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00:00:00 Speaker: Welcome to Macroaggressions. I'm your host, Charlie Robinson. If you are watching us on Rumble band dot video vigilante TV now back on YouTube or you're listening wherever podcasts are served. Thanks a million. We appreciate your amazing and continued support over the years. You can connect with me. Macroaggressions dot io is the website. Hopefully you're getting your news at activist post dot com. I don't know why you wouldn't be. Uh, well, let's see our sponsors help to keep this show going. Hopefully we won't have World War three, but if you need storable food, I got a place for you to go. Augustan farms. You can check it out. They have the most insane selection of storable foods I have ever seen in my entire life. Sure, you can get the emergency buckets that last you a couple months and they've got those and you may want to take advantage of that. 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But that's not what I want to talk to you about. What I want to talk to you about is the water hero, because I actually have one. Oh, I have one. Yes I do. Uh, for those of you just listening, it's a device. It's about six inches long. It, uh, it's turquoise in color and it's copper on the inside. And it's not an actual filter. It has crystals. And on the inside of this copper, I don't know, it looks like a valve. And you run the water through the top. It comes out of the bottom, but not slowly like a filter does. It comes out immediately. It just goes right through, in and out and out the back end. Tim James took one of these with him to Mexico. The last two years. He turned Mexican tap water into the water used to make big batches of green eighty five that he handed out at the conference every day for five days. I must have had ten glasses of that. So if it can turn Mexican tap water into drinkable water, just think what it will do with American tap water. So if you're interested, chemical free body dot com forward slash macro, go take a look at the water heroes. Just read up about it and see what it's structured water. It takes your water from H two O to H three O two and structures it for you. So I've been obsessed with this device since I got it a couple days ago. I've swapped out the water. Uh, all my cat water dishes now. Have it. Everything in my coffee maker is using it, so if you're interested. Chemical free body dot com, forward slash macro. Check out the water heroes. All right, well, now that we got the business out of the way, let's get down to the fun. Please welcome to the show, our good friend, the host of the third rail, the Nature Boy, Dave Alcott. What's up? Dave? Good to see you. How are you? What's happening? Charlie? I'm doing. How could I not be doing good? Hanging out with you, man. I mean, we just had way too much fun in Mexico for for our own good. It's good. It's always good to see you down there. But let's start with this. I, I have been evangelical about an Acapulco for a while. I don't get by the way. I don't get paid to do it. It's I and I don't get paid to be the MC. I do it, it's this is all volunteer work. I just I feel so strongly about it that I tell people, man, I think you'd like it. I think if you came down, you'd like the people there. I think you'd like the vibe. You're definitely talking about things that are interesting. And I worked on you for a while, and I and. And one day I think you just finally gave up and caved in and went down there. So can we talk a little bit about me? We strong arming you with love, of course, into going to an Acapulco and what that was like for you. Well, you were you were strong arming me before you even knew you were strong. Arming me, man, because I was listening to your show, I think it was in oh three. And I don't know if it had you on at that point yet. And you were talking about this in Acapulco thing. And I love how you said there's not going to be a Molotov cocktail throwing contest there or anything like that. And something stuck in my head and I couldn't get out, couldn't get it out of my head. It was there. I tried to get rid of it and know it'd come back. So I tried to make it in two thousand and three, but just logistically I was unable to. So my whole plan is come hell or high Water two thousand and four. I'm twenty twenty four. Excuse me. Twenty four. I do misspeak sometimes, so if I do, please correct me. Um, and I did as soon as the tickets went on sale, I bought them. I think it was even before they put your, uh, your product code in there, your macro code into it. And I went there with absolutely no expectations. Zero, none. I was going to be a clean slate, I guess, if you will. So here I come to this annakw foco. And the only person I knew and not in person was you. Excuse me. Um, I. Didn't know anybody, so I remember the first night that I walked in. This was back when it was at the Secret Garden. And it's still the secret garden still has a special place in my heart. Oh yeah, for sure. Do love Acapulco. And the only thing I didn't like were the mosquito bites. But it turned out that you and I got those in Puerto Vallarta just as badly as we did in Acapulco. So it didn't matter in the end. No. We had what I call scurvy legs, man. Looks like we got scurvy from our knees on down. Yeah, we we must taste delicious. We must. I looked at other people like Nadir, and he didn't have any bites on him. Well, he must taste awful. That's that's his. That's his problem. We're out there feet keeping the mosquito population alive in Mexico. You and me, with our wonkiness. Yeah. Our gringo blood. Yeah. Contributed to the local population. Yeah. All right, so I cut you off. Sorry. You're back, twenty, twenty four. The first night it was, um. It was magical from the first time I walked in there until I left. Here's what I mean. I'm pretty much an introvert. In other words, when I get into crowds, I know it sounds funny having a podcast. I tend to feel isolated and alone. I'm usually the guy that goes out to a club, and while the band's playing, everybody's partying and dancing. I'm out on the patio having a conversation with somebody, right? Right. So that's kind of how I am. And I remember I walked in and was like, I'm going to get me a margarita and some tacos. And I sat down next to a perfect stranger, said, hi, I'm Dave. He said, hi, I'm so and so. This is my wife, so and so. And we had a fantastic conversation and I walked away with it with a friend. I'm like, wow, that's that's pretty cool. Hope this happens again. It happened over and over and over for the next four days to the point on Thursday, I had to literally go into my little introverted cocoon and just go walk around and have a little bit of Dave time. I was meeting so many people, hearing fantastic stories, meeting people from all over the world. And there was this, this common thread or vibe between everybody. And it took me after I got back, it took me a good six weeks just to decompress everything that I experienced. And I can say, honestly, it changed my life. It changed. Oh yeah. Me at the core, it changed how I viewed the world. And I, from that time on, I was hooked. It's like a crackhead taking his first hit of crack and getting his bell rung. Man. Yeah, it's a nice it's a nice group of people, you know, it's nice. It's it's the reason why it's so like addictive is that you just don't get the opportunities to be around that many like minded people for long stretches of time. And it's you start to even if you're kind of an introvert, and I always say that when I'm, you know, doing my, my stuff on stage, like, hey, you know, like if you're an introvert, like I give you permission to come out of your shell and talk to people this week because you're going to find that everyone will talk to you. And they're all probably, you know, a lot of them are introverted too, but, but you find that this is the one place that they allow themselves to, um, you know, to kind of come out of, come out, uh, put their guard down for a little bit, talk to people, you know, I don't normally do that either. If I go to a party, I'm not like, hey, you know, schmoozing with everybody. I only do that there because I'm like, kind of, it's kind of my job. I'm kind of like, but, but I also now at this point, I recognize half the people there, you know, so, so I've either they've been there over the last couple years or I don't know, it just it, it, it feels the reason why I understand when you say it's like taking a hit of crack and like you're addicted to it