[00:00:00:04 - 00:00:56:06] Speaker 2 Welcome to macroaggressions. I'm your host, Charlie Robinson. If you're watching us on Rock Fin or Rumble, or you are listening, wherever podcasts are served, we appreciate it. Thanks, a million. We know you have a ton of other choices out there. Have you rated the show? Oh, if you could take just a second or two, I would really appreciate it. If you think we've earned a five-star rating, please give it to us. It's not an ego trip, I assure you. It's an algo trip. We're trying to fight those bastards over there at the big tech companies. Hey, our sponsors make this show happen. Big thank you to them. Legal Shield has been in business for half a century in the United States and Canada. And they will get you access to an attorney in your area for a very, very reasonable price. How reasonable? A dollar a day? That worked? 30 bucks a month. That'll get you in with Legal Shield. And what you all do is you'll get an app on your phone. 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I put it on my shopping cart and on my way out, I use the discount code MACRO, but I just buy like six packs of Green 85 instead. So I can take care of a couple months all at once. So get the detox bundle, take a look at that, or you might even want to look at something else that we've got over there. It's called Electric Silver Solution and also Electric Silver Gel. We're going to talk a little bit more about that in a second. But if you are so inclined, go to chemicalfreebody.com and use the discount code MACRO. Well, I said we were going to talk a little bit about silver. You know, the guy that gets Tim all of his silver for the Electric Silver Solution and the Electric Silver Gel is our guest right here. Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Keith Muller. Hey, Dr. Keith, how are you? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me. Well, thanks for being here. Thanks for getting Tim his silver because I hear he calls me and says, "You got to talk to Dr. Keith. You got to talk to him about his silver." It's magic. He's got the best silver in the business. And I'll tell you what's funny about with Tim. Tim is so honest. [00:03:37:02 - 00:05:13:15] Speaker 2 Tim is so honest. He said to me one day, we were talking about vitamins and supplements, and he's very passionate about it, Keith. He said, "I have the second best vitamin formulator in the world." And I was like, "That is amazing." He said, "My guy is fantastic. The stuff he makes is so good, and the formula he uses is so good, and when you buy Green85, you're getting the best stuff, and it's made perfect way. We have tinkered with this, and it's fantastic, and it'll just make you feel great." I said, "Yeah, I know, Tim. I take it every morning. I have taken it every morning, but I have to ask, since you set me up with this question, if you have the number two best vitamin formulator, who's got the best one?" And he said, "Alex Jones." And I was like, "What?" And he said, "Yeah, Alex Jones has really good stuff." I thought, "Well, that's interesting. You don't normally get the guy telling you that his competitor also has good stuff, but that's Tim James for you. He's honest. He's honest with you, and he's going to tell you his stuff works really well. He's also going to tell you that there is a competitor of his, and his stuff works really well, too. But if you're tired of taking sawdust, I would suggest you get on the Chemical Free Body Express and check that out." So, Keith, that's right. That's what my conversations with Tim are about health, and recently he has been all over me about talking to you about silver. And before we do that, I just have to ask a question. You have a doctorate in natural pathic medicine, is that correct? [00:05:14:19 - 00:05:27:11] Speaker 1 Okay, so you know a little bit about my background. I have degrees in business management, finance, international business. I'm a certified natural health professional, and I have a doctorate in natural pathic medicine. [00:05:28:16 - 00:05:34:08] Speaker 1 That's my background. That's a pretty good background. I spent about the last 40 years playing with silver one way or another. [00:05:35:09 - 00:05:46:09] Speaker 2 Well, that's a background that's good enough for my follow-up question, which is, have you ever in your life seen a society as sick as what we have right now in America? [00:05:47:12 - 00:06:48:14] Speaker 1 What I'm seeing right now is I'm seeing a mass amount of data coming out on some really important issues. I mean, right now, if you look at silver and the amount of data that's coming out on nano silver right now and over the last two or four years, it is stunning. I mean, there was a group out of Romania that brought out a new study that covered five areas, and that is a summary of 432 peer-view published studies on nano silver, all of them on nano silver. And they summarized it all down for me into one study. And I thought, you know, if you guys were here, I'd just give you a big kiss because this is like Christmas. But it's stunning how much data is out. And there's probably no virus you could mention to me that I don't have hard data on from one of the major institutions. [00:06:49:15 - 00:07:03:11] Speaker 1 And it is just stunning how much data is coming out on almost any pathogen you could name. And these are huge things, right? And we'll get into a few of those, I'm sure, for the fun of it. [00:07:04:16 - 00:07:51:20] Speaker 2 Please. Yeah. I mean, it's a profoundly sick society out there. Everyone seems to be kind of run down, and it's the foods, of course, we know, and it's the medicines that people are injecting into themselves and the pharmaceuticals that the doctors are prescribing. And we've gotten on this treadmill of health where it's like, well, it's only, you know, if the doctor prescribes it to me, then I'm going to take it. And the idea of treating yourself through improved nutrition hasn't occurred to at least 90% of the population, which is sad. How did you even get into--and I've been hearing about silver for a while. I mean, I've been hearing about colloidal silver. I don't really know too much about it. But I'd been hearing about silver for a while. [00:07:53:09 - 00:08:18:04] Speaker 2 But I never really made it into the big time to me. I never really got talked about in a way that was taken up by the mainstream. And that, of course, makes me think that there's probably something good about it. So what is the deal with silver? Tell me a little bit more about it and why it's so important to us for improved health. [00:08:18:04 - 00:09:01:21] Speaker 1 Well, it's surely funny. But silver has been used for Google, like Googled it the other day, and asked them