Charlie Robinson (00:01.905)
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Moira Bramley (01:29.262)
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Moira Bramley (03:08.43)
Hello, Charlie. Yeah, I'm great. Thank you so much.

Charlie Robinson (03:12.497)
Well, I'm, I was connected to you by our mutual friend, Sarah Andrew, who is, you know, she came on this show and she detailed her experience with the parasite cleanse and yeah, yeah. And, and so, and I talked the day I talked to her, I was just about to start on my parasite cleanse. So was like, all right, well, this is going to be good. And hers was, was a pretty graphic and she had a lot of productivity with her, with her.

Moira Bramley (03:24.022)
Yep, she told me to.

Charlie Robinson (03:41.001)
Parasite apocalypse that she was conducting but my experience has been quite different. I haven't it's been more subtle. So I guess Whatever gets the parasites out of your body is is it's fine with me. So I'm really glad she introduced us

Moira Bramley (03:54.382)
I've actually noticed a change in her. I'm talking about actually how she is, how she bees. So it's had a major effect on her. She hasn't just been taking the parasite cleanse, so she's been taking the whole shebang, but I've noticed a difference in her.

Charlie Robinson (04:11.737)
Interesting, very, very... Yeah, well good, good, yeah. We gotta get the idea of a bunch of bugs living inside of me without paying the rent. I don't know. I'm not interested in that. I'd like for them to leave my body, please, and as quickly as possible. how'd you hook up with her? How are you guys connected?

Moira Bramley (04:22.796)
Yeah.

Moira Bramley (04:31.95)
Oh, I've known her a long time. I lived in Australia for six years. I'm in Italy now. I live in Italy now. I've lived in different countries, but I met her there in Australia and she was at the consciousness seminar that I was attending. That's where I met her. Yeah.

Charlie Robinson (04:47.027)
What's your background? Where- where- where are you- I- I- I've read a little bit about you and it sounds- it sounds fascinating but I'd love for you to just give us a kind of a, you know, how'd you get here?

Moira Bramley (04:55.382)
Ooh, what's my background? I'm trained as a psychotherapist, realised that that wasn't going to give me what I was looking for.

So basically going way back, I was born into dire poverty. mean, like not fun poverty and failed school, failed everything. Chose an entrepreneur husband who we became multi-millionaires very fast and had a couple of kids, got divorced.

been full in consciousness working on many things for 22 years now. Have a few different businesses, just started to write books, have a castle, it's a hotel and a restaurant. Yeah, lots of things.

Charlie Robinson (05:47.337)
I can't leave the castle out of this. Can we talk about the castle for a second? Because man, when I when I I is this a castle in Scotland? Is this a castle in in Italy? Nice.

Moira Bramley (05:51.907)
Yeah.

Moira Bramley (05:55.254)
No, it's initially here where I live. Yeah.

It was a friend of mine, founder of Access Consciousness, Gary Douglas, who said, hey, do you want to buy a castle with me? And I came here to look at it I'm like, it's in the middle of the countryside. How are you ever going to get this busy? And he's like, I can do this. And I'm like, it's in the middle of nowhere. And it's in Piedmontie, which is not an area that a lot of people, a lot of tourists come to, even though it's spectacularly beautiful.

Anyway, now it's busy. It's booked, fully booked a lot of the times and he actually chose this castle to create something very different. It is absolutely full of incredible antiques and some significant works of art. It is the dining room, it's like unbelievable. It's like...

the chandeliers cost, I'm not gonna tell you, but like it's all antique glasses and everything is like, you walk in there and you're like, my God, castles usually have reproduction stuff, you know, but this is...

There's no other way to describe it other than spectacular. There's a piece there and an energy that is very different from a lot of places I've been. And he has a lot of energetic capacities with the land and with a lot of things. So he's created something there that's quite magical. And I wanted to be part of that.

Charlie Robinson (07:31.669)
I was going to ask a question about the heaviness, the energy surrounding a castle. would assume that it's been there a while, maybe not the best of it. So how, when he saw that castle, did he recognize that it had the right energy or did he think he could maybe make it the right energy?

Moira Bramley (07:53.07)
Yeah, he can make it the right energy. I mean, when you go to this castle now, you're like, wow, what's different about this place apart from, you know, the design and the interior and the food is spectacular. Apart from that, you walk in there and you kind of lose time.

Not kind of, it's like it's in a it's in a time war. It's in a, you know, time disappears because there's nothing new in the castle. Everything is antique. So you walk in there and you lose time. And it's just an incredibly restful. But yeah, he has the capacity to change the energy entirely. This guy's like when I first met him.

He showed me a few things energetically and I was like, that's not supposed to be possible. So I was hooked into energy working consciousness as soon as I met him. This guy, you can walk up behind him in a conference room with a thousand people and he will go, hi Moira. Before he knows you're there, he recognizes energy to a degree that's unbelievable. He'll just go, hi Moira.

And I'm like, wow, I'm in. When I'm in, I'm like, I'm in. Yeah.

Charlie Robinson (09:12.073)
So how does this work? How does that work? The energetic... Yeah, I mean, it sounds like a neat magic trick, and I'm sure... But you know what mean? For some... But if you've got it, I'm sure it feels totally normal. How does he... Yeah?

Moira Bramley (09:17.526)
You mean energy being aware of energy? No.

