1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,359 Examine your reasons for wanting to help. Look 2 00:00:03,359 --> 00:00:05,599 at your donation as an investment. It's not 3 00:00:05,599 --> 00:00:08,160 charity as much as it's an investment in 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,139 a child's future. 5 00:00:10,639 --> 00:00:13,039 Welcome to Where Hope Begins, the Save One 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:13,779 Life podcast. 7 00:00:14,205 --> 00:00:16,204 In honor of Save One Life's twenty fifth 8 00:00:16,204 --> 00:00:18,445 anniversary, this show tells the story of how 9 00:00:18,445 --> 00:00:20,144 one simple act of compassion 10 00:00:20,524 --> 00:00:22,845 grew into a global lifeline for families living 11 00:00:22,845 --> 00:00:25,105 with hemophilia and other bleeding disorders. 12 00:00:25,644 --> 00:00:26,850 What began with one question, 13 00:00:27,329 --> 00:00:30,130 could one family help another across borders, has 14 00:00:30,130 --> 00:00:32,609 become a movement built on dignity, opportunity, and 15 00:00:32,609 --> 00:00:35,670 hope. Because when one life is supported, generations 16 00:00:35,890 --> 00:00:36,710 can be transformed. 17 00:00:37,329 --> 00:00:39,090 I'm your host, Kai. And for our very 18 00:00:39,090 --> 00:00:41,854 first episode, we're starting at the very beginning 19 00:00:41,854 --> 00:00:44,495 with Save One Life's founder, Lori Kelly. Welcome 20 00:00:44,495 --> 00:00:45,315 to the podcast. 21 00:00:47,774 --> 00:00:50,015 Thank you, Kai. It's wonderful to have you. 22 00:00:50,015 --> 00:00:51,695 So I guess let's just start from the 23 00:00:51,695 --> 00:00:54,270 very beginning. You know, you've served the bleeding 24 00:00:54,270 --> 00:00:56,270 disorders community since 1989, 25 00:00:56,270 --> 00:00:58,690 and you founded Save One Life after witnessing 26 00:00:58,750 --> 00:01:00,370 devastating need firsthand. 27 00:01:00,990 --> 00:01:02,670 So what do we need to know about 28 00:01:02,670 --> 00:01:04,670 the path that brought you here? Well, 29 00:01:05,150 --> 00:01:07,150 it wasn't any one thing, really. It was 30 00:01:07,150 --> 00:01:09,170 a kind of a confluence of events. 31 00:01:09,965 --> 00:01:11,905 First, the birth of my child with hemophilia 32 00:01:12,204 --> 00:01:13,424 in 1987 33 00:01:13,484 --> 00:01:15,405 and then witnessing the pain that he had 34 00:01:15,405 --> 00:01:16,064 to suffer. 35 00:01:16,604 --> 00:01:19,004 It really opened my eyes to suffering in 36 00:01:19,004 --> 00:01:19,504 children 37 00:01:19,805 --> 00:01:23,025 in general and globally. And then in 1994, 38 00:01:23,409 --> 00:01:26,129 the Rwandan genocide had a part. I had 39 00:01:26,129 --> 00:01:27,810 a one month old baby at that time, 40 00:01:27,810 --> 00:01:30,209 my third child, and watched the news daily 41 00:01:30,209 --> 00:01:33,109 of children suffering and babies who were orphans. 42 00:01:33,890 --> 00:01:35,569 I asked my then husband if we could 43 00:01:35,569 --> 00:01:37,829 adopt, and that wasn't in the cards wisely. 44 00:01:38,795 --> 00:01:40,314 But I vowed then to do something to 45 00:01:40,314 --> 00:01:42,575 help children in developing countries. 46 00:01:43,034 --> 00:01:45,854 In 1996, I was asked by Bayer Corporation 47 00:01:46,155 --> 00:01:47,534 to develop a program 48 00:01:48,155 --> 00:01:49,754 to identify and train, 49 00:01:50,234 --> 00:01:52,494 advocate patients in developing countries. 50 00:01:53,100 --> 00:01:54,939 So I was able then to start traveling 51 00:01:54,939 --> 00:01:57,020 and seeing firsthand how people lived and the 52 00:01:57,020 --> 00:02:00,219 challenges they faced. And then finally, in 1999, 53 00:02:00,219 --> 00:02:01,819 a mom from New York of a child 54 00:02:01,819 --> 00:02:02,480 with hemophilia 55 00:02:03,100 --> 00:02:04,460 asked if we could start some kind of 56 00:02:04,460 --> 00:02:07,215 a child sponsorship program like Save the Children. 