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Yeah, yeah, and it's gonna it's. This is not the last either, because you are so over the target. I want to talk about your new book. Um, I want to talk about before we start to talk about your new book and the content of your new book, I want to start with with what you said on one of the first pages of your new book with regard to AI, and this is the first time I've seen it, and I thought it was brilliant. And I'd like you to just mention what you put in there about that. Sure. I made a declaration that there was no AI used in the writing, in the research, or even in the illustrations of this book, because I just want to make that clear. I think going forward, people are going to be we're already in a world actually where it's going to be very difficult to tell what is real and what is and what isn't. And so I think it's going to be a real benefit to to readers to know, okay, this was actually researched by a human, fully written by a human. You know, for what that's worth, you know, there's always going to be maybe human error, but I know that there's no machine in this. Like I can actually trust. Okay, this is a human document. And that's going to be pretty rare because going forward, I mean, there's people are using AI for everything. Yes. And I am in the process of writing another book, and I'll probably be in the process of writing another book every year forever, you know, but this will always be in my mind, and this will be in the new book. I will, I will do, I will take your lead on this and also declare that no AI will have been used in my book that I'm working on as well. This is um, it's just unfortunately the direction that we need to go. And I think I agree with you that people, if it's human and human element, and the human error potential enters that. And that's fine. And I think people are willing obviously they don't want errors in the book, but if they get one and it's a human related error, they can relate to that and understand that. Whereas if you're starting to get computer related or AI related errors, then it doesn't, then it doesn't feel like an accident. It maybe feels like it's intentional, and that opens up a whole can of worms. And so I just wanted to make sure that before we even get started, that anybody who is looking to buy your new book, The Cult of the Chosen Ones, should do so knowing this in advance, because I think this is, um, I think that this is going to be something that people are going to need to incorporate. So good on you, man, for doing it. And of course, I'm not surprised that you wrote this book without the use of AI. I would expect nothing less. But and it's sad that we have to declare now that it's not done that way. But but we do so. So I'm glad you did that. And, and let's, let's talk a little bit about this, because the subtitle the Subheadline to the book Who Killed JFK, did nine over eleven and threatened to rule the world. And that'll get you. That'll get you hooked in there. So can we talk a little bit about the origins? I know this is not your first time writing about these subjects. You've done extensive work on Sabbatai and Frankism and things like that. So I'm not surprised that you're you're down. But this one, this book is extremely detailed. So how'd you start on this? Well, like you said, I've been researching all this stuff for a very long time now, but I just got it in my head that I really wanted to, to just connect it all because I kind of started to realize, okay, wait a minute. There's there's actually one group that's behind all this, like, forget all this kind of distraction about, oh, you know, it's the Nazis or it's it's the Masons or it's the Vatican. And like, we're always being led around, like, by some, some bad group that we have to keep investigating. I'm like, wait a minute. You know, it's it's actually just one group. And they're incredibly good at setting up all these decoys and creating all these enemies and just totally confusing and deceiving everyone. And when I started to realize, wait a minute, it's really just the same group that killed JFK that did nine over eleven. Oh, that also did the Holocaust. And oh, wait, they also caused World War two and World War one. And okay. All right. So I started to kind of realize we need to tell the whole story from the start as much as we can. I mean, I mean, from the start, what does that mean? You know, you can you can go back ten thousand years, but I, I tried to pick the trail up, you know, maybe a couple of thousand years ago somewhere in the Middle East and desert and go from there and just kind of bring it down as, as logically as I could, in chronological order of how this cult arose, how they started to grab power. And then, you know, we can trace it more in the last two hundred years. There's a lot more evidence then of like how they actually created movements and created events like revolutions and wars. And of course, you know, then we get into more recent time, then we really have a lot of evidence with like the Gaza genocide or whatever. And, um, I just wanted to kind of tell the story and just bring it all together for people. Yeah. You know, I noticed when I was reading the book, you can you mentioned chronological order. I mean, I was I was looking at this and I was going, you know, if if you were somebody that who was prisoner of the moment and really only interested in the current iteration, current actions that were going on, you could read this book backwards. You could start on the back of it and read it, read the last chapter, and then move to the chapter before it and do it like you're watching the movie memento and go backwards if you wanted to. The way it's laid out is we're going to start with the old stuff and we're going to work our way to the new stuff. But if you if you are, you know, comfortable understanding the new stuff, you can just dig in and read about that at the very back of the book and then say, wait a second. Well, wait, if because that's kind of how people their minds work like you go, wait a second. If if nine over eleven was a lie, then what about this? And what about that and what? And you start to work your way back down that chain of events. Like, I know that this current thing is a lie. What about the thing right before it? Oh, that's a lot. What about the thing right before that? Mhm. Keep going, keep going. Keep. And so as you kind of in your mind backtrack and go Holy shit. Wait. It might all be a lie. It occurred to me that with your book the way it was written, um, not that anybody's going to actually try and read it backwards, but you could because the of the of just the way it's laid out in the chronological order of it all. So where where should we start? I guess you want to start in the thousands of years ago in the desert and, and where this came out and because, uh, for, for anybody that's that wants to to to really understand this I mean, this connects so many dots. So I guess let's just start wherever you want to start and, and go from there. Yeah. I mean, I noticed when I, when I do my videos on my website, I always get more views when I, when I dissect current events. But for me, I'm just a real history buff and I want to understand, like, how the hell did we get to this point? You know, I'm always kind of asking myself that. And so that's that was part of what prompted me to write this. I'm like, how, you know, how do we get to this point where Congress is controlled, governments are controlled, the media is controlled, education is controlled. We can't even, like, speak against this cult or like we're accused of hate speech or we're censored. Like, how did they get so much power and get to this point of incredible power? Like. And also, once you understand what they did in the past where we can, like, dig through a lot of the documents, or we have the whistleblower testimony and we can kind of