Charlie Robinson (00:01.814)
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extremely relevant to where we are now. Because what they were planning with this abstract called Bulls, Bears and Birds Preparing the Financial Industry for an Avian Influenza Pandemic. That's the name of the half-day symposium on avian influenza for senior leaders and decision makers from the financial sector.

who were responsible for business continuity, health and security. So you go, whoa, hang on a sec. When did this happen? this Bulls, Bears and Birds event took place in 2005. So it's like, well, did they need it? I mean, did they? Well, I don't know. You tell me, did they have, they didn't have an avian influenza.

Charlie Robinson (04:50.475)
Outbreak though. They have been trying to push that for a long long time But just three years later, did they have a catastrophe with the banks? They did it looked a little different. It wasn't virus related. It was it was another form of virus. was central banking virus and in all the inflated housing market and all that good stuff, but the same Thread runs through all of this right? It's it's we're gonna talk about what could happen in the future

with some epidemic, right? Some pandemic that's gonna come around and it's gonna kill everybody. And we need to prepare for it. We need to plan accordingly. And so they've done these in similar, with similar themes, but it's like, how do we prepare for the media messaging and the overwhelming health needs of everybody rushing the emergency room?

Right, so that's one version where they've done the role play tabletop exercises and work through all those things to say, well, in this situation, we would have supply chain issues and we would have this and we would have that. This event that they put on was different in that it was specifically for the people on Wall Street. It's like, happens to the, know, fuck the people. What happens to the money when something like this happens?

Now, of course, the underlying theme of this is that some avian influenza situation is just going to sprout out of nowhere, sweep across the world, just, you know, as nature does, and then it was no fault of anybody's, but we have to plan accordingly just in case, right? That's the sales pitch. Now, we are well past that. We have been doing this for a while.

and we understand that this is problem reaction. This is not what if some catastrophe happened in the future? This is we are planning a catastrophe in the future. This is what you need to know when it comes in the lead up to it. This is how your messaging needs to be. This is how you need to position yourself. And this is how, when it starts, this is how the structure of...

Charlie Robinson (07:13.774)
of the operation will work, right? So you have these tabletop exercises to bring in what they did, the event brought together experts and leaders from the medical, public health, and business continuity communities, financial communities roughly, and to apprise the financial industry leaders on the threat of avian flu.

to offer suggestions regarding what the financial industry could do to prepare and respond. So this is the abstract. I'll just read it. This is from their own words, Bulls, bears, and birds preparing the financial industry for an avian influenza pandemic. The event brought together experts and leaders from the medical, public health, business continuity, and financial communities to apprise

Financial industry leaders on the threat of avian influenza and to offer suggestions Regarding what the financial industry could do to prepare and respond Because everybody knows the financial industry is really good at responding to avian flu Pandemics, right?

What are we talking about? Okay, the authors of this study are the same cast of characters that are behind everything else. Inglesby, Tara O'Toole of Dark Winter 2001, Atlantic Storm 2005, Clayde X 2018, right? Jennifer Nuzzo, Beth Malden, Nora Lean, Gigi Quick-Gronvall, Eric Toner,

So they ran this drill 20 years ago in 2005. in 2000, not for nothing, but in 2005, I remember I was in Asia, I was in and out of Asia and they were having bird flu issues. I mean, they weren't, it wasn't a major thing, but they were treating it like it was a major thing, you know, with the...

Charlie Robinson (09:25.378)
checking people's temperatures at the airport to make sure they didn't have like high temperatures and things like that. And I know this because I went through the airport in Shanghai with a high temperature and it was totally convinced I was going to get like total recalled out of there. And I was going to be like, they're like, how long are in Shanghai? I'm like two weeks. And then they just started flipping out and they, they realized I have a fever and then I'm going to chicken coop for the rest of my life. So I, I, I know that they were doing this in 2005, they were talking about it in Asia, but it really kind of fizzled out. There wasn't

We never really got the Avian Flu tour, world tour that we were promised. You know, they just, I don't know, I guess the PR campaign fizzled or something. Something didn't work. Timing wasn't right. Control structure might not have been in place yet. I don't know. It could be a test run. But when they talk about these things like Avian Flu, I mean, it's gonna come back. mean, you you get the Bat Flu and some sort of...

variation of this. You they tried monkeypox and that didn't score well with the, with the, with the, you know, the people that they, they tabletopped it with and they said, well, you know, it's, everyone loves monkeys and they're not really scary. You can't, you gotta get a scary, like spider pox would be way different than monkey pox. Monkey pox is adorable. Like, you know, you can get monkey pox in Cancun, it seems like, but I don't know. So, so I'm assuming that they're going to

do this in some form or fashion. The reason why I say this is extremely important is because the financial industry is going to be kept abreast of this in advance of it, before it happens, right? So there's so much money at stake. And when you're talking about these decisions and we saw what happened with COVID and they get the excuse to print tens of trillions of dollars into existence and, know, over the course of three months, which is crazy. So you know that there is

If there's some global health component, it's gonna be tied to the financial industry. mean, because this Venn diagram overlaps so easily. There's so much money in healthcare and where does that money come from? Well, you know, all these companies are publicly traded where you have to look to Wall Street and it's like, all right, well, we have to talk about the money behind the companies that are in the healthcare industry as well, right? So it's not just as simple as saying this doesn't impact Wall Street.