57 00:02:07,215 --> 00:02:08,754 So it was really her idea. 58 00:02:09,294 --> 00:02:11,215 And her comment made me realize that other 59 00:02:11,215 --> 00:02:13,854 people too were interested in helping kids who 60 00:02:13,854 --> 00:02:15,794 suffer in developing countries with hemophilia. 61 00:02:16,254 --> 00:02:17,694 And then it all kind of came together 62 00:02:17,694 --> 00:02:18,514 in 2000. 63 00:02:18,830 --> 00:02:20,590 It's amazing to hear. So I guess, let's 64 00:02:20,590 --> 00:02:22,270 go back to those early years. What did 65 00:02:22,270 --> 00:02:24,770 that teach you about, like, fear and advocacy 66 00:02:25,150 --> 00:02:27,169 and, like, what families actually need? 67 00:02:27,870 --> 00:02:29,629 Well, you know, again, getting out there and 68 00:02:29,629 --> 00:02:33,150 talking with American families first shows what their 69 00:02:33,150 --> 00:02:34,094 needs were. And 70 00:02:34,655 --> 00:02:36,514 at the time I started all of this, 71 00:02:36,814 --> 00:02:38,275 back in 1989, 72 00:02:38,895 --> 00:02:41,775 at that time, the hemophilia community globally was 73 00:02:41,775 --> 00:02:43,634 focused on the HIV scandal. 74 00:02:44,014 --> 00:02:46,495 Half of our US community was infected with 75 00:02:46,495 --> 00:02:47,955 HIV and Hep c. 76 00:02:48,290 --> 00:02:49,889 And then new moms like me came in 77 00:02:49,889 --> 00:02:52,290 with infants who are not HIV affected. And 78 00:02:52,290 --> 00:02:54,930 we were actually being kinda neglected, rightly so. 79 00:02:54,930 --> 00:02:57,270 The focus was on HIV affected families. 80 00:02:57,650 --> 00:02:59,569 There were many battles to be fought there 81 00:02:59,569 --> 00:03:01,750 for care and support and 82 00:03:02,215 --> 00:03:03,435 changing people's perceptions. 83 00:03:03,894 --> 00:03:06,055 So by attending support group meetings, I began 84 00:03:06,055 --> 00:03:08,694 to hear the non HIV community, people like 85 00:03:08,694 --> 00:03:10,694 me, what their needs were. Their needs were 86 00:03:10,694 --> 00:03:13,014 great because no one was really helping them. 87 00:03:13,014 --> 00:03:14,614 And so I decided to focus on what 88 00:03:14,614 --> 00:03:16,294 I knew best and what I lived, which 89 00:03:16,294 --> 00:03:17,114 was life 90 00:03:17,419 --> 00:03:19,739 with hemophilia without HIV and hep c. But 91 00:03:19,739 --> 00:03:21,819 also, we lacked resources, so I started to 92 00:03:21,819 --> 00:03:23,039 try to fill those resources. 93 00:03:23,340 --> 00:03:24,860 Part of that journey was you wrote the 94 00:03:24,860 --> 00:03:26,479 book Raising a Child with Hemophilia 95 00:03:26,780 --> 00:03:27,580 1990. 96 00:03:27,580 --> 00:03:29,099 I think one of the first parenting books 97 00:03:29,099 --> 00:03:30,539 on hemophilia. Can you tell us a little 98 00:03:30,539 --> 00:03:32,514 bit about that experience? Yeah. So, again, it 99 00:03:32,514 --> 00:03:34,754 was the attending the support groups and then 100 00:03:34,754 --> 00:03:36,754 having my own experiences, my own I I 101 00:03:36,754 --> 00:03:38,275 didn't know what I was doing when my 102 00:03:38,275 --> 00:03:39,955 child was born and went through a lot 103 00:03:39,955 --> 00:03:40,455 of 104 00:03:40,754 --> 00:03:42,694 painful episodes with him because, 105 00:03:43,314 --> 00:03:44,835 I wasn't sure what the right things to 106 00:03:44,835 --> 00:03:46,719 do were. And it was actually the other 107 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:48,480 parents in the