1 00:00:00,850 --> 00:00:02,230 Announcer: This is a Getty 2 00:00:05,090 --> 00:00:05,100 podcast. 3 00:00:05,100 --> 00:00:09,389 Host: Signed, sealed, delivered—today a special gem 4 00:00:09,500 --> 00:00:11,760 shares some important news! 5 00:00:12,639 --> 00:00:17,340 Welcome to If Objects Could Talk, a podcast where art 6 00:00:17,379 --> 00:00:20,740 and artifacts get to leave the museum vault and tell 7 00:00:20,790 --> 00:00:22,610 their side of the story. 8 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:26,960 Thanks for joining us as we bring objects into the light! 9 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:30,869 How would your best friend describe you? 10 00:00:31,259 --> 00:00:33,019 Are you responsible? 11 00:00:33,509 --> 00:00:34,699 A party animal? 12 00:00:34,949 --> 00:00:36,749 Maybe a little bit of both? 13 00:00:37,410 --> 00:00:41,680 Well today we meet a satyr who is half man, half 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,650 goat, and all storyteller. 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,210 Satyrs are mythical woodland creatures known for their love 16 00:00:49,219 --> 00:00:53,150 of parties—and for playing the occasional trick on people. 17 00:00:53,719 --> 00:00:57,669 Our guest might love a good time, but he can be serious 18 00:00:57,700 --> 00:01:01,590 when he needs to be, because he had an important job 19 00:01:01,590 --> 00:01:06,369 to do: sealing letters and official documents in wax. 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,919 Before tape or that weird envelope glue you have to 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,240 lick, wax and seals kept private papers private. 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,640 OK, enough background, let's get this podcast party started! 23 00:01:25,410 --> 00:01:29,079 Satyr: Whoa, dudes, most excellent to make 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:29,770 your acquaintance. 25 00:01:30,949 --> 00:01:33,660 It’s a really big deal to be here. 26 00:01:33,820 --> 00:01:36,139 No one ever lets me talk. 27 00:01:36,380 --> 00:01:39,239 Apparently, I have a gnarly accent. 28 00:01:39,740 --> 00:01:42,410 I’ll need to be done in like ten because it’s my turn 29 00:01:42,410 --> 00:01:46,369 to DJ, and I can finally play some sweet oldies. 30 00:01:49,750 --> 00:01:52,729 Speaking of oldies, let's talk about me! 31 00:01:53,470 --> 00:01:56,570 I’m carved into an oval-shaped gemstone, over 32 00:01:56,570 --> 00:01:58,939 two thousand years old. 33 00:01:59,849 --> 00:02:03,760 I’m made of cornelian which is a type of red-orange 34 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,949 gem or maybe orange-red? 35 00:02:08,279 --> 00:02:11,450 Anyway, my gem is about the size of a small 36 00:02:11,460 --> 00:02:13,180 button on a fancy shirt. 37 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,030 One side of the gemstone is me! 38 00:02:16,270 --> 00:02:20,350 I’m a Satyr, which is absolutely so sick. 39 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,410 I’ve got the head and torso of a dude, but the legs of 40 00:02:27,410 --> 00:02:31,820 a goat and the ears, tail, and horns of a goat, too! 41 00:02:32,679 --> 00:02:34,100 Ha-ha nice! 42 00:02:34,650 --> 00:02:35,730 Gimmie five man. 43 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,770 I think the gem engraver got my good side. 44 00:02:42,070 --> 00:02:45,680 I’m doing this cool satyr dance called sikinnis. 45 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,430 I’m just kinda prancing around like a goat. 46 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,430 Satyrs are nature spirits known for having a good time, 47 00:02:56,620 --> 00:03:00,440 so it absolutely checks out that I’d be busting a move. 48 00:03:01,119 --> 00:03:04,370 The scene of me dancing is framed by a dotted border 49 00:03:04,570 --> 00:03:05,870 which is a nice touch. 