1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,230 Announcer: This is a Getty podcast. 2 00:00:05,690 --> 00:00:07,414 Host: When was the last time you had the chance to 3 00:00:07,414 --> 00:00:08,650 look at something up close? 4 00:00:09,099 --> 00:00:09,790 How close? 5 00:00:10,260 --> 00:00:13,809 What about really, really close? 6 00:00:13,809 --> 00:00:15,820 [Theme music begins] 7 00:00:15,820 --> 00:00:19,400 Welcome to If Objects Could Talk, the podcast where art 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,119 and artifacts come alive to tell their side of the story. 9 00:00:24,789 --> 00:00:27,830 Today, you’ll have to get in close because we’re 10 00:00:27,830 --> 00:00:29,849 hearing from something small. 11 00:00:30,170 --> 00:00:34,499 It’s so small you’d struggle to see it if it wasn’t pinned 12 00:00:34,509 --> 00:00:36,120 in place by a piece of glass. 13 00:00:36,599 --> 00:00:40,579 That’s right, our friend lives on the slide for a microscope. 14 00:00:40,889 --> 00:00:44,579 They’re a flea from a cat, which I know because the words 15 00:00:44,669 --> 00:00:48,529 “flea from a cat” are written in French right there on the 16 00:00:48,529 --> 00:00:51,089 slide in very fancy handwriting. 17 00:00:51,089 --> 00:00:51,089 18 00:00:51,090 --> 00:00:51,685 [Upbeat classical music plays] 19 00:00:51,685 --> 00:00:54,759 This slide has been stored in the case alongside a 20 00:00:54,770 --> 00:00:58,659 French compound microscope that was made around 1751. 21 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:02,849 The microscope has delicate glass lenses and shiny 22 00:01:02,899 --> 00:01:06,729 gilded bronze decorations made in the Rococo style. 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,249 That’s a word that is as fun to say as it is to look at. 24 00:01:10,809 --> 00:01:14,789 The microscope is objectively magnificent. 25 00:01:15,349 --> 00:01:19,219 Our guest, meanwhile, is—well, a flea. 26 00:01:20,500 --> 00:01:22,099 Flea: Greetings, one and all! 27 00:01:22,799 --> 00:01:27,640 I am the flea on the slide, specimen, subject, star! 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,399 [triumphant music] 29 00:01:31,399 --> 00:01:31,399 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,739 You may now cheer! 31 00:01:32,739 --> 00:01:35,489 [sound of crickets] Hmph. 32 00:01:35,489 --> 00:01:36,710 Crickets for a flea? 33 00:01:37,019 --> 00:01:39,879 Maybe you haven’t heard, but I’m a pretty big deal. 34 00:01:40,290 --> 00:01:42,999 If I wasn’t, why would they make my permanent dig so fancy? 35 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:47,659 Let me tell you about my home. [laughs and then sighs] 36 00:01:47,659 --> 00:01:49,809 I live in the drawer inside a case 37 00:01:49,829 --> 00:01:51,729 of a very fancy microscope. 38 00:01:52,379 --> 00:01:55,849 It was made in Paris around 1751. 39 00:01:55,849 --> 00:01:58,199 There are 10 like it that we know of, and one of 40 00:01:58,199 --> 00:02:02,260 them even belonged to Louis the 15th, King of France. 41 00:02:02,260 --> 00:02:04,000 [triumphant music] His collection had some of 42 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,449 the finest scientific instruments in the land. 43 00:02:06,449 --> 00:02:07,429 [Mellow classical music] 44 00:02:07,429 --> 00:02:10,140 This microscope was not just for looking at things. 45 00:02:10,369 --> 00:02:13,259 It was a status symbol with every detail 46 00:02:13,259 --> 00:02:14,759 executed to reflect that. 47 00:02:15,330 --> 00:02:18,660 The case is wood covered with gilded leather and gilt 48 00:02:18,690 --> 00:02:20,749 bronze hinges and clasps. 49 00:02:20,750 --> 00:02:23,799 Along with the extra lenses for the microscope and tiny 50 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,929 tweezers, the microscope is equipped with a wide range 51 00:02:26,929 --> 00:02:29,800 of accessories for its use that are still in the case. 52 00:02:30,809 --> 00:02:34,439 There are also other glass slides like mine that hold other 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,919 specimens, like geranium petals, a strand of hair, fly wings. 