support group who were giving 108 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,840 me really great information. But my doctors and 109 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,000 my nurses, none of them even had kids. 110 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:54,500 So 111 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,719 they kinda couldn't give us, like, what to 112 00:03:56,719 --> 00:03:58,480 expect at the next stage and the next 113 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,034 stage, but the other families did. So I 114 00:04:01,034 --> 00:04:01,514 started, 115 00:04:01,835 --> 00:04:04,495 contacting other families and collecting information. And 116 00:04:04,794 --> 00:04:06,314 what it turned out to be was a 117 00:04:06,314 --> 00:04:09,275 hard copy portable manual that addresses all the 118 00:04:09,275 --> 00:04:10,895 different issues of child rearing, 119 00:04:11,330 --> 00:04:13,430 such as medical aspects, insurance, 120 00:04:13,729 --> 00:04:14,469 and consumer 121 00:04:14,770 --> 00:04:15,830 aspects of hemophilia. 122 00:04:16,689 --> 00:04:18,689 At that time, you know, people were calling 123 00:04:18,689 --> 00:04:21,589 us patients, which even implies the term passivity. 124 00:04:21,810 --> 00:04:23,970 And as a business person, I had a 125 00:04:23,970 --> 00:04:26,834 business background, I wanted to call us consumers. 126 00:04:26,834 --> 00:04:28,514 And so as consumers, you have rights and 127 00:04:28,514 --> 00:04:30,435 responsibilities, and you have the right to ask 128 00:04:30,435 --> 00:04:32,194 questions, and you have the right to demand 129 00:04:32,194 --> 00:04:34,454 certain things. But you also have the responsibility 130 00:04:34,915 --> 00:04:36,535 of getting educated and 131 00:04:36,995 --> 00:04:38,834 speaking the same language as the doctors. So 132 00:04:38,834 --> 00:04:40,435 we tried to put that all into one 133 00:04:40,435 --> 00:04:42,879 book. And then changing their mindset alone on 134 00:04:42,879 --> 00:04:44,979 the idea that they were consumers also 135 00:04:45,599 --> 00:04:47,039 gives them the idea that they can be 136 00:04:47,039 --> 00:04:49,039 advocates and speak up for themselves and for 137 00:04:49,039 --> 00:04:49,779 their communities. 138 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,919 And we also try to present all this 139 00:04:51,919 --> 00:04:54,819 information in very user friendly terms 140 00:04:55,514 --> 00:04:57,274 so that any parent could pick up the 141 00:04:57,274 --> 00:04:58,574 book and quickly learn 142 00:04:58,875 --> 00:05:00,394 what to do, what to ask, and how 143 00:05:00,394 --> 00:05:02,074 to prepare for the next stage in their 144 00:05:02,074 --> 00:05:02,814 child's development. 145 00:05:03,194 --> 00:05:06,475 Such important contributions to the hemophilia community, you 146 00:05:06,475 --> 00:05:07,995 know, born out of, as you kind of 147 00:05:07,995 --> 00:05:10,519 put it, that initial fear, right, and not 148 00:05:10,519 --> 00:05:12,599 knowing what to do. So you had all 149 00:05:12,599 --> 00:05:15,660 of this energy and momentum. Tell us about 150 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,800 this turning point in your life as you 151 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,845 were traveling abroad in these developing countries. Yeah. 152 00:05:20,845 --> 00:05:22,245 I mean, I was home in the nineteen 153 00:05:22,245 --> 00:05:24,324 nineties raising my kids and writing. I had 154 00:05:24,324 --> 00:05:26,564 a newsletter. I'm working on some children's books 155 00:05:26,564 --> 00:05:29,685 for hemophilia. But, the Bayer Corporation had approached 156 00:05:29,685 --> 00:05:31,384 