50 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:06,880 But wait! 51 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:07,589 There’s more! 52 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,370 On my opposite side, the gemstone is shaped 53 00:03:12,370 --> 00:03:13,880 like a scarab beetle. 54 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,239 Say “what's up?”, beetle buddy! 55 00:03:17,149 --> 00:03:19,859 Scarab: [buzzing] How do you do? 56 00:03:20,799 --> 00:03:20,829 Satyr: Bro! 57 00:03:21,119 --> 00:03:22,450 I love that guy! 58 00:03:22,630 --> 00:03:27,490 Scarabs represent protection, which I need, because sometimes 59 00:03:27,570 --> 00:03:31,179 I like to have a little too much fun playing tricks, and my 60 00:03:31,179 --> 00:03:34,709 little beetle buddy is always coming in clutch with the assist 61 00:03:34,869 --> 00:03:39,620 before I land in hot water...or should I say hot wax?! 62 00:03:40,220 --> 00:03:40,740 Right, dude? 63 00:03:41,310 --> 00:03:42,060 Scarab: Indubitably. 64 00:03:42,850 --> 00:03:44,390 Satyr: Aw, was that a sneeze? 65 00:03:45,309 --> 00:03:46,750 Bless you, beetle buddy! 66 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,549 Me and the scarab weren't just created to look 67 00:03:50,570 --> 00:03:55,010 good—which would be totally fair—we also had a job. 68 00:03:55,590 --> 00:03:59,799 We had to seal important messages so that A: recipients 69 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,140 knew the messages were from a specific person and 2: the 70 00:04:04,140 --> 00:04:06,480 message was secure like a vault! 71 00:04:07,770 --> 00:04:12,070 If the seal was broken, you’d know someone had peeked inside! 72 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,620 Totally bogus. 73 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,740 Because the scarab was the protection side, he was the 74 00:04:17,740 --> 00:04:20,230 one worn facing out on a ring. 75 00:04:20,709 --> 00:04:23,489 When a message or document needed to be sealed, 76 00:04:23,690 --> 00:04:28,669 the gem flipped, and the engraved side—me—was 77 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,619 stamped in the hot wax. 78 00:04:31,289 --> 00:04:32,750 I didn’t like that part, dude. 79 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,909 Not cool, very hot actually! 80 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,450 Yep, that’s probably why I’m leaping and twirling, because 81 00:04:39,450 --> 00:04:42,130 I’m doing my “too hot” dance! 82 00:04:43,460 --> 00:04:47,030 Yeah, I’ve been in Cali for awhile, but I'm originally 83 00:04:47,030 --> 00:04:51,520 from Etruria, a pre-Roman civilization from around the 84 00:04:51,540 --> 00:04:53,890 areas where Tuscany is today. 85 00:04:54,490 --> 00:04:58,000 Geographically, it’s the top of the Italian boot 86 00:04:58,070 --> 00:05:00,150 and dooooooown the middle. 87 00:05:00,150 --> 00:05:03,590 [laughs] The Etruscans were so awesome. 88 00:05:03,830 --> 00:05:06,289 Lots things you love about the Romans? 89 00:05:06,699 --> 00:05:08,299 They got it from the Etruscans. 90 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,810 Gladiator games! 91 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:12,310 Togas! 92 00:05:12,940 --> 00:05:15,099 Divination using animal organs! 93 00:05:16,219 --> 00:05:18,240 The Etruscans did it first. 94 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:22,249 Yeah, even that! 95 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:26,039 The military celebration after a triumph in battle 96 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,610 is soooooo Etruscan, dude. 97 00:05:28,930 --> 00:05:32,609 We may have been first in those things, but everybody borrows 98 00:05:32,730 --> 00:05:36,310 from everybody, especially if you’re on a trade route like 99 00:05:36,310 --> 00:05:38,319 many parts of Etruria were. 100 00:05:38,570 --> 00:05:39,860 My little beetle buddy? 101 00:05:40,190 --> 00:05:41,779 Totally Egyptian, dude. 102 00:05:43,330 --> 00:05:47,840 Yep, brought to Etruria by way of the Greeks and Phoenicians. 