54 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,090 [fly buzzes] Poor guy. 55 00:02:42,039 --> 00:02:43,849 And an ant. 56 00:02:44,550 --> 00:02:46,090 I do not speak to the ant. 57 00:02:46,860 --> 00:02:47,371 Ant: Hey! [garbled chatter] 58 00:02:47,372 --> 00:02:47,372 59 00:02:47,372 --> 00:02:50,949 Flea: The ant thinks it’s so cool because it can carry 50 60 00:02:50,949 --> 00:02:52,629 times its own body weight. 61 00:02:53,289 --> 00:02:54,089 Congratulations! 62 00:02:54,419 --> 00:02:57,420 I can jump 150 times my body length! 63 00:02:57,420 --> 00:03:00,550 Do the math, ant. 64 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,780 Do the math. 65 00:03:03,590 --> 00:03:04,390 I’m distracted. 66 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,240 Oh, well, it is in my nature to jump from thing to thing. 67 00:03:08,250 --> 00:03:08,260 Hmph. 68 00:03:08,260 --> 00:03:09,520 [Light classical music] 69 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,320 When the microscope case is open, [case creaks open] 70 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,049 you will see it is lined with green silk velvet. 71 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,459 Not cotton, not felt—silk velvet. 72 00:03:20,139 --> 00:03:22,650 So luxurious, so opulent. 73 00:03:23,289 --> 00:03:26,069 You have to open this case with the appropriate level of awe 74 00:03:26,070 --> 00:03:27,219 and appreciation for Rococo. 75 00:03:28,559 --> 00:03:30,989 Rococo isn’t just a mouthful, it’s an eyeful. 76 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,490 Rococo is a style that was fashionable in 77 00:03:35,490 --> 00:03:36,990 Europe in the 1700s. 78 00:03:37,590 --> 00:03:40,830 It emphasized the beauty of nature, like seashells and 79 00:03:40,860 --> 00:03:45,019 leaves and swirls and curlicues on absolutely everything. 80 00:03:45,129 --> 00:03:45,469 Oh! 81 00:03:45,469 --> 00:03:49,090 [Classical music chord] 82 00:03:49,090 --> 00:03:51,669 This microscope stands on four feet shaped 83 00:03:51,669 --> 00:03:52,909 like acanthus leaves. 84 00:03:53,649 --> 00:03:56,340 Big curling leaves twisting into elegant C shapes. 85 00:03:56,549 --> 00:03:59,079 The body is gilded bronze, which means bronze with 86 00:03:59,079 --> 00:04:00,399 a layer of gold on top. 87 00:04:00,399 --> 00:04:02,220 [high pitch twinkle] The lens tube is covered in 88 00:04:02,589 --> 00:04:04,320 green shagreen, which is polished shark skin. 89 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,540 [water moves] At the top, the lens tube. 90 00:04:06,750 --> 00:04:09,979 In the middle, gears and dials so precise they still turn 91 00:04:09,979 --> 00:04:13,980 smoothly today, [gears shifting] more than 270 years later. 92 00:04:14,299 --> 00:04:17,480 If you’ve ever seen a microscope or used one at school, or a 93 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,529 science center or a museum, you’d recognize mine. 94 00:04:20,750 --> 00:04:24,170 Although I highly doubt yours was this gold, this fancy, 95 00:04:24,170 --> 00:04:27,869 or this great that it would still work centuries later. 96 00:04:28,509 --> 00:04:31,370 My fancy microscope and the others like it weren’t the 97 00:04:31,419 --> 00:04:32,889 only ones around at the time. 98 00:04:33,099 --> 00:04:36,590 There were simpler ones, less gilded, less shark-skin-y. 99 00:04:36,590 --> 00:04:40,690 [voice yawns] Those were accessible to a much wider 100 00:04:40,690 --> 00:04:43,869 range of people: a scholar, [a page turns] a physician, 101 00:04:43,869 --> 00:04:46,349 [voice says “Say ahh…”] a monk or a nun in a monastery [monks 102 00:04:46,349 --> 00:04:48,750 singing] with a library and a love of the natural world. 103 00:04:49,529 --> 00:04:51,859 Curiosity does not require gold fittings. 104 00:04:52,189 --> 00:04:54,619 After all, this was the Age of Enlightenment! 