how long silver has been used. They said six millennia, 6,000 years they've been used in silver for antimicrobial. It said antimicrobial, antiviral, and wound healing effects. But if you look at it, for that six millennia, we've been used up for coins, clothes, building materials, wound care, as a disinfectant, medicine, eating utensils, plates, cups, food containers, jewelry. And after having advanced with all of our science and technology over the millennia, [00:09:03:02 - 00:09:30:16] Speaker 1 we currently use silver for all of the exact same things. I mean, we are so advanced, and most people don't know, but they use silver every single day of their lives. Silver is the number one conductor of electrical and thermal energy. So it's in almost every electrical connection, a silver or a silver amalgam, and almost every single thing that's electric that you own. [00:09:31:20 - 00:09:45:12] Speaker 1 If you're using a car that is electric, a lot of those battery components are made out of silver. If you have solar panels, welcome to the use of silver, right? [00:09:47:12 - 00:10:09:21] Speaker 1 What we do is we make silver into some things that are really stunning. And we've been one of the few companies that working with great people like Tim, we've been able to engineer products that can reach both from major pharma down into holistic accounts. [00:10:11:00 - 00:10:35:23] Speaker 1 And we're about the only one I know of who can penetrate both those areas, be a help without causing any damage in multiple areas. And once you learn how to use it, it becomes pretty stunning. But there's some things you have to know, first of all. There's a lot of different types of silver, and silver isn't just silver, right? [00:10:37:17 - 00:10:46:21] Speaker 1 Let me give you an example. So colloidal silver is usually a nionic form. What's called colloidal silver is usually a nionic form of silver. [00:10:47:21 - 00:10:59:00] Speaker 1 And silver ions have the ability to kill bacteria, but that's all. They're not anti-inflammatory. They can't kill a virus. They can't kill a fungus. [00:11:00:01 - 00:11:07:19] Speaker 1 And they will kill good bacteria starting at about 2.5 ppm. And I have all that data in peer-view published form. [00:11:08:21 - 00:11:46:17] Speaker 1 Nano silver, on the other hand, is a completely different animal. It comes from the same thing, silver, right? But nano silver is a larger particle. It's highly stable. It can remain stable for more than a decade. I have data on a nano silver in a PET food grade plastic for storage, right? I won't tell you how many cases I have in my storage because I know everyone's going to show up at my house together. But I have data where I left some on my office floor for 16 years. [00:11:47:17 - 00:12:57:08] Speaker 1 16 years, sitting by the window in a box, PET food grade plastic. At 16 years, I pulled it out, had it tested against both a bacteria and a fungus, a single cell fungus, right? So Candida albacans, which is a major problem bug, and E. coli. And it killed them at the same level that it did when I put it in there. 15, 16 years earlier. That's amazing. So the difference with nano silver, especially if you get a good quality one, is that they're highly stable. They stay stable. And another question that I get is, well, I heard that you have to have it in glass. Why do you have it in a food grade plastic? I said, well, food grade plastic actually doesn't leach anything out. It's not a soft plastic. It stays. It doesn't leach anything out. But the funny part is that somebody along the line who had their product in glass just made it up, pulled it out of their dairy air and said, glass is better, right? There was no science behind it. [00:12:58:09 - 00:13:41:14] Speaker 1 And 30 years ago, when we started looking at it, and we had our, you know, we had silver and glass because that's what they said. Then we started doing studies on it and a little science. And we found that glass actually has a negative charge. Oh. And silver has a positive charge. So glass, over a little time, will start to pull the silver out of solution. So if you're going to keep it for any length of time, you don't want it in glass because it yanks it out. The second thing is that the PET food grade plastic has a positive charge. [00:13:42:14 - 00:14:04:00] Speaker 1 And as the silver has a positive charge, they actually repel each other. That's why it can sit on the floor hot or cold. And we do something very different. We actually, the process that was developed by my family, my father, and some other guys, with us helping obviously, but we weren't a big help, but we were there in the process. [00:14:05:14 - 00:14:24:06] Speaker 1 But at that time, the process they developed, send my binds, the particles, to the wok so we can make products that nobody else can make because silver inherently is unstable. But this product that we make, you can boil it, you can freeze it, it stays suspended. [00:14:25:06 - 00:15:05:20] Speaker 1 So Tim and I have been working on the new toothpaste, which will be out pretty quick, and also a new mouthwash. And there's reasons why we have those prongs, right? But those are things that are on our docket that we've been developing, especially just with Tim. And so she'll have those out pretty quick. As soon as the labels and all the stuff can be made, all the engineering's done. And I'm excited about those because they'll love them. But the point is that this form of nanosilver is highly stable. You can boil it, you can freeze it, it stays suspended. [00:15:06:23 - 00:15:14:08] Speaker 1 And it's not in the glass, which you don't want to ask. Besides the fact that glass breaks, it's heavy and chipping at a problem, right? [00:15:15:09 - 00:15:43:08] Speaker 1 So for that reason, we put ours in the pea to food grade plastic. And it's not by accident. We tested it. We actually took it to the number one material science lab in the world at Penn State and had them test it to see what was in there. If there was anything leaching out of that plastic. And the answer was no. What they said was to parts per billion, there was nothing else in it except the nanosilver. [00:15:44:09 - 00:15:58:05] Speaker 1 Which is a great thing. What we want is we want pure product. We want it in the bottom. We want it highly stable. And we want it to always do what we wanted to do at the levels that we do it. [00:15:59:06 - 00:16:12:08] Speaker 1 And that's important. So we know that the product we create will do certain things. The other thing we did that was very different was we did a human ingestion study back with my family. [00:16:13:09 - 00:16:32:17] Speaker 1 And that one study cost about three hundred and fifty thousand bucks. And