WEBVTT 00:00:27.680 --> 00:00:31.920 Well, hello everyone, and welcome to the Tenpenny Files on the America Out Loud News. 00:00:32.080 --> 00:00:33.040 I'm your host, Dr. 00:00:33.120 --> 00:00:42.160 Sherry Tenpenny, bringing you conversations with authors about vital topics, information that is seldom discussed, even things that are quite controversial. 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:48.320 In each episode, we will explore books that make you think, spark discussion, and inspire action. 00:00:48.480 --> 00:00:53.360 There's so much to do, and I always say so many books and so little time. 00:00:53.680 --> 00:00:56.960 America Out Loud Talk Radio plays on iHeart Radio Network. 00:00:57.120 --> 00:01:02.480 You can also listen to listen to it from our media player from anywhere, any browser in the world. 00:01:02.720 --> 00:01:08.400 My show, the Ten Penny Files, is on iTark iHeartRadio every day at 3 p.m. 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:09.280 Eastern. 00:01:09.520 --> 00:01:12.400 Our special guest today is Scott Walker. 00:01:12.880 --> 00:01:16.720 Scott Walter is the president of Capil Research Center. 00:01:16.800 --> 00:01:27.040 He served as in the George Bush administration as an assistant to the president for domestic policy and was vice president of the philanthropic roundtable. 00:01:27.360 --> 00:01:31.040 He has testified on dark money nonprofits to the U.S. 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:34.960 House, the Senate, the IRS, and state legislatures. 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:45.200 He has written for and been quoted in many outlets, including the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, and The Chronicle of Philanthropy. 00:01:45.360 --> 00:01:53.600 Today we're discussing his book, Arabella, The Dark Money Network of Leftist Billionaires Secretly Transforming America. 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:59.040 The book exposes Arabella advisors as a major dark money operation. 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:02.560 His research reveals Arabella's significant influence on U.S. 00:02:02.720 --> 00:02:15.200 politics and on issues ranging from the Supreme Court nominations to election manipulation, an amazing and fascinating book, kind of edgy, and that's what we hope to bring to you every day on this program. 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:18.240 Well, hello, Scott, and welcome to the Tenpenny Files. 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:18.720 Welcome. 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:20.400 Thank you so much for being here. 00:02:20.720 --> 00:02:22.640 Well, it's great to be with you. 00:02:23.040 --> 00:02:32.240 Well, I want to start with how did you discover this network and what led you to the investigation on a topic that so few people know anything about? 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:38.080 Well, you know, we first uncovered them back in ugly Kavanaugh Summer. 00:02:38.160 --> 00:02:51.360 If you remember the summer uh where Brett Kavanaugh was smeared uh by the ever more vicious left uh uh during his nomination to the Supreme Court. 00:02:51.600 --> 00:02:56.880 And but it actually happened before we knew Brett Kavanaugh was going to be nominated. 00:02:57.040 --> 00:03:01.440 I got a call from a longtime friend at the Senate Judiciary Committee. 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:17.600 Uh, and she said this was after Justice Kennedy had announced he would be retiring, uh, but before the president had nominated any anyone to take his place, and she calls me up very agitated and says, we don't even have a nominee yet. 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:29.040 And yet Chairman Grassley and the committee and the president, everybody's being trashed uh on TV, radio, online by something called demand justice. 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:33.440 And we've never heard of this, and uh, we can't find anything out about it, you know. 00:03:33.600 --> 00:03:35.360 Uh, what should we do? 00:03:35.600 --> 00:03:42.240 And I said, well, I'll be honest, I haven't heard of demand justice either, but we at Capital Research can do something. 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:50.400 So we uh quickly dug into this entity and discovered surprise. 00:03:50.480 --> 00:03:55.920 Uh it had been launched uh only a couple of months earlier, which is why none of us had heard of it. 00:03:56.080 --> 00:04:08.320 And it was launched with a million or two from good old George Soros, um, who had had been pitched on this, his uh his folks had been pitched on it uh at a democracy alliance meeting. 00:04:08.480 --> 00:04:19.520 Democracy Alliance is a cabal of billionaires and sentimillionaires on the left uh that Soros co-founded with Peter Lewis and some years ago. 00:04:20.320 --> 00:04:31.360 And uh they try to invest in left-wing infrastructure uh in the nonprofit world uh to win elections and change public policy. 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:44.560 So uh we were able to supply the committee with uh the fact of the Soros money and also uh the initial staffers who were going to be working there and where they came from. 00:04:44.640 --> 00:04:54.720 Uh the lead staffer had previously been a uh had been the spokesman for the Hillary Clinton campaign, but for president, but obviously he was out needed a new job. 00:04:54.960 --> 00:05:04.400 Um so uh he started demand justice in order to attack all of the judicial nominees of Donald Trump in his first administration. 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:07.040 Now, that was just demand justice, though. 00:05:07.200 --> 00:05:15.440 What we quickly determined is demand justice didn't really exist, didn't have an independent legal entity by that name. 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:20.800 It was a fiscally sponsored project of the 1630 fund. 00:05:21.440 --> 00:05:29.040 Uh and you say, well, I've never heard of the 1630 fund either, and there had been there'd been one or two stories about 1630 fund, but that was all. 00:05:29.200 --> 00:05:33.120 But when we found the 1630 fund, we kept digging. 00:05:33.360 --> 00:06:02.400 And so what we further uncovered was that the 1630 fund was run by something called Arabella Advisors, and at the same address, they ran Arabella Advisors ran several other nonprofits, and each of those nonprofits sponsors dozens or even hundreds in some cases of these fake groups like Demand Justice. 00:06:02.640 --> 00:06:18.320 Uh and that is how we uncovered the whole empire of hundreds of nonprofits, well, sorry, hundreds of groups for coming from about a half dozen nonprofits. 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:23.200 And at that time, poor little Arabella, they weren't so rich. 00:06:23.440 --> 00:06:31.360 They only had about 750 million a year going into their nonprofits. 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:39.040 Now they're at the million to a million and a half a year of uh money going into those nonprofits. 00:06:41.280 --> 00:06:43.680 Wow, that is that's disturbing. 00:06:43.840 --> 00:06:48.400 And as president of Capital Research Center, what does your organization do? 00:06:49.200 --> 00:06:53.680 Uh well, exactly the sort of thing I was just uh describing there. 00:06:53.840 --> 00:07:01.760 Uh we study the we investigate the left deeply and we expose it widely. 00:07:02.080 --> 00:07:14.000 Uh, and we especially follow the money because that's not the only thing that matters, but it's you know, it tells you that this Arabella network is big and powerful and important. 