1 00:00:00,830 --> 00:00:02,809 Announcer: This is a Getty podcast. 2 00:00:02,809 --> 00:00:04,122 [Theme music begins] 3 00:00:04,895 --> 00:00:08,230 Host: You might have heard a bedtime story, but have you 4 00:00:08,285 --> 00:00:11,490 ever heard a bed tell a story? 5 00:00:12,672 --> 00:00:17,076 Welcome to If Objects Could Talk, the podcast where art 6 00:00:17,136 --> 00:00:21,535 and artifacts come alive and tell their side of the story. 7 00:00:22,198 --> 00:00:26,220 At the end of a long day, I am ready to curl up with 8 00:00:26,362 --> 00:00:30,462 all my pillows and blankets, and maybe even a few of my 9 00:00:30,471 --> 00:00:32,289 favorite stuffed animals. 10 00:00:32,494 --> 00:00:36,682 And people in the past were no different, except some of their 11 00:00:36,702 --> 00:00:39,491 beds were quite a bit fancier. 12 00:00:39,491 --> 00:00:40,531 [Light classical music begins] 13 00:00:40,531 --> 00:00:41,663 Our guest today is a bed. 14 00:00:42,015 --> 00:00:44,665 Not just any bed, a lit à la turque. 15 00:00:45,238 --> 00:00:48,756 That’s French, and we’ll let her explain what it means. 16 00:00:49,199 --> 00:00:56,013 She was made in Paris between 1750 and 1760 by many, many 17 00:00:56,068 --> 00:00:57,406 different craftspeople. 18 00:00:57,714 --> 00:01:00,134 Who knew beds were such hard work? 19 00:01:00,590 --> 00:01:04,233 Luckily, she knows a thing or two about rest and 20 00:01:04,233 --> 00:01:08,303 recovery, and hopefully she can stay awake long enough 21 00:01:08,329 --> 00:01:11,808 to share that with us. 22 00:01:11,808 --> 00:01:14,527 Bed: [deep, feminine voice yawns] Oh, hello. 23 00:01:15,231 --> 00:01:16,842 Yes, I’m awake. 24 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,899 Completely awake. 25 00:01:20,312 --> 00:01:24,655 I was just resting my eyes. [yawns again] 26 00:01:24,655 --> 00:01:26,669 I am the lit à la turque. 27 00:01:27,315 --> 00:01:29,070 Lit, that’s French for bed. 28 00:01:29,491 --> 00:01:32,687 À la turque, that means “in the Turkish style”. 29 00:01:33,140 --> 00:01:35,776 I guess I am here to tell you a bedtime story. 30 00:01:35,776 --> 00:01:36,532 [Classical music plays] 31 00:01:36,532 --> 00:01:40,191 Once upon a time, there was a handsome prince [man laughs] 32 00:01:40,191 --> 00:01:43,519 whose father gave him three impossible tasks 33 00:01:43,519 --> 00:01:45,012 to prove himself worthy. 34 00:01:45,012 --> 00:01:46,741 [music abruptly ends] Um, what’s this? 35 00:01:47,101 --> 00:01:49,145 I’m not sharing a bedtime story? [voice whispers “nope”] 36 00:01:49,145 --> 00:01:51,119 I am telling a story about 37 00:01:51,134 --> 00:01:55,953 myself...the bed. Oh, I am so sorry. 38 00:01:56,154 --> 00:01:57,939 [yawns] I’m just so sleepy. 39 00:01:59,137 --> 00:02:00,685 I must have misheard you. 40 00:02:01,054 --> 00:02:03,920 Well, what is there to tell about me? 41 00:02:04,224 --> 00:02:05,414 I am a bed. 42 00:02:06,116 --> 00:02:08,513 Impressive and gorgeous, to be certain. 43 00:02:09,312 --> 00:02:11,503 [bells chime] I am unusually large, even 44 00:02:11,503 --> 00:02:12,694 for a bed of my time. 45 00:02:12,966 --> 00:02:16,163 I am so high off the ground that you would have needed a small 46 00:02:16,173 --> 00:02:17,894 stool just to climb into me. 47 00:02:18,853 --> 00:02:22,695 My frame is beautifully carved with all the swirls and 48 00:02:22,957 --> 00:02:25,249 flourishes of the Rococo style. 49 00:02:25,249 --> 00:02:25,978 [Classical music plays] 50 00:02:25,978 --> 00:02:29,206 Rococo was the great passion of mid-18th century France, 51 00:02:29,358 --> 00:02:31,821 and it was all about an abundance of elegance 52 00:02:31,924 --> 00:02:33,358 and the beauty of nature. 53 00:02:33,587 --> 00:02:36,668 My two ends scroll outward like unfurling scrolls of 54 00:02:36,668 --> 00:02:40,603 paper, and that, actually, is the reason I am called 55 00:02:40,787 --> 00:02:42,575 “in the Turkish style”. 