because it's like a warm hug. You know, everybody there is, is, is on your wavelength. And so many people are coming from places where their family isn't there. Certainly their government isn't, you know, the, the countries in which they live, their governments, uh, treat them poorly. And so it's nice to just have a little break from that. And so, so twenty twenty four was your first year you came down, we had, we had a great time, go to Max's bar at night and do all that stuff. And the reason why you and I were chatting about this a couple weeks ago and I said, uh, you know, when you and I kind of decided when I do my wrap up, which I normally do as a monologue episode, it's probably better just you and I do it together. Since you were managing the panel stage and I was, uh, emceeing the, the main stage, we were sort of going back and forth the whole time, during the event. So let's talk about this current one. What was your impression of it? Moving to Puerto Vallarta as opposed to Acapulco? Being saying that, you know, we already recognized that secret garden in Acapulco have a special place. But in terms of like ease of getting well, I was going to say ease of getting in and out of, uh, maybe you didn't get out of Puerto Vallarta quite as easily as everybody else did. But theoretically, what were your what was your feeling on Puerto Vallarta over compared to Acapulco? I think it's a better venue overall from a production standpoint. I mean, completely top notch as opposed to Acapulco, where everything was outside. No air conditioning, mosquitoes eating your feet and everything like that. Not to say it was bad, it just had its limitations. Yeah. Here at Puerto Vallarta, it was much more accessible for the public as far as the venue goes, especially if there's a lot of first timers, which blew my mind when Kat did that little poll. Like sixty percent probably, huh? Yeah, I looked out to the audience when she did that, and it was I was just blown away at the amount of hands that were up there. Which tells me from a producer's standpoint, this is a much better venue to have it at. It is easier to get in out of. Um, getting out was a little tricky, but not because of Puerto Vallarta. It's just because a couple governing bodies at the time were having a public conversation. We'll get to that. We'll get we'll definitely get to that. Um, bad choices make good stories, Charlie. Bad choices make good stories. Overall, I think it was a much better venue. Kind of. What I would also like to see is a venue of that production quality. When we can put in a professional stage and have everything, but at like renting a resort, because the one thing that I missed right was having maks's baths. That one place that everybody could just go and meet afterwards. Yeah. 

You know, this year it was at El Gusto, which was a rock and bar, but it was a fifteen minute drive. Yeah. There just wasn't the magic there. Yeah. But as far as what it was in Puerto Vallarta. Yeah. I think it's the place to be as opposed to Acapulco. So that's, that's kind of how it was the first two years that I was there, twenty nineteen and twenty twenty. It was at a big resort that had the class A production, you know, convention center component, but also had a hotel where people were all staying at the hotel. So if you needed to charge your phone, you could run up to your room and grab your phone charger and come back down. And you could just, it was just easier pools were there, uh, restaurants, coffee, gym, beach, all that stuff. It was a, it was a more conventional sort of venue. Twenty nineteen and twenty twenty. Then when they went to the Secret Garden for the last couple of years, it's been more. It's a less. It's it's it's a tough venue for conventions, but it actually kind of worked for an Acapulco, whereas it wouldn't have worked for any other convention, I don't think secret garden, you couldn't have an IBM convention at Secret Garden. They just would go, there's no way this is going to work. But it's strangely kind of worked for for an archipelago. And I think that moving forward, I mean, we had the entire Puerto Vallarta Convention Center to ourselves, which is a class A facility. It was it's amazing. And we had that whole play. We weren't sharing it with any other any other shows or anything like that. So we were just we had the run of the place. Um, so let's, we'll, we got to start with our first night, right? So we, we, we both come in Saturday, uh, main day start, you know, opening ceremony starts Sunday night, event starts Monday. But we come in Saturday, we have production meetings and things like that. But you and I decide we're going to go out to that gusto bar, which is kind of like been designated as the as the spot where everyone's going to meet up. Part of the reasons the producers friend owns it. She went to high school with him and he's like, hey, I got a bar here. If you need anything to be delivered, like books, be, you know, being present. It gave us a place where where we could send things. So let's go to that bar Saturday night, shall we, Dave? So we, we, we show up down at the bar. We, we get in, we start having a couple drinks. Uh, maybe you want to take it from there. My two favorite phrases that I got from Miranda, the stage manager down there, bad choices make good stories. Yes. And the other one is the outcome is none of your business. And I think both of those fit what happened Saturday night. So my friend Jordo, who I saw as soon as I landed. I was up on the top of the container and he was just walking along the street. Hey, Dave. Okay. He's Billy goat, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone knows Billy Goat man. So he was like, um. Hey, man, you guys want to go smoke a joint?

 Well, you know, I had a few drinks in me, and I'm like, sure. So we go out in front of the club, all of us. You're standing by the door. You're the only smart, strategically placed gringo in the whole bunch. And I remember, you know, Jordan fires it up and takes few hits off it and no sooner does lights it up in this little cute local girl pops up and it's like, hey, hey, can I get some? And of course, what's Jordo going to do? He's going to go, oh, I knew you, I saw you, we you, we smoked like an hour ago. And that immediately got on my radar. As soon as she hit that joint and handed it back to him, she, she looked really sketchy. And she started to like, like, like she was gonna walk off. And I was like, what? I'm like, this chick's no good. And so I immediately start to, like, kind of look around to see what's coming. Here come the cops. Yeah. And they pulled up. They coasted up behind Jordan. And I didn't know I wasn't paying attention to her. I was kind of like, lost in my own world. I didn't even know that. You bailed up the stairs and they coasted up behind old Jordan, and he didn't even know they were there. Charlie. I had to tap on their motorcycles or their motorcycles turned off. Off? It's like riding up on it with them off. That's the thing is, I kind of had like out of the corner of my eye. I was looking at her and she walked and I was like, this chick's no good. And then I looked to the right and I saw they come up and I was like, come on, we gotta go. And like, I went straight up the back that staircase and, and, uh, and it was too late. You guys got nabbed by them. So I went up into the balcony where I could now look down onto the sidewalk and see what was going on. I didn't want to make sure you guys were not, not going to get, um, you know, really taken away. And what did I see? I saw you guys both had your hands behind your back. I was like, oh, shit, they've got them in handcuffs already. It's like, this is crazy. So I watch for about a minute and then I see you guys finally moving a little bit, and I realized, oh, you just had your hands behind your back. You didn't actually have them in handcuffs. I was like, okay, this is not as bad. And then I see the wallets come out and I was like, oh, this is a good sign. This means there is a there is a path towards freedom. And it comes through seventeen hundred pesos, two thousand pesos. What's the price? For me, it was fifteen hundred fifteen hundred pesos. At the time I was a double dumbass. Okay, first dumbass for smoking a joint out on the street. Second dumbass for keeping all my pesos on my money clip. See, I later found out you only keep two hundred on your money clip, so if you get shook down, that's all you have. As soon as the cop takes it, he is cope. He is culpable, I think. I don't know if that's