deconstruct it, then you realize, well, wait a minute, if this is how they laid out this revolution or operation or assassination in the past, why aren't they doing the exact same thing today? We just don't maybe have all the information because it's still declassified or whatever. But for sure, they're using the same template, they're using the same methods. So let you know. Like that's why I find the study of history so rewarding and not like mainstream history, like as you taught in class with like, you know, the mainstream story or just the dates, but the actual like conspiratorial view of it. Like what actually happened, how the conspirators gathered together and how they did it. That's to me, that's always been really fascinating, how they keep a lid on it, too, and keep it going for so long. I think the compartmentalization, the secret society component of this, the religious overtones, all of it kind of makes this tribe very insulated. And in some ways, you know, boy, I wonder, like, you know, in some parts of the Middle East, the problem of the insulation rears its face in inbreeding, like in the Muslim community, massive inbreeding. Is that a problem in the Israeli, in the Jewish community as well? Because it is a very insulated group. I wonder if, uh, if in doing that, over the years, uh, you wind up kind of the downside is that boy, you know, once you fish from the same gene pool over and over and over again, mental retardation, uh, psychological, problems with people. I mean, people who are in the Middle East region are massively inbred. Sorry. I'm not trying to be disrespectful to people. It's just science. It's just it's just history. So I wonder, did that have anything to do with this? We've got a really tight knit cult there. Honestly, I don't know. I haven't come across that so much with, with like the, the sabbatean frankists and the inner core of Judaism. But I have heard about that, obviously with the British royal family and other royal families of Europe. Uh, well, let's let's talk about let's talk about World War One then, or like kind of like the lead up to to this because it's funny. Well, it's not funny. It's it's a war. It's horrible. But you you I had this vision. I mean, I, I was taught the official story of World War One and what sparked it. And, you know, the thing about World War One, that really kind of Makes me fearful for where we are today. I'm trying to draw some sort of parallels. I'm looking like where we are now, what was going on in the past, and do I see any parallels, the parallels I see between World War One and where we are now was the was the security arrangements that these countries had, these, uh, protection deals with their neighboring countries? Like, if we get attacked, you got to jump in, and if you get attacked, we'll jump in to protect you. And what starts is this small kind of regional skirmish in Europe, balloons into this massive world war simply because of the security arrangements that these countries have with each other. And now I flash forward, I go, that's crazy. I can understand how that could be like a domino effect. You attack one person, next thing you know, it's a gang fight. You know, everybody's in, everybody's called their neighbors and say, you got to come help me. We're in it now. I worry about that for World War three. Right. So here we are. We've got the Middle East, uh, hot pot kicking off, and we've got the same sort of thing. What happens if somebody attacks Israel? Then America has to get in. Well, what happens if someone attacks Iran? Well, then Russia has to get in like they have security agreements with each other. And so I'm trying to take a look at where we are now, where we might be going, and look at the past and see if there's any indicators of this, like what was your take on on how World War One started, like the official story of how it started and what kind of maybe really was going on below the surface that that triggered it. Yeah. It's a it's a really interesting question. Great thing to, to learn about. So basically I feel like there's a couple of motivating factors. One is that this, this group of sabbatean frankists who, uh, you know, are the key cult that's within Judaism. Um, and, you know, maybe I should talk a little bit about that before I answer the question. Just make sure just preface what it is and what it is. So basically what happened was that we had a fake messiah arise in the sixteen hundreds called Sabbatai Zevi. And, um, he was he was in, like, the Ottoman Empire area. He claimed himself to be the Messiah and his deal was that he said, I'm going to invert everything. Um, you know, in the times of the Messiah, all the normal, normal moral rules get inverted. So on, uh, feast days of feast, days of fasting, we're going to feast. And he also just took that just normal kind of moral behavior. Inverted sexual norms. Started having orgies. Um, you know, just he was he was like, basically a very, very charismatic guy. A lot of people didn't follow him, but apparently he had half the world's Jews following him at the time. And eventually he got to, um, got to the point where the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire said to him, okay, either you convert to Islam or we're going to kill you. So he converted, and a lot of his followers became disillusioned, but actually a lot of them said, oh, you know, this is where we're going. We're going to still follow him. And he had a like a PR man called Nathan of Gaza who spun all this and said, you know, this is what the Messiah is meant to do. He's he takes on other forms and, and from from this whole thing. We get the idea of a crypto-jew or a hidden Jew, where people are one thing on the outside and something else on the inside. And this is a key characteristic of this cult that they they infiltrate and they pretend that they're one thing on the outside, and then really, they have a loyalty or allegiance to something else on the inside. And so it comes from Sabbatai Zevi. Um, but basically, you know, he was getting into some definitely weird things. It's hard to say exactly how evil he was, but the guy that came after him, Jacob Frank, was an absolute psychopath. And we have more information on him. And he used to do things like pimp out his daughter, rape his daughter, get his daughter to convert followers, and he took it to to the extreme. He was like, I'm going to do every evil thing I can because only then, you know, can we be saved. It's salvation through sin. That was a philosophy. It's completely, um, batshit crazy. It makes no sense. But that's what these guys were into. And they had a lot of followers, right? And, um, and if you just think, oh, this is just some fringe cult, you know, like the world's full of these things. Well, where it gets really bad for humanity. Is that Jacob Frank? He ended up, you know, he was born in Poland. He went to Turkey. That's where he kind of took over, sabotage his followers. But he ended up in Germany and he ended up in Frankfurt, which is the same city where the Rothschilds were, and they were just coming to power. And so the head of the Rothschild dynasty, Mayer Amschel Rothschild and Jacob Frank, crossed paths and they form some kind of alliance. And by then the Rothschilds had already started to fool the whole world with their paper money trick. And they were sending, he was sending out his sons to the five European capitals to start the international banking system. And so he had money. He was funding Jacob Frank, and the satanic ritual that they were doing. This was happening in the late seventeen hundreds. It's also around the time when Rothschild was funding Adam Weishaupt, who was a Jesuit who started the original order of the Illuminati in seventeen seventy six, the same year that the US was founded. And and then basically we had this explosion of this, this crypto-jew Sabbatean Frankism infiltration, infiltrating the Vatican, infiltrating