me and asked if I would consider 157 00:05:31,925 --> 00:05:34,425 traveling to developing countries and identifying, 158 00:05:34,805 --> 00:05:36,930 you know, advocates there and try to help 159 00:05:36,930 --> 00:05:39,170 build their advocacy programs like we were doing 160 00:05:39,170 --> 00:05:40,149 here in The US. 161 00:05:40,610 --> 00:05:43,009 I have a master's degree in international business 162 00:05:43,009 --> 00:05:45,569 and economics, and my first passion has always 163 00:05:45,569 --> 00:05:47,985 been doing developmental work in the in 164 00:05:48,384 --> 00:05:51,185 overseas, but life had its other plans. So 165 00:05:51,185 --> 00:05:53,264 I never really got to it. But I 166 00:05:53,264 --> 00:05:55,985 was excited to actually get to do what 167 00:05:55,985 --> 00:05:57,824 my passion was, which was going to developing 168 00:05:57,824 --> 00:05:58,324 countries. 169 00:05:58,784 --> 00:06:00,464 So my first forays there, you know, I 170 00:06:00,464 --> 00:06:02,305 was given a budget for travel. And I 171 00:06:02,305 --> 00:06:04,310 went to the countries where 172 00:06:04,769 --> 00:06:06,769 there really were no programs or there was 173 00:06:06,769 --> 00:06:08,709 no access to factor, nothing happenings. 174 00:06:09,169 --> 00:06:10,289 So the first thing I had to do 175 00:06:10,289 --> 00:06:11,810 was just get out and see how do 176 00:06:11,810 --> 00:06:14,069 people live. And it was really eye opening. 177 00:06:14,370 --> 00:06:15,729 And the first thing you learn is that 178 00:06:15,729 --> 00:06:17,349 there's different kinds of poverties 179 00:06:17,735 --> 00:06:20,295 and needs, and they can differ from country 180 00:06:20,295 --> 00:06:22,314 to country and from region to region. 181 00:06:22,774 --> 00:06:25,814 And even within one country, there's different kinds 182 00:06:25,814 --> 00:06:29,014 of poverty. Like, there's urban poverty and there's 183 00:06:29,014 --> 00:06:31,810 rural poverty, and they're very different. With urban 184 00:06:31,810 --> 00:06:33,490 poverty, you get a trade off, you know, 185 00:06:33,490 --> 00:06:36,229 better access to transportation and health care, 186 00:06:36,529 --> 00:06:38,870 but you'd have to deal with slums, crowding, 187 00:06:39,009 --> 00:06:41,829 lots of noise, you know, the odors, crime. 188 00:06:42,370 --> 00:06:44,444 And then in the rural communities, it's quieter 189 00:06:44,444 --> 00:06:46,285 and even cleaner, but the trade off is 190 00:06:46,285 --> 00:06:48,044 you don't have access to health care or 191 00:06:48,044 --> 00:06:49,904 even transportation to get health care. 192 00:06:50,365 --> 00:06:50,865 So 193 00:06:51,165 --> 00:06:53,345 families living on a dollar a day typically 194 00:06:53,805 --> 00:06:55,264 only have one breadwinner 195 00:06:55,564 --> 00:06:57,345 and one who stays home with the children. 196 00:06:57,564 --> 00:06:59,004 And it might be a one room or 197 00:06:59,004 --> 00:06:59,745 two room 198 00:07:00,230 --> 00:07:02,330 shelter or house with a lot of crowding 199 00:07:02,389 --> 00:07:03,529 if it's a big family. 200 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:06,949 I've seen parents that sleep on concrete floors 201 00:07:06,949 --> 00:07:09,269 or even dirt floors so the children can 202 00:07:09,269 --> 00:07:11,209 sleep in the beds all in one room. 203 00:07:11,670 --> 00:07:13,189 And in one bed, you might have three 204 00:07:13,189 --> 00:07:15,814 kids sleeping head to foot. There's no AC. 205 00:07:15,814 --> 00:07:18,855 There's no fans. This isn't sweltering heat. There's 206 00:07:18,855 --> 00:07:20,875 no refrigerator because there's no electricity, 207 00:07:21,574 --> 00:07:24,055 no TV, and often there's no bathroom. There 208 00:07:24,055 --> 00:07:26,295 might be a public bathroom like a porta 209 00:07:26,295 --> 00:07:28,314 potty or something for an entire community. 