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:17.840 And such an innocuous innocuous name, Arabella. 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:20.480 It just sounds so sweet and loving and kind. 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:23.200 And it's just the antithesis of that, I think. 00:07:23.520 --> 00:07:38.080 Yeah, well, well, you know, there's literally uh, you know, characters have women characters will have that name in, you know, Charles Dickens or Anthony Trollope 19th century novels. 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:43.280 I'm not, I don't remember one in a Jane Austen, although maybe there's one in a Jane Austen too. 00:07:43.440 --> 00:07:45.440 There's definitely in Trollope and all. 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:46.800 But here's the thing. 00:07:46.960 --> 00:07:52.720 There's a can I tell you the great story behind the name because it's it's very interesting. 00:07:52.880 --> 00:07:58.560 Now, the man who founded Arabella in 2005, Eric Kessler. 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:02.720 Uh he is a big environmentalist. 00:08:02.880 --> 00:08:13.520 In fact, uh, I should later on maybe I can tell you the story of how he got radicalized as an undergraduate uh in the 90s uh by uh an environmental wacko. 00:08:13.840 --> 00:08:18.080 Uh but in any event, his greatest single passions, environmentalism. 00:08:18.320 --> 00:08:32.400 So he uh he is uh passionate about environmentalism, and he's starting Arabella advisors in 2005 in a small way, it wasn't a big operation to start with. 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:37.680 And uh now, what was going on in the 2000s, that decade. 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:49.280 Environmentalists were working very hard to try to seduce uh evangelical Christians into joining the environmentalist bandwagon. 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:57.600 Um, believe what was the the the you know, the left always has these great uh you know, great names and slogans. 00:08:57.920 --> 00:09:04.800 It was creation stewardship, something I'm not getting it quite right, but they had a they had a slick name. 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:10.640 Um because they wanted, you know, now cynical me. 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:23.840 I have the odd thought that you know, if you looked at the political landscape, you would say, man, I'd sure like to claw away some of the white evangelical vote from the Republican Party. 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:38.720 Um in my more cynical moments, I suspect the left was trying to do that by trying to rebrand environmentalism as this lovely Christian creation care. 00:09:38.800 --> 00:09:40.640 I think that may have been it, creation care. 00:09:40.880 --> 00:09:44.320 But anyway, they were trying to go after the those evangelicals now. 00:09:44.640 --> 00:09:48.800 Arabella is not just an Anthony Trollope character name. 00:09:49.040 --> 00:09:59.120 It is also the name of the ship on which uh John Winthrop, the great American Puritan, sailed to America. 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:05.360 And by the way, what year did that ship leave for America? 00:10:05.760 --> 00:10:07.440 1630. 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:12.320 And what did I just tell you was the name of one of the nonprofits they created? 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:15.120 1630, right? 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:18.240 And another they created was Hopewell. 00:10:18.400 --> 00:10:19.040 Guess what? 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:24.400 That's another ship that Puritans sailed to the new world to found America. 00:10:24.640 --> 00:10:28.160 Oh, and what was yet another of the nonprofits? 00:10:28.400 --> 00:10:31.680 Well, its name is windward fund. 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:37.120 Well, if you know sailing ships, windward is another sailing term. 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:47.840 So hard not to imagine that this was uh going to be, hey, nobody here but us lovers of the early American Puritans. 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:56.080 Yeah, what a what an evil we web they weave to of deception because it sounds so good. 00:10:56.160 --> 00:10:59.520 And I mean, who wouldn't want to be part of sailing ships? 00:10:59.680 --> 00:11:04.000 I want to ask you to describe Arabella design uh advisors. 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:07.920 Um in your book, you call them the darkest of dark money. 00:11:08.160 --> 00:11:41.120 But first, before that, what is dark money and how does Arabella funding model different from traditional pack donations um and other um uh government agencies that that fund uh policies the term dark money was coined back in 2010 uh by a left-leaning group, uh the Sunshine Foundation, and they used it to apply to 501 C4 nonprofits. 00:11:41.280 --> 00:12:00.080 Now uh for ordinary folks, a C4 nonprofit is uh two easy examples from right and left, the National Rifle Associations of 501 C4, the League of Conservation Voters, founded by the way, by the guy who radicalized Arabella's founder. 00:12:01.280 --> 00:12:04.160 That's you know, a lefty uh C4. 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:13.120 So those are those are not 501 C3s, C3s are charitable institutions. 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:19.920 Um, so you know, if you get a tax deduction for writing a check to it, it's a 501 C3. 00:12:20.560 --> 00:12:20.880 Okay. 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:28.320 So they are not, they have a lot more restrictions on them than the C4s do for politicking. 00:12:28.560 --> 00:12:41.440 Uh C4s can endorse candidates, you know, they can uh they can uh register voters for one political party only, um, that sort of thing, or or make issue ads. 00:12:41.520 --> 00:12:45.040 Obviously, you know, League of Conservation Voters, National Rifle Association, right? 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:49.840 They're out there fighting in their endorsing candidates and they're fighting political fights. 00:12:50.080 --> 00:13:17.920 So that kind of nonprofit was what the term originally applied to, because 2010 is when the Supreme Court handed down the Citizens United decision, which said that those C4 nonprofits and labor unions and corporations could spend on limited amounts of money in politics as long as they weren't coordinating directly with a particular uh political campaign. 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:29.280 So they could say we endorse this candidate, um, but they couldn't uh they couldn't, you know, collude with the candidate to for you know for particular purposes. 00:13:29.520 --> 00:13:47.600 So the three and the reason it's called dark is because while you know the Joe Biden for president campaign or the Republican National Committee, if or a traditional PAC, if you give money to those places, if you give 200 or more, they're required by law to reveal. 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:48.720 Hey, Dr. 00:13:48.880 --> 00:13:52.000 Sherry, she gave us, you know, 500 bucks. 00:13:52.240 --> 00:14:01.840 Um, but if you give 500 bucks to uh the 1630 fund, which is a C4 that Arabella runs, they don't have to say Dr. 00:14:01.920 --> 00:14:03.520 Sherry gave them a penny. 