56 00:02:43,607 --> 00:02:47,940 In the 1700s, anything that seemed exotic was wildly 57 00:02:47,944 --> 00:02:49,204 fashionable in France. 58 00:02:49,590 --> 00:02:53,190 Turkey, China, Egypt, all the rage. 59 00:02:53,241 --> 00:02:56,274 [voice says “Ooh la la”] Craftsmen and designers loved to 60 00:02:56,274 --> 00:02:59,835 borrow shapes and feelings from these distant lands 61 00:02:59,835 --> 00:03:03,327 to capture a sense of mystery, luxury, and the faraway, 62 00:03:03,756 --> 00:03:05,679 like living in a fairy tale. 63 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:09,654 I was designed to lie with my back against the wall, like a 64 00:03:09,655 --> 00:03:12,322 very elegant sofa, but grander. 65 00:03:13,221 --> 00:03:15,253 Above me would have hung a baldachin, 66 00:03:15,460 --> 00:03:16,721 that’s a fabric canopy. 67 00:03:17,388 --> 00:03:20,481 Textiles would hang from the canopy and go to each side 68 00:03:20,481 --> 00:03:24,709 of the bed, making the whole space feel more dramatic. 69 00:03:24,709 --> 00:03:29,660 [opera singing] 70 00:03:29,660 --> 00:03:32,679 My baldaquin is gone now, sadly. 71 00:03:33,513 --> 00:03:36,822 Oh, but I still remember the feeling of all 72 00:03:36,829 --> 00:03:38,238 that silk overhead. 73 00:03:38,748 --> 00:03:41,339 I also have large wheels at my base. 74 00:03:41,487 --> 00:03:42,105 Practical. 75 00:03:42,381 --> 00:03:45,827 The servants would pull my body out from the wall 76 00:03:45,827 --> 00:03:47,809 to make me up with fresh linens while 77 00:03:47,810 --> 00:03:49,968 my tall back stayed in place. 78 00:03:50,125 --> 00:03:52,102 Then they’d push me right back in. 79 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:53,680 Neat as you please. 80 00:03:53,987 --> 00:03:54,653 Thank you. 81 00:03:55,892 --> 00:03:58,928 I loved being the center of attention, and lucky for me, 82 00:03:58,938 --> 00:04:01,302 there were often guests. [voices chatter] 83 00:04:01,302 --> 00:04:03,806 You know how at a sleepover everyone 84 00:04:03,814 --> 00:04:06,932 stays up late whispering and giggling in the dark? 85 00:04:07,686 --> 00:04:11,728 [giggles] Well, imagine a sleepover, but in reverse. 86 00:04:11,728 --> 00:04:14,484 [child says “Huh?”] Instead of late at night, all the 87 00:04:14,485 --> 00:04:17,247 fun happens first thing in the morning. Friends 88 00:04:17,248 --> 00:04:20,254 arrive while you’re still getting ready, doing hair, 89 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,694 lacing dresses, picking out the perfect accessories. 90 00:04:24,337 --> 00:04:25,704 [voices over low music] Everyone is chatting and 91 00:04:25,704 --> 00:04:28,330 laughing, sharing gossip from the night before. 92 00:04:29,013 --> 00:04:32,435 Hot chocolate is being sipped, because in France, 93 00:04:32,504 --> 00:04:35,503 in those days, hot chocolate wasn’t just a treat. 94 00:04:35,931 --> 00:04:38,554 It was how fashionable people started their mornings. 95 00:04:38,990 --> 00:04:42,009 Can you imagine starting every single morning that way? 96 00:04:42,135 --> 00:04:44,945 [child exclaims “Mmm!”] And I was practically 97 00:04:44,948 --> 00:04:45,953 the guest of honor. 98 00:04:46,246 --> 00:04:49,402 [sighs] Of course, not everything in 99 00:04:49,402 --> 00:04:50,618 life can be a party. 100 00:04:50,943 --> 00:04:52,840 Eventually, the guests went home. 101 00:04:52,847 --> 00:04:53,388 [voices say goodbye] Thank you very much for coming. 102 00:04:53,388 --> 00:04:54,568 The hot chocolate was finished. 103 00:04:54,597 --> 00:04:55,852 I’m so glad you could come. 104 00:04:55,852 --> 00:04:59,799 And then, bliss, sleep, my very favorite. 