Freemasonry, which by then was the world's largest secret society, and Weishaupt is said to have written in his diary, well, you know, Freemasonry would be an ideal secret society to infiltrate. It's already set up. It's kind of accepted in society in some degree. If we could just infiltrate that and get to the highest degrees, we could just take over that order. And that's what they did. It only took them around ten years or so. And then the highest Masons were actually Illuminati members. Um, and they were they were, um, not whatever Freemasonry was or wasn't before then at that point, it then became a vehicle for this, um, sabbatean frankism Satanism, basically. And so this was by eighteen hundred, like, this was the state of affairs in the world. And they were they were already started, you know, infiltrating and had control of the monarchies and the royal families in Europe. And so when we when we kind of look at the what, what happened with World War One, I mean, if this was a state of affairs in eighteen hundred, you know, they they had another century to consolidate their power and their wealth and their control over everything. By nineteen hundred, they were looking they had set their sights well and truly on world domination, and they realized, okay, the way to do that is through this formula of order. Um, sorry. Um. Problem. Reaction. Solution. Order! Out of chaos. The Hegelian dialectic. And so they wanted to create war with a lot of countries. Well, how do they do that? Well, they set up secret alliances. So they started getting control of certain key people in the British government, in the governments. And see, the way this conspiracy runs is you don't need to control everyone. You know, some some people that are new to this are like, well, how could they have done that? They would have needed to have controlled, you know, thousands of people. It's like, no, it doesn't it doesn't work like that. Because a lot of organizations, whether they're businesses or government, are very centralized. And if you control just a few key people at the top, you can actually sway the whole organization and you can push it in a certain direction. And so, um, even James Corbett did did, um, research on this point. He found that basically there was a secret alliance that was entered into between Britain, France and Russia somewhere around nineteen oh five, nineteen oh seven, in this area. And it wasn't it definitely wasn't reported to the parliaments of those respective countries, and maybe not even to all the cabinet members of all those countries. And so this was a very secret thing that they had in place. And they probably did a similar thing with Germany and Austria-Hungary and all of this. So they were just laying the foundation, as you said, with all these like alliances, so that they could become entangled when, um, war actually broke out. So that's, that's one thing. And then see, the background to that is that the British Empire was getting progressively worried about a rising Germany, because Germany had unified and become a country in eighteen seventy one. And, you know, the Germans are just a very technical, engineering, scientific, intellectual race. And so they had started to like, make very good products and even even challenge the British in certain areas of technology and even in naval technology. They were on the cusp of of beating the British. And this, this scared the daylights out of the British because they were used to their supremacy. They were used to sailing around the world and conquering China and India and all these other colonies. And they saw the Germans rising up and they were like, okay, if we don't do something about this, we're going to be playing second fiddle to these guys, which was unacceptable to them. And see, they had already all these societies like the Royal Society of this and that. And one of them was they had this guy called Mackinder who was a professor. And Mackinder's theory was that if you controlled the heartland, meaning Eurasia, you would easily control the rest of the world, because it was like the world island connecting Europe, Africa, Asia. And so they kind of realized that they needed to have control over Russia, or at least they at least needed to keep Russia on their side or, you know, somehow in a friendship with them or ideally, you know, mastering Russia in some way. What they didn't want was Germany and Russia to form an alliance. They were deadly scared of that because they they realized Russia had all these raw materials, all the big land army, a lot of strength. Germany had this technological know how. And they, they, they just figured, well, if they if those two form an alliance, they're going to basically be the king of the world. So they they engineered it so that Russia would be on their side with France, and Germany would be on the other side, and they would defeat Germany in a war, and they would sever any possible German-Russian alliance. That was that was a huge motivating factor. The other factor was that they were already hatching the plot to, um, create their own country because they weren't just content with, like controlling the media and the governments and all these Western European countries in the US. And so Palestine was selected as, as the place. And they realized that in order to do that, they would need to basically whip up, um, some, some kind of war. They would need to get the British. The British. Britain was still the world's superpower at that point. They would need to get the British to, to, you know, basically protect it or to, to launch it or to, to to give it, to give it their approval. And so it was just a very evil plan because they basically when, when World War One started, um, pretty soon maybe, maybe by around the midpoint, nineteen sixteen, Britain was on the back foot, Germany had defeated France and was was like on the ascendance and and so Britain, Britain probably should have militarily just accepted a kind of truce with Germany. But, um, these rich international Jews came into the British leadership and said, look, don't accept any peace offers with Germany. We're going to bring the US in on your side, and then for sure we're going to win. Like, there's, there's there's no doubt then with the US and you got Russia and France. There's too much for Germany. Um, but in order to do that, we're going to ask that you, um, basically grant us a little country in Palestine. And so right then, Britain was in charge of what was called Mandatory Palestine. I mean, it was just another British colony that was stolen from the local people. It's not like Britain really had any right to it, but, um, that's this is what happened in nineteen seventeen. We had Balfour, who was part of the British upper level of government. He wrote the Balfour Declaration, saying that the British government would look upon the establishment of a Jewish state there with favor and, um, and then there was a Lusitania, uh, false flag incident where that was just another one of these things that was known in advance. They deliberately did that so as to get the US into the war. And then the US came in in nineteen seventeen at the end, and a year later, World War One was over, Germany was defeated. And then we had the Balfour Declaration. And so the these rich international Jews, by the way, that most of them are just Crypto-Jews anyway, it's not like they're real religious Jews. They're using Judaism as a shield. They then got their foot in the door in Palestine, and they had to they had to kind of work at it for another couple of decades, up to World War two to kind of really, really establish it. And modern day Israel was born in nineteen forty eight. Yeah. Damn. I mean, it's it all makes sense now when you hear it like that, it all makes sense. But at the time, I mean, the the the story that we're given about history, about how what this started that boy, I just had to