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Welcome, everyone.

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You have now entered the cosmic radio receptors

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located just a few miles north of the

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California border in lovely coastal Brookings in Oregon.

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Thank you for tuning into this week's interesting

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program.

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I'm doctor Gigi, and my cohost is, as

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always, Jacques Kepner. How are you today, Jacques?

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Great, doctor. Greetings, everyone, and welcome to the

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Doc and Jacques Radio Variety Show. Special thanks

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to today's sound engineer and all around happy

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and industrious man, Michael Gorse,

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who once again is filling in for Tom

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Bozak and Ray Simon. I think Tom Bozak

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needs to see a doctor.

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Don't you agree, Donna? He might. I hope

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your, your ankle's on the mend. Yeah. Tom

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and Ray is out of town.

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But, thanks. We we bow low very low

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for Michael Gorst being in here doing what

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his magic that he does in the engineers

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booth. You're hearing this live syndicated show on

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in Brookings, Oregon. That said, the same syndicated

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show will be rebroadcast at exactly one week

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from now each and every Wednesday at 8AM

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Hello to all of you down there. And

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then a few hours later at 1PM on

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my old alma mater, KFUG one hundred and

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California. So there you go.

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Now you know Doctor. Gigi and I have

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got your coasts

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covered.

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All right.

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Let's see, doc.

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It's that time when good medicine and health

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tips are colorfully

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presented by my German American practicing metal medical

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doctor

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who is also a research scientist

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holding for DNA technology patents in her name,

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university professor, artist, newspaper columnist, and syndicated broadcaster,

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and so much more.

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I'm not bragging on you. Trust me. Okay.

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Did I mention her incredibly emotional work as

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our region's hospice physician? Well, enough said about

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that. What medical marbles do you have for

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us today on this week's

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health segment,

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MDGG?

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Well, thank you. And you are the colorful

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part, by the way. Right? Oh, you're wearing

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an orange sweater that's pretty

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sharp. Did you get that from Timo?

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Today, we will discuss the fascia.

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Fascia. Fascia.

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And I want to thank Bill and Kathy

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Maffet for suggesting this topic. Yes. Please reach

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out to doctor Gigi like Bill and Kathy

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did,

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by sending her

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a note at ggreed,reed,ggreedmd@gmail.com

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and she will respond and possibly have a

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show on,

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segment on your questions.

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Hey, doc. I'm on a 30 pound diet.

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Did you know that? So what does that

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mean? Oh, so far I've lost thirty days.

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Okay. Take y'all. Take it over, doc.

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So listen up. If you've ever stretched in

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the morning and felt that deep, full body

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pull,

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not just in the muscles but everywhere,

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that's the fascia talking, the one that we're

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talking about. Alright. This thin, stretchy web of

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connective tissue wraps all

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around everything inside of around muscles inside muscles,

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organs, bones, nerves, and blood vessels

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holding the body together while keeping it mobile.

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Wow. I don't wanna brag, doc, but, you

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know, I've been hired as a fitness model.

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I have been. Yep. The photographer said that

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they'll be using my images

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as the before pictures.

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No. We need to Now wait a minute.

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Back up. Are we this fascia are we

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talking like the skin?

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Sort of, but not. We're kind of talking

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the inner lining under the skin. Think of

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it as a Christmas gift that you Christmas

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gifts. You open it up. First, you peel

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off the pay the the wrapping paper Okay.

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Okay. Wait a minute. You hear me tearing

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Okay. Which represents the skin. And then you

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come to the box beneath. Yes. This is

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the fascia. Thought it was my toy.

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Fascia acts like a living bodysuit

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made mostly of collagen and elastin fibers.

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The collagen gives it strength. The elastin gives

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it flexibility.

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I see. Its layers

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just beneath the skin, between the muscles, and

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around the organs are all connected in one

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basically continuous network from head to toe. When

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the fascia is healthy,

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it's an active player and a good active

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player in how we move. Interesting. I'm I'm

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in shape. I work out religiously

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Mhmm. Every Easter and Christmas.

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The fascia helps muscle contract efficiently,

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distributes force through the body, and stabilizes

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posture and joints. Last time we talked about

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joints. Right? Yep. Supple fascia lets everything slide

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and glide,

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creating a fluid coordinated motion and reducing the

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strain that leads to stiffness or injury. By

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the way, Tony hasn't heard this joke, so

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I'll throw it in because talking about the

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joints. Right? You know I had to give

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up marijuana recently because my cholesterol was getting

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way too high.

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Doctor Gigi says that I'm getting fat. But

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in my defense,

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hey, I've had a lot on my plate

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lately.

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Okay. My favorite. That was my favorite. Okay.

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A surprising

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role of the fascia is that it houses

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the body's awareness. It is filled with sensory

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receptors

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called proprioceptors

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Oh, I can't pronounce that. That tell our

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brain when our limbs are in space, where

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they are in space, helping coordination and balance.

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Now here's a little cool stuff. Nitbit tidbit.

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In Parkinson disease, the information coming from these

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proprioceptors

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are not processed effectively in the brain

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because the

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necessary chemical called dopamine is not produced sufficiently

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So people with advanced Parkinson disease usually exhibit

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a characteristic

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broad based gait. A walk. A different walk?

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Like broad based, like try potting it Yeah.

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Really? Do to to potting it because of

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reduced ankle position detection. Is that what Tom

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had? Tom hurt his ankle. It's totally safe.

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It's totally different about that. Right? It's totally

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different. Yes. Alright. I've been working out on

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my favorite machine at the gym, though. Really?

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What? What machine? Yeah. The vending machine.

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Yep. I'm there twenty four seven.

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Unhealthy fascia means it is inflamed,

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tight, or even infected.

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So common problems

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that are caused with by inflammation

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is called anything blah blah fasciitis

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fasciitis.

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Two eyes, fasciitis.

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So inflamed

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fascia is thick and swollen and can cause

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sharp or aching pain as in

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plantar fasciitis

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capsulitis

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or what we call frozen shoulder.

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Plantar fasciitis might be caused by a heel

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spur

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or by not wearing arch support. I had

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a cold frozen shoulder this morning out in

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the snow.

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It was pretty pretty bad. You know what

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my favorite workout lately is, doctor? What? Fork

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lifts.

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From the table to my dog. You are

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funny too, dear. Okay. I know. You just

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Frozen shoulder can be caused by prolonged immobility.

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Both conditions are basically all it is fasciitis

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conditions are treated with stretching. For example, arch

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support for the plantar fasciitis,

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or you can use anti inflammatories.

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and and frozen shoulder, same thing. You go

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to physical therapy or you're just trying to

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stretch your shoulder and get it back into

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motion.

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Now necrotizing fasciitis is Necrotizing,

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that means deadly? Dead dying? It it like

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the tissue gets eaten, going Oh. Going away.

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Not fun. Necrotizing

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fasciitis is a serious infection where bacteria

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destroy

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the fascia,

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and they do it quickly.

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So those are rare emergency situations.

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It causes severe pain, spreading, redness, fever, and

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needs immediate medical care because the fascia in

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between the muscle bundles

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gets eaten up. There's a lot of inflammation.

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You can you can lose your muscles quite

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a bit. Nectrotizing.

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Yeah. Nectrotizing fast dieting. Dead things. So speaking

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of dead things, what do you call a

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dinosaur

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that's just have had a heavy workout at

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the gym, doctor? Oh, pretty tell. A kind

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of sore. A kind of sore. I think

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that's cute. That is cute. Okay. Thank you

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for getting that.

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I didn't see that coming.

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To keep our fascia healthy

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or to remedy everyday tightness or mild pain,

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we can try the following.

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Keep moving. Mhmm. Always gentle walking, stretching, or

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mobility exercises keep the fascia supple.

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We can massage sore spots or even get

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something called myofascial release

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done by a trained physical therapist who

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put a lot of pressure in the sore

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spot to release the muscle to release the

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badness. Me all the time. Right? When I

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have a I say, Oh, my back hurts.

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And you'll say, Where? And you push on

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it so hard. It's like, What are you

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doing?

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Yeah. Except Yeah. It hurt more, but then

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you you know, you feel the knot. Yeah.

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Right. That's what he does.

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My favorite workout is a mix between a

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lunge

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and a crunch. What's that? It's called lunch.

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Okay. Second favorite.

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Okay. Almost at the end from my fantastic

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dissertation on the fascia. Myofascial release is a

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technique

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that where massage or pressure is given just

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at the right spot. So not everybody can

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do it, including not me. So when I

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put my my fist or my thumb into

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where it hurts, that's just a massage, not

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the myofascial

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release.

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Interestingly enough,

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if we can manage stress and prioritize sleep,

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it will help with myofascial

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related pain.

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This is because during prolonged stress, we make

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a lot of cortisol Yeah. Cortisol. Which is

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our primary stress hormone,

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which you are making in the adrenal gland,

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which then leads to increased

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body wide

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inflammation. Wow. Cortisol is what's the Our stress

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hormone. Interesting.

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Exercise doctor is like a drug to me.

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Yeah. And I say no to drugs.

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Okay?

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No exercise, no drugs.

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Alright. Thanks, doctor. Hey. Thanks, doctor Gigi. It

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is, ramming fun here. That's for sure. Mhmm.

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That was very interesting, and I'm glad that

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Bill and Kathy, is it, reached out to

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her. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Today's

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guest is no stranger to our show. She's

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joined us multiple times in the past and

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has become a friend, both talented and kind.

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Toni

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Land is a beloved singer, songwriter, and guitarist,

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well known around Brookings, Oregon and far, far

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beyond.

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She and her band, the Toni Land Band,

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captivate audiences with their

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original music. She's gifted, she's creative and deeply

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poetic.