the part that hurts is it doesn't say it does anything. Just as what it doesn't do, right? Right. And but the important part of that study would was that it showed that if you drink this nanosilver, [00:16:33:20 - 00:16:40:08] Speaker 1 it will hit its height in your bloodstream two hours, wash out completely in 24 with no residual. [00:16:41:09 - 00:16:45:16] Speaker 1 So no matter how much you drink, it's impossible to build up. [00:16:45:16 - 00:16:54:00] Speaker 2 Now, is that that's a problem with the other silvers, right? Is that there's build up over time and that creates the issue? Correct. [00:16:54:00 - 00:17:28:08] Speaker 1 And you really have to even the other silvers, the cheaper versions, the ionics, the colloidal, you really have to abuse it to have a problem. I just finished publishing a paper with my people in the last three weeks. And I'm happy to send you a copy. But Tim just got it just came out. And it was on the safety of using silver products, all silver products. And I went through the different ones. But even with Ionic forms, the lowest level ever known to cause a problem for people, which is the gray color, argyria. [00:17:29:09 - 00:18:15:18] Speaker 1 And you would have to drink 80,000 teaspoons to hit the lowest level ever known to cause a problem. So until you get to about 80,000 teaspoons, even with the crapola versions, you still don't have a problem. But the difference with this one is we have proven peer-reviewed published studies, tier one med in PubMed, available in PubMed, showing that it has no negative effect on any system of the body, two, that it won't hurt red blood cells, but it goes into your red blood cells, and three, that it had no negative action with any of the P450 drugs. So if you have to take another product with it, you can. You don't have a problem. [00:18:15:18 - 00:18:25:07] Speaker 2 Okay. So we know what it doesn't do. It doesn't cause you issues. It doesn't interact with other drugs, and you can drink as much of it as you want. [00:18:26:07 - 00:18:27:04] Speaker 2 What does it do? [00:18:28:22 - 00:19:01:10] Speaker 1 Well, now we get into a lot more fun stuff. Okay. So I think what we do is we switch over for a moment, and we just talked about silver in nanosilver in general. Please. So we talked about nanosilver in general, then there's a lot more data we can discuss. Okay. At this point, this moment in time, we're not talking about any individual product. We're talking about nanosilver. Okay. Well, there's a peer-reviewed published study out, came out of three countries, [00:19:02:14 - 00:19:03:19] Speaker 1 nine institutions, [00:19:05:04 - 00:19:25:03] Speaker 1 11 different docs. So, you know, there's a statement that you always hear, and it's a little biblical, but it talks about the fact that in the mouths of two or three witnesses, truth is established, right? Right. So in this case, in August of 2021, [00:19:26:17 - 00:19:30:02] Speaker 1 there was eight different institutions, [00:19:31:03 - 00:20:07:18] Speaker 1 not 11 different doctors, three different countries put out a test. And this test was covering 231 frontline doctors. So these are guys that are in the hospitals treating COVID patients. So, and what it was, was a nine week study. So they split the 231 into 117 who did not use nanosilver products at all. Doctors in the hospitals treating patients, they didn't use it. 28% of them got COVID. [00:20:09:02 - 00:20:32:10] Speaker 1 The 114 that actually were the non-controlled group in this study, they were using it just as a nasal rinse and as a gargle every day. Just wash out your sinuses. It's not an FDA claim, right? Wash out your sinuses and keep it cleaned and gargle with it. Their chance of getting COVID was 1.8%. [00:20:33:13 - 00:20:54:08] Speaker 1 Whoa. So by using that as a nasal rinse and a gargle, they were 15 times less apt to get COVID than all the rest of the doctors working in the same hospitals. Wow. So was it perfect? No. Is it incredible? Oh, yeah. [00:20:55:12 - 00:21:02:02] Speaker 1 So if you're going to restaurants and you're going to all sorts of stuff and you just reach your sinuses out with it, gargle with it in the morning, [00:21:03:13 - 00:21:24:05] Speaker 1 you know that you have a much less chance of getting it. And you're not using it as a drug or treatment. It's just a nasal rinse. You're washing it out. Right. Okay. Now we'll get one that's a little more claimy, we'll say, but three major institutions. [00:21:25:06 - 00:21:26:11] Speaker 1 University of Florida, [00:21:27:19 - 00:21:28:22] Speaker 1 University of Alberta, [00:21:31:09 - 00:21:33:09] Speaker 1 actually University of Edmonton, sorry. [00:21:34:18 - 00:21:44:02] Speaker 1 And another one in the US. So three major institutions, eight doctors, two countries put out one in December of 22. [00:21:45:02 - 00:22:17:11] Speaker 1 And in that one, they were using it in a nebulizer, right? They're using a nebulizer for pneumonia in hospitals and saying they could have a dramatic difference nebulizing nanosilver in the hospitals. They did a whole bunch of studies and in that page six, it goes over the fact that regular colloidal silver is not antiviral. Nanosilver is. It talks about the fact that regular silver is not anti-inflammatory. [00:22:18:14 - 00:22:21:05] Speaker 1 Nanosilver is highly anti-inflammatory. [00:22:22:11 - 00:22:27:08] Speaker 1 And so it reduces the inflammation, which helps your body get over stuff way faster. [00:22:28:09 - 00:22:38:05] Speaker 1 But also in this, they had a number of cases where they were using that directly on COVID. And the data they released was that by using nebulizer, [00:22:39:10 - 00:23:22:11] Speaker 1 they could eliminate it from the bloodstream or from the body, sorry, from the lungs. They could eliminate it from the lungs in three and a half days. So if you got it, they could eliminate it in three and a half days nebulizing nanosilver. No ventilators, no nothing. No nuffins. No gurgle to you. And there's a lot. I mean, there's studies out right now that cover monkeypox. There's studies on Zika. There's studies on RSV. Okay. We're talking respiratory syndrome that kills all sorts of kids. Nanosilver has the ability to eliminate RSV. All these studies are available on polio, HIV. [00:23:23:17 - 00:23:32:09] Speaker 1 So there's a published study from 2009 that shows that H5N1 bird flu. [00:23:33:14 - 00:23:41:02] Speaker 1 And if you took the silver for eight days before you were infected with H5N1 bird flu, [00:23:42:05 - 00:23:50:13] Speaker 1 and you used it as a supplement, just oral ingestion for eight days, it showed that it raised the survival rate by 100%. [00:23:51:22 - 00:24:08:02] Speaker 1 All right. I'm starting to get