103 00:05:49,030 --> 00:05:51,280 Hey, I’ve got a great idea! 104 00:05:51,860 --> 00:05:53,710 Let’s talk about how we were made! 105 00:05:53,770 --> 00:05:55,379 Oh, it’s so sick, bro. 106 00:05:55,599 --> 00:05:56,409 Check this out: 107 00:05:56,849 --> 00:06:01,340 First a gem was selected and cut into a small shape. 108 00:06:01,870 --> 00:06:06,270 The Etruscans liked cornelian because it’s gorgeous and 109 00:06:06,270 --> 00:06:09,440 it didn’t stick to the hot wax when sealing a document. 110 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,890 They used teeny tiny drills—like hand-powered ones, not electric 111 00:06:15,890 --> 00:06:18,730 or battery powered like you might have at home—and 112 00:06:18,750 --> 00:06:22,250 dipped them into a mixture of olive oil and powder 113 00:06:22,300 --> 00:06:24,520 made from even harder gems. 114 00:06:24,730 --> 00:06:29,350 This let the craftsmen carve the stone in the finest detail. 115 00:06:29,730 --> 00:06:32,820 The carving on the underside of the gemstone, which would rest 116 00:06:32,820 --> 00:06:37,990 against the body, was called an intaglio, or sunken image. 117 00:06:38,410 --> 00:06:41,340 These scenes were usually mythological heroes 118 00:06:41,390 --> 00:06:43,210 or creatures like me! 119 00:06:46,820 --> 00:06:49,780 Scarab gemstones could be unique to the wearer 120 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:53,069 and would highlight a family’s name or specific 121 00:06:53,100 --> 00:06:54,900 characteristics of the owner. 122 00:06:55,310 --> 00:06:59,010 My guy was a party animal, so that tracks! 123 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,050 I'm curious, if you wrote a message to someone, and you 124 00:07:06,050 --> 00:07:09,030 didn’t use your name on the paper, how would they, like, 125 00:07:09,250 --> 00:07:10,999 know the message was from you? 126 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:13,130 What would your seal be? 127 00:07:13,650 --> 00:07:16,690 Maybe a mermaid because you love to swim? 128 00:07:17,810 --> 00:07:20,270 Or a cookie because you could eat those for 129 00:07:20,270 --> 00:07:21,950 breakfast, lunch, and dinner? 130 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,340 Whoa, let's just take a second to think about 131 00:07:26,610 --> 00:07:29,390 all the possibilities. 132 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,859 Now, can you draw your new seal? 133 00:07:35,270 --> 00:07:38,150 Then you can write a letter to a friend or family member 134 00:07:38,170 --> 00:07:41,190 telling them about your seal and why it represents you. 135 00:07:41,870 --> 00:07:44,980 Speaking of being yourself, let me tell you about 136 00:07:44,980 --> 00:07:47,520 Velia and her Uncle Nico. 137 00:07:47,730 --> 00:07:51,510 Now, Nico knew how to have a good time. 138 00:07:51,990 --> 00:07:55,210 He was the life of the party, dude, like me! 139 00:07:56,710 --> 00:08:00,639 Nico was the proud uncle of a lovely niece, Velia. 140 00:08:01,190 --> 00:08:03,600 She was the ambitious, hardworking type. 141 00:08:03,929 --> 00:08:06,900 Velia hoped to be a model Etruscan woman when she 142 00:08:06,900 --> 00:08:10,039 grew up—maybe buy some property, head up her own 143 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,719 family, and even speak loudly at the occasional party. 144 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,830 Those Etruscan women could be powerful, dude! 145 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,299 For Velia’s twelfth birthday, all she really wanted was 146 00:08:22,309 --> 00:08:26,380 for her uncle to do an honest day’s work...and a donkey. 147 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,660 They could use one on their family farm. 148 00:08:31,030 --> 00:08:33,209 But she didn’t want just any donkey. 149 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,500 She wanted a donkey that she had seen a few months ago 150 00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:38,069 when traveling for a wedding. 