the correct word. So yeah, so I knew that this was going to be a negotiation deal when his buddy walks up and he said, we only have one option. And he pointed at Jordo three thousand pesos for you. He pointed at the other guy, three thousand pesos for you. And then he pointed toward me and went, and three thousand pesos for you. Then he said in Spanish, you can pay us now or you can pay us at the jail. So at that point, and I know enough Spanish, I figured out his mean at that point, I'm like, my, my sphincter lightened up and I'm like, oh, good. I don't have to worry about spending the night in a Mexican jail the first night I get here because I have to work, right? Amongst other things, I won't get into thoughts that went through my head. So I knew right off the bat he got, you know, got one hundred Canadian from the other gringo. He looked at me, I pulled it out and I knew. I know the deal. You just got to doing business. Put it under your ID and hand it to the cop. So I did, and then he looked around for a second. Make sure nobody's looking. They took it, put it by his chest, counted the money, put it in his pocket and handed me my ID. And as soon as he gave me the ID, the only thing I said to the cop the whole time, Charlie. We asked me where I was from. I said, United States, California. And then the only other thing I said to him was, can I go? And he says, you can leave. And at that point, I walked up the stairs to the bar. Defiance. The guy's like, yeah, I fought the law and whooped their ass. Only cost me one thousand five hundred pesos. But hey. Well, to be fair, Dave, we have stood out in the streets of Mexico and smoke joints before and nobody has ever hassled us. So it turns out that you don't want to do it in Puerto Vallarta because especially anywhere near kind of spring break time, because the cops are especially looking for that. Like there's not a whole lot they can get you on. But that's the one thing. So it turns out we would have been better to just go up in the balcony and smoke it, which would have been fine. But, uh, anyway, that was that was how we started it off. That's it's not how you start. It's how you finish. But but, um, we, uh, we had a, I mean, a fantastic week. I gotta, I gotta, one of the things that that wound up happening during this, um, um, this week was that they kept, you know, you and I are well taken care of at these events, you know, whatever we want, you know, we sort of have access to. So I would be in the middle of like the day, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, whatever day it was. And it just seemed that halfway through, at some point, somebody from the production team would grab me and say, are you available to go to the VIP dinner tonight? And I would say, sure. And, uh, and then. All right. Six forty five. As soon as you jump off the stage, jam out there. Get in the shuttle and go. And you'll be there all night at this place. So I kept getting into those. Those things I kept going to. And the dinners were like. Sometimes they were at the um. Right out in front of the convention center. Like they set them up out there, which was really nice because the weather's great and they just had live music playing. And so those were great. But, but on the Wednesday night, I got to go to the Tesla party. Did you ever do the Tesla machine? I did last year, but I didn't have a chance to do it this year. Yeah. Wild wild thing, man. For those that that don't know, Tesla Club is where you can go to the website and find out more about it. It, it looks like it shouldn't work. Like it looks preposterous. I will, I will grant everybody that because it's like these oversized light bulbs and you're putting it's plasma technology and you're rubbing it on your body. But the, the the founder of the company grabbed me on Monday and he said, can you come to the party on Wednesday night at at the, at our house that we rented. I was like, I'd love to. AM I invited? He's like, yeah, absolutely. Come, come on. I was like, okay, so dude, that was the, the Wednesday night. And you know, I'm trying to pace myself. I'm like, I can't hang, you know, I'm drinking every night. I don't drink a ton, but I'm drinking a couple beers. I'm smoking pot the entire time and all every night. And so I, you know, there's only so much I can handle. So this Wednesday I go to the this, this VIP party at the, the Tesla club. And I go, where are we going? And they said, oh, this, they've got like a mansion on the beach and. Oh, okay. Cool. And, but you can't drive your car, you can't take an Uber. You have to go in these vans because it's super private and they don't want a million cars showing up. They just have a couple vans will drop you off. So I get there at like seven o'clock at night. I don't leave until two o'clock in the morning. Just to give you an idea how long and it starts off as like this dinner. It's like a nice dinner. They're out in the on the backyard and these guys are like cooking up. They've got like a taco bar and these guys are whipping up all kinds of making guacamole there. And there's a full bar and it's, it's a VIP thing between like Vigilante Insiders Club, which is the vigilantes like premium members and the Tesla club. So you have to have a Tesla machine, you have to have bought one of the machines and be a member of their club, and then you can go to this party. Well, I'm neither I'm not an owner of the club and I'm not in the Vigilante Insiders club, but I'm just I'm. I guess you're Charlie, I guess. Yeah. I'm friend of the show. Right. So. So I come in and and it's great. And I'm just chit chatting up all the people that are there, all the Insider Club people, they're really nice, just a nice bunch of people and just kind of go from table to table and, and, and, but then there was a moment where they're like, all right, last shuttle leaving at eleven o'clock. And I was like, I need to be on that shuttle. And I grabbed my bag and I'm just about to go. And I was like, it's eleven o'clock. It's like I'm in Mexico. I can't go to bed. I know I have to get up super early and do a million things and be at the venue and go have breakfast with Mike Cobb at the Marriott and at the crack of dawn and all this stuff. But I'm like, fuck, if I don't stay, I'll regret it. So I go, you know what? I'll. I don't know how I'll get back. I'll catch another shuttle. I don't have a car and I don't think there's another shuttle. But fuck it, I'm just going to stay. I'm glad I did, because what that turned into was a conversation that was. That was wild, man. It turned from like about midnight until two in the morning. We were outside or in these on these couches around the table talking about like the, the very real problems that we're facing as a society and trying to plot and figure out like, how do we navigate this? How do we position ourselves? How do we position other people, people that listen to our shows into not getting decimated by what's coming, you know? And so and this was the group. So imagine this, this group, it was it was the upper management of dollar vigilante. So it's Jeff Berwick, the owner, Chris Hallager, the CFO, and his wife, Raphael Loverde from crypto vigilante founder of that, Gareth Eich and his wife Stu Peters, Jake G TV, Curtis Stone, Cal Washington and me sitting around and I didn't know Jake G. TV. I was unfamiliar with him, I was familiar with his work, but I wasn't familiar that he was the one doing the work. And he's a super guy. And by the way, I've got to say, for those of you who have thoughts on Stu Peters, he's a pretty good guy too. And I have, you know, and he's you know, he's Alex Jones. She's an alpha guy. But I've had some really good conversations with Stu, and I think that surprised me a little bit. And that night was one of them. That was this night where we were all sitting around talking. Stu did the least talking. He was just sitting there listening to everybody. It was it was it was a very insightful. It was one of those things. When we all got done, we we all kind of like wandered away from the table and like we did, they brought another van for, they brought another like luxury van for us and had it just parked out there, sat there and idled for two hours while we were just talking. I'm sure the climate alarmists will go nuts over that, but but, uh, it was one of those things where you was like, I could have paid a million dollars. You would never, you could never have drawn up an experience like this, just sitting around with all those guys and listening to them. And