1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,250 Announcer: This is a Getty Podcast. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,140 Host: What covers over seventy one percent of the 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,999 earth’s surface, but is a huge challenge to carry home? 4 00:00:12,849 --> 00:00:13,929 It’s water! 5 00:00:14,330 --> 00:00:18,750 Welcome to If Objects Could Talk, a podcast where art 6 00:00:18,860 --> 00:00:22,020 and artifacts get to leave the museum vault and tell 7 00:00:22,090 --> 00:00:23,770 their side of the story. 8 00:00:24,509 --> 00:00:27,920 Thanks for joining us as we bring objects into the light! 9 00:00:29,759 --> 00:00:33,110 How long does it take you to get a sip of water? 10 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:36,480 Maybe it’s the time it takes to walk to the kitchen 11 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:37,770 and turn on the sink. 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,059 Or the time it takes to go from the classroom to the 13 00:00:43,060 --> 00:00:44,250 hallway water fountain. 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,730 Or maybe you’ve already got a water bottle in arm’s reach. 15 00:00:51,110 --> 00:00:55,850 We all need water to survive, so as people built towns and 16 00:00:55,850 --> 00:00:59,720 cities, we had to find ways to bring water along with us. 17 00:01:00,110 --> 00:01:03,190 Today’s object was one tool people used for that. 18 00:01:03,599 --> 00:01:07,439 It’s a special type of Greek water jug called a hydria. 19 00:01:08,059 --> 00:01:11,430 Like many others from this period, this water jug was 20 00:01:11,449 --> 00:01:13,670 painted with a beautiful scene. 21 00:01:14,020 --> 00:01:17,440 This time, with three women, wearing a kind of draped 22 00:01:17,510 --> 00:01:20,160 tunic called a “chiton.” [women laugh] They’re getting 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,930 ready, holding jewelry, mirrors, and other objects. 24 00:01:24,509 --> 00:01:28,130 Lucky for us, one of these ladies is dying to spill. 25 00:01:30,719 --> 00:01:32,979 Woman on the Hydria: Rumor has it, you’re interested 26 00:01:32,990 --> 00:01:34,360 in some ancient gossip. 27 00:01:35,810 --> 00:01:35,940 [women laugh] 28 00:01:35,940 --> 00:01:39,700 Well, get yourself a glass and come on over, Sugar, because 29 00:01:39,700 --> 00:01:43,830 we might be on a water jug, but we’re here to spill the tea. 30 00:01:45,889 --> 00:01:47,789 First up, get a good look at us! 31 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,250 We’re on a type of vase called a “hydria” which ancient Greeks 32 00:01:52,250 --> 00:01:53,590 used to carry water around. 33 00:01:55,190 --> 00:01:58,010 Back before indoor plumbing, it was the only 34 00:01:58,010 --> 00:02:01,910 way to stay “hydria-ated.” 35 00:02:03,330 --> 00:02:04,369 Alright—tough crowd. 36 00:02:04,670 --> 00:02:07,180 Look, if you’re gonna be rude, you can go. 37 00:02:07,450 --> 00:02:10,130 We’ve got plenty to gossip about amongst ourselves. 38 00:02:10,539 --> 00:02:12,790 There are three of us ladies painted on this 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:13,989 hydria, after all. 40 00:02:14,490 --> 00:02:17,850 I’m the one who has had the luxury of sitting for the past 41 00:02:17,980 --> 00:02:21,310 two thousand, four hundred years, ever since we were 42 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,369 made back in Athens, Greece. 43 00:02:23,980 --> 00:02:25,900 The women on either side of me? 44 00:02:26,130 --> 00:02:28,329 They had to stand this entire time. 45 00:02:28,329 --> 00:02:30,110 [aside] Do you ladies need a water break? 46 00:02:30,110 --> 00:02:30,910 Other Woman: Nah, we’re good. 47 00:02:30,940 --> 00:02:31,690 Thanks, Doll. 48 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,820 Woman on the Hydria: Our hydria was probably used for special 49 00:02:34,820 --> 00:02:39,169 occasions, such as festivals or when company came over. 50 00:02:39,420 --> 00:02:42,630 Sort of like having special plates for Thanksgiving instead 51 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:44,110 of using your everyday set. 52 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,890 Our hydria is a little smaller than a volleyball. 53 00:02:49,780 --> 00:02:52,849 That's smaller than your regular, everyday hydrias, which 54 00:02:52,849 --> 00:02:56,170 had to be large to make sure you weren't running to the water 55 00:02:56,170 --> 00:02:57,929 fountain a hundred times a day. 56 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:07,460 Some hydrias are twice our size! 57 00:03:08,679 --> 00:03:12,280 We're also more decorated than everyday Hydrias, which 58 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,009 were usually just plain clay. 59 00:03:14,490 --> 00:03:18,109 Our hydria is mostly painted black, except for 60 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:22,454 us, the three figures, that are a gorgeous red color. 