1 00:00:00,820 --> 00:00:02,230 Announcer: This is a Getty podcast. 2 00:00:07,230 --> 00:00:10,390 Host: Don’t walk—run!—to listen to this episode. 3 00:00:11,929 --> 00:00:15,010 This week, we’re hearing from a lamp with an unusual 4 00:00:15,010 --> 00:00:17,060 shape—it’s a pair of feet! 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,840 Welcome to If Objects Could Talk, a podcast where art 6 00:00:21,870 --> 00:00:24,840 and artifacts get to leave the museum vault and tell 7 00:00:24,910 --> 00:00:26,570 their side of the story. 8 00:00:27,830 --> 00:00:31,159 Thanks for joining us as we bring objects into the light! 9 00:00:35,969 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaking of light: what do you do when it gets dark outside 10 00:00:38,740 --> 00:00:40,930 and you need to see inside? 11 00:00:41,450 --> 00:00:45,050 I bet you just flip a switch and presto! 12 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:46,070 More light! 13 00:00:48,150 --> 00:00:50,830 But it’s not just the overhead lights in your home 14 00:00:50,830 --> 00:00:52,160 that make things brighter. 15 00:00:52,510 --> 00:00:56,569 It’s the glow of electronic devices, flashlights powered 16 00:00:56,590 --> 00:01:00,110 by batteries, streetlights, car headlights, and the 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,780 brilliant, bright lights of big city skyscrapers. 18 00:01:04,300 --> 00:01:07,720 We are rarely ever truly in the dark. 19 00:01:08,509 --> 00:01:11,539 In ancient Rome, things were very different. 20 00:01:12,170 --> 00:01:16,789 Apart from a big harvest moon and twinkling stars, the nights 21 00:01:16,810 --> 00:01:21,149 were very, very dark and all you had were torches and oil 22 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,800 lamps to help illuminate it. 23 00:01:23,830 --> 00:01:27,260 Today’s feet-shaped lamp was made in Asia Minor 24 00:01:27,270 --> 00:01:29,259 in the first century CE. 25 00:01:29,820 --> 00:01:33,039 It’s ok to laugh—he's really leaning into being the 26 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,580 clown of the museum vault. 27 00:01:35,960 --> 00:01:37,870 Feet Lamp: Mi, mi, mi! The people want to hear from meeee! 28 00:01:39,380 --> 00:01:42,850 Oh, don’t mind me, just doing some vocal warmups, 29 00:01:43,330 --> 00:01:45,770 which is extra important for a pair of feet. 30 00:01:46,369 --> 00:01:48,919 You know, it was starting to seem like I wasn’t going 31 00:01:48,930 --> 00:01:51,870 to get my turn to share my story, which would be a shame 32 00:01:51,870 --> 00:01:53,910 because I’m such a de-LIGHT. 33 00:01:55,980 --> 00:01:56,340 Get it? 34 00:01:56,679 --> 00:01:57,690 Because I’m a lamp? 35 00:01:59,670 --> 00:02:00,630 [laughs] I crack myself up! 36 00:02:00,929 --> 00:02:02,130 But not too much though! 37 00:02:02,309 --> 00:02:06,169 I am made out of clay, too much cracking would be a disaster! 38 00:02:08,369 --> 00:02:09,699 What was I talking about again? 39 00:02:09,949 --> 00:02:10,400 Oh, yeah! 40 00:02:10,610 --> 00:02:13,670 In ancient times there was no electricity, so lamps 41 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:15,530 like me were all the rage! 42 00:02:15,540 --> 00:02:15,590 [applause] 43 00:02:18,020 --> 00:02:20,840 Business owners used oil lamps to light their buildings 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,810 and the nearby streets. 45 00:02:22,129 --> 00:02:24,690 Noblemen used lamps to light their paths when 46 00:02:24,730 --> 00:02:25,830 they were out after dark. 47 00:02:26,370 --> 00:02:28,679 Soldiers used them to light military forts. 48 00:02:29,470 --> 00:02:32,130 But enough about those ordinary lamps, let's talk 49 00:02:32,139 --> 00:02:33,640 about how a star was made. 50 00:02:34,099 --> 00:02:34,439 Get it? 51 00:02:34,860 --> 00:02:37,039 Because I GLOW like a star? 52 00:02:38,420 --> 00:02:40,420 Whew, I am so good! 53 00:02:41,070 --> 00:02:43,380 Ok, picture it: I was nothin’! 