Moira Bramley (09:27.916)
No, we all have it, Charlie. We all have it.

We were indoctrinated out of it. mean, you know, if you see a mother with a baby and the mother's stressed or scared, the baby will cry. It's got no language, you know, but it knows energy. You know energy. You walk into a room where there's an atmosphere, you sense it immediately. You know, if there's somebody you meet in the street or at a dinner party or whatever and they don't like you, they can pretend to be nice, but you can say,

We all know energy. If somebody says, oh my God, it's so nice to see it it's not, we know. So we all know. We choose our dates and our partners. We think we choose it based on looks and their social status and their income and all sorts. mean, maybe you don't, but a lot of people do. But we actually choose a lot of the time based on energy and we will choose what we're comfortable with.

Charlie Robinson (10:31.677)
Is that a trap to choose something that we're comfortable with? Shouldn't we be choosing something that's a little bit more, makes us uncomfortable and keeps us...

Moira Bramley (10:35.938)
Well...

Exactly, but what we do is we find somebody that has similar judgements, points of view, values than us and we kind of fit like a glove. We match.

So we will, you you've heard of people choose the same partner, kind of partner. They look entirely different, you know. Maybe somebody who's emotionally unavailable, they've chosen them again. my God, they've chosen somebody different. They just keep choosing the same type of person in a different body. It's because that's what they are asking to be with in that moment.

Charlie Robinson (11:17.129)
How do we get a handle on this? It feels very subconscious, maybe.

Moira Bramley (11:20.418)
So, yeah.

Well, the way to get clear, start to change limitations is to first recognize that you're choosing limitation. Once you acknowledge it, it will literally start to be in your face way more. If you acknowledge, wow, I keep choosing somebody who doesn't value me, for example, you know, and you keep choosing that and choosing that. First thing is to recognize you're choosing it. Wow, what is it that I

love about choosing somebody who doesn't value me. And that sounds insane. What do I love about it? But when we keep choosing the same thing over and over again, even when we say I hate this, if we keep choosing it somewhere we love it. So to acknowledge that, wow, what do I love about this? I keep choosing it over and over. And then comes, okay, enough. I'm gonna choose something different.

So the first thing is to acknowledge the limitation.

Charlie Robinson (12:25.353)
Is that what you do? You have a Becoming a Lady class in April? Is that, can we talk a little bit about that? Because I'd be fascinated to know what goes into that. Obviously I'm not going to be allowed into this class, but I'm just curious to know what goes on in-

Moira Bramley (12:29.144)
Yes, yes, yes we can, we can.

We actually are. The last class we had men. I did it at the castle and there were men in the class. Yeah. And they got so much out of it because they got to be so aware of what they were choosing and what they would like to choose. So women tend to be very controlling. They tend to...

Charlie Robinson (12:41.662)
Really?

Moira Bramley (13:07.95)
manipulate men a lot in ways that are not always kind. I'm not saying women are terrible and awful. Becoming a lady is becoming incredibly conscious of what you're choosing and what you're creating on the planet. Is this really what you want to create? It's also being willing to dominate and I don't mean in a bad way but you're willing to be whatever it takes to get what you want.

Now that sounds incredibly avaricious and greedy and like push people out the way to get what you want. No, it's learning how to be with grace. this sounds very strange to a lot of people, but a lot of us don't know how to receive. We've got these points of view about I'll receive this, but I won't receive that. I like this, but this makes me a little bit uncomfortable and this, I'm a little bit out of my depth.

And this, ooh, this is scary. So we've got so many points of view about what we will receive and what we want. So it's about the willingness to receive from way more places and spaces and people than we do. It's about a lot of things, to be honest.

Charlie Robinson (14:22.185)
Is there a common denominator there? there an age range where women find it all over? All ethnicities, all demographics?

Moira Bramley (14:25.858)
No.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We had Russians there last time. German.

Netherlands, what else? had Italy, we had people from Italy. Yeah, we had people from all over.

Charlie Robinson (14:50.729)
popular class. I'm curious. So what is the, who signs up for this? What's the type of person who signs up?

Moira Bramley (14:50.883)
Yes.

Moira Bramley (14:58.252)
People who are interested in being more and having more. Where they know that life is not enough for them. They're not getting where they want to get to in life and they're not getting what they want in life. And to be honest, a lot of us about consciousness, a lot of people come, not everybody, but a lot of people come know that a lot about this reality is a sham. And they would like to learn how to deal with life in a very different way from what we've been taught.

You know, we've been taught to use force and control and manipulation in a way that it's all me, me, me, me, me. It can be done in a way that includes everybody. To me, for me, it's one of the most beautiful, I do classes on all sorts, money, sex, all sorts, but to me, this is one of the most beautiful classes that I get to facilitate. It's about being more of you in a way that is being you, being the change that you would like to see in the world.

and getting everything along the way that you want.

Charlie Robinson (15:59.772)
in the US for the last, well, my entire lifetime, there has been a big push for the women's liberation movement, right? We're going to liberate women from the shackles of being, know, housewives or whatever. And I'm all for being whoever you wanna be, of course, but it felt very disingenuous. I found that, you know, some of the Gloria Steinem's ties to the CIA and things like that, go, okay, well, this doesn't feel...

Moira Bramley (16:08.206)
Mm-hmm.