210 00:07:28,839 --> 00:07:30,519 Or people just go out to the fields. 211 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:32,519 It's it's a very rustic rural way of 212 00:07:32,519 --> 00:07:33,019 living. 213 00:07:33,639 --> 00:07:35,319 And it's it's a degrading way of life 214 00:07:35,319 --> 00:07:37,079 in many ways. We wanna try to find 215 00:07:37,079 --> 00:07:38,519 a way to give them some dignity in 216 00:07:38,519 --> 00:07:40,279 their life. I mean, if a children has 217 00:07:40,279 --> 00:07:43,240 a chronic medical disorder like hemophilia, it has 218 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:43,819 a bleed, 219 00:07:44,224 --> 00:07:45,604 and needs medical attention, 220 00:07:46,305 --> 00:07:47,764 it means that the breadwinner, 221 00:07:48,064 --> 00:07:50,064 often the father, might need to give up 222 00:07:50,064 --> 00:07:51,904 his job for the day to take the 223 00:07:51,904 --> 00:07:52,884 child to the hospital 224 00:07:53,425 --> 00:07:54,865 where they have to wait all day, and 225 00:07:54,865 --> 00:07:57,264 then the parent will lose the money for 226 00:07:57,264 --> 00:07:59,819 that day for his work. So oftentimes, they 227 00:07:59,819 --> 00:08:01,819 give up taking the child in for medical 228 00:08:01,819 --> 00:08:03,500 care because they can't afford to lose a 229 00:08:03,500 --> 00:08:05,579 day's worth of work. And that way, they 230 00:08:05,579 --> 00:08:07,040 eat, but the child suffers. 231 00:08:07,500 --> 00:08:10,000 Right. And I know there was this idea 232 00:08:10,139 --> 00:08:11,600 that it's not necessarily 233 00:08:12,220 --> 00:08:12,720 about 234 00:08:13,455 --> 00:08:14,995 providing factor or 235 00:08:15,535 --> 00:08:16,975 health care. Can you talk a little bit 236 00:08:16,975 --> 00:08:19,694 about Save One Life's mission and foundation, the 237 00:08:19,694 --> 00:08:22,115 idea of an education or, you know, groceries? 238 00:08:22,175 --> 00:08:24,035 Like, can you tell us about what sponsorship 239 00:08:24,095 --> 00:08:26,035 means and how it actually helps these families? 240 00:08:26,415 --> 00:08:28,175 Well, yeah. And, you know, as all these 241 00:08:28,175 --> 00:08:30,620 parents and their kids would come to meetings 242 00:08:30,620 --> 00:08:32,220 so we could talk to them to try 243 00:08:32,220 --> 00:08:34,480 to inspire them to advocate for themselves, 244 00:08:35,179 --> 00:08:37,600 I could just see that they needed medicine, 245 00:08:37,740 --> 00:08:40,000 first and foremost. That was their greatest need. 246 00:08:40,299 --> 00:08:42,559 And then so many of them were uneducated. 247 00:08:42,700 --> 00:08:44,404 The kids would just drop out of school 248 00:08:44,404 --> 00:08:46,644 because they missed so much school. You'd end 249 00:08:46,644 --> 00:08:48,165 up with a 15 year old who was 250 00:08:48,165 --> 00:08:50,325 still, like, in second grade. And, again, that's 251 00:08:50,325 --> 00:08:52,565 degrading for the child. Or kids that made 252 00:08:52,565 --> 00:08:54,884 it through primary schools but then couldn't go 253 00:08:54,884 --> 00:08:57,285 on to higher education because of their lack 254 00:08:57,285 --> 00:08:57,945 of mobility 255 00:08:58,419 --> 00:08:59,240 and their suffering. 256 00:08:59,779 --> 00:09:01,299 And then then you could see that they 257 00:09:01,299 --> 00:09:01,960 just needed 258 00:09:02,340 --> 00:09:04,919 money for everyday expenses, food, medicine, 259 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:06,200 clothing. 