got the the engineer gave me
the one finger. Oh, it was his middle
finger he gave me. Oh. Okay. I have
one quote. I thought he was. I have
one quote. What's that? Fascia remembers what the
mind forgets. So there. Fascism. It remembers what
the Yeah. Okay. Great. Hey. By the way,
next week, we've got another
musical duo duo with Rogue String comes on
live. Yana and Lacey Young and Yana,
Laub are gonna be on the air. We're
really proud that we've, had Tony land on
it. Yes. And you're welcome. Thank you. Thank
you. Very privileged.
But guess what? We all have been listening
to the Doc and Jacques
show on KCIW
one hundred point seven FM in Brookings, Oregon.
We hope you enjoyed the show as much
as we have.
Learning about Toni Lynn and listening to her
great music here at the KCOW
studio.
Indeed. Peace and prosperity to everyone out there.
Thanks again.
Michael Gorse for coming in to have a
rescue. We really appreciate it. And and Tom
Bozek, we're coming up to your house now,
so get ready. Doctors gotta look at your
ankle. Everybody have fun. Stay tuned for
Tony Durusso
show right now. Thank you much. Peace and
love.