Charlie Robinson (11:49.552)
This is a health care issue. It's like, well, who's publicly traded? All the health care companies, all the vaccine manufacturers, all the big pharma companies. And that that depends on Wall Street. So it's they're going to need to be kept up to speed on this. So. They were at. So what they did is they the same team that they used for Atlantic Storm in 2005, just around the same time they did this, they they they ran.

Atlantic storm, which was germ warfare in Europe. And of course, as we know, vaccines are the solution. They're always the solution, no matter what it is, guy stubs his toe, vaccines are the solution. because what they do is work backwards, starting with vaccines are the solution. And then how do we create a scary chain of events that then predicates us saying, see, we told you vaccines are the solution. So they're all Johns Hopkins University.

The Center for Civilian Bio Defense Strategies, but they've moved it Did you know they moved it? They did

It has, it's now known as, and it has been known for a little while, but it's now known as UPMC, Center for Health Security. This is for the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, though it's still based in Baltimore. And for those of you who are unfamiliar with the geography of the East coast of the United States, Pittsburgh and Baltimore aren't really close to each other. So it's not like, Pittsburgh is in Western Pennsylvania, Baltimore, it's on the coast, on the East coast. So it's not like,

It's a very unusual sort of relationship. They focus on pandemics, emerging infectious diseases, and broader public health emergencies. So the people from Johns Hopkins Center in Baltimore are now part of something else called University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, but it's also in Baltimore.

Charlie Robinson (13:58.031)
Just for geography purposes, just so you know. because when you hear this things at University of Pittsburgh, you're gonna think, they did this in Pittsburgh, they didn't. It's just because. And so what they did, they get federal funding for bioterrorism. By the way, the people who started the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, UMPC Medical Center for Health Security, the two people who are in charge are

Tara O'Toole and Tom Inglesby. They're the ones that you keep hearing over and over and over again who are involved in Dark Winter and Atlantic Storm and Claude X. And the reason why they're involved in that is because they run this company. They're in charge of UPMC Center for Health Security. so what they did was they went after federal funding for bioterrorism. And they were like, okay, we'll start this group.

and then we'll be able to finance, we'll be able to get, you know, like there's not a huge market for bioterrorism right now, like in 1998 when they started it. When they started the company, the amount of federal funding for bioterrorism in the United States in 1998 was $8 million, which is nothing. Like they'll finance that, you can study,

gonorrhea in Lebanon with eight million dollars from the federal government if you just petition them hard enough so the fact that they were only spending eight million dollars for federal funding of bioterrorism is is kind of Frankly a little bit alarming. You know, I don't think that it's actually gonna go towards biotech. So so once once Tara and Tom got involved in this in 1998 they then said well, know if we if we were smart about this

what we could do is we could really kind of create the fear that there is bioterrorism. Like we could say, well, what if Cladex or what if Dark Winter or what if Atlantic Storm? mean, what if Atlantic Storm is germ warfare in Europe, right? And you're going, is there funding for bioterrorism in the United States? Well, there's eight million bucks for it. Can we get a piece of that? And they're like, of course we could get a piece of that,

Charlie Robinson (16:25.241)
What if instead of just getting a piece of the 8 million bucks, we grew the whole pie and took a piece of that instead? And so that's what they said about to do. And not just them on their own. don't want to make it, I'm not trying to say that they are alone are responsible for this, but an industry sprouted which was used to terrify people into fantasizing about what could happen in the future. That there would be some sort of catastrophic germ warfare attack.

And if only we had been prepared, things would have been much different. And they do this by creating these simulations, these tabletop exercises, and they do it over and over again. They've done it for 20 years now. it didn't take long. It really only took the first couple. With Dark Winter, they did that in 2001. And so to give you just an idea of how big of a pie this is now that they have grown from 8 million in 1998,

to just five years later, just five years later, from 8 million to 4.5 billion.