your-- Drexel proved on as little as a 12% increase. This was 100% higher survivability, and they didn't nebulize it. It was just drinking it while the virus was put directly into their lungs. [00:24:09:08 - 00:24:17:20] Speaker 1 So even having it through separate systems, it helped immensely. So I'll hit you with another one. Same study. [00:24:18:21 - 00:24:23:15] Speaker 1 The editor's note on that study was actually an HIV study. [00:24:24:17 - 00:24:26:09] Speaker 1 Seven people full blown AIDS, [00:24:27:09 - 00:24:34:09] Speaker 1 right? Two ounces a day, nanosilver, DID, which means they split two ounces into three doses. [00:24:34:09 - 00:24:35:12] Speaker 2 Okay. [00:24:35:12 - 00:25:12:11] Speaker 1 Over every day, they took it every day for four months, right? And we're talking generally, we're not talking about any specific type, just peer-view published studies. In that study, what happened was they got their opt-tites back in two weeks, gained an average of 17.6 pounds. Wow. Okay. Their T lymphocyte count, which was a white cell, which is what is destroyed by the virus, rose over the four months, rebuilt their entire immune system, 39.54% increase in T lymphocyte count. [00:25:14:09 - 00:25:20:12] Speaker 1 Could these make a little difference in the world? Yeah. Is all this data readily available to anybody who wants it? [00:25:21:13 - 00:25:32:09] Speaker 1 Absolutely. If you can't find it, you text me and you say, "Gee, send me this data. I'll not be descended to you." We can request any data you want from me. [00:25:33:22 - 00:25:41:17] Speaker 2 When I hear about products like this that work very well and treat a variety of issues, [00:25:42:19 - 00:26:04:22] Speaker 2 I start to think of the guy that invented the car that runs on water. You know what I mean? Like the feds show up at his house the next week and he vanishes, right? What is going on? How can nano silver have these sorts of powers and be available with the pharmaceutical industry not knocking on your door saying, "Put this stuff away." [00:26:04:22 - 00:27:36:08] Speaker 1 You're infringing on our territory. Let's go back to the Romania study just for a second, right? The study of studies, the summary of 432 major studies, okay? Yeah. On nano silver, if you went through the antiviral action, just that one piece of it, and it covers five different areas, right? Biotissue engineering, which there's a huge amount of step cells that are protected in their incubation and use by nano silver. It takes out the inflammation, can protect those cells so that they can multiply once they're injected. That's just one form. Tissue grafts, all of that stuff, right? Right now in Canada, the gel that is actually a product we will talk about, and Canada, since you have people up there, right? Canada has already approved it for cuts, burns, wounds, as an antimicrobial, can make direct claims on killing MRSA and VRE, the nastiest of the hospital mutated bugs, and can make a direct claim on killing candida, the worst of the problems for vaginal problems, right? And mouth, you have a lot of issues with candida. That gel in Canada can make a direct claim on it right this minute. Also acne and eczema. [00:27:37:09 - 00:27:43:09] Speaker 1 So two huge issues, direct claims right now in Canada. In the US, [00:27:44:09 - 00:27:50:14] Speaker 1 we're after full FDA clearance, and we've met with the FDA, we've got down all the data, [00:27:51:15 - 00:28:14:17] Speaker 1 and we think that with any luck at all, and mercy maybe if they have it, we have provided all the data that they need to approve it here. And if we get that, we'll be able to use it on catheters. As a gel for catheters, it would make it easy to slide in, it would eliminate all the secondary UTI infections. [00:28:15:19 - 00:28:21:16] Speaker 1 We tested against all those bugs, and in that, it would also give us antimicrobial claims, [00:28:23:08 - 00:29:04:01] Speaker 1 yeast, fungus, all of those, black mold, stacky botchas type stuff, but also E. coli, candida, Aspergillus niger, the nastiest of the burn stuff. But we have published data showing we have one guy who had gas blow up in his face, right? Right. And they told him day one in the hospital, you have to come to the conclusion, you will never look the same. And this guy is actually in charge of big clinic. He's a nurse practitioner and he runs the Submergency Clinic. [00:29:05:06 - 00:29:10:05] Speaker 1 And so he told them in the hospital that he was going to use that 32 ppm gel. [00:29:11:21 - 00:29:20:18] Speaker 1 14 days later, it had helped him reroll all the tissue, not a mark on it. 14 days, two weeks. [00:29:22:03 - 00:30:41:16] Speaker 1 So right now in Canada, we have been doing tests with dentists. And in those tests, when they yank a tooth, they'll put the gel in, call your membranes, layer the gel, so the skin flap, no secondary infections, no dry socket, kill rates of half the normal time. We have been using it in bone grafts. We can heal a bone graft in Canada in five days. That product is also approved in Canada and it's actually a serum. But we're putting in with the bone parts and what takes 30 days to heal, we can actually heal in five days. Whoa. And so in Canada right now, we just summarized a paper. And right now we have done more than 55,000 dental procedures over a 16 year period. We had zero secondary infections, zero. Wow. And we had heal rates of half the normal time. In fact, almost all the people never filled their pain med prescriptions because they didn't need it. The anti-inflammatory effect was so strong that they didn't and don't fill their pain meds. [00:30:41:16 - 00:30:51:11] Speaker 2 That in and of itself in the United States with the addiction to pain medication, that right there is enough to make it worth the while. [00:30:52:11 - 00:30:54:01] Speaker 2 But let me ask you this. [00:30:57:00 - 00:31:12:10] Speaker 2 If you go to Chemical Free Body and you say, "There's something wrong with me and I need to fix it." What would electric silver, the solution, the drink, [00:31:13:11 - 00:31:23:07] Speaker 2 what would you be taking that for? What would you say, "I don't feel great. I need to go get this electric silver solution to treat my..." [00:31:23:07 - 00:31:46:12] Speaker 1 Well, right now you really don't have any idea what you have, right? Right. And so most of us are after some sort of broad spectrum solution. Let's say that I was starting to get the flu and I'm not making a claim on the flu. I'm just saying. In any one season, there are probably 250 different types of flu that hit, right? [00:31:47:17 - 00:31:53:17] Speaker 1 And the flu, just so you know, the shot covers you for about five. [00:31:55:01 - 00:32:09:08] Speaker 1 If they