Charlie Robinson (16:28.753)
You know, it feels very dishonest, push to... What have you found over the years? Who's happier? Are women happier in the traditional roles? I mean, it can't be one size fits all, but what have you found in this?

Moira Bramley (16:42.733)
No.

Moira Bramley (16:49.1)
Well, I have been doing a lot of consciousness classes and seminars for years and years and years. And I remember when the founder of Access Consciousness told me about 23 or 24 years ago, he did a class on trying to bring men and women together in a way that got rid of the gender and the judgments and the separation and the points of view. And...

He found that men were, he literally did a class separate with them and then brought them together. And he found that the men were very willing to let go of their points of view and they just wanted to be with women and enjoy women. And women let their points of view go too and were like, okay. And then when they came together, women turned nasty.

They went back to we don't like men and men are this and men are that. It's absolute bullshit. It's nonsense. women in the 1930s, 40s were ladies. I'm not saying they all were. And men had a place. Now men don't know what the, they don't know where they. They're like, I don't know how to be with a woman. And I'll be honest, I was brought up in a very...

rough background and I learned to be a fighter and my mother didn't like men and my father didn't like women so I was brought up in an environment fighting with the sexes. I literally believed that I didn't like men and it took me quite a few years to realize this isn't even mine it's my mother's.

So we take on board, we go back generations, you if your grandmother didn't like men, your mother doesn't like men, you're brought up in that energy and we soak it up. You know, we used to be like, maybe standing at the train station and my mother, a man would say, hi, good morning, and my mother...

Moira Bramley (18:47.234)
be an energy that you can sense it, you know, where it was like, talk to the hand, don't talk to me, stay away from me, what do you want? You know what I mean? And I was brought into the world believing that men wanted, only wanted one thing, to use and abuse you, and I'm like, wow. So, the emancipation of women is absolute nonsense, women are not tied down. They're not.

tie down. It's nonsense. Women can do what they want. It's all up here. You know, they've got this point of view of, men tie us down and men keep us. Nonsense. It's absolute nonsense. I'm going to be hated for this and I don't care.

Charlie Robinson (19:33.098)
No, no, listen, we want, I feel bad for the young men right now who are having to navigate this minefield. They don't know if the woman, the girl that they're talking to is, first of all, they don't know what gender, know, one of a hundred different genders that she feels that she is in this moment, or you don't know what sort of...

Moira Bramley (19:49.806)
in

Yeah.

Charlie Robinson (19:55.626)
media manipulation, she's dragging into this, all men are terrible, you know, I'm fighting the patriarchy and all this stuff and, you know, not even really her thoughts necessarily, just the programming. How, if you're a young guy out there, how do you break through this? mean, I wonder how you...

Moira Bramley (19:58.742)
Exactly.

Moira Bramley (20:07.149)
Yeah.

Moira Bramley (20:11.426)
Well.

I have two sons and I was absent. Both of them were boxers a while back, not now. But in Australia, my youngest son was competing in the Australian Championships and his friends were all there to watch him. And there was girls going around with trays and bunny suits on, know, in a swimming costume, et cetera. And two of his friends were sat next to me and he was really rude to the young woman who brought him a drink. And I'm like, why were you so

rude to her and he was like that's how we get them to like us and I'm like are you kidding? He's like no no the more you treat them badly the more they want you and I'm like my god is this what we've come to? So it's a thing it really is a thing

You want what you can't get. this, and now, the way it is now, is you want more of what you can't get. If somebody makes, if the person who's the most valuable is the one who is most judgmental and mean. If you can get them, you're valuable. You're a winner. It's insane. And the the kind, wonderful guys.

Charlie Robinson (21:19.823)
Interesting. Boy, this is...

Moira Bramley (21:25.002)
who just want to have, you know, good sex, fun, enjoy themselves with somebody, maybe get married, whatever, they're ignored. They're really kind, sweet guys who just want to be kind to women, tend to be like, they don't count.

Charlie Robinson (21:45.032)
Well, I will say that 30 years ago when I was fresh out of college, I bartended for many years and I got a chance to see that and nothing really changed. The nice guys were left sitting there at the end of the night by themselves and the abrasive, arrogant, cocky guys were leaving with girls and that's just how it was. in the long term, know, the nice guys...

Moira Bramley (22:07.926)
Yeah.

Charlie Robinson (22:12.285)
know, nice guys finish last, well, you know, in the longterm, then you want to be with the nice guys. But in that early, that young stage, they get discarded. They get, they get marginalized and they're not because they're not fun and they're not what people are looking for. And I think that maybe if, that happens to you long enough, you start to build up this barrier. Well, I don't even want to want, now you want me, now you want me when I'm 30, now that I'm stable and now you're done with your era. I don't think so. So there's some of that going down too.

Moira Bramley (22:22.254)
and so.

Moira Bramley (22:33.058)
Yeah. Yeah.

Moira Bramley (22:39.38)
Yeah, totally. And there's so much resentment. But you know, I've done a lot of classes in Russia, Kazakhstan, a lot of areas where it's incredibly normal for it to be very known that the man pays for the woman. Even on dates, everything. It's like, you don't have enough money for me. know, every young girl is looking for a man with money. And men have got no idea.

unless they're very aware whether the woman actually likes them for them or not. So this is one of the reasons that I went into consciousness. I was like, okay, I am going to know energy inside out and I'm going to know what's going on with everybody.

and where people are lying, where they're pretending. So it's been incredibly rewarding. And when you can see what's going on for people, can facilitate them to a different possibility. And that's why I went into it. I love it. If they desire it.