unlearn everything that I thought I knew about it. But these treaties that you that we were talking about, these are really diabolical because they know that that that this is like setting you could set it up so that these guys have to protect each other, and those guys have to protect each other. And if we can convince them that maybe that guy launched an attack on that guy when it really wasn't any of either of them, but we make it look like they were fighting with each other and get them into some sort of war, and then it drags everybody else in. Then we can create the chaos that will give us the excuse to, uh, bring in the order and we'll get something in the back end. So we know now, in looking in retrospect, what the goal was. They wanted that land. Uh, so here we are now. We're in twenty twenty six, and we see that there is a push for World War three. It feels like it. I mean, everybody's Netanyahu's been talking about Iran having a bomb for, I don't know, forty years. But but it's it they want that to happen. I wonder if we can look at this right now and extrapolate out what the goal is of it. What do they want? What is this future war that we haven't had yet that it seems that they want. Why? Why would they be? I wonder what they want in the aftermath of that. They've got Israel. Do they want Iran dismantled? Do they want the United States dismantled? I mean, I don't know. Well, I mean, you pointed out in one of your podcasts that the Israeli, the IDF soldiers have an arm patch and it actually has a picture of Greater Israel on it, and I know that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's staggering. I mean, when, you know, just just the kind of audacity that they have because normally they kind of hide it and they try to say, well, we're just defending ourselves or we're all about self-defense. But I mean, when you actually have, uh, you're openly bragging about, um, the future of your country that is quadruple or ten times its current size, and it involves taking over multiple other countries in the area as part of your new country. And that's your that's your, like, um, on your arm. I mean, like, it's, it's to me it's just staggering. But I mean, if we go by that, we're looking at large parts of Saudi Arabia being taken, um, all of Syria, probably all of Lebanon, because we're pushing up all the way to Turkey, um, pretty much all of Iraq, right up to the border of Iran. Um, and then also big part of Egypt, the part that they had the Sinai after the Six Day War, they they gave that back, but they want that again. And, um, I mean, you know, you have to wonder, like, why why do they want all that land? But but there also seems to be an obsession over Jerusalem and the Temple Mount. And David, Ike's opinion on this is that there are very strong ley lines that are running through that particular spot, and these guys are very, uh, you know, they they have access to technology or things that we don't understand. And so there's something about the intersection of energy on that point of Jerusalem where they want to own it and control it and harness it. I think that's a good theory. But still, I mean, it's it's it does seem to be an awful lot of obsession over one particular area. And it to me, I'm still I feel like I'm still trying to work that out. Like why they're that obsessed over not not even just Israel or Jerusalem, but one little part of Jerusalem. It's it's a good question. I don't know, it's interesting. I know they obviously they the Greater Israel Project would give them control over oil fields off offshore. It would give them control of Suez Canal, which would be, uh, you know, the Red sea. Essentially, we see what they're trying to do with the splitting up of Somalia and Somaliland and to give them access there in the Gulf of Aden to fight Yemen and counter anything going on there. So I can you can sort of see you sort of see the steps playing out here as to what they want. Um, it's I agree with you. It's crazy that they put that patch on there on the sleeve of their uniforms because it's such a it's a culture that's so filled with deception that you would you would. It's I wouldn't expect it. I would expect them to say no, no, no we're not. Yeah. We've heard of the Greater Israel Project, but you guys are all lying. That's a conspiracy theory. That's a blood libel against us or whatever sort of thing. It's like, no, now you guys have it on your on your uniform. So we we understand that that is the goal. Um, but but I don't know that Israel can accomplish that without some help from their big brother in the USA or their, uh, I guess cucked big brother in the USA. Is that the meaning of these five trips from Netanyahu so far to meet Trump? I mean, is this feels to me like it's got to be the setup, uh, for something big. Are you getting that feeling, too? I am, yeah. And what I've learned by studying Israel over the years is that whenever they have a ceasefire, it's not like, um, another country where, you know, they may actually want peace. Israel doesn't want peace. Okay. Period. Let's just put that notion to rest. They do not want peace under any conditions. The only peace they want is this peace through strength, kind of deception of like inverting the meaning of peace where they're in complete control. And so if there might be peace. But it's only because they control absolutely everything. And, um, no one, no one can do anything. That's that's not real peace. I mean, a real peace is a is a symbiosis, a kind of a win win where people exist in harmony, countries exist in harmony, where everyone has their needs met. No one feels the need to fight because there's they have good relations. They have what they need. So there's not there's not this desperation or this necessity to fight. That's that's real peace. And that's the kind of peace Kennedy was talking about, like, but but see, these these new World Order controllers like to invert the meaning of peace. And they come up with ideas like Pax Americana, peace at the point of a gun, peace through strength, which is basically just a way of saying tyranny and control. So that's what Israel wants. Um, that's that's the starting point. And when you understand that, then you can look, look at their actions and just fit them into that model. Whenever there's a peace fire, all that means is they're regrouping, they're rearming, they're coming up and recalibrating their new strategy for who they're going to attack next. Oh, okay. Like we have peace with Gaza now. Let's attack Lebanon. Oh, okay. Um, Lebanon, you know, we may be able to force Hezbollah to disarm. So while that's going on, um, let's attack Syria. Oh, okay. Um, we're attacking Syria. You know, we've got our guy in there. Um, let's just rearm and send more Mossad agents into Iran in, you know, in preparation for the next attack on Iran. Like it's there, just you can you can read them, you know, they're it's it's they're just motivated by conquest, by war, by assassination. They have their methods. Uh, absolutely. I mean, Netanyahu visiting Trump that many times. Um, it's basically just coordinating future attacks, unfortunately, because, I mean, this is what was happening with with Netanyahu's visits before the twelve day war with Iran in June two thousand and twenty five. You know, it later came out, oh, actually, they were just planning that the whole time. And Trump was deliberately deceiving Iran by pretending to negotiate and talk about this. They were just, you know, putting trying to put a round on the back foot so there would be knock, knocked off, um, totally surprised when when, um, uh, Israel launched an attack on them. Yeah. Yeah, they shouldn't be. I would think they should know this tactic by I mean, if we know it, I gotta think that the people running Iran know to maybe not trust the Israelis when they say they want peace. Uh, but it plays well in the in the press, you know, when you've got control