guess right, it might work. If they don't guess right, you're completely uncovered. But the point is that if I want to boost my immune system and it's easier to keep you healthy than to treat you once you get sick, right? [00:32:09:08 - 00:32:09:22] Speaker 2 Yeah. [00:32:09:22 - 00:32:28:16] Speaker 1 So I take what my grandma called a glug in the morning and a glug at night. So I brush my teeth at night and take them out before I swish around and then I swallow it. And I can't actually remember the last time I got sick, right? And I'm out and about a lot. I fly quite a bit. [00:32:30:09 - 00:32:49:11] Speaker 1 Immune support, I think, is the most important thing. If you have specific questions for my doctorate thesis, I actually wrote a book. And I think within two months, the advanced version will be out, the new updated version with a mass amount of new data. [00:32:50:13 - 00:33:01:19] Speaker 1 But originally when I wrote the book, I used it for my doctoral thesis and I made it into a book and I sold it to the public, tens of thousands of copies. [00:33:02:19 - 00:33:03:11] Speaker 1 And then I thought, [00:33:04:11 - 00:33:08:09] Speaker 2 Paid for your education, that's why, by selling the book that you wrote. [00:33:08:09 - 00:33:11:22] Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't need to make money on this book and I want people to have it. [00:33:12:23 - 00:33:55:22] Speaker 1 So I put it on a site called Silver Use Institute. You go to silveruseinstitute.com and the book's there and it's free. There's no cost. You can download it and read it and it's worth at least what you're paying for. So right there, the first third of the book will tell you answer about any question you could have on Silver. The second two thirds of the book will give you exact protocols that I freely admit I had the help of maybe two thousand docs that I was working with, helped me with the protocols. So if you had an eye problem, you'd look up the eye infection. If you had a yeast problem, you'd look up vaginal yeast or whatever. [00:33:57:00 - 00:34:07:13] Speaker 1 And it would be a summary of things that could generally be of assistance to you to help you eliminate the problem that you might have. [00:34:08:18 - 00:34:17:16] Speaker 1 So there was a massive amount of data in there. The updated version I helped out about in about two months. What was the website again? [00:34:19:06 - 00:34:20:05] Speaker 1 Say it again. Sorry. [00:34:21:07 - 00:34:56:03] Speaker 1 The you go to silveruseinstitute.com. The book is called Silver Nature's Natural Healer. It's free. Absolutely free. It has nothing of you. You just have to, I think, click on it. You might have to put in your email so it knows you're actually a human. Yeah. And then you can read anything you want. And I promise it's worth at least what you're paying for it. [00:34:56:03 - 00:34:56:08] Speaker 2 Yeah. [00:34:57:08 - 00:35:16:03] Speaker 1 I designed the book so that it would answer all your questions. You can look up heavy metals, right? It was really funny, but I had a guy come up to me once and say, I want to drink silver. And I said, why? He said, it's a heavy metal. I said, not heavy metal. He said, don't send heavy metal. I said, not a heavy metal. [00:35:17:04 - 00:36:08:07] Speaker 1 He said, it's heavy metal. I said, look, we can keep arguing, which would be useless, or we can go to a referee. He said, who do you suggest? I said, not who, but what? He said, okay, what do you suggest? I said, the Merck manual. I said, it's kind of the Bible of science and technology. It's the number one medicinal book on the planet. Thousands of pages. He said, I know the book I would accept. I said, okay, you lose. He said, what do you mean I lost? I said, if you go to page eight, 17th edition, page 1880, second paragraph, table 226-1, it will give you a list of all the heavy metals. I said, cobalt is there, chromium is there, iron is there, copper is there, gold is there. Silver is not there. It's not a heavy metal. [00:36:09:09 - 00:36:27:13] Speaker 1 He said, I'm not winning this. I said, no, you're not. I said, silver is a metal and it is heavy and it is very precious, but it's not a heavy metal as per nephrotoxicity. Now nephrotoxicity means heavy metal poisoning. [00:36:28:13 - 00:36:35:02] Speaker 1 And the difference is that silver is actually excreted through your liver, not through your kidneys. [00:36:36:09 - 00:36:43:02] Speaker 1 There's a whole bunch of data on that as well. So it's pulled out by your bile, goes through your liver and out. [00:36:46:00 - 00:36:58:07] Speaker 2 If you, if, well, would you, you've got, there's two types there at Chemical Free Body. There's the solution that you drink and then there's the gel, which is the oral or topical. [00:37:00:09 - 00:38:08:19] Speaker 1 What do you, what do you go with? Okay. So if it's internal, I'm using the liquid. Okay. If it's outside, if I have any problem, let's say that I just shaved my head. I woke up this morning and thought, you know, I'm going to shave my head today. I know the feeling. Okay. So if you shave your head, you have that razor burn. If you gel it up with that gel or use the gel as a saving, shaving solution, no razor burn. Interesting. None at all. It takes out all the inflammation, the redness. Let's say you woke up this morning and said, you know, I think I'm going to go have dermabrasion. I'm going to have peeling, waxing, whatever, any of the esthetician things. You put the gel on. God. The claim we make on that version at this moment in the U.S. is that it helps promote natural healing, which it does. And it does it exceedingly well. Now those, if we pull up this FDA clearance that we're after right now, those will change and we will make claims directly on almost any wound you could have on your entire body of any sort. [00:38:09:22 - 00:38:12:19] Speaker 1 Okay. And external, by the way, [00:38:14:09 - 00:38:47:08] Speaker 1 technically, if you use it intervasually, that would be external use. Okay. In your nose, if you happen to go to a restaurant, you decide, you know, I want a little protection. You could put some in your nose. It's a little gross. You rub it in. You have a layer of protection, right? If you put it on your face. So we did surgical hand scrub studies and we showed that if you put that gel on your skin, if you put it on your skin, it kept the skin fully protected for at least four hours. [00:38:48:10 - 00:39:05:02] Speaker 1 So if I'm going to the store, I gel up. If I'm going to the hospital to see somebody, I gel up. If I'm getting on a plane, I gel up. Yeah. And so there's a lot of people I know because it has no alcohol. [00:39:06:03 - 00:39:16:00] Speaker 1 There's no toxicity. If your kid