105 00:04:59,799 --> 00:05:03,871 [lullaby music] Sleep is very important, you know. 106 00:05:04,653 --> 00:05:07,864 You probably have a bedtime, and with great fortune and 107 00:05:07,864 --> 00:05:10,797 care, you don’t wake up until your alarm goes off. 108 00:05:11,207 --> 00:05:15,237 However, in 18th-century France, people practiced something 109 00:05:15,237 --> 00:05:20,079 called biphasic sleep: bi, meaning two; phasic, meaning 110 00:05:20,081 --> 00:05:22,999 phases, so two phases of sleep. 111 00:05:23,305 --> 00:05:26,448 They would have a first sleep starting around dusk and then 112 00:05:26,448 --> 00:05:29,602 wake up around midnight [voice yawns] to read, [page turns] 113 00:05:29,602 --> 00:05:32,530 to pray, [voice murmurs] to do a spot of cleaning, [sweeps] 114 00:05:33,176 --> 00:05:35,167 to visit the neighbors. [voices say hello] 115 00:05:35,167 --> 00:05:35,167 116 00:05:35,167 --> 00:05:38,361 Could you imagine waking in the middle of the night to do your 117 00:05:38,366 --> 00:05:42,135 homework or clean your room, let alone head to your neighbor’s 118 00:05:42,137 --> 00:05:43,623 house to borrow a cup of milk? [voice says “No way.”] 119 00:05:43,623 --> 00:05:46,393 But for hundreds of years, that 120 00:05:46,394 --> 00:05:49,756 is how people did it. [yawn] Oh, are you getting sleepy? 121 00:05:49,756 --> 00:05:52,356 [voice says “Uh-huh.”] Talking about sleep tends to do that. 122 00:05:52,772 --> 00:05:54,768 Shall I tell you the story of how I was made? 123 00:05:55,030 --> 00:05:58,167 It’s a long story, but I’ll try to keep it brief so 124 00:05:58,169 --> 00:05:59,342 that you won’t fall asleep. 125 00:05:59,626 --> 00:06:01,284 That’s only charming when I do it. 126 00:06:01,284 --> 00:06:02,360 [Classical music plays] 127 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,596 A bed like me does not simply appear. 128 00:06:04,858 --> 00:06:08,644 I was the work of many hands—many very skilled, very 129 00:06:08,645 --> 00:06:11,224 particular, very serious hands. 130 00:06:11,772 --> 00:06:14,633 There was a menuisier—that’s French for the woodworker. 131 00:06:15,044 --> 00:06:18,400 Mine was Monsieur Jean-Baptiste Tilliard, a master and 132 00:06:18,405 --> 00:06:19,858 head of his own workshop. 133 00:06:20,267 --> 00:06:22,950 In his workshop, my frame was built. 134 00:06:22,994 --> 00:06:25,411 [hammering and sawing] But Monsieur Tilliard 135 00:06:25,416 --> 00:06:27,577 and his team could not do everything themselves. 136 00:06:27,729 --> 00:06:28,565 Oh, no. 137 00:06:28,806 --> 00:06:31,768 In Paris at this time, furniture making was governed 138 00:06:31,768 --> 00:06:33,784 by the guilds, groups of craftsmen 139 00:06:33,784 --> 00:06:36,751 with very strict rules about who was allowed to do what. 140 00:06:37,453 --> 00:06:40,558 And so I passed through many, many hands. 141 00:06:40,965 --> 00:06:44,109 There was a sculpteur, the sculptor, who carved the 142 00:06:44,109 --> 00:06:45,729 elaborate ornament on my frame. [sawing] 143 00:06:46,135 --> 00:06:49,733 The acanthus leaves, the flowing curves, each 144 00:06:49,734 --> 00:06:53,558 one cut by hand, one careful chisel stroke at a time. 145 00:06:54,101 --> 00:06:56,626 Then came the doreur, the gilder. 146 00:06:57,467 --> 00:06:59,573 [chimes] Gilding means applying a thin layer 147 00:06:59,573 --> 00:07:01,323 of gold to a surface. 148 00:07:01,782 --> 00:07:05,018 My frame was first covered in a special paint called gesso 149 00:07:05,118 --> 00:07:08,090 to smooth it, [paint sloshing] and then the doreur would 150 00:07:08,090 --> 00:07:11,784 go back over every carved detail and sharpen it up again 151 00:07:11,796 --> 00:07:13,099 before applying the gold. 152 00:07:13,486 --> 00:07:17,479 All of that done by hand, by eye, by feel. 153 00:07:17,830 --> 00:07:21,119 And then my very favorite, the tapissier. 154 00:07:21,445 --> 00:07:25,723 Say it with me, tap-ee-see-ay, the upholsterer, the person 155 00:07:25,725 --> 00:07:29,452 responsible for my cushions, my padding, my fabric. 