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:06.000 So you stay in the dark. 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.000 And that was the idea of dark money. 00:14:08.160 --> 00:14:25.120 Now, since then it's been such a popular term that uh it's now applied to all kinds of things, including things that are uh including things like you know, a foundation a private foundation's giving, which is every penny of which is reported. 00:14:25.760 --> 00:14:32.560 So uh it's you know, it's become a kind of wobbly term. 00:14:32.880 --> 00:14:40.400 Um, but the general idea is it's money where you're not sure you see you see where the money ended up, but you're not sure where the money started out. 00:14:40.560 --> 00:14:41.040 Did Dr. 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:42.160 Sherry give them the money? 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:43.760 Did Scott Walter give them the money? 00:14:43.920 --> 00:14:46.320 Did George Soros give them the money? 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:49.760 So in essence, it means hidden. 00:14:49.920 --> 00:14:58.000 Um, because frequently when I've heard the term, just as it's thrown about by mainstream media or in books, when I think of dark money, I think of dirty money. 00:14:58.160 --> 00:15:01.920 I think that it's you know evil and and subscripted. 00:15:02.160 --> 00:15:11.760 And uh to a certain sense, I think it is, and you kind of bring that out in your book when you said that Arabella raised over 2.4 billion dollars in the last election cycle. 00:15:11.920 --> 00:15:17.360 I mean, where does that money come from and how is it used to shape outcomes? 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:34.080 Uh the um it actually it was 2.4 uh billion in the 2020 cycle, last presidential cycle in 2022, uh it was three billion. 00:15:34.400 --> 00:15:49.440 And we don't know for the 2024 cycle because they haven't had to uh they get basically about a year before they have to file with their IRS public disclosures about what they've raised, what they've spent. 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:51.840 So who knows what it'll be in 24? 00:15:52.240 --> 00:16:01.600 But um the uh uh remember they have half a dozen nonprofits. 00:16:01.760 --> 00:16:07.920 Some of them are C3s, the charitable types, some of them are C4s, the political type. 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:51.440 And um, so the uh but the the money that they raise mostly comes from big donors, whether that uh is billionaires writing personal checks uh or huge foundations like the Gates Foundation or the Soros' Open Society Foundations, the three biggest donors uh are uh in the past at least have been Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, and George Soros. 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:57.840 Now, and I should say though that Bill Gates very recently announced he wasn't going to give them another penny. 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:10.560 Um that news leaked, they leaked that to the New York Times, and it appeared in the news the same day that Bill Gates got a one-on-one sit-down with Donald Trump. 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:19.600 So my uh speculation there is that he was uh doing this as a peace offering to the president. 00:17:19.760 --> 00:17:24.080 Uh the president's called Arabella advisors public enemy number one. 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:37.760 So uh I think that Gates thought that saying that he was going to cut off this big lefty uh uh funding network would be a way to soften up the the president to him. 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:41.920 Are these um these groups with Arabella? 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:50.160 Because you've mentioned a couple of times that they fund uh like splinter groups, and you've called them in your book, pop-up groups that they just popped up out of nowhere. 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:55.440 They gave them a name, and some of them are uh filed as C4s, some aren't. 00:17:55.600 --> 00:17:59.920 Um can you give us a few examples of who they might be and how they operate? 00:18:00.080 --> 00:18:02.720 And is that related to Antifa at all? 00:18:02.800 --> 00:18:07.360 And what uh you know, President Trump is now calling Antifa as a terrorist organization. 00:18:07.520 --> 00:18:12.000 Is that trying to chop off the limbs of the Arabella movement? 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:15.040 Uh sure let's see. 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:18.000 So to start with, um, I'll give you some some names. 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:20.800 Again, the left is wonderful at marketing. 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:23.120 All the names sound just swell. 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:32.640 Uh Floridians for a fair shake, secure Michigan elections, opportunity Wisconsin. 00:18:33.040 --> 00:18:35.680 Keep Iowa healthy, right? 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:43.680 They sound wonderful, and they want you to think that it's some of your neighbors have gotten together because they're upset about something, right? 00:18:44.320 --> 00:18:54.720 When in fact, it's just some doofus at a little desk in DC who's can created a website uh and bought some Facebook ads. 00:18:55.040 --> 00:19:00.720 Uh, I mean, so that's why we call them fake groups, right? 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:13.920 I would happily bet a hundred dollars that the guy who crafted the logo for keep Iowa Healthy and created the website. 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:20.240 I'd bet you a hundred bucks he is probably net never met an Iowan in his life. 00:19:20.800 --> 00:19:21.360 Wow. 00:19:21.600 --> 00:19:25.680 Um so uh that's fake, right? 00:19:25.840 --> 00:19:27.120 That's very fake. 00:19:27.360 --> 00:19:49.360 Um the uh now um as far as the uh Antifa goes, um, as you know, the more ill the more illegality a lefty group commits, the harder they work to to stay in the dark, right? 00:19:49.760 --> 00:19:58.640 Um, on the one hand, it's a shameful lie to say that, oh, Antifa is just an idea or an ideology or whatever. 00:19:58.800 --> 00:19:59.600 It's like, well, 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:05.680 It's not like the ACLU where you can go say, here's their national headquarters at this address. 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:08.640 But it is an organization. 00:20:08.800 --> 00:20:13.040 It's just, it is a decentralized organization, admittedly. 00:20:13.280 --> 00:20:19.440 Uh and it works very hard to stay in the shadows, cover its tracks. 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:27.600 Um, which means it's not as easy to trace as some of these things, like the ones I was just rattling off for you there. 00:20:28.080 --> 00:20:33.600 But um, and and so far as we have been able to tell, so thus far. 00:20:35.840 --> 00:20:42.880 It isn't clear that the Arabella network has done much funding of the most radical groups. 00:20:43.040 --> 00:20:51.280 Um there is, but this probably the second largest and most important left-wing uh network that functions like Arabella. 00:20:51.360 --> 00:20:56.320 Uh, that's the one that the Tides Foundation is the centerpiece of. 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.480 You have the Tides Foundation, the Tide Center, Tides Advocacy. 00:21:00.560 --> 00:21:01.840 There's about a half dozen of them. 