Charlie Robinson (23:44.574)
Let's talk about that because so many of us are going through life unconscious. We are physically here, mentally able to perform today's tasks, but we're not deep thinking. We're not contemplating the future. We're not pondering our existence. But maybe something happens in your life and you decide you've got to kind of wake up to this and it could be a variety of things.

Moira Bramley (24:11.267)
Yes.

Charlie Robinson (24:13.161)
For somebody who's starting to that awakening process and you wake up, you don't even know what you're looking at, how would you guide them? Somebody comes to you and says, Maura, I've just sort of had this feeling that everything that I believe is bullshit and that I wanna know what the truth is and I feel like I'm being lied to and I feel like I'm more than my body, but sometimes I'm being told I'm not and can you help me? Where would you take, where would you?

take somebody that came to you with something like

Moira Bramley (24:43.51)
Well, I would start by telling them, yes, you're aware, you're correct. What do you see that's working in this world? Are we creating a sustainable planet? Are we becoming more intelligent? It's, you know, we're at war. There's like over 200 countries in the world.

200 countries, like the governments, healthcare systems, everything is just like where is it all, where is it working? Are we creating a sustainable planet? Is there more kindness happening in the world? Or are we, would we seem to be getting stupider?

There's a massive gulf now between people who are waking up and becoming conscious and people who are absolutely not interested. Most people, and it took me a long time, it took me till in my second year training to be a psychotherapist and I went, this is not what I'm after, this is not gonna give me what I'm asking for because I knew that there was more to life than meets the eye. There's more than available than what I...

think I am now. I'm not what, all the definitions I have about myself, all the stories that I've been bringing from my past, I'm way more than this. So I would talk with people about that. When you start to become truly present, you don't function from the monkey mind. You know, what your mind tells you, if you were to write down when you wake up in the morning, everything that goes through your mind, it's crazy making. You know, but...

been taught to that the mind is our most valuable asset, the intellect, you know. But what people don't realize is like if you are somebody who works with your intellect and you like if you look at professors and universities a lot of they live in their head, you know. We don't know that

Moira Bramley (26:45.494)
come not present. People are like what's presence what do you mean I'm here hello when I had that first said to me you need to wake up and I'm like what are you talking about like I'm talking with you here right now I'm awake so I would suggest that they if they're truly interested to start attending

Classy seminar on consciousness and start to explore what is it really, what is consciousness? What does it mean to be asleep?

Charlie Robinson (27:22.981)
I, the first time I had...

First time I had a psychedelic experience was my freshman year in college. It was profound, of course, but it wasn't the first time I had a unusual experience. When my father died, I had almost like a out of body experience where I could see things happening on a much different level. it was very strange. And then...

Moira Bramley (27:48.013)
Almost.

Charlie Robinson (27:57.15)
psychedelics entered my life and I realized that there's a world outside of my world that I was unaware of and that if I am of the belief that the only thing that's there is what I see and what I hear that I'm severely limiting myself to what's out there. And so my, I don't know if I should say battle with consciousness, but my recognition that I was in a

in a way unconscious started me down a path that I'm I'm still on, frankly, and I don't know if you ever get off of it. But do you have to be aware of the kind of your lack of consciousness to start this trip? Is that kind of the the the entrance ticket you have to know that you don't know what you think you know? Humble yourself.

Moira Bramley (28:35.756)
No, it keeps going.

Moira Bramley (28:49.026)
Yeah, I mean, a lot of people get to it through meditation or through, like you say, a psychedelic experience or, I mean, that's very short lived. It gives you a glimpse. It definitely doesn't make you conscious. Psychedelics are not going to make you conscious. They'll give you a glimpse of what is actually beyond the veil of this reality. So until people get...

Charlie Robinson (28:59.912)
Yep, right.

Mm-mm.

Moira Bramley (29:13.256)
Usually like you say there'll be a major change in the life. know I was I was mines was I was living in a 12 million dollar house on the on my own private beach on the island of Jersey in the Channel Islands You know flying in private jets driving a Porsche car and I was suicidal. I was like if this is it It's not enough for me. I'm actually writing a book right now about it

I was like, this is not, that's when I went, okay, what can I do to get more awareness? I know there's more, I know there's more of me. I'm so fucking bored, sorry. I'm so bored out, so bored out my head. So was like, okay, I'll be at my sister's psychotherapist. I was like, okay, I'll do what she's doing. I'll be a psychotherapist too. And then I realized that we constantly focus on the problem.

Charlie Robinson (29:54.223)
sorry, no.

Moira Bramley (30:08.738)
and we try to fix this problem and then we'll find another problem. We're just going to roam looking at the problems.

But we never ask for the possibilities beyond the problem. We're taught to look at the problem rather than see the problem, which isn't really a problem, as a whole bunch of possibilities. We keep looking to fix that problem, that problem, that problem. And that's what I psychotherapy as for me. Guys, if you're a psychotherapist, you do great work. I watch a lot of people get a lot of change. And I actually was in psychotherapy for five years before I

trained to be a psychotherapy. But it only looks at within this reality, it doesn't go beyond how we can function beyond. We've been conditioned to function in a way that we believe connection is. We're the people. And what it actually does is it keeps us incredibly limited, tied into a social way of being. That

We keep making ourselves smaller to fit in. And what we've been taught kindness is not what true kindness is. So what I've done is learn to function in a way that is beyond that, that I don't.