I consider them to be brilliant. Minds like Curtis Stone is a fucking off the charts genius. Like, in case people don't know that he is a brilliant dude. Jeff Berwick the sober version of Jeff sees things that nobody else sees. He's he's you know, it. Just so that moment right there, people say like, what is it about Acapulco? It's. Sometimes it's the off campus stuff at night that really kind of make. Yeah, the presentations are amazing and the people are there, but it's kind of like being on a cruise ship, don't you agree? Where like, if you've been on a four day cruise, like by day on day one, you're super excited. Hey, hey. And you're like looking at everybody. And then by day four, you kind of, you don't know everybody, but it's like, hey man, what's up? You kind of saw them, you know, you, you're familiar friendly with people because you're used to them. And that's kind of how it is. But if you don't do the, the nighttime stuff, if you don't go to the dinners and you don't, I mean, the ceremonies are super important. You could do a ceremony with Burkhart that will change your fucking life. I know because it's changed my life. I can tell you from experience. So I don't know, man, that was sort of like there were a couple times where it's like there were moments where you try to be present and be in the moment. For me on stage with David Eick over my shoulder on the big screen, doing the interview is one of those moments, and this is now the third year in a row that I've done it. And every single time I have a mild out of body experience where I try to say like, be cool. Yeah, enjoy it, don't do anything stupid and, and, and breathe, you know, and just, and just and get through all this. So what were your moments from the week that really stood out for you? Because you were, you know, you came in as like, hey, I'll volunteer and help out. And by the, by the end of it, you were, they signed you up for next year, didn't they? Yeah, they signed me up for the stage manager. I'm replacing Miranda and Miranda's getting promoted. She's getting well. She's she's got more jobs than a white Jamaican brother. I swear to God when she said, oh, on the website and this and that. And you're the stage manager. Yeah. For those who for those who don't know, if you've ever watched the HBO anarchist series, the six part series, she's the redheaded girl in it that has a lot of troubles. Well, I'll tell you that it's been it's been a real treat to get to know her over the years and watch her evolution. Of course we celebrated. I don't know, you might have been upstairs, but we we we sang Happy Birthday to her on the stage. Um, I think on the Wednesday was Tuesday or Wednesday was was her birthday. So she's. Boy she's come a long way, huh? Yeah, she really has. Um, you asked me what my highlights were. Two of them. I didn't get it. Hardly. Well, really didn't get to watch any full presentations downstairs except hers. And I had no conception of her backstory. I didn't know the anarchist was about her. I didn't know about what she went through, the person she was before she transformed. Talk about a butterfly coming out of a cocoon. Oh, Phoenix rising out of the ashes. She is she. And she took a lot of heat for that anarchist series. I don't know if any, if people are interested and they want to watch that. It's a six part HBO series, and I'll be honest. I mean, it didn't paint the the, the, the conference in the best light. But to be fair, there were some aspects of it that that weren't great. And so, you know, they're there. And a lot of that I didn't know, I didn't know those, a lot of the people that were a part of that. So I kind of came in and the it to me, it's, it's almost like a different conference when I, when I see the HBO thing. And so, so yeah, her transformation has been great. That's that presentation that she did was I knew was going to be a banger when she, when she got up there, when I, when she showed me the first slide, I was like, okay, this is going to be good. Yeah. That's when I learned, you know, the phrases, bad choices make good stories, just like what you're talking about the dinner. Ah, it's too early. I don't know how I'm going to get home. I know I need to do. I was ready for a bad choice, but the outcome, which is none of your business, was spectacular. And I think both of us had many of those experiences. But man, to hear her whole life story, right? Dude, I was so verklempt. I was just like, half the time tears are coming out. I'm like, what the fuck is this? What's this going on? Because it's just I feel sorrow and the pain of what she was going through. Then a tears of joy and inspiration. And I'm like, I don't do this. Okay, this is not Dave. So Dave, though, it could be because we all let our guards down, we're all a bit emotional. I came back after the week and I fucking broke. I just like I was exhausted. I laid on my bed and I was just like melted. After that I was too. I was too man. But it also it has a way of breaking up that crusty emotional crap all of us carry within us. Yeah, it's really weird because I felt I felt that sensation different times throughout it. Now I wasn't crying, but I could feel like this emotional garbage inside of me cracking and flaking off. And it was actually a cleansing experience, to be honest. 

Um, my second thing that stands out and I forgot his name, but he did three structured meditations. And you know, at my stage, Aaron Grosskopf, Aaron Grosskopf, I have to get in touch with him and get him on my show because I here I am, I'm just managing my stage, making sure that everything's working, that the, you know, testing machine's not next to the other wall, so I don't have to worry about. Da da da da da da. I'm just stage managing about ten minutes into it, right? I'm like, I ain't got nothing to do. I think I'll just give this a try. And he had the music on the specific frequencies and he was talking and the way he talked, I was like, okay, I'll try this. And I, I found myself going deep, deep like, whoa, this is not me. Uh, I'm not into structured meditation and going deep and deeper and deeper and deeper. And then a little voice in the back of my head said, yo, Dave, you got work to do. You need to pull yourself out. So I did, and I literally pulled myself out from there. And just this relief and release, I felt I'm like, wow, this, there's something to this. So that was the first one. He gave three other meditations. So that's the one, one thing that the one speaker on my stage that I would look forward to every day because it would relax me. Then afterwards I'm like, ah, I can now manage this chaos a little bit better because you know, you know what stage management like it is bringing order out of chaos. I mean, call it Masonic, call it whatever you will, but that is the job. I love it, I thrive on it for some sick reason, but it can get very stressful at times. And that meditation just relieved that stress. I'm like, yeah, I can hang up another one. Okay, boy, these stories are popping in my head. Was I got invited to a VIP dinner, the one that was out there in on the venue. And, um, is that like the Monday night? Uh, I'm not sure if it was Monday or Tuesday. I, I know Kat said, hey, we're having VIP dinner. Are you doing anything? Would you like to come? And I'm like, oh, yeah, because Charlie, you can attest to this. The chef that they hired for this to cater and make those things was par excellence. Yeah. So here I am at this big round table and the whole middle of the table is just nothing but wine glasses. I'm like, well, that's a good sign. Not a big wine drinker, but I guess there's gonna be some wine sampling. So they would bring out different types of wine. And I sampled a few of them and every one of them was just top notch. And I'm like, wow, man, this dinner is half as good as this wine. It's going to be pretty good, bro. It was one of the finest meals I ever had in my life. When they had the sea bass ceviche, you know, as the appetizer, because I think it was a four or five course meal. I bit into it and once again, I'm not a big ceviche fan and it was amazing. Course after course after course was amazing. And then they brought out a chocolate tamale. Well, unfortunately I didn't get to enjoy my chocolate tamale because I was like, well, I'm going to go up and grab a drink and you know how it is at an Acapulco. You walk by, you have a conversation with somebody here where you were. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Thirty minutes later, you go back. The table's cleared. I was like, oh, man. But those are just some of the actual highlights of it. But the whole experience is so magical from beginning to end, and it's like a whirlwind. You know, I showed up there, it was slow. We went to Augusto, I got shrunken down, and I thought that was going to be the story of the whole thing getting shipped down by the Mexican cops. Yeah, yeah. Oh, we started off on the right. On the right foot. I mean, I knew it was once, once we could tell there wasn't any major harm. It turned into a funny story right off the bat. You know that that chef who who made that amazing dinner has a restaurant down in the romantic zone of Puerto Vallarta called IQ? And we went down there. That was another one of those things like, hey, you want to go to the VIP dinner tonight? I was like, sure, like, get on the bus, Gus. And that was it. That was the Thursday night one. And when we were when we were on our way down there, we were stuck in traffic and we were parked at a at a red light that was next to the Marina. And there is the biggest yacht I have ever seen in my entire life. Right there. I was like, God damn, that thing is massive and I don't think anything of it. Next day, Max Egan is doing his presentation and he's like, and it's just like, you know, Zuckerberg's yacht down at the Marina. I was like, oh shit, that's that was Zuckerberg's yacht. That makes sense because it was a it was a big. But anyway, we went to that, that that restaurant of his. Yeah. And it was unreal. It's a beautiful, beautiful place. It took us forever to get there in the traffic, but I, I had a chance to um, sitting at the next table over is, uh, vit Jedlanka, the president of Liberland. And you know, it's not every day that you get the president of a country of the newest country in the world to, to come to your event. Well, he's, he, he comes to Acapulco every year. So I got a picture of, I was, I was chit chatting with him and I was, and he took his, uh, passport out and put it on the table. So I've got a picture of it. It's a Libra and across the top diplomatic passport. So he's got his. So I took a picture of that. And then one of the things that they did. They do a lot of auctions, a lot of charities. And they were raising money for a children's home in Puerto Vallarta. An English to Spanish school in Puerto Vallarta and also a, uh, an intentional community in Texas. And so they'll have these auctions periodically throughout the course of the events, but definitely at the VIP dinners because they've got all the people together that have a bunch of money. And one of the things that they auctioned off was, uh, Liberland citizenship and my buddy bought it. My buddy got won the auction and got it. And it comes with, um, it comes with, uh, citizenship in Paraguay. Residency in Paraguay, I should say. So you get a liberland passport, and then you get residency in Paraguay. So one of the things that happened that was that was really funny. Talk about like just crazy shit that happens in Acapulco. The first night, the first day Monday or the day one of the event, we're at like four o'clock in the afternoon and there's going to be at seven when, when the, when the event ends, there's a poker tournament. It's a thousand dollar buy in poker tournament. And, and so the producers, you know, cat runs up to me and goes, next time, you know, next changeover, make sure to announce that we've got slots for the poker. So I announced that okay, two hours later, six o'clock cat goes, we got to do one more announcement for the poker. We really need to get the last of these spots sold. The, uh, Tom walls comes up and finds me. He's the finance minister of Liberland, and he goes. I have an offer to sweeten the pot for tonight's poker. When you go up there and announce it, There's a bounty on my head. Anybody who knocks me out in the poker. You don't have to win. You just have to knock me out. You knock me out, you get a passport, you get citizenship to Liberland. I was like, Holy shit. Okay, so I'm like, I go running up on stage. I go, all right, we've sweetened the pot. There's a bounty, come on and some. And anyway, so it turned out some Canadian guy, it got down to the finals. It was Jeff in the finals. Jeff plays a ton of poker, but he got he got beat. He got beat by some Canadian guy. I'm not sure who knocked out Tom and got the citizenship, but that was one of the things that's like, you know, that you can't do anywhere else. I'm on stage and I was like, please welcome to the stage. Oh, president. You know, it's like you get the president of a country to come on and he's cool and chit chats. I met him last year actually at the, uh, I introduced them to the stage last year as well, but didn't really talk to him too much during that. time. It wasn't until the kids camp, when they had me scheduled to do the presentation at the kids camp about like book publishing and writing books and things like that. He sat in on it and he had more questions than any of the kids. And so I became buddies with him from that. And so it's great to see see those guys, uh, year in and year out there, there, there. And of course, now we have Lieber Pulko, which is happening in Serbia this year. Uh, it's now I think it would be the fourth year of it. So, uh, I don't think I'm going to be able to make it. I would like to go, but I don't think I'm going to be able to go this year. I would like to to the um, Kat asked me if I wanted to do the stage manager gig at Poco, and I said, next year for Poco Definite Poco, I'll get back to you. So that's the way they have it set up. It's on. It's on the Serbian side. So you've got to go into Serbia. And a lot of the events are there, but then I don't know. It's a it's a whole thing. I'll tell you what, you can get e-residency there for one hundred and fifty bucks, and then that allows you to open a business and you can open it and run it on their blockchain and taxes are optional. Oh, really? Yeah. So, so there, there are, there are memberships have their privileges. And it's nice to, to hang out with the Liverpool Echo guys. The first time I met them was out on Jeff's boat and um and they were and Jeff was flying the Liberland flag on his boat and but that boat got sunk in the, in the hurricane. Oh yeah. I remember him saying something about it getting damaged. I didn't know that it got sunk. Yeah. But you know. Otis, was that Otis or was that the the second one? Oh, this was the one that was in two thousand, uh, into twenty twenty three. Right before twenty twenty four. Yeah. Um, yeah, that was when I. Yeah, that was when I was on it. Twenty, twenty, twenty three. Um, you know, the twenty twenty four because another hurricane came in and this one was from what I remember, more rain. It really brought in the rain and didn't it go back out to sea, recharge and then come back in. First hurricane in the history of hurricanes to do that. Yeah, it went so it was Otis. Otis. It's the craziest shit. Okay. This is the reason why everybody thinks it's directed energy. Have you ever heard in your life. And I'm no meteorologist. I just play one on my podcast of a hurricane coming onshore, backing up, going offshore, gaining strength, and then coming back on shore again for a second time. I've never heard of that. And when they looked at the when they looked at where it hit, where that hurricane hit, it hit like, I'm not even exaggerating when you look at the pinpoint at Max's bar. Yeah. So when they say Max's bar. They're not kidding. They're not. They're not like saying, like, a mile from Max's bar. They're saying if you walked out of his bar. Straight to the beach. That's where they put the dot. That said, that's where the the the eye of the her. That's where the the front edge of the hurricane came through. And it's like, you know, you guys aren't helping us any. Like we already sound like unhinged lunatics talking about our theories on directed energy. You can't hit the anarchist group. And with a hurricane that goes onshore, offshore, onshore again and expect us to not have questions about it. That's all I'm saying. Well, it's like Otis. Otis was the same thing. I that's when I coined the term unnatural natural disasters because Otis was a tropical storm, what, five hours before it hit out way out in the Pacific. And within five hours, it turned into a hurricane, a Cat five hurricane, and then took a hard right turn once again. Where did the eye go? over Max's house and the venue, and then it just sat there and then it dissipated. What, so you're telling me