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:04.000 Um, by the way, you should go to our website. 00:21:04.080 --> 00:21:08.560 Um, you should go to our website, uh, influencewatch.org. 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:10.960 That is our online Wikipedia of the left. 00:21:11.040 --> 00:21:14.960 You can all these groups I'm mentioning, all these people, everything's on there. 00:21:15.040 --> 00:21:16.800 You can get a whole much deeper dive. 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:23.280 I warn you, you'll you'll lose five hours of your life the first time you go on the site because you keep going down all these rabbit holes. 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:26.720 Um, but it also documents everything I'm saying. 00:21:26.800 --> 00:21:28.400 So don't believe me. 00:21:28.560 --> 00:21:33.920 Go to Influence Watch, look at the footnotes, see if we're not documenting all of this. 00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:51.520 But um, and so it and you can go there and you can look up like Tides Nexus, and that gives you the landscape of I believe uh the seven different, I believe there's at least seven entities um that make up this family of this in this network. 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:54.400 And they do the same sorts of things. 00:21:54.560 --> 00:22:01.120 They fiscally sponsor groups, right, that don't have their own independent legal existence. 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:05.760 And again, that lets that means you can't trace the money, right? 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:14.560 I know people who gave money to Tide Center, and I know Tide Center fiscally sponsored all these groups, but which donor sponsored which group, right? 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:16.800 What you know, you you can't, you know where the money's going. 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:26.080 Plus, the other thing for those sponsored groups is they don't have to do what, you know, what my C3, Capital Research Center is a C3. 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:29.760 Happy to take your donations, give you tax deduction. 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:31.280 Um, but guess what? 00:22:31.520 --> 00:22:38.880 I have to file every year with the IRS and make public the salaries of all our biggest employers, uh, employees. 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:54.800 I've tell you what what my biggest vendors are, you know, who the plate outside places I spent the most money on, have to tell you how much money I took in, how much money I put out, have to list my board members, have to tell you, am I doing first trash first class travel? 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:57.040 What did I spend on fundraising? 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:00.720 All these things I have to report every year. 00:23:01.040 --> 00:23:04.080 Um keep Iowa's healthy. 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:05.520 Uh-uh, they don't. 00:23:05.600 --> 00:23:13.520 They're just one little project under um one of those Arabella nonprofits that has dozens or hundreds of these things. 00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:16.560 So again, you can't begin to figure these things out. 00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:19.760 And especially, you know, in the case like it matters, right? 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:24.880 Um, the Washington Post was uh a couple years ago is trying to attack us over something. 00:23:25.120 --> 00:23:28.800 They didn't just try to call me and my communications director. 00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:32.480 They went and called all my board members because they had their names. 00:23:32.800 --> 00:23:36.960 Well, probably keep Iowans Healthy doesn't have board members. 00:23:37.360 --> 00:23:39.680 And if it did, you wouldn't know their names. 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:40.480 Wow. 00:23:40.800 --> 00:23:41.920 Well, hold that thought, right? 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:52.160 Hold that thought right there, Scott, because that is a really really interesting topic, and it shows us all of the things that are happening behind the scenes that we don't know anything about. 00:23:52.320 --> 00:23:58.640 So we're going to take a uh short break to hear from our sponsors for AmericaOutloud.news. 00:23:58.800 --> 00:24:05.360 Um, we are sponsored every day on this on this host on this platform that broadcasts up to iHeartRadio. 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was trying to say. 00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:53.120 And I'm really concerned, and I've thought about this for years. 00:29:53.280 --> 00:29:54.800 Maybe you can explain this to me. 00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.920 How is George Soros still an American citizen? 00:29:58.080 --> 00:29:59.840 Shouldn't he be charged with trees and 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:18.000 Maybe sedition for all of the things that we know for sure that he's been involved in and all of the the organizations that he's funded against America and there were and now you're on you're revealing hundreds more that he may be involved in in the destruction of America. 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:21.040 How is that legal and how is that happening? 00:30:21.840 --> 00:30:33.040 Uh well, um the nonprofit sector uh gets extremely little enforcement of its laws. 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:39.360 Um this is uh and especially the left-wing side gets very little, right? 00:30:39.520 --> 00:30:45.840 I'm sure you remember from about a decade ago uh the Lois Lerner scandal at the IRS, right? 00:30:46.000 --> 00:31:02.880 Lois Lerner was a high-ranking IRS official in charge of all nonprofits, and she harassed around 300 conservative groups who were trying to be recognized by the IRS and participate in the 2012 election. 00:31:03.040 --> 00:31:09.600 Almost all those groups were of the C4 type, the political type that can you know try to win elections legitimately. 00:31:09.760 --> 00:31:13.280 Now, on the left, they use the C3 charities to try to win elections too. 00:31:13.360 --> 00:31:27.920 That's a whole nother story, and that's outrageous because of course that's not legal, but um, but anyway, she held up hundreds of these, and basically sidelined them so they were not able to operate in the 2012 election. 00:31:28.160 --> 00:32:03.360 There's a very interesting uh research paper by an economist from Harvard, one from Sweden, and one from the American Enterprise Institute, and looks at how much conservative C4 groups, the difference that they made in prior elections, and says uh that actually if Lois Lerner had not been doing this, there's reason to believe that Barack Obama would not have won the 2008 election because the the conservative the all that many conservative groups would have boosted conservative turnout and Obama would have lost. 00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:10.400 So, other than Miss Lerner and what she did, there isn't a lot of enforcement of these nonprofit laws. 00:32:10.560 --> 00:32:18.000 Um now, as for criminal uh prosecutions, that is a lot harder. 00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:22.960 Um so we should have, you know, we should be very uh clear-eyed. 