156 00:07:30,189 --> 00:07:33,178 Fabrics like silk, cotton, or wool, sometimes 157 00:07:33,178 --> 00:07:36,737 in combination, on enormous looms called draw looms. 158 00:07:36,848 --> 00:07:39,960 Weavers wove fabrics with patterns of flowers, vines, 159 00:07:39,963 --> 00:07:43,472 and leaves so intricate they looked like paintings. 160 00:07:44,154 --> 00:07:44,776 [Classical music plays] 161 00:07:44,776 --> 00:07:47,517 The fabric for my cushions and bolsters, those are the long 162 00:07:47,543 --> 00:07:50,432 pillow rolls at my scrolled ends, would have been woven 163 00:07:50,432 --> 00:07:55,245 in Lyon, dyed in deep, rich colors, then sewn and stretched 164 00:07:55,245 --> 00:07:58,586 and fitted by the tapissier with absolute precision. 165 00:07:59,155 --> 00:08:01,444 There is a sad little secret about fabric, though. 166 00:08:01,740 --> 00:08:03,904 [sighs] It is the first thing to go. 167 00:08:03,904 --> 00:08:06,067 [voice says “no way.”] No, it’s true! 168 00:08:06,410 --> 00:08:09,646 Wood lasts for centuries, gold as well, but 169 00:08:09,965 --> 00:08:12,183 fabric...fabric is fragile. 170 00:08:12,457 --> 00:08:17,363 It fades, it frays, it falls to pieces, just like me. 171 00:08:17,801 --> 00:08:22,116 When someone wakes me from a deep slumber [yawns] We 172 00:08:22,118 --> 00:08:23,837 have many beds from my era. 173 00:08:24,070 --> 00:08:26,603 We have very little of their original fabric. 174 00:08:26,914 --> 00:08:30,224 So alas, my original fabric is gone. 175 00:08:30,515 --> 00:08:33,508 The material on me now was made much later to give you 176 00:08:33,510 --> 00:08:35,095 a sense of my former glory. 177 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,133 But in my time, the upholstery would’ve been 178 00:08:38,133 --> 00:08:41,155 changed out regularly, even with the seasons. 179 00:08:41,155 --> 00:08:42,636 [Classical music plays] 180 00:08:42,636 --> 00:08:46,285 Can you imagine, a new look every few months? 181 00:08:46,616 --> 00:08:46,895 Hmm. 182 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:48,694 I rather liked that. 183 00:08:49,652 --> 00:08:51,783 How about one more story before bedtime? 184 00:08:52,064 --> 00:08:54,244 I mean, my bedtime, of course. 185 00:08:54,662 --> 00:08:57,906 I told you a story about myself, the bed. 186 00:08:58,263 --> 00:09:01,283 Now, perhaps you would like to hear that bedtime story after 187 00:09:01,284 --> 00:09:05,995 all, which, as it turns out, is also a story about fairy tales. 188 00:09:05,995 --> 00:09:07,034 [Slow, piano music plays] 189 00:09:07,034 --> 00:09:10,546 Once upon a time, there was a woman named Madame d’Aulnoy, 190 00:09:10,836 --> 00:09:12,722 Marie-Catherine d’Aulnoy. 191 00:09:13,483 --> 00:09:17,165 She lived in France about 100 years before I was made, but her 192 00:09:17,165 --> 00:09:20,713 books were still very popular in my youth, and she did something 193 00:09:20,713 --> 00:09:25,738 no one had done before: she gave fairy tales their name, contes 194 00:09:25,738 --> 00:09:28,558 de fées, tales of fairies. 195 00:09:29,107 --> 00:09:31,909 Folktales and legends have existed forever, but we can 196 00:09:31,911 --> 00:09:35,068 thank Madame d’Aulnoy for inventing the term fairy tales 197 00:09:35,087 --> 00:09:39,477 for them, and doesn’t “fairy tale” just sound more magical? 198 00:09:41,321 --> 00:09:44,226 My favorite of her stories is called “The White Cat”. 199 00:09:44,537 --> 00:09:48,252 In it, three princes must complete impossible tasks 200 00:09:48,363 --> 00:09:51,243 set by their father, the king, to prove which one is 201 00:09:51,248 --> 00:09:52,680 worthy to rule the kingdom. 