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A true artist whose melodies and lyrics

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really connect straight to the heart and we've

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experienced this. Right. You'll see her, you know

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what I'm talking about. There's a special kind

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of magic when Toni performs.

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Her songs shimmer and whimsy, emotional,

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they speak of truth and offering reflections that

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feel timeless

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and shared with the human spirit

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and experience.

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So over the next twenty minutes,

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we will be talking,

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not listening to her music at this point,

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but the next twenty minutes, we'll be just

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talking with her about her music and creative

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journey. And of course, in the last half

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hour of this show, you'll get to hear

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four or five of her wonderful songs that

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are heart felt stories that we can all

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relate to. So

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without any further verbiage,

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jokes from me,

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let's welcome Toni Land to the Doc and

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Jacques Radio Variety Show. Welcome, Toni. Welcome, Toni.

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Thank you. So good to be here and

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get all the jokes.

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Thanks for laughing. Yeah. Yeah. You got it.

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I didn't know that about fascia release exactly

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what that meant in that. Yeah. It could

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be really good. It's spelled the same way

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as fascism. I we gotta look up fascism

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again because it's why would that be called

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fascism?

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Right? It's totally not spelled. Oh, it's spelled

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differently. I knew that. It's just testing you,

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doc. Okay. Let's get back to Tonya Ann.

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Let's introduce

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how she started. Stop it. I blew it

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again. Nothing again. What?

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You're fired.

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He bad. He was funny in the beginning.

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Okay. I'm shutting my mouth. Is it No.

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Tony, where were you born and raised? I

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was born in Glendale,

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California. Mhmm. Raised in pretty much the San

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Fernando Valley. So I was one of the

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true valley girls.

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Valley girls. Nice. So what brought you here?

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Wonderful coastal area. Yeah. I was well, I

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have sisters that live here. Mhmm. And I

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would always come and visit, and,

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I just couldn't live without them. So I

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moved back. Older sister lives here? Or a

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couple of them? Yeah. No. Younger sister. I'm

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the oldest out of five girls.

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Wow. So yeah. Yeah. So there was already

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two sisters that were living here.

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And,

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first, Terry came, and and she was the

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first one. And then Laurie

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Hey, Terry. And then Laurie came. Hey, Laurie.

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Hey, Laurie. Yeah.

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And then recently, Joni, my are they Joni?

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Yeah. My sister. That's sister. There's four sisters

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now in Brooklyn? She has a property here

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now, and hopefully, she'll retire here. So Oh,

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good. Very cool. Yeah. Laurie. Now you are

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singer and songwriter. When did you actually write

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your first song? Oh, gosh. I remember

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it. I was in,

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Carpenteria.

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Do you know where that is? At Santa

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Barbara? Okay. No.

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I remember sitting at the piano and writing

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my first song. It was called

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Coffee Blues or Coffee

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something

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blues, something like that. It was terrible. You

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know, it was awful. But,

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yeah, I think that was I don't know

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why. I just You wrote it on a

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napkin? No. I wrote it on the piano.

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I was already playing the piano. Gotcha. Yeah.

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So piano was kind of my instrument. How

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old were you?

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I would have been College? I was in

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college. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's when you started

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writing? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Very good. Now

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so

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you went to college. You're an artist, and

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you're on the stage, and you're recording studios,

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but you do something else as well. What

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is that? Probably what you went to college

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for? Yes. I went to UCSB,

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and, I have a master's degree in speech

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pathology.

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Dang.

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And I do that,

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and I work with little kids, mostly under

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three.

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And do they have something common usually there?

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And why why would you work with, an

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institute pathology?

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They have red flags often for autism. Mhmm.

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And,

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usually, the main issue is that they're not

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talking.

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Mhmm. You know? Although there's other things going

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on. Yeah. But yeah.

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That's how the parents usually become most concerned

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and then go to their doctor or go

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to the regional center, and the regional center

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contracts me to work with those kids and

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those families. So it's pretty much an honor

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to be able to have the parents in

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the room,

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unlike in a school situation, which I've worked

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in plenty of that. But have them in

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the room with us with the kids and

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sometimes grandparents

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and, you know, more the better. So the

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whole team, you know, their team the kids'

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team is with me and,

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get to work with them and train them

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up. And So who do who diagnosis these

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children?

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Basically spectrum or or do they don't have

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to be on the spectrum. No. Mhmm.

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They go through evaluation process,

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and there's usually a speech therapist,

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a psychologist.

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Sometimes there's OTs,

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not patient caretists or physical therapists involved.

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And then at a certain point,

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if they have red flags for the autism,

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then the specialist that does that kind of

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testing down in Humboldt County does the assessments,

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and then

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they,

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you know, they diagnose Mhmm. That. Mhmm. Or

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they don't, you know. They might say, well,

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let's do it again later. So I I

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remember you saying a few interviews ago

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that,

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if the kids are not talking,

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the sooner you get your child in to

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have that child evaluated, the better. That's right.

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What's the youngest child you work with? I

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think I've had them, like, 15.

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Okay. And it they're usually brought in by

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the parents who are saying, like, Junior is

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not talking at all. Or At that point,

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yeah.

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Sometimes the doctor will notice that, but usually

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it's the parents.

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Maybe the grandparents notice that, especially if it's

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your you know, a young couple has his

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only child. How do they know? Right. Is

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that late or not? And,

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so yeah. So that so it's good because

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even if they're really young,

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I'm still working with the parents to set

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up an environment that's gonna stimulate that language.

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Right. And that and there's so much happening

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before they start talking. Right. Joint attention, for

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example.

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You know, like, you

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know Crawling. Right? Don't you have to have,

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like, crawling exercises to I guess. I don't,

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you know, I don't usually record that. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. And the back in the day,

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right,

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Gigi's only child's son, he was perfectly all

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good.

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He's fine. Lucas, he didn't speak until he

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was how old? Four. Well, he spoke he

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started speaking at three, but his real first

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complete sentence was at four.

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Wow. But the so people say because he

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was growing up bilingually.

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Yeah. She only spoke German with him. Right?

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Still do. Yeah. Yeah. I think that it's

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always fine to work with multiple languages when

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they're young.

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Kids sort that out in their brain. Yeah.

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But that can put a little bit of

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a delay maybe. But, you know, when you

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say not speaking, not using,

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you know, full sentences till four, that's not

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so off to Oh, really? Okay. Good. So

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it's kinda the rule of thumb is that

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at about two Mhmm. They're well, about one,

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they're using single words.

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Mhmm. And sometimes you won't understand all those

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because they're kinda word approximations.

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Da instead of dog or something like that.

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Uh-huh. Ba. Ba. Ba. Yeah. Yeah.

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And then at at two,

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usually, kids

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are

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they, you know, are using two and three

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words or two words, you know, start to

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combine words. Like, generally, what I see is

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that if a kid gets about 50 words,

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he starts to combine.

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Interesting. Okay. Yeah. I don't know if I've

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ever read that, but I've seen it because

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I have done this for so many years.

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So after about that long, they start to

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combine words.

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There's just more they have so much more

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to say. You know? Right. Where do you

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work?

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I work,

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in Crescent City

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with kids there. It's part of the regional

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center. K. And I see kids mostly now

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at the family resource center. Okay. What is

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it actually called? The resource center? The family

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resource center is there's lots of things going

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on there. They have a food bank. They

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have

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a playroom. They have sensory room. They it's

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They got a garden. That They have a

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garden in the back. That's right. They have

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a little play yard on the side for

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little guys, and it's such a cool

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I don't know. Those people are just How

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do how do you manage or how do

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you balance your career and being the musician

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you want? Naps.

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Stand in, driving, whatever. Naps.

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Yeah. It's,

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it's rough. You know? It is rough.

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I used to be able to do so

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much. You know, I would go work full

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time, working full time, and then, driving over

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three, you know, six hours, three hours each

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way to rehearse during the week. And then,

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like, and then traveling and playing on the

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weekends.

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And then coming back and then we're I

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I used to be able to do that,

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but I can't do that. You deserve a

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break today.

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No. I work part time

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is how I do it. Mhmm. You know,

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I do what I used to do, but

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I just do less of it. And it's

534
00:20:44,019 --> 00:20:45,619
not hard work or it still is a

535
00:20:45,619 --> 00:20:47,744
little bit? No. It's it's hard work. You're

536
00:20:47,744 --> 00:20:50,545
still producing new songs. It's so, you know,

537
00:20:50,545 --> 00:20:52,464
the the part time work is your part

538
00:20:52,464 --> 00:20:54,565
time work Yeah. With the speech pathology.

539
00:20:54,945 --> 00:20:57,025
But then the other stuff, you don't just

540
00:20:57,025 --> 00:20:59,265
work two hours a day. I mean, you

541
00:20:59,265 --> 00:21:00,945
know, when you're working on it, I'm sure

542
00:21:00,945 --> 00:21:03,125
there's no time limit. I can't stop.

543
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,819
You can't. Yeah. I can't stop. It's like

544
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,839
I'm finally getting the hang of it. Of

545
00:21:08,839 --> 00:21:09,819
stopping or

546
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:10,859
writing?

547
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,079
Well, I'm working. I'm almost done with my

548
00:21:13,079 --> 00:21:16,039
eighth album. Yeah. That's why it came out

549
00:21:16,039 --> 00:21:18,859
today. Yeah. No one's heard anything.

550
00:21:19,214 --> 00:21:21,054
It's like a big secret because I wanted

551
00:21:21,054 --> 00:21:22,674
to live in a bubble,

552
00:21:23,294 --> 00:21:25,454
you know, about the songs. I didn't want

553
00:21:25,454 --> 00:21:27,154
too much input on it, so

554
00:21:27,454 --> 00:21:28,434
I wanted to

555
00:21:28,734 --> 00:21:30,974
not share them. Are we are you gonna

556
00:21:30,974 --> 00:21:32,549
share those? This is the first

557
00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:34,009
time. Time.