that a tropical storm of five hours turned into a Cat five hurricane, took a hard right turn, hit the shore, sat there with high winds and not much rain and then dissipated. But. But I thought a hurricane's lose strength as they go on their storm track, which is across land. They don't just, like, disappear. It's not like London fog. Yeah. You know. So yeah, just that started the whole thing about unnatural natural disasters. And then there was halasun, there was all these other things. And then you start learning about, you know, the Pacific Palisades fires. How come that, uh, blue, uh, dumpster didn't didn't burn the house burnt and it's plastic. Oh, Yeah. See here. You know, um, so not to get off on track on the weather weapons, but yeah, I mean, something always happens. Like the first year I was there, it was a cat five hurricane, two earthquake, two earthquakes during the day, one woke me up and then a U.S. travel advisory against Acapulco didn't stop us, didn't stop us. Know that Dave Weiss, uh, flat earth. Dave is is funny. His, uh, mirror fell down. Like, I think it was twenty, twenty three when we were there. Mirror in his room fell down after the earthquake. And, uh, and, and he took a picture of it, and he's like, the workshop is still on at two o'clock. They're trying to stop it. We won't allow them to stop our workshop because like, he, he spun it like he was playing around. Of course, he spun it as if like the earthquake is trying to silence his discussion of flat earth with everybody. Which is funny because, you know, Dave, Dave is is is the star of the show on flat earth and and he packs the house and it was, uh, and I've, I've now I think it's like the fourth year in a row. I've, I've spent time with Dave and, um, I, you know, I want him to come on this show, but the problem with it is that his presentation is so visual in this audience is so audio that it just doesn't work, you know? And so he's like, when are you gonna have me on? I'm like, dude, it's not you. It's the it's and it's not your information. I'm I'm down to hear it. It's, it's that I want. I mean, it'd be, it'd be fine if everybody I mean, this show goes out in video format for those of you who don't know, but but not everybody listens to it. I mean, not everybody watches it. They listen to it. So and I find that out when I'm at places like Acapulco, when people walk by and they're like, who are you? And then I talk and they go, oh, I know who you are. I never knew what you look like. Yeah. Well, that that happened with Dan Dixon's wife the first year. Yeah, yeah, I know you. I know your voice. And you're like, she. Yeah, she yeah, she she goes, I hey, I know who you and I look, I go, Dan Dicks, you're Dan Dicks. And I go, I know who your husband is. So we were, we were kind of doing the same thing at each other. And again, it's nice, nice to see them. They were down this year as well. It's good to have a lot of like friends that you see over and over again. I mean, I'll tell you what if for if if you get nothing out of Acapulco other than just friendships, acquaintances, whatever, that in and of itself is worth it. Like the people that are down there are so chill. It's like a great, great batch of people who you'd want to have dinner. No, you know, you dinner and drinks and tacos and I've had just amazing, I don't know, just an amazing time. I, I, for anybody who's feeling like isolated and alone or your family thinks you're crazy, you gotta find time to to make it to one of these things. And I know that they're not cheap, and I fully understand that it costs money and requires effort, and you got to get on a plane and do all these these things, and it's a pain in the butt. But what are you what are you waiting for? You. These, these are life experiences that are. It just, you know that. Dave, I, I had a common denominator with that. I, I kind of figured out about three days in. And then I mentioned it to the crowd and I, and I think they sort of understood where I was coming from. I met a lot of people that week that were at a crossroads in their life that were feeling like they were ready for something, but they weren't sure what it was. They just knew they needed to be somewhere for that to happen. They were going to meet somebody. They were going to find out about a company. They were going to get hired by Silver Dave, you know, or whatever. They were going to get a job. They were going to move to a different country. They were going to do something different. They were going to heal themselves. They didn't know how they were going to do it, but they just knew that if they got there, the universe would conspire to make things happen for them. And, and I think that there's a belief that you can do that. And I'll tell you, man, I have never been anywhere where more synchronicities happen that than at Acapulco every year. The hair on my arms stands up when these things happen. And it happens all the time. That's why I, I know that there's criticism of the event, and I know it's expensive. And I know that, you know, people are like, you know, what is this thing? And anarchy is, I can't tell my work, I'm going to an anarchist conference. Truth is, it's you know what, Dave, if you were if you were to tell people that you were going to a health and wellness conference, would that be a lie? Because it's not really a lie. It is a health and wellness conference. Yeah, that's what it's that's what it's kind of turned into at least I mean, it's at least fifty percent health and wellness going on. Right? So. Right. Yeah. So, so whatever it is, you have to, you know, get over the stigma of it's an anarchist conference and things like that. It's not, as I say, it's not Molotov cocktails and burning tires. It's not crypto bros. Uh, in Lambo, it's not any of that. It's like nice people looking to build outside of the system because they recognize the system was designed incorrectly or designed in a way that doesn't benefit them. Unschooled children, homeschooling people that are, that are teaching how to, how to, how to get outside of the system, like it's solutions based. It's the whole thing is like solutions to all of your problems, not all your problems, but a ton of your problems. The solutions are there, are they not? They are. There's so many different solutions. Um, learning about cryptocurrency, learning about homesteading. How do you garden? Learning about health. I mean, you introducing me to Tim James. Uh, two thousand and four changed my life because, you know, you're like, oh, I got something. You got to meet Dave. Dave. Come on, come on, follow me, follow me. So we walked through the garden. Great. Always fantastic. I'm having him on, on Friday. Oh, Good Friday show. And you know, like, oh, he's got this simple green or um, simple Green1985 green eighty five. Sorry, sorry, I misspoke. I do, but and you're like, try it. And I was like, kind of pungent, but I know, but it probably be good. And you know, because I changed my diet. So I have, I don't know, it sounds gay, but vegetable and fruit smoothies every day, that's kind of my. And then a couple scoops of that being healthy. Oh, dude, it's healthy. That's why. Have you ever seen a fat gay. Except typically, no, they're all jacked up. Yeah, exactly. But so I was like, okay, but I'm skeptical. And I was like, okay, I got back and I'll try this. So I bought a packet and put it in there, and within a day or two I got more energy. Yeah, I've got my body is now not starving for nutrients like it was before. And I wasn't even aware that my body was starving for the nutrients until I started feeding it to it. Yeah, it gave me energy and I have really, really bad digestive issues. Had my spleen taken out when I was a kid. Screwed me for life. Bad decisions make good stories. That's a good story. But then the other day, and so once I switched my diet and incorporated the green eighty five, my stomach problems, as long as I stay on that diet are not non-existent, but rare, where before every time I ate, with a few exceptions, I would get differing degrees of a stomach ache from just that unsettled feeling to balled up for twenty four hours, feeling like I just ate some crushed glass and washed it down with a big cup of battery acid. Yeah. Changed that. Started eating better then the green eighty five was the secret sauce. Because that's kind of the difficult for me to describe. The foundation of my smoothie that tied everything together. And it fed me more than just a lot of sugars and vitamins. I got my nutrients and my