105 00:04:54,619 --> 00:04:56,839 [Triumphant classical music plays] 106 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,780 People building instruments to ask questions the naked 107 00:04:58,780 --> 00:04:59,959 eye could not answer. 108 00:05:00,649 --> 00:05:05,100 This microscope—my microscope—has three lenses 109 00:05:05,119 --> 00:05:07,029 working together in sequence. [mechanical shifting] 110 00:05:07,029 --> 00:05:09,539 Each one takes what the last one showed 111 00:05:09,539 --> 00:05:10,750 and makes it larger and clearer. 112 00:05:11,449 --> 00:05:14,619 That’s why it’s called a compound microscope, multiple 113 00:05:14,619 --> 00:05:17,330 lenses working together to show what none of them could show 114 00:05:17,330 --> 00:05:22,169 alone, opening up a cosmos that was hidden before, a fascinating 115 00:05:22,169 --> 00:05:25,859 world of the incredibly small, and in my case, the 116 00:05:25,860 --> 00:05:28,029 incredibly good-looking. [bell chimes] 117 00:05:28,029 --> 00:05:28,029 118 00:05:28,029 --> 00:05:30,550 To see through these lenses, you need light. 119 00:05:30,769 --> 00:05:33,539 In the daytime, the microscope was placed near a window to 120 00:05:33,539 --> 00:05:35,889 catch sunlight, and in the evening, candles were needed. 121 00:05:35,889 --> 00:05:38,309 [Classical music continues] 122 00:05:38,319 --> 00:05:42,979 Imagine it: Paris, 1751, a candlelit room, the scratch 123 00:05:42,979 --> 00:05:46,089 of a quill on paper, someone making notes about what 124 00:05:46,089 --> 00:05:47,319 appears under the glass. 125 00:05:47,809 --> 00:05:50,439 They’re pressing one eye to the brass tube, the other squeezed 126 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:57,399 shut, and suddenly, there I am: the flea, gorgeous, magnificent, 127 00:05:57,969 --> 00:06:01,790 total package, my adorable cat-like whiskers, my body 128 00:06:01,790 --> 00:06:04,160 like a polished suit of armor. [metallic clunk] 129 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:04,160 130 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,820 It’s giving: hero. [triumphant trumpet] 131 00:06:05,820 --> 00:06:09,509 You know, someone called me a knight once. 132 00:06:09,509 --> 00:06:11,450 [voice says “no way.”] It’s true. I’ll tell 133 00:06:11,450 --> 00:06:12,219 you about it later. 134 00:06:12,619 --> 00:06:15,440 Uh, back to the someone with his eye pressed to the brass tube. 135 00:06:15,730 --> 00:06:16,860 Who was that someone? 136 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,699 It was Michel Ferdinand d’Albert d’Ailly, Duc de Chaulnes. 137 00:06:23,549 --> 00:06:27,169 That is a name you say slowly and with your chin slightly 138 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:30,160 raised, if you are fortunate enough to have a chin. 139 00:06:30,939 --> 00:06:33,019 Let’s say that together, and if you have a chin, 140 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,219 lift it a little higher: Michel Ferdinand d’Albert 141 00:06:37,219 --> 00:06:43,459 d’Ailly, Duc de Chaulnes. 142 00:06:43,459 --> 00:06:44,100 Nice! 143 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:44,869 The Duc de Chaulnes 144 00:06:44,869 --> 00:06:46,569 was a pioneering scientist. 145 00:06:46,669 --> 00:06:48,630 [typing sounds] He made major discoveries 146 00:06:48,630 --> 00:06:51,219 in optics, geography, astronomy, and physics. 147 00:06:51,789 --> 00:06:54,780 He was invited to join the Academy of Sciences, the 148 00:06:54,780 --> 00:06:57,320 official group for important thinkers like the Duc. 149 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,135 [triumphant horns] 150 00:06:58,135 --> 00:06:59,359 [Classical music resumes] 151 00:06:59,359 --> 00:07:03,230 He was also very close with King Louis the 15th, and 152 00:07:03,230 --> 00:07:05,589 helped design the cabinet of curiosities for the king. 153 00:07:06,739 --> 00:07:11,070 He even invented the micrometric stage, a cutting edge tool 154 00:07:11,110 --> 00:07:13,789 that enabled the very precise measurement of specimens. 