I don't get stuck in the structures of social. I don't even know how to word it. This is the thing when you start to become more aware, get conscious, there's a lot of words, there's lack of words to describe a lot of things. So, yeah, I realized that I needed to learn to be.

Charlie Robinson (31:50.441)
Yeah.

Moira Bramley (31:59.182)
And people are like, what do you mean be? I needed to learn to be beyond this reality. So even though I'm talking with you now and I'm very aware of this reality, I'm also very, very aware of beyond this reality. And beyond this reality is space. It's incredibly relaxing and it's incredibly, it's filled with.

everything, basically everything. It's like not easy to describe but there's a space of being, a piece of being where you're just aware of everything.

Charlie Robinson (32:40.905)
Is the trick to keep us on that hamster wheel going and going and not ever take the time to have this thought? I mean, you could have very easily enjoyed life on your private beach. Why wouldn't you? People aspire to that, right? That's known as the pinnacle. Once I get that, then I'll be happy, right? But that's not necessarily always the case, I wonder.

Moira Bramley (32:52.898)
No, I was killed in my head. Yeah.

Moira Bramley (33:04.364)
Now I'm very grateful for me choosing that to be honest because I chose to have money fast. I failed everything at school and I was like school doesn't define me okay and I'm actually very bright I just couldn't learn the ways the linear way school was teaching me. So I was like okay I'm gonna find a man who is an entrepreneur and he didn't have a lot of money at the time but he had more money than me.

Charlie Robinson (33:19.271)
above you

Moira Bramley (33:31.138)
But when we got together, I know how to generate and pull money in in a way that I'm not going to start describing, but it is fun. Anyway, when I got to having the utopian ideal life, I was like, is this it? This is it? It's not enough. It is not enough. So, I mean, it's great to have a beautiful...

house, beautiful surroundings and enjoy the luxury and comfort but it doesn't give you you.

Charlie Robinson (34:08.947)
Yeah, yeah. Did you feel a sense of accomplishment by, because you created this with your husband, as opposed to maybe somebody who parachutes in at the end after somebody already has the money and says, I'm the new wife or whatever, but you guys built this together. Was there a sense of accomplishment and pride in that?

Moira Bramley (34:23.756)
you

Moira Bramley (34:27.822)
Yes, and I would have just as happily have married somebody who had already accomplished it. To me it was, it wasn't the, I mean there was definitely a sense of achievement in building that, but it still got me to the same place of...

And I'm so, so grateful that I got to that early, young, to have the time to go, well, what else? This is not enough.

Charlie Robinson (34:58.429)
Yeah. So when you're meeting with people in the castle and they're trying to fix their lives, my assumption is that maybe they come from a place of money in order to afford that. do they do, do they have, are there similar stories? I mean, we hear money doesn't buy happiness and everyone who's poor goes, I'd love to try. I'd love that version of unhappiness if you could make that happen. But, but are you

Are you finding that a lot of your clients had similar stories and that because you went through that yourself,

Moira Bramley (35:29.006)
No. No. A lot of people come to the castle, they've had money, they've always had money. And some people come that don't have a lot of money. The cheapest room in the castle is 520 euros and there are some people that come that don't, they save up for a long time to come. So they don't have money but they're willing to spend a weekend there and pay a thousand and whatever euros, yeah?

So it's not just people that have money. People are like, my God, I want to visit, I want to stay in this castle. So no, it's not, it's not just people that have money.

Charlie Robinson (36:07.188)
Well, who's the happiest? Who's the unhappiest? We're in the Western culture. I'm told we're supposed to be the happiest. We've got everything, right? I see a lot of unhappy people.

Moira Bramley (36:11.02)
The happiest people, the happiest.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm going to say something that's going to infuriate a lot of people but happiness truly, it truly is a choice. You know, I cried a couple of weeks ago, I watched something on Instagram and it was a little kid in Africa singing his heart out.

Charlie Robinson (36:23.37)
I like it already.

Moira Bramley (36:39.486)
and he made his friends standing next to him cry but the joy in this child's world singing was absolutely beautiful. Now you could tell he was in the gutter and I see people who are I have a lot of acquaintances and some friends who are multi-millionaires and billionaires and the money's not making them happy. It's irrelevant. Money or no money. I mean don't get me wrong money makes life

easier definitely. Money definitely makes life easy but it does not make you happy. If you win the lottery you might be happy for six months a year but then you'll be like what now?

You know, for a while I thought there was something wrong with me. like, I can't be happy. Like, I've got millions, multi-millions, and I can't be happy. What's wrong with me?

Charlie Robinson (37:36.33)
Yeah, I mean, it would be tempting to think that there was something wrong with you. When you achieve everything that society tells you, once you get there, that means you're a success and that means you must be happy because you've made a success and everybody thinks you're successful and so you've got this external adoration. Yeah.

Moira Bramley (37:41.262)
You

Moira Bramley (37:52.386)
Because that's we've been taught that's what success is, Charlie. That's not success for a lot of people. And I don't mean the people who say, people who have money are not happy. That's bullshit too, you know? I'm not having money. You know, a lot of people have an inverse snobbery where they are proud of their poverty. And I'm not, know, all of that is a whole other, you know? But what we are taught may create happiness in this reality.