ate the whole tube, it wouldn't wear them at all. But if you gel them up and send them to school, you can protect them for pretty much the whole day. [00:39:17:09 - 00:39:25:12] Speaker 1 And so you have a layer of protection on your skin. Not only that, the gel makes your skin intensely soft. [00:39:26:17 - 00:39:57:16] Speaker 1 So in Canada right now, I'm working with some guys. We're going to put down a label that will make direct claims on healing sunburns because we can do that in Canada. So for you guys to use the gel, direct things. So we can take somebody who's a lobster and in three days have a fully mitigated and make those claims for all your Canadian listeners. In the US, we'd say, hey, help promote natural healing. [00:39:59:07 - 00:40:23:00] Speaker 1 So you get a sunburn, you put it on, it helps naturally heal it. It cools, it soothes, it makes the skin intensely soft. So in about two minutes, it pulls in. It's not greasy. It has no negative effects. There's zero toxicity and it is stunning in its action. But you'll know when it's gone because the softness will be gone. [00:40:24:01 - 00:40:27:06] Speaker 2 Is this something that like the big boys are going to get into? [00:40:28:12 - 00:40:30:07] Speaker 2 You know, once you get FDA approval. [00:40:30:07 - 00:41:00:00] Speaker 1 You're making the conclusion that they're not. Oh, I don't think you could make that conclusion. There's a lot of big boy companies that are using nano silver for various reasons. There are probably more than a hundred FDA approved or cleared products that are made out of some sort of silver nano silver. More than a hundred. Did they know it works? [00:41:01:02 - 00:41:01:08] Speaker 1 For sure. [00:41:02:09 - 00:41:02:20] Speaker 1 Okay. [00:41:04:07 - 00:41:12:00] Speaker 1 I got data from the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease in 2003. [00:41:13:00 - 00:41:20:11] Speaker 1 It was test dated. They did on one of our products and it was on COVID on SARS, Corona one. Right. [00:41:21:13 - 00:41:37:15] Speaker 1 And we won't discuss what that is. But if you want it, I'll send you the data later. But the fact is, do they know? For sure. They know if they had it for a long time. Oh, yeah, they do. In 2005, [00:41:39:04 - 00:42:09:22] Speaker 1 my father and I got a call from the US Congress and they said, we want the data that you're producing in your humanitarian stuff in Africa. And we said, look, we can't give it to you. And because you're asking us to make claims here, we can't make you'll arrest us. And they said, we make those rules. We want the data. We want you to stand before the full congressional committee on malaria, TB and AIDS and give us all the data you have. [00:42:11:04 - 00:42:24:09] Speaker 1 And so I was there standing in 2005 with my father in front of the full congressional committee and he gave him data on AIDS, TB and malaria. [00:42:25:12 - 00:43:08:11] Speaker 1 And they published the data. It's public. It's available in the congressional record, hard data. And in that he showed him that they could eliminate a case of malaria for about a buck and all four types, including falciparum. And he gave them clinical trials, which they released there in the congressional record, which is why we're talking about them. But in those, the oldest was, I think, 92, youngest was a year old, no treatment failures, average full recovery, average full recovery using a 10 ppm liquid at an ounce a day was 3.43 days. [00:43:10:22 - 00:43:22:04] Speaker 2 So that's very effective. That's that that that makes me worry about your safety when you start showing that you can save people. [00:43:23:19 - 00:43:23:23] Speaker 1 2005. [00:43:23:23 - 00:43:28:20] Speaker 2 That's a long time ago. I think they probably would have gotten you by now, I guess that's been two decades. [00:43:28:20 - 00:43:33:16] Speaker 1 Just no, but they wanted to think they could take me any day. Right. [00:43:33:16 - 00:43:35:00] Speaker 2 You show them. [00:43:37:09 - 00:43:53:10] Speaker 2 Now, normal rational human beings would say, yes, give us that data, show the world how you can save a person for a dollar a day from all these amazing diseases. But I write books about how these lunatics operate inside of governments and we know that they think much differently. [00:43:54:12 - 00:44:15:23] Speaker 2 I would I would view them as seeing you as a threat to the pharmaceutical industry in this whole concept. What is the pharmaceutical industry seem to think about nano silver? Are they skeptical of it? Do they want to bury it? Are they do they want to partner with you? Like, what is their view on this whole thing? [00:44:15:23 - 00:44:51:19] Speaker 1 You know, we did a study long ago. And because we thought if they ever become a problem, we want to be a friend, right? We want to be a help to them. So we did a study with some partners out of India on using the nano silver with antibiotics to make the antibiotics more effective to keep their cash cows, cash cows. Right. Gotcha. As the resistance becomes available and those mutate around an antibiotic, how do you make the antibiotics stay effective? [00:44:52:21 - 00:46:34:17] Speaker 1 So what we did was we did a study using 19 different antibiotics with the nano silver and it was seven different pathogens, including three MDRs, three multidrug resistant bugs like an E. coli and MRSA. Right. And with those out of 96 different tests, tests mixing the different antibiotics, the silver, different bugs, out of 96, we made 94 more effective with either additive or synergistic effect. So using it with the antibiotic actually made the antibiotic more effective. So if the antibiotic you're using wasn't working and you added the silver to it, you could then make that antibiotic much more effective. And in the end, we could care less who gets the credit. If your kid is sick and he always and he gets better, do I care if it's a silver or the antibiotic that does it? I doubt it. I really couldn't care less. The fact is that our goal here is to help people. And we do that a lot. And if you if you want to know about silver, if you Google it, the first thing that comes up nano silver, first thing that comes up says, yeah, it's been used for millennia. It's antibacterial, antiviral, anti-inflammatory. That is generally known data. It's not really a claim. And so if somebody killed me off, would that stop it? It wouldn't. There's thousands, literally right now. If you look at the one study, [00:46:36:09 - 00:47:00:23] Speaker 1 there are probably 2000 doctors that had published studies that were mentioned in that one summary study, 432 studies, at least two to 3000 PhDs. So I'll say, hey, this works for this. Biotissue engineering, antimicrobial