155 00:07:14,339 --> 00:07:15,900 What a gift to science! 156 00:07:16,459 --> 00:07:16,849 Oh! [sighs happily] 157 00:07:18,379 --> 00:07:20,899 The Duc might have kept his microscope in what was 158 00:07:20,900 --> 00:07:25,399 called a cabinet de curiosité, a small room that held a private 159 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,869 collection of natural marvels. [voices say “ooh!”] 160 00:07:27,869 --> 00:07:30,140 Like shells, bones, feathers, 161 00:07:30,169 --> 00:07:31,480 and other specimens. 162 00:07:32,049 --> 00:07:38,599 Specimens like me! [triumphant horns] 163 00:07:38,599 --> 00:07:38,599 164 00:07:38,599 --> 00:07:41,199 Well, at least they tried to be like me. 165 00:07:41,610 --> 00:07:43,199 You do what you can with what you’ve got. 166 00:07:43,629 --> 00:07:45,780 Let me tell you a story about that. 167 00:07:45,780 --> 00:07:46,650 [Classical music resumes] 168 00:07:46,650 --> 00:07:49,309 [crickets chirping] Outside the Paris city limits, the light 169 00:07:49,339 --> 00:07:52,210 in the countryside was long and golden through the windows. 170 00:07:52,909 --> 00:07:55,899 A boy, maybe 10 years old, had been running through 171 00:07:55,899 --> 00:07:57,359 the home, causing mayhem. 172 00:07:58,189 --> 00:08:00,399 I could hear him from my case. [child running and laughing] 173 00:08:00,399 --> 00:08:00,399 174 00:08:00,399 --> 00:08:03,390 I overheard his father tell him to go outside and 175 00:08:03,399 --> 00:08:06,450 bring back subjects for scientific investigation. 176 00:08:07,069 --> 00:08:10,639 That did the trick, because the boy ran out of the door and did 177 00:08:10,649 --> 00:08:12,250 not return for almost two hours. 178 00:08:13,050 --> 00:08:14,370 Nice and quiet. 179 00:08:15,319 --> 00:08:17,940 When the boy came back inside, bringing the noise 180 00:08:17,940 --> 00:08:21,580 and mud with him, he did not return empty-handed. 181 00:08:21,819 --> 00:08:23,589 [crickets chirp and door shuts] He had several teeny-tiny 182 00:08:23,599 --> 00:08:26,740 objects for review under the microscope: a sliver of tree 183 00:08:26,740 --> 00:08:30,509 bark, assorted flower petals in different sizes and colors, 184 00:08:30,699 --> 00:08:33,049 a clump of dirt, and a leaf. 185 00:08:33,889 --> 00:08:35,653 His father went to his desk and opened the microscope case. 186 00:08:35,653 --> 00:08:38,769 [door creeks open] The green silk velvet, the 187 00:08:38,769 --> 00:08:39,859 gleaming instrument. [gasps] 188 00:08:39,860 --> 00:08:43,559 One by one, the two of them placed these little 189 00:08:43,619 --> 00:08:46,760 collected treasures on the microscope, and the boy pressed 190 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,999 his eye to the tube and saw a new world unfold: craters 191 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,640 in the bark, rivers of veins through the flower petal 192 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,260 and leaf, and tiny crystals in the spattering of soil. 193 00:08:58,340 --> 00:09:01,290 When they ran out of the garden things to look at, they reached 194 00:09:01,300 --> 00:09:05,620 for my slide, because I am a headlining act, you know! 195 00:09:06,540 --> 00:09:11,030 [triumphant horns] The boy was quiet for a moment, and then 196 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:15,560 he said, “It’s armored! [metal clinks] It has armor like a 197 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:19,040 knight and whiskers like a cat.” [cat meows] And then he 198 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,409 said the best thing of all! 199 00:09:20,510 --> 00:09:23,089 He said I have so much character! 200 00:09:23,089 --> 00:09:26,650 [cheers exuberantly] Boy, that made me feel good. 201 00:09:27,149 --> 00:09:30,139 I might be a little guy, but I’ve got lots of character, 202 00:09:30,489 --> 00:09:31,829 and someone noticed! 203 00:09:32,829 --> 00:09:34,890 I have never forgotten that. 204 00:09:36,029 --> 00:09:37,710 It’s nice to be seen. 205 00:09:38,369 --> 00:09:40,889 When is the last time you looked closely at something? 