54 00:02:43,650 --> 00:02:45,150 Just a ball of damp clay. 55 00:02:45,430 --> 00:02:48,769 But then I was pressed into a mold and I took my shape: 56 00:02:48,910 --> 00:02:50,410 a pair of sandaled feet. 57 00:02:51,620 --> 00:02:54,219 I still have all ten of my toes, even 2000 years 58 00:02:54,219 --> 00:02:55,609 later, if you're curious. 59 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,109 Then I was baked in a hot oven and my soft surface became hard. 60 00:03:00,570 --> 00:03:02,950 I was ready for action! 61 00:03:03,830 --> 00:03:07,510 To use me, oil was poured into holes at the top of my 62 00:03:07,510 --> 00:03:11,669 feet right where a pair of ankles would be and the wick 63 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,740 was placed into an opening where the big toes touch. 64 00:03:15,150 --> 00:03:18,649 The wick was usually a bundle of fibers like linen or 65 00:03:19,050 --> 00:03:20,150 papyrus twisted together. 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,080 And the oil was usually a plant oil like olive oil. 67 00:03:24,380 --> 00:03:26,740 Basically, anything you might put in a salad dressing 68 00:03:26,740 --> 00:03:27,830 today could get me going. 69 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,000 A little flame would race down the wick and viola! 70 00:03:31,470 --> 00:03:32,410 Lights on, baby! 71 00:03:32,719 --> 00:03:34,909 A little bit more dramatic then just flipping a 72 00:03:34,910 --> 00:03:35,840 switch, don't you think? 73 00:03:36,789 --> 00:03:38,610 I'm pretty unique, as far as lamps go. 74 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,160 Some lamps were modeled after animals, people doing silly or 75 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,309 serious people things, gods and goddesses, or even funny faces. 76 00:03:46,750 --> 00:03:49,720 There were lamps shaped like a foot, but a pair of feet? 77 00:03:50,030 --> 00:03:50,850 In sandals? 78 00:03:51,030 --> 00:03:51,620 Like me? 79 00:03:52,570 --> 00:03:54,019 That's something to be admired. 80 00:03:54,039 --> 00:03:54,069 And 81 00:03:56,219 --> 00:03:58,719 if I'm being honest, laughed at, too. 82 00:03:58,729 --> 00:04:02,439 [laughter] When my wick was lit, I looked like someone 83 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:03,690 walking on hot coals! 84 00:04:06,259 --> 00:04:09,579 And you can't see it now but I used to be glazed red, 85 00:04:09,710 --> 00:04:11,029 so I really used to glow. 86 00:04:11,379 --> 00:04:15,040 That glazing process helped me keep liquids, like oil, in. 87 00:04:15,310 --> 00:04:16,750 No leaking from me! 88 00:04:17,149 --> 00:04:19,670 Yeah, I was quite the way finder as well. 89 00:04:19,970 --> 00:04:23,700 I had a handle so people could grab me and do things like 90 00:04:23,740 --> 00:04:26,060 make their way to the bathroom in the middle of the night. 91 00:04:27,710 --> 00:04:31,030 It was in those moments I was grateful I didn't have a nose. 92 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:31,450 Sadly 93 00:04:33,530 --> 00:04:35,580 my handle has since broken. 94 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,509 I won't say WHO did it, but it was someone with two left 95 00:04:40,510 --> 00:04:42,349 feet and butter fingers. 96 00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:48,110 I was made in Asia Minor, which at the time was part 97 00:04:48,110 --> 00:04:51,990 of the Roman Empire and that Empire [laughs] was huge! 98 00:04:52,270 --> 00:04:53,370 Huge I tell ya! 99 00:04:53,590 --> 00:04:57,029 At its height, around 100 CE, and when I was made, the 100 00:04:57,030 --> 00:04:59,840 Roman Empire stretched from Britain in the Northwest 101 00:04:59,889 --> 00:05:01,590 to Egypt in the Southeast. 102 00:05:02,130 --> 00:05:03,780 I came from somewhere in the middle. 103 00:05:05,289 --> 00:05:08,070 I was kept in a beautiful domus or house. 