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:32.720 Uh it is not an easy thing to prove a conspiracy charge or an aiding and a betting charge, especially in the case of nonprofits. 00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:49.680 You'd have to you'd have to prove that uh Soros or other board members knew their money was going to be used for illegal activities and colluded with the people who were committing the the criminal activities and the rest. 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:56.400 Um now if if there was a deep investigation, I don't know what you'd find. 00:32:56.480 --> 00:33:01.200 Obviously, I you know I don't have access to their private files and communications. 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:17.600 Um in general, it is very tricky to do prosecutions like that in the nonprofit world, and prosecutors traditionally haven't done it. 00:33:17.760 --> 00:33:18.960 You know, they'd be very hard. 00:33:19.040 --> 00:33:25.360 There are not not many cases you could find at all of examples of anybody being prosecuted like that. 00:33:25.520 --> 00:33:37.680 And then, as I said, even just the plain old nonprofit laws, for instance, the ones that say that charitable groups are not supposed to be doing partisan voter registration, which we have a whole huge report on that. 00:33:37.760 --> 00:33:44.160 Um, how charities secretly win elections, um, go to capital or the main websites, capitalresearch.org. 00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.080 You can look up that long report. 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:49.120 It's it's stunning what it documents. 00:33:49.360 --> 00:34:06.320 Um, but the left has been for decades, they've been using charitable money to pay for and charitable groups to carry out partisan voter registration, even though C3s are absolutely not supposed to be partisan actors in elections. 00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:10.720 You know, it sounds like the way to craft out the perfect crime. 00:34:11.040 --> 00:34:28.160 I mean, if you are wanting to do uh, you know, election manipulation, manipulation of the Supreme Court, uh all sorts of things from a political standpoint, it sounds like being able to set up these organizations are the perfect crime to be able to commit that. 00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:30.240 Um, would you see it that way too? 00:34:30.560 --> 00:34:36.400 Well, you know, there's a reason that Arabella is able to get billions of dollars. 00:34:36.560 --> 00:34:43.040 Uh, you know, if they wouldn't be getting those billions if there was no return on the investment. 00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:52.400 So you you are quite right that now part of this, by the way, is yet yet another left-wing crime, as it were to, as it were. 00:34:52.560 --> 00:35:02.800 Um, it it rhetorically speaking, it is a crime that the left has succeeded in pushing so-called campaign finance reform on us. 00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:20.720 The gist of campaign finance reform is to squeeze uh dollars out of the regular political things like campaigns, Republican National Committee, uh, you know, the the so-called hard dollars, right? 00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:23.520 Um, those get disclosed. 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:34.720 That's not particularly controversial, but campaign finance reform makes it greatly limits the it uh the way money can get in there, right? 00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:40.080 Like you have a couple thousand dollars is all you can give a candidate in a general election, right? 00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:41.600 That's ridiculous. 00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:49.280 You can't, I mean, I don't think highly of our elected officials, but I don't think any of them are for sale for a couple of grand. 00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:53.360 Um that's you know, they're they may have a price, it's higher than that. 00:35:53.600 --> 00:35:59.920 So there you're squeezing money out of that world, but money is like water, it's gonna go somewhere. 00:36:00.160 --> 00:36:06.160 Because it's squeezed out of that world, it goes into the C4 and C3 worlds. 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:11.840 And by the way, they're not touched by campaign finance reform at all. 00:36:12.160 --> 00:36:16.080 Ain't no limit on what the Ford Foundation can spend. 00:36:16.240 --> 00:36:21.840 Um, and by the way, for Arabella, there's no you'll you have no limits of any kind, right? 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:27.920 There for all those nonprofits Arabella has, you can give them 50 billion dollars if you want to. 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:29.920 There's absolutely no monetary limit. 00:36:30.160 --> 00:36:33.600 The second thing there's no limit to is on foreigners. 00:36:34.560 --> 00:36:40.960 One of their biggest sugar daddies from the very beginning is Hans Jurg Vies. 00:36:41.520 --> 00:36:42.880 He is a Swiss national. 00:36:43.040 --> 00:36:44.960 He does not have American citizenship. 00:36:45.120 --> 00:36:47.440 He doesn't even have a green card, right? 00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:55.760 Um, and he has given them uh hundreds of millions of dollars uh over the years. 00:36:56.000 --> 00:37:01.520 And as I said, he was also one of their very as far as we can tell, he was the first real sugar daddy. 00:37:01.600 --> 00:37:04.720 Um the first one to ever give them a million dollars. 00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:14.400 Uh so the there's no limit on foreign sources of funds for this stuff. 00:37:14.640 --> 00:37:30.400 Uh so if we changed our laws so that it was easier to give to the political parties and the political campaigns and the traditional PACs, uh, you would have a whole lot less of all these other things. 00:37:30.640 --> 00:37:38.320 Now, by the way, the last big campaign finance law that was passed was the McCain Feingold Law back in the early 2000s. 00:37:38.640 --> 00:37:43.520 Would you care to guess who spent virtually every penny of money that was put into that? 00:37:45.040 --> 00:37:48.480 No, no, eight eight billionaires. 00:37:49.040 --> 00:37:52.560 Uh and they and they all had the same last name. 00:37:52.640 --> 00:37:56.320 Uh, I'll let you guess that one, but it's a hard Rockefeller. 00:37:56.720 --> 00:37:58.000 Oh, that's not a bad guess. 00:37:58.080 --> 00:38:02.240 But no, the last name of those eight owners was foundation. 00:38:02.720 --> 00:38:03.840 Oh, okay. 00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:04.400 All right. 00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:10.080 Ford Foundation, Open Society Foundation, but Carnegie Foundation. 00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:21.680 So eight of those guys for a decade spent almost all the money that was spent to push campaign finance reform. 00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:32.640 And they finally got what they wanted, and it did nothing to diminish their spending uh or political strength. 00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:34.960 As I said, not at all, not a bit. 00:38:35.200 --> 00:38:43.680 Um, and after the the law was passed, and shame on McCain and a few other Republicans for going along with it. 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:55.920 Uh after the law was passed, the main ringleader for the whole operation, because like a the biggest chunk of money by far came from Pew Charitable Trusts, another foundation. 