558
00:21:34,309 --> 00:21:34,809
I

559
00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:39,990
know. So yeah. Very nice. We're honored. Yeah.

560
00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:42,009
What's the best thing about being a musician?

561
00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:44,150
And and then backtrack a little bit. What's

562
00:21:44,150 --> 00:21:45,750
the best thing about your job? What are

563
00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:47,670
you Okay. Yeah. I have a really good

564
00:21:47,670 --> 00:21:49,005
life. You know, I have

565
00:21:49,384 --> 00:21:50,605
this very satisfying

566
00:21:51,224 --> 00:21:53,644
work with the families and the kids. And,

567
00:21:53,785 --> 00:21:55,544
you know, after a certain length of time,

568
00:21:55,544 --> 00:21:57,224
you just get pretty good at it. Yeah.

569
00:21:57,224 --> 00:21:59,464
Yeah. You know, it's very creative just like

570
00:21:59,464 --> 00:22:01,390
the music is. So I'm sitting there with

571
00:22:01,390 --> 00:22:03,710
a child that I have to create something

572
00:22:03,710 --> 00:22:05,950
for him, you know, how to work with

573
00:22:05,950 --> 00:22:07,549
that child. Right. It's not like I can

574
00:22:07,549 --> 00:22:09,230
just look it up in my book. You

575
00:22:09,230 --> 00:22:09,730
know?

576
00:22:10,029 --> 00:22:12,269
So it's creative that way. And then the

577
00:22:12,269 --> 00:22:13,809
music, of course, I

578
00:22:14,674 --> 00:22:17,255
I songwriting is really why I'm a musician.

579
00:22:17,875 --> 00:22:19,974
That's my heart and soul. You know?

580
00:22:20,275 --> 00:22:20,775
Wow.

581
00:22:21,394 --> 00:22:23,875
True. Yeah. I can't I continue to write.

582
00:22:23,875 --> 00:22:25,954
And, actually, I'm much more prolific than I

583
00:22:25,954 --> 00:22:28,160
used to be now. But you've got eight

584
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,279
albums. Each album has what? 10 songs? Yeah.

585
00:22:31,279 --> 00:22:34,079
Mostly. Yep. Sometimes you it's I have an

586
00:22:34,079 --> 00:22:36,259
an EP also, which is five. But

587
00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:39,599
yeah. And are these do they still we

588
00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:41,859
we do know because we we have musical

589
00:22:42,285 --> 00:22:43,965
guests on the show all the time. They

590
00:22:43,965 --> 00:22:46,445
still are they coming back to printing records

591
00:22:46,445 --> 00:22:48,705
again? I'm making records. Oh, yeah.

592
00:22:49,404 --> 00:22:51,825
In terms of The CDs don't really sell.

593
00:22:52,205 --> 00:22:53,965
I have a whole garage full of them.

594
00:22:53,965 --> 00:22:54,545
You know?

595
00:22:54,869 --> 00:22:56,710
You gave you gave us some. I get

596
00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:58,309
everything. I kind of give them away. I

597
00:22:58,309 --> 00:22:59,349
sell them once in a while. Thank you.

598
00:22:59,349 --> 00:23:00,869
We we listen to them. Yeah. But I'm

599
00:23:00,869 --> 00:23:02,490
gonna make some vinyl,

600
00:23:02,869 --> 00:23:03,529
which is

601
00:23:03,910 --> 00:23:05,750
a whole another thing I'm having to figure

602
00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:09,049
out about mastering for vinyl versus for CDs.

603
00:23:09,765 --> 00:23:12,644
And also these cool, they're about the size

604
00:23:12,644 --> 00:23:14,184
of a business card.

605
00:23:14,565 --> 00:23:15,705
They're USB,

606
00:23:16,964 --> 00:23:17,785
little drives,

607
00:23:18,484 --> 00:23:20,085
and they have some graphics on it. Yeah.

608
00:23:20,085 --> 00:23:21,684
A little Wait. I've never seen that. Is

609
00:23:21,684 --> 00:23:24,109
that a new way of Yeah. And so

610
00:23:24,109 --> 00:23:26,269
you you you you well, you can plug

611
00:23:26,269 --> 00:23:27,950
them in in your phone. Them in everything.

612
00:23:27,950 --> 00:23:29,470
You can plug them in your car. You

613
00:23:29,470 --> 00:23:31,470
can plug them into your computer and boom.

614
00:23:31,470 --> 00:23:32,990
And plus, you can put all you can

615
00:23:32,990 --> 00:23:35,484
put different kind of WIP files like m

616
00:23:35,484 --> 00:23:37,585
p threes, your WAV files. Mhmm.

617
00:23:38,284 --> 00:23:39,904
You can put lyrics

618
00:23:40,365 --> 00:23:42,365
on them. And Where where's the studio? Where

619
00:23:42,365 --> 00:23:43,184
do you record?

620
00:23:43,964 --> 00:23:45,184
Oh, my kitchen.

621
00:23:45,484 --> 00:23:47,585
Your kitchen. Not It's my kitchen.

622
00:23:47,964 --> 00:23:50,069
Everything is getting cooked up in there. Oh

623
00:23:50,069 --> 00:23:51,429
my gosh. I'm cooking it up in the

624
00:23:51,429 --> 00:23:52,890
kitchen since the pandemic.

625
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:55,929
Right. Before that was always big recording studios.

626
00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:59,049
But, we couldn't do that during the pandemic,

627
00:23:59,109 --> 00:24:00,869
and I made that last album that I

628
00:24:00,869 --> 00:24:01,769
gave you, Sunlit,

629
00:24:02,524 --> 00:24:04,924
in the Kitchen, which was amazing. And after

630
00:24:04,924 --> 00:24:07,085
that, I went, this is the way to

631
00:24:07,085 --> 00:24:08,444
do it. The way to do it. Yeah.

632
00:24:08,444 --> 00:24:10,684
There's no time clicking about, you know, click

633
00:24:10,684 --> 00:24:12,125
click click. What happens if the smoke alarm

634
00:24:12,125 --> 00:24:14,384
goes off? You just do it again.

635
00:24:15,164 --> 00:24:15,984
It's recorded.

636
00:24:16,529 --> 00:24:18,769
Again. I love it. I'm doing that. This

637
00:24:18,769 --> 00:24:20,529
whole album has been in the kitchen with

638
00:24:20,529 --> 00:24:23,269
my producer stuff. Oh, that's amazing. Portland. Okay.

639
00:24:23,410 --> 00:24:25,590
Wait. In Port in Portland? Portland.

640
00:24:26,130 --> 00:24:28,609
These new The producer is. Oh, oh, so

641
00:24:28,609 --> 00:24:29,809
they can be up there and you're in

642
00:24:29,809 --> 00:24:31,970
your kitchen Yeah. Here? Very nice. Can't really

643
00:24:31,970 --> 00:24:34,345
tell. You know, these these studios are always

644
00:24:34,345 --> 00:24:36,744
open. The new improved It's all just sending

645
00:24:36,744 --> 00:24:39,305
files. It's all digital. Yeah. So you use,

646
00:24:39,305 --> 00:24:41,005
you know, a certain kind of software

647
00:24:41,545 --> 00:24:43,464
to record to and then you send those

648
00:24:43,464 --> 00:24:43,964
files

649
00:24:44,345 --> 00:24:46,679
to each other back and forth. So let's

650
00:24:46,679 --> 00:24:49,399
let's go further in your head. What inspires

651
00:24:49,399 --> 00:24:51,720
you to write the music and then playing

652
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,640
it in your kitchen? What how how do

653
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,940
you get to that point?

654
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,799
You know, I've been training myself to be

655
00:24:57,799 --> 00:25:00,140
able to not have to be inspired.

656
00:25:00,565 --> 00:25:01,065
Oh.

657
00:25:01,684 --> 00:25:04,644
Because that's a very slow process. Yeah. Very

658
00:25:04,644 --> 00:25:06,164
slow if you're just waiting for it to

659
00:25:06,164 --> 00:25:08,724
hit you and, you know, boom. But once

660
00:25:08,724 --> 00:25:11,125
you start writing more, which I've had to

661
00:25:11,125 --> 00:25:12,984
push get pushed to do,

662
00:25:14,859 --> 00:25:16,240
then it starts to become

663
00:25:16,539 --> 00:25:19,179
just sit down and see what you get.

664
00:25:19,179 --> 00:25:21,440
Woah. And I'm always get stuff.

665
00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:24,940
I mean, most always. Not it may not

666
00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:27,019
be great That's right. But I get stuff,

667
00:25:27,019 --> 00:25:28,845
you know? I get. Yeah. So you get

668
00:25:28,845 --> 00:25:30,365
the lyrics. They come first. And it get

669
00:25:30,365 --> 00:25:32,125
that thing going. It's like,

670
00:25:33,164 --> 00:25:34,625
it just is

671
00:25:35,325 --> 00:25:35,825
amazing.

672
00:25:36,204 --> 00:25:38,785
You are an achiever. That's for certain. And

673
00:25:38,845 --> 00:25:40,684
now reflecting on that you were the first

674
00:25:40,684 --> 00:25:42,605
born of five girls. Right? So you're the

675
00:25:42,605 --> 00:25:43,664
eldest. You got

676
00:25:44,099 --> 00:25:46,660
you got all the learning. Your parents learned

677
00:25:46,660 --> 00:25:49,059
how to raise children Yeah. By you. You

678
00:25:49,059 --> 00:25:50,900
were the example, so maybe that has something.

679
00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:53,480
My mom was a driver of me. Yeah.