Okay, so there is a tremendous amount of money at stake here. Now that's only two years after 9-11. That's more than 20 years ago. The funding was four and a half billion. So they found themselves one of those gold veins, you know, and you're out there mining, you hope you find one. They found one. They created an industry, an industry of fear. They manufactured an industry of fear.

created these fake scenarios saying that in the future there will be bioterrorism that will happen. Now of course, irony of all ironies is that the people in the government are the ones that are the boogeymen putting this on. They're the ones behind the bioterrorism. So you can write your papers and have your tabletop exercises about what you're going to do in the event and the aftermath of a bioterrorism event. the honest answer is

Charlie Robinson (18:39.021)
you'll do whatever those in charge tell you to do because those who are in charge telling you what to do are the ones behind it. It's not going to be some natural occurrence, you know, a bat in a wet market sort of situation. Now they'll sell that as the reason, but it'll be a lie as are most things that they tell you. you can see where they're going with this. You can understand that, that,

that they grew this, UPMC is not just some ramshackle little hospital, it's a network of hospitals. Now it has 20 hospitals, 37,000 employees. And they need to know that, you know, their UPMC Center for Health Security is set up to scare the shit out of the general public and use that as justification to shake them down for more money.

Let's talk about the organizations that were represented at the event because all the devils were there.

as you might expect, it's banks and insurance companies. And they were told what would happen to them, what they need to be prepared for in the event of, you know, birds. Birds, everybody. We've got crazy birds and they're dying in China. And so now we have to shut down the world. So what does that mean to American Express? Well, American Express was there. They were sitting in this meeting along with AIG and Aetna.

and the American Stock Exchange and Bank of America and Blackstone and Citigroup and Credit Suisse and Deutsche Bank Credit Suisse and Deutsche Bank they should be sitting there with dunce caps on because in 2005 both of those banks were insolvent and there still are zombie banks waiting to fall apart the FBI was sitting in this meeting I'm sure that's no surprise to anybody who knows how this works the Federal Reserve was there

Charlie Robinson (20:42.192)
They had a seat at the table in 2005 to hear what Tom and Tara had to say about the direction they wanted to take the world in the event of some totally random avian flu influenza outbreak, right? That isn't on their calendar somewhere. So they talk about that. They brought in the Ford Foundation because they need to be involved. They brought in Department of Homeland Security, Goldman Sachs, and the White House to make sure they knew what was happening.

They brought in JP Morgan's and Lehman Brothers. Of course, Lehman would go out of business three years later. Brought in Marsha McLennan, probably to ask them about...

9-eleven possibly they brought in the New York City Office of Emergency Management. You remember the the the PEOC Remember that would not that's the presidential one. This is the New York office Office of Emergency Management. This was the one that was abandoned that was in Trade Center seven It was abandoned and when the guys showed up there to get everybody to evacuate. There's hot coffee There's coffee still steaming and the people that had left. Yeah, so NYU was there

Oracle was there Larry Ellison that brought in the nuclear threat initiative to sit in this meeting to talk about what they would do in the in the case of avian influenza Northwest mutual life insurance Pfizer of course was there and which would be expected and they were probably sitting right next to Reuters who is going to be this the Media distribution arm that would help to sell the narrative

And of course, next to them would be the World Bank and the World Health Organization. So Wall Street didn't get the avian pandemic that they were role playing, but two years later, these groups would be working together during the 2007 and 2008 crash, which was extremely convenient because you had all these people already sitting down for discussions about what would we do in the event of a catastrophe, right? Now the catastrophe could change.

Charlie Robinson (22:50.096)
but maybe what you do in the aftermath of that doesn't. Forced marriages, they didn't mention forced marriages of the banks in this simulation, but forced marriages of the banks is what happened in real life in the aftermath of the housing collapse in 2008. so they put some of these banks were slated to walk the plank like Lehman, others were sort of forced marriage like

You got to go marry your cousin over here and you got to go take in all of their bad debt and you guys got to make this work because otherwise we're going to have a much bigger systemic banking collapse and that of course can't happen because we're not done stealing everything out of America that's not bolted down yet. We still need two more decades to do that. So of course in 2008, they put these the same group of people together, the same representatives are sitting in this meeting talking about the potential of a possible bird flu. Now they've got an economic collapse.

that they themselves were instrumental in creating, by the way. It's like, how do we save ourselves from this gigantic problem that we created for ourselves? But, so anyway, wanna, it's important that you know who is sitting there because the people who are sitting there and talking about this and role playing this, it doesn't matter if they're talking about birds or bears or whatever, you know, like it doesn't matter if you're talking about monkeypox or bird flu or COVID.

same sort of policies are going to apply no matter what. How do we make sure that we retain our money, that we are able to get a lifeline from the federal government and liquidity to make sure that we don't run out of money during this situation? And then in the chaos of it all, how do we make sure that we position ourselves accordingly, right? So that others are impacted more so than some we are.

So it was co-sponsored by UPMC, Deutsche Bank, great, and the Contingency Planning Exchange. This event took place in September 23rd, 2005 in New York City. There were 200 people in attendance. It was a half-day event. There were 100 different organizations that were represented there. I mentioned a lot of them.

Charlie Robinson (25:16.589)
And you never heard of it. You never heard a damn thing about this, which is fine. They want Wall Street involved in pandemic planning. And what they talked about was they said, listen, it's H5N1 avian flu, and it has the potential to kill hundreds of millions of people. This is the scenario that they ran, right? So...