151 00:08:38,380 --> 00:08:41,799 The donkey lived nearly half a day’s journey away! 152 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,950 She made her birthday request complicated on purpose, bro! 153 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,510 She tasked Uncle Nico with getting her the donkey, and with 154 00:08:50,510 --> 00:08:54,420 her parents’ permission, she planned on making the trip, too. 155 00:08:54,969 --> 00:08:58,569 Several days later, and armed with a bill of exchange sealed 156 00:08:58,570 --> 00:09:03,250 by yours truly, Velia and Uncle Nico set off to get that 157 00:09:03,260 --> 00:09:07,040 beast of burden in exchange for two old, fluffy sheep. 158 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,810 Me and Beetle Buddy went with them. 159 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,750 Etruscans traded between cities all the time so we just 160 00:09:14,750 --> 00:09:16,350 followed the Etruscan road! 161 00:09:16,779 --> 00:09:20,850 Velia was like, so impressed with her Uncle for being willing 162 00:09:20,850 --> 00:09:22,420 to make this birthday trip. 163 00:09:23,070 --> 00:09:26,100 He regaled her with tales of the cities he had traveled 164 00:09:26,110 --> 00:09:29,209 to, and she taught him that it was probably not a 165 00:09:29,210 --> 00:09:32,630 good idea to eat just any berry he found on a bush. 166 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,370 Half-way through, they were ready for a rest stop. 167 00:09:36,549 --> 00:09:39,320 So they moved off the road and snacked on the figs 168 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,490 and olives they’d brought. 169 00:09:40,990 --> 00:09:43,540 Your classic ancient road trip snacks. 170 00:09:43,550 --> 00:09:43,630 Then Uncle 171 00:09:45,900 --> 00:09:47,709 Nico daydreamed a while. 172 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,449 Velia took a little nap and dream-dreamed. 173 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,089 Peaceful, you know? 174 00:09:53,639 --> 00:09:56,660 But, it wouldn't be a good story if there wasn't a 175 00:09:56,660 --> 00:09:58,810 little bit of drama right? 176 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,949 So I decided to play a little game of hide the 177 00:10:02,970 --> 00:10:07,370 sheep and encouraged one to go for a little walkabout. 178 00:10:08,260 --> 00:10:10,350 [laughs] It was going to be so funny to see them 179 00:10:10,350 --> 00:10:11,889 looking for that fluffy guy! 180 00:10:12,290 --> 00:10:14,970 I love a harmless prank on the open road! 181 00:10:15,690 --> 00:10:18,469 Velia woke up and noticed that they were down a 182 00:10:18,470 --> 00:10:21,469 sheep, and boy was she mad! 183 00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:25,539 She totally blamed her uncle who could have easily watched 184 00:10:25,540 --> 00:10:27,199 the clouds and the sheep! 185 00:10:27,740 --> 00:10:32,435 With one sheep, one uncle, and one dashing satyr-scarab 186 00:10:32,890 --> 00:10:38,470 duo, Velia led the charge to find the missing sheep. 187 00:10:43,219 --> 00:10:45,630 At the edge of the clearing where they had been resting 188 00:10:45,660 --> 00:10:48,329 was a deep, dark forest. 189 00:10:48,990 --> 00:10:53,390 With the lost sheep nowhere in sight, Velia, true Etrsucan 190 00:10:53,410 --> 00:10:57,600 leader that she was, figured it was time to check the forest. 191 00:10:58,469 --> 00:11:02,870 Velia and Uncle Nico were deep into their search when all of 192 00:11:02,870 --> 00:11:05,389 a sudden we heard rustling. 193 00:11:05,789 --> 00:11:08,670 We all got pretty excited because we figured it was that 194 00:11:08,670 --> 00:11:12,440 fluffy sheep and we could grab him and laugh at my funny trick. 195 00:11:13,820 --> 00:11:15,360 Not so, my dudes. 196 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,300 It was a wild boar. 197 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:20,840 A big one! 198 00:11:21,380 --> 00:11:25,290 The boar stared at us and we stared at him. 199 00:11:25,620 --> 00:11:29,180 The boar charged and Uncle Nico and Velia ran 200 00:11:29,340 --> 00:11:30,680 as fast as they could. 