680
00:25:53,940 --> 00:25:56,255
Yeah. Yes. You will go to college. I

681
00:25:56,255 --> 00:25:57,615
knew in the third grade I was going

682
00:25:57,615 --> 00:25:59,855
to college. So, yes, I knew that. So

683
00:25:59,855 --> 00:26:01,615
what comes first when you do make it?

684
00:26:01,615 --> 00:26:03,775
You do you come up with the lyrics,

685
00:26:03,775 --> 00:26:05,875
and are they poems, or do you just

686
00:26:06,174 --> 00:26:07,615
think of of the above. All of the

687
00:26:07,615 --> 00:26:09,615
above. It just comes together. Of the above.

688
00:26:09,615 --> 00:26:10,914
Sometimes it's a poem.

689
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,740
Sometimes it's just a word

690
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:16,039
Mhmm. Or or it's a picture. Like, I

691
00:26:16,039 --> 00:26:17,960
had this this old song called Barefoot on

692
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,059
the Highway, and it was just a snapshot

693
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,960
of something Uh-huh. When I was driving down

694
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,539
the highway,

695
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,840
and I saw this person come out or

696
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,164
I heard somebody come out running out from

697
00:26:27,164 --> 00:26:28,224
their back. Anyways,

698
00:26:28,525 --> 00:26:30,684
so sometimes it's just a visual like that,

699
00:26:30,684 --> 00:26:32,144
like, dying ain't no bigger

700
00:26:32,525 --> 00:26:34,305
thing. I saw this gravedigger

701
00:26:35,244 --> 00:26:37,325
making a grave, you know, in the rain,

702
00:26:37,325 --> 00:26:40,009
and it was like, woah. That's something I

703
00:26:40,009 --> 00:26:41,470
had never seen. So,

704
00:26:42,570 --> 00:26:45,210
like, this new song, Little Soft Secret, which

705
00:26:45,210 --> 00:26:46,490
I don't think I can play for you,

706
00:26:46,490 --> 00:26:49,150
unfortunately, because I tried to and it didn't.

707
00:26:50,525 --> 00:26:53,244
There are sometimes glitches in these files. Yeah.

708
00:26:53,244 --> 00:26:55,585
But new just this car thing happens.

709
00:26:57,804 --> 00:27:00,204
I was just walking in my neighborhood, right,

710
00:27:00,204 --> 00:27:02,304
you know, down the street from here, basically,

711
00:27:02,684 --> 00:27:04,784
and I saw this dead bird,

712
00:27:05,890 --> 00:27:08,710
black, shiny dead bird. It was, like, so

713
00:27:08,849 --> 00:27:11,250
beautiful, and I walked past it, and then

714
00:27:11,250 --> 00:27:13,170
it was anyways, I had to walk past

715
00:27:13,170 --> 00:27:15,089
it about three times till I really went,

716
00:27:15,089 --> 00:27:15,589
woah.

717
00:27:15,890 --> 00:27:19,029
Little soft secret. That's that song. Aw. Yeah.

718
00:27:19,170 --> 00:27:21,345
Yeah. So So do you ever do the

719
00:27:21,345 --> 00:27:23,664
opposite where you will be strumming on your

720
00:27:23,664 --> 00:27:25,744
guitar and go, wow. That sounds really good.

721
00:27:25,744 --> 00:27:27,424
I like that. And then you'll put words

722
00:27:27,424 --> 00:27:29,904
to the the song? Yes. Yeah? I have

723
00:27:29,904 --> 00:27:31,825
done I did a whole album that way,

724
00:27:32,305 --> 00:27:35,285
back way back because I was kinda challenged

725
00:27:35,345 --> 00:27:36,164
to do that.

726
00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:37,480
Like, come on. Let's see if you can

727
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,720
do it that way. So that helped me

728
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,720
be able to go back and forth. Like,

729
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,119
sometimes writing from the music, sometimes writing from

730
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:44,779
the lyric,

731
00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:47,000
and so on and go You got a

732
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,679
good memory, or do you jot these things

733
00:27:48,679 --> 00:27:50,034
down on a piece of paper? Or

734
00:27:50,335 --> 00:27:51,534
do you book them down? You do? Okay.

735
00:27:51,534 --> 00:27:52,894
I can't remember anything. Of course. Those don't

736
00:27:52,894 --> 00:27:54,494
work for you. I do really can't. Yeah.

737
00:27:54,494 --> 00:27:56,095
I forgot my iPad. It had my wallet.

738
00:27:56,095 --> 00:27:57,214
It hit the house there. I know. But

739
00:27:57,214 --> 00:27:59,394
you got your haircut. I got my haircut.

740
00:28:00,575 --> 00:28:02,575
Alright. I know. There's I have so many

741
00:28:02,575 --> 00:28:03,839
songs. I cannot remember. I have to use

742
00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:05,940
a notebook when I perform now, which isn't

743
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,259
it's humiliating, but,

744
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,200
I just gotta do it. No. And your

745
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,759
and your songs are so heartfelt. They're really

746
00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:16,160
nice, and they're I don't know. They're just

747
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,434
nice to listen to. And Okay. We're gonna

748
00:28:18,434 --> 00:28:19,474
need to take a break here in about

749
00:28:19,474 --> 00:28:21,394
forty five seconds. But in the meantime, tell

750
00:28:21,394 --> 00:28:23,154
us who the members of the Tony Land

751
00:28:23,154 --> 00:28:25,075
Band are. Okay. The Tony Land Band first

752
00:28:25,075 --> 00:28:27,154
of all, the recording is just me and

753
00:28:27,154 --> 00:28:27,974
Jim Walker.

754
00:28:28,355 --> 00:28:30,515
K. That's it. We do everything. He's a

755
00:28:30,515 --> 00:28:31,335
multi instrumentalist,

756
00:28:31,875 --> 00:28:32,670
and we both

757
00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:35,470
sing, and we do all the harmony work.

758
00:28:35,630 --> 00:28:38,190
Guitarist too? Oh, he's amazing. Isn't he your

759
00:28:38,190 --> 00:28:38,690
neighbor?

760
00:28:39,070 --> 00:28:40,509
No. Oh, that's That's a different one. Oh,

761
00:28:40,509 --> 00:28:42,190
okay. This is the one up in Portland.

762
00:28:42,190 --> 00:28:44,714
Oh. Okay. Dan Walker. Alright. He's awesome. He's

763
00:28:44,794 --> 00:28:46,875
so Oh, wow. Wonderful to work with too.

764
00:28:46,875 --> 00:28:49,914
Kim Devine? Kim Devine is my good friend,

765
00:28:49,914 --> 00:28:50,894
and she's percussionist,

766
00:28:51,674 --> 00:28:54,335
all that. Jim Bixler plays percussion

767
00:28:54,714 --> 00:28:55,214
congas,

768
00:28:55,674 --> 00:28:56,414
and then,

769
00:28:57,730 --> 00:29:00,549
Larry Friess is a guitar player and singer.

770
00:29:00,849 --> 00:29:02,789
Lots of harmony background stuff.

771
00:29:03,169 --> 00:29:05,650
And he's from he's there. And then we

772
00:29:05,650 --> 00:29:08,470
have Matt Stewart who also plays guitar, mandolin.

773
00:29:08,529 --> 00:29:10,289
He's also plays a multitude. The fun group.

774
00:29:10,289 --> 00:29:12,025
You always have fun. Okay. We got a

775
00:29:12,025 --> 00:29:13,704
break right now because time flies when we're

776
00:29:13,704 --> 00:29:15,625
having fun. I know. Started that mid break

777
00:29:15,625 --> 00:29:17,065
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794
00:29:53,115 --> 00:29:55,430
support, on the radio as and the spot,

795
00:29:55,890 --> 00:29:58,130
as a supporter of community radio. And that

796
00:29:58,130 --> 00:30:00,850
is the Coastal Health and Hospice serving Northern

797
00:30:00,850 --> 00:30:03,170
California. What is it again? Coastal Home Health

798
00:30:03,170 --> 00:30:05,009
and Hospice. Home health. And you're one of

799
00:30:05,009 --> 00:30:07,990
the hospice directors, doctors there. Yes. She knows.

800
00:30:08,215 --> 00:30:09,755
This ex, exemplary,

801
00:30:10,134 --> 00:30:13,255
emotional, and helpful nonprofit organization is here to

802
00:30:13,255 --> 00:30:14,855
help all of us as we grow older

803
00:30:14,855 --> 00:30:15,674
and transition

804
00:30:16,295 --> 00:30:18,795
from one house to another. So welcome aboard,

805
00:30:20,134 --> 00:30:20,634
Coastal.

806
00:30:21,899 --> 00:30:24,859
Home Health. Home Health. I'm so sorry. Okay.

807
00:30:24,859 --> 00:30:27,259
And lastly, my dear co host, Doctor. Gigi

808
00:30:27,259 --> 00:30:28,319
Reed, and yours truly,

809
00:30:28,779 --> 00:30:30,159
on behalf of KCIW,

810
00:30:30,700 --> 00:30:33,419
thanks to all of you. We're back in

811
00:30:33,419 --> 00:30:35,119
the studio. We never went anywhere.

812
00:30:36,365 --> 00:30:39,085
Speaking with Toni Land, and we had just

813
00:30:39,085 --> 00:30:39,804
a few more,

814
00:30:40,444 --> 00:30:42,284
a few we got the people that are

815
00:30:42,284 --> 00:30:44,444
in your band. Right? Yes. And we're gonna

816
00:30:44,444 --> 00:30:47,085
start your music here. Just admit let's say

817
00:30:47,085 --> 00:30:48,684
this right now. How do people get ahold

818
00:30:48,684 --> 00:30:49,264
of you?

819
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:52,440
Okay. So I have a website, tonyland.com.

820
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,119
That's easy. Toni.