206 00:09:41,430 --> 00:09:43,579 You do know you don’t need to be a duke or have a 207 00:09:43,579 --> 00:09:46,459 case lined in silk velvet to ask good questions and 208 00:09:46,629 --> 00:09:47,620 look closely at the world. 209 00:09:48,239 --> 00:09:50,129 Your school may have a microscope. 210 00:09:50,449 --> 00:09:53,630 A science center or museum near you almost certainly does. 211 00:09:54,049 --> 00:09:57,409 You might even find a simple one at home, probably without 212 00:09:57,410 --> 00:10:00,689 a single drop of gilded bronze on it, but with every bit 213 00:10:00,689 --> 00:10:03,729 as much power to open that door to the small world. 214 00:10:04,099 --> 00:10:07,869 So here is what I want you to do: find a microscope, and 215 00:10:07,869 --> 00:10:11,600 when you do, find something small and seemingly ordinary, 216 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,520 and take another look at it, a real look, the kind 217 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,069 where you lean in and study 218 00:10:19,589 --> 00:10:19,809 what you’re looking at. 219 00:10:19,809 --> 00:10:21,199 What do you see that you have never seen before? 220 00:10:21,979 --> 00:10:22,700 How can you describe it? 221 00:10:23,329 --> 00:10:24,079 How would you draw it? 222 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:27,469 Do you feel like the first scientists who got to look at 223 00:10:27,470 --> 00:10:30,540 things up close and then figure out how to share these new 224 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,109 worlds with the whole big world? 225 00:10:33,540 --> 00:10:35,429 Do let me know what you found. 226 00:10:35,629 --> 00:10:37,549 I like keeping track of all the exceptional 227 00:10:37,549 --> 00:10:40,250 characters that might one day replace this pesky ant. 228 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:41,769 Hmph! 229 00:10:41,889 --> 00:10:45,250 Now, if you will excuse me, I have a slide case to get back 230 00:10:45,250 --> 00:10:50,270 to—silk velvet, gold fittings, the most magnificent microscope 231 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,789 in the history of small things. 232 00:10:52,789 --> 00:10:55,229 [Theme music begins] 233 00:10:55,229 --> 00:10:57,079 Host: I hope you enjoyed learning about 234 00:10:57,079 --> 00:10:58,859 Rococo and microscopes. 235 00:11:00,329 --> 00:11:04,380 Join us next time when a brave cat bounds into the studio. 236 00:11:05,149 --> 00:11:07,440 [cat meows] To see photographs of the microscope as well 237 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,369 as videos of it in action, visit our website at 238 00:11:11,369 --> 00:11:13,649 Getty dot edu slash IOCT. 239 00:11:15,839 --> 00:11:18,599 We’ve also got a listening guide with discussion questions 240 00:11:18,660 --> 00:11:20,399 and related activities there. 241 00:11:21,300 --> 00:11:24,129 This episode was written by Tocarra Elise and 242 00:11:24,129 --> 00:11:25,840 produced by Zoe Goldman. 243 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,519 Yeon Jin voiced the flea. 244 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,220 Theme music, mixing, and sound design by Alexandra Kalinowski. 245 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:36,070 Christopher Sprinkle is executive producer. 246 00:11:36,639 --> 00:11:39,429 Special thanks to curators Anne-Lise Desmas and 247 00:11:39,429 --> 00:11:42,029 Miriam Schefzyk, as well as Rebekkah Hart. 248 00:11:42,330 --> 00:11:44,359 These stories are historical fiction. 249 00:11:44,599 --> 00:11:47,439 They’re based on historical facts and deep research, 250 00:11:47,449 --> 00:11:50,279 but we’ve filled in the gaps to make a good story. 251 00:11:50,879 --> 00:11:53,740 If you have questions about what you’ve heard, write to us 252 00:11:53,940 --> 00:11:56,950 at podteam at getty dot edu. 253 00:11:57,300 --> 00:11:58,300 Catch you next time!