So they said the business community is going to need to come together and share resources and do a couple things. said information technology to help the government solve the problem. And I would put the problem in air quotes because, know, funny how it's always a problem of their own making. Interesting. But but they talked about the information technology.

How are we gonna help the government solve the problem? They talked about these businesses needing to come together for logistics capacity. How are we going to then manage this process? mean, this is a worldwide event. We need to make sure that things are ordered and routed, right? So then third on this list is the distribution processes. How do we...

What's the logistics of this? What's the distribution network gonna look like? How are we gonna get these things to the people? And then when I say logistics and distribution, you could probably say, they would probably tell you, yeah, logistics and distribution of food and water and things like that. But if you ask me, I think it's distribution of vaccines. Because whenever they go into these places, the first thing they do before they give them food and water is make sure everybody gets vaccinated.

because we know it's part of a depopulation plan. It's written in Kissinger's memo in 1974. You can read it for yourself. NSSC 200 written on December 10th. Our policy towards the third world is that of depopulation. So when they come in, so when the businesses and the healthcare companies and the bankers are plotting about distribution and logistics,

Charlie Robinson (27:36.496)
It's not to get food and water to people who need it most, because these people are actively trying to murder everybody with their vaccines. So you know it's not about trying to help people. It's just that it's so much easier to sell this narrative to the general public when you tell them that you're coming to help them as opposed to coming to kill them. Right? It just works better. Everybody is a little bit more inclined to go with the program if you say,

We're from the government and we're here to get you food and water. And you go, well, I like food and water, come on in, right? But what they don't tell you is that we also need to inject you with something. It's always the solution to the problem in these scenarios, always.

And that is a feature, not a bug. Because the people at Johns Hopkins, that is the Deep State University. The Rockefellers founded this. They funded this into existence. If you're wondering, like, why does all this crazy shit come out of Johns Hopkins? Because the fucking Rockefellers financed it. It is the laboratory for every bad idea that's out there right now. And when you have these events, when you have these, oh, event 201 and all these things going on here,

Whose fingerprints are all over it? John Topkin Center for Public Health. Always. Always.

This is what they do. So again, they're not trying to help Wall Street and make sure that everybody is safely in their bunkers. say, no, how are we going to profit from this? While we also scare the shit out of the public and get them to not only accept our vaccine solution, but fucking demand it. Literally demand it.

Charlie Robinson (29:31.313)
It's easy to do if you know how people work. You just get them really scared and then offer them the solution. So the presenters in this included Rajiv Venkaiah, MD, Senior Director of Bio Defense Homeland Security Council, the White House. Great. What did he ask? What was he talking about in his presentation? Well, he said he sought to engage all federal agencies in the government's response. And you go,

all federal agencies? Does every federal agency need to be involved in this? mean, there's some of them that I just, I don't know. Doesn't seem like it fits to me. But when you understand that this is, it's bigger than that. It's not an actual emergency. It's just that when they get to declare something an emergency, it grants them sweeping powers that allow them to do a lot of the things that they would rightly be hanged for doing to you.

under the guise of emergency use authorization, as we saw with COVID, or just emergency. Right, so everything, hey, listen, it's an emergency. Well, you're not allowed to just come in my house and do this and this and this and this. You're right, normally we're not allowed to do this, that, and the other, but it's an emergency. Or as the Nazis would say, it's for your safety. Yeah, I'm fine.

My safety is my responsibility. I don't need the government to be in charge of my safety. But you see, it's not about your safety. They don't give a flying fuck about your safety. They're trying to murder you. Always know that in the back of your mind. These people are trying to kill me. I just have to figure out how they're gonna do it. So when they have one of these events and they're like, everyone's coming to save us. They're not coming to save you. They're saving themselves.

They're plotting for how they can reimagine society in the aftermath of one of these fake emergencies that they unfurl onto the world. Next person speaking there, James Pavitt. He's from the Scowcroft Group. Holy fucking shit. Brent Scowcroft is one of the most dangerous people in the Reagan administration. Principal and former Deputy Director of Ops at the CIA. This guy had thoughts.