260 00:09:06,580 --> 00:09:08,820 Transportation is huge because you have to get 261 00:09:08,820 --> 00:09:11,379 to the medical facility to take advantage of 262 00:09:11,379 --> 00:09:13,214 any kind of medical care, and some of 263 00:09:13,214 --> 00:09:14,995 them didn't even have money for that. 264 00:09:15,375 --> 00:09:17,954 So little by little, as I mentioned before, 265 00:09:18,414 --> 00:09:20,174 it's the patients that tell you what they 266 00:09:20,174 --> 00:09:21,615 need if you listen. If you go and 267 00:09:21,615 --> 00:09:23,534 see it with your own eyes, talk to 268 00:09:23,534 --> 00:09:25,794 them, listen to them, ask some questions. 269 00:09:26,379 --> 00:09:28,379 And the most important component is going into 270 00:09:28,379 --> 00:09:29,980 their homes, and no one had ever done 271 00:09:29,980 --> 00:09:32,299 that before, I found out. All the programs 272 00:09:32,299 --> 00:09:35,419 in hemophilia that existed, nobody ever went into 273 00:09:35,419 --> 00:09:37,100 the homes of the poor to see how 274 00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:38,804 they live and see what their needs were. 275 00:09:39,125 --> 00:09:40,964 The families would come to the clinic or 276 00:09:40,964 --> 00:09:43,865 they'd come to meetings. So nobody actually saw 277 00:09:44,004 --> 00:09:45,445 what their day to day life was. And 278 00:09:45,445 --> 00:09:47,044 once you go into their homes and see 279 00:09:47,044 --> 00:09:49,464 it, it becomes crystal clear what they need. 280 00:09:49,845 --> 00:09:51,365 So that's kind of all of our ideas 281 00:09:51,365 --> 00:09:52,745 came from the patients themselves. 282 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,679 Yeah. And I and I guess what was 283 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,159 happening inside of you in those moments? Like, 284 00:09:57,159 --> 00:09:59,240 was it was it difficult to navigate, like, 285 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,179 the emotions of what you're seeing? 286 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,559 No. I I raised I was raised with 287 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,079 six brothers, so I'm pretty much a male 288 00:10:05,079 --> 00:10:06,700 thinker at times. So 289 00:10:07,079 --> 00:10:08,404 I don't always time on words. I don't 290 00:10:08,404 --> 00:10:09,684 always time like, I get right to the 291 00:10:09,684 --> 00:10:11,125 point. And I like to fix things. I'm 292 00:10:11,125 --> 00:10:13,684 always been a fixer. So for me, it 293 00:10:13,684 --> 00:10:15,304 was a huge challenge. 294 00:10:15,684 --> 00:10:18,325 I had no hands on experience except, going 295 00:10:18,325 --> 00:10:20,424 in there and just figuring it out. So 296 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,559 I had confidence in myself that if I 297 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,320 get there and see it, I'll figure something 298 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,980 out. And it's very important to mention 299 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,679 that none of this could take place without 300 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,600 our program partners. So this is they are 301 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,220 a huge component of everything. 