61 00:03:22,454 --> 00:03:26,510 How did the Greeks make us so striking? 62 00:03:26,970 --> 00:03:29,469 Honey, it’s all about terracotta. 63 00:03:30,799 --> 00:03:35,109 Terracotta means “baked earth” and the earth around Athens 64 00:03:35,119 --> 00:03:37,240 had a lot of iron oxide in it. 65 00:03:37,740 --> 00:03:41,340 The iron gives our vase a distinctive red color. 66 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,659 To add decoration, pottery workers painted with a mixture 67 00:03:45,660 --> 00:03:50,750 of clay and water called “slip.” The slip was barely visible 68 00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:52,249 when it was first added on. 69 00:03:52,619 --> 00:03:57,630 But never underestimate the power of turning up the heat! 70 00:03:59,620 --> 00:04:02,880 As potters carefully heated and cooled their creations, 71 00:04:03,230 --> 00:04:07,330 trapping and releasing oxygen and smoke, the slip would 72 00:04:07,330 --> 00:04:10,889 react differently from the unpainted areas of the pottery. 73 00:04:11,350 --> 00:04:15,370 As a result, the unpainted areas would stay red, while 74 00:04:15,370 --> 00:04:19,149 the painted areas would turn a stunning shade of black. 75 00:04:22,170 --> 00:04:25,110 For generations, Athenian potters would leave the 76 00:04:25,110 --> 00:04:28,590 backgrounds red and use slip to paint figures in black. 77 00:04:29,170 --> 00:04:33,520 But one day, about two thousand, five hundred years ago, some 78 00:04:33,620 --> 00:04:35,770 unknown artisan had an idea! 79 00:04:36,910 --> 00:04:39,630 Instead of painting the figures and leaving the 80 00:04:39,630 --> 00:04:45,000 background red, this potter decided to reverse it. 81 00:04:45,970 --> 00:04:49,830 Soon, the new style took over, and terracotta 82 00:04:49,860 --> 00:04:53,090 was decorated with the background in black, while 83 00:04:53,090 --> 00:04:55,370 the figures remained in red. 84 00:04:56,230 --> 00:04:56,280 [applause] 85 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,650 And that’s how we’re styled, Darling. 86 00:04:59,820 --> 00:05:00,669 Like the look? 87 00:05:00,860 --> 00:05:02,279 You can try it yourself. 88 00:05:02,570 --> 00:05:05,699 What would it be like to draw a picture only by 89 00:05:05,740 --> 00:05:07,260 coloring the background? 90 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,510 And what would you choose to depict? 91 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:14,730 Greek potters painted everything from epic mythological heroes 92 00:05:15,070 --> 00:05:17,579 to mundane scenes of daily life. 93 00:05:18,599 --> 00:05:21,969 Now, the picture might be the first thing that catches 94 00:05:21,969 --> 00:05:25,590 your eye about our vase, but keep looking and you’ll also 95 00:05:25,590 --> 00:05:27,580 notice three distinct handles. 96 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,830 Two stick out on the sides and one sticks out on the back. 97 00:05:32,510 --> 00:05:35,920 The two side handles were used to hold the Hydria while 98 00:05:35,929 --> 00:05:39,760 filling or carrying water, while the back handle made it 99 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,440 easier to pour the water out. 100 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,990 Now, where might that water come from? 101 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,350 Some people might journey to a nearby river. 102 00:05:49,830 --> 00:05:52,400 Others might find a natural spring that 103 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:53,650 came up from the ground. 104 00:05:54,270 --> 00:05:58,390 Over time, Greeks developed basic plumbing, and were able 105 00:05:58,390 --> 00:06:02,270 to transport the water from the countryside to a communal 106 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:04,150 fountain in a town or city! 107 00:06:04,610 --> 00:06:07,299 To protect these fountains from the weather, they 108 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:10,370 would sometimes build covered pavilions—think 109 00:06:10,719 --> 00:06:13,489 big stone columns holding up a simple roof. 110 00:06:14,059 --> 00:06:17,799 These buildings were called “fountain houses.” And, 111 00:06:17,809 --> 00:06:22,060 Honey, it was very important work, carrying water from 112 00:06:22,060 --> 00:06:23,710 a fountain house back home. 113 00:06:24,250 --> 00:06:27,250 It’s easy to forget these days, when you can just turn 114 00:06:27,250 --> 00:06:30,810 on a tap in the kitchen, just how often we use water. 115 00:06:31,049 --> 00:06:34,159 Not to mention, how much water we all use! 116 00:06:35,129 --> 00:06:36,279 Up for a little experiment? 117 00:06:36,900 --> 00:06:40,840 Do you think you can calculate how much water you use in a day? 118 00:06:41,530 --> 00:06:43,669 I sure hope you’ve flushed the toilet. 119 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,860 That’s about 2 gallons of water right there—each time! 120 00:06:49,219 --> 00:06:50,110 Taken a shower? 