00:38:56.160 --> 00:39:04.960 And the guy who ran the campaign there for a decade was giving a talk to some journalists out in California, which luckily somebody videotaped. 00:39:05.120 --> 00:39:07.200 And he was teasing those journalists. 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:10.480 He said, we just won this huge fight. 00:39:10.560 --> 00:39:19.120 We've been fighting for 10 years to pass this bill, and none of you guys caught the story, which is that we were the ones pushing it. 00:39:19.200 --> 00:39:25.520 We puke charitable trusts were the ringleader with a lot of nice checks from people like Ford Foundation. 00:39:25.680 --> 00:39:29.680 Um, in addition, he said, you guys never caught on. 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:31.520 You never figured it out. 00:39:31.680 --> 00:39:35.440 And he said, we and and he said, and it's as far as I know it's true. 00:39:35.520 --> 00:39:36.880 He said, we didn't violate any laws. 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:42.720 That is to say, they revealed the grants they were making on their nine nine on their IRS filings. 00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:49.360 But we urged all the people getting money to push, all the groups who got the money to push this. 00:39:49.520 --> 00:39:58.480 We urged them never to mention us because we knew if Congress knew this was a Pew Charitable Trust thing, it wouldn't go through. 00:39:58.880 --> 00:39:59.680 So he said, we want. 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:06.960 His very words were we wanted to create the appearance of a mass movement for campaign finance reform. 00:40:07.120 --> 00:40:09.040 Now, Sherry, how's this? 00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:11.280 Pew does do some good polling. 00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:28.400 So just weeks before the idiots in Congress passed the law, Pew polling did a poll, and they ask Americans, here are 22 issues, rank them in order of importance to you, the American voter. 00:40:29.120 --> 00:40:34.560 The absolute last was campaign finance reform. 00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:42.880 So they literally knew that Americans didn't give a darn about this nonsense. 00:40:43.200 --> 00:41:03.120 But by funding every imaginable kind of group, like they had Hispanic groups and old people groups and young people groups and poor groups and black groups and this, that all these groups had been pounding on the table saying, oh, we really want campaign finance reform because their puppet master donors were pushing them. 00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:07.200 The press were stupid and never figured it out. 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:12.240 And the um uh and they got their law. 00:41:12.720 --> 00:41:14.000 Isn't that nice? 00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:19.280 You know, Scott, um, you've been in and around politics for a long time. 00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:29.600 You know, you were part of the Bush administration early on, and you've been in the Washington area kind of as a think tank and investigative and investigative tank for a long time. 00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:35.040 Reading your book, Arabella, and learning about these things in detail. 00:41:35.120 --> 00:41:48.080 I think that a lot of people who haven't read your book yet will be hugely surprised, and there'll be a set of people that will be somewhat surprised because we've known about these things, but not in the detail that you bring it forth. 00:41:48.240 --> 00:42:25.600 And I, as I read through your book, I found it quite discouraging, you know, that it's really not we the people and all this goate rah-rah and the mega maha movement stuff of things that are going on now, and and that, you know, if we spend our time going to Washington, DC and walking around to all the halls of of the Rayburn building and trying to talk to senators and congressmen and showing up at hearings to try to make a difference and show that you know you're here representing us, and here we are, and we're following you, particularly in this administration, that we're really following the cabinet members. 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:36.240 I mean, I've said several times to people in the last four presidencies or longer, can you name anybody that was on the cabinet? 00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.000 And most people would say no. 00:42:38.240 --> 00:42:50.560 And now this particular cabinet, we know all of them, if not most of them, and know what they're doing, and we follow them depending on what our individual needs are, our individual interests are. 00:42:50.720 --> 00:42:53.120 And it just seems like it's a lot of charade. 00:42:53.440 --> 00:43:08.720 You know, when you've got big, big money, huge money, like sorrows and gates and um, you know, Zuckerberg, and now you mentioned all the foundations, and we know about the foundation money and how dark that has been for a really long time, pulling the strings and pushing the buttons. 00:43:09.040 --> 00:43:20.560 Is it really worth our effort to kind of try to be we the people when you've got this big dark money organizations pushing and pulling all the strings behind the scenes? 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:28.640 Yeah, well, uh, I I will be honest, the most common comment after I give a talk is you really depress me. 00:43:29.040 --> 00:43:36.320 Uh uh, but um uh I have two thoughts on that. 00:43:36.640 --> 00:43:53.600 And one of the thoughts is we should never forget that a handful of backwoods colonials knocked down the biggest empire the world had ever seen because they were attached to America's founding principles, right? 00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:59.280 Now, if you're really gloomy, you'll come back at me and say, yeah, that was two and a half centuries ago. 00:43:59.600 --> 00:44:15.920 Uh but what I would say, the second thing I would say is what is the left number one agenda item for the entire left to shut you up, to silence you, to cancel you, to deplatform you, to censor you. 00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:30.720 Now, I understand that you may feel powerless after you hear me talk or read some of my book, but if you were powerless, they would not be so desperate to silence you. 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:33.840 Uh, you are dangerous. 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.720 Uh, you're not powerless, you're dangerous. 00:44:37.040 --> 00:44:53.840 And, you know, right after the 2016 election, you saw Twitter and Google and Facebook and all, and all they're you know, all those meetings where they're sobbing and hysterical, like, oh my God, this is our fault that that the evil orange man won and it's our fault. 00:44:54.000 --> 00:45:06.640 Well, you know, they they weren't really wrong because social media platforms let Americans talk to one another without gatekeepers, without censorship. 00:45:06.720 --> 00:45:12.160 Now, obviously, they then turned right around and try to create new gatekeeping and censorship and all this. 00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:16.640 But the point is, by their nature, they let Americans talk. 00:45:16.720 --> 00:45:22.960 And you got to remember three quarters of Americans agree with at least three quarters of what you think, right? 