of the US media or really global media, but but especially in the West and in the US, you have control of the media. Um, they can sell whatever narrative they want that Israel is the victim. Israel wants peace. The big bad Iranians are always trying to get them. And they're always, you know, Israel's always the victim. They're never the bloodthirsty mass murderers that they are. They try to play that. But I don't know, it feels like nowadays, lately, I don't know, the last year or so, um, the narrative has been tougher for them to manage, uh, that Israel is the victim and that and that, you know, peace through strength. I don't think people are buying that and that, you know, Iran is is only weeks away from building a nuclear bomb. And then they pull out the footage of him saying that literally every like over the course of forty years, it's been the same narrative. And now you've got the younger generation, at least here in the US, who's really turned against them. You've got the older boomers that are like, you know, I stand with Israel no matter what, and Christian Zionism, and they're our greatest allies and they're totally bought in. And then there's this whole new, younger generation that's like, these people are the worst people in the world, and we don't want anything to do with them. And it's like, oh my God. So I wonder, what do you think? And I know this is going to cause, you know, call for speculation, but what do you think happens in the future going through when you've got this massive PR disaster, which is Gaza? I mean, it's it's a, it's a, it's a mass murder factory that is being broadcast in prime time. And then you've got one segment of society that's saying there's nothing going on there. There's nothing. And even if there was, they all deserve it. And, and, and and we're the victims and people are watching it and they're going, there's not enough PR in the world that's going to fix this. I wonder, have they lost the plot? Have they lost control of the narrative with a young? I mean, we see they're trying to get the Charlie Kirk's of the world and the Nick Fuentes of the world to desperately, you know, get that group of young people on back on their side. But it feels like they're, uh, they're losing their grip on this. Does this is this cause for celebration or is it cause for concern, actually. Uh, I believe they are losing their grip, but they're also redoubling their efforts. I mean, there was a few months ago where Netanyahu was on camera saying, okay, like what the most important thing is right now is we've got to capture TikTok. We're continually working on Elon and on, you know, bringing him more into our camp and clamping, clamping down the rules on Twitter. But, um, yeah, I mean, that's that was that was the whole thing behind TikTok. And, um, you know, it's it's it's just a very interesting cultural moment because I absolutely see what you're talking about. I even saw a clip recently of Dave Chappelle, and he was just joking around saying, you know, when when I've really been co-opted and when they've really got me. And you shouldn't just listen to anything I say after this is when I say the following code word. I stand with Israel and I thought, wow, you know, even Dave Chappelle gets it and he's, you know, he's talking about this to his audience. I mean, I think we've really reached a point where there's like a mass, there's like a lot of awareness over this. Finally, at this time in history and a lot of, a lot of focus on Israel's crimes and its criminality. So that's, that's to me, that's a really positive sign. They're going to push back any way they can. They're going to keep paying influence seven thousand dollars. They're going to keep uh, I think I think I predict more more of these organizations are going to come to light, like Turning Point USA, which turned out to be just a mossad operation from the very beginning. Yeah. Like the more and more we unravel that whole thing, we're like, okay, wait a minute. There were Mossad agents right from the start that were like, uh, directing it. I mean, we've got all all of Erica or Erica Kirk's connections to Mossad. Um, Israeli security was was in charge of Charlie Kirk. I mean, that whole thing was an Israeli operation. So if that was what other operations are I mean, we know that they've got more of an affinity for the political right than the political left. So what are the right right leaning organizations? Have they already not even infiltrated, but actually just, you know, funded, created from the ground up? I mean, there are probably a lot of them, and I imagine more are going to come to light, um, you know, in the next five to ten years. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's it's been it's been interesting to watch people open their eyes to this, but I, I treat, I think of Israel like a, like a dangerous animal that's cornered. And if they feel that their PR campaign is, is going badly and that, uh, they are being. Perceived by the general public as being the bad guys, they have a long track record of doing something awful to make themselves appear to be the victim. And this is why I'm actually more concerned. I mean, I'm always a bit concerned with with what Israel is doing, of course, but when you when they feel that there's not enough seven thousand dollars payouts in the world to paper over this or that, some you know that that that's about the time when a false flag happens against them, that's that's perpetrated by their enemies. And then now the enemies could change. It could be some people online that were talking about this. It could be, you know, whatever. Just use your imagination. The noticing, the great noticing anybody who's a part of that, uh, they say, well, they're the ones that did this horrible thing against us, the Jews. And we have to be, you know, we're here we go as the victims again. So I'm I'm worried I'm worried about World War Three, of course, and in whatever sort of that becomes in the Middle East. But but that won't impact me directly because I don't live in the Middle East. In America, I believe that something bad will happen in the same way that something bad has happened in the past when Israel wasn't getting their way. JFK nine over eleven. You know what is the next one? The next one will be something. And because I don't think that these are the types of people that will go, oh, we lost, we'll give up. You beat us, you know. No, they're going to double down. They're going to come up with new, new ways of, uh, pushing this. I'm, um, I'm I'm just I'm just I'm I'm I'm simultaneously optimistic because people are starting to wake up to this. But unfortunately, given my knowledge of how they operate, waking up to this now is going to create a brand new problem, because I don't think they're going to go down without a fight, and this might be the control of the media. We already you mentioned TikTok, saw that that happened. They got Larry Ellison in there. Got that real quick. Now we're starting to see the HBO Warner discovery. You know, all these mergers that are that are talking about. And we thought that was done. Well, here comes Larry Ellison's kid again to get involved. Got ultimate unlimited money. He could spend whatever he wants on it. And you see them trying to, like, get control of the narratives wherever they can. So I'm, uh, I don't know. It isn't a question. I'm just saying I'm optimistic on the one hand, and I'm a little bit nervous on the other hand because of their track record. Yeah, absolutely. I can see what you're saying. I mean, look what just happened with the the Australian Bondi Beach shooting in Sydney. Perfect. You know, Australia doesn't do exactly what they want. Um, they recognize a Palestinian state, which, by the way, you know, it's still it's still kind of a token gesture because while that's happening, Australia is still manufacturing parts that end up in the IDF or F-35s