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Announcer: This is
a Getty podcast.

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[Theme music begins]

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Host: By car, by plane, or
by boat…what’s the longest

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journey you’ve ever taken?

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And how did it change
how you see the world?

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Welcome to If Objects Could
Talk, the podcast where art

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and artifacts come alive to
tell their side of the story.

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Today’s guest is
no ordinary cat.

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This charismatic kitty
was made from porcelain

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and bright turquoise glaze
in China in the 1700s.

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Shortly after, he traveled all
the way to France, where he

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was given a luxurious tasseled
golden stool to sit on.

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After hanging around France’s
rich and famous for a few

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centuries, he moved to
Los Angeles in 2024, and

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today he’s here to tell
us all about his journey

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halfway around the world.

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Purrquoise: Are you
ready for an adventure?

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Then you’re in luck.

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I am a traveling cat
of grand escapades and

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even grander tales.

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[Adventurous music plays]

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I am a porcelain cat, almost as
large as a real-life house cat.

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[cat meows] I’m bright turquoise
with red glass eyes and a

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smile that shows off my teeth.
[bell chimes] 

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I’ve overheard some recent 
guests at the museum

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say I would fit right in with
some singing demon slayers.

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[KPop-style music plays]

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Though I haven’t done that
yet, I always have an ear

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out for my next adventure.

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Who knows what I might discover?

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[Adventurous music resumes]

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My bright turquoise hue is
usually the first thing that

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catches an admirer’s attention.

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[person says “Ooh!”] But here’s
a question for you: would

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you call that color blue or
green? [child says “Hmm…”] Ah!

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You’ve fallen into my trap.

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Visitors today would call my
color blue, but when I was

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made in China, turquoise was
considered a green color.

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[child says “Huh?”] Haven’t
you heard? Colors exist on a

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spectrum, which means there
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if you’re sensitive enough
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To make sense of these many
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colors into categories
and gave them names.

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This made it easier to
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talking about color.

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[child says “Wow!”]

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Why does this matter?

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Well, for one thing, language
grows all the time, so if you

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ever see an in-between shade,
come up with a name real

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quick and maybe it will stick.

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Child #1: Blorange?

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Child #2: Yeah, blue.

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[laughter]

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Child #3: “Jellow” is a little
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Also, it’s a good reminder that
different cultures and different

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time periods separate things
into categories in unique ways.

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[guitar riff plays] Any savvy
adventurer must keep their wits

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and an open mind when traveling.

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I would know.

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I was made in China
in the early 1700s.

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As soon as I was created, I knew
I was destined for adventure.

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[Soft lute music plays]

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You probably have some
adventuring objects

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around you, too.

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Don’t believe me?

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Well, where’s your shirt from?
[rustling sounds] 

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Your backpack?
[zipper opens] 

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How about the fruit you ate 
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If you’re like most people,

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the things you use every day
come from all over the world.

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They were made or grown in lots
of other countries, and then

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shipped [ship horn], flown
[airplane flying], or driven

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to nearby stores [truck driving], 
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right to your doorstep.
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When objects travel to other 
countries to be

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sold, they’re called exports,
and I was born to be exported.

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[Upbeat classical music]

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In the 1700s, Chinese
porcelain and other artworks

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were very popular in Europe.
[voice says “Ooh, la, la.”]

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However, traveling between

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Europe and China was long and
dangerous. [water sounds and

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a voice says “Ahoy there!”]
Which only made us objects

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all the more valuable.
[cash register chimes]

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To meet the growing French
demand for Asian goods, two

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big French companies joined
together to compete against the

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Dutch as a powerful shipping
company on the global stage.

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[voices laugh and man says
“Au revoir”]. Now, they

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could send a dozen ships
out each year and purchase

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impressive pieces of art,
including porcelain, to sell in

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France at the highest prices.

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Auctioneer: $58.
$58 dollar bid, now, now—

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Purrquoise: And of
course, they knew I was

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destined for greatness.