Charlie Robinson (37:57.448)
Right.

No.

Charlie Robinson (38:14.023)
Yeah, for sure.

Moira Bramley (38:23.178)
I've watched it for years, even as a kid I was aware. People think if they get a relationship, they get money, they get this and they get that, okay, all my ducks are lined up in a row, I should be happy now.

Charlie Robinson (38:38.793)
What a trip this is. We get given an instruction manual on life early on and it's just backwards. All the things that they tell us won't...

Moira Bramley (38:47.502)
When you become present, everything becomes heightened in a way that you enjoy the smallest things and you don't identify with, you know, if you live in a big house, you don't identify with that. don't identify with...

money or your social status or the car you drive or how you look or the clothes you wear all of that is yeah it's fun to live in this reality with stuff like that but what brings you truly happiness is presence and when you when you become present there's a natural joy that surfaces that you're like my god wow this is how it could be

Charlie Robinson (39:32.179)
What's the difference between wellness and wellbeing?

Moira Bramley (39:37.015)
I don't know.

Charlie Robinson (39:38.291)
Ha ha ha ha.

Moira Bramley (39:40.62)
I think they're both got a lot of stuff loaded from this reality on them. Wellness and wellbeing. I don't know. I've got no idea.

Charlie Robinson (39:53.277)
They just, they're words that get used sort of interchangeably and I just wonder if...

Moira Bramley (39:57.71)
There are words that mean a lot of things and I mean think health is a well-being, wellness. don't know, one is health, I think. I've got no idea, they're not words that I use.

Charlie Robinson (40:10.698)
You

Yeah, I'm just curious how we, know, I suppose the sooner you figure it out, the better, right? That this version of reality that is presented to you has some holes in the plot and the things that we're told that will make us happy. Better that you figure it out in your 20s than in your 80s, right? Who?

Moira Bramley (40:36.59)
So the thing is, not really, not really, some people are very happy, well most people actually are hap- well that's not true. Most people are more content, well content isn't even the word, they like to be comfortable. And they don't want anything different. You know yourself, if something's not working in your life, really not working, you'll eventually get to asking a question.

Okay, what else? This is so not working. What else? And when you truly get to question, that's when things will start to show up. As if from left field. It's amazing where it comes from. And that is consciousness. You know, when you're present and you're asking, what, what else? You know, I asked, I was like, okay, I'm done with this. What else?

Literally what else? And within three weeks access consciousness came to the island.

Charlie Robinson (41:39.538)
Interesting. So let me ask you this. In the universal rule book, do you have to ask for it?

Moira Bramley (41:49.78)
you totally have to ask. And here's the other thing, you have to be willing to receive as well because a lot of people say, but I'm asking, but I'm asking. They're not truly asking because they're not willing to receive it. It's coming from here, not from their being.

Charlie Robinson (42:05.172)
had this, it's funny that you say that the willing to receive it too, because I had a very unusual experience in Mexico. I was 20, 24. It wasn't too long ago, but it was during a ceremony. in the aftermath of this psychedelic ceremony, I was of the belief, though it wasn't a person saying it into my head. It was just of a feeling. I don't know how to define it.

that I was going to have a much bigger voice. And I didn't know what that meant, but I'm writing books and doing podcasts. And I was working on getting this documentary series financed. And so I was out there talking about it. So in my mind, I'm thinking that's what it is, of course. What else could it be? It's gotta be that. And five months go by and out of, literally out of

Moira Bramley (42:53.038)
Yeah.

Charlie Robinson (43:01.672)
I got an email from some guys who own this company, a company that I've known about for years called Activist Post. It's independent news website. They reached out to me and said, we've been doing this for a while and we've been doing this for 15 years. We're ready to move on and do something else. We were interested in knowing if you'd like to buy the company. And I said, no. Thank you. Appreciate it. Love it. Love you guys. It's all good. But I'm not in a position to do that. And it took me two days.

And I was in the shower, where all good ideas come. And it struck me, hey, dummy, you know, I don't know what we can do more. We're knocking on your door. It's the universe here. We're knocking on your door. We're offering you this thing. And I went, oh my God, I'm only doing half the work. I'm asking, sort of, but then I'm not receiving, right? And that's what did it to me. As soon as I had that, I was like, ugh.

Moira Bramley (43:43.086)
Yeah. Yeah.

Charlie Robinson (43:59.914)
I have, I play a role in this. I have to be participatory in this. can't just say, oh, make it all happen for me and don't do, you know, I don't have to do anything on my end. So what do you, what do you make of that? The, the ask and then you receive, but you got to be willing to receive, right?

Moira Bramley (44:04.344)
Yeah.

Moira Bramley (44:08.46)
Yeah.

Moira Bramley (44:11.896)
Well...

Moira Bramley (44:15.532)
Yeah, well the thing is, when you ask, it's not you that does the work, it is the universe. That's the thing, that's a beautiful thing. Sorry, I'm just plugging my computer in. So when you ask, you let it go. You know, if you just say you're a child and you want a puppy, you really would love a puppy. That's an ask. Just go, my God, I would love a puppy. Wow, I would so love a puppy.

That's an ask and you just let it go. Yeah.

So, know, my god, I would love to meet a person like this. I would so love to meet a person like this. That person will come along.