or whatever. But anyway, um, it's something and um, and then Netanyahu comes out and, you know, starts, you know, dissing the Australian prime minister, uh, and then Mossad, um, very, very graciously tells the Australian intelligence, oh, you know, we have a tip that Iran was involved in, um, the bombing of a of a Sydney synagogue and a Melbourne synagogue and whatever. Thanks. Thanks for that. Mossad. That's so nice of you to tell us that that information and Australia just seems to fall for that. And then and then Netanyahu warns, oh, if you don't change your ways, you know, I predict there's going to be a rise in anti-Semitism in Australia. And then there's the Bondi Beach shooting. I mean, it's just so it's such a predictable playbook at this point, and there are a lot of people that are that are seeing it, how predictable it is. But there are also a lot of people that are just totally falling for it. Yeah. Um, you know, I see this polarity everywhere. Um, yeah. So I mean, that's their trick, you know, that's that's I feel like they've just done it over and over and over again. They'll keep doing it. Um, operations, like killing a president and doing a nine over eleven. They take decades of planning, and I wonder, I wonder whether there is another one in the works or not. I mean, I don't know, um, it feels it feels like they have the US military still pretty under their control. I mean, you know, even just in the last few weeks, there's been reports of audits that weren't done on the Pentagon. It's always failing its audits. And what happened? Oh, there's all this unaccounted for money. Oh, where did it go? Oh, it went to Israel. Oh, okay. Yeah. Surprise, surprise. Yeah, yeah. I'm, uh, you know, but but we look we look back on this, uh, on, like, the cycles and the patterns and how things get the way they get. And we saw, like with, with Germany. Germany gets put through hell in the aftermath of World War one and just really down on their luck for the next two decades or so. And then, and you create the conditions, um, for somebody to come to power that says, you know, Germany used to be great and, you know, we got to make Germany great again. And, you know, and we and we know what the problem is. It's them. And you should put me in a position where I can get them out of here. And then if I do that, then everything will be good, right? And I see the same kind of pattern forming here right now. Like, what if things got so bad that in America or elsewhere, but in America? I'll just use that as an example. That someone came someone came to power and says, you know who the real problem is in the US? It's them. And if you elect me, I'll go after them. And everyone goes, oh my God, you're the next Hitler. I feel like this is we're getting walked into this because the general public being allowed to notice this and talk about it and see it almost feels a little bit like we're walking into a trap that that where you've had decades, where you're not allowed to criticize them for anything that they do, and now all of a sudden people are allowed to criticize them. My fear is that they are quietly, silently looking at everybody who's criticizing them, adding them to a big, gigantic list somewhere. And then when the time is ready, they go and they say, all you people that were critical of them, you're all on the list. And we put you in the camps somewhere, you know? I mean, am I am I crazy for thinking, for thinking this? Or am I just, you know, looking at a pattern of behavior over time and extrapolating forward? Well, there's lots of these, you know, Jewish activists, these Zionist organizations that are doing things like that, but they even get pushed back online. You know, there was there's an organization called Betar, and they started, I don't know, they they were saying, hey, we need to make lists of everyone that like, I forget what it was even maybe like supports a mass or supports Gaza. And then people were pushing back online and going, hmm, Jews making lists. Does that seem like a good idea to you? Um, but I one thing I want to stress among, you know, all of this stuff, and I tried to make this clear in my book, is that when we look at this whole issue, we have to realize it's really just an inner core of, of Judaism that are totally using the shield of Judaism to get away with their Satanism and their criminality. And it's it's not all Jews. It's not even all Israelis. It's it's it's definitely the people that are in the inner core are so ruthless and evil they will sacrifice Jews for their cause. So Jewish people, more than more than anyone, need to understand this and not get used by this, because Netanyahu is always at pains to say, oh, we represent the Jewish people. But no, they don't. They represent their own interests. They don't really don't care about Jews. And look at how they treated Israeli society during the Covid pandemic, when they invited Pfizer in and treated them like lab rats and like wanted to harvest all their data and vax them five to ten times. And all of this, and Israel was totally pushing out this whole thing where you can't go to the gym, you can't go to the movies, the grocery store unless you have a vaccine pass. They were they were pushing that out hard. Yeah. Um, so they don't care. They don't they don't care about ordinary Jews and, um, uh, like, we we if we can get this point across, this will hugely help the great noticing, because that ordinary Jewish people are going to be like, wait a minute, don't do this in my name. And they're going to start to tell all the other people in the Jewish community, and it's going to start to become clear, actually, who it really is. This, this inner cult that's that's using them. And I just want to touch briefly on the Holocaust here because this is this is what happened to the Holocaust. They they were basically collaborating with the Nazis. The top Zionists and Nazis were in communication and, and right, right throughout, actually, the rise of the Nazis from nineteen thirty three, when Hitler got in power, there were certain Zionist organizations that were somehow immune to all these German laws. So. So Hitler was like, it's the Jews. And yet there were certain Zionist magazines and organizations that were left in peace, even as like all the communists and homosexuals and the rest of the Jews were like imprisoned or discriminated against or whatever, like there was a certain segment that wasn't. And then and then suddenly when it got to like, you know, nineteen thirty nine and the war to to nineteen forty five, those six years. Okay, there were there were a lot of Jews that were being rounded up, but not not this cult. No. This cult somehow managed to escape all of that, and they managed to make deals with the Nazis where they would sacrifice. I put out one example in my book. Hundreds of thousands of Jews from rural Hungary were taken to concentration camps, but these top Zionists were sent on trains and got out of Germany and went to Palestine. And, um, and top Zionist leaders, many of them, not just a few, are on record saying the Holocaust is good. We need it. We want to sacrifice as many Jews as possible to engender sympathy for our Palestinian project, to take over the land there. This is the goal. And even even Jewish rabbis were like, yeah, these, this we need this. This is a sacrifice. Like this is the anointing of our new project, the blood of the ordinary Jews to to like, bless the birth of Israel. Like this stuff is sick and and when people really realize this. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Like these guys, these guys are like the the wolf in sheep's clothing. They're pretending they're Jews, but they're like, advocating for the sacrifice of Jews. I think that will be a real game changer when we can get that point across. Yeah, I think it's it's a really good point. It's important for, for for the average Jewish people to know this isn't. This isn't us against you this. You're being used by these, by these people inside your religion that are using it as a shield to deflect criticism, to make it look like something else. And they're very skilled at what they do. They've been doing it for hundreds of years. And to infiltrate these societies. I mean, God, you just look at the Fabian Society's logo. The wolf in sheep's clothing is literally their logo. And you go, oh, they would never do that. It's they're telling you they're doing it. This is in fact, that's the that's the best way to do it is to infiltrate. So so when you look back on World War Two and you go, God, they rounded up all these Jews and they were so bad with it, like, well, who was helping to coordinate that high level Jews, high level Zionists within that we're, we're saying you can sacrifice these people. You can take those people. We're not interested in Madagascar. We know what we want. We want Palestine. And, and and we also know much in the same way that we can know this in modern terms with the world, the first World Trade Center bombing that killed, what, four or five people? Maybe six people. Not enough of a body count. Buildings didn't come down. Hard to sell. Hard to sell. The new World War in the Middle East when the building didn't even fall down. But then you get the next nine. The actual World Trade Center that took it down. And you get the body count that you need, which is a horrible thing to say, but that is the way they look at it and that becomes the justification. So you've got to have you can't just have some people getting shot by the side of the road during World War two to garner sympathy, you have to have some form, or at least a story of a mass culling of a certain group of people to garner that sympathy. And then if you've got that, you can do anything right. They can do once you've got the sympathy. And God knows the Jews have been using the the shield of the Holocaust to deflect criticism for the last eighty years on the stuff that they've been involved in. So they're no better than the people who set them up for this, because they're now doing it themselves, saying, oh, the Holocaust, the Holocaust, this and that. And you go. My my grandfather escaped from three concentration camps. You go. Shut up. All that stuff is bullshit. You guys are all lying about this. And so I, I, I, I have, um, man, I just, I think that it's important for, for people who, who are Jewish, who hear this and they go, God, you guys are so critical of of us Jewish people. It's not you. It's much in the same way. I'm I don't represent the American government. If someone said your government is awful, I would agree with them. It's not a reflection on me. If someone said the government of Israel is awful, I would hope that the Jewish people would go, yeah, I agree. Instead, they get very defensive, like it's a personal attack. It's like, I don't know, they've conflated religion with nationality. It makes it very murky. And so anytime you try to attack them for a policy decision, the deflection is, oh, you're attacking my religion. It's like, goddamn, I'm not. And they've also brought race into that. That's oh yeah. That too. Yeah. They've made this triangle. Yeah. A Gilad Atzmon talks about this. He's a Jew that grew up in Israel. And, you know, he's a saxophonist, a musician, and, um, a very good one, apparently. And and, um, he's he's spoken out against Jewish power a lot, and he's like, they deliberately, um, create this triangle and then they confuse everyone. Um, and then they deflect when they, when they want to be a race. They're a race when they want to be a religion, they're a religion when they want to be a nation, they're a nation. And it's just it's all just deflection to try to get away from actual accountability of their actions. Um, but yeah, I do I do talk in my book about how there is no Jewish DNA, and I quote several Jewish authors, Jewish professors who've analyzed the whole thing. That's that's a myth. Judaism was always a religion. It was always just describing people that had joint customs or beliefs, religious beliefs. And then they made it into this thing where they tried to, you know, make it look like they're a race and they're a nation. But no, it's a religion. Well, well, I wonder where do we where do we go from here? Because we we're I we've got this group. They're they're in they're in charge of the West. We're seeing it in Australia. We're seeing it in, in the UK. We're seeing it in here in the US. Um. What how do we how do we extract ourselves from this? Is this just is I mean, it feels very. I don't want to say I'm, I'm black pilled in this because I'm always there's always a possibility for optimism. But I'll be damned if when I look at every aspect of the control structure inside of America, I see. I see that group in charge, or I see somebody in in charge who is enthusiastically supporting that group by putting their hand on the wall or other body parts or whatever, or, you know, coming out and on their X feed, talking about nothing, about nothing But this particular group. What what what do we what do we do? You know, like the great noticing is here. People are starting to ask questions. They're maybe not liking the answers that they're getting. And they're feeling like, boy, you know, especially the people who voted for Trump. They go, you know, we voted for Make America Great Again. And really, what we meant to vote for was America First. We meant America first. But we thought that's what you meant when you said Make America Great again. And clearly that's not what Trump really meant. So there's a lot of people I don't know why they're feeling deceived by Donald Trump. I don't know how you could believe him a third time around. But still, some people did, and they believed that he was going to actually make America great again, you know, because they were trying to get him. And now he's he's on a mission and he comes into office in the very first thing he does is give away everything he can to this group. And so I don't that's why I'm saying I'm not super optimistic. I'm not totally black pilled, but I see this and I go, hmm, like, what would you do? What do we do? You know, I think I think it starts with the basics of free speech and just sharing information. And so that's that's why I decided I'm going to include a chapter in my book about the Holocaust, because it's part of the story, and I don't believe in self-censorship. And, you know, it's not maybe not the key part of the story, but but it's just another example of how this group, um, manipulates and deceives and and kills, kills people and even even its own people. Um, and, you know, I think we just need to keep sharing information as much as possible and not self-censor and not be afraid to have these hard conversations. Um, because I think for a while people were even afraid to say the word Jew like it's just a word. But yet people are like have been so kind of pushed into submission about like, racism and discrimination and anti-Semitism, anti-Semitism. And they're even afraid to kind of like, um. Think about it or talk about it. Um, even even just in settings like private settings. Um. Yeah. And so it starts with just, you know, free thought, free speech, free flow of information, um, realizing that this issue is complicated, not not falling into the trap of looking at one whole people as some big lump, some big homogenous unit, realizing that within Judaism there's lots of Jews, there's a whole span. There are Jews that, um, reject the whole chosen ones narrative, which I think is very important. And they're like, I don't believe in this, this whole ideology because it's setting me apart. It's saying that I'm somehow special or my tribe's more special than anyone else. I think all humans are equal, regardless of like race, religion, gender, anything else. And so, you know, maybe, maybe, um, they, they, they might