202 00:09:53,136 --> 00:09:56,441 On one of the prince’s travels, he arrives at an enchanted 203 00:09:56,462 --> 00:10:00,665 castle filled with invisible hands that serve him, and he is 204 00:10:00,665 --> 00:10:04,430 welcomed by a beautiful white cat [cat meow] who is really 205 00:10:04,491 --> 00:10:06,685 a princess under a spell. [cat purrs] 206 00:10:07,723 --> 00:10:10,169 The prince is given a room to sleep in, and 207 00:10:10,169 --> 00:10:13,506 the bed is covered in quilts embroidered with gold and 208 00:10:13,506 --> 00:10:16,525 silver thread [bells chime] and curtains of the finest 209 00:10:16,525 --> 00:10:20,024 silk, because the cat princess knows that a guest deserves 210 00:10:20,036 --> 00:10:24,623 the very best, and a truly beautiful bed is a kindness. 211 00:10:24,688 --> 00:10:25,204 [voice yawns] 212 00:10:25,949 --> 00:10:28,177 Eventually, the prince breaks the spell. 213 00:10:28,507 --> 00:10:30,400 The cat turns back into a princess. 214 00:10:30,441 --> 00:10:32,230 [woman’s voice says hello] They return to the kingdom, 215 00:10:32,730 --> 00:10:34,895 [crowd cheers] and it turns out the other two brothers 216 00:10:34,895 --> 00:10:38,237 have also completed their challenges [voices say “woah.”] 217 00:10:38,338 --> 00:10:43,318 and found brides. [laughter] Three weddings! Oh, that’s a 218 00:10:43,318 --> 00:10:45,530 lot of cake, and a lot of silk. 219 00:10:45,709 --> 00:10:49,445 I’m sure everyone was exhausted after, and gladly turned 220 00:10:49,446 --> 00:10:53,178 to their beautiful beds. [group yawns] 221 00:10:53,178 --> 00:10:53,178 222 00:10:53,178 --> 00:10:56,794 My favorite part of that story is how everyone came together 223 00:10:56,795 --> 00:11:00,870 for one big, happy ending, just like so many people 224 00:11:00,875 --> 00:11:02,595 came together to make me. 225 00:11:03,207 --> 00:11:07,711 Well, [yawns] I cannot keep my eyes open any longer. 226 00:11:09,153 --> 00:11:10,370 I simply cannot. 227 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,492 It was lovely telling you my bed story, and my bedtime story. 228 00:11:15,658 --> 00:11:16,240 Nighty night. 229 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:35,788 [Lullaby music fades out and Theme music begins] 230 00:11:35,788 --> 00:11:35,789 231 00:11:35,790 --> 00:11:35,790 232 00:11:35,790 --> 00:11:41,057 I hope you enjoyed learning about beds and fairy tales. 233 00:11:41,057 --> 00:11:41,057 234 00:11:41,057 --> 00:11:44,390 Join us next time when a little guy talks about 235 00:11:44,393 --> 00:11:46,278 something really big. 236 00:11:47,659 --> 00:11:50,765 To see photographs of the bed, visit our website at 237 00:11:50,838 --> 00:11:54,401 getty dot edu slash IOCT. 238 00:11:55,011 --> 00:11:57,917 We’ve also got a listening guide with discussion questions 239 00:11:57,963 --> 00:11:59,964 and related activities there. 240 00:12:00,774 --> 00:12:01,589 This episode was written by Tocarra Elise and 241 00:12:01,589 --> 00:12:02,012 produced by Zoe Goldman. 242 00:12:02,012 --> 00:12:02,785 Shani Jamila voiced the bed. 243 00:12:03,287 --> 00:12:03,440 244 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:11,901 Theme music, mixing, and sound design by Alexandra Kalinowski. 245 00:12:13,358 --> 00:12:15,811 Christopher Sprinkle is executive producer. 246 00:12:15,811 --> 00:12:20,509 Special thanks to curators Anne-Lise Desmas and 247 00:12:20,509 --> 00:12:21,737 Miriam Schefzyk, as well as Rebekkah Hart. 248 00:12:22,433 --> 00:12:22,727 These stories are historical fiction. 249 00:12:22,727 --> 00:12:24,041 They’re based on historical 250 00:12:26,049 --> 00:12:28,782 facts and deep research, but we’ve filled in the 251 00:12:28,783 --> 00:12:30,415 gaps to make a good story. 252 00:12:31,024 --> 00:12:33,945 If you have questions about what you’ve heard, write to us 253 00:12:34,055 --> 00:12:37,125 at podteam at getty dot edu. 254 00:12:37,435 --> 00:12:38,609 Catch you next time.