Charlie Robinson (31:49.584)
He stood up there and he made references to the Katrina response to disasters with advanced notice. was like, see, Katrina had like, I don't know if you guys remember in 2005, I very well remember Katrina. Part of the reason why I, and it could have been an engineered storm and it probably was, but the thing about hurricanes as opposed to earthquakes,

as somebody who lived in Southern California for like ever, is that hurricanes you have five days notice that they're coming. Earthquakes you don't. So there was a component of the Hurricane Katrina story that was like, know, the national narrative was, this is terrible. But you know what the underlying kind of running theme was?

y'all had five fucking days to plan for this and you just stayed there and did nothing? Like this is on you. And in the aftermath of that, I don't know if you remember what happened, but it turned into chaos. They started confiscating guns. They were going door to door, confiscating guns. They were doing all kinds of crazy stuff, you know, because it was an emergency. So when this guy, this former deputy director of operations at the CIA,

is coming up there talking about this with the bankers and in the vein of bird flu, avian flu situations. he's talking about bringing the nation's scientific talent and economic power together to fix the pandemic. Fix the pandemic? How are you fixing the pandemic? And pardon me if I'm not comforted by the fact that the guy who is the deputy director

Director of Operations for the CIA is talking to me about fixing pandemics. Now, the arrogance. Okay, first of all, if there was an actual pandemic, the arrogance of thinking you're like, I'm gonna come up here and fix it. The only way you would be that arrogant to stand up there and say that you were going to fix the pandemic is if you knew that it wasn't a pandemic at all.

Charlie Robinson (34:09.915)
that it was some created catastrophe.

If there's an actual pandemic, you wouldn't be asking the CIA what to do. But if it was a contrived one, you'd bring in somebody like, I don't know, the deputy director of operations for the CIA, and you'd have him talk to people about how it is. know, like Katrina, national security threat, talked about the impact on global business. It's not about people. Of course, in this scenario, they didn't even pretend that it was about people. It was only about

banks and insurance companies. You insurers are gonna get walloped. You guys in the reinsurance company industry, you guys are all in for a catastrophe. You might need to plan accordingly, which is whatever that means to you.

Charlie Robinson (35:01.349)
get yourself somebody in the government who will funnel you money so that you don't wind up as Lehman Brothers or whatever. I don't know. But figure it out. This is how it's gonna be. So more of the presenters continued. had Robert Webster, PhD from St. Jude's Research Hospital. He's the Department of Infectious Disease head. They brought him in there to talk. And they brought in the Director of the World Health Organization.

collaborating center on the ecology of influenza viruses in lower animals and birds. That's a hell of a title.

And I don't think that, well, I'm gonna have to, we're gonna say that one again because I don't think this would fit on a business card. It would be the director.

of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on the Ecology of Influenza Viruses in Lower Animals and Birds.

No, I don't know. I mean, that's a hell of a title. So, but they brought these people, this guy in, Robert Webster, and then this other person who is the director of this long-named World Health Organization group. And what they said was that, they said the H5N1 virus, which doesn't exist, has killed more than 50 % of the people infected.

Charlie Robinson (36:30.201)
So in this scenario, it was a real major killer, like 50%. And so what they said was that the scientists, so in this sense, scientists have formulated new vaccines from a new viral strain in 15 days, but they need help from politicians. what they said in this was the scientists, quote, the scientists have performed their work

And now it's time for the political leaders to do their part. Okay. So they talked about how this, how we have the ability, this 2005, they're talking about this. Now, I don't know if they're making this up. don't know if they're, they're working on the technology now to create vaccines in less than a hundred days. Welcome Trust in the UK has spoken openly about this, but this was 20 years ago. And they're saying that, that scientists have formulated new vaccines in just 15 days.

That may be part of the scenario and maybe false, but whatever. Pretend that it's true. Maybe it is true. But they say that we, the scientists, we've done our part. We made the vaccine. We've got it ready to go and it'll save all these people from this virus that kills 50 % of the people that get it. We've done our part. Now it's up to the government to do theirs. So if you were the government,

What would that tell you? How would you respond to that? What would your part be? Your part would be to cram it down everybody's throat, right? To open up the, you know, to emergency use authorization. That would be one, get rid of the red tape. We have an emergency on our hands, right? Clear any of that stuff out of the way that might be moral hangups, legality, possible death. Let's give this thing an emergency use authorization tag.

immediately so that it can skip all the testing and just go front of line. That's what they're talking about doing. So it shouldn't be no surprise to people that COVID turned out the way it did. They talked about this for a long time. It didn't catch any of these people off guard. They've been role playing it for two decades before it came. All now it's not avian flu, but it doesn't matter. It's insert whatever new virus du jour that they're trying to scare you with.

Charlie Robinson (38:58.354)
So next person on here, they Robert Shapiro, not that one. And he was the former US Undersecretary of Commerce for Economic Affairs. And he came out and gave a presentation focused on the economic threat caused by pandemics. Now in 2005, that's a theoretical presentation. In 2025, we can just look back on what COVID did. We can talk about the economic

threat caused by pandemics, not in theoretical terms, but in actual ones. And we can take a look at things like the supply chain that was decimated and all of the aftermarket insanity that came as a result of that. realize that Robert Shapiro's speech 20 years ago was probably news to these people. But now every single person that's lived through the COVID era understands

the economic threat caused by pandemics. They don't need Robert Shapiro to explain it to them. And we also don't need to know that the government exacerbates things like that and makes it much worse than it has to be. Next person to present was Isaac Weissfuse, MD. He's a deputy commissioner of the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene. And what's interesting here was that in 2005,

and they're running this scenario, this simulation. This guy proposed telecommuting as a solution for New York City residents, right? This is really kind of New York City based, this whole workshop that they were doing, because it was focused on Wall Street and it wasn't just like it was the banks and what the banks are gonna do, but also it was the logistics of being in New York City, in Wall Street, in lower Manhattan, and having to deal with this getting in and out and...