be born a Jew or they might have been raised as a Jew, but but the fact that they're, you know, rejecting that chosen ones ideology, are they even really still, still a Jew, but they might be called a Jew. And then at the other end of the spectrum, you have these Sabbatean Frankists and these Zionists who want to like, take everything and they're completely different people, yet they're covered by one label. So there's a whole spectrum of people out there, even in Israeli society. Yes, there are a lot of Israelis who are super racist and they want the Gazans to suffer, and that is horrible. We've seen the polls, you know, sixty percent maybe even like seventy, eighty percent sometimes. But yet there are still a lot of Israelis who saw that, who know that the government is tricking them. They refuse to enlist in military service. And and they actually they went out and protested. Um, when, you know, against Netanyahu and all sorts of stuff and some of them even formed like a whole thing in Hebrew on the streets saying Hannibal government, which is a reference to the Hannibal directive, where the Israeli government killed Jewish people, killed Israelis on the October seventh false flag operation. So there are Israelis who are aware of this, that the government is doing it to this. So we just have a whole spectrum of of people here, um, under the word Jew. Lots of different levels of awareness. And it's the same in any country, in any religion. You have all sorts of different levels of awareness. So my hope is that we can we can start to kind of bring, bring awareness and bring light to this whole issue. We can share information freely. People are going to start to, to to grow an awareness on this and see, okay, there's different people. It's really just this satanic cult that's behind all of this. These are the real people that are creating fake enemies and diversions and that are driving all of this. It's really important. Yeah. I don't want people that are outside of the United States to look at me and say, you're an American. Therefore, you sign on to everything that the American government does. You know, it's you and your government. Hey, that's not it might be my government, technically, but I, I do not align with their belief system at all. And I would want people to to recognize that there's a difference between the American empire and, and a segment of the American population who's screaming, we don't want this. We're not interested in these forever wars. You know, this is not compatible with our belief system. And so I know that I feel that way about my government. And I also am always very careful to recognize that there are people inside of Israel who feel the same way about their government, and I don't want to lump them in and say that they're all in on it. Right? Because we know that that's not the case. But so many people don't know what they don't know. You know, they don't know that there's this cult behind it. They think that they've been tricked, they've been manipulated. They've been told that they need to stand with their people, because if they don't, there'll be another genocide where we'll all get wiped out, you know? So we have to come together. But but again, the Israeli government lying to their people, you know, there's no different than the American government lying to their people. You know, they all do it. If you think that if you're Israeli and you think that the Israeli government won't lie to you because you're all Jews, and you have that in common, that you're all on the same team, you're delusional. They're lying to you all the time. They hate your guts, as you said they were. They brought Pfizer in there to to inject you guys with with an unproven rush to market. Experimental gene therapy. It turned you guys into lab rats. So. So I hope that people are are not, uh, I hope they recognize that this is not a reflection of everybody in that tribe. There are people in there that do not subscribe to this insane ideology and good for them. And maybe they're going to be the ones that really help to turn the tide and convert more people to understanding this. Because sometimes when it's us and it's me in America screaming, I just sound like they can just go, oh, dismiss him. He's a he's an anti-Semite, or he's an American, or he doesn't understand what we're going through. But if it's Jews in Israel explaining to other Jews in Israel, you're being lied to, you're being manipulated, you're being made to feel a certain way about things that's not real. And I think that might have hopefully that will be an avenue that will that will, that will impact people and make them start to feel like, you know, um, the first step is awareness of this. And you better get aware of it fast, because if because the they're they're planning big things I'm hearing. I've never heard so much about army conscription. So much in my life in a variety of countries, not just America, that feels like that narrative is being seeded and drip, drip, drip. And eventually, you know, maybe a year or two years from now, it's not going to be like, should we conscript people? It's going to be, do we do it tomorrow, next week or next month? So I'm very fearful of of that sort of stuff, but I think it gets prevented in the sense from people who recognize what we're up against. And they talk about this. And that's been a real barrier to get people to actually talk about this, because it's been off limits for so many decades. But now it feels like there's a bit of a crack and people are at least starting to have the conversation. And maybe that's the first step. So, uh, let's wrap up with this. Like people who want to buy this book, people who want to buy this book for their friends who maybe don't know about these things. People who want to educate their families. People who want to educate. Maybe their fellow Jews. Hey, man, we're not all. It's not all the same side here. Uh, where would you send them to? To buy your book and to support your outstanding work? Well, best place to visit is my website, which is the Freedom Articles. Com the freedom articles dot com. I have banners at the top right right now, and I've separated out into audio book, e-book and print or paperback. And you can click on each one and it'll take you to where to buy it. Because Amazon just banned this book maybe a week ago. Uh, when I talk with Amazon, they didn't tell me why. And it's interesting because I've done books before on Satanism. I've gotten into reptilians, blood drinking, aliens, free energy devices. No, apparently all of that's fine. But, you know, um, I guess it's the Holocaust thing again. They wouldn't tell me, but, um, anyway, I'm going to I'm going to do my best to make sure this book is available in all those three forms. And if I keep getting banned off platforms, I will move to other platforms. I want this work to get out there. Um, so that's just go to my website, the Freedom Articles, and you'll find the latest place to get it. Um, here, here's what it looks like. The cover. And Charlie, I want to thank you for the for the back comment up the top there. Oh, well, it's my pleasure. And and these books are important. This information is not going to find you. You have to find it. You know, if you're into into this stuff like we are, if you're if you like these topics, uh, and you and you're you want to support McKenna's work, or maybe you want to buy this book and send it to somebody in your circle who doesn't know this, but maybe needs to know this. The freedom articles com is the place to go. I'll put a link down in the show notes. The book is called The Cult of the Chosen Ones. It's always good to talk to my good friend Makia Freeman. Great to see you, Makia. Thanks, Charlie. And if you guys want to connect with me, Macroaggressions dot io is the place to do that. You can find everything that we're working on. Thanks, everybody. We'll talk to you again soon.