121 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,049 That might be between 15–20 gallons. 122 00:06:53,559 --> 00:06:56,410 And then of course there’s all the water that’s used 123 00:06:56,410 --> 00:06:59,560 by drinking or cooking or cleaning dishes! 124 00:07:00,110 --> 00:07:04,210 Now, can you imagine having to carry every 125 00:07:04,210 --> 00:07:06,000 gallon of water you used? 126 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,419 Honey, my arms are tired just thinking about it. 127 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:14,669 But it wasn’t all bad news. 128 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,370 For some women, getting water had a silver lining. 129 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,860 Society expected Greek women and girls to stick close to home. 130 00:07:23,130 --> 00:07:25,959 So while getting water from a fountain house was 131 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,729 a daily chore...it was also a social occasion! 132 00:07:30,420 --> 00:07:34,620 In the days before podcasts, FaceTime, and social media, 133 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,090 if you wanted to know what was what, you had to get it 134 00:07:38,150 --> 00:07:39,259 straight from the source. 135 00:07:40,710 --> 00:07:44,259 In fact that reminds me—did you hear what happened 136 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,250 between Helene and Anastassia? 137 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:47,030 No? 138 00:07:47,430 --> 00:07:49,000 Oh my goddess, well... 139 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,240 Helene and Anastassia were daughters of two 140 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,860 rival potters in Athens. 141 00:07:55,470 --> 00:07:59,219 Groups of craftsmen usually worked in the same area of town. 142 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,940 In Athens, potters were in the Kerameikos district 143 00:08:02,980 --> 00:08:04,299 near the edge of the city. 144 00:08:04,740 --> 00:08:08,179 You’d think that two families living in the same part of 145 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,410 town, working in the industry might have enough in common 146 00:08:12,420 --> 00:08:15,240 that they would become friends, but no such luck. 147 00:08:15,639 --> 00:08:18,359 Whether it was fear over losing customers or 148 00:08:18,370 --> 00:08:21,880 professional jealousy, feuds popped up constantly. 149 00:08:22,420 --> 00:08:25,839 In fact, a Greek proverb about rivalries used 150 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,450 potters as its metaphor! 151 00:08:28,500 --> 00:08:32,010 Even the philosopher Aristotle wrote about “Potter against 152 00:08:32,010 --> 00:08:35,929 Potter.” And I assure you, he was not talking about wizards... 153 00:08:37,889 --> 00:08:41,299 All this to say, while potters were known to be competitive, 154 00:08:41,539 --> 00:08:45,199 Helene and Anastassia did not share their fathers’ spite. 155 00:08:45,570 --> 00:08:48,270 They had met as children while their mothers gathered 156 00:08:48,420 --> 00:08:51,530 water, and were now just old enough to go themselves. 157 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,489 They tried to time their trips so they could play and 158 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,359 talk together while walking back from the fountain house. 159 00:08:57,830 --> 00:09:02,190 But then, a whole week went by without Helene seeing 160 00:09:02,250 --> 00:09:04,170 Anastassia even once! 161 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,799 Hey, look, life gets busy; you know how it is. 162 00:09:10,090 --> 00:09:12,550 It was the week of the festival, after all! 163 00:09:12,799 --> 00:09:16,099 At least, that’s what Helene told herself the first time 164 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,630 Anastassia didn’t show. 165 00:09:17,930 --> 00:09:21,579 But after a few days, Helene started to get worried that 166 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,000 Anastassia was avoiding her. 167 00:09:24,930 --> 00:09:28,680 That day, Helene went to the fountain house twice: once for 168 00:09:28,719 --> 00:09:32,300 the day’s regular water with her large hydria, and then a second 169 00:09:32,349 --> 00:09:35,719 time with us to pick up extra water for celebrating with. 170 00:09:36,250 --> 00:09:39,000 There was still no sign of Anastassia. 171 00:09:39,310 --> 00:09:42,640 As Helene waited in line for water from the fountain house 172 00:09:42,660 --> 00:09:46,470 with other girls and women, she looked down sadly at the hydria 173 00:09:46,470 --> 00:09:49,340 in her hand...and she saw us! 174 00:09:51,020 --> 00:09:51,990 Yes, that’s right. 175 00:09:52,379 --> 00:09:55,249 The three of us, red-figures on black, all 176 00:09:55,250 --> 00:09:56,370 chatting with each other. 