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[Triumphant music]

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I began my journey on
the coast of China.

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We traveled all the way down
past the very southernmost

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tip of the continent of
Africa, and then all the

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way back up north to France.

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This journey could take six to
eight months for a one-way trip.

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[children gasp and say “Wow!”]
These days, I hear visitors

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at the museum complain
about traffic all the time.

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Visitor: I took the 101 to
the 405, but I had to get off

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and take Sepulveda because
there was so much traffic.

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[car horns]

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Purrquoise: But I don’t think
any of them have taken a

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journey as long as I have.
Heh!

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My sailing days were full of
storms [thunder], rogue mice

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[squeaking], and excitement.
[voice says “Yahoo!”] 

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But once I arrived in France,

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I was stationed in a very
fancy sitting room where I

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was expected to just sit.
[voice sighs]

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It seems my new French owner
had a different perspective on

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what sort of cat I would be.

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I had been crafted with a
hollow base and a small opening

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in my spine so that I could
be used as an incense burner.

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In France, however, it was
my appearance that people

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found most interesting.
[voice says “Oh!”] 

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In fact, I was even made to be
more majestic than before!

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I was given new red glass
eyes [glass chimes] and my

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posh golden stool to sit on.
[heavy thump] 

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There would be no burning 
anything around me now.

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I was too precious.

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[Light classical music]

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My new owner was the Marquise
de Pompadour, sometimes called

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Madame de Pompadour, and she
lived in a grand home now

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called the Élysée Palace.

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Madame was a big
patron of the arts.

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She even advocated for
porcelain manufacturing to

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become a royal enterprise.

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You could say that I was
an inspiration to her.

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I won’t correct you.

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Madame de Pompadour was
also a big fan of cats.

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[cat meows] I was one of
many feline art pieces

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that decorated her rooms.

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[cats purr and meow]
Altogether, I think we

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were the “cat’s meow”.

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She was good friends with
one of the most opulent men

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of all time, King Louis XV.

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Have you ever seen
a painting of him?

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If not, imagine this:
[Energetic classical music]

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Long, flowing white curls,
heeled shoes, a long cape lined

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with spotted fur, and scepter
and sword of glittering gold.

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Ah, the height of fashion.

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[child says “Huh?”]
Oh, you disagree?

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No wonder people are showing
up to see me at the museum

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these days wearing sweatpants.
[sad trombone] 

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It seems that fashion 
is like color.

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Over time, the categories
of what’s popular shift.

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Still, I think your fit
checks could use some

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inspiration from Louis.

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[triumphant music]

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But although King Louis
and Madame de Pompadour

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might have been all about
opulence, not everyone

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appreciated their extravagance,
particularly not those who

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were forced to clean it.
[sweeping and voice sneezes]

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Our understanding of the past
is a matter of perspective, too.

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There are so many paintings
and records of the rich and

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famous, but most people in
France didn’t live like that.

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Take Madame de Pompadour’s 
Élysée Palace.

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[classical music begins]
It’s often remembered for

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its noble residents, but
the majority of the people

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living there were servants.

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I would see them starting
work long before the nobles

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awoke, and continuing late
into the evening when anyone

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would wanna be asleep.

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There were cooks, laundry staff,
dressers, valets, doormen,

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[voice says “Bonjour!”] a
librarian, and outside [birds]

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I could see gardeners,
groundskeepers, delivery and

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coachmen working with horses,
and other kinds of palace

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staff coming and going, all
working, working, working!

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One day, in my very own
apartment, a new valet

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de chambre named Martin
[bells chime] was cleaning

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out the fireplace.
[sweeping sounds] 

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As he was carrying 
out the ashes,

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he tripped [stumbles and
gasps] and dumped a cloud

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of black dust all over me!
[rumble and crash] 

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Now, I have been through 
many adventures.

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I have survived fiery kilns
and long ocean voyages.

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I had no fear, but the
young man panicked and

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ran out of the room.