00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:26.640 Um, yeah, I mean, there are crazies out in the street. 00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:28.400 There are not a lot of them. 00:45:28.560 --> 00:45:31.840 Uh, most people are not remotely like that. 00:45:32.160 --> 00:45:41.760 So the left has the problem that if Americans talk to each other, their natural conservatism wins out. 00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:44.960 The other problem it has is like we have better arguments. 00:45:45.200 --> 00:45:50.400 If people hear both sides, again, a big majority is go to our sides. 00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:53.200 If I like we just did a big report on homelessness, right? 00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:58.000 And we said the harm reduction, you know, goofy lefty thing is really stupid. 00:45:58.080 --> 00:46:03.760 That's like we're gonna you got a fentanyl or heroin addiction, great, we're gonna help you with with clean needles, right? 00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:08.800 And you know, you're probably not gonna get over the fentanyl and the heroin with clean needles, right? 00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:11.760 Or we're gonna give you some government subsidized housing. 00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:13.840 Well, and you're schizophrenic. 00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:18.800 Well, you know, the government subsidized housing sounds nice, but I'm not sure it's gonna cure schizophrenia, right? 00:46:19.200 --> 00:46:23.360 So people know that you huge majorities know this. 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:25.920 Well, one of my favorite things, I care about election integrity. 00:46:26.080 --> 00:46:37.120 You know, to listen to the mainstream media, you would think that only people who own a Ku Klux Klan hood are in favor of uh voter ID. 00:46:37.520 --> 00:46:45.600 When actually huge majorities of every single demographic support voter ID. 00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:48.400 That's like an 80, 20, 90, 10 thing. 00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:52.640 Or we do we're talking about foreign money going into Arabella's nonprofits. 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:59.200 The percentage of Americans who think that foreigners should be putting big money into our elections, that's not even 10%. 00:47:01.040 --> 00:47:10.640 So by the way, uh, who's when Ohio banned foreign money from uh ballot initiative funding in Ohio recently, who went to sue them? 00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:14.320 Mark Elias, the Democrat super lawyer. 00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.920 Oh, and by the way, he's also the lawyer for Hans Jürg Wies. 00:47:18.640 --> 00:47:21.200 So, but I will say this. 00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:25.920 Be sure you say over and over, these are the people trying to suppress democracy. 00:47:26.160 --> 00:47:28.880 Democracy wants voter ID and they're trying to suppress it. 00:47:29.040 --> 00:47:36.720 Democracy wants foreign money out of our elections, and they're trying to suppress uh that uh any policy like that. 00:47:37.200 --> 00:47:39.840 What is the what is their end game, Scott? 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:47.440 You know, this is the thing as a as a conservative Christian woman that I am, and very strongly leaning right. 00:47:47.600 --> 00:48:02.240 I just, it's like if you want to destroy America and you want it to all go away, you want to shred up the constitution, you want to let open the open open doors and every foreign person come in and take over your land, your schools, your churches. 00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:04.960 I mean, uh, what is their end game? 00:48:05.040 --> 00:48:06.160 What do they really want? 00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:09.600 And why do they not think that it also applies to them? 00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:18.480 I mean, if they bring in Marxism and socialism, is it only going to apply to the to the conservative people and not to them, and they get to continue on their life? 00:48:18.640 --> 00:48:29.280 I mean, I could not imagine a group of Christian people going into Saudi Arabia and saying, we're gonna take over this land here, and we're gonna put a Christian church right in the middle of it. 00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:32.400 We're not gonna have anything to do with Sharia law or any of your laws here. 00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:39.600 We're gonna follow our constitution and be allowed to even utter those words, let alone build buildings and build houses. 00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:47.280 I mean, what is the end game of the end game of people like Arabella advisors and people of their ilk? 00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:57.600 Uh well, uh the one the last chapter in the book, by the way, get gets into this because people are always asking me that. 00:48:57.680 --> 00:49:04.960 And I can't, you know, what Woody Allen said he had a friend who cheated on his metaphysics exam by looking into the soul of the student next to him. 00:49:05.120 --> 00:49:09.040 Um I I'm not, I'm not, I don't have that gift. 00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.480 But so all I can do is see is look at patterns. 00:49:12.560 --> 00:49:24.400 And the pattern that I see with Arabella um and a lot of the left is they are always about centralizing all power and authority in Washington. 00:49:24.560 --> 00:49:34.720 And they are never in favor of anything that is gonna have you or your family or your neighborhood or your town have more freedom, authority, responsibility. 00:49:35.040 --> 00:49:42.400 Um, and the, you know, speaking of Christianity, I think this fits with something that St. 00:49:42.560 --> 00:49:44.080 Augustine taught, right? 00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:48.240 Um, he didn't just talk about lust of the body. 00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:59.840 When we talk about lust, we think about you know, just bodily lust, but he said, no, there's a more powerful lust than that, and it's libido dominandi, the lust for power, control, dominance. 00:50:00.720 --> 00:50:13.600 And uh not every billionaire is like that, but the kind of billionaires that give money to Arabella, that very much seems to be um the way they look at it. 00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:20.480 And both the Bible and the ancient philosophers like Plato and Aristotle were very clear. 00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:22.320 Human wants are infinite. 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:27.760 Now, Christian would say that's because we're made to be to have communion with the infinite God. 00:50:28.160 --> 00:50:32.800 Um, but you don't have to believe that just to believe the brute fact. 00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:34.240 People are not satisfied. 00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:41.920 The ordinary person who's not a billionaire thinks, oh, if I had a billion dollars, I'd just be lying around my yacht and you know, drinking rum drinks or something, right? 00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.440 But um apparently that's not the case. 00:50:45.520 --> 00:50:49.360 When you have a billion dollars, apparently that's frequently not the case. 00:50:49.520 --> 00:50:51.520 Uh, you don't just want to lie around the yacht. 