104 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,990 It wasn’t very large, but it was impeccably 105 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,310 designed and decorated. 106 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,950 The home had no outside-facing windows, 107 00:05:17,050 --> 00:05:18,550 as to not attract thieves. 108 00:05:18,990 --> 00:05:22,820 However, it did have a large atrium, or central indoor 109 00:05:22,820 --> 00:05:25,849 space, that was open at the roof to let in light and air. 110 00:05:26,460 --> 00:05:28,570 My owner, Albus, was a freedman. 111 00:05:28,940 --> 00:05:32,020 He was once enslaved but was granted his freedom and made 112 00:05:32,020 --> 00:05:34,839 a comfortable life for himself as a vendor of fine goods. 113 00:05:35,389 --> 00:05:38,070 He then later became a merchant, supplying goods 114 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,280 for other vendors’ stores. 115 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,099 Albus was a modest man and tried not to call too much 116 00:05:43,100 --> 00:05:46,419 attention to himself, but every once in a while he loved to 117 00:05:46,420 --> 00:05:49,370 have long dinner parties with friends and business associates. 118 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,219 Dinner parties were very popular in ancient Rome. 119 00:05:52,330 --> 00:05:55,159 They were held in the triclinium, which translates 120 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,130 to “three couch room,” because it had three couches 121 00:05:58,130 --> 00:05:59,609 arranged in a U-shape. 122 00:06:00,219 --> 00:06:02,930 While eating, Romans reclined on these couches. 123 00:06:03,260 --> 00:06:06,300 They always dined barefoot, which was so strange to 124 00:06:06,300 --> 00:06:08,900 me...at least put some sandals on, ya know? 125 00:06:09,809 --> 00:06:13,190 Anyway, in the hours that could pass during a dinner, the 126 00:06:13,190 --> 00:06:16,979 triclinium could go from full daylight to complete darkness. 127 00:06:17,289 --> 00:06:20,210 So, for the latter part of the meal, lamps lit the 128 00:06:20,210 --> 00:06:24,520 space, casting a soft glow on faces, and created short paths 129 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:25,680 towards the food and drinks. 130 00:06:26,230 --> 00:06:29,489 I was kept going and glowing on a lamp stand until the last 131 00:06:29,490 --> 00:06:30,789 guest cleared the threshold. 132 00:06:31,179 --> 00:06:33,960 During one particular dinner party, the guests were so 133 00:06:33,969 --> 00:06:37,210 loud that they woke Albus' seven-year-old son, Rufus. 134 00:06:37,940 --> 00:06:40,280 Little Rufus promptly fumbled in the dark house 135 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:41,320 in search of his father. 136 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,650 He used the sound of laughter and the faint light to find 137 00:06:44,650 --> 00:06:45,969 his way to the triclinium. 138 00:06:46,380 --> 00:06:49,160 When Rufus saw his father reclining, he approached him 139 00:06:49,170 --> 00:06:52,929 boldly and told him he could not sleep with all of the noise 140 00:06:52,930 --> 00:06:54,350 he and his guests were making! 141 00:06:54,789 --> 00:06:57,200 His father and guests laughed at his fearlessness. 142 00:06:57,690 --> 00:06:59,210 A fine example of a free man. 143 00:06:59,730 --> 00:07:02,819 Albus told Rufus that if he could not sleep, he should play! 144 00:07:02,830 --> 00:07:07,560 Albus used my light to make shadow puppets on 145 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,749 the wall to the delight of his son and his guests. 146 00:07:13,049 --> 00:07:13,099 [cheering] 147 00:07:13,099 --> 00:07:14,020 Yeah, have you ever done that? 148 00:07:14,270 --> 00:07:16,660 Used your hands to make shadow puppets on the wall? 149 00:07:17,030 --> 00:07:18,000 It’s very easy! 150 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,220 All you need are your hands, a wall, and a light. 