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The other cat statues
around me were alarmed.

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One said Martin would be let go.

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Let go?

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Let to go, where?

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And the more experienced cats
told me this meant he would

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get fired from his job if his
boss, one of the senior valets,

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learned what had happened.

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I felt terrible.

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Surely no one would be
so severe over what was

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clearly an accident.

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But the other cats were
certain this mistake would

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not be taken lightly.

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Footsteps and voices approached.

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I braced myself for a shriek
of horror. [voice screams]

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Instead, Martin returned 
with a young

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woman who I had once seen
helping Madame with her skirts.

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She shook her head at Martin
and promptly got to work.

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[woman tsks] She had the
very softest cloth I had ever

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felt, and gently wiped away
the soot that covered me.

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As they cleaned, she gave
Martin an ear-raising lecture.

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It startled me to hear that
this palace was not just

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where Martin worked, it
was where he lived, too.

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He had a small bedroom
somewhere near the attic

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that he shared with someone
else, even though Madame

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de Pompadour had an entire
suite of bedrooms to herself.

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[Classical music resumes]

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It was shocking to me.

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But despite the small quarters
and the long working hours,

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Martin and his friend considered
themselves lucky to have

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their jobs working for Madame.

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They spoke of many in
France that were far

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worse off than they.

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I asked the other cat
statues if this was true.

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They said it was!

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Many of them had been made
in different parts of France,

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and they spoke of their
journeys, of the lives of

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craft makers, days peering out
through shop windows in towns,

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traveling by carriage and boat.

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There was great wealth
in France, yes, but there

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was also great poverty.

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I admit, I was flabbergasted,
and overhearing their

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discussions, I yearned
for adventure once more,

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to see all the people and
places they spoke about.

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Luckily for Martin, everything
was tidied up quickly.

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[voice says “Phew!”] Porcelain
is quite straightforward

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to clean, and Martin was
always much more careful

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when cleaning after that.

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Nonetheless, I felt
utterly changed.

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How close I had lived to
people who had entirely

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different experiences without
ever stopping to think

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of their side of things.

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I, who prided myself on being
a worldly traveler, still

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needed a new perspective
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As time went on, I listened to
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passed through the palace.

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Months turned into years, and
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Madame passed away, and I
began traveling again, bought

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and sold by wealthy patrons.

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As the ages passed, stories
were told of revolutions

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in the Americas and in
Europe, people standing

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up and demanding better.

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Hoping they could hear me, I
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things could be different!

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So a few decades later, when
in 1789, the people finally

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rose up, [crowds yelling]
of course I was thrilled

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and not at all surprised.

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Perhaps you can say I inspired
the French Revolution.

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I won’t correct you.

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[Triumphant music]

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But that, unfortunately,
is an adventure that must

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wait for another time.

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For now, I will leave you to
set out on your own adventure.

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What can you learn
today that can give your

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life a new perspective?

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Host: I hope you enjoyed
learning about trade, travel,

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and changing perspectives.

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Join us next time when a very
vexed man begrudgingly shares

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his relaxation techniques.
[voice grumbles]

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To see photographs of the
cat, visit our website at

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getty dot edu slash IOCT.

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We’ve also got a listening
guide with discussion questions

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and related activities there.

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This episode was written
by Claire Hupy and

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produced by Zoe Goldman.

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Austin Farmer voiced the cat.

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Theme music, mixing, and sound
design by Alexandra Kalinowski.

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Christopher Sprinkle
is executive producer.

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Special thanks to curators
Anne-Lise Desmas and

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Miriam Schefzyk, as
well as Rebekkah Hart.

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Special thanks too to John and
Amos McCue, and Felix Rice.

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These stories are
historical fiction.

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They’re based on historical
facts and deep research,

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but we’ve filled in the
gaps to make a good story.

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If you have questions about
what you’ve heard, write to us

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at podteam at getty dot edu.

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Catch you next time!

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