821
00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:55,740
Yeah. Yes. Toni.

822
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,440
And,

823
00:30:57,159 --> 00:30:59,399
you can just Google me too. I mean,

824
00:30:59,399 --> 00:31:01,319
I just come up in all kinds of

825
00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:03,559
ways. And also, you can get music on,

826
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:04,380
like, Spotify,

827
00:31:05,154 --> 00:31:05,654
Apple

828
00:31:06,275 --> 00:31:06,775
Music,

829
00:31:07,474 --> 00:31:09,575
Amazon. K. Social media,

830
00:31:10,755 --> 00:31:12,214
Facebook or anything like that?

831
00:31:12,515 --> 00:31:13,015
Yeah.

832
00:31:14,994 --> 00:31:15,494
Instagram

833
00:31:15,795 --> 00:31:17,095
TikTok, Timook?

834
00:31:17,474 --> 00:31:19,654
You know what? I'm really a firm believer

835
00:31:19,714 --> 00:31:22,730
in email list. Okay. Or even texting. What's

836
00:31:22,730 --> 00:31:23,470
your email?

837
00:31:24,569 --> 00:31:26,089
No. I don't mean that. I'm just saying

838
00:31:26,089 --> 00:31:27,230
about reaching people.

839
00:31:27,529 --> 00:31:30,329
Right. Very specifically, most of all those people

840
00:31:30,329 --> 00:31:32,250
have signed up on my email list when

841
00:31:32,250 --> 00:31:34,325
they came to my gigs. Cool. So those

842
00:31:34,325 --> 00:31:36,244
are people that are already engaged with me

843
00:31:36,244 --> 00:31:38,724
and just developing that. The social media is

844
00:31:38,724 --> 00:31:41,445
so big Yeah. And so spread out and

845
00:31:41,445 --> 00:31:42,085
so huge.

846
00:31:42,965 --> 00:31:44,184
And I've done that

847
00:31:44,644 --> 00:31:46,965
some, but I'm pretty bad at it. Yeah.

848
00:31:46,965 --> 00:31:48,419
Alright. Well I'm here. I live in this

849
00:31:48,419 --> 00:31:50,339
town. This is my community. Right? Just looking

850
00:31:50,339 --> 00:31:51,859
you up on Google. That's how we when

851
00:31:51,859 --> 00:31:53,380
we first heard about you, I looked it

852
00:31:53,380 --> 00:31:55,059
up. You're all over the place. Toni Land,

853
00:31:55,059 --> 00:31:57,140
l a n d t o n I.

854
00:31:57,140 --> 00:31:58,819
Alright. Michael Gorst, you give me a thumbs

855
00:31:58,819 --> 00:32:01,079
up. We're gonna transition into her,

856
00:32:01,875 --> 00:32:03,095
Tony's music.

857
00:32:03,955 --> 00:32:07,494
Okay. And whenever you two are radio ready,

858
00:32:07,875 --> 00:32:08,615
the radio.

859
00:32:09,315 --> 00:32:11,234
Two radio? Then tell us about what we're

860
00:32:11,234 --> 00:32:13,075
hearing and We're just not listening. I'm just

861
00:32:13,075 --> 00:32:14,755
deciding because I'm looking at my little list

862
00:32:14,755 --> 00:32:16,595
here. Okay. I don't have all the songs

863
00:32:16,595 --> 00:32:18,789
here, but I do have, Oh, so the

864
00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:20,710
new ones from Yeah. These are all just

865
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:22,869
from the new album. Nobody's heard these. First

866
00:32:22,869 --> 00:32:25,210
time in town. Yeah. For now. Kitchen Blues.

867
00:32:25,509 --> 00:32:26,730
Yeah. The Kitchen Blues.

868
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:30,230
Alright. This is a song called All That

869
00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:30,730
Glitters.

870
00:32:31,109 --> 00:32:31,589
And,

871
00:32:32,605 --> 00:32:34,944
Jim and I, Jim Walker and I both,

872
00:32:35,484 --> 00:32:37,585
went through the music scene in Los Angeles

873
00:32:38,204 --> 00:32:39,325
in the eighties, and,

874
00:32:39,964 --> 00:32:41,105
it was pretty treacherous.

875
00:32:41,724 --> 00:32:43,664
And so this song is kind of

876
00:32:44,284 --> 00:32:46,470
from both of us, you know Okay. Into

877
00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:49,289
story form. Okay? Cool. Alright. Tony

878
00:33:00,325 --> 00:33:01,545
She was hypnotized

879
00:33:02,244 --> 00:33:04,424
by the jewel of lies

880
00:33:04,965 --> 00:33:05,785
and sparkle

881
00:33:06,085 --> 00:33:06,585
everywhere

882
00:33:07,205 --> 00:33:08,184
she go.

883
00:33:09,605 --> 00:33:10,664
Even sidewalks

884
00:33:10,965 --> 00:33:11,945
seem to glow.

885
00:33:14,509 --> 00:33:17,630
Some pretend they'll help you win. Fill your

886
00:33:17,630 --> 00:33:19,410
glass up to the brim.

887
00:33:19,950 --> 00:33:22,769
Sign the dotted line, say yes.

888
00:33:24,269 --> 00:33:26,849
They'll take care of the rest.

889
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,559
Some people shine like gold, some can't do

890
00:34:14,559 --> 00:34:16,019
it on their own.

891
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:19,780
Steal your hard earned claim,

892
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,405
instead of mining for the vein.

893
00:34:25,864 --> 00:34:28,285
So return the borrowed gown,

894
00:34:28,905 --> 00:34:30,765
gloves and shoes you found,

895
00:34:31,545 --> 00:34:34,605
ones from the second hand store.

896
00:34:35,704 --> 00:34:37,085
You won't need them

897
00:34:37,385 --> 00:34:37,860
anymore.

898
00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:43,659
All that glitters,

899
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,059
all that shimmers

900
00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:48,859
can leave you

901
00:36:36,219 --> 00:36:36,719
Alright.

902
00:36:37,019 --> 00:36:40,000
Wow. Oh. It's like glittering. Very nice.

903
00:36:40,460 --> 00:36:42,699
Loved it. Now do you play the guitar

904
00:36:42,699 --> 00:36:43,394
on there?

905
00:36:43,875 --> 00:36:45,715
I wrote the song on guitar, but I

906
00:36:45,715 --> 00:36:47,954
didn't play the guitar. Because you usually do

907
00:36:47,954 --> 00:36:50,195
play. Right? You yeah. Oh, okay. But you

908
00:36:50,275 --> 00:36:51,954
I think you told us one time before

909
00:36:51,954 --> 00:36:54,275
that you really like it when somebody else

910
00:36:54,275 --> 00:36:56,769
can play the guitar because you're you're working

911
00:36:56,769 --> 00:36:59,730
two dynamics. You're having to watch your hands

912
00:36:59,730 --> 00:37:02,130
and where your fingers are. Yeah. And produce

913
00:37:02,130 --> 00:37:03,650
the right sound and then you have to

914
00:37:03,650 --> 00:37:05,730
sing. I I've always thought that's so amazing

915
00:37:05,730 --> 00:37:07,784
about musicians that you're able to do that.

916
00:37:07,944 --> 00:37:10,344
Yep. So that I get it. And I

917
00:37:10,505 --> 00:37:12,264
It is. And another good thing about your

918
00:37:12,264 --> 00:37:14,264
songs is I could hear every word. I

919
00:37:14,264 --> 00:37:16,444
I understand Understand it. Word. Right?

920
00:37:17,065 --> 00:37:19,224
And Well, she is you were talking about

921
00:37:19,224 --> 00:37:22,105
thrift stores and hand me downs and shoes

922
00:37:22,105 --> 00:37:24,210
that, you know, this is these are things

923
00:37:24,210 --> 00:37:26,610
that many people in this world where we

924
00:37:26,610 --> 00:37:28,610
deal with and day day to day. We're

925
00:37:28,610 --> 00:37:29,510
not all billionaires.

926
00:37:30,210 --> 00:37:33,250
And I think, that strikes a chord with

927
00:37:33,250 --> 00:37:36,385
with so many interesting people. Alright. Thank you

928
00:37:36,385 --> 00:37:38,385
for that. All this is Very cool. Note

929
00:37:38,385 --> 00:37:40,944
this is your virgin review. That that I

930
00:37:40,944 --> 00:37:42,304
know. I was so nervous. I was, like,

931
00:37:42,304 --> 00:37:42,804
sweating.

932
00:37:43,505 --> 00:37:45,344
I can't even look at you guys. Like

933
00:37:45,744 --> 00:37:47,344
No. We No. It's like If you see

934
00:37:47,344 --> 00:37:48,339
my head I loved it. If If you

935
00:37:48,339 --> 00:37:49,699
see my head moving like this, you know,

936
00:37:49,699 --> 00:37:51,940
I'm enjoying a different world. Just fake it.

937
00:37:51,940 --> 00:37:52,440
Alright?

938
00:37:55,139 --> 00:37:57,059
Alright. I'm gonna play another song. Okay. Let

939
00:37:57,059 --> 00:37:59,539
me see. This is just a fun little

940
00:37:59,539 --> 00:38:01,159
song called You Got Me.

941
00:38:02,085 --> 00:38:03,525
Some of these are still in the process

942
00:38:03,525 --> 00:38:05,005
of being names. Either you're gonna be You

943
00:38:05,005 --> 00:38:06,405
Got Me or You Got Me Good. Well,

944
00:38:06,405 --> 00:38:08,405
we got that You Really Got Me? You

945
00:38:08,405 --> 00:38:10,244
Really Got Me? Me? Okay. Yeah. I can

946
00:38:10,244 --> 00:38:12,005
maybe maybe it's You Got Me Good. Okay.