things. And then two, another auxiliary benefit is that at night when I go to cook dinner, you know, because I cook a regular dinner, I wasn't as hungry and I ate less. That was amazing because, you know, here's an example. I used to make like half pound, you know, hamburgers. Well, now I make third pound hamburgers and sometimes have a hard time finishing it. I know, so there's and this is not a pitch everybody for green eighty five. But back to that story. I met Tim. Yep. Changed my life. Um, met Max Egan. I've met Jeff. I've met these amazing people. And the reason why I go back every year is not for the presentations. Although the presentations are top notch solutions based. The whole thing that you said, it's for the people, bro. It's for people like you meeting and in person. And when you meet somebody in person as opposed to over the internet, it changes the relationship. And not only would I meet you, but I'm meeting people from all over the world were fascinating stories just on my mind is blown sometimes about what their life is like and where they've come from. And how did you get here? I asked that a lot because we had so many newbies all over the place. I never it's such an international. I understand we're international, we're in Mexico, and I don't expect it to all be Americans. But how many Australians did you meet? Like twenty, I mean thirty. They're everywhere. Canadians everywhere. Portuguese. Belize. Sweden. Denmark. England. Latvia. Yeah, yeah. Dubai. A bunch of people that left. I, I was messaging with one of the guys that I was at the, at the, at the, one of the dinners with, I didn't know him, but he went, he did that three week Egypt trip with Jeff and Christophe and everything. He was on that trip with them. And so I was sitting next to him at one of the dinners. We, you know, have the assigned seating. So I got seated next to him, super guy. And we exchanged phone numbers and, and then, um, and it stayed kind of in touch throughout the conference, see each other around. But then when it ended, I was watching. I was just online and I saw. Berwick was had an interview with that guy who had left our conference. Well he didn't you know, after the the bombings happened then then he left the conference and went to Dubai and was reporting from Dubai that that hotel next to him was getting hit with missiles. So I'm messaging him like, Holy shit, man, you've gone from one place into the other. He's like, yeah, it's really scary. So hopefully he's, he's okay. But, uh, but yeah, but there were a lot of people from Dubai is my point. There are a lot of people from all over the world that come to that conference. And so it's, it's just a, it's a great, uh, international little melting pot for, for everybody. I think it's something that everybody should do, not everybody. I think that for a lot of people, let's just use that term need to go experience. And you know, it is expensive if you just especially if you're buying the VIP ticket or the whole big put you up in a thing, you know, but a, way to save money is to volunteer. Yeah, just go there and I. Why don't you get a VIP ticket? And I'm not sure what it is, but it's a few hundred bucks. I think you work twenty to thirty hours. So you're working during during the week. But the most important thing is you're there, you're at the event and you're meeting people. You're meeting people that are like minded. You can actually have a conversation about, say, Covid when Covid was going on and about the dangers of the vaccine. So I hope I don't get you canceled there, buddy, but you can bleep it out because you are on YouTube. I don't want to feel real bad. That ship has sailed. Yeah, exactly. That's why I don't even deal with YouTube. But you know, and not have to have that either. Blank chloride stare. Like. What do you mean, the vaccine? How about you? And Donald Trump says it's safe and effective and, you know, or get that visceral, angry reaction that I experience here in the real world, because those are the two biggest reactions I got. Either that the look or them claws come out and you become the world's worst SOB for trying to tell somebody you're being deceived. But then again, as Mark Twain said, it's easier to deceive a man than it is to tell him he's been deceived. That doesn't exist there. You can have these open conversations or you can talk about geo engineering, right? And then about the persistent aerosol spraying or whatever they call it. And nobody's going to look at you crazy. In fact, they're going to be like, yeah, I understand. I spent a lot of, a lot of times with the, with the volunteers, this, this, this last time because because they had, they were stationed, they would have one that was stationed in the morning shift backstage with me and then a, a and then in the afternoon they'd rotate out a new new person in. And, and so, you know, I, I really my job was the beginning and ending of of the presentation. So in the middle I had time to chit chat with with them backstage and talk about things and or run around doing things. And I would inevitably run across volunteers that would make sure that they're checking wristbands to make sure that people were. So I would just say, hey, what's going on? How are you doing? Where'd you come from? And, and, and bullshitting with everybody. The volunteers are fantastic. That's a great way for people to get there and, and do it on a budget. And, um, and, and, uh, an experience that. Yeah, I think people should experience it. Let's wrap up with this. Let's talk about how you, how you, how your trip ended. Because, you know, the thing about we're talking about hurricanes and earthquakes and all of that. And, and, um. And of course, the event ends on a Friday. Well, the Acapulco ends on a Friday. Saturday and Sunday are still events going on. It's the dollar vigilante and the crypto vigilante summits. Those are Saturday and Sundays at the convention center. So I leave Saturday. Uh, Curtis Stone was scheduled to leave Sunday, but he needed to get out a day early, so he rescheduled and he and I jumped on in an Uber. Um, Saturday afternoon and went to the airport and then just hung out and waited for our flights and chit chatted and talked. And that's part of the reason why I say the dude's off the charts. You know, he's off the charts. And, and if you need a homestead, you need to go to freedom farmer's. Holy shit. Like what he's doing over there is mind blowing. So, um, we, we didn't realize that we were, like, on the last chopper out of Saigon. You had no idea that that was going that that was going to kick off. And so I get home and like, I'm exhausted from a week. Like I'm physically exhausted too. But I didn't realize how like emotionally drained I was too. I don't normally get emotionally drained, but I was after that, I was just like, uh, like Saturday night was, was a, I slept well, but I woke up Sunday morning and it was chaos going on. And I wake up to, I get on the telegram group chat between all the, the speakers, group chat and that's when I see what's happening. And Max Egan posts a picture, a picture of him standing where he's holding his. You know, he's he's standing with a burning car over his shoulder that's, you know, and, and I'm laughing because that is the exact place that Curtis and I were standing when we were putting our bags into the Uber. Oh, in front of the hotel. That's where you stand when the. You know. And so the picture of Max was like, that was the last place I was standing before I got in the car and we went to the airport. And it's funny that the next morning he's standing in that same spot, but it's very different because there is now a car that's on fire behind him. And so what was your experience like with all that? Well, my whole thing is Saturday I was off, right. And some friends of mine, a bunch of them were going to go up north about forty five minutes to this absolutely beautiful beach town called Sayulita. See? And Charlie, if you're going to make the most beautiful postcard or the most beautiful beach town in Mexican coast, this would be it. I had tacos and cellulitis and afternoon. It is a beautiful place. It is. It's a surfers Paradise. Yeah. So it was just going to be a day trip. They're like, hey, we're going up there for a few days. We've got a taxi. We want to tag along. I was like, I'll go up there and take a taxi back, get on, get back, get packed up, get on my, you know, head to the airport on Sunday, take off. Have a great week. So it didn't take me long to realize, well, this day