effect, wound healing, antiviral effect. [00:47:01:23 - 00:47:04:09] Speaker 1 All this data is already out there. [00:47:04:09 - 00:47:09:12] Speaker 2 So it's out there with the general public doesn't know about it. Does it suffer from a PR problem? [00:47:09:12 - 00:47:30:08] Speaker 1 Exactly. So the only real danger that I pose to anybody is that I have it all in my fat little hat. And I can answer questions and give it out to people. But anybody who wants data, you can find more than you want to read in two minutes. [00:47:31:15 - 00:47:40:22] Speaker 1 And it's easy to find it. There's a massive amount of data. If I was gone, would it stop? It won't. It wouldn't. I wouldn't make any difference. [00:47:42:09 - 00:47:48:21] Speaker 2 I understand now why Tim is working with you specifically. [00:47:50:16 - 00:48:35:09] Speaker 2 Tim asked me one time about who does the merchandise from my show. And I told him, and he said, do they have an organic cotton t-shirt option? And I said, I don't know. Maybe. He goes, because it's got to be. I love Tim for the exact same reasons. You can't have any chemicals in it at all, you understand. And I was like, well, I don't know if my merch company is the right one to talk to. But Tim, I was like, you know, I love you. You're chemical-free down to the t-shirts you want to sell, too. You know what I mean? Like that attention to detail. Oh, for sure. It makes me think that when he's like, you got to talk to Dr. Keith about the silver, [00:48:37:09 - 00:49:08:08] Speaker 2 I sort of knew inherently that this was why. Was that there was going to be some revelation here where I just went, oh, why doesn't everybody know about this? And that's kind of where I am at this point, which is, this sounds like magic. And it's cheap, too. Essential. I mean, relatively speaking, electric silver solution on chemical-free body, the drinkable kind is $48. [00:49:09:09 - 00:49:10:17] Speaker 2 The electric silver [00:49:10:17 - 00:49:13:10] Speaker 1 gel- And that's 60 amounts. That's way cheaper than most. [00:49:13:10 - 00:49:18:12] Speaker 2 Is $38. And there's a bundle package for 77 bucks. [00:49:19:19 - 00:49:40:00] Speaker 2 All right. So all in, less than $100, both different types. And then, you know, you can save with your discount code macro. But I'm just saying that this is, this seems like low-hanging fruit, right, for the average person. Like, this sounds like something you should have in your medicine cabinet. [00:49:40:00 - 00:49:44:06] Speaker 1 What it is, what we like to say is it's a first line defense. [00:49:45:09 - 00:50:13:12] Speaker 1 A first line defense. And is it infallible? Now, I mean, if you look at the nano silver study we talked about in the hospitals and doctors, 1.8% got it, right? It wasn't infallible, but it was stunningly good, right? 15 times less chance of getting it than the other docs. So is it amazing? Yes. Do you have to learn how to use it? For sure. The more data you have, the better. [00:50:14:15 - 00:50:28:08] Speaker 1 And we work hard at producing that data and giving it to people. And when we do it, it's not just me saying, "Hey," you know. What happens is if you said, "I want that data for using it as a nasal rinse," [00:50:29:09 - 00:50:46:04] Speaker 1 I sent you the peer-reviewed published study from, you know, eight different scientists. You don't, it's not me. It's hard data science peer-reviewed published, six major institutions in two countries. I mean, who's going to argue with that, right? [00:50:47:10 - 00:50:50:04] Speaker 1 And if you wanted the other data from the docs, [00:50:51:19 - 00:51:26:08] Speaker 1 yeah. There's a ton of information, and it's all from major institutions. The data, I've done a bunch of studies that I've published with different partners, but we've done four different studies, one on mouth problems, and with toothpaste and using nanosilvern toothpaste with Texas Tech School of Met. We published studies on wound care with Texas Tech School of Met. We did a direct comparison using the gel as an anti, as a cleaning agent for the skin. [00:51:27:09 - 00:51:38:10] Speaker 1 And direct comparison to betadine, the orange stuff they slathered you with, right? Yeah. So if there were questions of that, these are all peer-reviewed published studies available to the population. [00:51:39:13 - 00:51:49:16] Speaker 1 And by the way, in that study, we were 10 times more effective with the gel than betadine, cleaning the skin and prepping it for any problems. [00:51:50:22 - 00:52:23:08] Speaker 1 So, I mean, this is all hard data, and it's available from major groups. There were five different divisions of Texas Tech School of Met that wrote that paper with us. And somebody said to me, they said, "Why in the world would you work with Texas Tech School of Met?" I said, "Dude, wrong question." And he said, "What's the right question?" I said, "The right question is why in the world would five major divisions of a huge hospital university and medical university work with me?" [00:52:24:09 - 00:52:32:12] Speaker 1 That's the question. And he says, "What's the answer?" And I said, "We have stuff that works." Yeah. "People like to write about stuff that works." [00:52:33:23 - 00:52:40:02] Speaker 1 Yeah. And I said, "The data's there. If you kill me tomorrow, the data's still all there." Right? It's public. [00:52:41:23 - 00:52:53:07] Speaker 2 Well, I'm always interested in a life hack. You know, I'm always interested in something that's going to make sense. It's going to help me. [00:52:56:03 - 00:53:56:21] Speaker 2 So I'm going to get some. Like I said, I buy my stuff the way my audience buys it, the way everyone... I just go on Chemical Free Body and I'm going to get some. I'm going to get some for my mom, too. I'm going to send some to her. So because it just seems like one of those things that you should probably... If there were a theme to this show, it would be me preaching about being proactive as opposed to being reactive. This seems like a pretty proactive thing to have, something that if you know it's there, and now if you're listening to this, you now know it's out there. You know Nano Silver exists. It's a thing in your brain. So now if you know it's out there and you're not at least looking into it, you have to ask yourself, like, are you doing everything that you could be to make yourself feel better? I'll tell you, it's just nothing worse than feeling shitty. You know, just sitting... [00:53:56:21 - 00:54:29:18] Speaker 1 Well, actually, there is something worse than feeling crappy, and that's having a kid or grandkid feel crappy and not being able to do anything about it. Yeah. That's what keeps me going. That's what makes it so that I get excited