201 00:11:31,390 --> 00:11:34,800 As they neared the forest’s edge, Velia grabbed Uncle Nico's 202 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,169 hand and pointed at the steep rocks ahead past the clearing. 203 00:11:38,639 --> 00:11:41,240 They just had to reach higher ground! 204 00:11:42,139 --> 00:11:44,660 Boars are notoriously bad rock climbers. 205 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,890 Once they made it to the rocks, Uncle Nico climbed 206 00:11:47,890 --> 00:11:51,110 up first and then yanked up Velia by the arm, but the 207 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,230 boar was still right there at the bottom waiting for them! 208 00:11:55,030 --> 00:11:58,650 Nico thought fast and threw down his figs and a sliver 209 00:11:58,650 --> 00:12:01,349 of Velia's birthday honey cake he’d been saving. 210 00:12:01,550 --> 00:12:06,210 The boar devoured them in seconds and then left! 211 00:12:08,230 --> 00:12:10,959 It’s like all it wanted was a little treat! 212 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:11,630 Insane! 213 00:12:12,009 --> 00:12:12,229 Velia 214 00:12:16,100 --> 00:12:18,490 looked at her Uncle differently from then on. 215 00:12:18,930 --> 00:12:21,959 He wasn’t just a cool, if somewhat irresponsible, 216 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:22,949 party animal. 217 00:12:23,250 --> 00:12:26,880 He was the guy who stayed calm in a crisis and 218 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,079 could think on his feet. 219 00:12:28,410 --> 00:12:31,290 And he was also the Uncle willing to make sure 220 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,809 she got exactly what she wanted for her birthday. 221 00:12:35,420 --> 00:12:38,670 At this point, all she wanted was to go home. 222 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,300 They could check out the donkeys in the neighborhood. 223 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,810 Oh, you wanna know what happened to the lost sheep? 224 00:12:45,260 --> 00:12:45,939 Ha, dude! 225 00:12:46,420 --> 00:12:49,890 From the rock formation they spotted him easily, on the other 226 00:12:49,890 --> 00:12:52,280 side of the rock fast asleep. 227 00:12:57,100 --> 00:13:00,260 So much for my “harmless prank,” right? We never even 228 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,670 had to go into that forest! I did feel bad, but I learned 229 00:13:04,670 --> 00:13:07,950 a valuable lesson: don’t play hide the sheep on a 230 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,889 business slash birthday trip! 231 00:13:10,879 --> 00:13:14,600 Well hey, this has been totally chill, but it’s 232 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,140 time to play my set, dude. 233 00:13:16,740 --> 00:13:19,220 Maybe next time you can come sit in on a sesh. 234 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,220 Later! 235 00:13:28,340 --> 00:13:31,130 Host: I hope you enjoyed learning about satyrs and 236 00:13:33,650 --> 00:13:33,670 Etruria! 237 00:13:33,670 --> 00:13:37,280 Join us next time when a horse unlocks a mystery. 238 00:13:38,540 --> 00:13:41,530 To see photographs of the satyr gem and learn more, 239 00:13:41,590 --> 00:13:46,449 visit our website at Getty dot edu slash podcasts. 240 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,180 This episode was written by Tocarra Elise and 241 00:13:50,180 --> 00:13:51,750 produced by Zoe Goldman. 242 00:13:52,170 --> 00:13:54,590 Isaac Robinson-Smith voiced the satyr. 243 00:13:54,740 --> 00:13:58,680 Theme music, mixing and sound design by Alexandra Kalinowski. 244 00:13:59,340 --> 00:14:01,709 Christopher Sprinkle is executive producer. 245 00:14:02,349 --> 00:14:05,209 Special thanks to curators Ken Lapatin, Judith 246 00:14:05,219 --> 00:14:06,990 Barr, and Hana Sugioka. 247 00:14:07,450 --> 00:14:08,380 Catch you next time!