177 00:09:56,710 --> 00:09:59,780 And Helene realized that she shouldn’t make assumptions, 178 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,590 when she could just ask. 179 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,690 Okay, she couldn’t ask about Anastassia outright. 180 00:10:04,980 --> 00:10:07,370 Word might get back to her father about the friendship 181 00:10:07,380 --> 00:10:09,840 with his rival’s daughter, and then where would they be? 182 00:10:10,330 --> 00:10:13,719 But the power of gossip is real—and really important. 183 00:10:14,260 --> 00:10:17,620 Helene squared her shoulders and charged into the fountain 184 00:10:17,620 --> 00:10:19,220 house to make small talk. 185 00:10:19,620 --> 00:10:23,490 To get the hot goss she needed, Helene first needed to lend 186 00:10:23,490 --> 00:10:25,720 a sympathetic ear...or hand. 187 00:10:26,170 --> 00:10:28,530 She joined with two young women discussing 188 00:10:28,530 --> 00:10:30,039 a new play by Sophocles. 189 00:10:30,350 --> 00:10:33,079 She held a toddler as the mother filled her water jug and 190 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,699 chatted about the cost of wool. 191 00:10:35,070 --> 00:10:37,580 She listened to a servant complain about how many 192 00:10:37,590 --> 00:10:39,990 parties her employers wanted to have that winter. 193 00:10:40,469 --> 00:10:44,680 And then, as Helene was helping an elderly woman carry her 194 00:10:44,690 --> 00:10:49,330 hydria home, Helene got the gossip she really needed. 195 00:10:50,100 --> 00:10:53,350 The elderly woman was Anastassia’s grandmother! 196 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,570 And she was only there because Anastassia had twisted 197 00:10:56,570 --> 00:10:57,800 her ankle the week before. 198 00:10:58,550 --> 00:11:02,160 Anastassia would be alright, but she was not supposed to get out 199 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,839 of bed at all for twenty days. 200 00:11:04,279 --> 00:11:07,290 This was the newest cure recommended in a recent book by 201 00:11:07,300 --> 00:11:09,189 the trendy doctor Hippocrates. 202 00:11:09,420 --> 00:11:12,200 Maybe you’ve heard of him—does the Hippocratic 203 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,450 Oath ring a bell? 204 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:17,410 Anyway, Helene breathed a sigh of relief. 205 00:11:19,090 --> 00:11:20,729 Anastassia wasn’t mad at her after all! 206 00:11:21,030 --> 00:11:24,500 That night, Helene came up with a plan to see her friend. 207 00:11:25,590 --> 00:11:28,459 Helene made sure to go on multiple trips to the fountain 208 00:11:28,460 --> 00:11:29,839 house again the next day. 209 00:11:30,230 --> 00:11:33,370 When she saw Anastassia’s grandmother there, she offered 210 00:11:33,420 --> 00:11:37,119 to carry the old woman’s water again, and this time, got to 211 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,240 sneak in and see her bedridden friend for a short time. 212 00:11:41,469 --> 00:11:45,210 We were placed on a small table and watched the two 213 00:11:45,210 --> 00:11:48,240 friends as they caught up on a whole week’s worth of gossip. 214 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:51,610 There’s nothing like an in-person hang, is there? 215 00:11:52,670 --> 00:11:55,420 They decided then and there to find a way to temper 216 00:11:55,420 --> 00:11:57,680 their fathers’ rivalry so they wouldn’t have 217 00:11:57,680 --> 00:11:59,209 to sneak around anymore. 218 00:11:59,900 --> 00:12:01,829 But that’s a story for another time. 219 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,380 Phew, am I parched from all that chatting. 220 00:12:06,010 --> 00:12:07,110 Anyone have some water? 221 00:12:08,170 --> 00:12:08,550 Hello? 222 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:10,199 Anyone? 223 00:12:14,190 --> 00:12:16,280 Host: I hope you enjoyed learning about Greek 224 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:17,729 pottery and water! 225 00:12:18,010 --> 00:12:20,819 Join us next time when a spirited Satyr 226 00:12:20,830 --> 00:12:22,219 gem does his thing. 227 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,439 To see photographs of the hydria and learn more, 228 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,939 visit our website at Getty dot edu slash podcasts. 229 00:12:32,410 --> 00:12:35,189 This episode was written by Claire Hupy and 230 00:12:35,190 --> 00:12:36,949 produced by Zoe Goldman. 231 00:12:37,650 --> 00:12:40,420 Hailey Wu Chow voiced our hydria figure. 232 00:12:40,890 --> 00:12:45,159 Theme music, mixing and sound design by Alexandra Kalinowski. 233 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,419 Christopher Sprinkle is executive producer. 234 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,540 Special thanks to curators Ken Lapatin, Judith Barr, Hana 235 00:12:53,540 --> 00:12:55,100 Sugioka, and David Saunders. 236 00:12:55,950 --> 00:12:56,910 Catch you next time!