trip ain't going to be a day trip. I'm spending the night. So luckily I found a little hostel with a room and it was literally two twin beds. No air conditioner, but a noisy fan and a window. Okay, I can deal with this. I got a place to stay. Didn't sleep hardly at all that night because I'm planning my escape. I have to get up early in the morning. Soon as I hear the chickens crow, I got to go down and get my phone from my buddy's Airbnb, get a taxi cab back, get packed. The whole logistics was going through my brain and that's what I did. Got up in the morning, grabbed a cup of coffee, walked my buddy's B&B, got my phone, went to the square, the town square and tried to get a ride on Diddy. I know that sounds funny. It's a taxi ride share down there called Diddy and Diddy took me home. Midianites oh boy, I don't we don't want to talk about that. Oh, hey, I didn't have I didn't participate in the baby. Thank God, thank God. So I there's no drivers there. And I don't know, maybe they haven't started in in the town yet. Yeah. So I'm right by where all the taxis are. If I walk over and say, hey, how much to the container in a port of Arta got quoted me a price. It says let's go. So we're driving through the mountains and about halfway there he just hands me his cell phone with all the pictures of what's going on and his Spanish text. I didn't read it. And the only thing he said to me is muy malo, Puerto Vallarta. Si, si. My response was, el cartel. He said, si el cartel. And I said, he's like, I'm like, okay. And for some reason I was completely at peace. I didn't stress, I just repeated a phrase that had said many times during the week. Gee, now this is going to turn out that is the theme. It was the theme for an Acapulco. I wonder how this is going to turn out and the outcome is none of your business, and the outcome is none of your business. Exactly. So we got into town and no sooner do we get into town on the main road, there's a burnt up car Yeah. Surrounded by military. I don't know what they were, but they were armed to the teeth on razor's edge. So I was like, huh? And you could see in the distance, you know, in like, the romantic zone, El centro, the fires. Well, we got to the container in, you know, and I'm talking to people, they're looking at their local news because they speak Spanish. Some are from there and this and that. And pretty much after a few hours figured out, okay, the beef is not between the tourists or the locals. The beef is between the cartel and the government. In other words, it was two governing bodies having a public conversation, pretty much what it was. The car, the government says, yeah, we're taking out your leader. And the cartel's response was, well, you might run the government, but we run the streets and we're going to show you that. So it was a ghost town about three o'clock. I, I was exhausted like you, Charlie. I was exhausted from work. You're not sleeping emotionally drained. And I pretty much said, well, I'm in no danger, right? So I literally at three o'clock in the afternoon laid down. I woke up at ten o'clock the next day. All right. Well, there's a few cars on the road now. All right. Then later on that afternoon, that evening, everything started opening back up. We went and got some rock and tacos in the neighborhood there, the little taqueria, you know, the market was opened up, so we got a couple of beers and then it was, okay, how do I get home? So I called the airline and they said, well, the earliest we can get you out is next Sunday. And I'm like, uh, okay, book it. So I have a plan B, I have an exit already booked. And then it was, how do I get out of here? Because I'm supposed to be to work tomorrow, right? And so that's what I did. I went online, I found a flight on Viva Airlines from Puerto Vallarta to Tijuana with a layover in Guadalajara. And luckily I've been to Guadalajara airport before. But if you all have never been to a Mexican airport, especially Guadalajara, and you don't speak Spanish or read Spanish, have fun. Yeah. Have fun. But luckily that wasn't the case. So my whole plan was, okay, I'm going to get a flight to TJ. I'm going to do the express border crossing. Then I'm going to take a shuttle to San Diego. And at San Diego I had a ten o'clock flight out. I'm going to land at midnight in Sacramento. I'm going to be home by one o'clock, sleeping in my own bed. So that's what I did. Thursday came. Got up, got it. Took off. Everything was smooth as silk, Charlie. I mean, I'm like, ah, I've been blessed. So I make it to San Diego Airport at five o'clock and I said, do you have an earlier flight? And she says, oh yeah, we do. I was like, it's delayed, but it'll leave at seven o'clock. I said, you got seats. She says, there's four left. I got you on it. I'm thinking, you know, the heavens have finally opened up and paid me for everything I've gone through in this great escape and everything I've done dot dot dot dot dot dot dot. So I went and I got my first good beer because. It's not good beer, but it's drinkable if it's cold. Finished it and walked to the gate thirty minutes before boarding time. And instead of saying Sacramento said Seattle, I'm like, oh, they changed my gate. I go up to the lady. I said, uh, where's the flight from to Sacramento taking off? She says, sir, that flight has been canceled. Oh, God damn it, dude. And at that point before she said that, I was like, so chill in my emotional stress level. I was like, the Big Lebowski, man, you know? And as soon as she said that, my inner stress level went to. I'm going to rip somebody's effing face off, right? Because I was exhausted. I'm like, are you kidding me? So I go over to the customer service desk and the guy's like, sorry, I can get you out of ten fifteen. But I said, so you're going to put me up for the night, Right. And I'm expecting like a motel six, I. As long as there's a bed and I can take a hot shower, which was something that I didn't really get a chance to do much in Mexico. So. And then he says, oh, well, I says, yeah, sign me up. I said, no, I sent you a text. We sent you a text. It's on there. And I have an old phone and I just do not do phones. And I got, I was about ready to rip somebody's head off and he's like, no, no, no, relax, I'll get it. And he opened it up and he says he clicked the link. And he said, this is our most popular resort. It's the Sheridan on the Marina. It's a four star nice. And that I went back to The Big Lebowski, bro. I'm like, really? So what you're telling me is that you're going to give me a ride to a four star hotel, put me up in a four star hotel room, drive me back, and then get me out of here at ten fifteen. He's like, yes, sir. And at that point I says, book it. And sure enough, man, I went to this hotel room and it was nice. Even had a private balcony overlooking the Marina. I'm like, ah, good night sleep. I went down to the lobby or the sports bar had way overpriced dinner and drink, but I don't care at this point. Of course it's. At least the cars weren't exploding in the parking lot and on fire, right? They were right. The other hotels you didn't see, like, uh, pickup trucks with a guy on an N six machine gun. About five guys behind him stacked to the right. No, it was not that. No. And I finally made it home. Next day. Got home about noon. About one o'clock, and then collapsed. Dude absolutely collapsed for about two days. I wasn't doing nothing. My house was already clean before I left, thank God. So I didn't have to come home to a messy house. And the rest is history, man. Bad choices make good stories and the outcome is none of your business. Bad choices make good stories. I think that's going to be the name of this one, I think. What do you have cooking for third rail? Um, I have Tim James on this Friday next Friday. I have Avery on there. And then I think we're going to reach out to some friends from Acapulco and roll from there. You can find it. It's a live show, so it broadcasts live every Friday at five PM Pacific, eight p m eastern on the third rail with Nature Boy Rumble, channel a m. Wake up and tap the new prisoners. Plus, it is simulcast out on studio eighty four twenty four. The audio podcasts are wherever audio podcasts are served Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Podbean you name it, it's out there. Third rail. That's Dave Alcott, The Nature Boy. Go get yourself some of what he's serving up over there. If you want to connect with me, macroaggressions dot io is the place to do that. Thanks, everybody. We'll talk to you again soon.