947
00:38:12,005 --> 00:38:13,525
We got me, so I don't know what

948
00:38:13,525 --> 00:38:15,940
I'm doing. Alright. You ready? Yep. We're ready.

949
00:38:15,940 --> 00:38:17,400
Okay. This is a love song.

950
00:38:29,684 --> 00:38:31,625
I don't even have a clue

951
00:38:32,085 --> 00:38:35,125
what's going on with you. Don't make me

952
00:38:35,125 --> 00:38:35,625
guess.

953
00:38:37,045 --> 00:38:39,385
I'll just flunk this test.

954
00:38:40,485 --> 00:38:43,769
Good news, bad news. You can tell me

955
00:38:43,769 --> 00:38:44,269
everything.

956
00:38:44,650 --> 00:38:46,269
You know I'm on your team.

957
00:38:48,410 --> 00:38:49,869
You got me.

958
00:38:50,570 --> 00:38:52,750
I'll be your Olivia Pope.

959
00:38:53,210 --> 00:38:55,215
I'll cast you in and vote no

960
00:39:09,069 --> 00:39:10,769
Oh, you got me.

961
00:39:12,190 --> 00:39:12,690
Oh,

962
00:39:14,109 --> 00:39:15,329
you got me.

963
00:39:16,510 --> 00:39:19,170
All the joy and all the love.

964
00:39:19,789 --> 00:39:20,289
Oh,

965
00:39:21,949 --> 00:39:23,250
you got me.

966
00:39:48,589 --> 00:39:49,650
The whole world

967
00:39:49,949 --> 00:39:50,449
on.

968
00:39:51,309 --> 00:39:53,255
Come on, take my hand.

969
00:39:53,795 --> 00:39:57,414
I'm your biggest fan. Come on, come clean.

970
00:39:59,074 --> 00:40:00,694
You got me.

971
00:40:01,194 --> 00:40:01,694
You

972
00:40:02,194 --> 00:40:02,694
got

973
00:40:03,194 --> 00:40:03,694
me.

974
00:40:04,194 --> 00:40:05,335
You got me.

975
00:41:27,389 --> 00:41:27,889
Good.

976
00:41:41,565 --> 00:41:43,184
Oh, that gave me goosebumps.

977
00:41:44,284 --> 00:41:46,784
I was tapping my foot and that's true.

978
00:41:47,485 --> 00:41:49,485
You cannot do that on live air. You

979
00:41:49,485 --> 00:41:51,965
can't hear the bump bump. I heard it.

980
00:41:51,965 --> 00:41:53,565
Oh, you heard it too? No. I didn't.

981
00:41:53,565 --> 00:41:55,400
I didn't hear it. I heard that. It

982
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,539
was good. And that one,

983
00:41:57,079 --> 00:41:59,400
I I I heard one lyric there that

984
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,119
it was the very beginning that, something that's

985
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:04,280
never I've never experienced, but it was about

986
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,260
flunking a test.

987
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,140
Yeah.

988
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,440
Okay. Never done that before ever in my

989
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,235
life. Never. Never. Never. Never. Never. Einstein and

990
00:42:11,235 --> 00:42:12,535
and I both won't test

991
00:42:12,994 --> 00:42:13,954
it. Okay. Alright.

992
00:42:14,355 --> 00:42:15,974
Wonderful song. And again,

993
00:42:16,994 --> 00:42:18,614
it appeals to you on

994
00:42:19,235 --> 00:42:21,235
a on a emotional level. Mhmm. That's what

995
00:42:21,235 --> 00:42:23,155
we that's what we like. We like to

996
00:42:23,155 --> 00:42:25,235
hear songs that pick you up and kinda

997
00:42:25,394 --> 00:42:27,710
Sweet. Put you in some place else.

998
00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:29,929
Alright. We we got enough room. We got

999
00:42:29,929 --> 00:42:31,849
about fifteen minutes, actually. We have more than

1000
00:42:31,849 --> 00:42:33,530
fifteen, so we could play. Oh, another thing

1001
00:42:33,530 --> 00:42:35,050
is your songs are not too long. They're

1002
00:42:35,050 --> 00:42:36,730
not they're not dragging on seven or eight

1003
00:42:36,730 --> 00:42:39,130
minutes. No. No. No. No. I'm cool. I've

1004
00:42:39,130 --> 00:42:40,414
been trained. You've been trained.

1005
00:42:40,875 --> 00:42:42,795
Weren't we all raised in the sixties, seventies,

1006
00:42:42,795 --> 00:42:44,315
and eighties? Right? You had a three minute

1007
00:42:44,474 --> 00:42:46,474
three minutes on. Yep. Three. I still do.

1008
00:42:46,474 --> 00:42:48,574
I try to keep it around three minutes.

1009
00:42:48,875 --> 00:42:51,035
Wow. But sometimes it goes to maybe four,

1010
00:42:51,035 --> 00:42:53,269
but, my Jim and I are both like,

1011
00:42:53,269 --> 00:42:55,610
oh, no. Too long. We gotta start chopping,

1012
00:42:55,909 --> 00:42:57,349
get rid of that. You know?

1013
00:42:57,670 --> 00:43:00,070
No. The long version, the LP version. No.

1014
00:43:00,070 --> 00:43:01,829
No. No. When I sing karaoke, I still

1015
00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:03,510
only sing one song. It's two minutes and

1016
00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:06,014
ten seconds long. Yeah. I left my heart

1017
00:43:06,014 --> 00:43:08,175
in San Francisco. It was only two minutes.

1018
00:43:08,175 --> 00:43:10,175
Two minutes and ten minutes. Two It's such

1019
00:43:10,175 --> 00:43:12,255
a big song. Two minutes and ten seconds.

1020
00:43:12,255 --> 00:43:12,755
Wow.

1021
00:43:13,054 --> 00:43:15,214
Yeah? Right? It's like a day. Yeah. I

1022
00:43:15,214 --> 00:43:16,655
I don't get much time. You know, people's

1023
00:43:16,655 --> 00:43:19,079
attention is so short. These sites, I think

1024
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:21,640
going past three or four minutes is the

1025
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,119
way you're pushing it. Yeah. Right on. Alright.

1026
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:25,239
Let's see. Let's do,

1027
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,119
okay. Do you wanna hear my party song?

1028
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:29,320
Yeah. Party song. I know what you put

1029
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,460
into your hair. Okay. This one

1030
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,565
is I'm seeing you, Jacques, dancing your, you

1031
00:43:34,565 --> 00:43:36,405
know, tail off. Doing my well, I've got

1032
00:43:36,405 --> 00:43:37,545
my gal here. It's called

1033
00:43:38,164 --> 00:43:40,485
should've been a party. Should've been a party.

1034
00:43:40,485 --> 00:43:42,025
And what inspired it?

1035
00:43:43,525 --> 00:43:44,644
Party should didn't

1036
00:43:45,045 --> 00:43:46,565
Do you mind telling us? Or

1037
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:49,989
It kinda was edited so many times. It

1038
00:43:49,989 --> 00:43:51,609
started out as a Halloween party.

1039
00:43:51,989 --> 00:43:55,190
Oh. And then I kinda broadened that idea

1040
00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:56,650
into just a party party.

1041
00:43:59,829 --> 00:44:01,670
Should've been a party. Well, here's the thing

1042
00:44:01,670 --> 00:44:02,650
is that I

1043
00:44:03,074 --> 00:44:03,574
typically

1044
00:44:04,034 --> 00:44:05,635
I'm all the this is the first time

1045
00:44:05,635 --> 00:44:07,255
I've ever done it this way, which is

1046
00:44:07,394 --> 00:44:09,315
before, I always had the songs all written,

1047
00:44:09,315 --> 00:44:10,695
and then I go in the studio.

1048
00:44:11,234 --> 00:44:13,714
But now, on this one, I'm writing them

1049
00:44:13,714 --> 00:44:14,534
as we go.

1050
00:44:14,835 --> 00:44:15,269
Mhmm. So

1051
00:44:17,269 --> 00:44:17,323
So I think, okay. Well, now let's see.

1052
00:44:17,323 --> 00:44:18,230
What do we mean now? We have this

1053
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:20,230
kind. We have this kind now. This is

1054
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:22,550
this was my upbeat crazy part of the

1055
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:24,550
song. You're lucky you're so accomplished. You could

1056
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:26,309
do that. So many artists would just say,

1057
00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:27,750
how could she do that? I don't know.

1058
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:29,190
I couldn't I used to not be able

1059
00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:30,150
to do it, but now I can do

1060
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:32,256
that. Yeah. You get it. Let's hear the

1061
00:44:32,268 --> 00:44:36,349
party song. What is it called? It should've

1062
00:44:36,361 --> 00:44:40,443
been a party? It should've been a party.

1063
00:44:40,454 --> 00:44:44,025
Right. The band could've been for the

1064
00:44:44,548 --> 00:44:45,048
Party.

1065
00:47:43,329 --> 00:47:45,889
Oh, excellent. Okay. I can't I can't wait

1066
00:47:45,889 --> 00:47:48,049
till the engineers have to go back and

1067
00:47:48,049 --> 00:47:49,650
try to mend this up, but you shouldn't.

1068
00:47:49,650 --> 00:47:51,664
It's natural. Is that the fur the unveiling

1069
00:47:51,664 --> 00:47:53,425
of that song? No one's heard that song.