302 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:34,855 So So to go to a country, you 303 00:10:34,855 --> 00:10:36,794 have to have a contact and you have 304 00:10:37,095 --> 00:10:39,014 to find someone you can trust and depend 305 00:10:39,014 --> 00:10:40,934 on. And we were very, very fortunate and 306 00:10:40,934 --> 00:10:42,534 blessed to find a lot of these people 307 00:10:42,534 --> 00:10:44,294 in the countries. If you don't have that, 308 00:10:44,294 --> 00:10:46,214 then you cannot have a program. It's just 309 00:10:46,214 --> 00:10:47,434 as simple as that. 310 00:10:47,779 --> 00:10:49,540 So, again, they would help me. They would 311 00:10:49,540 --> 00:10:52,120 tell me what their needs were. And together, 312 00:10:52,340 --> 00:10:54,179 we would figure out a strategy and a 313 00:10:54,179 --> 00:10:56,980 plan and not just impose what I think 314 00:10:56,980 --> 00:10:59,779 they need but elicit from them how do 315 00:10:59,779 --> 00:11:01,059 we do this. And we see what the 316 00:11:01,059 --> 00:11:02,725 needs are. Now how do we get from 317 00:11:02,725 --> 00:11:04,245 point a to point b given that you 318 00:11:04,245 --> 00:11:06,644 live in, you know, India or Pakistan or 319 00:11:06,644 --> 00:11:08,345 somewhere in Africa? We're 320 00:11:08,725 --> 00:11:09,225 celebrating, 321 00:11:09,605 --> 00:11:11,924 you know, twenty five years of this work. 322 00:11:12,485 --> 00:11:12,985 And 323 00:11:13,524 --> 00:11:15,820 when you think about that, maybe twenty five 324 00:11:15,820 --> 00:11:17,820 years ago, what would you tell that person 325 00:11:17,820 --> 00:11:19,740 or, like, what are you most proud of? 326 00:11:19,740 --> 00:11:21,740 What I think of is gratitude more than 327 00:11:21,740 --> 00:11:23,659 pride, I guess. Because I feel that there's 328 00:11:23,659 --> 00:11:25,740 always tremendous amounts of work to be done 329 00:11:25,740 --> 00:11:28,664 still. There's thousands more children to reach. There's 330 00:11:28,664 --> 00:11:30,264 more work to be done. There's more countries 331 00:11:30,264 --> 00:11:32,424 we need to reach. So I think after 332 00:11:32,424 --> 00:11:34,105 twenty five years, what I look back on 333 00:11:34,105 --> 00:11:35,164 is mostly gratitude. 334 00:11:35,544 --> 00:11:36,524 Grateful that, 335 00:11:36,825 --> 00:11:39,865 the families trust us to help them and 336 00:11:39,865 --> 00:11:42,649 grateful to, first and foremost, the donors who 337 00:11:42,649 --> 00:11:43,710 make all this possible. 338 00:11:44,090 --> 00:11:46,410 The corporate donors, especially I'd like to call 339 00:11:46,410 --> 00:11:47,230 out Patrick 340 00:11:47,690 --> 00:11:50,090 Schmidt of Triple F Enterprises who's been with 341 00:11:50,090 --> 00:11:52,490 us from day one. He's a fantastic donor 342 00:11:52,490 --> 00:11:53,995 and supporter. You You can have all the 343 00:11:53,995 --> 00:11:55,514 money in the world and and just give 344 00:11:55,514 --> 00:11:57,274 it away, but if you don't have people 345 00:11:57,274 --> 00:12:00,235 on the ground running programs and overseeing everything, 346 00:12:00,235 --> 00:12:01,774 they have to deal with all the frustrations 347 00:12:02,154 --> 00:12:04,095 that come with living in a developing country, 348 00:12:04,154 --> 00:12:05,914 and yet they do their jobs and most 349 00:12:05,914 --> 00:12:06,735 of them are volunteers. 350 00:12:07,110 --> 00:12:08,950 Actually, all of them are volunteers. They're pretty 351 00:12:08,950 --> 00:12:09,769 impressive people. 352 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:12,490 Amazing. And, you know, we we see firsthand 353 00:12:13,029 --> 00:12:14,709 the kind of the impact that, you know, 354 00:12:14,709 --> 00:12:17,029 this collaboration of of people has made. So, 355 00:12:17,029 --> 00:12:18,870 you know, for anybody who's listening right now 356 00:12:18,870 --> 00:12:22,225 who is interested in your organization or or 357 00:12:22,225 --> 00:12:24,544 even would want to sponsor a family, what's 358 00:12:24,544 --> 00:12:26,544 that first step they should take? The easy 359 00:12:26,544 --> 00:12:28,785 answer is go to the website and check 360 00:12:28,785 --> 00:12:30,304 out the kids that we have who are 361 00:12:30,304 --> 00:12:31,285 waiting for sponsorship, 362 00:12:31,665 --> 00:12:33,044 saveonlife.net. 363 00:12:33,259 --> 00:12:35,580 But also, you know, examine your reasons for 364 00:12:35,580 --> 00:12:37,659 wanting to help. Look at your donation as 365 00:12:37,659 --> 00:12:39,440 an investment. It's not charity 366 00:12:39,980 --> 00:12:41,980 as much as it's an investment in a 367 00:12:41,980 --> 00:12:42,879 child's future. 