Charlie Robinson (45:00.817)
but we feel like we have to do something. We're taught, I'll ask for it, but then I have to make it happen. I mean, can't just be asking for random things and have them come my way. That would be greedy, right? I have to do something. That's what we're told, right? But we don't necessarily have to do. Do we have to put ourselves in the position for something good to happen? You know?

Moira Bramley (45:01.026)
That's a mask.

Yeah, I

Moira Bramley (45:08.91)
No.

No.

Moira Bramley (45:21.08)
Well, you have to, I mean, I love, there's a tool, sorry, my microphone's over there. my goodness, sorry, can you still hear me? There's a tool in access consciousness that I absolutely love. And it's like, function from, no matter what happens in your life, function from, how does it get better than this? So it's been that energy of, okay, how does it get better than this? Whether something great happens, like, wow, how does it get better than this? Or something's not fun.

and you're having a hard time, how does it get better than this? And you're literally asking the universe to contribute, to show you, how does it get better than this?

I love that too.

Charlie Robinson (46:00.293)
I remember listening to the four disc set, The Secret, right? The Secret. And a lot of people are dismissive and they're, tokey and it's, you know, whatever. And I get that. But the idea that The Secret is, you know, that you're asking the universe

Moira Bramley (46:11.074)
Yes.

Charlie Robinson (46:28.67)
to create this version of reality for you. although it seemed very simple, like as a concept, it's funny how it didn't really enter my mind that I could just go out and ask for something because you grow up in a world where it's like, you ask for toys. No, you can't have that. You can't have that. You get told, you ask for things your entire life and you get told, no, no, no, no, no. So you get to a point.

I asked for toys and was told no. I can't ask for a perfect life. That's crazier than asking for toys, right? And we make this calculation that one thing is big and impossible and another thing is small and totally possible. And is that just the incorrect way of coming at this that we're using our little human minds and

Moira Bramley (47:11.328)
Yeah, well, first of all, just want to point out that there is no such thing as a perfect life. You know, we're here on this planet and it can be tough for everybody, for multimillionaires, billionaires, know, people who are successful. It can be tough, you know. And if you're vibrating as an energy, like I would like to meet this kind of person, they come, they come along. So

Charlie Robinson (47:16.765)
Of course not.

Moira Bramley (47:37.646)
It's vibrating as an energy. It's just having that energy in your world. So like with you with your business right now, you have questions, you have asks about your business, about people coming to be interviewed. You've got all these asks. How could you exponentialize that and ask for even greater? And this thing about greed is absolute nonsense. There is not a shortage.

Charlie Robinson (48:03.338)
told there is though, we're in a very deficient mindset, we're in a lack of...

Moira Bramley (48:04.951)
Yeah, of course.

Of course. Yeah. It's nonsense. It's all designed to control.

You know, if they don't have enough money in America, they go, OK, Federal Reserve, we need more money. Make more money. You know, there are 177 countries in debt. In debt. To other countries and to themselves. The economy doesn't work. It's not working. But there's still control. Let's control, control, control, control.

Charlie Robinson (48:26.708)
Yeah.

Moira Bramley (48:46.382)
So the universe does the work, you ask. Now if you want to be a great writer, it's not going to just show up, you have to work. You have to practice and practice. don't get stupid about it. You can't sit in your sitting room and go, I would love to meet this person. You might have to go to a few different places, maybe, you know, go to some dinner parties, join a club, like, you know.

It's so if you move and ask and you live in your life, it will show up. But if you're sitting in your sitting room depressed going life sucks, well life will suck. If you. Totally, totally.

Charlie Robinson (49:26.602)
Your wish is my command, right? The universe will give you whatever you're asking for. So if you've got this amazing cheat sheet, how do you use it? How do we design a life that is worth it? Just place your order through the cosmic menu to, yeah.

Moira Bramley (49:37.014)
Like I said, what would you like?

Moira Bramley (49:45.87)
Truly, truly, it's like if you would like, I don't know, a new friend to come into your life that was, inspired you to, I don't know, whatever, maybe be greater, be more conscious, be happier, know, whatever, I don't know, somebody who added to your life, ask for it. And if you're truly willing to receive it, they will show up. If you would like your business to expand,

Ask for it.

and be in question every day. What can I be and do to exponentialise my business with ease?

Charlie Robinson (50:22.622)
What,

Charlie Robinson (50:30.794)
What about you? You're a wealth coach as well. So is this, how much of this is Met Mindset? I mean, you're clearly not telling people when to go buy stocks and when to sell stocks, right? It's beyond that. maybe you but that's not what

Moira Bramley (50:39.82)
mindset

Moira Bramley (50:45.762)
And have done. I have done, but I don't. That's not why, no. A mindset, don't know, tell me if I'm correct. Mindset is where you fix your mind into this is gonna be the, this is how I'm gonna function. That's the opposite of conscious, being conscious.

Charlie Robinson (51:01.226)
That's how I always thought of it was what is your What's your attitude going into this thing? You're going into this project going what's your mindset going into this? In my in my mind it was kind of attitude is it are you going in there like I'm positive We're gonna make this work or you go. Yeah, you know I know nothing ever happens for me

Moira Bramley (51:13.314)
So it's about attitude, is it?