1070
00:47:53,425 --> 00:47:55,824
Okay. So right now, that is a tag

1071
00:47:55,824 --> 00:47:57,824
along sing along. That's what I said. You

1072
00:47:57,824 --> 00:47:59,344
know what I said? I need I need

1073
00:47:59,344 --> 00:48:01,585
a sing along song. So this is the

1074
00:48:01,585 --> 00:48:04,519
sing along song. My goodness. It's gonna be

1075
00:48:04,519 --> 00:48:06,599
a big, big hit because it just gets

1076
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:09,400
you in the mood. I know. And I

1077
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,519
and I I know that lyric. I didn't

1078
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:12,360
get the thing where you're so big. You

1079
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,719
went like this, but I think I'm not

1080
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,719
gonna exaggerate. And then you said, but such

1081
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,355
a creep. Was that it? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

1082
00:48:17,355 --> 00:48:18,795
So the guy The first one was creep

1083
00:48:18,795 --> 00:48:21,135
and the second one was freak. A freak.

1084
00:48:22,635 --> 00:48:24,175
It was you know, I have to I

1085
00:48:24,474 --> 00:48:25,994
I was hoping I was hoping I think

1086
00:48:25,994 --> 00:48:28,155
Michael Gorse actually chimed in there. He was

1087
00:48:28,155 --> 00:48:29,594
kinda nodding his head. I thought there was

1088
00:48:29,594 --> 00:48:32,500
something coming out that wasn't from Yeah. Right.

1089
00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:34,800
He wasn't saying the big shaking his chin.

1090
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,339
He wasn't saying the p word.

1091
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:38,019
No. He wasn't.

1092
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:41,679
Very cool song. Look at it. Song. Should've

1093
00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:43,599
Been a Party. There'd've Been a Party. Should've

1094
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:45,875
Been a Party. Oh my god. Alright. Okay.

1095
00:48:45,875 --> 00:48:47,714
That's my new favorite song. Yeah. Alright. Well,

1096
00:48:47,714 --> 00:48:49,474
you should do maybe one more song. Yeah.

1097
00:48:49,474 --> 00:48:51,315
Alright. What can I do? Alright. I'm gonna

1098
00:48:51,315 --> 00:48:53,315
do I okay. This is the next song.

1099
00:48:53,315 --> 00:48:53,635
It's,

1100
00:48:54,994 --> 00:48:57,315
it's a crazy song, but it's one of

1101
00:48:57,315 --> 00:48:58,994
my favorite songs on the whole album. It's

1102
00:48:58,994 --> 00:49:01,079
called, well, what do you think? It's called

1103
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,099
it's the ballad of DB Cooper.

1104
00:49:03,559 --> 00:49:04,679
Oh, the guy that jumped out of the

1105
00:49:04,679 --> 00:49:06,440
plane with all the Right. Okay. So what

1106
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,039
do you know about him? Well, he landed

1107
00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:09,400
in the woods, and he died on a

1108
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,480
tree. And they never found his body, but

1109
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:12,539
the money was taken.

1110
00:49:12,954 --> 00:49:14,474
A bear, God. They never

1111
00:49:14,954 --> 00:49:16,474
you know what? That's only one of the

1112
00:49:16,474 --> 00:49:18,155
stories. Yeah. There's lots of them. Do you

1113
00:49:18,155 --> 00:49:20,155
have more on your song then? The the

1114
00:49:20,155 --> 00:49:20,655
real

1115
00:49:21,594 --> 00:49:23,835
Yeah. It's a mystery. They say he made

1116
00:49:23,835 --> 00:49:25,835
it and then he he lived for twenty

1117
00:49:25,835 --> 00:49:27,769
five years after. Well, let's just listen to

1118
00:49:27,769 --> 00:49:29,130
this song. Who is that? This is my

1119
00:49:29,130 --> 00:49:30,269
version of it. Okay?

1120
00:49:30,650 --> 00:49:31,469
My sources.

1121
00:49:32,090 --> 00:49:34,250
Yeah. My sources. This is called a tribute

1122
00:49:34,250 --> 00:49:37,050
to DB Cooper? It's called it's either gonna

1123
00:49:37,050 --> 00:49:37,630
be called

1124
00:49:38,090 --> 00:49:39,150
Ballad of DB

1125
00:49:39,530 --> 00:49:40,030
Cooper,

1126
00:49:40,335 --> 00:49:41,635
or it's gonna be called,

1127
00:49:42,414 --> 00:49:44,655
Good Trick. Good? Alright. Now you listen to

1128
00:49:44,655 --> 00:49:46,574
the song or you tell me, Good Trick.

1129
00:49:46,574 --> 00:49:48,974
Alright. Alright. He's my age, by the way,

1130
00:49:48,974 --> 00:49:50,894
if he were still alive. Anyways, there's so

1131
00:49:50,894 --> 00:49:53,054
many stories. And up in Washington when I

1132
00:49:53,054 --> 00:49:54,480
lived up there, there was a lot of

1133
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,320
stories there because they think that's where he

1134
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:57,460
jumped out of the plane,

1135
00:49:58,159 --> 00:49:59,440
and they didn't find him. But,

1136
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,000
I never heard about the bear thing and

1137
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,260
getting eaten. No. The bear got rich.

1138
00:50:07,535 --> 00:50:09,934
The bear was a golden bear. There you

1139
00:50:09,934 --> 00:50:10,434
go.

1140
00:50:10,815 --> 00:50:12,755
It was like he had a heavy partier.

1141
00:50:12,815 --> 00:50:13,315
Alright.

1142
00:50:14,494 --> 00:50:17,075
See, that's how these things get spread. Right.

1143
00:50:17,375 --> 00:50:19,215
Alright. Here it comes. Oh, let's see. Alright.

1144
00:50:19,215 --> 00:50:21,829
Look at the area. Valid as DB. Alright.

1145
00:50:28,237 --> 00:50:28,737
Here.

1146
00:50:38,425 --> 00:50:41,085
I am not a killer, mister FBI.

1147
00:50:44,744 --> 00:50:47,485
Needed just a little toad to get me

1148
00:50:47,545 --> 00:50:48,045
by.

1149
00:50:50,609 --> 00:50:52,469
You went to so much trouble

1150
00:50:52,929 --> 00:50:54,230
running me down.

1151
00:50:56,769 --> 00:50:57,510
A touchdown

1152
00:50:58,130 --> 00:50:58,630
fumble

1153
00:50:59,409 --> 00:51:00,789
in case you bungle.

1154
00:51:03,329 --> 00:51:05,985
I am am damn flattered, mister FBI.

1155
00:51:09,485 --> 00:51:12,125
I am no Houdini, but I did jump

1156
00:51:12,125 --> 00:51:13,265
from the sky.

1157
00:51:15,405 --> 00:51:17,265
You call me DB Cooper.

1158
00:51:17,885 --> 00:51:19,449
That's not my name.

1159
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:21,609
It's just a

1160
00:51:21,909 --> 00:51:22,409
rumor.

1161
00:51:22,869 --> 00:51:24,409
Someone sends a humor.

1162
00:51:27,269 --> 00:51:29,210
It was a good trip

1163
00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:30,465
after all.

1164
00:51:54,610 --> 00:51:57,190
After all. My girlfriend thinks I'm sexy, mister

1165
00:51:57,250 --> 00:51:57,750
FBI.

1166
00:52:01,250 --> 00:52:04,164
Swears I'm a legend and I'm living that

1167
00:52:04,224 --> 00:52:04,724
life

1168
00:52:06,945 --> 00:52:09,125
Now I'm starring in the movies

1169
00:52:09,824 --> 00:52:11,445
You might have seen me

1170
00:52:13,265 --> 00:52:14,099
I'm spending

1171
00:52:53,515 --> 00:52:54,974
I just got away.

1172
00:52:56,474 --> 00:52:57,775
It was a good

1173
00:53:29,255 --> 00:53:31,815
All right. Oh wow. Okay. So wait a

1174
00:53:31,815 --> 00:53:34,875
minute. I'm still Does DB stand for dumbbell

1175
00:53:35,255 --> 00:53:35,755
or,

1176
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:39,739
I mean, the That wasn't his name? And

1177
00:53:39,739 --> 00:53:41,920
then what is this about Judy? Was Judy

1178
00:53:41,980 --> 00:53:44,460
like Judy Garland or what? You know what?

1179
00:53:44,460 --> 00:53:47,739
You do your own homework. Okay. Okay. We're

1180
00:53:47,739 --> 00:53:50,445
we're gonna be heard here first, folks, from

1181
00:53:50,445 --> 00:53:52,844
Toni Ladd, who's holding her tongue on this.

1182
00:53:52,844 --> 00:53:53,825
So you're mocking

1183
00:53:55,005 --> 00:53:57,325
what are you Michael's been shaking his head

1184
00:53:57,325 --> 00:53:59,265
like he he gets it, but I don't.

1185
00:53:59,885 --> 00:54:01,724
It's a good trick. It is a good

1186
00:54:01,724 --> 00:54:03,724
trick, and that's a good, name for the

1187
00:54:03,724 --> 00:54:06,340
songs. Now your music is so

1188
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:07,700
versatile.

1189
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,480
You know, though the your CDs before and

1190
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,420
when we came to see you, they were

1191
00:54:13,519 --> 00:54:14,019
more

1192
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,420
more, you know, melodic

1193
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,260
and Yeah. Hearty,

1194
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,715
heart spelled. Still playing guitar on those, which

1195
00:54:21,715 --> 00:54:24,295
I Right. And now it's like party girl.

1196
00:54:24,515 --> 00:54:26,275
Yeah. Oh. That was come from a rock

1197
00:54:26,275 --> 00:54:28,215
and roll background, by the way.

1198
00:54:28,914 --> 00:54:30,614
I I you know, I don't know.

1199
00:54:31,235 --> 00:54:32,054
Yeah. Well,

1200
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:34,949
yeah. It's been I'm I got a lot

1201
00:54:34,949 --> 00:54:36,949
of albums. You know, you do you go

1202
00:54:36,949 --> 00:54:39,110
through different phases. Yeah. Well, we heard three

1203
00:54:39,110 --> 00:54:40,469
of how many are gonna be on this?