00:50:51.680 --> 00:50:53.520 You want more, more, more. 00:50:53.760 --> 00:51:01.440 Those infinite desires that we have in us, uh, you and I would say placed in us by the infinite God who created us. 00:51:02.080 --> 00:51:04.640 You know, they're not easily satisfied. 00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:07.280 I think that's really well stated. 00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:09.440 I think I've read something similar to that. 00:51:09.680 --> 00:51:17.600 That when you have all the money in the world or more money than you could ever spend in 10 lifetimes, it's not about possessions anymore. 00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:24.320 It's about control, about power, um, and who can move countries and and manipulate things at the biggest level. 00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:27.680 I think I've read something about that before, and I think that's really true. 00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:29.200 I think that's really well said. 00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:36.640 Well, Scott Walker, your book, Arabella, The Dark Money Network and the Leftist of the Leftist Billionaires Secretly Transforming America. 00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:40.240 We've got just a few minutes left here in our in our conversation today. 00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:48.400 What would be your take-home message from your book that you would want people to walk away from after they've read it? 00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:54.400 Uh, well, I think one important thing is uh, and this gets back to the don't despair. 00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:56.080 You're not supposed to be despairing. 00:51:56.240 --> 00:52:02.080 Um, for last I checked for a Christian, the job description is picking up a cross every day, right? 00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:06.480 So um uh you shouldn't despair. 00:52:06.640 --> 00:52:15.280 And one reason you shouldn't despair is that what you and I are doing right here is a very powerful weapon against um the Arabella schemes. 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:18.720 You know, the Arabella scheme is essentially the Wizard of Oz. 00:52:19.040 --> 00:52:24.000 Now, remember the movie, beginning of the movie, the wizard's big, powerful, scary. 00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:27.520 He powerfully influences Dorothy, doesn't he? 00:52:28.080 --> 00:52:38.480 But later, somebody pulls the curtain back, and you see it's just some old guy at a microphone, as I said now, it's just some probably some young guy at a computer. 00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:46.000 Um, once Dorothy sees that, is the wizard powerful anymore? 00:52:46.240 --> 00:52:46.560 Right? 00:52:46.720 --> 00:52:53.920 It doesn't, it doesn't work when you so what you and I are doing here, educating people about what's going on. 00:52:54.880 --> 00:53:02.720 That is a that's a tremendous weakening of the wizard's ability to scare and influence people. 00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:07.680 Wow, how strong and a powerful closing message that is. 00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:09.360 That is that's really brilliant. 00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:17.920 And you're right, you know, when the is when the emperor when people really realize the emperor has no clothes and it and points it out to the emperor, we win. 00:53:18.080 --> 00:53:19.680 So I think that's really, really good. 00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:32.960 So, Scott, are there other places other than your book that that we can follow you or on social media or places um inside of your organization that you well people can look at more of the work that you've done and more of the writings that you have? 00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:46.560 Well, uh, capitalresearch.org is our main site, and you can sign up for a uh twice-a-month newsletter that'll just give not money begging, but giving you our greatest hits of our research each each two weeks. 00:53:46.720 --> 00:53:50.800 Um, influencewatch.org, as I said, is our Wikipedia of the left. 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:56.000 Looks and feels like Wikipedia has all the the groups and people we've been talking about on there. 00:53:56.240 --> 00:54:08.160 Um the dogefiles uh.org is another site where we give you the worst grants from all the major federal departments uh that your tax dollars have gone to. 00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:10.960 Now that talk about depressing, that's depressing. 00:54:11.200 --> 00:54:15.920 But uh, those are three three great websites uh to take a look at. 00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:26.800 And then, yes, if you go to the capitalresearch.org, the main site, you'll have links to our Instagram and uh Twitter and Facebook and all that, and we'd love to have you follow us on those. 00:54:27.200 --> 00:54:34.640 Well, I want to thank you so much for your work, number one, and number two, most important, more importantly, for being on our show with us here today. 00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:38.560 Um, this is just an amazing uh revelation. 00:54:38.720 --> 00:54:42.960 This is another layer of assault on America and American citizens and our way of life. 00:54:43.040 --> 00:54:49.360 And it's somewhere between the woke agenda and the billions of dark money that our freedoms are being taken away. 00:54:49.520 --> 00:54:59.040 And we're really hopeful that conversations like this, and as Scott just pointed out, they're very important conversations because once you know what you know, you can't unknow it. 00:54:59.200 --> 00:55:07.680 And when you continue to have conversations about important issues that expose things, um, we the people still do have power. 00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:11.760 We still do have uh voting power, we still do have language. 00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:27.760 I've been involved more in American politics in since this election, particularly because of Secretary Kennedy being head of HHS, who's been a longtime friend of mine and a person that I've done a lot of work with over the years, um, been more involved with than ever. 00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:29.360 And we do make a difference. 00:55:29.520 --> 00:55:43.200 I mean, the representatives were saying things like they have never in all of their history of being down in Congress, representatives and senators saying we've seen so many people show up for a hearing for confirmation of a cabinet member. 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:45.680 And so we have really gotten their attention. 00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:50.560 And this book, Arabella, um, is really an important, really important book. 00:55:50.720 --> 00:55:58.400 Arabella, the full title of the book is Arabella, the dark money network of leftist billionaires secretly transforming America. 00:55:58.560 --> 00:56:01.280 And once we know what that is, we can stop that. 00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:02.800 So this is very important. 00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:06.880 So I want to 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