Are we gonna be able to get to the office? Are we gonna be able to do this and that? So this is the reason why you bring in the public, the Office of Emergency Management from New York City guy into this meeting. That's the reason why they held this simulation in New York City and not in Baltimore because it obviously makes sense. You're talking specifically about New York City. It's probably the reason why bulls, bears, and birds didn't get much.

Charlie Robinson (41:24.34)
play outside of that because it wasn't a global preparation event. It was New York City preparation event. But they had global undertones, of course, because you're talking about the banks and anywhere the banks go, it's global. But it was also specific to like New York City itself. How are we going to keep this system running? Are we going to be able to get you guys to work? Are the lights going to be on? Are the computers going to run? You know, what's this going to look like when everything has happened? He talked about so so.

Isaac Weissfuse is proposing telecommunications as a solution. That's 2005. This would be like, let's all get on a conference call, maybe. But it's not gonna be Zoom or Skype at this point. It's not gonna look anything like that. It's not gonna be FaceTime. That technology didn't exist in 2005, but it does now. And of course, telecommuting, Isaac Weissfuse, MD.

You were right over the target. You were correct. This is exactly a solution to this. Telecommunion was the answer during COVID. We saw that. He talked about online transactions and self-service options instead of in-person. So he's already thinking about this. And they also have something called the Health Alert Network, which is a group of doctors that he mentioned that was local inside New York City. So.

They brought in another guy to talk about this, a guy named Klaus Stor. And this was the World Health Organization out of Geneva. This was the Department of Communicable Disease Surveillance and Response Project Leader, another crazy long ass title on your business card, from the Global Influenza Program. Man, that's not a program I'd want to

be on board with, but what they're doing is...

Charlie Robinson (43:22.385)
He came and his presentation was on how the World Health Organization would respond to something like this. What all the countries would do globally. So again, you have New York City specific talking points for people, how are we gonna keep lower Manhattan going? And then you also have some guy from the World Health Organization who says, right, this is what we're gonna do on a global basis from the World Health Organization based in Geneva.

also with offices in New York City as well. So we'll coordinate the response from that. Now, did we see that with COVID? We did. We saw the World Health Organization deeply get involved with global response. In fact, if they had it their way now,

The legislation that the World Health Organization tried to pass that failed a couple months ago But if they had it their way now, they would be a supra national entity above all nation states when influenza emergencies were declared and they would be tabbed as the head of the response team and that in doing so if you had signed on to this legislation, which America did not, it would put you in second position behind the World Health Organization in terms of dictating policy.

meaning whatever the psychopaths in Geneva want you to do to your body, you would have to do, that order would come down, that would be above the laws in your country, which is insane. So that is the direction they want it to go, it's not there yet. They envision this. So again, not surprised that the...

Project leader from the Department of Communicable Disease Surveillance and response from the World Health Organization was there. Not surprised that. I am a little surprised his name is Klaus. It's a little too on the nose for me. Adolf would have been better. I don't know. Maybe next time. We'll see. But they were really just kind of focused on what the World Health Organization would do. Like what's our response gonna be? Next person on this list who's talking was a guy named David Fedson. He's a former

Charlie Robinson (45:34.471)
director of medical affairs, Aventus Pasteur MSD. So it's a big pharma company. And his talk focused on issues surrounding vaccine supplies during a pandemic. Remember I said that the ultimate goal is vaccines. The solution is vaccines. You just work backwards. So what David Fedson was talking about was that he said the world back then,

2005, the World Health Organization only had 12 people working on global pandemic preparedness, which seems a little low when you're the World Health Organization. I what else are you working on? But his talk pushed the development of an antigen sparring vaccine and changes to the FDA to allow it to be fast-tracked. So again, they're already talking 20 plus years ago.