151 00:07:21,610 --> 00:07:23,840 Not me though, I am retired! 152 00:07:24,429 --> 00:07:27,200 A small bedside lamp or flashlight work great. 153 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,310 No oil needed! 154 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,960 Put one hand between the light and the wall so 155 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,130 that you can clearly see the shadow of your hand. 156 00:07:33,540 --> 00:07:35,700 Now go ahead and give yourself a wave! 157 00:07:36,300 --> 00:07:38,800 By changing the shape of your hand, you can make 158 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,500 animals, birds, and other characters come to life. 159 00:07:41,889 --> 00:07:42,940 How would you make a bunny? 160 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:43,839 A bird? 161 00:07:44,340 --> 00:07:44,810 A dog? 162 00:07:45,530 --> 00:07:49,080 Now here comes a real challenge: what about making 163 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,059 puppets with your feet? 164 00:07:51,390 --> 00:07:53,620 I bet if you put your heels together and stuck 165 00:07:53,620 --> 00:07:56,230 your feet out you could make a smelly butterfly! 166 00:07:57,450 --> 00:08:00,240 Albus was incredible at making shadow puppets. 167 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,250 Just one bright idea after another. 168 00:08:02,730 --> 00:08:06,889 First he made a soaring eagle, then an angry toad, 169 00:08:08,150 --> 00:08:10,910 and then a mischievous hare hopping along the walls! 170 00:08:12,930 --> 00:08:15,630 The shadow puppets that Albus created and his accompanying 171 00:08:15,630 --> 00:08:18,739 noises made them come alive and delighted his guests. 172 00:08:19,349 --> 00:08:22,299 All that playing made the dark evening seem brighter. 173 00:08:22,740 --> 00:08:25,120 Pretty soon all the guests were trying their hand, 174 00:08:25,219 --> 00:08:27,640 literally, at making shadow puppets, and creating 175 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:28,659 stories for one another. 176 00:08:28,850 --> 00:08:31,390 It was the longest dinner party Albus ever had. 177 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,310 But it didn't matter, the night was brilliant! 178 00:08:34,539 --> 00:08:37,380 Made even more perfect with his son by his side. 179 00:08:38,020 --> 00:08:40,929 After all, Rufus was the light of his father’s life! 180 00:08:42,059 --> 00:08:43,209 [Laughs] Get it? 181 00:08:43,630 --> 00:08:45,109 LIGHT of his life? 182 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:46,930 I gotta million of 'em! 183 00:08:47,530 --> 00:08:50,120 I’ll share more next time. 184 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,800 Host: I hope you enjoyed learning about 185 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,160 Roman homes and lamps! 186 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,860 Join us next time when a very fancy cat 187 00:09:01,029 --> 00:09:02,530 slinks into the studio. 188 00:09:03,580 --> 00:09:06,490 To see photographs of the feet lamp and learn more, 189 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,930 visit our website at Getty dot edu slash podcasts. 190 00:09:12,639 --> 00:09:15,370 This episode was written by Tocarra Elise and 191 00:09:15,370 --> 00:09:16,910 produced by Zoe Goldman. 192 00:09:17,619 --> 00:09:19,229 Todd Schick voiced the lamp. 193 00:09:19,970 --> 00:09:23,869 Theme music, mixing and sound design by Alexandra Kalinowski. 194 00:09:24,510 --> 00:09:26,800 Christopher Sprinkle is executive producer. 195 00:09:27,630 --> 00:09:30,850 Special thanks to curators Ken Lapatin and Judith Barr 196 00:09:30,969 --> 00:09:32,809 and educator Lilit Sadoyan. 197 00:09:33,750 --> 00:09:34,809 Catch you next time!