about all the stuff we're doing and the new... If you saw what we're currently doing, I'll give you a hint. Okay? We finished the study a few months ago, where we were working on the number one problem with chickens, which is like the number one meat source on the planet. [00:54:31:03 - 00:54:56:10] Speaker 1 And chickens get a bug called Clostridium perfringis, which is a problem that gives them necrotic enteritis, which in English means they get lesions inside their gut that keep them from being able to gain weight. Right? Okay. And in this study, we put the silver at certain levels, which we want to hold, at this moment in the water. [00:54:57:19 - 00:55:03:08] Speaker 1 And then they were testing whether the animals would or could get sick. [00:55:04:09 - 00:55:13:21] Speaker 1 And the answer was we found that if we put certain levels of the silver in their drinking water, they weren't pervious to the infection. They couldn't get sick. [00:55:15:12 - 00:55:19:09] Speaker 1 Even though they got it directly, they ate it directly, [00:55:20:09 - 00:55:24:20] Speaker 1 they didn't get it. They weren't pervious to the infection. [00:55:26:05 - 00:55:31:08] Speaker 1 And so we're after that in a big way. I have two more studies underway right now that cost a lot of money. [00:55:32:09 - 00:55:58:08] Speaker 1 But, you know, saving the food chain would be a big deal, especially for, you know, we're working with the Amish right now and they don't, they have all their own stuff. Right? We've got a rabbit study with them and we put it in food and that one, we could keep all the rabbits alive. They were losing like 25% when the rabbits were weaned and they ended up losing none. [00:55:59:09 - 00:56:09:18] Speaker 1 So we did a study with their horses and I have a group that I work with that nebulizes about 100 race horses every single day. [00:56:11:01 - 00:56:40:03] Speaker 1 And when they do that, they don't get the exercise induced infections in their lungs and they just happen to run faster. So they tell me these horses, it's not a steroid. It doesn't enhance their abilities, but it makes it so they can run at their highest level, their own personal level. And so they actually finished like 70% in the money. My general feelings are that Gabby knows for people who are bad at math. [00:56:41:06 - 00:56:53:20] Speaker 1 But the answer is that if you could, if you could help 70% of them to run at their highest level and win, that's a huge thing. Not only for the health of the horse, but all the people. [00:56:53:20 - 00:57:02:08] Speaker 2 Keith, does this nano silver have massive opportunities then with just traditional pets? [00:57:03:12 - 00:57:04:00] Speaker 2 For sure. [00:57:04:00 - 00:57:06:19] Speaker 1 I have data showing we have no toxicity. [00:57:08:06 - 00:57:13:08] Speaker 1 So we, I was just doing work with Tim on Parva. [00:57:14:09 - 00:57:38:03] Speaker 1 So he used it with something else, some combined efforts, but one of his buddies had a puppy, cute puppy. And it was a pretty good sized dog, but it was a puppy. They got Parva and it used the nano silver with thick added in it. It's gullet and used it with something else. And I think it was over it in a day. Wow. [00:57:39:10 - 00:58:05:08] Speaker 1 So dogs, eye infections, ear infections. We have a lot of data we produce with animals. And like I said, the chicken study that we're after right now, it has direct application to humans and everybody else as well. But the fact is that what we think we can do is a mass amount of good for humanity. Yeah. And, and all of this data helps. [00:58:06:09 - 00:58:12:03] Speaker 2 We're going to need those chickens at the rate they're killing them off. And these fires. [00:58:12:03 - 00:58:22:16] Speaker 1 Each five men want bird flu. They just kill down how many hundreds of millions. Yeah. The answer is, do we have data on that? Oh yeah, we do. [00:58:24:13 - 00:58:28:08] Speaker 1 It's previously been published by the USNIH on bird flu. [00:58:28:08 - 00:58:38:21] Speaker 2 If people want to reach out to you or find you or take a look at your work, what's the best place for me to send them? [00:58:40:03 - 00:58:46:17] Speaker 1 Do my website. All they have to do is, is not my website, just my email. Okay. [00:58:47:18 - 00:59:42:16] Speaker 1 I did one with Celeste and I had probably 50 people to answer, ask me questions. I just answered them. And the FDA has a rule. And if you go to FDA.gov slash media slash eight to six is so slash download. And yes, I know the rules. It says that if you ask me any question on an individual basis, I have the right to answer that question. And you have right to the date as long as it's third party independent data. And I send it to you in whole form. So anybody who wants any data that I have, which is currently I have maybe 500 major studies and test series. And if I don't know, I just say, don't know, doesn't happen very often. But hey, if I don't know, I won't make it up. But if I do know, I'll answer the question. I'll send you the report that goes with that. [00:59:44:09 - 01:00:00:02] Speaker 2 This is why Tim wanted us to connect because I knew that he knew that that that I was going to geek out about this nanosilver and that the audience was probably going to be like, damn, I gotta go get this stuff now. [01:00:01:09 - 01:00:08:10] Speaker 2 Because we're always sort of looking a little bit further out. You know, let's be proactive. [01:00:08:10 - 01:00:46:12] Speaker 1 Let's let's not think that this this load of viruses we've been fed over the last decade is going to stop. There is none of us that thinks this whole line. I mean, if you look, they've been one after another after another and they've been getting worse as they go. So do we believe that's going to stop? We do not. Is it good to have first line defense? For sure. And do you want it in your house at this moment? Oh, yeah. You don't want to have to go get it. You want it now. You just want it available so that you can, you know, boost your immune system. [01:00:49:08 - 01:01:08:07] Speaker 2 That's Dr. Keith Muller. You can go to chemical free body dot com and find his electric silver solution and electric silver gel available over there or as a bundle. I didn't mean I'm not trying to turn this into an infomercial for chemical free body, but. [01:01:09:13 - 01:01:27:17] Speaker 2 But when Tim tells me that I got to talk to the doctor, I got to talk to the doctor. So that's Dr. Keith, everybody. And if you liked this episode, you can take the additional step right now of sharing it with your friends and family. If you want to connect with me, the website, macroaggressions.io is the best place to do that. Thanks, everybody. I'll talk to you again soon.