Moira Bramley (51:24.982)
It's just the words that are like the mind set, your mind is set, you know, it's like in consciousness, your mind has to be so malleable, not your mind, you, the being, your awareness, and you have to be willing to change your point of view on a dime, you know, like, literally like, I believe this, but now I can see that this is true. But if you are in conclusion, this is how life is.

This is what can show up for me, this is what can't. I'm greedy if I ask for this. I'm uncomfortable receiving this. I this is all what I see as mindset or points of view we don't even know we have. Most people actually are not comfortable around money. They don't like money. They say they do, but they actually don't. And this is something I've worked for 22 years and people go, yeah, right, yeah, right, they don't.

Charlie Robinson (52:18.408)
Why is that? it because they didn't have it and they want to convince themselves that they don't need it in their, or I wonder.

Moira Bramley (52:24.48)
Money gets a bad rap. Money is like the root of all evil. Money shows who you are. It makes you greedy and all of that nonsense. If you've got too much money, you're a bad, wrong person. I've got multi-money. I don't care. You can judge me all you like. I'm more comfortable in having more fun and ease in my life than you who's poor. Now people will get angry at that.

But that's the mindset, I'm poor, I can't get out of it. I can't change anything. This is just life, I'm poor. That's a mindset. But when you like, no matter what it takes, because I was living in dire poverty. I used to walk to school with holes in my shoes in the snow. I had bare legs, know, there was one Christmas, we had no food. I lived in not a fun family.

I had a father who was an alcoholic, know, a mother who was not present, she was beautiful, but living in PTSD constantly. This is why I went into, you know, a lot of what I went into. But I was like, I ain't living like this. Age 10, I chose to have money. Literally age 10. I watched Oliver Twist, the movie Oliver Twist. And I was like, I don't know if you know the story, but he wakes up. He was ill, unconscious.

lying on a warehouse floor, freezing, starving, you know, being used by a guy who was sending them out to beg. But he wakes up in this Victorian or Edwardian, can't remember, beautiful house with a fire in the hearth in his bedroom and beautiful bedding and chandeliers and a maid walks in with a silver tray with breakfast on it and he's like, what happened?

His real parents found him. And I was like...

Moira Bramley (54:27.342)
Can that happen? And what I did, and a lot of people will judge me for this and I don't care. I was like, okay, I'm changing this. So I asked for that at age 10 and at age 12, I met a friend who lived in the wealthy houses, two fields away. She moved into the private housing. We lived in government housing. She lived in private housing.

Charlie Robinson (54:29.842)
Hahaha.

Moira Bramley (54:55.35)
and her mother drove a posh car and her mother's employee used to drive her everywhere and I was like, I'm gonna be her friend. And I started to spend more time at her house than I did my own. And I was like, my God. So this is what I mean. I started to invite that energy into my life. She had a larder full of food and a massive double American fridge and I'm like, my.

God, we were starving. She had carpets from wall to wall in central heating. We had one room that had a coal fire in it and sometimes we didn't have coal. And I was like, I'm going to live like this. So that was a choice. I am going to live like this. No matter what it takes, I'm living like this. And when I was 14, my boyfriend showed up. He was older than me and he was working.

And at that time he had a wage coming in that was £500 a week. It was in Scotland. And I was like, my God, he's rich. And he adored me and he took me on trains and took me out for beautiful meals and bought me things. So already it had started to show up.

And I'm like, okay, what else? So it's asking and choosing and choosing and it will show up. Because she showed up and then he showed up. So, yeah.

Charlie Robinson (56:26.034)
And statistically speaking, neither of them should have shown up based on your situation growing up and where you were. You weren't in a position where wealthy people were going to intersect your life, but that is, that's, so you got to get honest, right? About who you are what you want.

Moira Bramley (56:33.186)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Moira Bramley (56:46.254)
Totally. And all this nonsense about it being you're asking for too much and you're being... Bullshit.

Charlie Robinson (56:56.286)
Well, what if someone's listening to this and they say, I wanna do this. Maybe I wanna go to the castle or I wanna explore this with you. What's the best place for people to connect? Is it through your website, moribrandley.com? Is that the best place you think?

Moira Bramley (57:15.254)
Yeah, Moira Bramley.com. Moira Bramley.com. Yeah. Or they can go to, or they can go to access consciousness.com. That's where I started. That's when I that's what I facilitate access consciousness because for me it is the most it's the fastest and the most comprehensive set of tools and principles and

Charlie Robinson (57:20.232)
We got coming this year. Yeah.

Charlie Robinson (57:26.536)
What would access consciousness, okay.

Moira Bramley (57:43.402)
energy work and everything that changes. I haven't found anything else and I've searched for years to see if there's anything like it. There's a tool for everything.

There's a way to change everything. I love it.

Charlie Robinson (57:59.508)
Well, I'm glad you're doing it. I think a lot of people are stuck in a rut.

Moira Bramley (58:03.97)
No, they think they're You're only stuck if you're not asking a question.

Charlie Robinson (58:11.338)
Well, if you're listening to this show, you already started asking questions about a variety of things, I'm sure. So they're probably more than halfway there. That's Maura Bramley, everybody. can check her out. Her website link will be down in the show notes as well. If you want to check out the castle, go get yourself sorted out. And if you want to connect with me, macroaggressions.io is the website and the best place to do that. Thanks everybody. We'll talk to you again soon.

Moira Bramley (58:36.43)
Thank you. Thank you. Bye.