They're already talking about how do we get these vaccines fast-tracked? You know, I know it takes 10 years and takes all this approval and we gotta go through, you know, we have to test it on people to make sure it's safe and all those stupid things that they make us do. But what if we could just force it to market like really quick, right? And so this is what they're talking. He's saying, look, the FDA needs to allow it.

we need to have the FDA on board. Like when we get into an emergency situation, we can't have you guys fucking around taking 90 days or 290 days or whatever it is to look at our application. This has to happen immediately. In fact, frankly, we're just gonna need to, we will go around you if we have to. So he said, we gotta get nine companies to work together and resolve intellectual property issues. This is what he said. said,

The problem is that we have IP issues, intellectual property issues with these vaccines, right? And if we have a situation like a, know, avian outbreak, now we've got business issues kind of clouding our judgment, like who owns this and who owns that and who's gonna make money on this and who's gonna make money on that. And what he's saying is that we need to get these nine companies together. And I don't know which nine he specifically mentioned, but he said he needed, he said that there were nine companies in his mind. I'm assuming that they were

Charlie Robinson (47:55.636)
represented there, but that's an assumption. And he says, we need to plot how to roll out vaccines in a coordinated manner worldwide. And we are not going to be able to do that if we've got these companies fighting about who owns what and everything. you know, sound familiar? Sound familiar? Like, where did they get the COVID blueprint from? I mean, it sounds just like this. Last, well, two more guys, a couple of guys.

left through her speakers. Dr. Gene Matthews, the director of public health law, he discussed issues with SARS in 2003. Now these guys are coming off of, they're just two years out of that, which was another respiratory virus, I don't know, I don't know what you want to call SARS, psychological operation, know, one of those failures to launch. It did a little bit in Asia, it made some noise, but this is all media.

It's not like the bodies were stacking up necessarily, but they'd come out of that and they're saying, well, what's the economic impact gonna be on small and medium sized businesses? Dr. Gene Matthews was talking about that because he's director of public health law and he was saying like, we need to talk about what the law is going to be for small and medium sized businesses. And I thought that was really interesting because 20 years later or 15 years later from this,

We saw what the impact would be. Small and medium sized businesses would be targeted. You know, cause they don't have a seat at the table in these negotiations. know, Bob's lumber store isn't at this event, but you know, but the head of Amazon is. So, so, you know, that's what I'm saying. A lot of decisions were made, not haphazardly. They talked about the, you have to understand,

that when COVID came and the decisions to shut down grocery stores or keep certain stores open that are deemed essential, big box retail stores for some reason, like Home Depot was open, but the lumber store down the street wasn't. And you go, God, that's so crazy. They made those decisions. But you know, times were nuts and decisions needed to be made quickly and you know, the fog of war and all that stuff. No, no, this was discussed in 2005.

Charlie Robinson (50:23.121)
what they were gonna do to small and medium sized businesses. It wasn't some accident. It wasn't the fog of war. was scheduled. It was talked about. It was discussed. They had a guy who flew in to New York City specifically to talk about this.

Peter Sandman was there, he's a PhD risk communication specialist. He used the term stakeholders, so you automatically disqualify anything he said. I mean, if you're at this meeting, automatically you know that they're up to no good, but when you hear that word stakeholders, if somebody is trying to convince you to do something or convince you to get on board with some new project or some new idea that they have for re-imagining government, and they use the term stakeholders, that is instant automatic disqualification. It means something

vastly different than what you think it does. So when I hear Peter Sandman 20 fucking years ago talking about stakeholders, which is WEF Commie speak, okay? It means something else. He's frightened. No, Peter Sandman. No, okay, understand, he's a risk communication specialist.

He thinks that frightening people is the best way to motivate action. He talks about

Now, I'm not even saying he's wrong. I'm just saying it's funny that he said that. It's ironic that he said that. Because, you know, 15 years later, when 2020 rolls around,

Charlie Robinson (52:05.801)
they will roll that same mentality and philosophy into this. Frightening people is the best way to motivate action. Is that true? Unfortunately, it is. I mean, you can tell people all day long, but if you wanna get them to actually get off their ass and fucking do something, you have to scare the shit out of them. You really do. I'm sorry, I wish it wasn't like that. wish you, some people you can reason with. Some people you can tell in advance, hey, this is coming. You need to.

plan accordingly, right? You need to make some decisions. Other people, you tell them, hey man, there's a fucking tsunami coming. Like the water isn't here at the beach anymore because it's piling out in the ocean and then it's gonna build into a gigantic tidal wave and it's gonna come in and everybody's gonna die. You could tell some people that and they'll just, it'll never click, right? They won't be able to put that together.

Charlie Robinson (53:00.883)
A lot of other people though, you're going to have to scare them to get them to move. You're gonna have to show them the tidal wave. That's the only way, conceptualizing the concept of maybe water goes away and it pools into this thing and you can't see it, but this is how the function, none of that is gonna make any sense to them. They're not gonna connect with that. The only time it's gonna make sense to it is when that tidal wave is coming right down their street. Then it's gonna be, I'm in trouble.

And they know this. And they know how we think, they know how we operate, they know how the majority of people will just sit there and wait to do what they're told. He thinks in the aftermath, this is Peter Sandman, PhD, risk communication specialist, he thinks that in the aftermath, the focus can shift to helping these people deal or cope with this fear. But it's the fear that he created. he's saying, we need to create

fear to motivate the dumb people to actually do something. And then in the aftermath, we'll help them manage the aftermath of that fear. That's what he's saying.