368 00:12:43,419 --> 00:12:45,039 So many people want help. 369 00:12:45,444 --> 00:12:47,684 Sometimes they feel I feel guilty. Wealth guilt, 370 00:12:47,684 --> 00:12:49,464 if you will. Just living in America 371 00:12:50,084 --> 00:12:51,684 for all of its issues that we have 372 00:12:51,684 --> 00:12:54,504 these days, America is still an incredible country 373 00:12:54,644 --> 00:12:57,299 that has vast resources and very good hearted 374 00:12:57,459 --> 00:12:59,539 people and trying to get them to see 375 00:12:59,539 --> 00:13:00,899 that the rest of the world is not 376 00:13:00,899 --> 00:13:03,299 so fortunate as we are. Even some of 377 00:13:03,299 --> 00:13:05,059 the most troubled people in our country are 378 00:13:05,059 --> 00:13:07,059 still so much better off than people in 379 00:13:07,059 --> 00:13:07,799 other countries. 380 00:13:08,339 --> 00:13:10,419 So we like to say that it's an 381 00:13:10,419 --> 00:13:13,004 investment in a child's future overseas, and I'd 382 00:13:13,004 --> 00:13:14,205 like people to think of it that way 383 00:13:14,205 --> 00:13:16,225 when they go and look at little faces. 384 00:13:16,445 --> 00:13:18,845 Sometimes you'll find a child whose heart speaks 385 00:13:18,845 --> 00:13:21,184 to you in various reasons. It's almost inexplicable. 386 00:13:21,565 --> 00:13:24,125 Fantastic. And I I loved I loved how 387 00:13:24,125 --> 00:13:26,125 you put it as investment, right, as as 388 00:13:26,125 --> 00:13:27,889 opposed to a a 389 00:13:28,269 --> 00:13:29,710 charity, which is just the way we should 390 00:13:29,710 --> 00:13:31,790 be thinking about, you know, everyone around us. 391 00:13:31,790 --> 00:13:33,950 Thank you so much for helping us kick 392 00:13:33,950 --> 00:13:36,429 off this podcast. And, you know, we'll we'll 393 00:13:36,429 --> 00:13:38,750 be sharing many more stories from all over 394 00:13:38,750 --> 00:13:40,665 the world in the coming episodes. But thank 395 00:13:40,665 --> 00:13:42,904 you again for for being here today. Thank 396 00:13:42,904 --> 00:13:45,545 you, Kai. Absolutely. And thank you everybody for 397 00:13:45,545 --> 00:13:47,465 listening to Where Hope Begins, the Save One 398 00:13:47,465 --> 00:13:50,024 Life podcast. Because when one life is supported, 399 00:13:50,024 --> 00:13:51,884 hope doesn't stop there. It begins. 400 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,159 Thank you for listening to Where Hope Begins, 401 00:14:02,159 --> 00:14:04,399 the Save One Life podcast because when one 402 00:14:04,399 --> 00:14:07,600 life is supported, generations can be transformed. Presented 403 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,840 by Save One Life in partnership with Balancing 404 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,715 Life's Issues, produced by me, Kai. Got an 405 00:14:12,715 --> 00:14:14,715 idea for the show? Send me an email 406 00:14:14,715 --> 00:14:17,615 at kai@balancinglife'sissues.com. 407 00:14:17,674 --> 00:14:20,075 Did today's story move you? Sponsor a child 408 00:14:20,075 --> 00:14:21,674 at save1life.net 409 00:14:21,674 --> 00:14:22,174 backslash 410 00:14:22,475 --> 00:14:24,735 sponsorship. Anything else to add, Miles?