1204
00:54:40,469 --> 00:54:43,110
How many songs? 10. Okay. So But you

1205
00:54:43,110 --> 00:54:45,449
haven't heard there's a there's some other beautiful,

1206
00:54:45,695 --> 00:54:48,094
really beautiful songs. Well, we just heard four.

1207
00:54:48,094 --> 00:54:51,054
You treated our listening diets in forever because

1208
00:54:51,054 --> 00:54:53,614
this becomes podcast in, real soon. I didn't

1209
00:54:53,614 --> 00:54:54,894
know what to play what I was gonna

1210
00:54:54,894 --> 00:54:56,655
play, and I suffered over that. And then

1211
00:54:56,655 --> 00:54:58,809
I and then I didn't play anything I

1212
00:54:58,809 --> 00:55:01,049
was gonna play and because Well, these were

1213
00:55:01,049 --> 00:55:01,549
fantastic,

1214
00:55:02,969 --> 00:55:05,869
episodes. The songs were great. They're so versatile.

1215
00:55:06,170 --> 00:55:08,329
Very nice. More so more so than I

1216
00:55:08,489 --> 00:55:10,494
any other year. I really liked it. I

1217
00:55:10,494 --> 00:55:12,255
mean Okay. Seriously, I'm in the moment right

1218
00:55:12,255 --> 00:55:14,034
now, and I'm just like, yeah. Party.

1219
00:55:15,135 --> 00:55:16,594
No party's on. Yeah.

1220
00:55:18,335 --> 00:55:20,434
Then jump out the jump out the airplane

1221
00:55:21,214 --> 00:55:22,195
without a parachute.

1222
00:55:22,569 --> 00:55:24,889
Wow. What a great thing. So maybe maybe

1223
00:55:24,889 --> 00:55:26,670
I'm thinking it was just all a

1224
00:55:26,969 --> 00:55:29,289
ploy, but Are we still on DB Coop?

1225
00:55:29,289 --> 00:55:29,789
Yeah.

1226
00:55:30,409 --> 00:55:32,489
Oh, no. But give me one hint so

1227
00:55:32,489 --> 00:55:33,849
I can take it home and figure it

1228
00:55:33,849 --> 00:55:35,369
out. No hints. Oh, no. You gotta do

1229
00:55:35,369 --> 00:55:37,130
your own research because it's all over the

1230
00:55:37,130 --> 00:55:39,554
board. I see. People like he still lives,

1231
00:55:39,554 --> 00:55:42,195
and if he you know? Correct. I was

1232
00:55:42,195 --> 00:55:44,594
gonna put a that it made the song

1233
00:55:44,594 --> 00:55:46,695
too long. Remember I told you Yeah. Shopping.

1234
00:55:46,835 --> 00:55:48,434
I was gonna put this little section in

1235
00:55:48,434 --> 00:55:49,255
there about,

1236
00:55:50,809 --> 00:55:54,250
that he that DB Cooper left the pot

1237
00:55:54,250 --> 00:55:56,409
of, you know, money buried, and he was

1238
00:55:56,489 --> 00:55:58,409
I was gonna tell him where it was.

1239
00:55:58,409 --> 00:55:59,769
You know? Right. But,

1240
00:56:00,409 --> 00:56:01,769
yeah, I had to cut you know, it's

1241
00:56:01,769 --> 00:56:04,250
like and also, when you're cutting and editing,

1242
00:56:04,250 --> 00:56:05,445
which is really the

1243
00:56:06,085 --> 00:56:06,585
big

1244
00:56:07,204 --> 00:56:08,105
thing about

1245
00:56:08,405 --> 00:56:10,585
good songwriting in my book, is that you

1246
00:56:11,045 --> 00:56:12,425
cut out stuff that doesn't

1247
00:56:12,805 --> 00:56:14,885
need to be there. Got it. It's painful

1248
00:56:14,885 --> 00:56:16,324
too. It's like, oh, I love it. I

1249
00:56:16,324 --> 00:56:16,824
know.

1250
00:56:17,125 --> 00:56:19,319
You gotta trim, like, trim the cakes. Yeah.

1251
00:56:19,319 --> 00:56:22,059
So that there's one I main one idea.

1252
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,039
It's like people that are writing books. That's

1253
00:56:24,039 --> 00:56:25,980
what I think too happens in the beginning.

1254
00:56:26,359 --> 00:56:28,440
Their books could be, like, three or four

1255
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,519
books. You know? Three or four stories. Cut

1256
00:56:30,519 --> 00:56:32,599
it down. They can't And it's the editing

1257
00:56:32,599 --> 00:56:35,234
process, which is Yeah. You know? Oh, cool.

1258
00:56:35,234 --> 00:56:36,614
They have to be brutal. So

1259
00:56:37,635 --> 00:56:39,175
what was your partner's name?

1260
00:56:39,635 --> 00:56:42,114
Jim Walker. Jim. Jim Walker. So he does

1261
00:56:42,114 --> 00:56:43,494
the all the little,

1262
00:56:43,875 --> 00:56:44,375
harmony

1263
00:56:44,835 --> 00:56:46,775
part. Yeah. We do those together.

1264
00:56:47,170 --> 00:56:49,010
Cool. So then you meet up. What about

1265
00:56:49,010 --> 00:56:50,929
our boys and girls? Just work really good

1266
00:56:50,929 --> 00:56:53,010
together. It's another kind of magical thing to

1267
00:56:53,010 --> 00:56:55,190
tell. It sounds like a choir back there,

1268
00:56:55,489 --> 00:56:57,010
but the truth is it's just Tim and

1269
00:56:57,010 --> 00:56:58,690
I going I know that. It's so cool

1270
00:56:58,690 --> 00:57:00,710
with a party too. All those people rocking.

1271
00:57:01,090 --> 00:57:01,989
Yeah. Oh,

1272
00:57:02,684 --> 00:57:04,805
actually, the that was like a clip some

1273
00:57:04,925 --> 00:57:07,324
from, you know, like a little sample of

1274
00:57:07,324 --> 00:57:09,805
that one when Yeah. Yeah. So they were

1275
00:57:09,805 --> 00:57:11,485
actual people. Like, we did a song called

1276
00:57:11,485 --> 00:57:11,985
Frankenstein

1277
00:57:12,445 --> 00:57:14,460
on one song that, one

1278
00:57:15,019 --> 00:57:16,239
album that we had.

1279
00:57:16,539 --> 00:57:19,519
And, we use clips from the old original

1280
00:57:19,820 --> 00:57:20,320
Frankenstein

1281
00:57:20,699 --> 00:57:23,420
movie. Right. So, anyways, you we have that

1282
00:57:23,420 --> 00:57:26,059
technology too. Tony Land in the studio today.

1283
00:57:26,059 --> 00:57:28,364
We need to wrap this up ASAP, doc.

1284
00:57:28,605 --> 00:57:30,204
Let's do it. Thank you, Tony, for coming

1285
00:57:30,204 --> 00:57:32,545
to you. My pleasure going to our show.

1286
00:57:33,164 --> 00:57:35,885
Virgin Sock. Play. Very cool. Alright. Thank you,

1287
00:57:35,885 --> 00:57:37,324
man. Love it. Love it. Love it. Do

1288
00:57:37,324 --> 00:57:38,844
you have a quote or a joke? Nope.

1289
00:57:38,844 --> 00:57:40,445
Let's go. We have no time. We have

1290
00:57:40,445 --> 00:57:42,284
to do, we we are We have over

1291
00:57:42,284 --> 00:57:43,105
a minute, girlfriend,

1292
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:45,110
boyfriend. Just got the the engineer gave me

1293
00:57:45,110 --> 00:57:46,789
the one finger. Oh, it was his middle

1294
00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:48,710
finger he gave me. Oh. Okay. I have

1295
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:49,910
one quote. I thought he was. I have

1296
00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:52,390
one quote. What's that? Fascia remembers what the

1297
00:57:52,390 --> 00:57:55,430
mind forgets. So there. Fascism. It remembers what

1298
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:57,349
the Yeah. Okay. Great. Hey. By the way,

1299
00:57:57,349 --> 00:57:58,970
next week, we've got another

1300
00:57:59,344 --> 00:58:01,984
musical duo duo with Rogue String comes on

1301
00:58:01,984 --> 00:58:04,644
live. Yana and Lacey Young and Yana,

1302
00:58:05,264 --> 00:58:07,344
Laub are gonna be on the air. We're

1303
00:58:07,344 --> 00:58:10,224
really proud that we've, had Tony land on

1304
00:58:10,224 --> 00:58:12,144
it. Yes. And you're welcome. Thank you. Thank

1305
00:58:12,144 --> 00:58:13,525
you. Very privileged.

1306
00:58:14,210 --> 00:58:16,609
But guess what? We all have been listening

1307
00:58:16,609 --> 00:58:17,989
to the Doc and Jacques

1308
00:58:18,369 --> 00:58:19,429
show on KCIW

1309
00:58:19,809 --> 00:58:22,309
one hundred point seven FM in Brookings, Oregon.

1310
00:58:22,929 --> 00:58:24,849
We hope you enjoyed the show as much

1311
00:58:24,849 --> 00:58:25,750
as we have.

1312
00:58:26,065 --> 00:58:28,304
Learning about Toni Lynn and listening to her

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great music here at the KCOW

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studio.

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Indeed. Peace and prosperity to everyone out there.

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Thanks again.

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Michael Gorse for coming in to have a

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rescue. We really appreciate it. And and Tom

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Bozek, we're coming up to your house now,

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so get ready. Doctors gotta look at your

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ankle. Everybody have fun. Stay tuned for

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Tony Durusso

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show right now. Thank you much. Peace and

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love.