And I would love to say that Peter Sandman is wrong.

Unfortunately, he just is better at describing human psychology than most people are willing to accept. And the truth is that as awful as it is for him to say that, his job was to go there and deliver a message to people who actually know what the fuck is going on. Which is the reason why he said, the best way to motivate people is to terrify them. Because everybody sitting in that meeting knows that he's right. And they're also part of that.

Charlie Robinson (54:51.016)
And this is about terrifying people, to motivate them to take action. Now the trick is to make them take the action that you want them to take. Now of course, in this case, the action that they want you to take is to vaccinate yourself. That's it, that's what they want you to do. which is the reason why they bring in all these people to talk about the different ways in which they're going to manage

this emergency that they themselves created. They brought in the director of regional continuity, Deutsche Bank, Singapore, and this guy named Kenny Sau. He suggested that banks define what he called trigger points for when contingency plans should be operated. So it's like...

Banks need to know when they're... The irony of a guy from Deutsche Bank talking about trigger points and continuity. It's like, bro, your bank is a house of cards that is rigged with detonators, ready to go down, and a guy leaning on the plunger. And you're going to talk about continuity? I don't know. So anyway, we'll wrap with this because there were some solutions.

And of course, they're not good ones, But the solutions to these tabletop exercises are always more vaccines, always and faster, right? More vaccines and faster. And the only question is the distribution channels, right? How are we going to get them to the people in a timely manner? And so Thomas Ingallsby will make sure of that. he's the guy in charge of that.

He's got a background in infectious disease trainings from Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, Bloomberg School of Public Health. They were the king of the lockdowns. If you recall, this was the group that instigated the lockdowns. And his background, know, Thomas Inglesby, the guy who's creating all of these things, DARPA, Event 201, Atlantic Storm, Catastrophic Contagion, which was African kids with vaccines.

Charlie Robinson (57:19.591)
Operation Dark Winter featuring Steven Seagal. No, wait. I feel like Steven Seagal. Did Steven Seagal ever do a movie called Operation Dark Winter? Because if he didn't, he should. And I'm almost convinced that every movie he's ever done has three names, three words in it. It's marked for death. It's the same thing. OBDM did a great bit on this.

I think anybody who wants to get more information on Steven Seagal should definitely be listening to our Big Dumb Mouth podcast, the funniest podcast in the world. But I noticed this with Operation Dark Winter. I was like, man, I feel like, did I rent that on DVD? Is that the one where Seagal's fat or is that a different one? I don't know. They're all blurring together for me. but look, the reason why I bring this up and the reason why we talk about

bulls, bears, and birds in these simulations, in Atlantic Storm, in Event 201 and all this is because it's very unusual that you get the co-conspirators to all sit down in one place on camera, announce themselves, and they don't have, you they're not wearing masks and doing it with a straight face, presumably because they think there'll be no repercussions for this. But these people are deeply involved in plotting what happens to this planet. And these scenarios of global pandemics are

mostly horse shit invented by the people like this that have controls over the methods of distributing the news to you. They control what you see and how you feel about what you see. And they're also deeply involved in the medical industry so they can convince you into operating against your own self-interest simply by scaring the shit out of you. And if you think that's not a strategy, literally the risk communication specialist said he thought it was the great strategy. So it's definitely what they're doing. So if you're like,

you know, feeling a little bit fearful because of all this, just to understand they want you to feel that way. They want you to feel that way. And this is where the co-conspirators lay out their plan, where they establish the hierarchy, the chain of command for how this is gonna roll out, and they conspire to commit global mass murder, and then the subsequent cover-up. mean, are the, you know, people talk about conspiracy theorists and everything.

Charlie Robinson (59:43.003)
these people get together and conspire? Yeah. All the time, actually. And they leave meeting notes and there's videos of it and you'd think they'd be secret about it. But they're not because it's right out in the open for anybody with the eyes to see it. And so for any of your friends out there, family members that want to debate you on this and tell you, you with your ideas and your conspiracy theories and you can

watch the video of event 201. And I know this because I've watched it. So this is not conspiracy theorizing, this is conspiracy analysis and the information is there for those that have the eyes to see it. But I think that when they get together in these groups, what they're really saying is, the best way to kill large groups of people and depopulation and eugenics is

always at the core of this, is to blame it on nature. You know, let's make it look like it's not us. It's just these random wild viruses that mutate and then boom, the right sort of circumstances come together and you're in a bat market, a wet market in Shanghai and next thing you know, you know.

You had low vitamin D and you ate that, you took that bat home and you ate it and then you start feeling a little sick and then everybody in your building got sick. This is the bullshit sales pitch that they will use to scare you. But they love it because as long as it's random virus out there that's killing people indiscriminately, you can't pin it on them, of course, right? That's the cover story. And it's important to always have a cover story.

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